The Glenn Beck Program - January 23, 2025


Best of the Program | Guest: Carol Roth & Justin Haskins | 1⧸23⧸25


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Length

43 minutes

Words per Minute

168.72171

Word Count

7,307

Sentence Count

537

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

The New York Times is worried about all the right things, like what would the impact be if Trump takes out all of the cartels? Also, Stargate could end up being a catastrophe or one of the greatest inventions since mankind harnessed energy and electricity. Which one does it mean?


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 New York Times worried about all of the right things.
00:00:33.060 You know, like what would the impact be if Trump takes out all of the cartels?
00:00:38.580 That could hurt our economy. What?
00:00:41.080 Also, Stargate could end up being a catastrophe or one of the greatest inventions since mankind harnessed energy and electricity.
00:00:50.500 Which one, if not both? What does it mean?
00:00:53.700 Also, the president spoke at the World Economic Forum and Carol Roth is here to talk about the economy.
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00:01:57.180 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:02:01.820 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.
00:02:04.600 Well, Trump has decided to release the JFK assassination files immediately.
00:02:10.260 They're coming out sometime next week.
00:02:11.720 We'll see what has been held back.
00:02:14.340 In talking to Kash Patel, he said that he saw them, and it's not who they're protecting, but what they're protecting.
00:02:22.920 He wouldn't give us any more details other than that.
00:02:25.240 He is one of the guys who saw it with President Trump when President Trump decided to hold back one more time.
00:02:31.000 We'll see if these come out.
00:02:32.540 I'm still waiting also for an explanation of the drones, but that's kind of fallen off the news.
00:02:37.700 And, you know, he has been a little busy, a little busy with a couple of other things.
00:02:44.860 The New York Times, also busy.
00:02:49.240 I mean, I've heard some crazy things.
00:02:52.740 Stu, I just want to give you this and tell me how you get here.
00:03:01.620 New York Times, Mexican drug cartels are responsible for the untimely deaths of hundreds of thousands of people over the past two decades.
00:03:10.880 When factoring in the fentanyl, they smuggle into the United States.
00:03:14.620 Cartels are also culpable for the deaths of over 200 Americans every day.
00:03:20.100 They deal with murder and addiction, mass kidnappings, rape, torture, political intimidation, yada yada.
00:03:27.260 But the New York Times has a concern about the economic impact of Trump's plan to identify and hold the cartels responsible.
00:03:42.300 No, no.
00:03:43.920 Now, I'm trying to think about the positive impact the New York Times might have found with the cartels.
00:03:53.700 I mean, job creators, I guess.
00:03:57.280 Yeah.
00:03:57.580 Yes, absolutely.
00:03:59.160 Yeah.
00:03:59.760 You got that.
00:04:01.380 You got.
00:04:02.060 They're kind of in the medical business, kind of.
00:04:06.100 I mean.
00:04:06.420 The medical.
00:04:07.080 Okay.
00:04:07.360 Well, they're kind of pharmaceutical companies.
00:04:09.260 Yeah.
00:04:09.280 Okay.
00:04:09.660 Sure.
00:04:10.160 Sure.
00:04:10.540 I mean, you could treat certain ailments with their products.
00:04:13.960 They're into the entertainment business.
00:04:18.480 Yes.
00:04:19.200 Adult entertainment or child entertainment, you know, for adults.
00:04:22.680 How you want to be entertained.
00:04:23.940 Sure.
00:04:24.820 Sure.
00:04:25.380 I mean, would we get any good movies or music if there were no drugs in this country?
00:04:30.340 Probably not.
00:04:31.160 No.
00:04:31.420 You know, that's going to be.
00:04:32.860 Hollywood would change.
00:04:33.980 Hollywood is in trouble.
00:04:35.120 Hollywood would change, yeah.
00:04:35.600 Are they trying to say, basically, these cartels are used as coyotes, essentially, and the people
00:04:43.800 who are coming in for free, cheap labor, or free or cheap labor, won't be coming in anymore?
00:04:50.140 That hurts our economy.
00:04:51.420 I mean, again, I don't think that's a good argument, but is that what they're trying to
00:04:54.460 get to?
00:04:54.820 So what they're saying is, is that this is going to be hard on the banks.
00:04:57.940 It's going to be hard on the banks.
00:04:58.760 Why would cartels going away be hard on banks?
00:05:03.140 Well, because the banks are going to be responsible for knowing if your, you know, if your client
00:05:07.040 is a, you know, part of a drug cartel and, you know.
00:05:11.780 Okay.
00:05:12.440 So what additional, I mean, is this going to cause additional layers of paperwork for
00:05:17.340 everybody, essentially?
00:05:18.360 I don't know.
00:05:19.300 I guess.
00:05:20.660 And not just cartels, but like, you know, are your friendly neighborhood drug dealers?
00:05:25.280 You know, I, I think, I mean, if you're in that business, you probably aren't using
00:05:30.980 a bank.
00:05:31.520 You know what I mean?
00:05:32.300 Now, if you're a cartel, you want to use the banks.
00:05:34.860 But I mean, if you're coming in, you know, every year with, you know, 1.5 billion dollars
00:05:40.760 or, you know, even have holdings of a trillion dollars, you know, I might want to ask, how
00:05:47.420 are you doing that?
00:05:49.160 I'm in the import export business.
00:05:51.520 Like a little bit more.
00:05:53.000 Like a little bit more.
00:05:55.280 Uh, as you know, you also put down here, you're in the entertainment industry and pharmaceuticals,
00:06:02.100 but I haven't seen anything on the shelves, uh, from you.
00:06:07.400 Now, Elizabeth Warren has reliably told me that, uh, own, own P criminals only use cryptocurrency.
00:06:13.760 So maybe that, why would they need the banks?
00:06:16.220 I don't understand.
00:06:17.140 Why would it affect the banks in any way?
00:06:18.900 I don't, I don't know.
00:06:20.280 I don't know.
00:06:20.800 Uh, but, uh, you know, I just, you know, as I said yesterday, if I were an entrepreneur
00:06:27.520 and I were in Mexico, I might start coffins.com, uh, you know, because I think there's going
00:06:35.500 to be a run on coffins.
00:06:36.900 And, you know, as long as Gavin Newsom isn't there, he's not going to put any, well, there's
00:06:40.900 a coffin shortage, so, you know, let's not raise the price of coffins.
00:06:44.360 He's not going to do that.
00:06:45.600 You can, you can price on demand.
00:06:47.880 I'm guessing.
00:06:48.620 Wow.
00:06:48.900 In Mexico.
00:06:49.460 So when there's a rush for coffins, because I don't know, uh, our special forces have
00:06:54.820 killed all of the people in the drug cartels, you can make some money.
00:06:58.800 What's your impression on what Trump actually does here?
00:07:01.920 We talked a little bit about this yesterday, but like, what, what, what's the, what's the
00:07:05.980 specific plan?
00:07:07.200 I know you don't, you know, I'm, you're not going to reveal anything, but like, what was
00:07:09.940 I don't, you, I, I, I, uh, you have thoughts and impressions, let's say.
00:07:14.360 Ah, so thoughts and impressions.
00:07:16.220 Thought you, what, when you talk, when, when basing this completely on your thoughts and impressions,
00:07:19.920 yes, and not anything else, what, what would Trump, what, what, what would be the approach
00:07:24.400 here to take out the cartels in Mexico?
00:07:26.520 Uh, he would assign people to make a list of, uh, who those, those terrorists are.
00:07:33.420 Will they be checking it twice?
00:07:34.500 They'll check it twice.
00:07:35.340 Okay.
00:07:35.500 Will they find out who's not a, you're nice?
00:07:37.240 Yeah.
00:07:37.380 That's what they're looking for right now.
00:07:38.780 Uh, and then, uh, then they'll give it to the president and they'll say, uh, here's
00:07:44.060 the case against these guys and this cartel, uh, and many other cartels.
00:07:49.960 And, uh, the president will say, what do you recommend?
00:07:53.100 And they'll say, we go in at night, uh, with our, uh, you know, night vision and we kill
00:07:59.540 them all.
00:08:00.120 And he says, okay.
00:08:03.240 And so then we go in at night and we kill them all.
00:08:06.640 And in the morning, everybody wakes up surprised cause they're dead.
00:08:09.820 I was going to say, do they wake up?
00:08:11.680 Coffins.com.
00:08:12.280 Okay.
00:08:13.440 And just leaves like a row, like a rotating, just a repeating ad on the television for
00:08:18.820 Coffins.com.
00:08:19.680 Coffins.com.
00:08:20.460 Are you a member of the cartel?
00:08:24.900 Uh, you might be, you might consider becoming a franchisee owner of Coffins.com.
00:08:30.600 Uh, yeah, I think that's what he's going to do.
00:08:32.340 Now he's not going to, he's not going to play around.
00:08:34.280 You are going to see death and destruction of these cartels.
00:08:38.120 And, uh, you know, I don't, I don't, I'd be shocked to find out if that was our special
00:08:43.900 forces doing that.
00:08:45.420 Gosh, darn it.
00:08:46.040 Yeah.
00:08:46.600 That would be a shocking, shocking thing.
00:08:48.480 So that's, it's an under, essentially an undercover plan where you're sending in undercover.
00:08:54.000 I'm not sure how he's going to do it.
00:08:55.320 If it's going to be undercover or if it will be on, you know, it might be like survivor,
00:09:00.000 uh, except it's a real kind of situation.
00:09:02.600 Do you have this week on survivor who's going to survive in this cartel?
00:09:06.500 Do you have the, uh, maybe, uh, do you have some sort of arrangement with the Mexican government
00:09:14.820 on this?
00:09:15.860 Like, do you say to them, look, we're coming in, whether you like it or not.
00:09:19.480 He already did.
00:09:20.720 He already said that.
00:09:22.540 Uh huh.
00:09:22.860 But I mean, there's a certain level of, of Donald Trump saying things in a negotiation.
00:09:27.140 I don't think they're, you know, like yesterday, uh, yesterday at the WEF, they asked the, uh,
00:09:33.000 president of, uh, Panama, you know, are you worried about the president just taking the
00:09:38.960 Panama canal?
00:09:39.580 And he said, get serious, get serious, please get serious.
00:09:44.400 I don't know.
00:09:45.180 I, I, I think Donald Trump might be serious about that one.
00:09:48.040 Not about Greenland.
00:09:49.040 He's never said he's going to just go take Greenland or Mexico or, uh, uh, Canada, even
00:09:53.760 though the Canada one would be easy.
00:09:55.740 Uh, he's, he's not gonna, he's not doing that, but he is very clear.
00:10:00.080 I am going to kill the cartels because they're terrorist operations and they're operating here
00:10:05.800 in the United States and causing a lot of pain and suffering.
00:10:07.840 And so I'm going to kill them all.
00:10:09.180 I mean, he's designated them terrorist groups, right?
00:10:11.140 And we know what, what has happened with, you know, uh, Al Qaeda or whatever, when you,
00:10:15.640 when he designated a terrorist group, it gives us, uh, uh, what we consider and other
00:10:19.860 countries don't consider the legal authority to go in and do these types of things.
00:10:23.460 Because Mexico no longer has the legal authority to do anything because they're run by the
00:10:29.080 cartels.
00:10:29.780 So you're going to see a lot of feigned outrage at the beginning until he gets rid of these
00:10:34.900 cartels.
00:10:35.440 And then they're going to go, thank you.
00:10:37.880 Well, that's what, and that's what I wonder, because we've had this relationship with certain
00:10:41.560 other countries where we've gone to them and said, Hey, we're doing this, whether you
00:10:44.760 like it or not.
00:10:45.800 And they, some of them are angry and outrage, but a lot of them are like, Oh no, you shouldn't.
00:10:52.520 Okay.
00:10:52.900 Just, if you need to know where they are, let me know.
00:10:54.680 Right.
00:10:54.780 Like they want, they would love to get rid of this problem.
00:10:57.120 I think, and it's depending on who you're talking about in the Mexican government, you
00:11:01.640 like to get rid of this because they're challenging your power.
00:11:04.380 The people will be very happy.
00:11:06.660 If it happens, yeah.
00:11:07.460 The people in Mexico will be very, very happy.
00:11:09.180 Right.
00:11:09.900 Uh, and, uh, so it's not going to be real unpopular in Mexico with the average everyday
00:11:15.640 people.
00:11:16.080 But what would be unpopular, right?
00:11:17.700 Like, let's just say we had a problem with, uh, you know, I don't know, cartels in our
00:11:21.540 country and the Mexican government was upset with the reverse situation happening.
00:11:24.960 They're crossing the border.
00:11:25.880 They're doing all these terrible things.
00:11:27.020 They sent in their special forces into our country without our approval.
00:11:31.300 We would, we're a sovereign nation, right?
00:11:33.440 We would be upset about that.
00:11:34.540 Yeah, we would be upset.
00:11:34.980 Now, we're the big boys on the, on the, on the, on the, on the street.
00:11:37.920 So we don't have to care necessarily about that, but.
00:11:39.760 Let's, let's actually flip that.
00:11:42.040 Okay.
00:11:42.340 Let's say we were in the situation that Mexico's in, where we try to vote mayors in, we try
00:11:49.540 to vote, vote governors in, and they're just slaughtered in the streets because they say
00:11:54.180 I'm taking on the cartels and they slaughter everyone in, in, uh, government that is even
00:12:01.460 whispering about that.
00:12:03.300 Yeah.
00:12:03.480 So we've tried to vote them out and we, as people know that our government is now in
00:12:09.660 bed with the cartels and it's getting worse and worse and worse.
00:12:12.780 And Mexico says, you know what?
00:12:15.800 Enough of these cartels, they are hurting our people.
00:12:19.480 And so we're going to come across the border and we're going to take care of them because
00:12:23.060 you won't.
00:12:24.660 Would you really be upset?
00:12:26.700 My gosh, they're violating our borders.
00:12:28.820 I would be all for it quietly.
00:12:31.440 Right.
00:12:31.840 That's, that's the part I think is interesting.
00:12:33.860 I think if I were the president of the United States and in this situation and the president
00:12:37.880 of Mexico says, we've got these great special forces, we're coming in and taking them out,
00:12:40.660 whether you like it or not.
00:12:42.000 I think that's what I would say.
00:12:43.320 I would say, well, because I think as a country, you can't just give your nation to the other
00:12:49.120 nation, right?
00:12:49.940 Like Mexico, like if we have the authority to cross the border and they just are like,
00:12:53.360 yeah, please, anytime you can come over and police in our country, please do so.
00:12:56.760 Then they're not a sovereign nation.
00:12:58.200 Yeah.
00:12:58.320 We're not policing.
00:12:59.540 Right.
00:12:59.900 Well, kind of we are.
00:13:00.860 I mean, it's just a very aggressive form of international terrorist group.
00:13:04.640 Right.
00:13:05.080 That is, is crossing our borders and causing, it's still a form of law enforcement.
00:13:09.280 I mean, we are, but you would, you would maybe say, well, we would never allow that,
00:13:15.100 but you'd want it to occur.
00:13:17.060 Yes.
00:13:17.340 And you'd encourage it and you'd assist in any way possible.
00:13:20.360 I'm curious if Mexico would do that.
00:13:22.080 You would take note of everyone in the federal government and your local government.
00:13:26.400 Who opposed it.
00:13:26.900 Who opposed it strongly and meant it.
00:13:29.200 You would be like, okay, they're part of it.
00:13:30.540 I got it.
00:13:31.080 They're part of it.
00:13:31.300 Right.
00:13:31.640 And you'd probably be right.
00:13:33.060 Yeah.
00:13:33.220 So I hope that's what Mexico does.
00:13:35.540 I just don't know what this, especially this new, this woman who's trying to get into like
00:13:40.520 little fight, you know, peeing contests with Donald Trump over these types of things.
00:13:44.760 I don't think that's a good approach.
00:13:46.080 No, this isn't a, this isn't a little peeing thing.
00:13:48.500 I'm saying that's what she's doing.
00:13:50.080 She's publicly coming out.
00:13:50.900 Oh yeah.
00:13:51.620 Well, if you're going to rename it Gulf of America, we're going to look at this region.
00:13:55.660 This is actually ours or whatever.
00:13:57.340 She's trying to pull.
00:13:58.080 We're going to stop sending you sombreros.
00:14:00.400 Okay.
00:14:00.820 Whatever.
00:14:02.180 There was the sombrero threat.
00:14:03.660 I don't know.
00:14:04.060 I don't know if that's really that.
00:14:05.840 But I mean, like that was what she was doing.
00:14:07.720 She was doing, essentially she was acting like a guest on the view.
00:14:10.460 Yeah.
00:14:10.740 Right.
00:14:10.940 Like, oh yeah, well, I'm a strong woman and look at me.
00:14:14.600 I'm going to rename your place.
00:14:16.580 Stop it.
00:14:17.580 Like that nonsense.
00:14:19.020 Right.
00:14:19.140 If that's, if that's what she decides to be.
00:14:22.160 That's fine.
00:14:22.500 She probably won't do it this way.
00:14:24.100 She'll probably complain about it.
00:14:25.400 And that, that's going to be.
00:14:26.480 If she is corrupt and in bed with the cartels, the people of Mexico will decide that after all of the pressure is off because we've killed the cartels.
00:14:36.620 I hope that.
00:14:37.160 I mean, I just think there is, I mean, they're going to try to cause problems in here.
00:14:41.540 But I have to tell you, you have no idea what you're up against with the United States military, our special forces.
00:14:47.340 You have no idea.
00:14:49.760 Oh, these are highly trained.
00:14:51.060 Are they?
00:14:51.720 Mm-hmm.
00:14:52.540 I don't know.
00:14:52.960 I'm going to put my money on the U.S. special forces.
00:14:55.440 That's what I'm going to do.
00:14:56.480 And I don't think they're going to win in that fight.
00:14:59.520 And let me ask you this related question.
00:15:03.080 We've complained a lot about, you know, DEI in the military, that the military has gone soft, that we're, you know, we've had all these problems.
00:15:10.080 Pete Hegseth wrote a book about it.
00:15:12.180 He's the central part of why he's going into this role.
00:15:15.460 Are we too far gone?
00:15:17.300 Is it possible that we don't have enough of the, of what we need in the military to accomplish these tasks anymore?
00:15:26.040 For Mexico?
00:15:26.980 No.
00:15:28.500 We're okay.
00:15:29.140 For multiple funds, fronts?
00:15:31.340 Yes.
00:15:31.980 For our special forces, our teams to go in, in the dead of night and kill all these people?
00:15:38.300 No.
00:15:39.300 That's not beyond our reach.
00:15:39.840 We're still prepared for that.
00:15:41.020 Oh, yeah.
00:15:41.840 Yeah.
00:15:42.180 Good to hear.
00:15:42.760 Yeah.
00:15:42.880 So the burner launcher was, uh, started and designed by, uh, the guy, uh, who designed it is a guy who was in, um, on the freeway and somebody had road rage and they were following him and, you know, trying to race him and everything else.
00:16:01.700 And it was, he was really disturbed and he tried, he went over to the slow lane, slowed way down.
00:16:06.180 The guy did the same thing.
00:16:07.040 So he decided, I'm just going to pull over.
00:16:08.780 The guy's not going to pull over.
00:16:10.400 He'll just pass me.
00:16:11.220 Well, when he pulled over, so did the other guy.
00:16:14.140 And the other guy just flew out of his car and it was, and he looks in his rear view mirror and he says, oh my gosh, this guy's coming at me.
00:16:20.020 He reached to his glove box and almost pulled out his gun, decided not to, decided to, uh, deescalate the situation.
00:16:28.380 And he walked out and he was beaten on the side of the street within an inch of his life.
00:16:33.500 And he said, I'm not going to shoot somebody for road rage.
00:16:37.360 Uh, you know, I, I'm just not.
00:16:39.340 Uh, he said I would, but I would have pulled the gun if I had to do it over again, but I don't want to kill somebody for it.
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00:17:09.420 All right.
00:17:11.360 Can we pull up just, uh, real quickly?
00:17:13.700 Uh, the president is addressing the world economic, uh, forum at Davos.
00:17:18.700 And even throughout the world, food prices and the price of almost every other thing.
00:17:24.680 We're going to talk about that.
00:17:25.440 We have a couple of producers watching this for us.
00:17:28.100 They're going to give us an update on this as we go.
00:17:30.480 And we'll, we'll go back and, uh, go over his speech.
00:17:33.260 This should be hopefully a very strong speech on, um, America is America and we're not playing
00:17:42.160 your game anymore.
00:17:43.500 Uh, but let's see.
00:17:44.760 Carol Roth is joining us now.
00:17:46.140 What do you expect the president to say in this, Carol?
00:17:49.000 I mean, I've got a hope.
00:17:50.720 I hope he says, you know, we're going to defund, uh, ourselves from you.
00:17:54.620 We're not going to support you anymore.
00:17:56.060 We're not going to give you money.
00:17:57.180 And, you know, we're sick of NGOs sticking our nose in their business, kind of like he
00:18:01.560 did with the world health organization, which I was really excited about.
00:18:04.920 Um, so I'll be listening for that.
00:18:06.600 Glad I'm not sure if that'll happen this time around, but that would be best case scenario
00:18:10.260 for me.
00:18:10.860 Do you think he knows who the world economic economic forum really is?
00:18:17.060 I've got to imagine with the people who are in his circle, the same people who are advising
00:18:22.600 him, um, you know, on WHO, on DEI and ESG that I can't imagine how the world economic
00:18:30.300 forum doesn't enter into that conversation with that group of people.
00:18:34.300 So, you know, I would be surprised, but then again, many things have surprised me over time
00:18:39.520 and I'm not a betting woman.
00:18:40.600 So tell me what you see the president doing this week that you think signals really good
00:18:47.060 things or bad things.
00:18:48.640 Well, I think just the general tenor of having problem solvers in the white house and on his
00:18:55.300 team, instead of people who are intentionally trying to create problems, it's a huge, um,
00:19:01.500 it's a huge, you know, what a concept to us, right.
00:19:04.700 Is that we're seeing, um, every time he's coming out with one of these executive orders or putting
00:19:10.460 something out there, it's in an attempt to solve an actual real problem that is going to
00:19:15.920 make America better instead of trying to create problems that is making America worse.
00:19:20.480 And so that is a very refreshing change.
00:19:23.020 Certainly there are many things to attack and we all have our wish lists of, you know, how
00:19:28.000 that comes down.
00:19:28.980 And certainly some of these things come in partnership with Congress.
00:19:32.620 So, um, you know, the number one thing, you know, on, on my agenda is to try to get this
00:19:36.880 corporate transparency act repealed.
00:19:38.700 So it'd be really great to hear him say that that's jettisoned, but, uh, I'm not sure if
00:19:42.900 that's coming quite yet, that's, that is being introduced by Rand Paul and somebody else in
00:19:48.940 Congress.
00:19:49.320 They're trying to get that to go through Congress, which is good, right?
00:19:53.240 Okay.
00:19:53.480 So let me give you the update on that.
00:19:55.000 So actually, so just to give people context, um, this is what Glenn and I have been talking
00:19:59.520 about for almost a year.
00:20:01.060 It's a rule that is basically coming from the financial crimes enforcement network division
00:20:06.800 of treasury authorized by Congress, unfortunately, that says that small business entities.
00:20:12.180 So if you have an LLC or an S corporation have to register with the financial crimes division
00:20:19.260 of treasury, and Oh, by the way, we're going to exempt big businesses and we're going to
00:20:23.080 exempt financial services companies, but we really want to, we really want to prevent money
00:20:27.020 laundering and cartels.
00:20:28.120 So we're going after you small businesses and the biggest challenge, you know, not only
00:20:32.320 is that government overreach, but the fines are egregious.
00:20:35.000 You could face jail time or daily fines up to almost $600 a day.
00:20:40.040 So this is going for a second.
00:20:41.000 When, when was this supposed to go into effect?
00:20:42.800 Cause I haven't filed anything on, nor am I going to.
00:20:45.420 Okay.
00:20:45.660 So there is an injunction in place.
00:20:47.080 So originally the original deadline was the 31st of December.
00:20:50.740 Right.
00:20:50.980 Then we got this, uh, there are many lawsuits in place, but the one we're focused on is
00:20:54.720 the one from the NFIB and CIR and some other folks.
00:20:58.240 Um, and that one got a nationwide injunction put in place saying that the treasury could
00:21:03.700 not enforce this and they couldn't enforce penalties.
00:21:06.680 Well, then that was overturned and then that was overturned again, or stayed as they call
00:21:11.840 it.
00:21:12.020 So right now where we stand is that the government has, um, appealed the injunction, this nationwide
00:21:18.600 injunction that says that you do not have to file right now.
00:21:21.220 They've appealed just that piece to the Supreme court.
00:21:24.440 So if the Supreme court does not overturn that injunction or stay, stay the injunction as
00:21:30.220 they call it, then this goes to the courts at the end of March.
00:21:34.080 So we have a few different paths here.
00:21:35.860 We have the courts, uh, we have the Trump administration that could jettison it.
00:21:40.080 And then, as you mentioned, we have Congress.
00:21:42.140 We have some wonderful members of Congress who actually introduced repeal bills last year
00:21:46.840 and have now reintroduced them.
00:21:48.320 So in the house that is representative Warren Davidson of Ohio, and in the Senate, it is
00:21:54.180 Tommy Tuberville.
00:21:55.520 Um, and we have gotten lots of co-sponsors.
00:21:57.880 So right now I heard, I heard in the, this morning in, in, uh, the house with 79 co-sponsors
00:22:05.020 it's called the repealing big brother overreach act.
00:22:07.840 And then as you mentioned on the Senate side, you have really big names like Rand Paul who
00:22:11.980 are now co-sponsored.
00:22:13.040 So this is getting momentum.
00:22:14.520 Uh, we're getting more members of Congress to understand how devastating this is for
00:22:18.520 small business.
00:22:19.120 So it's the repealing big brother overreach act perfectly named this time around.
00:22:24.400 And what we need is we need everybody to call their representatives, call your senators and
00:22:29.240 tell them that they're not already one of the co-sponsors they need to jump on because
00:22:33.360 that is just the surest way of Congress is to repeal that.
00:22:36.560 Then this is done.
00:22:37.500 We don't have to worry about the Trump administration.
00:22:40.200 We don't have to worry about anything else.
00:22:41.460 And I will have to say, I've, I personally sent an email to Scott Besson at treasury.
00:22:46.340 So I don't know.
00:22:47.600 What, where does he stand on that?
00:22:49.780 So it's interesting.
00:22:51.020 So, um, I, I don't, I've only met him, I think once or twice in the media.
00:22:55.180 Um, so I don't really know him personally, but I sent a message there anyway.
00:22:58.800 He is a big main street supporter.
00:23:01.660 He did a great presentation at the Manhattan Institute over the summer where he talked about
00:23:06.700 this big tent that the Republicans are creating and how crucial it is for small businesses
00:23:12.440 to participate.
00:23:13.420 And he has echoed that language.
00:23:15.300 We heard that from him again in his testimony, how important small businesses.
00:23:19.260 So the fact that he understands that main street needs to be leading this growth forward,
00:23:25.680 I think is really huge.
00:23:27.580 Let's hope that that means that he understands how this kind of regulation, because he's also
00:23:32.520 a deregulation guy, let's hope that he understands that this is important, but again, he hasn't
00:23:37.020 been confirmed yet.
00:23:37.960 He's not in place.
00:23:38.900 So we're just, we're trying to work all these different angles.
00:23:41.260 And I, I have to tell you, I, I like that we are using the system and not necessarily running
00:23:47.100 this through an executive order, which could just be next president could come in.
00:23:50.780 The best thing that could happen is it goes through Congress and they repeal it because
00:23:54.920 then they have to relaunch it again the next time, not just, you know, undo an executive
00:24:00.460 order.
00:24:00.920 True, but at the same time, treasury does fall under the executive branch and treasury
00:24:06.000 is the one that's putting this out.
00:24:07.560 So if treasury says we're going to jettison it, yes, we could get it back again, but it
00:24:11.420 would be a good step that I think would give Congress a lot of comfort in terms of, of
00:24:15.880 going through with the repeal.
00:24:18.000 Okay.
00:24:18.500 So let's talk a little bit about China.
00:24:21.700 China is, I mean, it appeared last week and I, I, I said, I don't know if I said this
00:24:29.100 on the air, but I said, what happened to China?
00:24:32.520 I think it was last week when they really hit, uh, some real trouble in the overnight
00:24:38.320 markets.
00:24:38.760 And it looks like their banks were collapsing, et cetera, et cetera.
00:24:41.820 It looked to me like Bear Stearns, that this was the big, this was the warning sign that
00:24:49.180 things are really dicey in China.
00:24:52.420 Am I overreacting to that?
00:24:55.040 So it's interesting.
00:24:56.380 I think there are two camps here and the camp that you're talking about is certainly, um,
00:25:01.400 the one that we're hearing more about a lot of people saying, oh, China is going to break
00:25:05.480 and, you know, they're going to, they're, they're going down there in this deflationary
00:25:09.060 spiral.
00:25:10.020 Isn't that great?
00:25:11.400 Of course, um, you know, me being the nerd that I am, Glenn, you know, I spent a lot of
00:25:15.140 time reading economic research and there is this contrarian view that there are some
00:25:20.780 metrics that are happening that don't really add up.
00:25:23.600 And the fact that China may have more runway than us actually says that this may be worse for
00:25:29.480 us than China.
00:25:30.740 So let me just give you a thought experiment for a second.
00:25:33.800 So China is in this crazy, you know, supposed spiral.
00:25:37.660 Everything's about to break.
00:25:39.740 Where would the flight to safety in your estimation be if that were really the case?
00:25:45.740 If China were about to break?
00:25:47.860 Yeah.
00:25:48.100 Where's the flight to safety?
00:25:49.320 It would be the United States.
00:25:51.640 Right.
00:25:51.980 U.S.
00:25:52.320 Treasury markets, right?
00:25:53.320 That would be the safe, the safe bet.
00:25:55.260 And historically, you know, last 10 years, when there's some kind of issue with the yuan,
00:26:00.900 you would see that kind of showing up in the Treasury market in a very correlated way.
00:26:05.320 But the exact opposite is happening.
00:26:07.900 Our we're not getting our yields down when there's more interest in the Treasury market,
00:26:12.080 right?
00:26:12.360 There's more demand for the bonds and the bonds and the yields trade in opposite directions.
00:26:16.500 You would see our yields coming down.
00:26:18.940 Now, the Fed has cut rates in the 10 year yield.
00:26:22.280 What's been happening?
00:26:23.580 It's been going up.
00:26:24.160 It's been going up.
00:26:25.680 So if China were in so much trouble, wouldn't everybody be flocking to the U.S.
00:26:31.200 market and wouldn't our yields be going in the opposite direction?
00:26:35.040 Why do you suppose they're not?
00:26:36.460 What information does somebody have?
00:26:38.780 That's a signpost that says, well, maybe it's actually worse for us that this is happening.
00:26:43.680 And there's a bigger issue at play than for China.
00:26:46.800 Another one of these signposts, same kind of thing that with China potentially in this really
00:26:52.380 bad situation and maybe you've got tariffs coming down the line, all these things, you
00:26:57.760 would typically think that they would be raising a lot of dollars.
00:27:01.300 And to do that, they might be selling their gold.
00:27:03.940 Well, what has China been doing?
00:27:06.120 They've been selling.
00:27:07.400 Hiling.
00:27:08.540 They've been doing the opposite.
00:27:09.880 They've been taking it in.
00:27:10.900 So we're getting these decoupling of macroeconomic rules that have been in place.
00:27:17.260 And one of the theses out there, and I'll tell you, I'm not a China expert, but from an
00:27:21.860 econ standpoint, I'm listening to all the different takes to see what makes sense.
00:27:27.220 You know, we do not have a lot of runway.
00:27:29.640 And I'm sure we'll get into that in a little bit.
00:27:31.940 And China has more runway.
00:27:34.760 So if things go a little sideways there, they have more options to fix it.
00:27:39.760 Or maybe by them going sideways, that has a reverberation that actually sends us and
00:27:45.540 the entire, you know, Western part of the world into a debt spiral.
00:27:50.660 So the question is really who's in a worse situation here.
00:27:55.680 And so I think that, you know, the the obvious answer is, oh, no, what's going to happen directly
00:28:01.200 with China?
00:28:01.860 And I think that the more important thing is what's going to happen with us as a result
00:28:06.000 of what's going on with China.
00:28:07.680 OK, so is China now in the situation where we used to be?
00:28:13.320 They used to say, if America catches a cold, the rest of the world has pneumonia.
00:28:18.080 Are we are we kind of in that situation with China yet?
00:28:22.320 So I think it's in a different scenario.
00:28:24.960 So I think that from us, it was from a hegemony standpoint that we were, you know, kind of
00:28:32.100 the anchor of the global financial system.
00:28:34.720 And so if we caught a cold, everybody else got, you know, a little bit of the sneeze that
00:28:39.000 was sprinkled on them.
00:28:40.620 Here, I think it's more sinister.
00:28:42.600 Here, I think it's about what is China doing and perhaps Russia and some of these other countries
00:28:47.440 doing, knowing that it potentially could put pressure on the Western world to create these
00:28:54.400 debt spirals, to create these massive issues, you know, and to create, obviously, a lack
00:29:00.240 of confidence in our currency, which, again, going back to what I was pointing about, about
00:29:05.460 the the safe haven of the bond market, that that's no longer the safe haven.
00:29:10.540 It does sort of raise, you know, somebody's eyebrow to say, why?
00:29:14.940 Why is that happening?
00:29:15.880 And it seems like China, who plays the long game, may be doing it intentionally.
00:29:19.900 So I think, you know, we may be catching a cold more in the Wuhan way than in the traditional
00:29:25.440 U.S.
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00:29:35.420 If you have been following this show, I have talked about things for 30 years, and it is
00:29:43.580 a little terrifying to talk to you about things that were all theory that I saw coming, and
00:29:54.720 most people denied that it could even happen, and some people are still denying that it's
00:30:03.220 going to happen.
00:30:04.640 But I told you it would happen by 2030, and we are at the doorstep.
00:30:09.540 And so it is very important that you understand this.
00:30:15.060 We are at a place right now that could be remembered as the catastrophic moment for humanity.
00:30:25.200 This week is going to be remembered.
00:30:29.500 And for one event, and not Donald Trump's inauguration, it's going to be remembered for one event.
00:30:37.460 And that event is either going to be the largest catastrophe in humanity, the last chance we
00:30:43.460 had to stop it, or the greatest thing that has happened to mankind since we learned to
00:30:49.040 harness electricity.
00:30:51.440 I honestly, and no one will be able to tell you which it's going to be.
00:30:57.640 We will only know after it happens.
00:31:00.640 What I do know is that we are at an inflection point with technology, and we, as humans, are
00:31:12.280 in tremendous danger.
00:31:15.680 They announced this week the beginning of Stargate.
00:31:19.600 It happened on Tuesday.
00:31:22.360 Stargate is a brand new company that's goal is to build out massive AI infrastructure.
00:31:28.720 Now, I want to put this into perspective.
00:31:32.740 You know when they said the planet will be destroyed and humans will not be able to live
00:31:39.240 within 50 years or 100 years because everything's going to be destroyed by global warming.
00:31:45.940 And we said, well, if you believe that, you should put nuclear power back on the table.
00:31:51.420 We should be building the cleanest energy that is possible.
00:31:55.220 And they said, well, no, we've got to build new cars.
00:31:59.440 And now you know the fact that we don't have the infrastructure for electric cars.
00:32:06.200 Our power grid cannot handle electric cars, at least in any real amount.
00:32:15.380 30% of the countries on electric cars, the power grid won't hold.
00:32:19.500 You know this because California, when it was having its rolling brownouts and blackouts,
00:32:24.980 what was the first thing they said?
00:32:26.740 Do not plug in your electric car.
00:32:29.980 But nobody was talking about building nuclear power plants.
00:32:33.300 Nobody was talking about changing the infrastructure.
00:32:35.820 Everybody was saying it was way too expensive.
00:32:37.760 We can't change the infrastructure of our power grid.
00:32:40.600 But now that we are on the verge of AGI and ASI, something that people will still deny is close.
00:32:50.980 I'm telling you by 2030, it will be here, if not earlier.
00:32:56.120 Now that we are on that horizon and we see that this is possible, all the powers that be,
00:33:07.840 the same people that told us about global warming, the same companies that were trying to get us to eat bugs,
00:33:16.400 the same companies that have anti-human policies, they were not about human expansion.
00:33:24.440 They were about the opposite, right?
00:33:28.040 Control in the guise of saving the planet.
00:33:33.420 Now that we are on this road for AGI or ASI, suddenly we have to have nuclear power plants.
00:33:42.660 I think it's Microsoft that just bought Three Mile Island.
00:33:46.240 Wait, what?
00:33:46.780 I thought that was the most dangerous place on the planet.
00:33:50.960 Microsoft needs it for AI.
00:33:54.440 Stargate is going to build massive infrastructure, especially data centers and electricity generation.
00:34:06.840 You're going to see these anti-human people now building electricity generation systems and cloud systems for AI to assist you.
00:34:20.540 You're going to start hearing a word if you haven't already.
00:34:24.620 You're not going to hear about AI as much as you're going to hear about agents.
00:34:30.020 They'll be called AI agents.
00:34:32.760 But this is the last generation right now.
00:34:36.620 This may be the last year that humans are not dealing with AI agents.
00:34:43.260 This era is over.
00:34:47.540 An AI agent is going to sound really great at first.
00:34:51.040 It's going to be able to make your travel plans.
00:34:54.080 It's going to be able to clean up your life.
00:34:55.980 You won't have to have a secretary.
00:34:58.320 Even people who are poor are going to live like they have a personal secretary at their disposal to take care of all of these things that they don't want to do.
00:35:07.980 It's going to be mighty tempting.
00:35:10.000 And AI agents, the first ones, will be introduced in 2025, my feeling.
00:35:17.860 When you get to a GI, artificial general intelligence, and they're as smart as you are, can do as many things that you can do and more, and are flawless at it, how are you going to say no?
00:35:34.760 Now, here's the thing.
00:35:39.180 The AI revolution that is desired by big tech cannot happen.
00:35:46.660 But it's going to.
00:35:49.040 I've been talking about this for 30 years, and if you've listened to me, you'll remember me saying,
00:35:54.560 please, we have to have these conversations before it hits.
00:35:59.860 It's too late.
00:36:01.160 So we are out of good options.
00:36:03.460 You know, we just saw them shut down AI because they did a test.
00:36:11.080 If they tell AI to survive, or if it interprets its mission as a critical function,
00:36:20.100 it will find the power and build electricity generation plants itself and drain our electricity in ways you will not spot until it's too late.
00:36:30.840 It can build server farms without anyone suspecting that it's AI or an AI agent behind it.
00:36:38.720 Now, President Trump is clearly very excited about this potential, as we all should be.
00:36:46.600 We will cure cancer by 2030.
00:36:51.020 That's quite a ballsy statement to make.
00:36:53.900 But I believe by 2030, we will cure cancer.
00:36:57.560 Who's against that?
00:36:58.680 How can you possibly say no to these things?
00:37:03.940 And the dark side of AI is it is the ultimate jailer.
00:37:09.740 It will control your every move and every thought.
00:37:13.800 Do you want China doing that?
00:37:15.660 As I said, we are at a place where it's too late to have these conversations because somebody's going to get it.
00:37:23.540 And Donald Trump wants to make sure it's us.
00:37:27.140 And I think that's the best of the worst possibilities.
00:37:31.120 Now, he's excited about it as it pertains to economic development, because whoever wins this will control so much.
00:37:42.580 But its principal's investors, the principal investors in Stargate, they have pledged $100 billion in initial funding and $400 billion more over the next several years.
00:37:53.940 Side note, Elon Musk said they only have $10 billion.
00:37:57.340 This is not going to happen.
00:37:58.240 So is it going to happen or not?
00:37:59.920 I don't know.
00:38:01.120 But they are projecting the creation of 100,000 jobs or more.
00:38:06.160 That's a good thing.
00:38:07.260 But understand, those jobs are just to build the infrastructure.
00:38:12.760 These are not long-term jobs.
00:38:16.240 Now, what's not getting a lot of attention that needs to is that the major players behind this project are not trustworthy.
00:38:25.460 Do you remember when I was at AmFest?
00:38:31.120 And I started talking about we've got to know who is involved with this administration because there are going to be chameleons that come in.
00:38:41.360 So we have to know who the good guys are, who the bad guys are, who's actually on the team.
00:38:56.040 And now that we have all of this popularity, suddenly Donald Trump is cool with everyone.
00:39:03.140 We have to make sure those who wear masks are not coming in and claiming to be part of this team.
00:39:11.560 Well, that's who you have now in this launch of Stargate.
00:39:22.180 I want to go over this quickly, and then I'm going to bring Justin Haskins in who can clear some of this up.
00:39:28.480 But OpenAI, SoftBank, and Oracle, led by Larry Ellison, are three of the major figures that come up in the news reports.
00:39:37.680 But there is another major financier.
00:39:40.880 It's MGX.
00:39:42.640 Now, this is an extreme wealth tech investment firm based in the UAE.
00:39:50.640 The UAE government created MGX last year to be a leader in AI investment.
00:39:57.940 The UAE government is closely aligned with the World Economic Forum, and it has been for a long time.
00:40:03.980 It co-created the great narrative effort in the WEF.
00:40:09.200 That's one of the primary subjects in our book, Dark Future.
00:40:12.620 If you have not read Dark Future, you must go back and look at it.
00:40:17.260 They are highly supportive of designing AI and other emerging technologies with ESG in mind.
00:40:24.740 They are no friend to individual liberty, at least any way that Americans would understand liberty.
00:40:30.820 The UAE are also the same people who have said at the great narrative event that humanity needs a new great narrative because, and I'm quoting,
00:40:43.300 soon our digital world will be as important as the physical world, end quote.
00:40:49.700 They also said we're entering a, quote, new era of human evolution, end quote, and, quote, a second wave of human evolution.
00:40:59.520 All of this is in Dark Future.
00:41:03.040 Their involvement from the UAE in Stargate should be deeply troubling.
00:41:09.840 But what's made more disturbing is the fact that MGX is also a player in what I think is another $100 billion AI infrastructure effort that was launched in late 2024.
00:41:21.620 It may be rolled into this one, I'm not sure, but that project involves BlackRock, not good people, Global Infrastructure Partners, which has been taken over by BlackRock, not good, Microsoft, not good, and the UAE, also not good.
00:41:41.340 Now, Microsoft and BlackRock, also heavily evolved in the Great Reset Movement, worked closely with the WEF over the last years.
00:41:51.700 And Larry Ellison, the man behind Oracle, is one of the central figures behind Stargate.
00:41:57.140 He's on record gleefully predicting that AI will soon create the world's most sophisticated surveillance system.
00:42:05.400 Discussing the surveillance system, Ellison said, and I quote, citizens will have to be on their best behavior, end quote.
00:42:17.280 I want you to know, there is another completely separate movement that is happening that I believe is the antidote of this.
00:42:33.500 You are not going to stop this, but you need to know what's going on.
00:42:39.840 You must understand what's coming so you can be on the other side of this.
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