The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Charlie Kirk ｜ 8⧸15⧸19

00:00:00.000 Hey, kind of a spooky broadcast today. I mean, we start with the bones of Epstein.

00:00:09.360 I don't know if you know Jeffrey Epstein's neck was broken in several places.

00:00:15.060 Kind of difficult to do with paper sheets.

00:00:18.900 However, that's not the disturbing part.

00:00:21.480 The disturbing part is a story that we found in New York Magazine,

00:00:25.280 an interview with one of Epstein's bodyguards.

00:00:27.940 We get into that. We also talked to you about a deep fake that is really disturbing

00:00:34.700 because it is so good and stealthy.

00:00:38.860 The question is, who can you trust?

00:00:41.280 Also, Charlie Kirk will be there. I do give some porn. 0.96

00:00:46.060 I mean, it's just clickbait. The yield curve I tried to explain today.

00:00:50.800 And I lost my wig.

00:00:54.120 I lost my wig when it came to the Statue of Liberty yet again today.

00:00:58.760 Yes.

00:00:59.240 Because it continues to go on.

00:01:01.300 That's a worthwhile segment, especially if you hear the way the media is treating Cuccinelli on that one.

00:01:05.100 Also, tonight on TV, a pretty interesting show.

00:01:08.220 A guy who is a real left-wing guy.

00:01:12.400 Total, like, how you would describe, like, a social justice warrior.

00:01:15.620 Had a podcast, a comedian, and was constantly railing on conservatives and saying how awful they were and they should be fired.

00:01:22.720 Didn't he say that he called for me to be fired several times?

00:01:25.700 I think he said he put, the fact that you called him a name at one point, which we didn't even remember, he put it on his resume.

00:01:31.580 That's how much he hated you at the time.

00:01:33.680 So, he went through a bunch of stuff, including a couple of false Me Too type allegations,

00:01:40.380 and has now kind of gone through this firestorm and realized, wow, what I was doing before was incredibly wrong.

00:01:49.760 He's still left-wing, still does not agree with us on policy, but he's gone to the point where he's like,

00:01:54.120 this culture of, this cancel culture, if you will, is completely misguided.

00:01:59.080 And very dangerous.

00:02:00.100 Really interesting guy, Jamie Kilton, he's going to be on the show on TV tonight.

00:02:05.700 So, watch that.

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00:02:18.700 You had the telling of the Patrick Byrne thing.

00:02:22.740 That is the story, that's the story of Epstein and the corrupt FBI.

00:02:28.700 It ties into that, ties into the Russia scandal, the Hillary Clinton, what's really happening, who can you trust?

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00:02:53.160 Remember I told you that Jeffrey Epstein's autopsy had been done over the weekend and they were not conclusive.

00:03:05.080 Well, now we're getting a little bit more information on this.

00:03:09.840 An autopsy found that Jeffrey Epstein's sustained multiple breaks in his neck bones are deepening the mystery.

00:03:18.980 Now, here's what, here's what this means.

00:03:22.280 The, one of the bones that was broken in his neck is near his Adam's apple.

00:03:29.040 And it can happen that that bone breaks when you hang yourself, especially if you're an older person.

00:03:37.880 However, it's much more common, uh, among victims of a homicide by strangulation and, you know, to really snap your neck.

00:03:49.720 It's, it's, it's, it's why, uh, hangings were, uh, deemed cruel and unusual, uh, back in the 1800s when people were hung.

00:04:00.500 If you didn't, if you, if you lynched somebody, they are struggling for a long time.

00:04:06.100 They're not, their neck isn't snapping.

00:04:08.180 You know, you pull the horse away or you kick the table.

00:04:11.060 They don't have a long way to fall.

00:04:12.560 And so the, the, the snapping of the neck happens when you have the gallows and they have to fall a, a certain, uh, distance.

00:04:23.260 It's why the executioner's job, you had to look at the person's weight and you had to look at the person's height and you had to get the, the, the, um, the noose, if you will, to the right level.

00:04:36.000 So their neck would snap and it would, uh, end their life quickly.

00:04:40.140 You're not doing that at the edge of the bed.

00:04:44.280 So it adds more mystery.

00:04:46.080 Now it very well could be that he had an old frail bone in his neck.

00:04:51.320 There's multiple cracks in his neck, which seems unusual, but it doesn't mean anything.

00:04:58.300 We also know now that, uh, the two guards were sleeping and they falsified their, uh, their records.

00:05:06.100 They said they checked on them every 30 minutes.

00:05:07.960 Now they've admitted that wasn't true.

00:05:10.160 They were both sleeping on the job.

00:05:12.200 So most conspiracies can be explained away by incompetence.

00:05:19.320 But what I want to share with you is an article that I read today from New York magazine.

00:05:25.120 Epstein, and it's an interview done by a writer there, uh, who interviewed his, uh, Epstein's bodyguard about five years ago.

00:05:36.220 And he has it all on tape.

00:05:38.320 And so now that Epstein is dead, he wanted to go back and it was an unpublished, uh, interview, but it was all on the record.

00:05:47.740 So he can talk about it.

00:05:50.980 So now he's gone back and he's re-interviewed him, but things seem to have changed.

00:05:56.360 And I, I just want to, uh, I want to go through, uh, um, a few parts of this.

00:06:02.660 Uh, and it's just, it's, it's not, it's just a transcription of the interview.

00:06:07.800 So, uh, the interviewer is asking her, asking, uh, the security guard, the only guy that he had is a bodyguard.

00:06:17.740 He's a Russian former MMA fighter and, and seems very Russian as you'll see.

00:06:24.700 Um, he's asked, so you drove him to all three places.

00:06:28.560 Uh, yeah, he's in New York.

00:06:30.120 I didn't drive New York.

00:06:31.400 We, he had driver, whatever name was, he was like old family.

00:06:36.080 I was just training with him in New York, traveling with him.

00:06:40.180 I just drove him there, Palm Beach, because other places he had different drivers.

00:06:45.760 They're just the personnel, you know, who just drive him.

00:06:49.340 Someone drive him in New Mexico.

00:06:50.840 I'm quoting directly.

00:06:52.660 Someone drive him in Virgin Islands.

00:06:54.580 Actually, I just drove him here in Palm Beach.

00:06:57.660 You went with him to all the other properties.

00:06:59.780 Did you go with him to New Mexico?

00:07:01.180 Yes.

00:07:02.060 Uh, you worked and traveled with him 24 seven.

00:07:04.100 So that means you were on the plane with him.

00:07:05.380 Correct.

00:07:05.740 Yes.

00:07:06.560 You lived in his guest house.

00:07:08.440 Yes.

00:07:08.840 You lived, uh, lived alone in the guest house.

00:07:11.460 Of course, in Palm Beach, when we stay at Palm Beach, we have guest house.

00:07:16.120 Property manager lived there too.

00:07:18.640 Uh, he was working there before me.

00:07:20.900 Polish guy.

00:07:22.080 Yes.

00:07:23.320 Uh, does he had, did he have bodyguard abilities like you?

00:07:26.500 No.

00:07:27.780 Uh, so now let me just skip down.

00:07:29.780 So it, he's working with him all the time.

00:07:32.000 He's working out with him.

00:07:33.380 He's training.

00:07:34.400 It's clear.

00:07:35.180 He doesn't like Jeffrey Epstein.

00:07:37.700 He talks about how, uh, he's made fun of, um, um, and, and not listened to and just treated

00:07:46.740 like dirt by Epstein.

00:07:48.000 What were some of the places you drove him to?

00:07:50.560 Uh, I mean, when I work for him in Palm Beach, just business meeting, basically mostly down,

00:07:56.040 down there, lawyer's office, drop him there.

00:07:58.120 When he goes upstairs, I wait in car.

00:08:00.260 Ever heard about his case, why he was in trouble?

00:08:03.300 No, never talk about that stuff.

00:08:05.880 He never talked about any of that stuff?

00:08:07.900 No.

00:08:08.360 Really?

00:08:08.820 No.

00:08:09.660 In our conversation in 2015, you described his relationship with teenage girlfriends, and

00:08:15.080 I'm quoting,

00:08:15.620 So many times, uh, so many times I try to stop him.

00:08:20.120 I try to tell him my opinion about that.

00:08:22.720 He don't listen to me.

00:08:24.180 That's the reason why I'm not working for him no more.

00:08:27.160 I make him do that.

00:08:29.160 Let me go.

00:08:30.300 Do you remember saying that?

00:08:32.200 It's not teenage girls.

00:08:33.540 I never see any teenage girls.

00:08:35.800 Uh, I tell you, I never see teenage girls.

00:08:38.500 Plenty of times when I work for him, I never see anything improper or teenage girls around him.

00:08:43.660 That's what I say.

00:08:45.600 So wait, so wait, now you're saying that you only saw him with women older than 18 or 20?

00:08:51.580 All I say is, he had been with girlfriends, and there was a couple of girls.

00:08:56.680 I don't remember names.

00:08:58.200 She was 25, worked for him, an assistant, maybe 25, 23, whatever.

00:09:03.140 I don't know age.

00:09:04.500 Okay, but you definitely told me last time we talked.

00:09:08.880 No, no, no.

00:09:09.540 It's not that.

00:09:10.320 He working like work release on other stuff, and I just tell him, you know, he would order

00:09:17.640 his girlfriends around, and I told him, calm down.

00:09:20.780 It's not teenage girls.

00:09:22.280 I never see teenage girls in my life at his house.

00:09:25.340 That is what it is.

00:09:27.760 Misunderstanding completely, because that's what I'm saying.

00:09:31.700 Most of the time with reporters, they give me that kind of question.

00:09:35.680 And who told you I see teenage girls? 0.98

00:09:38.540 I never see teenage girls in my life.

00:09:41.040 And they say, okay, so wait a minute.

00:09:43.280 Here's another thing you said last time about Epstein and the girls you saw at his house,

00:09:48.520 specifically about moments when you were trying to offer him advice about his contact.

00:09:53.720 Quote, sometimes he tries to make a joke.

00:09:56.740 He'd say, thank you, grandma.

00:09:59.240 I don't need your opinion.

00:10:00.960 So when you try to do something good, he would try to make a joke in front of girls.

00:10:06.780 I never give anyone questions.

00:10:09.320 I'm still quoting.

00:10:10.940 It's one of my rules, actually.

00:10:13.400 I'd be honest with you.

00:10:14.400 I never ask any of my clients what they do for a living or how they do whatever they do.

00:10:18.220 I just do my job, and that's it.

00:10:19.780 Do you remember saying that?

00:10:21.160 Yes, that's what I said.

00:10:22.500 I feel like the cops watching me whenever he's on work release. 1.00

00:10:26.860 I tell him, don't do stupid stuff. 0.99

00:10:28.600 Don't put girlfriend in car and drive together. 1.00

00:10:31.700 Don't.

00:10:32.300 Watch it.

00:10:33.400 All extra attention.

00:10:35.760 But Epstein made fun of you in front of the girls, right?

00:10:38.620 Yes, that was his thing.

00:10:40.720 You say you never ask your employers questions.

00:10:43.780 Yes, that's normal answer.

00:10:45.440 People like him just do what he wants to do.

00:10:47.900 Because, like people talking and just, they already have some release.

00:10:53.320 And I understand.

00:10:54.760 And just read some papers about his, like whatever, teenage girls.

00:11:00.140 But that was how he answers.

00:11:02.580 So that's it.

00:11:03.840 So I don't know.

00:11:05.980 Here's another quote from our last interview.

00:11:08.520 Quote, he had a couple of girlfriends.

00:11:10.760 They have no idea of the degree of what they were doing.

00:11:13.360 But you can't tell nothing to them because they support him, kind of.

00:11:18.600 For the while, this one girl would be more attached to him.

00:11:21.800 He'd just fire her. 0.98

00:11:23.400 Fire them and keep them away. 0.98

00:11:24.960 For example, I'll give you some idea.

00:11:26.920 You have a private plane and you have three girlfriends.

00:11:30.320 And one girl can be more attached to him.

00:11:32.500 The next week, he don't take that girl.

00:11:34.700 He takes another.

00:11:36.000 And he just switched them.

00:11:37.620 He brings them on a couple of trips.

00:11:39.340 Then get different girls. 0.84

00:11:40.920 That's what he's doing.

00:11:41.840 Do you remember that?

00:11:42.600 Kind of not.

00:11:44.160 I don't remember.

00:11:45.680 Igor, wait a minute.

00:11:46.960 Wait a minute.

00:11:47.760 I understand this is sensitive.

00:11:49.160 No.

00:11:49.740 Now, this is really important.

00:11:51.560 This is starting to change.

00:11:53.860 No, no, no.

00:11:54.700 It's not just sensitive.

00:11:56.080 It's kind of little incorrect.

00:11:58.900 It's exactly what you said.

00:12:00.720 I can send it to you.

00:12:02.240 Here's something else you said.

00:12:03.740 It can be tricky, you know.

00:12:05.320 Normally, he always has me check the newspapers.

00:12:09.660 Nothing about me?

00:12:10.780 I say no.

00:12:11.560 He say they forget about me.

00:12:13.520 And then when I mentioned Epstein was being exposed for messing with teenage girls, you said, I'm not surprised at all.

00:12:21.940 I'm surprised how low he can be outside in the real world.

00:12:26.240 Someday, someday is going to call him and it will be real jail.

00:12:33.200 He has so much money, he can pay it off.

00:12:36.260 Me personally, if I caught him with my daughter or something like that, I'm not going to call the police.

00:12:41.880 I do something else.

00:12:43.060 Much worse.

00:12:44.020 That guy could try to sue me and manipulate the situation with his money.

00:12:47.880 That's the American way.

00:12:49.340 I know he screwed a lot of fashion girls also, screwed up a lot of fashion girls also.

00:12:55.800 That's a different story.

00:12:57.560 Do you remember saying that?

00:12:58.960 I remember one thing, like, if I be father and someone screw up my daughter, I don't care how much money he have.

00:13:08.160 I definitely do some bad thing.

00:13:10.820 That's what I said.

00:13:11.840 Before that stuff, I don't know.

00:13:13.420 I'm really like, Igor, I'm not making this stuff up.

00:13:16.240 I was really careful.

00:13:17.740 I'm, listen to this quote, I'm really careful too.

00:13:21.320 It was four years ago.

00:13:24.080 Maybe you don't remember what you told me or you're afraid.

00:13:28.780 Do you have anything to be afraid of?

00:13:31.020 I'm not afraid.

00:13:32.380 Beyond that, he is just dead.

00:13:35.200 I don't want anything incorrect.

00:13:37.320 Hold on.

00:13:38.080 When did you find out he died?

00:13:39.220 Then he goes on to talk about how he died and yada, yada, yada.

00:13:43.600 And it's just yes or no questions.

00:13:45.560 He's starting to get very cold.

00:13:47.380 I realize others tried to talk to you.

00:13:49.300 Did he ever offer you money?

00:13:50.420 Did anyone ever try to silence you?

00:13:52.380 No.

00:13:53.600 Epstein never tried to give you money.

00:13:56.640 I wonder what he was capable of doing since he settled a lot of lawsuits.

00:14:00.860 Nobody ever wanted to offer me money.

00:14:02.840 I don't care about money.

00:14:04.140 I don't, I want everyone just to leave me alone.

00:14:08.020 Just one thing.

00:14:09.040 When someone from newspaper right and from everywhere call you me Red Army Commando,

00:14:16.080 what do you mean exactly?

00:14:17.360 If it's untrue, if it's untrue, that would be over the top.

00:14:23.300 Yes, terrible.

00:14:24.540 So after that, they call me mobster.

00:14:26.780 Mobster?

00:14:27.480 Yes.

00:14:28.620 Okay, I didn't know that.

00:14:29.860 I'm standing with girls.

00:14:31.680 The girls just looking at me and the girls get scared.

00:14:35.000 Uh, so I don't, uh, know if you want me to say, uh, something and I don't want to.

00:14:41.000 I want to deal with no one.

00:14:42.860 I get that.

00:14:43.660 But you and I have a history.

00:14:45.800 Listen to what I say.

00:14:47.600 This between you and me.

00:14:49.640 Wait, you told me he would get phone calls, uh, the night before at eight o'clock and the

00:14:55.160 police were going to come.

00:14:56.340 He would get a heads up from the local police.

00:14:59.820 Silence.

00:15:01.180 You told me that, Igor.

00:15:02.700 You want me to, uh, read the quote?

00:15:05.740 Well, you can read whatever you want right now.

00:15:08.340 Uh, don't just, look.

00:15:10.900 You put yourself in big trouble.

00:15:14.240 He said, you said, he always do something wrong.

00:15:18.000 There were nights in question.

00:15:19.640 He would come home, uh, arrest and police before they come to the house, they would

00:15:24.840 call him and tell them we were coming at eight o'clock in the morning.

00:15:28.220 It's all corruption.

00:15:29.720 You know, that's the way your system is.

00:15:32.460 That's your quote.

00:15:33.980 Listen, do not put yourself in trouble.

00:15:36.700 Seriously.

00:15:37.880 We talked about this.

00:15:39.260 I understand.

00:15:40.480 We got this.

00:15:41.820 I'm telling you, you have to, uh, uh, I'm telling you to give you a chance to remember

00:15:48.400 because we talked about it.

00:15:50.360 I know it's hard.

00:15:51.840 I don't know what you mean about put myself in trouble.

00:15:54.600 Let it go.

00:15:56.060 Seriously.

00:15:56.880 Let it go.

00:15:58.680 Why is, why is it so important?

00:16:00.900 Are you worried about the local cops?

00:16:03.240 Listen, you're really smart.

00:16:05.660 I'm not going to, uh, offer that over the phone right now.

00:16:09.480 Okay.

00:16:09.860 You're really smart.

00:16:11.020 You have no idea, please.

00:16:13.160 What do you mean by that?

00:16:14.580 I can't explain to you.

00:16:15.980 I can't explain over the phone, any of this.

00:16:18.940 You said that last time, and we didn't talk for years, you can tell the world who this

00:16:25.200 guy was.

00:16:26.080 You were working with him for a long time.

00:16:28.140 You know what I mean?

00:16:29.340 Silence.

00:16:30.340 I totally understand what you think.

00:16:32.880 Um, he, he could have, uh, I totally understand that you think he could have had help committing

00:16:38.580 suicide.

00:16:39.500 First of all, I've got to go right now.

00:16:41.420 I've got other client.

00:16:42.800 You're still training people.

00:16:43.860 Yes.

00:16:44.320 Just be careful.

00:16:45.400 I'm not kidding.

00:16:47.320 What's your email?

00:16:48.620 Uh, don't do any of that kind of stuff.

00:16:50.540 Just don't play it seriously.

00:16:52.460 You can't tell me why?

00:16:53.800 No, I can't.

00:16:55.080 One more question.

00:16:56.320 What?

00:16:57.920 Uh, have you been talking to anyone in the government, the FBI?

00:17:01.120 Have they come to you?

00:17:02.320 Look great talking to you.

00:17:03.700 Seriously.

00:17:04.300 We talk later.

00:17:05.600 Be careful.

00:17:06.580 All right.

00:17:07.500 Bye.

00:17:07.860 So I read this this morning and my first thought was my friend, uh, Patrick Byrne.

00:17:15.060 Patrick Byrne is the CEO of overstock.com and he's a libertarian.

00:17:20.480 He doesn't have a horse in this fight except for America.

00:17:24.420 He's not a partisan guy.

00:17:26.420 He, he, he dislikes both sides equally, I think.

00:17:30.140 Um, and he's a very smart businessman.

00:17:33.400 Well, he was kind of, uh, ambushed.

00:17:37.960 He was, uh, you could see that he was surprised by the question and then he just answered it,

00:17:42.220 uh, when he was on Fox news, uh, just a couple of days ago, he was on for another reason to

00:17:47.780 talk about cryptocurrency, but then he started talking about, uh, what he knows about the

00:17:55.920 Russia investigation and also the, uh, investigation into the Clintons with the FBI.

00:18:04.000 And he said, I can't tell you why, but I know what happened.

00:18:09.260 Well, we've pieced together some, uh, at least part of it.

00:18:13.120 We know how he was involved with the Trump Russia investigation.

00:18:17.080 He was in the center of that kind of in this Hitchcockian sort of way where it's like this

00:18:23.020 everyday man kind of finding himself in the middle of this giant conspiracy.

00:18:27.580 And my first thought after reading this with, uh, Epstein's, uh, bodyguard was be very careful.

00:18:35.400 You do not know what you're dealing with.

00:18:37.080 Is this the kind of country that we are becoming and are we okay with it?

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00:19:01.680 Charlie Kirk is, uh, joining us now.

00:19:03.960 He is the founder and president of turning point USA.

00:19:06.900 Also the host of the Charlie Kirk show.

00:19:09.440 Uh, welcome to the, uh, welcome to the program, Charlie.

00:19:13.480 Um, great to be here.

00:19:14.660 Thanks so much, Glenn.

00:19:15.260 You bet I wanted to have you on.

00:19:16.820 I wanted to talk about, because you've been going, um, and talking to so many people.

00:19:21.980 You've been to the Iowa state fair.

00:19:24.240 You have been on the campuses, uh, for a couple of things.

00:19:28.860 First, I want to talk to you about the El Paso narrative.

00:19:32.580 Uh, how, how, how close are we?

00:19:36.400 You know, Donald Trump said last week that, um, he thought that he could sway even his base

00:19:43.540 to go for some things that he claimed were common sense, um, uh, gun control laws, like

00:19:51.200 red flag laws, et cetera, et cetera.

00:19:53.180 And the poll numbers look like that might be a possibility that 40% of Republicans are

00:19:59.240 even saying, yeah, we need stricter laws.

00:20:01.340 Is this, what, what is, what happened here?

00:20:05.640 How close are we, do you think, to making some fundamental changes on the second amendment?

00:20:12.820 Too close.

00:20:13.920 And thankfully, we still live in a country where if the majority wants to take our rights

00:20:19.900 away, they shouldn't be able to, and they can't.

00:20:22.720 That's the whole point of understanding and protecting natural rights.

00:20:27.360 I mean, thank goodness that we don't have voting by the mob that can, that can take away

00:20:33.180 our first amendment.

00:20:34.360 It's beginning to get that way, but this is a really important point, Glenn, that what

00:20:38.360 makes the Scottish enlightenment ideas so critical that we're enshrined in our constitution

00:20:43.160 is that it's sort of irrelevant if 55 or 60% of the country want to just by, by voter

00:20:50.540 decree, take rights that we have upon our, our birth, um, away from us.

00:20:55.100 And it's really important that when we talk about increasing government regulation, it might

00:21:00.060 sound good or feel good, but especially from the federal government, we have to act as if,

00:21:06.320 or say as if, what if the government bureaucrat that we distrust most had that kind of governmental

00:21:13.640 power?

00:21:14.260 So for conservatives, lest us not forget Lois Lerner.

00:21:18.000 Remember Lois Lerner who investigated the Tea Party and basically got up scot-free for,

00:21:23.160 you know, um, blowing up a lot of grassroots energy and enthusiasm in our base.

00:21:28.980 Imagine if she had the kind of control to register guns and to come after our second amendment, 1.00

00:21:35.120 right? All of a sudden, I guarantee you that the supposed support amongst Republicans for

00:21:40.400 increased gun control can diminish and, and would diminish and would decrease. So that's,

00:21:45.360 that's the way I think we have to frame this argument is, is you're going to be giving more

00:21:50.280 power to government bureaucrats that hate you. They hate your worldview. They want to make sure and

00:21:57.720 make certain that people that believe in libertine ideas or the, or a conservative worldview or Judeo-Christian

00:22:03.620 ethic will have a decreased amount of say and authority. And that should be said of the first 0.86

00:22:09.080 amendment as well, as well as the second amendment.

00:22:10.900 Why, why is this, why is this happening, um, with the left? Are they just playing a longer game and

00:22:17.780 they just know that these things always work out in their favor or, I mean, I don't understand the

00:22:23.260 disconnect. Donald Trump is a dictator. He's a Nazi. He is building concentration camps quick. Let's give 0.92

00:22:32.600 our guns to his government, which it's, it's again, that, that is the best argument to kind of cross

00:22:41.320 examine the left, um, lack of logic on this because wait a second, I thought they don't trust this

00:22:47.580 government because Donald Trump is in charge. I thought he's the one that is building alleged

00:22:52.320 concentration camps, which is just not true on the Southern border. Now the left wants that very

00:22:56.940 same government to take guns away. That doesn't make a lot of sense, but, but look from a broader

00:23:02.620 perspective here and a bigger picture is the left is embarking and they're in, they're well on their

00:23:09.360 way for the deconstruction of our country. And that's the philosophy here. It's deconstructionism.

00:23:14.540 And you've educated your audience brilliantly on this. And I wish more people did exactly what

00:23:19.540 you've done, which you go through the historical roots of this from the Frankfurt school on,

00:23:23.740 which is, it's a deliberate attempt to deconstruct our country from within. And, and the left

00:23:29.420 understands that there are, there, there's the natural rights that we have that are, you know,

00:23:33.920 protected in the, in the bill of rights, but there are three that are really, really important

00:23:38.160 right to expression and right to dialogue, the second amendment and the fourth amendment,

00:23:42.440 those, and the 10th amendment as well, I'd say states rights and not anything that's not listed

00:23:47.000 should be decentralized in nature. The left has a full frontal assault on those four things 0.95

00:23:52.100 in particular, trying to attack our religious expression, trying to take our guns away, trying

00:23:58.080 to erode our personal, our personal privacy and property, and finally to destroy states' rights

00:24:03.120 as we know it. And the left plays a much more patient game than we play. They are much more

00:24:08.100 deliberate and they're okay looking at things in a 50 to a hundred year type type perspective.

00:24:14.800 And, and, and we as conservatives tend not to do that.

00:24:17.740 So Charlie, let me, let me bring this up to you, uh, because you know, history well enough,

00:24:23.120 um, to be able to see this giant arc, but I just did an episode, uh, couple of days ago on

00:24:31.100 the comparison of, of the want to be presidency of Elizabeth Warren to Woodrow Wilson and went

00:24:40.800 through, uh, Philip drew administrator, which was written by Colonel house during the Wilson

00:24:46.400 administration to really kind of say in novel form, what the progressives really wanted.

00:24:52.480 And it's Elizabeth Warren. I mean, they are willing to do a long, long look. They're more

00:24:59.020 Chinese than American in, in their thinking.

00:25:02.580 Totally. And I'll give you another kind of really interesting parallel. Where did Woodrow Wilson come

00:25:07.680 from Princeton university? And he was, he, he was the president of Princeton, Princeton university

00:25:12.820 and then governor of New Jersey. Where's Elizabeth Warren come from Harvard? I mean, 1.00

00:25:17.960 when you're born out of the Academy and you're born, you're kind of a prototype, if you will,

00:25:24.140 of higher education, you will bring that radicalism with you. And Woodrow Wilson was probably one of the

00:25:29.540 most damaging presidents besides FDR and LBJ in the last hundred years of our personal freedoms and

00:25:35.260 liberties that few people talk about, but you actually educated me on this topic through your

00:25:39.780 books and your show seven or eight years ago. Um, when I first started to become aware of the

00:25:44.460 threat of progressivism and the year of 1917, boy, if you look at, um, one year that, you know,

00:25:51.180 eroded our freedoms and liberties almost more than any other, whether it be the creation of the

00:25:55.240 federal income tax or the creation of the federal reserve act. Um, I mean this, this singular

00:26:00.120 individual pioneered more erosion of States rights and individual sovereignty than anyone else. I'm

00:26:06.500 sorry, 1913. It was, if my memory serves me, um, was the revenue act, not 17 was world war one. I

00:26:12.100 stand corrected 1913. Um, but that is a great parallel Glenn. And what does I, if I were to venture a

00:26:18.800 guess, I think the party, the Democrat party is much more likely to nominate Elizabeth Warren than Joe

00:26:24.760 Biden. Elizabeth Warren can kind of be the intersectional candidate that they're looking 1.00

00:26:30.060 for in the sense that she is, she's angry yet. She is thoughtful enough that she'll be able to

00:26:36.740 appease the Democrat suburban voters and the new, new kind of Democrat suburban voters. Um, she's

00:26:43.380 academic enough to appease the New York times oligarchs. And she also has enough populism in her 1.00

00:26:50.800 to be able to kind of channel that Bernie Sanders energy. She's drawing bigger crowds. She's raising

00:26:56.560 a tremendous amount of money. And so, wow, is that a great comparison to you? And it's so funny.

00:27:02.680 You mentioned the Chinese Glenn recently, I said to someone, I said, the left thinks like the Chinese

00:27:08.480 do. They think in terms of centuries and they're okay with multi-decade plans to, in the words of our

00:27:17.440 previous president, fundamentally transform our country. And you look at it, we as conservatives

00:27:23.760 have such a difficult task because we look as if we're anti-progress. But guess what? That's okay

00:27:30.440 sometimes. Some things should not change. In fact, I would make the argument, the more we've changed

00:27:36.900 the family, the nuclear family in our country, the more negative side effects, the more broken 1.00

00:27:41.700 communities that we've actually experienced. And that, that's, that's an argument we have to

00:27:47.020 You have to, you have to change, but you have to, uh, uh, change the things that don't work

00:27:54.080 while leaving the things that do work. That that's, I mean, that's the, the point of being

00:27:59.860 a conservative is to conserve the things that work and are true. We've just come to this place to

00:28:07.080 where we're like, nothing works. Well, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait. Some things work really

00:28:11.940 well. And some things aren't working so well because we've made changes in the past or we failed

00:28:18.900 to make changes in the past. So let's sort these through and conserve the good things. So Charlie,

00:28:25.340 so is Elizabeth Warren, cause I am shocked, shocked. This latest poll, um, shows, uh, me,

00:28:33.280 smoke them one pump, uh, one point away from, uh, Joe Biden. Uh, and I think you're right. I think

00:28:41.100 they are more likely to go with Elizabeth Warren than, than Joe Biden in the end, because she wants

00:28:47.560 to fundamentally transform. I think she is a, another Hillary Clinton that Donald Trump will crush.

00:28:58.080 Do you think so? Or do you think she's the, there's something to her that should concern us?

00:29:05.960 I want to believe that I'm going to, I'm going to come up with a piece soon. And I'm going to talk

00:29:10.860 about this on my, my podcast, Glenn, you might find this interesting. And I, I try to be a contrarian

00:29:16.960 by nature, but I will tell you that just as we learned that there were hidden Trump voters,

00:29:23.060 I believe that there are hidden socialist voters out there too, that have either been voting

00:29:27.940 green party or have not been showing up in the same numbers. Now, are there enough of them

00:29:32.120 to make Elizabeth Warren president? I don't think so, but I, I will kind of throw a little

00:29:38.800 skepticism at some of the conventional wisdom that Trump will win the landslide against Elizabeth

00:29:44.240 Warren. And let me tell you why is ideal mostly on college campuses at turning point USA. And Elizabeth

00:29:51.140 Warren is precisely what college students want in a candidate. She talks about fundamental 0.66

00:29:57.320 transformation. She's unafraid to question the history of the United States and call our history 0.97

00:30:02.520 a mistake. Not that we've made a mistake, but that our country is a mistake. She's, she's unabashed

00:30:08.480 in her promising of free stuff and to have other people pay for her utopian schemes. And I think

00:30:14.120 that younger voters will show up in numbers that we have not seen since 2008. If Elizabeth Warren

00:30:19.940 is the candidate now, I think she would lose unbelievably voters over the age of 50, you know, 0.96

00:30:26.700 people that have actually been around for a couple of decades and had sobriety of life, you know,

00:30:30.880 kind of, you know, that they've lived through, but never underestimate the kind of unpredictability

00:30:38.480 a candidate can cause when younger voters start to show up. And we saw this in 2008. And again,

00:30:44.820 in 2012, it throws off all the voting models, Glenn, if college students voted at the same clip

00:30:50.820 or the same rate as suburban women, Hillary Clinton would be president. And, and award is one of the 1.00

00:30:57.500 few candidates that can do that. Now, I think she would actually have a ton of trouble with black 1.00

00:31:03.380 voters and Latino voters. I think the president could do far better in those particular communities

00:31:09.100 and Republicans traditionally have. But I think that your comparison that Elizabeth Warren is our

00:31:15.700 Woodrow Wilson is spot on. And it's something that needs to be repeated, because she's now going to

00:31:20.800 try to create the new century progressive compact to try to finish the vision of Rousseau and Marx in

00:31:27.500 our country to create us to a very mediocre, alleged egalitarian state, which will never happen. It will

00:31:33.960 just put us in a downward spiral that the progressives have been trying to embark us on over

00:31:39.300 the last hundred years. And we must stop this at every single corner and turn in our activism. And

00:31:44.720 that's what I'm trying to do on college campuses every single day. Charlie, thank you so much. I

00:31:48.720 appreciate it from Turning Point USA, a group that might give you some hope that the millennials are

00:31:56.340 not all crazy. And there are many millennials that are out working hard and are changing their mind when

00:32:03.300 they do hear facts. Charlie Kirk, thank you so much from. Thank you, Glenn. I appreciate it. You bet.

00:32:08.180 TPUSA.com. Turning Point USA. TPUSA.com.

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00:32:39.260 Quickly, Glenn, I've noticed you, I don't know, inspired apparently a major controversy because I

00:32:47.380 listened to this program and heard your monologue on Monday about the Statue of Liberty and the

00:32:53.500 Emma Lazarus poem. Yeah. I think it was actually Tuesday when the green card thing came out on

00:32:59.540 Monday. And there was like, no, what about the tired and poor and huddled masses? Right. So you

00:33:05.340 did this entire monologue about what the poem actually means. And you've done this before.

00:33:10.180 Yeah. As Conservative Review points out today, you did it in your 2010 CPAC keynote speech. Yes.

00:33:15.100 So you've done this. You've been talking about this for a long time. Information's out there,

00:33:18.760 but you did it again this weekend and tied it specifically to the story. Well, I don't know

00:33:22.460 if Ken Cuccinelli listens to the program. He may. But he came out and talked about this as well.

00:33:28.340 Here he is. And this is the controversial part. So to get scared here, because you're about to hear

00:33:33.700 some very nasty words about people that aren't European. Here's Ken Cuccinelli on the Statue of

00:33:39.740 Liberty. What do you think America stands for? Well, of course, that poem was referring back to people

00:33:46.240 coming from Europe where they had class based societies where people were considered wretched

00:33:51.940 if they weren't in the right class. Hmm. That's exactly right. Hmm. No, it's not. Actually,

00:33:59.700 Madeleine Albright sets Ken straight. I'm not sure that when he can say that it's part of American

00:34:05.620 heritage, there have been various periods where Americans have been very generous in our immigration

00:34:11.120 policy. And I do think that this country has benefited by the diversity that has come through

00:34:17.380 immigration. And so I find it one of the most un-American statements I've ever heard. But what?

00:34:23.140 And you pointed out that I have a Statue of Liberty pin on. I think the Statue of Liberty is weeping.

00:34:29.640 It's weeping, Glenn. Really? I don't know if you know this. It's a bronze statue. It can't weep.

00:34:36.860 So let's talk about some facts. I think the Statue of Liberty is weeping. Yeah. If it is,

00:34:44.180 it's because it's being distorted. You can make the Statue of Liberty into whatever you want it to be,

00:34:51.640 but that doesn't change the facts of why it was built and what the damn poem means. First of all, 0.99

00:34:59.880 Madeleine, why was that poem even written? Do you know? Anybody know why? To show that we need

00:35:06.220 free immigration and everyone gets on a welfare program? No. No. It was to buy the, it was to 0.77

00:35:13.540 raise money, buy this poem, and we'll be able to build a stone platform that we can put this stupid 1.00

00:35:21.240 French piece of crap on because they just dumped it in our park. We need to buy a bunch of stuff now 1.00

00:35:28.680 because all parts were not included. So we need to buy stuff. And Emma's like, I'll write a poem.

00:35:35.920 Maybe you can sell that. Okay. It's got to be a really good poem because we got to buy a lot of rocks.

00:35:41.300 That's why the poem was written. So I'm sorry to break it to you, all you anti-capitalists,

00:35:47.140 but that was why that poem was written. The second thing is she was putting the Statue of Liberty

00:35:55.060 into context. What is this brazen giant? Why did France send us this? If it doesn't have anything

00:36:07.260 to do with Europe, explain, keep your storied pomp and ancient lands, cries she with silent lips.

00:36:17.320 Explain that. Which ancient lands? Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame.

00:36:28.080 That's in Europe, I think. I'm pretty sure. Isn't that in Europe? I think Greece is in Europe.

00:36:33.960 I think that's in Europe. Wow. Technically speaking, yes, I believe so.

00:36:38.520 So it's not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, the Statue of Rhodes. It's not like that one.

00:36:48.060 The eighth wonder, one of the eighth wonders of the world. It's then crying out, this one is crying out,

00:36:56.080 keep your ancient lands in storied pomp. Yeah. Where were immigrants generally coming from at this time?

00:37:05.780 And historically, where were the immigrants coming from that built this country? Two lands, Africa.

00:37:16.740 Yes, the Statue of Liberty does address Africans that came here as slaves. That's why there's a chain 1.00

00:37:23.020 broken on her foot and her ankle. A broken chain. The Statue of Liberty. The law that she holds

00:37:32.160 breaks the chains of slavery when properly administered.

00:37:39.620 That's what the chain is. So the second group of people that came in, generally speaking,

00:37:45.720 where did they come from? Oh, Europe. That's what that poem is about. That's what the statue is

00:37:55.760 about. And the worst distortion of it is, oh, give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.

00:38:03.000 Oh, this makes me so angry. That's what they wanted. They wanted to, you know what? We'll take care

00:38:07.860 of the people you won't take care of. Come to us and our government will supply the things that these

00:38:13.200 people need. First of all, the Statue of Liberty was built for what? Oh, because they wanted to give

00:38:21.400 us a great gift. Who gives people a gift like that? Well, at least we know they don't have another

00:38:27.760 one like it. Who gives a gift like that? And if you're going to give a gift, why ship it over and

00:38:35.920 like, hey, and by the way, all the pots are in the box. You're going to put it together. But we made

00:38:42.560 it super easy for you. All the instructions are in French. That's no help. Better than Ikea, but no 0.98

00:38:48.440 help. Yes, but no help. Okay. It wasn't really for us. That statue was made and they raised money,

00:38:57.240 just like the Emma Lazarus poem. Why is the poem? Why was the poem written? Oh, because it wanted to

00:39:02.860 describe him. No, it was to raise money. Why was the Statue of Liberty built? Because there was this

00:39:11.400 guy who had this idea of making a giant, a brazen giant like that of Greek fame that he could sell to

00:39:21.540 Egypt that would stand right where the Panama Canal is. I don't remember exactly, but I think it was in

00:39:31.000 that area. That's what he wanted to do. And Egypt's like, beat it, dirtbag. We don't need your giant 1.00

00:39:37.820 statue. I mean, have you seen how we're living? We don't even have toilets yet. So he leaves, but he

00:39:44.260 wants to build this giant statue. So then he meets with some people in France. Hey, I know you got the

00:39:50.340 Eiffel Tower. What do you think about maybe, uh, what do you think? Huh? Maybe you think maybe, huh? And

00:39:56.380 they're like, no, wait, well, wait a minute, wait a minute. And what's going on at the time?

00:40:05.740 Marxism. Marxism in 1848 in Germany. Wow. German that's German. Oh, well, I love the ideas from

00:40:18.800 Germany. They're all so good. Aren't they? Especially when they come up with new ways to bring government

00:40:25.020 to make it big and powerful. Those are great ideas. In 1840, Marx and Engels, 1848, they print

00:40:32.820 what's called the Communist Manifesto. The Communist Manifesto was an idea to change all of Europe

00:40:42.900 because all of the Europe, they had storied pomp and ancient lands, and they were holding people down

00:40:51.960 because if you didn't have the right name, the right connection, if you weren't a lord or a lady,

00:40:57.260 if you weren't a landowner, you had no rights. You had nothing. And so the communists said,

00:41:03.200 that's not right. Now there was another group of people that said, that's not right. They were called

00:41:09.240 the American founders. And so the people who made the Statue of Liberty and coincidentally,

00:41:17.360 the guy who painted the crossing of the Delaware with George Washington in the boat,

00:41:22.960 you know, the one that we're also famous, you know, the original is not in the Met. That's a copy.

00:41:27.560 The original doesn't exist anymore. It was burned down during World War II. It burned

00:41:34.040 because it was bombed by the Allies, by the, bombed by the Allies. I didn't know that the Met was bombed by

00:41:44.240 the Allies. No, it was in Germany because it was painted for Germans because the painter saw Marx and

00:41:53.520 Engels and went, that's the wrong idea. I'm going to paint a painting that explains what America does 0.71

00:42:01.400 because yes, everybody needs to be in the boat, but America has the right idea. That's why there is

00:42:07.900 a farmer. There is a, there is a, uh, uh, a woodsman in it. Uh, there is a black guy, a native American.

00:42:15.740 There's a woman in that boat, a woman. What? No, America hates women. No, everyone was in the boat. 1.00

00:42:25.840 But that's why that painting was painted. The Statue of Liberty was made for the same reason.

00:42:34.220 They needed to raise money. They used the raising of money as a way to get into people's homes

00:42:40.520 and their hearts and say, have you seen what the Americans have done?

00:42:43.620 Have you seen what they've done? Because we weren't trying to dominate the world. We were just

00:42:49.000 quiet. We just went around and just be like, Hey, we're cool with everybody. We actually didn't

00:42:55.040 have this empire kind of attitude at the time that the progressives brought us. And so what did we do?

00:43:02.620 They needed to get in and tell people the American story. So they said, Hey, they just freed all those 0.60

00:43:07.320 slaves. Wasn't that cool? And they're coming up with their hundred anniversary. We want to give them

00:43:10.800 the statue. Oh, they're going to love it. Yeah. They're going to love it. They got a statue

00:43:15.140 people. Yeah. The huge, huge statue people. Their president's going to be a guy who's going to be

00:43:19.760 like, it's the greatest statue ever. It's coming. It's we're way ahead of the curve.

00:43:25.560 They were doing it to sell the American idea as opposed to Marxism. That's why it was built.

00:43:35.300 The poem was made to be able to sell the, to, to, to sell, to make enough money to buy

00:43:44.300 the platform stones. And, and, you know, look, there's a lot of people on Twitter who don't

00:43:50.840 know that. Right. But the journalists who are all making it seem like, well, what Ken Cuccinelli

00:43:56.600 meant was he only, it only applies to white people from Europe because that is the way they're 0.99

00:44:01.000 characterizing it. They, it's egregious. They know it's a disgraceful mischaracterization

00:44:05.900 of what he's saying. You know exactly what he was saying. And what he was saying specifically

00:44:09.340 was, yeah, we want to take the people that your class system. And he mentions the class

00:44:14.380 system. Yes. Your class system will not allow to achieve anything. Even if they're fantastic,

00:44:18.140 they can be the greatest people and the people who are the highest achievers in your society.

00:44:21.760 But because of your class system, they can never escape where they were born into here. 0.69

00:44:26.080 There isn't that system. So when they were freeing them of that system, not every person

00:44:30.880 who needs help from the government is going to come and get it. That's not what it's about.

00:44:34.240 Keep your storied pomp and your ancient lands cries. She, she is talking to Europe. And then

00:44:42.480 she says, send me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free. Send these 1.00

00:44:52.260 the tempest toss to me. So in other words, what it's saying is you keep people down. You're keeping

00:44:59.900 people homeless. You have all of these rules and regulations and all your storied crap that we 0.99

00:45:07.260 don't have. We don't want. You send us the people that you say can't make it because I'm standing right 0.98

00:45:14.840 here and I'm guarding this door. You notice the statue of Liberty. Her butt is showing to us her face, 0.98

00:45:21.840 her eyes are looking to Europe, guarding from the garbage of Europe saying you sent these people 1.00

00:45:31.860 and said they can't do anything. Well, you know what? One of those people came over here and that's 0.97

00:45:36.980 why I'm holding imprisoned lightning, imprisoned lightning light. It's not Edison. It's Tesla.

00:45:44.180 One of the wretched refuse that came to our shore, built the alternator, the generators that we have

00:45:51.440 in the dam that powers the imprisoned lightning, as it's mentioned in the poem. So please don't get

00:45:57.740 me started on this. If somebody in the media would like to know, oh, I'd love to give them a history

00:46:03.320 lesson on what that poem means, but it is the exact opposite of what they say it is.

00:46:08.600 And by the way, the law at the time it was written, immigration law of the United States

00:46:12.860 said, if when boats are coming over here, ships, immigration ships, if on such examination, 0.93

00:46:18.060 there shall be found among such passengers, any convict, lunatic, idiot, or any person unable 0.91

00:46:24.520 to take care of himself or herself without becoming a public charge, such persons should 0.98

00:46:30.940 not be, should not be permitted to land. Okay. They weren't even able to step foot on land.

00:46:37.360 And you know who had to pay for their return trip? The ship that brought them here. We

00:46:44.500 ain't paying for it. Good luck with that passenger. You shouldn't have put them on the boat in the

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