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00:00:00.000 We have a great podcast for you today.

00:00:02.680 We start with when evil masquerades as faith.

00:00:07.240 This is something that has really been on my heart recently,

00:00:10.300 that we're fighting a battle that no one's talking about.

00:00:14.240 We're fighting a spiritual battle, not a physical battle.

00:00:18.820 And we keep going back to the physical battle and talking about,

00:00:23.640 well, how many shells do we have?

00:00:25.020 How many missiles do they have left?

00:00:26.340 all of this stuff, um, that is not, uh, what we're fighting because this spiritual battle

00:00:32.500 is much deeper than anything that is happening in the middle East with a battleship.

00:00:37.720 The spiritual battle is right here in our own home.

00:00:40.600 And I explained that to you also, um, later on in the podcast, I talked to you a little

00:00:46.080 bit about the 12th, the mom, the Mahadi, who are we really fighting?

00:00:51.500 What do they actually believe?

00:00:53.040 And I only bring that to you because if this were Christians that believed that Jesus was coming and they could hasten his return by causing the conditions in the world of bloodshed and crazy amounts of war, you know, everybody on the left, the media, everyone, everyone would be saying, including me, we should shut them down.

00:01:19.100 we should probably not let them you know uh out of their little box but that's what the 12ers in

00:01:26.120 iran mean and nobody is paying attention i'll explain what 12ers actually believe in iran and

00:01:32.100 carol roth on oil prices all of that and so much more on today's podcast war affects supply chains

00:01:40.200 and right now one of the most important shipping routes in the world the strait of hormuz

00:01:44.460 along Iran's southern border is under massive strain.

00:01:48.740 About 20% of the world's oil passes through it,

00:01:51.340 and when conflicts in that region happen,

00:01:54.920 it is effectively closed right now.

00:01:57.060 Consequences will ripple out fast.

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00:03:39.100 carol how are you hi glenn hi how are you carol well you know this season of land man

00:03:47.560 was has lots of plot twist and keeping me on my toes but

00:03:50.740 other than that doing great oh my gosh uh so what the hell happened yesterday

00:04:00.160 so we get these times in the market um in periods of great uncertainty where you have

00:04:08.420 real information that is uncertain, right? You don't know, with 20 to 30% of the world's oil

00:04:15.720 going through the Strait of Hormuz, if that is going to be cut off entirely, if that is going to

00:04:22.980 be, you know, a risk to get through, and if so, at what price and the duration of how long a

00:04:28.600 conflict might last. But then that is exacerbated by financial markets. And there are two pieces

00:04:36.260 to that. One is just when there are these periods of uncertainty. Sometimes you get from hedge

00:04:43.420 funds that have large positions and sometimes levered positions in the market, something called

00:04:48.180 degrossing, where they just get rid of everything. And they go to cash and they go, we're just going

00:04:53.220 to sit and wait out and see what happens. And then you get the algorithms. And the algorithms

00:04:58.900 are jumping on headlines, which are rapidly changing and uncertain. And other algorithms

00:05:05.820 are following those first algorithms.

00:05:09.180 So you get this exacerbation of volatility,

00:05:12.340 something where uncertainty and fear

00:05:15.480 drives an outcome in the market,

00:05:17.180 and then it becomes exacerbated

00:05:19.620 by the dynamics of the financial market.

00:05:22.400 I guess the good news is that tends to be short-lived,

00:05:25.900 as we saw yesterday,

00:05:27.320 because once there becomes a price mismatch

00:05:31.100 between what certain people think is reality

00:05:33.960 and the prices that are reflected,

00:05:35.820 then, uh, greed drives in, they buy things up and they, the price is kind of stabilized. So

00:05:41.520 that's, uh, that's kind of where we landed yesterday. Okay. So what, what the market

00:05:46.780 was saying yesterday, yesterday at this time, you know, if you just read the market, you were like,

00:05:53.200 you know, this is going to be a long war. They're going to close down the straight, blah, blah,

00:05:56.200 blah, blah, blah. And I said, I don't believe any of that. Um, and then the market kind of caught up

00:06:02.180 yesterday afternoon the the the rational people started to step in and go no that doesn't look

00:06:07.900 like that right well that's what made it go down right so so you have this information

00:06:12.840 the algorithms jump on the information they over correct and rational people say i think it's

00:06:19.700 corrected too far and we're gonna we're gonna go and we're gonna take and pull it pull it back to

00:06:25.100 some semblance of reality based on what everybody believed as of yesterday now obviously that can

00:06:31.600 changes in the next day or the weeks or months ahead. But, you know, from the price action of

00:06:38.480 that one day, particularly as more information came out, because as the day went on, you had,

00:06:44.920 you know, the G7 talking about doing a strategic petroleum reserve release. You had the president

00:06:50.940 coming out and saying that this was going to be a shorter term conflict. You had some, you know,

00:06:56.140 floating of backing insurance that was either really difficult to get or at a high premium.

00:07:03.380 So the kinds of things that were driving the uncertainty that got, you know, levered up,

00:07:08.720 so to speak, from the algorithmic trading, then started to come into better focus. And then

00:07:14.300 everything came back to what was reality for that day. But as we know, reality shifts day to day.

00:07:20.580 Can I ask you a few really, I think these are probably stupid questions for somebody like you,

00:07:26.140 But they are not to me because I really just don't understand a couple of things.

00:07:30.880 First of all, how come the price at the pump goes up immediately the day that the war starts?

00:07:39.940 Prices are just going through.

00:07:41.220 Well, they've already paid for that oil.

00:07:43.560 They paid for that oil.

00:07:44.980 That oil has been refined and everything else has already been shipped.

00:07:47.740 It's in the ground.

00:07:48.660 How come the prices are going up right then instead of waiting until that oil and that gasoline has, you know, been vacated and the new stuff is coming in?

00:08:00.220 Yeah, I mean, this is a frustration from customers, right, all the time is that, you know, is the gas company, the one who's owning the gas station, taking advantage of me?

00:08:13.000 Because it only goes in one direction, right?

00:08:15.120 When things go up, the prices go up.

00:08:17.780 But when things go down, you don't seem to feel it so much, right?

00:08:21.160 It always seems to go in one direction.

00:08:22.580 Well, I mean, it's not even that.

00:08:23.360 I mean, I understand if when the price of oil goes down, that the price of the pump is not going to go down right away because we're still using the more expensive oil.

00:08:34.220 So I understand why it doesn't go down immediately.

00:08:37.260 But why it goes up immediately defies logic to me.

00:08:42.000 Yeah. I wish I had a really good answer for you on that. I can tell you it's probably not driven

00:08:49.860 by the gas stations because, again, market dynamics, right? If you had one gas station

00:08:56.860 that was raising its prices and the other one could compete, they would lower theirs. Also,

00:09:01.480 one thing that people don't know about gas stations is they make almost no money out of

00:09:06.020 every gallon that they sell after expenses at something like $0.02. So my guess, it has to do

00:09:13.300 with the expectations that are being set as prices are going up that, you know, sort of the financial

00:09:22.200 hedging and the overall, hey, this is going to be our cost. But I don't have a really good answer.

00:09:28.320 And unfortunately, it's one of those things, as I said, that only seems to go in one direction,

00:09:32.720 You would think that it would overcorrect one way or the other, but it always seems to be just on one side.

00:09:39.660 Yeah, and my guess is it's probably just a hedge.

00:09:43.040 All right.

00:09:43.800 Help me out on understanding this.

00:09:46.880 And I think it has something to do with the 20% of oil that goes through the strait.

00:09:52.220 But why, if we are suddenly energy independent, are we seeing gas prices go up?

00:10:00.580 Why are we so concerned with the oil prices if we're energy independent?

00:10:08.160 How come we're not kind of immune to that?

00:10:10.740 Because I don't think anybody in Saudi Arabia is caring about the gas price right now.

00:10:14.580 Or are they?

00:10:16.280 So when it comes to the price of gas, about half of that has to do with the price of oil.

00:10:24.400 And so you'd say, well, I don't understand.

00:10:26.000 And we produce, you know, something like, I think it's crude 13 million barrels and across all different kinds of petroleum products, it's like 20 million barrels a day.

00:10:36.620 The challenge is, is that oil is really complicated.

00:10:42.640 And so not all oil is the same.

00:10:45.480 There's differences between light and sweet crude oil and heavy and sour crude and mismatches

00:10:53.380 between that and different refineries that can handle different kinds of oil.

00:10:59.740 And so it's not like we just produce it and keep it and use it ourselves.

00:11:04.120 We're importing heavy crude from other places because that's how our refineries were built.

00:11:10.480 And then we're exporting some of the light and sweet that's used and preferred in other places.

00:11:17.000 So it's not like it's a self-contained market where we could just say, oh, we're producing this and we can use it.

00:11:23.540 So with all of these different mismatches, plus the fact that this is a commodity, so it's traded globally.

00:11:31.840 And that means that if something, even if it's not, you know, higher here that, you know, we say we don't care about the Strait of Hormuz,

00:11:39.200 there's going to be an arbitrage because somebody's going to say, well, I can buy it

00:11:43.400 cheaper in the U.S., and then I know my transportation costs are maybe, you know,

00:11:49.760 at another $5 or $10 a barrel onto that. And so then they're trying to arbitrage versus the price

00:11:57.120 that would be happening in the Middle East, and then that all kind of settles into a global price.

00:12:03.100 So between the different kinds of oils, the different refinery configurations, logistics,

00:12:08.300 and overall market economics of this being a commodity,

00:12:12.040 we get dragged in even when it seems like

00:12:15.780 we should be able to just be on our own

00:12:18.600 and not worry about anybody else.

00:12:20.680 Okay, so let me go back to worst case scenario,

00:12:25.040 best case scenario.

00:12:27.060 Worst case scenario, this drags on, this gets ugly.

00:12:30.080 They find a way to mine the Strait of Hormuz or whatever

00:12:35.080 and they shut it down.

00:12:36.260 yeah what will that do to the price of oil i mean that's a blowout um minimum 120 to 150

00:12:43.580 uh a barrel and if it really um you know it gets bad i've seen a few analysts call that up to 250

00:12:52.000 oh my gosh yeah i mean it's bad some people i really respect by the way not uh not just

00:12:59.560 you know some guy i asked off the street but really respected oil analyst 120 150 is kind of

00:13:06.600 the the middle of that blowout case 250 is kind of the high range of that okay hold on hold on

00:13:14.020 the likelihood let me give you some good but the likelihood of that is sort of priced right now at

00:13:20.100 like a 20 percent chance the 80 percent chance that doesn't happen okay but can i just get

00:13:26.920 perspective our economy is built to for oil under 120 a barrel correct um you know in 2008 we had

00:13:36.600 130 from april to i think the end of july and that was that was the straw that broke the camel's back

00:13:44.360 in 2008 um so uh what does 130 to 250 a barrel that just destroys the economy right yeah i mean

00:13:56.580 It goes into an absolute global meltdown because the implications for the economy, how that flows through GDP, how that flows through the costs of financing, war and our debt and everything else.

00:14:15.500 So it just creates an absolute global financial crisis.

00:14:19.880 But if we're in that scenario, Glenn, it probably means that we're having other geopolitical crises as well.

00:14:28.940 So, you know, that looks like a very different scenario, potentially a full-on war scenario, which probably means some sort of financial reset at the end of that.

00:14:41.380 Okay, good. 20%. Now, you think it's going to actually fall where?

00:14:46.480 So the base case is somewhere in 90 to 110 near term. Today, it opened up slightly under that range, but in elevated to where we have been, where, you know, you get the risk of war is still on the table.

00:15:07.260 shipping is impaired but not you know fully off the table inflation is you know starting to creep

00:15:14.220 up maybe just a little bit um but you know we have seen that governments are at least at least

00:15:22.060 they're saying they're willing to take some action to to hold that within some range so you know it

00:15:28.980 has a drag um but it doesn't you know have that sort of blowout impact that we were talking about

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00:16:52.900 All right, I want to talk to you about the big picture here.

00:16:55.400 You know, this show is really made for adults, and that means, you know, if you're going to just casually listen, that's fine.

00:17:02.700 but then don't claim to know what we were talking about you actually have to engage and listen

00:17:08.300 because i want to talk to you about the big picture and it's going to sound like i'm talking

00:17:11.860 about the war with iran um you might think i'm talking about this and in some ways i am but i

00:17:17.340 want to make it clear i am not pushing for or advocating for war a physical war with iran or

00:17:23.180 anybody else but war is not just coming it is here and i mean the kind of war that does not

00:17:31.820 use battleships. Everything in the world will become much clearer if you look at things with

00:17:41.060 different eyes, not political eyes, not partisan eyes. But if you start looking at things through

00:17:46.460 spiritual eyes, you will realize something very sobering is happening. We are not dealing just

00:17:54.380 with bad policy. That's how a lot of this started. We were dealing with bad policy. We got lazy. We

00:18:00.160 we didn't pay attention to different things, we made wrong choices, and then it just stacked up.

00:18:05.820 And then we thought we were having to reverse all those things. Who are we going to elect to fix all

00:18:10.080 of these things? But we are confronting evil now that has convinced itself that it is righteous.

00:18:17.760 And that combination has always been the most dangerous force in all of human history.

00:18:24.060 So let me start with the war in Iran. People in Washington are talking about Iran as another

00:18:31.040 just geopolitical rival, another regime that we could possibly negotiate, another government

00:18:36.440 seeking influence. But the regime in Tehran is not just political. The regime in Iran is built

00:18:45.200 on a theological revolution. The clerics that took over in 1979, they didn't just overthrow

00:18:52.140 a government. They built a system designed to export their ideology all across the globe.

00:18:58.880 And what is that ideology produced? Let me talk to you about the actual record in Iran.

00:19:05.380 In Iran, women can be beaten in the street by the morality police for showing too much hair.

00:19:13.960 Young girls have been dragged into vans in prison and tortured. We saw it a few years ago

00:19:18.380 when the woman who was arrested for not wearing her hijab properly was killed in prison?

00:19:25.240 How about the nine-year-olds that they are insisting are cool to marry now a 50-year-old guy?

00:19:35.920 When there's protests in the streets, thousands are arrested.

00:19:40.700 Thousands are killed.

00:19:43.100 Some protesters are executed publicly.

00:19:45.580 Young men have been hung from cranes, children are imprisoned, girls assaulted in prison.

00:19:52.740 You have homosexuals that are thrown off roofs or beheaded in the public square, and it's

00:19:58.200 all being done in the name of God.

00:20:01.340 And that same regime has spent decades exporting the violence and this ideology all across

00:20:08.260 the world.

00:20:08.700 They fund Hezbollah in Lebanon, but Hezbollah is also was in Venezuela.

00:20:14.480 They arm Hamas. They finance militias in Iraq and Syria. They support terror cells across continents. The revolution was never meant to stay in Iran because it is a spiritual battle for them.

00:20:33.960 It is religious. They believe they're welcoming the 12th Amman, the Mahadi, which this one, the 12th Amman, actually comes back after climbing out of a well, and he rules the world and washes the world in blood.

00:20:50.140 They believe that this is the final battle, and they say all of this stuff openly.

00:20:55.640 But here's the part that should concern everybody. Because, I mean, I don't know how many people are here that have been influenced inside our own country, have been influenced by this. I don't know. Do you know? We know there are sleeper networks that apparently have been activated, but we don't know.

00:21:15.960 we know extremist recruitment exists but we don't know the scope but let me bring you here to home

00:21:25.140 here in new york we were just reminded how real that threat is just over the weekend two afghan

00:21:32.400 immigrants young men whose family came to this country to escape the war years ago own i think

00:21:38.740 a convenience store live in a nice house they decided their faith had been insulted so they

00:21:45.100 built a bomb it's called the bomb of satan okay uh it wasn't fireworks it wasn't you know it was a

00:21:52.660 crude device it thank god it didn't go off but it was packed with screws and bolts according to the

00:21:58.880 fbi if that thing would have worked it would have caused more damage in that crowd than the boston

00:22:04.340 marathon bombing let that sink in for a minute hundreds of innocent people on the street men

00:22:10.260 women, children, torn apart by metal shrapnel. And why did they do it? In the name of their God.

00:22:20.360 Let me stop here for a second and just say something really clear. No God, no God commands

00:22:28.460 you to murder innocent people walking down the street. No God orders you to do that. Satan does,

00:22:34.860 god does not that's not faith that is evil wearing the mask of faith

00:22:40.360 but here's the really uncomfortable part about all of this this spiritual blindness

00:22:47.400 we see it in radical movements overseas but it's here in the west in a different form

00:22:53.520 you know evil doesn't come you know wearing a nazi uniform rarely does it it creeps in quietly

00:23:02.100 it it normalizes things it confuses uh moral ideas through ideology and if if you look at

00:23:11.020 the patterns of history it's there over and over again and what was there in history is here now

00:23:16.420 did you know that before nazi germany descended into full horror show something else was happening

00:23:23.000 in the weimar republic the moral framework of the society was completely collapsing

00:23:29.020 Did you know the first modern transgendered surgeries were performed in Berlin in the 1920s at the Institute for Sexual Science?

00:23:40.360 Did you know that the first book burnings were trying to get those books out of the schools?

00:23:47.740 Radical gender theory was all over the Weimar Republic.

00:23:52.700 At the same time, another idea was also spreading in Weimar Germany.

00:23:59.020 called euthanasia, compassion killing.

00:24:03.440 The idea was the elderly, the disabled, the mentally ill,

00:24:07.660 the people who were burdens to society and really had no quality of life

00:24:12.520 were eliminated for the greater good.

00:24:14.840 And first, it was framed as mercy, it was compassion, it was medical progress.

00:24:19.780 But by the time the Nazis took full control,

00:24:22.500 those ideas became the foundation for the death camps.

00:24:26.280 you know history doesn't repeat itself exactly but it does rhyme and today we're seeing all of

00:24:37.380 the rhymes we're seeing them here countries are expanding assisted suicide programs do you know

00:24:43.540 that we have 18 states here in the u.s trying to pass medical death bills this year canada

00:24:50.240 is offering MAID, not just to the terminally ill now, but to people and young adults suffering

00:24:57.880 from depression. What? Do you know that they're about to hit 100,000 people? That's more people

00:25:05.520 died from assisted suicide in Canada than in all of World War II? Does that seem like it's

00:25:13.540 rational or right? You know, debates about whether children can alter their bodies before they're

00:25:20.240 Old enough to drive a car don't seem to be real debates.

00:25:23.720 They wouldn't be in a moral and sane society.

00:25:28.260 But we've completely lost our compass.

00:25:32.420 And here's the part that nobody wants to say out loud because it cuts across all political tribes.

00:25:38.160 Socialism, which, by the way, socialism includes Nazis, known as the National Socialists.

00:25:45.600 Marxism, political Islam.

00:25:47.880 These ideologies seem different on the surface, different language, different slogans, but they're not. Historically, they produce the same outcomes and historically they work together for control and suppression and violence and death. It's a death cult.

00:26:05.200 Let me go back to Iran. 1979, Marxist groups helped fuel the revolution against the Shah of Iran. They marched alongside the clerics. The Marxists were the ones that organized the youth and the universities. Sound familiar?

00:26:22.920 and they believed they were building partners in a new future.

00:26:28.880 And the clerics got all of the people that were going into the mosques.

00:26:35.500 And they said, oh yeah, Marxists, we are one with you.

00:26:38.500 But when the 12 clerics took power, they imprisoned them.

00:26:41.740 They tortured the Marxists.

00:26:43.280 They executed them by the thousands.

00:26:47.020 Because revolutionary movements always eat their allies once they gain power.

00:26:51.700 you know, in the name of God. And that always happens, which brings us to today in America.

00:27:01.400 We're spiritually blind. The left constantly is pointing to Nazis on the right.

00:27:07.640 And some of those warnings seem to become more and more legitimate because extremism exists

00:27:15.440 because people are going spiritually blind. But here's what the left refuses to acknowledge.

00:27:20.880 At the same time they're warning about fascism and Nazis, they're embracing what's the guy's name who is a Nazi that's running for the Democrat Congress, and they're embracing him, and they're embracing ideologies that historically produce the same brutality.

00:27:38.460 So you've got people on the right ignoring the warnings entirely because they're focused on the wrong enemy, and you have it on the left as well.

00:27:45.760 So both sides looking in the wrong direction.

00:27:48.080 Why?

00:27:48.380 Because they're spiritually blind.

00:27:50.880 And meanwhile, evil is doing what it always does. It always captures minds.

00:27:58.600 Evil doesn't begin with violence. It begins with deception, convincing people that cruelty

00:28:05.960 is compassion. You don't have a vaccine, no hospital care for you. That's compassionate.

00:28:12.280 it. That's cruelty. Convincing people that murder is righteousness. Luigi Mangione,

00:28:21.020 does that sound familiar? Or convincing people that chaos is justice. BLM, burning cities down

00:28:26.880 to the ground. All of these things, this is evil. And once enough people believe those things,

00:28:34.220 once people are believing these lies, the atrocities follow. They always do.

00:28:42.280 which brings me back to the main point most people miss.

00:28:45.480 This is not a political battle.

00:28:47.760 I was thinking about the Iran war yesterday

00:28:50.240 and what I said to you yesterday,

00:28:51.700 and I feel I failed to really make the real point.

00:28:57.100 I was talking to you about missiles and geopolitical stuff.

00:29:02.220 We're in a spiritual battle,

00:29:04.220 and you cannot defeat evil if you refuse to recognize it.

00:29:08.360 You can't defend our civilization if you abandon the moral foundation that built it.

00:29:15.240 We can't protect our nation if we're spiritually asleep.

00:29:22.340 The Bible tells us, put on the full armor of God.

00:29:24.980 You're not fighting flesh and bone.

00:29:27.860 Well, what is the full armor of God?

00:29:29.320 Truth, righteousness, faith, discernment, the gospel of peace, forgiveness.

00:29:35.840 weapons and armies

00:29:38.740 that's what everybody's

00:29:41.240 talking about today

00:29:41.980 but the real truth is

00:29:44.460 civilization cannot be saved

00:29:47.260 if it has lost its

00:29:49.160 soul

00:29:49.860 and history proves it time and time

00:29:53.300 again so the question

00:29:54.420 is not just about Iran

00:29:56.720 or terrorism or politics

00:29:59.160 the real question is this

00:30:01.400 are you awake?

00:30:03.580 can you even see the spiritual battle that is unfolding right now

00:30:13.660 can you notice that people everywhere the majority are pretending or maybe they're not

00:30:24.440 pretending they really believe that these are just political disagreements if we refuse to see it if

00:30:31.160 we refuse to stand up and say, guys, that's not what this is about, then we're continuing to

00:30:37.440 normalize evil. If we remain spiritually numb, then the tragedies that we all fear are not going

00:30:45.620 to just happen overseas. They're going to happen here. And by then, it'll be too late to stop them.

00:30:53.580 So my first message to you today is, wake up. Wake your friends up. Politely, kindly,

00:30:59.960 and with as much humor as you possibly can,

00:31:03.660 but we're arguing about all of the wrong things.

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00:31:13.880 I want to take Chuck quickly,

00:31:15.500 kind of a finish up last hour

00:31:18.100 where we were talking about the Patriot Act.

00:31:19.800 I'm sorry, not the Patriot Act,

00:31:20.880 the Save America Act.

00:31:22.200 Hi, Chuck.

00:31:23.460 Hi, Glenn.

00:31:24.580 Thanks for taking my call.

00:31:25.860 I appreciate it.

00:31:26.900 Sure, sure.

00:31:27.640 here's here's here's my argument man uh why is it needed the heritage foundation we all know who

00:31:34.500 the heritage foundation is correct yeah yeah yeah yeah it's since 1983 i was a freshman in high

00:31:41.040 school in 1983 to 2025 they found a total of 1620 right well 1,620 uh cases of fraud all types

00:31:54.480 Yep. From dogs voting to multiple voting to dead people voting. Yep. So the system there is working. The system for citizenship is working. It is a great. Let's just a great. Now, let's just say, God forbid I have something I have to move. Right. And something happens and I lose my citizenship.

00:32:17.100 proof my my my birth certificate i don't have a passport never needed to go out of state out of

00:32:22.820 the country so i don't have that i say i lose that i then have to call the state of tennessee

00:32:28.480 i know or drive to the state of tennessee and pay money to then where i move to

00:32:36.600 prove i'm a citizen that counts i know i did that plan that's an unconstitutional no it doesn't no

00:32:43.060 it doesn't chuck let's let's let's let's cut this down to what your real your what your real

00:32:46.240 question is or no what your real argument is is there's not a lot of illegal fraud and so we should

00:32:52.060 uh not have this save america act okay everything else is frivolous around that that's your real

00:32:57.240 argument so let me ask you this you know very few guns make it on the airplanes should we stop

00:33:02.140 checking bags because statistically very few guns are in bags why are we checking all of them

00:33:07.560 or fraud affects only a tiny percentage of transactions,

00:33:12.920 we should stop verifying signatures.

00:33:14.680 Because really, forgery happens so, or the Olympics.

00:33:19.580 Oh, this is a good one.

00:33:20.940 How many Olympians are actually using steroids?

00:33:25.060 I mean, the numbers are tiny.

00:33:28.060 So let's stop testing.

00:33:30.720 No serious person, Chuck, would accept that.

00:33:33.420 Why?

00:33:34.640 Because it is the principle.

00:33:36.320 In each of those cases, they exist for one reason, and that is the integrity of the system, not the inconvenience of protecting it.

00:33:46.800 Oh, I've got to get a drug test just to go play ball.

00:33:50.380 What are you talking about?

00:33:51.460 Yes, because of the integrity of the system.

00:33:55.700 Imagine this.

00:33:57.060 It's a jury trial.

00:33:58.880 Imagine the judge saying 11 jurors are citizens.

00:34:01.620 one probably isn't but statistically speaking that's not going to affect the verdict you would

00:34:08.040 not stand for that you wouldn't do it you with somebody going in why do you have to go get your

00:34:13.860 your passport or your birth certificate because you have to prove you're a citizen you'd have to

00:34:19.780 prove your citizenship to be able to get a passport imagine how crazy it would be if you went in

00:34:26.240 because you do want to leave the country you to go in and say uh i don't have my birth certificate

00:34:32.760 but just just pass me anyway i i'm telling you trust me i'm a citizen we wouldn't do that it

00:34:39.500 would be it would be ridiculous to think not because millions of people would be cheating

00:34:45.800 but because the system has to be beyond question if we start questioning you know if we if we're

00:34:54.300 questioning the number of athletes on the Olympics, isn't that less important than the

00:35:02.020 integrity of the vote? Because it doesn't matter how many people are actually cheating. It's that

00:35:07.660 people believe that cheating is happening. So it must be beyond all reasonable doubt. If you can't

00:35:16.820 do something as simple as protecting the most important institution which is the election

00:35:24.560 you don't really have a republic because nobody will believe in that institution so it's it's

00:35:31.060 not necessarily based on reality it is based on perception because when it comes to things like

00:35:37.740 i don't trust the voting system perception is reality and that is the reason you have to

00:35:44.400 protected. Thanks for your call, Chuck. I appreciate it. I want to get into something

00:35:49.520 else. I want to talk to you about something that I started talking about in the first hour,

00:35:59.300 and that is we don't recognize evil anymore, and we have to recognize evil. Almost all of our

00:36:06.900 our problems stem from a lack of recognizing truth and the truth that some things are evil,

00:36:21.860 that evil does exist. Right now, everybody is talking about how many warheads do we have left,

00:36:29.340 how many missiles do they have left, what is this going to cost, what is this going to do to oil,

00:36:33.900 etc etc but if you want to really understand what you're fighting and i'm not making a case

00:36:40.900 to fight iran or this war or anything i'm just i want you to understand because they have proxies

00:36:47.160 all over the world and you saw a couple of proxies uh up in new york that have the same kind of

00:36:55.100 ideology this weekend they could have killed a bunch of people you have to understand what you're

00:37:01.140 dealing with. And you can't understand it through politics. You have to understand

00:37:06.120 what the leaders actually believe and what their ideology is, what their theology is when it comes

00:37:12.420 to things like the end of the world. And it kills me because if a Christian regime believed this

00:37:20.260 anywhere in the world, the entire world would be against it. But the situation becomes really

00:37:27.220 serious once you realize who the people who are trying to get nuclear weapons are. The ruling

00:37:33.940 ideology in Iran is rooted on a branch. Not every Shia believes this. It's on a branch of Shia Islam

00:37:40.600 called Twelver Shiism. The name comes from their belief in the 12th Imam, divinely appointed leader

00:37:49.280 imams that succeeded muhammad the 12th one muhammad was the first the 12th one

00:37:56.300 um the muhammad al-mahdi he was believed to have disappeared in the ninth century in a well when

00:38:04.920 he was a child okay and the they call it a cultation i think which means he just disappeared

00:38:12.240 he's hidden he's gone but he's hiding in this well and according to the twelver belief he's

00:38:17.480 going to climb out of that well, and he's going to return in the end days, okay? And when he returns,

00:38:23.080 he's going to establish a perfect Islamic justice that will oversee the entire world. He's going to

00:38:29.740 defeat all evil, he will convert everyone to Islam, and he'll rule from Jerusalem.

00:38:36.760 And the world's transformed. Now, if that sounds familiar to you as a Christian, maybe it should,

00:38:41.600 okay? Because Christians also believe in the return of a messianic figure at the end of

00:38:46.020 history when the world is being washed in blood you know uh it's jesus christ and he returns to

00:38:51.880 rule from jerusalem and and defeat evil and establish justice you know do all the things

00:38:57.740 the 12th the mom wants to do except it's the same story except when you look closely

00:39:04.320 the similarities between the two become a little unsettling because the conditions that the 12th

00:39:11.880 theology says will precede the Mahdi's arrival look exactly like the conditions of the Bible

00:39:19.320 before the final deception of the Antichrist. The Antichrist will be revealed, according to

00:39:27.860 the Bible, and according to the Twelver tradition, the Mahdi will also be revealed because he's in

00:39:36.660 hiding now. And then it's a, it's war, mass death, political collapse, beheadings, blah, blah,

00:39:43.720 blah. Okay. I mean, it's not a good story. Either side, not a good story. One has a happier ending.

00:39:49.560 Well, if you're Islam and you believe that, you know, that, you know, Allah is the only true God,

00:39:55.020 then, you know, you have a happy ending there because everybody is either killed or beheaded

00:40:00.860 if you don't bow to the Mahadi, okay?

00:40:05.240 And what makes them so dangerous

00:40:07.660 is not only is their theology

00:40:09.540 the exact opposite of Christian theology,

00:40:12.220 is that they truly believe

00:40:15.120 that they can hasten his return

00:40:17.740 if they plunge the world into chaos, okay?

00:40:22.440 If they can create enough turmoil

00:40:24.720 that will accelerate his return

00:40:28.060 And history has to be pushed towards that crisis.

00:40:33.140 And that crisis prepares the ground for the final victory of Islam.

00:40:38.960 Again, compare that to the book of Revelation.

00:40:42.000 Revelation describes the time of global upheaval, wars, famine, pestilence, all of that.

00:40:48.020 A world that's desperate for order.

00:40:50.120 And then a powerful figure appears promising peace and justice.

00:40:53.260 But the Bible warns that is not the Messiah.

00:40:57.080 He's the deceiver.

00:40:58.060 You know, one of the names in the Quran of Allah is, he's described as the deceiver.

00:41:06.040 It's a little disturbing, but to each his own.

00:41:11.060 So it's the false savior.

00:41:15.140 You see the problem?

00:41:16.800 Both systems have a messianic figure.

00:41:21.200 Both describe the world before the final conflict.

00:41:24.160 Both describe the climactic battle between good and evil.

00:41:27.440 but the identities are reversed. The hero in one story looks very much like the villain

00:41:31.800 of the other story. Twelver radicals await as their savior, the Mahadi. Christians are warned,

00:41:41.660 that guy is the great deceiver. And Christians wait for Jesus. That's the one radical Islam

00:41:49.920 would see as the enemy. Two end times narratives, same battlefield, opposite sides, same story.

00:41:55.820 Now, let me be clear on something. Not every Shia Muslim believes in accelerating chaos. A lot of people reject that. The problem is the most powerful clerical authorities in Iran do believe it. In fact, Iran's leadership, they frame the military mission in these terms.

00:42:15.040 In fact, several, I mean, their armies reference the Mahadi directly.

00:42:22.360 The most obvious example is the IRGC, the Iraqi Revolutionary Guard.

00:42:28.800 They refer to the soldiers in the IRGC as soldiers of the Imam of the Age.

00:42:35.700 That's the hidden Mahdi.

00:42:37.200 Some units and institutions inside Iran explicitly reference the Mahdi lore, if you will.

00:42:50.100 One militia tells the recruits they're preparing for the Mahdi's return for the end of the world.

00:42:57.040 They are teaching this, and they're not only doing it in Iran, they're spreading this abroad.

00:43:03.440 So we're getting this poison into our societies.

00:43:07.200 These organizations frame their missions as protecting and advancing the Islamic revolution

00:43:13.140 to wash the world in blood until the Mahdi appears.

00:43:19.000 One of their most famous apocalyptic tradition in the Islamic world, the Shia Twelver Islamic world,

00:43:28.120 is the army carrying black banners rising from the east.

00:43:31.580 And the prophecy appears in several Sunni and Shia Hadith collections.

00:43:35.400 the tradition roughly states that when you see the black banners from the east go to them

00:43:42.100 even if you must crawl across the ice because among them is the army of the Mahadi

00:43:48.680 Khomeini the Ayatollah their first one in 1979 the foundation of the Iranian regime he taught

00:43:59.720 that the Islamic State must prepare the ground

00:44:02.900 for the Mahdi's return.

00:44:04.460 But he also thought that the diehard 12ers

00:44:08.820 were too dangerous to be a part of the revolution.

00:44:11.940 The ones he said were too dangerous

00:44:14.640 because they were so unpredictable

00:44:17.020 and could get everybody killed,

00:44:18.640 even though he agreed we have to cause the chaos

00:44:21.360 to bring the Mahdi back.

00:44:23.400 Those are the people that are in charge

00:44:25.400 of the country right now.

00:44:26.600 that's not religious speculation this is state ideology and these are the people that are arming

00:44:34.660 the terrorist groups and sending signals to sleeper cells possibly here in america

00:44:38.900 you know why let me ask you this why would you bomb your islamic neighbors everybody all of the

00:44:44.800 neighbors are like what did we do why are you doing that and what is trump doing saying to

00:44:50.320 each of those nations stand down stand down stand down don't get involved but they're all

00:44:55.180 ready to go in and pounce why western think tanks are saying that's just really bad strategy that's

00:45:02.180 just stupid is it is it or is it part of a strategy you know that the hardliners would understand

00:45:12.160 if i'm washing the world in blood i must have the conflict in the middle east first so let's get

00:45:19.840 everybody at war with each other. Chaos. You've got to stop thinking like a Westerner.

00:45:26.940 You know, if you believe the end of history is approaching and you can help usher it in,

00:45:31.280 and it begins with setting the Arab world on fire, why wouldn't you send your drones

00:45:36.820 into even friendly areas? You know, chaos is not tragedy in that case.

00:45:44.340 chaos is the signal

00:45:47.680 to those all around the world

00:45:49.200 that the final battle has begun

00:45:51.080 so

00:45:54.120 we have to ask

00:45:57.320 ourselves

00:45:57.840 who are we actually dealing with

00:46:01.080 if your theology

00:46:03.140 welcomes global chaos

00:46:05.300 and washing the world with blood

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