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00:02:57.560 Well, we've got a lot going on in here.

00:02:59.280 Just a ton to tell you about.

00:03:02.480 You know, there's that story.

00:03:04.400 There's a story that comes out of the Dallas, Texas area.

00:03:10.460 Where this kid comes in, they're at a track meet, and he's a kid sitting, you know, where he's not supposed to sit.

00:03:21.240 He's sitting underneath a tent where only the people who are on the track team are supposed to sit.

00:03:27.940 So a member of the track team and his brother come in, and they say, hey, dude, you got to move.

00:03:32.780 This is just for the track team.

00:03:34.660 And he says, I'm not moving.

00:03:36.060 And he's like, dude, you got to move.

00:03:39.140 This is where the track team sits.

00:03:42.720 There's an exchange.

00:03:45.040 All of a sudden, he says, hey, you try to move me, and you'll see what's happening.

00:03:50.500 He pulls a knife.

00:03:51.540 He stabs the kid in the chest just from zero to 60. 0.99

00:03:57.200 Just stabs him in the chest. 0.97

00:03:58.920 He dies in his brother's arms. 1.00

00:04:01.140 Okay.

00:04:01.920 This is an open and shut case.

00:04:03.620 This is really quite simple.

00:04:05.520 Witnesses were there.

00:04:07.360 Everybody knows exactly what's going on.

00:04:10.060 However, there is a Dallas-based defund the police activist and social justice leader that is now involved with the family.

00:04:20.580 And there was a press conference yesterday.

00:04:24.980 And I want you to hear what this social justice leader said.

00:04:27.400 And all I'm going to say, so it don't be asked later, is that was disrespectful and just shows you all the character who was not invited.

00:04:44.940 But he knows that it's inappropriate to be near this family.

00:04:51.280 Okay, stop.

00:04:51.900 So what is he talking about here?

00:04:53.740 What is this press conference about?

00:04:55.420 I thought this press conference was to defend the kid that stabbed the other kid for no reason.

00:05:02.560 Well, no, it turned in because the kid whose son had died showed up at the press conference.

00:05:11.480 And he's excoriated for showing up.

00:05:14.860 You weren't invited.

00:05:16.000 Who are you?

00:05:16.620 Get out.

00:05:17.920 Who are you to show up here?

00:05:19.240 It is wholly inappropriate.

00:05:20.960 You know you're not supposed to be around this family.

00:05:22.980 Excuse me?

00:05:26.400 I'm sorry.

00:05:27.520 What?

00:05:28.640 Now, let me tell you who this guy is.

00:05:31.300 He's the guy he has been trying to, you know, rally a defense for Carmelo Anthony.

00:05:39.160 That's the teenager.

00:05:40.340 He's 17 years old.

00:05:41.660 He's already gotten him, you know, gotten his bail reduced by a great deal.

00:05:47.760 And he said, hey, I want to sincerely thank everybody for the overwhelming support you've shown.

00:05:52.400 This is just the beginning of a long legal journey and will continue to stand strong in defense of his rights.

00:05:59.480 He has rights, but how are you defending him just stabbing another kid?

00:06:05.260 When he hosted the press conference, disrespect for the dignity, disrespect.

00:06:12.720 His dad shows up to the press conference uninvited, uninvited.

00:06:18.340 It was disrespectful and just shows all of you the character.

00:06:24.040 The character of what?

00:06:26.260 The character of the dad showing up?

00:06:28.660 Yeah.

00:06:29.920 Yeah.

00:06:30.640 I mean, I would think I would show up.

00:06:32.640 I want my son's killer to go to jail.

00:06:37.480 I might show up.

00:06:38.720 So it goes viral and that's when everybody online starts to be a little detective and they find out some things about him.

00:06:47.540 This guy's ex and his Facebook account reveal that he's played a pivotal role in helping mobilize on behalf of Cori Bush's winning campaigns in 2020 and 2022.

00:06:59.100 Bush praised Alexander and his group for their perseverance and dedication and their commitment to this work is just unmatched.

00:07:09.360 Okay.

00:07:09.460 In 2021, Alexander said it was truly an honor to join Bush as she was sworn into Congress.

00:07:16.160 So this guy that held the press conference and said, that just shows the character of the dead boy's dad.

00:07:26.300 Chose a photo.

00:07:27.400 We have a photo now of her, Cori Bush and Alexander at her swearing in.

00:07:32.860 So he attends her swearing in.

00:07:34.520 This is going to get good.

00:07:35.560 Hang on.

00:07:36.000 Buckle up. 0.96

00:07:36.480 He said, I had the honor of seeing history in the making by seeing this beautiful black queen, Cori Bush, elected to Congress. 0.92

00:07:44.220 I don't know if you know this.

00:07:44.920 We don't have queens. 1.00

00:07:48.080 So.

00:07:49.260 So anyway, he says in another post.

00:07:54.960 He said, I'm so proud of her as an actual frontline protester.

00:07:59.920 We saw her yesterday sacrifice for millions facing eviction in America. 0.79

00:08:04.200 Our movement, our Congresswoman.

00:08:07.500 Okay.

00:08:07.760 So she's part of the standing up for the eviction of, I'm sorry, millions facing eviction.

00:08:15.900 Yeah.

00:08:16.460 No, they were here illegally.

00:08:17.760 He goes on.

00:08:18.920 He does all kinds of pro Bush posts.

00:08:22.740 He then says in a 2024 post, we live in a country that doesn't want to address white supremacy.

00:08:30.000 He wants reparations.

00:08:32.040 Yeah.

00:08:32.220 So you're getting to know who he is, right?

00:08:34.280 You know, he's a radical revolutionary.

00:08:36.360 But wait, this time there's more. 0.89

00:08:39.660 Apparently, he's also a career criminal.

00:08:47.560 NBC 5 here in Dallas reported that he had an arrest warrant in 2019.

00:08:52.960 Arrest warrant affidavit stated that Alexander's longtime partner had reported to police that he had shoved her and tried to strangle her.

00:09:01.120 Now, she declined after she called police to file charges because the police, they just, you can't trust the police.

00:09:12.520 Oh, okay.

00:09:14.020 All right.

00:09:15.020 He also served two days in jail after pleading guilty to a felony theft case in 2021.

00:09:20.840 Remember, that's just a couple years ago.

00:09:22.260 So, after four years of this hanging over my head, I decided to avoid a jury trial in Trump County.

00:09:28.140 That wouldn't have given me a fair shot at all.

00:09:31.000 Okay.

00:09:32.140 He was sentenced to two years in prison, also for repeatedly violating his probation.

00:09:37.940 2009, a local report details how Alexander was arrested for allegedly causing serious head injuries to his then-girlfriend's two-year-old son while he was babysitting.

00:09:49.360 So, now we're getting into abuse, babysitting a child.

00:09:55.180 Two years old, he takes this kid into the hospital.

00:09:59.320 He says, no, mom and I and the baby, we're on the couch, and he just rolled off the couch.

00:10:05.500 Unfortunately, the doctor said, yeah, that's not possible.

00:10:07.920 We're looking at the injuries here, and this is trauma, and more consistent with abusive head trauma and child physical abuse.

00:10:20.040 Okay, so we got that going for us as well.

00:10:21.960 Not long after he was arrested for injury to a child causing severe bodily harm, he got into trouble for forging a check, leading police on a high-speed chase, stealing a car, and then claiming that his car that was stolen was his car.

00:10:40.180 It wasn't his car.

00:10:41.060 It was a stolen car.

00:10:41.940 Anyway.

00:10:42.120 So, he brought a couple of character witnesses with him to trial.

00:10:46.780 It didn't work out well.

00:10:47.860 One of them had just met him, and the other one didn't have any idea that he was on probation or breaking his probation.

00:10:56.180 The judge is like, and you know, Brody's, no, no, I didn't know that.

00:11:00.520 He never told me that.

00:11:01.400 He's been in trouble.

00:11:02.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.98

00:11:03.460 So, he's got all kinds of other things, like he praises Louis Farrakhan, and if you see in that press meeting, you see the guy with the bow tie, that's Louis Farrakhan's people, and so, you know, he's supported the nation of Islam despite the comments that Jews are termites and, you know, they're wicked termites.

00:11:27.180 I mean, I don't know what kind of other termites you have, I mean, other than wicked termites, but I generally, you know, generally don't praise Louis Farrakhan and those kinds of comments, but he does.

00:11:38.440 Okay.

00:11:38.880 So, that's what we have going on in Dallas.

00:11:41.180 Notice how dark things are getting.

00:11:44.740 Okay.

00:11:44.980 Notice what people are standing up for.

00:11:48.100 They're standing up to burn down Tesla.

00:11:50.440 They're standing up to defend the guy who killed the healthcare CEO and saying, well, it was kind of justified, really, because, you know, I'll tell you how violent things are.

00:12:04.620 You know, health insurance is violence right now, so don't talk to me about violence.

00:12:10.400 Okay.

00:12:10.880 All right.

00:12:11.300 So, we have that going for us.

00:12:12.920 We also have people that are refusing to speak out against any kind of violence on their side, including the burning down of Teslas, the hassling of Tesla owners, the doxing of people, and the killing of Donald Trump and Elon Musk.

00:12:40.860 We showed you yesterday, it's over 50%.

00:12:43.740 Now, if you're on the left, even if you say you're slightly liberal, it's over 50% of that population believes that it is fine to kill Donald Trump and Elon Musk. 0.98

00:12:56.520 Okay.

00:12:57.480 Last night, I found another story.

00:13:00.760 This is an op-ed.

00:13:02.220 This is one, last night when I read it, I sent it directly to Kash Patel, said, FBI might want to investigate this one.

00:13:10.860 By Nicholas Decker. 0.97

00:13:13.900 The story on Substack is, when we must kill them. 1.00

00:13:21.240 Evil has come to America. 1.00

00:13:23.300 The present administration is engaged in barbarism.

00:13:25.940 It has arbitrarily imprisoned its opponents, revoked the visas of thousands of students, imposed taxes on us without our consent, and seeks to destroy the institution which opposes it.

00:13:38.860 Its leaders have threatened those who produce unfavorable coverage and suggested that their license be revoked.

00:13:45.480 It has deprived us in many cases of trial by jury.

00:13:49.320 It has subjected us to jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and it has transported us beyond seas to be imprisoned for pretend offenses.

00:13:57.580 It has scorned the orders of the courts, and it threatens to alter fundamentally our form of government.

00:14:02.520 It has pardoned its thugs and extorted the lawyers who defended its opponents.

00:14:07.800 Unbelievable.

00:14:10.740 If these actions become normal, the government could arrest anyone and deport them to prison in foreign land without any hope of redress and for no reason.

00:14:20.120 It is nothing less than the total abdication of the rule of law in this country.

00:14:24.660 There is no guard or protection against it.

00:14:26.880 If this theory prevails, then it is the end of America as a free nation.

00:14:31.640 Now, first of all, if you were saying this maybe four years ago, you might have some credibility.

00:14:38.740 Because I can look at both sides and say, hey, you know, there's some real things that are disturbing here.

00:14:43.900 But you have no credibility on this.

00:14:46.680 None.

00:14:47.860 And your conclusion is disturbing, even if it were all true.

00:14:51.780 I do not wish for this essay to be a mere catalog of outrages.

00:14:54.920 Because the conduct of the present administration is well known to you, as it is by myself, and can be understood by any sensible person.

00:15:02.940 On it, no further comment is ventured.

00:15:04.680 What remains for us is to decide when we fight.

00:15:07.960 If the present administration wills it, it could sweep away the courts.

00:15:12.140 It could sweep away democracy.

00:15:13.780 It could sweep away freedom.

00:15:15.220 Again, where were you four years ago?

00:15:17.020 Protest is useful only insofar as it can affect action.

00:15:21.640 Our words might sway the hearts of men, but not the beasts.

00:15:25.420 If the present administration chooses this course, then the question of the day can be settled, not with legislation, but with blood and iron. 0.99

00:15:36.160 In short, we all must now decide when we must kill them.

00:15:41.280 None of us wish for war, but if the present administration wishes to destroy the nation, I would accept war rather than see it perish.

00:15:52.700 I hope you would choose the same, but what to do?

00:15:55.560 The rod of our present administration runs deeper than one man.

00:15:59.460 The sacrifice of a hero is insufficient to save our nation, and a gust of wind on a summer day would not have saved us.

00:16:05.760 For let us make no mistake, the problem is not one man, but a whole class of people.

00:16:10.400 If one head is cut off, the other will take its place.

00:16:15.440 Violence only makes sense as part of a coordinated strategy.

00:16:21.300 This is why protests are important, not as a way of changing the present administration's actions, but as a way to coordinate a group.

00:16:30.560 There may come a time when we shall have no guarantee of freedom, but the one which we make for ourselves.

00:16:36.980 If it comes, I tell you there is no greater honor than he who lays down his life for his friends.

00:16:43.140 Until then, we must wait.

00:16:46.040 And when is that time?

00:16:47.800 Well, your threshold may differ from mine, but you have to have one.

00:16:51.700 If the present administration should cancel elections, if it should engage in fraud in the electoral process, if it should suppress the speech of its opponents, jail its political adversaries, if it ignores the will of Congress, if it should directly spurn the orders of the court, all of these are reasons for revolution.

00:17:10.380 It may be the best to stave off and wait for elections to throw out this scourge, but if we should threaten the ability to remove it, we shall have no choice.

00:17:21.800 We will have to do the right thing.

00:17:23.760 We will have to prepare ourselves to die.

00:17:27.600 I hope that we should conduct ourselves first with such courage that it will be our finest hour.

00:17:32.220 I expect that we shall do our duty.

00:17:35.700 While we wait, we must not be like sheep to the slaughter.

00:17:39.080 We cannot cooperate.

00:17:40.420 We must hide those who are persecuted.

00:17:43.540 We must foil the aims of their agents.

00:17:46.240 The state and local governments, which we control, can litigate the actions of the present administration.

00:17:52.240 Their police can refuse to share information or be deputized to do the work of the evil ones.

00:17:57.700 If war is politics by other means, then politics is war by other means.

00:18:03.060 There can be no surrender, for surrender means oppression of us all.

00:18:07.360 These are exceptional times.

00:18:09.300 We have not faced such a threat in many, many years.

00:18:12.680 I wish it had not come.

00:18:14.320 It is the sorrow of the world that these times have come, and we shall have to bring woe unto those whom it came.

00:18:21.780 The future is not certain.

00:18:23.680 It may be the present administration should flinch and turn back in the face of lighter action.

00:18:29.600 I fondly hope that may be the case, but if it comes, we must awaken from this ignorant dream.

00:18:34.480 This evil will not pass without blood, sweat, and toil and tears. 0.90

00:18:38.640 So harden your hearts and prepare to die.

00:18:42.380 Like I said, I sent that one to the FBI when I saw it yesterday.

00:18:50.060 That's from the left.

00:18:52.520 If anybody is, any comments, anyone, anyone, Bueller, Bueller, anybody, any comments on who we're dealing with?

00:19:02.700 Again, let me go back.

00:19:05.280 The activist I just told you about that that is defending a kid that for no reason stabbed another kid to death in the bleachers in front of witnesses.

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00:21:06.040 Now, back to the podcast.

00:21:08.020 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:21:11.700 You know, I have, when we started The Blaze, we started with a bunch of people that were really unknowns.

00:21:19.120 And we have seen so many people leave here and go on to unbelievable things.

00:21:26.600 I mean, most people don't know.

00:21:27.900 Will Kane, he started his career here.

00:21:32.340 Pete Hegseth began his career at The Blaze.

00:21:36.680 Buck Sexton started his career at The Blaze.

00:21:41.060 And Billy Hollowell.

00:21:42.840 Billy worked with Dan Andros, who used to be a writer of mine.

00:21:48.280 He was our head writer for a long time.

00:21:49.980 Just fantastic writer.

00:21:51.180 All those years at Fox, it was Dan that was writing all of those things.

00:21:56.140 And he left to go to CBN.

00:21:58.320 Oh, Christ needs me.

00:22:00.120 Whatever.

00:22:01.800 And Billy Hollowell used to work at The Blaze, and he did the same thing.

00:22:06.760 Oh, I got to go.

00:22:07.820 Christ needs me.

00:22:09.720 And so he's working at CBN now as well.

00:22:12.540 You can find what he's going to be talking about at CBN.com slash Supernatural.

00:22:17.440 Billy, welcome to the program.

00:22:18.820 Glad to have you here.

00:22:20.500 Glad to be here.

00:22:21.360 Thanks for having me.

00:22:22.200 You bet.

00:22:22.900 All right.

00:22:23.220 So why did you do this, and what did you find?

00:22:27.640 You know, it's crazy.

00:22:28.560 We went around the entire country looking for stories of crazy miracles, not just minor

00:22:34.580 miracles, but, you know, claims that tumors disappeared, paralysis disappeared.

00:22:39.180 And really, the why was this feeling, you know, there's a lot of people out there who don't

00:22:44.400 think miracles still happen, right?

00:22:46.200 There's even people who are Christians who will say, eh, I don't know if I think God is

00:22:49.740 moving.

00:22:50.580 And so we wanted to go out and test that.

00:22:52.900 And we wanted to see, are miracles still happening?

00:22:55.420 And I'll tell you, what we found really blew my mind.

00:22:59.260 When we went into this project, I thought, okay, we're going to go into this, we're going

00:23:03.120 to do this, and, you know, it's going to inspire me, it's not going to change me.

00:23:06.860 I walked away, and you know this, Glenn, I'm a Christian, I've been a Christian my whole

00:23:10.000 life, but I walked away completely transformed and challenged by the insane things that we

00:23:14.860 encountered.

00:23:15.440 Okay, so first, let's just define what a miracle is.

00:23:19.400 Okay, so miracles, there's a wide range of things that miracles can qualify as, right?

00:23:24.420 You have the small miracles, the things that we, you know, as Christians or as people of

00:23:28.560 faith feel God doing in our lives, right?

00:23:31.640 Those can be miracles, but you can't really prove them.

00:23:35.300 Then you have the big miracles, the things like, hey, this guy was dead for 40 minutes

00:23:39.760 and somehow came back to life, which, by the way, that's one of the stories, and we could

00:23:43.520 talk about it, that we encountered along the way.

00:23:46.060 You know, we were looking at miracles in this documentary that were 30,000-foot huge things,

00:23:52.380 things that have scientific backing, that have doctors involved, that have really evidence,

00:23:58.380 right?

00:23:58.780 And so miracles, again, they could be a wide range, but we wanted to look at those big

00:24:02.840 ones, and we could say, okay, is there proof?

00:24:05.440 How close can we get to actually proving that these things happen?

00:24:09.060 And by the way, you know, we went into these stories skeptically, because I don't think

00:24:13.020 any of us should just go out and say, oh, yeah, you know, whatever you say we believe,

00:24:16.760 we really wanted to provide the evidence along the way.

00:24:19.200 Okay, so tell me some of the things that you found.

00:24:23.080 All right, so let's talk about the guy who was dead for 40 minutes.

00:24:26.060 This story, when it came across our desk, we did a ton of research, dug into it.

00:24:30.980 Jeff Markin is a guy who, you know, he wasn't feeling well, went to the hospital.

00:24:35.720 He has a heart attack.

00:24:37.240 He dies, essentially, inside the hospital.

00:24:40.080 They call a doctor, an emergency room doctor, and they're trying to revive him.

00:24:43.840 They spend 40 minutes on this guy trying to revive him.

00:24:46.940 They pronounce him dead.

00:24:48.640 So this guy is now on the gurney, on his way to the morgue.

00:24:52.260 Dr. Chauncey Crandall, who was the doctor in the room that day, he leaves the room.

00:24:56.900 He assumes, well, this is over.

00:24:58.020 The guy died.

00:24:58.820 He's going to move on with his day.

00:25:00.280 As he's walking in the hallway, this doctor feels God say to him, go back and pray over

00:25:05.740 that body.

00:25:06.420 Go back into the room.

00:25:07.840 And he ignores it because he thinks that's insane.

00:25:09.900 He feels the prompt again.

00:25:11.440 Go back into that room.

00:25:13.000 And so he's like, well, I'm a Christian.

00:25:14.780 I better listen to this.

00:25:15.700 So he goes into the room. 0.85

00:25:16.820 And you can imagine the nurse and the doctors, they're thinking this guy's nuts.

00:25:20.220 He's going to come in and pray over this dead body that we've already declared dead.

00:25:23.700 And so he starts praying over the guy.

00:25:26.080 And all of a sudden, he says to the other doctors, shock him one more time.

00:25:30.660 And they're like, look, there's no way we're shocking him again because we've tried for

00:25:34.420 40 minutes and he's dead.

00:25:36.140 And so they end up doing it because he tells them to do it.

00:25:39.340 And immediately, this guy gets a perfect heartbeat back.

00:25:42.680 Again, they tried for 40 minutes and got nothing.

00:25:45.540 And now the nurse is saying to the doctor, what are you doing?

00:25:49.000 Like now he's going to be brain dead after this.

00:25:51.280 What's so crazy about this story, this man, Jeff Markin, had a near death experience, which

00:25:55.880 I'll hold off on that.

00:25:56.860 You can watch it in the film while this is going on.

00:25:59.720 But he ends up two days later, waking up completely fine.

00:26:04.120 We interviewed him in this film.

00:26:06.240 And so it's those kinds of stories.

00:26:08.820 I mean, there's multiple miracles in there.

00:26:10.600 And again, these are not just claims.

00:26:12.620 We've got medical documentation.

00:26:13.920 So that's the kind of stuff we were dealing with in this documentary.

00:26:17.400 So, you know, Billy, the amazing thing is we all have these.

00:26:21.920 We all think that, you know, God doesn't talk to us.

00:26:24.680 He didn't talk to me.

00:26:25.560 I don't hear him.

00:26:26.900 But he does.

00:26:27.920 And it's those little things that usually, like that doctor, we dismiss.

00:26:31.020 That's crazy.

00:26:32.080 And you just dismiss him because you think it's you.

00:26:34.360 And if you obey them enough times and then you realize, oh, wow, that was amazing why I turned around and did that because I was told to.

00:26:44.740 And that turned out to be an amazing thing.

00:26:46.440 I mean, not as amazing as that usually.

00:26:47.920 But you start to discipline yourself to listen and it happens more and more often.

00:26:54.800 Or maybe you just notice it more. 0.99

00:26:57.320 But he does speak to us and it requires us to not dismiss it as our stupid little voice in our head saying, you know, go back and pray over him. 0.99

00:27:07.460 What? 1.00

00:27:07.840 That's stupid. 1.00

00:27:08.860 Now, why would I? 1.00

00:27:10.480 Right?

00:27:10.880 And being open to it.

00:27:12.060 Well, and being open to it because the thing that struck me in all of this, right, and after we finished investigating the supernatural miracles and we were looking at the stories, all of these people, they had to fight for miracles.

00:27:23.780 Like the other three stories that we cover in this film, none of them went to a prayer event and got healed on the first try.

00:27:29.820 It was 10 years of praying and struggling.

00:27:32.480 And that opens a lot of interesting theological questions, which we do deal with.

00:27:36.500 We deal with not getting the miracle because, look, we all die eventually, right?

00:27:39.960 Even Lazarus, who was raised from the dead, he died again.

00:27:44.040 So eventually the miracles run out.

00:27:45.880 But to your point, I mean, I'll even share for me, and I think this was a miracle.

00:27:49.980 I was, you know, really upset about a diagnosis my daughter had of scoliosis.

00:27:53.640 I was in my car and I'm driving and I'm thinking, God, I'm like crying out to God.

00:27:57.660 What are we going to do?

00:27:58.860 You know, give me a sign that this is going to be okay.

00:28:01.460 And Glenn, you know I live in New York.

00:28:02.800 There aren't a lot of trucks that have Bible verses on them.

00:28:04.940 I literally look up as I'm praying and the truck in front of me has a verse speaking about God, you know, comforting us and how it will be okay.

00:28:12.960 In that very moment, I would say that's a miracle.

00:28:15.580 And I think that's more like what most of us deal with in the day in and day out.

00:28:19.580 And that is how God will often communicate to us.

00:28:22.020 Let me be real.

00:28:30.580 Let me ask you something, Billy.

00:28:33.480 This is a very personal thing.

00:28:36.280 I have been praying really hard over my children.

00:28:42.280 And there are some things that I just don't understand.

00:28:52.300 And I'll pray and, you know, I'll see no result.

00:28:56.540 And it has really hurt my faith at weak points.

00:29:00.120 It has hurt my faith because I've thought, and I haven't thought about him.

00:29:04.900 I've thought about me.

00:29:05.760 I'm just not in sync with him enough.

00:29:08.920 I'm not worthy enough for, you know what I mean?

00:29:13.260 Have you ever felt that way?

00:29:15.820 Absolutely.

00:29:16.840 I think in all of this, especially when we're not getting an answer, and I saw this in the film.

00:29:22.280 I've seen it in my own life.

00:29:23.880 There is this tension that we have to live in.

00:29:26.380 And I think this is really hard because we're human beings, right?

00:29:28.820 This tension of I'm going to trust God that I believe the day I die, if I'm terminally ill or if my kid is struggling with something,

00:29:36.500 I'm going to believe for healing or for better decisions or for whatever the issue is because I believe it's possible.

00:29:41.760 And God could do anything, and I'm going to believe that until the very last minute, while at the same time, and this is where it gets hard, having the trust that if that thing does not happen, if the healing doesn't happen on this side of eternity, that I'm going to trust God and be okay with whatever that plan is.

00:29:56.960 Those two things are really tough.

00:29:59.380 Really tough.

00:29:59.940 It's really hard.

00:30:00.640 Really tough.

00:30:01.220 But that's the death to self.

00:30:02.460 That's the death to self that we're called to kind of live in.

00:30:04.820 And I struggle with that all the time.

00:30:07.000 I think we all do.

00:30:08.080 And by the way, I mean, because I think this actually helps, that doctor in that emergency room who brought that, who prayed over that body, his son died of leukemia a couple of years before that.

00:30:19.480 And he fought for a miracle and didn't get it for him.

00:30:21.720 And now this guy is living, he's able to have those two things, right?

00:30:26.060 That radical trust.

00:30:28.320 And so that really helped me actually seeing this guy who didn't get a miracle for his kid and yet still believes it's possible.

00:30:34.240 It is remarkable when you see people who can actually live with this.

00:30:40.320 My daughter, you know, she's been to all kinds of doctors.

00:30:44.900 She's had brain surgery and everything else.

00:30:47.680 And I have prayed over her so many times to get her seizures to stop.

00:30:54.160 And they just don't.

00:30:56.260 And they're relentless.

00:30:59.820 And she'll say to me that I'm not worried about it.

00:31:03.420 I'm not worried about it.

00:31:04.760 And she's really tired of them.

00:31:06.540 I'm not worried about it.

00:31:08.220 Lord's going to heal me when I'm in heaven.

00:31:10.180 He's going to heal me.

00:31:11.680 And that faith is just remarkable.

00:31:15.060 Just remarkable.

00:31:16.180 Profound.

00:31:16.460 Yeah, it is.

00:31:17.160 Wow.

00:31:18.220 It is.

00:31:19.700 Go ahead.

00:31:21.320 As a parent, you know, and something like that, you know, scoliosis, you know, I mentioned with my daughter, that is not a terminal illness.

00:31:29.040 And I kept saying, you know, thank God it's not something worse.

00:31:31.620 But the struggle, you know, watching your kid go.

00:31:34.760 And by the way, you know, we were going through this as this film was going on.

00:31:38.400 And a lot of this, as I've been talking about it and promoting it, has dawned on me of how good God was in this particular circumstance.

00:31:45.280 But just watching your kids struggle and suffer, you know, my daughter went from a normal six-year-old playing to being in a brace 21 hours a day, you know, and not being able to do certain things.

00:31:55.840 And you watch your kids suffer.

00:31:57.240 And it is a profound challenge to faith.

00:32:00.240 And that is where we have to rest in that trust, right, and believing that the miracles are possible.

00:32:05.920 But knowing, again, that we may not get them, in the case of my daughter, you know, she's out of her brace and they can barely detect scoliosis right now.

00:32:12.840 Like, we had a real miracle, honestly, you know, and I've been so grateful for that.

00:32:17.080 But recognizing that there are other things that we haven't had that in our lives.

00:32:20.700 And it is tough.

00:32:21.940 It is really tough.

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00:32:31.320 So last night, Jews all over the world gathered for Passover.

00:32:35.920 So I want you to picture Jerusalem 2,000 years ago at Passover.

00:32:41.960 And the air is heavy with the aroma of unleavened bread.

00:32:45.280 And the streets are buzzing because people have come from all over Israel to be there.

00:32:50.700 The sun sinks.

00:32:52.500 It's casting a golden glow.

00:32:55.740 But a shadow is hanging over one man because he knows what's coming.

00:33:00.120 Jesus.

00:33:00.600 What must the weight of last night have been like for the man, Jesus?

00:33:12.360 Because he knows what's ahead.

00:33:13.980 The nails, the thorns, all of it.

00:33:16.780 Yet he presses on.

00:33:19.440 Why?

00:33:21.540 Because that's the deal he made.

00:33:24.640 He loves us.

00:33:25.860 He was the one that could bring us back home.

00:33:32.180 That's tremendous love.

00:33:37.940 And a love so relentless that it defies death itself.

00:33:42.140 So it's Thursday night, Passover meal.

00:33:44.840 Jesus gathers his 12 disciples in an upper room.

00:33:48.100 Oil lamps are flickering, casting long shadows.

00:33:50.960 They eat.

00:33:51.740 They laugh.

00:33:52.280 They're unaware of the betrayal that is sitting at the same table with them.

00:33:57.100 And Jesus breaks the bread.

00:33:59.620 His hands aren't shaky.

00:34:01.480 His voice is steady.

00:34:03.520 His eyes are heavy.

00:34:05.600 And he says something that must have been very odd.

00:34:10.620 This is my body.

00:34:12.280 Broken for you.

00:34:15.260 They each have some of the bread.

00:34:18.300 Then he lifts the wine.

00:34:19.420 And this is my blood shed for you.

00:34:26.540 What was going through their mind?

00:34:29.880 Remember, they're looking for the Messiah.

00:34:34.480 Some of them believe that he is the Messiah, the son of God.

00:34:38.800 You know, I can't speak for Judas.

00:34:42.040 But they're expecting a warrior.

00:34:45.320 And they're not expecting this.

00:34:47.680 They're waiting for something big to happen.

00:34:49.700 Not this.

00:34:51.640 The weight of it must have been crushing to him being there alone.

00:34:56.100 Nobody understands.

00:34:57.140 So he goes to Gethsemane.

00:34:58.500 It's an olive grove.

00:34:59.860 And it's right on top of the hill that overlooks the Temple Mount.

00:35:04.200 And he leaves the apostles.

00:35:05.940 Just, Jesus, pray with me.

00:35:07.320 And he leaves them.

00:35:09.440 And he goes off himself.

00:35:10.560 And he collapses to his knees under the twisted branches of these trees.

00:35:17.400 And the moon is hanging low by now.

00:35:19.420 The night, silent.

00:35:22.700 Except perhaps for his silent and ragged breathing.

00:35:27.160 And that's when he says, Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me.

00:35:38.940 You know, it says that blood came out of every pore.

00:35:46.680 And I never understood that.

00:35:48.360 I thought maybe it was a metaphor or something when I was younger.

00:35:50.480 It's actually, it's not a metaphor.

00:35:52.800 It's a real, very rare condition.

00:35:58.920 Where extreme stress will rupture all of the capillaries right underneath your skin.

00:36:06.360 So you actually sweat blood.

00:36:10.220 That's the pressure he was under.

00:36:12.400 His body had to have been trembling and wracked with anguish and pain.

00:36:28.280 He's not just sweating.

00:36:29.680 He's bleeding all of us clean.

00:36:31.760 He begs for escape.

00:36:34.240 And then he knows.

00:36:37.920 And he says, your will, not mine.

00:36:41.520 Why?

00:36:42.400 Because he knew we were going to need it.

00:36:49.000 And here we are with our secrets, our shame.

00:36:53.080 He saw us.

00:36:55.700 And he chooses the cross.

00:36:58.180 And Judas slinks in his kiss.

00:37:02.460 He knew.

00:37:04.400 He said somebody earlier, one person at this table is going to betray me tonight.

00:37:10.240 So the soldiers swarm him.

00:37:15.460 Torches are blazing.

00:37:16.460 Swords are drawn.

00:37:17.640 Peter grabs one of the swords and he actually cuts the ear off of one of the soldiers.

00:37:24.360 And Jesus stops him.

00:37:25.900 Stop it.

00:37:28.180 That's not my path.

00:37:31.040 And he picks up the ear and he heals the soldier.

00:37:37.700 They bind him.

00:37:39.060 They drag him through the streets.

00:37:41.000 Sanhedrin's trials, just total farce.

00:37:43.140 False witnesses.

00:37:44.860 You know, spit, fists, everything else.

00:37:48.500 Caliphate sneers. 0.94

00:37:49.540 Are you the son of God?

00:37:50.900 And Jesus says something that seals his fate.

00:37:54.180 You have said it yourself.

00:37:57.460 Truth.

00:37:58.240 Not blasphemy.

00:37:59.640 Truth.

00:38:00.020 That saves us, not him.

00:38:04.840 So by dawn, he's before Pilate.

00:38:07.360 Bloodied and silent.

00:38:10.700 This happens to go back and forth until about this time of day.

00:38:14.660 And the crowd is beginning to gather.

00:38:17.860 And they're screaming, crucify him.

00:38:19.800 And Pilate washes his hands.

00:38:22.560 But no water erases that stain.

00:38:24.840 Jesus is then scourged, whips, studded with metal.

00:38:33.140 Just shred his skin. 0.99

00:38:35.980 I'm on my way in two weeks to see the Shroud of Turin. 0.67

00:38:41.540 The actual Shroud of Turin.

00:38:43.820 And I believe that to be actually the burial cloth.

00:38:49.140 After you study it a little bit, just even a little bit,

00:38:52.280 and you see what has been done to prove or disprove.

00:38:56.780 And the best they can say is, you know,

00:39:00.660 on the negative side is, I don't know.

00:39:03.940 I don't know how it happens.

00:39:06.720 They mock him.

00:39:07.900 They drape him in a purple robe.

00:39:10.140 His back is just shredded.

00:39:11.960 His legs on both sides, his chest. 0.62

00:39:15.280 They jam a crown of thorns into his scalp.

00:39:18.480 And these aren't little like roses.

00:39:19.940 These are, I think they're called, um,

00:39:22.280 Bethlehem thorns.

00:39:24.760 And they're like three, four inches.

00:39:26.740 And they just push it into his scalp.

00:39:29.980 Blood is streaming down his face now.

00:39:34.000 But he still has burning eyes.

00:39:38.620 Purpose for you.

00:39:40.000 The cross, part of the cross laid across his shoulders.

00:39:46.740 Splintered.

00:39:47.280 It's heavy.

00:39:48.060 He stumbles.

00:39:50.040 Every single step is a testament to love.

00:39:54.880 Somebody's pulled out of the crowd.

00:39:56.040 Simon is pulled out of the crowd.

00:39:57.460 He's forced to carry it.

00:39:58.780 But Jesus is still bearing all the weight of what's coming.

00:40:03.240 At Golgotha, the place of the skull.

00:40:07.140 Nails are actually put through his wrists and then through his, his feet.

00:40:14.180 Can you imagine what that felt like to just have the, the, the vibration of that hammering?

00:40:23.700 And I've always seen when they slide the cross into the ground and, and it settles, you know, his shoulder was dislocated, they think, in the streets.

00:40:34.360 So, you know, the only way you breathe on a cross is you have to force yourself to stand up straight as much as you can.

00:40:43.420 Because once you start to sag down, your lungs start to collapse.

00:40:47.880 And so with a dislocated shoulder, he's pulling himself up so he can breathe.

00:40:55.100 Jeez.

00:40:57.380 Sky is darkening now.

00:41:01.740 He's, he's executed with two thieves, one on each side.

00:41:05.960 One mocks him.

00:41:06.840 The other one says, remember me.

00:41:08.520 And at that moment, Jesus is offering grace.

00:41:16.240 You imagine today you'll be with me in paradise.

00:41:20.460 He's dying and he's saving.

00:41:27.160 He sees his mom standing below.

00:41:38.520 John is beside her.

00:41:50.800 Grace again.

00:41:53.580 Jesus looks down and says, woman, behold your son.

00:42:02.740 Love, even in agony.

00:42:04.680 Agony.

00:42:06.180 The crowd jeers.

00:42:07.220 Save yourself.

00:42:08.080 Save yourself.

00:42:08.720 If you're God, save yourself.

00:42:10.380 He doesn't because of us.

00:42:13.660 Because of me.

00:42:15.520 Because of you.

00:42:16.660 He saw us.

00:42:18.580 He knew we were going to need this.

00:42:21.540 He takes it.

00:42:25.640 For him to really be man and suffer,

00:42:29.960 he had to be separated from God at this point.

00:42:32.780 He said, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

00:42:36.240 Jeez.

00:42:40.460 God didn't turn away from him.

00:42:42.900 He turned from the sin that he was bearing, our sin.

00:42:46.560 And at the ninth hour, he just says, it is finished.

00:42:54.240 Victory, not defeat.

00:42:56.980 The debt is paid.

00:42:58.680 The temple veil tears.

00:43:01.880 God's presence is unleashed.

00:43:04.340 The earth quakes.

00:43:05.400 Rocks split.

00:43:07.240 A centurion stands at the foot and says, surely this was the son of God.

00:43:13.080 They pierce his side just to make sure that he's dead.

00:43:19.220 Joseph of Arimathea lays him in a tomb.

00:43:21.540 And they sealed him up, sealing hope away.

00:43:27.860 The disciples have no idea what's going on.

00:43:30.100 No idea.

00:43:30.900 They're hunted now.

00:43:32.120 Are we going to die like that?

00:43:33.720 I thought he was the Savior.

00:43:35.080 What is happening?

00:43:36.260 Now he's dead. 0.99

00:43:37.560 Nothing more humiliating than being crucified to a tree. 0.99

00:43:41.080 That was the most humiliating thing that could happen.

00:43:44.000 That's clearly not the Savior.

00:43:46.280 The disciples scatter, broken.

00:43:50.320 The world falls silent.

00:43:51.980 Is this the end?

00:43:56.660 No.

00:43:59.200 So imagine just on Easter, I mean, on Palm Sunday, he's riding in triumphant.

00:44:04.780 And everybody's so high.

00:44:05.660 And everybody's like, wow, this is going to be great.

00:44:07.420 And now he's dead.

00:44:08.500 Now he's in a tomb.

00:44:09.620 Now it's sealed.

00:44:10.300 It's silent.

00:44:11.640 The apostles are like, what just happened?

00:44:15.000 It's only been 24 hours.

00:44:20.220 Disciples are, they hide, hope buried with Jesus. 1.00

00:44:25.060 Mary Magdalene weeps.

00:44:26.880 Her heart is just raw.

00:44:28.400 Her world now feels empty.

00:44:33.680 But there's a pulse in the air.

00:44:36.560 There is a pulse in the air.

00:44:40.880 Mary has been sleepless, broken.

00:44:43.520 She walks to the tomb, sits pre-dawn.

00:44:47.000 She has spices in her hand to anoint his body.

00:44:49.180 Final act of love.

00:44:50.940 And the ground quakes as she gets close.

00:44:52.700 She falters.

00:44:53.480 Her breath catches wise.

00:44:55.280 And the stone is rolled back.

00:44:57.600 Now the tomb's mouth is gaping open.

00:45:00.360 And her heart lurches.

00:45:01.900 Oh, grave robbers.

00:45:04.040 She runs to Peter and John.

00:45:05.520 She says, they've taken him.

00:45:06.740 They race.

00:45:10.360 John outruns Peter.

00:45:11.940 Peers inside the linen cloth.

00:45:13.560 Folded.

00:45:14.380 The head cloth.

00:45:15.340 Separate.

00:45:16.160 But empty.

00:45:18.020 Peter barrels in.

00:45:19.440 Baffled.

00:45:19.960 The tomb is hollow.

00:45:20.820 No trace of Jesus anywhere.

00:45:22.760 They leave.

00:45:23.560 Dazed.

00:45:24.180 Mary is just stunned.

00:45:26.220 She just stays there. 0.82

00:45:27.280 She doesn't know.

00:45:27.880 She can't abandon him.

00:45:29.400 Where is he?

00:45:30.500 She's sobbing.

00:45:32.640 And the sobs are echoing off the stone.

00:45:36.420 And then there was movement.

00:45:37.540 Two radiant figures are sitting where Jesus was supposed to be laying.

00:45:42.360 Woman, why are you weeping?

00:45:47.700 She turns.

00:45:48.680 She thinks it's a gardener.

00:45:50.920 She says, sir, if you have moved him, just tell me where.

00:46:00.340 It's not a gardener.

00:46:02.520 It's Jesus.

00:46:03.440 And he just says one word.

00:46:05.420 Mary.

00:46:08.160 Soft.

00:46:09.260 Alive.

00:46:10.260 Her breath stops.

00:46:12.240 Those eyes, that voice.

00:46:13.780 It's Jesus.

00:46:16.240 Rabbi.

00:46:17.860 Teacher.

00:46:19.280 He's alive.

00:46:20.680 Flesh and bones.

00:46:21.680 Scars and all.

00:46:23.900 He says, go tell the others.

00:46:26.420 She runs bursting. 0.80

00:46:28.020 I've seen him.

00:46:30.000 The disciples have locked themselves away, fear choking them.

00:46:33.320 Suddenly, you know, Jesus is amongst them.

00:46:38.040 He shows them hands and feet.

00:46:40.700 The nail marks remain proof of his love.

00:46:44.860 How could he live?

00:46:50.720 This is a very rough and short telling of probably the most important story, not probably the most important story in all of human history.

00:46:57.980 But it's our story.

00:47:03.160 It's the only story probably that matters.

00:47:06.580 He's already done all the hard work.

00:47:11.840 He bled literally from every pore.

00:47:14.520 Carried our sin.

00:47:16.040 Faced the cross.

00:47:17.760 Shattered the tomb.

00:47:19.740 Death couldn't hold him.

00:47:22.300 Nothing can.

00:47:23.360 And just like he said, Mary.

00:47:30.900 He's calling your name.

00:47:35.860 I don't need it.

00:47:37.160 I'm fine.

00:47:38.980 And perhaps maybe that's true for you right now.

00:47:41.580 But there will come a time in all of our lives where despair will overtake us.

00:47:47.120 Where our mistakes will just seem to be just too overwhelming.

00:47:52.280 Lay it down.

00:47:54.140 Lay down all the lies that you now believe about yourself.

00:47:57.220 That you're not enough.

00:47:58.740 That your mistakes define you.

00:48:00.580 That your pain and loneliness are yours forever.

00:48:04.140 Because that's who you are, really.

00:48:08.060 They're not with you forever.

00:48:13.200 It is the strangest thing.

00:48:16.480 Everything true with God is usually the opposite.

00:48:20.700 Don't fight.

00:48:21.680 Surrender.

00:48:22.960 Surrender.

00:48:23.480 It's hard to let go of the shame that you've carried your whole life.

00:48:28.380 Or the wounds you've nursed.

00:48:30.520 The voices that you whisper to yourself.

00:48:33.800 Because that's, at least it was in my life.

00:48:36.180 That's all you know.

00:48:39.020 They've probably been with you for so long that you believe that that's all you are.

00:48:42.880 And without them, what are you?

00:48:44.620 Nothing.

00:48:45.320 There's nothing else inside.

00:48:47.040 I'm not good enough.

00:48:47.900 There is nothing else good inside.

00:48:49.860 I'm just this.

00:48:51.500 Lies. 0.99

00:48:53.480 This Easter, I just want to leave you with this message.

00:48:59.980 I've made that awful, awful journey.

00:49:02.880 And it is not easy.

00:49:10.280 But it is so worth it.

00:49:11.900 This weekend, I encourage you to listen to hear his voice, soft as it was for Mary.

00:49:27.940 Fierce as it was on the cross.

00:49:31.720 Let it go.

00:49:33.700 Come to me.

00:49:35.360 Step out of the shadows.

00:49:37.080 Lay down the weight.

00:49:38.000 It's not about being perfect.

00:49:40.000 It's about being his.

00:49:41.260 And he's already paid the price.

00:49:43.040 He's fought the battle.

00:49:44.140 Won the victory.

00:49:45.540 Now all you have to do is surrender.

00:49:48.820 Because he is alive.

00:49:50.260 He is waiting.

00:49:51.100 Scars and all.

00:49:51.940 Open arms.

00:49:53.540 Come to him.

00:49:54.880 Give it all up and walk away.

00:49:58.140 Surrender.

00:49:58.540 season.

00:50:00.440 Come to heaven.

00:50:01.200 Na na na na na.

00:50:03.920 Na na na na na.

00:50:04.800 Na na na na na na.

The Glenn Beck Program - April 18, 2025

Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Billy Hallowell ｜ 4⧸18⧸25

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