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As a kid, Christmas was a lot different than it is today. On this episode of The Ruffo and Lomaz Show, Jonathan and Chris talk about what it was like growing up in the 70s and 80s.
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Hey, it's Monday. So, you know, we're all going to drag ourselves out of bed on a Monday
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and we go, ah, it's Monday. So let's get all some of the bad news out right away. Horrifying
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weekend. What happened in Australia and Rhode Island on the first night of Hanukkah. Also,
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there's problems in Germany. All over the world this is happening. Also, we're going to talk
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to Brian Stern. He's the guy that got the dissident leader in Venezuela. Remember, she escaped
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Venezuela and ended up in Norway for the Nobel Prize. Wait until you hear the story of getting
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I remember as a kid, Christmas was a lot different than it is today. I remember my parents always
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saying, it's Christmas again already and not understanding that because it seemed like Christmas
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was a million miles away. It seemed like the year dragged on and dragged on and it was a different
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life by the time you got to Christmas because it was for you.
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Now that I'm older, I wish things would slow down a little bit, but it's just time is merely
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But I remember being a kid and there was like this, I don't know, this, this, this code.
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I don't remember how it happened and it wasn't, I don't think it was because of advertising.
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I remember hearing about it at school and the playground and it was never from a teacher.
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Tonight, tonight's Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
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Let me take you to a time before CBS television existed.
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It was 1939 and the country was clawing its way out of the Great Depression.
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Montgomery Ward, which had been around forever, was competition to Sears.
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They had been buying and giving away children's Christmas booklets every year.
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Someone in the executive chain finally said what corporations always say.
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Why are we paying somebody else to make these books?
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Can we have anybody in-house that can do this cheaper?
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I mean, he did not look like a guy who was writing Christmas stories, a myth maker.
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His office for Montgomery Ward was barely whiter than the desk inside of it.
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And when they came to him, he was a man who was drowning in grief.
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And Robert's medical bills were just stacking up.
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And in the middle of all this, Montgomery Ward came to him and said, hey, can you write a cheery little Christmas story for children?
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He said later, he almost turned them down, almost said, are you kidding me?
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How do I possibly write joy when my life is collapsing around me?
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He said he went home, and that night he looked at his daughter, this little girl trying to make sense of her mom dying, makes sense of sorrow that was way too big for her world.
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And he remembered the offer to write something of joy.
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And he thought, if I can give her something, even if I can't give her stability, if I can give her a moment, it's worth it.
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So he started thinking back in his life, and he remembered being a small, shy child.
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And so this character started to form, a character that was mocked for what made him different.
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Until that day, that difference is what saved the world.
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He was every child who felt small, who felt different.
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He would scribble lines between doctor visits and shaping rhymes in the hospital hallways.
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He would draft a few lines, and then he would go into his wife's hospital room with his daughter, and he would read them aloud.
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Montgomery Ward urged him, finish it, finish it.
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When he finished it, he printed, the company did, 2.4 million copies of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
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It was read aloud in living rooms across America.
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But they knew the feeling of hope being born out of heartbreak.
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And then something that I'm not sure would happen now happened.
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Montgomery Ward, which was usually really strict about intellectual property, did something unprecedented.
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And they said, Robert, we see you're struggling with these bills.
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And they gave him full ownership of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
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All rights, all royalties, all future potential.
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That is an act of Christmas generosity that is unheard of.
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And especially in that era when everyone was struggling.
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And it changed the course of May's life and his daughter.
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His wife died, but his wife's brother was a songwriter named Johnny Marks.
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He took the story and shaped it into a melody that we all know.
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And he's like, I don't think this fits my image, but I'll give it a whirl.
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In 1949, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer by Gene Autry became the second best-selling song of all time,
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And it turned Robert May's grief-born story and sorrow into cultural bedrock.
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And then 25 years after the original booklet, Rankin and Bass brought the Rudolph to stop motion animation.
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And Burl Ives played the snowman and the abominable snow monster in the island of misfit toys.
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Economists have tried to figure out what the rights were worth in total.
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They looked at the entire empire, the books, the records, the TV specials, the merchandising, the international licensing.
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Adjusted for inflation, the money that is flowing to the May and the Marx family today.
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The rights that Montgomery Ward handed to the grieving widower because it seemed like the right thing to do.
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One of the most valuable intellectual properties in Christmas hero, in history.
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Handed to a man who just needed hope for his daughter.
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And I think that's why we waited as kids and we still love it as adults.
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Because behind the red nose and behind the jingle bells and the puppets and the fat snowman.
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Is this a single man who in a very small office.
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And then a company showed unexpected compassion.
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Born from the pain of a father just trying to give his daughter one spark of light in the dark.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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From the Wall Street Journal, listen to the opening of this story.
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A man's voice cut through the rain, pelting the pitch-black Caribbean Sea, just audible between two boats tossed around by 10-foot waves.
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People on the smaller vessel, a simple fishing skiff, held up cell phones like emergency flares in the night.
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A figure bundled in a bulky jacket and black ball cap waved her arms.
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This is the epic tale of the mission to get the opposition leader, Maria Carino Machado, out of Venezuela.
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Dynamite is what the Swedish chemist Alfred Nobel invented dynamite.
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That's why he started the Nobel Peace Prize, blah, blah, blah.
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Somebody had the idea of, let's put her on a boat while the U.S. is bombing boats in the area.
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The guy who led it is the founder and CEO of the Gray Bull Rescue Foundation, Brian Stern.
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I thought you were lost at sea here for a second.
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You're standing, I think, in the Miami airport on December 5th.
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It was last Friday, and it's kind of crazy when I say it like that because a lot of things have happened since then.
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My team and I were coming back from Aruba where we were setting up for Venezuela operations, and I've been very vocal about Venezuela for a very long time.
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We've known for a while that President Trump wanted a piece of Maduro.
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He was very vocal about it as the 45th president and, again, as the 47th, as we've seen.
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And so we were getting ready and transiting through Miami airport when I turned my phone on, and I had a whole bunch of missed text messages from a friend of mine.
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So I call him back, and he says, hey, look, man, I know you're doing Venezuela stuff.
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You know, what's interesting is this is our 800th mission that we've done as a team, 800 missions.
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My team and I started August 2021, and we're in December 2025.
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So we've worked all over the place, Russia, Ukraine, you name it, we've done it.
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So I asked my guy, I asked my friend, you know, is it real because I'm transiting, and I don't want to waste a lot of time, and we're busy, and he says, oh, it's real, it's real.
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He said, do you mind if I show you your number?
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So he connects me with this guy who turns out to be on Maria's team.
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And at first, he wasn't transparent that it was Maria.
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And he asked me, and I go, you know, what's the project?
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And he's a good guy, but he's never done this before.
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And I spent 27 years in the intelligence business, so I've done this a lot.
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And I said, look, man, you know when I know that it's Maria.
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If you're not transparent and honest with me, I'm not going to be able to do a good job.
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So I need you to, you know, we're going to be in this thing together.
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But if we're going to do this together, you need to be honest with me because things change.
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He and I spoke again Friday night when I got back to Tampa.
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And then we spoke again all day Saturday doing things.
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I went to Miami to go meet with some Venezuelan friends of mine.
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Monday morning, deploy, Monday morning early, deployed to the Caribbean.
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We set conditions on Monday, initiated on Tuesday.
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What does it mean that you set conditions on Monday?
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So it's kind of like, um, it's, um, this is an orchestra.
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The way these operations work is like an orchestra.
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You have the string section, you have the horn section, you have the, the drum, the percussion
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You have the, you know, I don't play music, but whatever the, you know, all the different
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You know, now, you know, you have like the violin people.
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I was wondering why you missed the viola, but yeah.
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So you have, you have, you have all these different people and it's all music and we're
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But the reality is the violin people don't know how to play a saxophone and the saxophone
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people don't know how to play a violin and the music of the violin is different than
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that of the saxophone and all, and all these different things.
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And if one instrument in the orchestra is off key, you're not making music, you're making
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So when we build these operations and we talked about setting conditions, it's getting all
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And many of those instruments, many of these people do not know what they're doing.
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So there are people, lots of people who worked on this operation, who were instrumental in
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this operation, who have no idea that they helped get Maria Karina Machado to safety.
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And also because we need to, we need to understand, you know, Maria Karina Machado, Maria Karina
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Machado from the Maduro perspective is like what Osama bin Laden was for us.
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There's tens of thousands of intelligence officers have been looking for her from Cuba,
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Venezuela, Russia, Iran, the Chinese, Hezbollah, cartels.
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She is the most wanted person in the Western hemisphere.
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And they had insult to injury because of the Nobel prize piece.
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They knew if she was in Venezuela, that she's going to need to be making a move this week.
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So how did you, how did you get her from hiding to the shore?
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And then you got to tell the story about the water.
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So really, we don't get into, we don't get into a lot of the specifics for security reasons,
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You know, she was in a, she was in a house and then had to get to a spot where there was
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a boat and this is not a port where you're like getting a ticket.
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This is a sandy, nasty, kind of, you know, kind of beachy, marshy area that you wouldn't
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really want to be in, honestly, you know, and that's why we picked these sites for that
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And, uh, she embarks on boat one with a small, with a small group of amazing men and,
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uh, they're embarking, uh, with the expectation of rendezvousing with the second boat.
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That's the boat that I was on, which has come from across the whole Caribbean.
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Their trip was relatively short, but we're doing this on the cover of night in pitch black.
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We had a little bit of moonlight, a little bit, and a lot of cloud cover.
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We were in five to 10 foot seas, depending on, um, where, right.
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By the way, the whole world is trying to find her.
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By the way, our military is dropping things from the sky onto boats.
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So this is a pretty, uh, pretty, uh, so, so, so did you, so she is, she goes out, she's
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Um, and then the, the seas pick up their 10 foot waves.
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Nobody has eyes on her and you do have the threat from above.
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Please don't, just don't bomb us and don't, a little boat might be out there.
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So this, this is where it gets, this is where it gets hard for people to understand.
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This is where it gets hard for people to understand is that, you know, we, nothing we do is classified.
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I'm not government, uh, contrary to common opinion.
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I'm not a, uh, I've been listed as a former assassin.
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If you go to graywellrescue.org, you can read about all of it.
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This operation was paid for by donors, uh, tax deductible.
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So, so, um, uh, you, because of who we are though, and because of what we've done and where we've done it and where we come from and where my board comes from, uh, and where my team comes from, we have our fingers.
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We have a very large network of good guys and bad guys.
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Because the good guys are at the highest levels of government, four-star admirals and generals, uh, deputy assistant secretary of fill in the blank, you know, um, uh, from the intelligence community, the diplomatic corps, the military community, the special operations community.
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You know, I, I've only been doing this for 27 years only.
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So we know a lot of people, um, and we have a very good reputation.
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So when we call and say, Hey, look, you know, here's a lat long, we're going to be conducting an operation in the vicinity of this lat long around this time.
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If you see someone coming to someone else trying to kill us from, from, you know, flight time of a Venezuelan F-16 to where we were operating about four and a half minutes, five minutes.
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And the way these work is you don't know if you have a problem until you're getting shot at.
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They don't like call you on the phone and say, Hey jerks, we know what you did.
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So this whole time we're doing all kinds of tricks, all kinds of deception operations.
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We're putting things out, uh, getting things on the street.
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We had, we had some, a whole group of bad guys convinced that we were going through the land into Guyana.
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So all kinds of things designed to create confusion, create space, to create, uh, noise, right?
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It's the abracadabra of any good magic trick, right?
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Uh, the Russians call me Amerikansky Valshavnik.
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This is how I got the name is because, you know, when the, when the street card guy says,
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don't take your eye off the card, here's your card.
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The last place you should be looking is that card.
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That's the last place you should be looking, right?
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It's a lot of manipulation and it's a lot of really understanding how the bad guys function,
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how they work, what they'll fall for, the cultural nuances.
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I spent 27 years in the intelligence business, hungry for very important people.
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And I know how I would react if I got a tip, right?
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So we create that tip for a reliable source from a reliable source and they go for it.
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They're dedicating resources to a figment of my imagination.
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To hear more of this interview and others, download the full show podcasts wherever you
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So let me just cover some of the headlines here quickly.
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Brown university yesterday, there was a shooter, uh, two are dead.
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Uh, the only one that has been named so far is the Republican, uh, club vice president,
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Um, they thought they had the shooter, but turns out.
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Uh, and there's just some questions on this one that are weird.
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Also Al Qaeda struck and killed, uh, U S soldiers over the weekend in Syria.
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And yesterday, yesterday on the beach, Sydney's Eastern suburbs, Sydney, Australia.
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There's locals, there's people that are coming from all over the country, all over the world
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for the warmth of summer and the community celebration of the first night of Hanukkah.
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Uh, the rest of the world, it is the darkest days of winter on the other side of the globe.
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Uh, it is still sunlight because it is in the middle of summer, but it was a dark, dark
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Uh, despite the sun being up, they were families with children.
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They were chasing the waves, the smell of grilled food that was drifting across the sand, music,
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And then around seven o'clock, laughter was replaced with the screams of terror.
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Two men dressed in black and armed with high power firearms, positioned themselves atop a
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It arched, uh, over the Campbell, uh, parade near the Bondi pavilion.
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They stood on top in the center of this bridge.
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And rained bullets as they fired into the crowd.
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Thousands had been gathered for Hanukkah by the sea.
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They're now ducking for cover, some trying to push children to safety, others frozen in disbelief.
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As friends and strangers alike fell all around them.
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For ten minutes, these guys fired off this bridge.
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The beach, usually alive with surfers and sun seekers, just transformed instantly.
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Frantic dashed for some sort of shelter and protection as the waves just continued to lap
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innocently at the shore while people were screaming for help.
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Now, in the chaos, there were acts of individual courage.
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A fruit vendor, later named by the media as Ahmed Al Ahmed.
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And in a moment of pure resolve, he vaulted from behind a nearby car, tackled the shooter
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Witnesses say, and it was all captured on tape, there he is.
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Witnesses say, his bravery likely saved countless lives.
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They shot at the two that were up on the bridge.
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Fifteen people had been killed by the time of silver.
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Cherished members of the Jewish community, including Rabbi Eli Schlanger.
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The beach won't be looked at the same ever again.
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As the suspects went down, people from Australia just ran up onto the bridge.
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And what I thought was an amazing, amazing moment that spoke volumes of our culture.
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The police were on top of these men, trying to administer care to keep them alive.
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While citizens, understandably, came up on the bridge and just started kicking them.
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Police jumped on those people and pushed them away and said, stop, stop, stop.
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Both in critical condition, now in the hospital under police guard.
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Let me ask you to imagine, just for a minute, what it must feel like to be Jewish today.
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Not in theory, because we had an incident stopped in Amsterdam over the weekend, in Germany over the weekend, in L.A.
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Somebody drive by just shot at a Jewish home with Hanukkah candles in the window, screaming F the Jews.
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You want to know what, you want to chant, bring the infatata here.
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But I want you to imagine, not as a talking point, but in the quiet moments when the phone would light up with another alert, another headline, another synagogue guarded by concrete barriers and armed police.
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There's a particular fear that comes with memory.
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Jewish people carry history, not as abstraction, but as inheritance.
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And it lives in names that are whispered at dinner tables and photographs rescued from ash and stories that begin with, and we thought it would never happen here.
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Europe told itself that very thing once, so did Germany, so did France, so did polite society everywhere, right before it happened.
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And the world has been saying, and the world has been saying that for decades now.
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It would never happen here, and here we are again, and here we are, the worst we've seen in America.
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Shadows that all of us hoped were buried forever.
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Hatred with organization, ideology, hatred with teeth, violence, justification.
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They're shouting it in the streets of Australia.
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They're shouting it in the streets of Germany and England and France and Norway.
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They're chanting not only death to the Jew, but death to the West, death to Canada, death to the U.S., death to Europe.
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This is no longer confined to the margins anymore, and the West is tolerating it.
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Just for the day, let's just stop and look at Australia for a minute.
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For years, Jewish communities there warned the officials.
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It's metastasizing into something ideological and organized and deadly.
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And in Australia, the officials told them, calm down.
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Somehow or another, multicultural harmony would manage itself.
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Europe, Britain, Australia, Canada, the United States.
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Jewish families wondering whether visibility itself is now a liability.
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And yet, all across the West, officials hesitate to name the problem clearly.
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If you're a Muslim, you want to live peacefully, worship freely, raise children, continue, you know, to live and contribute to a society, you know.
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And you're not an enemy of the West, I'm totally good with that.
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It's the belief that society has to be governed by religious law, Sharia law, that freedom of conscience is illegitimate, that women are subordinate, that dissent is heresy, and that the world and everybody in it has to submit.
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It doesn't hide behind, you know, it doesn't hide its ambitions.
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It replaces them and has been replacing open societies for centuries.
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Any culture built on individual liberty, freedom of speech, equality before the law,
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it can't survive alongside an ideology that views all of those principles as sins or as an affront to Allah.
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In that scenario, one side must yield or one side will be destroyed.
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Even the difference between us and Canada and us and Europe, it might be seemingly stark.
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But when you look at us as a civilization, we're very different together.
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We're very different from the rest of the world.
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And we don't understand these things because we project our values on everybody else.
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We assume that everybody ultimately wants to live and to compromise, live side by side.
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We assume that words like tolerance and dialogue mean the same thing to everybody, but they don't.
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And so we tolerate politicians and newscasters and everybody else that explain things away.
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They explain the stabbings and the truck attacks and the shootings and the riots as isolated incidents.
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We talk about finding the root cause, but we won't name the root itself.
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We call it extremism as though it's spraying out of nowhere, as though it was a weather event instead of a worldview that has been around for centuries.
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I ask you to think about what it feels like to be Jewish today because of the Jewish people, but also because you're next.
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You, your faith, your freedom, your children are on the list.
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And history shows this with brutal consistency.
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When a society begins to rot from ideological cowardice, the Jews are always the early warning system.
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And when they're targeted openly and the state responds with hesitation, that society is already stick and in the hospital.
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Synagogues attached, Jewish students harassed on campus, Jewish neighborhoods guarded like war zones, public celebrations requiring armed protection.
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Now, this is not normal, and it's not sustainable.
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And the West likes to believe it understands freedom, but freedom is not a vibe.
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Freedom is costly, and it requires moral clarity.
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It requires the courage to draw a line and say, this doesn't belong here.
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And if we refuse to do that work now, our children are going to have to do it later under far worse conditions.
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They will have to fight, not to preserve freedom, but to recover it.
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And history always shows that's much more costly.
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America, you are closer than you think to losing not only our country, but countries that took centuries to build.
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Not through invasion, but through erosion, through silence, through the polite refusal to speak uncomfortable truths.
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Mais Reese's se demande, côté déballage, c'est qui le meilleur?
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Les moules Reese au beurre d'arachide mettent ton art du déballage à l'épreuve.
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Et avec trois moules au beurre d'arachide crémeux et chocolat fournant par paquet,