The Glenn Beck Program - January 10, 2023


Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Christopher Rufo ｜ 1⧸10⧸23


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Glenn and Sarah discuss the disappearance of a young woman in Washington, D.C. and the bizarre case of a man who bought cleaning supplies from a Home Depot wearing a mask and gloves, but forgot to bring his cell phone with him.

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00:00:00.000 I apparently should not be searching for certain things in my laptop.
00:00:06.600 I forgot about that.
00:00:08.020 Yeah, that's a good one to learn.
00:00:10.420 We learned don't search how to get rid of dead bodies.
00:00:15.100 We had Sarah search for us instead, but you don't want to miss a minute of today's show. 0.93
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00:01:54.640 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:01:58.560 You know, sometimes, sometimes you can have too much faith in people.
00:02:06.220 You can think they're just not this stupid, but you're usually disappointed.
00:02:13.380 The husband of the Massachusetts realtor, you know, have you been following this?
00:02:17.940 A little bit.
00:02:18.560 Yeah.
00:02:18.680 Okay.
00:02:18.840 So this guy, Brian Walsh, he was a guy who was selling fake Warhols.
00:02:28.480 He was in trouble with the law.
00:02:30.380 I think he was maybe under house arrest for a while.
00:02:33.360 And his wife got another job.
00:02:36.960 She had to move to Washington, D.C.
00:02:38.960 She came up for the holidays and and then she was called back to Washington and nobody's seen her since.
00:02:46.200 Hmm.
00:02:47.840 Now.
00:02:50.840 There is one thing now they have they have taken him in.
00:02:57.320 He's not been arrested for murder, but they took him in because he he misled the police.
00:03:05.260 He said the only thing I did on the day of her disappearance was go out for ice cream with my kids.
00:03:10.640 Unfortunately for him, he was spotted at Home Depot where noted ice cream purveyor.
00:03:20.860 Yes.
00:03:21.160 Yes.
00:03:22.340 Yes.
00:03:23.420 He you know, he was he was going to Home Depot and he showed up wearing a mask and a hat and gloves.
00:03:34.680 And he bought four hundred and fifty dollars worth of cleaning supplies.
00:03:40.100 And what's weird about this, too, is he got lost, apparently, several times and then lost on his way to his mother's house because he didn't bring his cell phone.
00:03:50.260 So anyway, so he was concerned about cleanliness, cleanliness.
00:03:54.680 We're in the middle of a raging triple demic right now. 0.96
00:03:57.780 Exactly right.
00:03:58.600 Got to wear the gloves.
00:03:59.320 You've got to have the mask.
00:04:00.540 You've got to have the cleaning supplies.
00:04:01.780 Exactly right.
00:04:02.800 So he goes home and he's cleaning up something and he completely forget.
00:04:06.260 Oh, I forgot.
00:04:06.980 I stopped for cleaning supplies.
00:04:08.380 Sure.
00:04:09.540 And so they brought him in for that for misleading police.
00:04:14.260 But there is something else that he did that is kind of curious that you would think.
00:04:20.580 No, no one would.
00:04:22.060 No one would do this.
00:04:23.600 He the day before she disappeared, he Google searched how to dispose of one hundred and fifteen pound human body.
00:04:36.280 A hundred now specifically one hundred and fifteen pounds.
00:04:40.120 Now, I think we should Google search this because I'd like to see.
00:04:44.100 I'm not Googling that.
00:04:45.440 Yeah.
00:04:45.740 Sarah, you Google it.
00:04:46.880 Real quick.
00:04:47.280 Sarah can Google it.
00:04:48.160 Google.
00:04:48.540 Just Google it real quick.
00:04:49.880 Tell us.
00:04:50.440 I'm not Googling it either.
00:04:51.800 I'm pretty sure Sarah's search history goes directly to the feds as it is.
00:04:54.820 So you might as well.
00:04:57.880 So tell us what it says here.
00:05:00.360 I mean, does it give?
00:05:02.520 Does it say like step one, go to Home Depot?
00:05:06.620 Buy cleaning supplies.
00:05:07.820 Don't bring your cell phone.
00:05:11.120 What does it say?
00:05:11.600 Right away, the stories just turn up of the story you're talking about.
00:05:15.820 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:05:17.460 Change it to 120.
00:05:18.700 See if maybe that would help.
00:05:20.860 The weight is not necessarily specific.
00:05:23.020 How about just, you know, dispose of a human body?
00:05:26.540 How to dispose of a human body?
00:05:28.160 See if that.
00:05:29.860 Because I don't think the weight would just be like dig a bigger hole.
00:05:35.160 Right.
00:05:35.520 So I put how to dispose of 120 pound body and scrap metal recycling comes up.
00:05:42.000 Scrap metal recycling?
00:05:43.700 Yeah.
00:05:44.160 Safe handling and disposal of harmful products.
00:05:47.120 Okay.
00:05:47.880 Okay.
00:05:48.140 More recycling.
00:05:49.160 What is the most valuable thing to scrap?
00:05:51.620 But there's nothing on how to get rid of a body.
00:05:53.520 There's nothing to get rid of.
00:05:55.560 But there is.
00:05:56.100 Oh, dead animal disposal.
00:05:57.760 Oh, there you go.
00:05:58.340 Ah, there you go.
00:05:59.280 Dead animal disposal.
00:06:00.320 Now we need to actually contact the feds and say, we think something happened with our
00:06:05.020 producer and a 120 pound person.
00:06:08.900 Has disappeared.
00:06:10.020 We don't even know.
00:06:11.040 We don't know where they are.
00:06:12.240 We don't even know their name.
00:06:13.400 Can you just check their computer?
00:06:14.500 Yeah.
00:06:14.700 I just want to make sure her computer is.
00:06:17.520 And check for scrap metal.
00:06:18.780 Right.
00:06:19.220 Check for scrap metal.
00:06:19.680 Okay.
00:06:20.100 I think like you're, you're, you just go for like, I mean, there's a bunch of movies I
00:06:24.600 can think of.
00:06:25.320 That's the only way I think if I was going to dispose of a, is that the topic he wanted to
00:06:28.820 get into?
00:06:29.240 How did it actually do it?
00:06:30.040 Because I think I would go, you've got a Fargo.
00:06:32.800 You could go the Fargo route.
00:06:33.800 I mean, there's a lot of movies that you can go, but you know, it might also show up on
00:06:39.040 your Netflix history.
00:06:40.500 If you're watching all of these movies where they dispose of bodies, you know, I'm just
00:06:46.100 saying.
00:06:46.980 Which Netflix movies feature disposal of 115 pound female bodies named Joan? 0.99
00:06:54.120 It was in their Netflix search.
00:06:56.820 I don't know.
00:06:58.300 I just, I just like that genre.
00:07:00.600 That's all.
00:07:01.300 Yeah.
00:07:01.540 That's it.
00:07:02.240 Wow.
00:07:02.400 That's really sad though.
00:07:03.500 God.
00:07:04.540 Well, it kind of makes me happy.
00:07:06.160 They're going to, they're going to, they're, they're going to find out who did it.
00:07:09.420 Yeah.
00:07:09.840 At least justice should be served.
00:07:11.560 It wasn't really bright.
00:07:12.640 Oh, this is a good, this would be a good plot to a movie where you commit the murder and
00:07:19.320 then I go into your house, Glenn, and I say, Hey, um, just, uh, you got it.
00:07:24.080 What's your computer like?
00:07:24.960 And then I just go over and start searching terms that would lead them to you.
00:07:28.300 I mean, at some point that's really going to happen.
00:07:31.340 Or here's what we do.
00:07:33.020 Uh, it's the old strangers on a train.
00:07:35.120 We just go out and ask somebody to murder somebody that we want to get rid of and we'll
00:07:42.780 murder somebody that they want to get rid of.
00:07:45.360 So I search how to dispose of a 200 pound body, but nobody in my life that runs 200 pounds
00:07:52.560 has disappeared.
00:07:53.800 Of course, somebody that runs 110 did disappear, but I could say, I didn't search for that.
00:07:59.720 I was searching for 200 pound bodies, guys.
00:08:02.740 I mean, that would be an interesting, an interesting conversation.
00:08:06.220 And he'll search for 110 and the person missing in his life, 200.
00:08:13.260 You're just trading the murders.
00:08:14.760 Yes, that's all we're doing.
00:08:16.600 Okay.
00:08:17.000 Let me give you something, uh, that I think is absolutely amazing.
00:08:21.920 Uh, it's an 11 year old boy, uh, named Jude Kofi.
00:08:27.660 And he was spotted from this local, um, uh, television, uh, story on local news.
00:08:36.560 His dad is from, uh, where are they from?
00:08:42.260 Well, the story has it in.
00:08:43.540 They're from like the Sudan. 0.99
00:08:45.040 I think they live in Colorado and this kid, he's autistic.
00:08:51.300 And he went down to the basement where there was an old piano.
00:08:54.760 He had never had any lessons or anything else.
00:08:57.700 And, uh, all of a sudden dad's hearing a piano playing downstairs.
00:09:03.120 And he's like, what the heck is he goes down and his kid is playing the piano.
00:09:07.360 No lessons, no lessons plays the piano.
00:09:11.960 You're going to hear in this clip, him playing the piano.
00:09:15.120 No lessons.
00:09:16.600 This is just him, this autistic kid playing the piano.
00:09:22.380 Somebody sees it on TV.
00:09:24.620 If you've wondered where are all the good people, uh, listen to this.
00:09:30.380 To 11-year-old Jude Kofi of Aurora, Colorado, this surprise was music to his eyes.
00:09:38.720 Woo-hoo! 1.00
00:09:40.400 Obviously, whoever said the best things come in small packages was never gifted a grand piano.
00:09:46.280 Yeah!
00:09:47.580 Jude's father, Isaiah.
00:09:49.460 So one day it just shows up at the house?
00:09:51.520 Yes.
00:09:52.720 All for free.
00:09:54.340 Who does that?
00:09:55.940 The answer in a moment.
00:09:57.240 Moses.
00:09:57.780 But first, the reason.
00:10:00.640 About a year and a half ago, Jude's dad heard a noise coming from the basement.
00:10:05.300 There was an old keyboard down there.
00:10:07.380 But no one knew how to play it.
00:10:09.120 Certainly not his autistic son, Jude. 0.96
00:10:12.100 Or so he thought.
00:10:14.220 Isaiah then got Jude a larger keyboard to see what more he could do.
00:10:18.460 And boy, could he do.
00:10:21.840 The kid never had a lesson.
00:10:26.540 No one taught him any of this.
00:10:30.600 How do you explain that you're as good as you are?
00:10:34.880 It's a miracle.
00:10:36.220 You think it's a miracle?
00:10:37.560 That's what I prefer.
00:10:39.700 Bill Magnusson prefers that too.
00:10:42.500 Is he special?
00:10:43.600 He's beyond special.
00:10:45.260 He's Mozart level.
00:10:46.940 He's coming from somewhere beyond.
00:10:48.840 Bill is a piano tuner.
00:10:53.100 He saw a local news story about Jude.
00:10:55.620 Heard him play.
00:10:56.720 Learned how his parents immigrated from Ghana.
00:10:59.180 How they're raising four children.
00:11:00.960 And sending money back to Ghana.
00:11:03.820 What resources are left over to help this special little soul?
00:11:07.600 Bill.
00:11:10.180 Yours.
00:11:13.020 Yeah.
00:11:14.580 Using an inheritance from his father, Bill bought the piano.
00:11:19.700 Spent $15,000.
00:11:23.140 He has promised to tune it once a month for the rest of his life.
00:11:26.760 Very nice.
00:11:27.440 And he's even paying for Jude to get professional lessons.
00:11:32.400 We're family now.
00:11:34.400 Somebody to just love your son like that by making sure that his future is secured.
00:11:40.600 We are super thankful.
00:11:43.140 Yeah.
00:11:44.540 Press the pedal.
00:11:45.700 Caring for other children as your own.
00:11:48.060 The defining note of humanity.
00:11:52.400 Isn't that amazing?
00:11:53.820 Isn't that amazing?
00:11:55.060 Really cool.
00:11:55.980 That is, I mean, I just think that is one of the greatest stories I've heard in a while.
00:12:04.720 Chill, listen to the words to this.
00:12:06.480 It's one of my favorite bands out of California.
00:12:13.780 What if all they lost was all they had?
00:12:21.760 What if they were broken just looking for a hand?
00:12:27.520 If you could help or walk away?
00:12:31.020 If that choice was up to you, what would you do?
00:12:36.480 What if they were you?
00:12:40.140 Where did all the good people go?
00:12:45.940 Where did all the good people go?
00:12:51.940 I keep looking around.
00:12:55.520 I don't quite feel like I belong.
00:12:58.680 Where did all the good people go?
00:13:02.860 There's a group called Poor Man's Poison.
00:13:05.780 They live in the farmlands of California.
00:13:09.120 I just love their music.
00:13:10.860 Very American sounding.
00:13:13.560 And their messages are really just great.
00:13:17.320 What if all you gave was all you had?
00:13:24.460 What if you were humble, just holding out your hand?
00:13:30.320 What if kindness prevailed and you were someone's second chance?
00:13:36.240 Just giving back.
00:13:37.820 We keep asking ourselves, at least I do, where are they?
00:13:48.040 Where are all the...
00:13:48.820 They're everywhere.
00:13:51.100 They're everywhere.
00:13:52.740 We don't see them because they don't generally make the news.
00:13:58.160 But all the good people, that's you.
00:14:00.260 That's me.
00:14:00.780 The people who are looking for a second chance at life, that have the ability to do something.
00:14:07.780 That guy was a tuner of pianos.
00:14:11.000 His father had just died.
00:14:13.020 He inherited money.
00:14:15.240 And he saw that story and he thought, this kid has got to have lessons in a piano.
00:14:20.640 So he takes his inheritance from his father, buys the piano, says that he's going to tune
00:14:27.940 it every month for the rest of his life, and he's helping him get piano lessons.
00:14:34.280 So where did all the good people go?
00:14:41.000 So where did all the good people go?
00:14:45.200 I keep looking, I know I don't quite feel like I belong.
00:14:51.200 So where did all the good people go?
00:14:57.580 Where did all the good people go?
00:15:01.840 I just want to bring you the news today that the good people are here.
00:15:07.040 We're surrounded by them.
00:15:08.920 We're surrounded by people.
00:15:10.960 The problem is there's not enough examples that we see, and we should start looking for
00:15:16.780 them.
00:15:17.460 We should start sharing those stories, and we should start recognizing that we've been
00:15:24.120 given the opportunity, whatever it is, whatever it is.
00:15:28.380 I wouldn't have thought to get this kid a piano.
00:15:31.240 I'm not a piano tuner.
00:15:34.500 But he did, because that's his gift.
00:15:38.320 You are the good people.
00:15:41.020 Where have you gone?
00:15:42.660 Nowhere.
00:15:44.300 Just maybe a quick reminder to wake up and see the ways that you can help all around you.
00:15:51.520 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:16:01.720 All right.
00:16:02.300 I want to show you the guardians of history.
00:16:05.900 Things are so bad with our history right now.
00:16:09.580 Things are being taken down, and things are being put up that are absolutely inaccurate.
00:16:13.480 The latest is the Wall of Remembrance, the Wall of Remembrance for the Korean War.
00:16:21.500 If you've been to Washington, D.C., it's a lot like the Vietnam Wall, but this is for the 1.00
00:16:26.580 Korean War, and this is really a cool memorial.
00:16:29.200 It has these soldiers, these statues of these soldiers going through kind of like a Korean 0.89
00:16:35.880 forest, if you will.
00:16:37.700 Well, they decided that they wanted to put a wall up with all the names.
00:16:42.040 $22 million this cost us.
00:16:45.380 And I don't know, is it one or two decades to get this done?
00:16:49.380 When it was first proposed that, hey, we like the soldiers, let's put up a wall, the 0.82
00:16:54.420 Parks Department said, no wall, no wall, we don't want names, we don't want it.
00:16:58.280 Why?
00:16:59.260 Because when the Vietnam War wall went up, there were names that were missing.
00:17:03.540 Some of them, somebody has to make the decision on who is actually a Vietnam War veteran.
00:17:11.560 For instance, one of the examples was a nurse.
00:17:14.020 She's flying over to go to Vietnam, but she's not engaged in Vietnam yet.
00:17:19.540 Her plane crashes in Europe.
00:17:21.840 Should her name go on the wall?
00:17:24.120 Some people would say, well, yeah, she was enlisted.
00:17:26.900 She was on her way.
00:17:28.040 Others would say, no, that wasn't combat.
00:17:29.500 That was in Europe.
00:17:31.240 And it had nothing to do with the military.
00:17:33.240 This must be an impossible task.
00:17:35.060 Impossible.
00:17:35.260 That's why the Parks Department said, we don't want anything to do with a wall.
00:17:39.200 We've already learned our lesson.
00:17:41.320 We've seen this movie before.
00:17:42.700 Correct.
00:17:43.000 Yeah.
00:17:43.560 Congress didn't care.
00:17:45.920 Congress said, no, no, this is great.
00:17:48.340 We're going to put them all.
00:17:49.060 The Parks Department said, okay, if you do that, we want it in the bill that it is the
00:17:55.400 Pentagon that makes the list.
00:17:58.080 We have nothing to do with it.
00:18:00.780 Okay.
00:18:01.580 So they were so adamant about it that it was written that the Pentagon is the one and the
00:18:07.740 Pentagon could not take any outside advisor counsel.
00:18:11.820 Okay.
00:18:12.480 Let's just think about this for a second.
00:18:14.160 The Pentagon has to look through 56,000 names that they said died in the Korean War, but
00:18:20.640 there were only 36,000.
00:18:22.240 So they have it wrong in the first place.
00:18:25.480 Okay.
00:18:26.020 They went with that one for about 20 years.
00:18:28.740 And then they were like, oh, whoops.
00:18:30.260 I guess there's some other people there that died that really weren't even there.
00:18:33.460 Had nothing to do with it.
00:18:34.580 They got it down to 36,000 names.
00:18:36.580 They couldn't take any outside advice.
00:18:39.380 So they've got a couple of problems with the wall now.
00:18:43.020 Um, uh, in fact, about 1500 problems.
00:18:47.000 Uh, there are people that were, were there that were not listed people that weren't there
00:18:53.500 that are listed.
00:18:54.840 Uh, I like this one.
00:18:56.360 Frederick bald Eagle bear.
00:18:57.960 He's an army corporal who was killed as he rallied his infantry squad to fend off an enemy
00:19:04.140 attack.
00:19:04.920 He's part of the Lakota tribe.
00:19:06.760 Well, because the Pentagon's records were all on, uh, cards, you know, computer cards that
00:19:15.000 I don't even know if you have the computer to use it anymore and could not, um, could not
00:19:20.380 use hyphenated names, the guy who is called Frederick bald Eagle bear, he's listed, uh, as
00:19:29.520 Eagle BF bald, not good, not good.
00:19:35.020 Eagle BF bald.
00:19:36.400 Yeah.
00:19:36.900 Yeah.
00:19:37.380 Not, uh, not good.
00:19:38.640 Also, I, I might want to point out that there's some other people that, uh, you know, they have
00:19:45.060 their name up there.
00:19:46.160 Um, and they, well, one of the guys was killed in a motorcycle accident in Hawaii.
00:19:53.560 Another guy who drank antifreeze thinking it was alcohol.
00:19:58.300 And another guy who, um, lived for 60 years after the Korean war had eight grandchildren.
00:20:03.740 He didn't die in a war at all.
00:20:05.160 His name is up on a wall.
00:20:07.440 $22 million.
00:20:09.860 They now say the whole thing has to be taken down and redone.
00:20:14.260 Wait, they can't.
00:20:15.360 Hmm.
00:20:15.640 They can't correct.
00:20:16.720 There's no way to correct some putty in there.
00:20:18.860 Yeah.
00:20:19.420 White out.
00:20:20.040 Uh, yeah, no, it's, uh, it's not good.
00:20:22.380 The whole story is in my morning briefing.
00:20:24.480 You can get it at glenbeck.com.
00:20:25.960 It's an amazing story in its entirety.
00:20:29.160 Um, but this is our history is under attack from so many angles.
00:20:35.500 This one just sheer incompetence.
00:20:38.520 You want to give the government the keys to truth and history.
00:20:45.380 Really?
00:20:45.980 Cause they're not doing a really good job here.
00:20:49.080 Their own department, the department of war, the department of defense, the ones that keeps all the records.
00:20:55.920 They, they, uh, we don't, nope.
00:20:58.780 Have no idea who these people are.
00:21:03.240 Now, let me tell you a good step, but it's going to need your support.
00:21:08.100 But Friday, Ron DeSantis began a process of transforming Sarasota's new college of Florida into a little more conservative.
00:21:22.400 Now, this is a progressive college.
00:21:25.140 It's been floundering for years, but it is a, it's the new college, like the new school in New York.
00:21:31.920 It's a progressive college that's been teaching garbage forever and struggling.
00:21:38.140 So because it's a state school, the governor said, well, it's floundering.
00:21:43.560 We could shut it down or we could reform it.
00:21:46.140 You know what?
00:21:47.020 Let's reform it.
00:21:47.880 So he appointed, uh, six new board members and they're a little more conservative.
00:21:56.000 Uh, the Dean at Hillsdale college is one of them.
00:22:01.120 A senior fellow at the Claremont Institute is another one.
00:22:05.560 And Christopher Ruffo is also on the board of directors.
00:22:10.580 Christopher is going to be joining us in about an hour.
00:22:13.420 So Christopher Ruffo, who is he?
00:22:15.600 He, he's the activist that has been exposing everything that all the poison that is in our schools.
00:22:23.600 They hate him.
00:22:24.980 They hate him.
00:22:28.180 You have to hang on that H that long to describe how much they hate him.
00:22:32.660 They hate him.
00:22:34.580 Okay.
00:22:35.600 So here's what, uh, the Florida education commissioner said.
00:22:38.680 It's our hope that new college of Florida will become Florida's classical college more along the lines of a his Hillsdale of the South.
00:22:48.300 Oh, they hate all of these people.
00:22:53.300 Turning new college into a Florida version of Hillsdale is flipping the entire thing upside down.
00:23:00.720 And DeSantis has just said, it is time to take, uh, charge of our schools.
00:23:08.640 Our schools are completely out of control and it is time to take them back.
00:23:15.240 A man.
00:23:16.860 How many governors have the balls to do this there? 0.51
00:23:22.780 You know, I said this to you last week in Florida, there are signs that come up and I think they may be coming from the administration.
00:23:30.920 I don't know, but it says the free state of Florida.
00:23:34.640 And when you listen to DeSantis talk, he talks about always the free state of Florida.
00:23:41.080 Amen.
00:23:42.840 That should be a goal for all of us.
00:23:46.100 Why are we not the free state of Texas?
00:23:49.440 We are relatively much more free than places up north, but we're not the free state of Texas.
00:23:57.980 We should all be striving and pushing our governors and our legislatures to pass things that make us free men and women unencumbered by this nonsense that is being jammed down everyone's throat.
00:24:19.460 So here's what I, here's what I want you to do.
00:24:23.960 I want you to read up on this.
00:24:25.880 You can find the story.
00:24:27.500 Just look for, uh, Sarasota's new college.
00:24:31.440 Okay.
00:24:31.960 You can get the story at glenbeck.com or just look for Sarasota's new college, Florida's new college, and support this in every way you can.
00:24:40.680 They are going to be coming with switchblades and automatic guns.
00:24:47.640 They are going to be, it won't be a 22.
00:24:50.920 They'll be coming with proverbial 45 caliber, uh, weapons to this fight, and it will have an endless, what do they call it?
00:25:01.800 Clip of ammunition.
00:25:05.700 Uh, so we need to be prepared to stand up and, uh, fight back, but that is fight back the right way.
00:25:14.940 You know that I was earlier, I was reading to you the, um, uh, Thomas pain, American crisis.
00:25:21.980 And in it, he says, in fact, I want to read it to you exactly in it.
00:25:26.440 He says, I have as little superstition in me as any man living, but my secret opinion has ever been and still is that God almighty will not give up a people to military destruction or to leave them unsupported to perish.
00:25:45.700 Here's the important part who have so earnestly and so repeatedly sought to avoid the calamities of war by every decent method, which wisdom could invent.
00:25:59.820 Neither have I so much the infidel in me as to suppose that he has relinquished the government of the world and given us up to the care of devils. 0.80
00:26:10.700 And as I do not, I cannot see on what grounds the king of Britain can look up to heaven and ask for help.
00:26:17.500 I cannot imagine how the progressive movement that is pushing the slaughter of innocence can look up and say, Lord, help us.
00:26:29.840 Knowing that as Lincoln said, God is not on our side.
00:26:38.240 He doesn't pick sides.
00:26:40.480 He wants all of his children to be redeemed and rescued.
00:26:44.260 So they are in error, I believe, but God does not want them slaughtered.
00:26:52.500 God does not.
00:26:53.740 He wants peace and love and understanding, and we must do everything we can.
00:26:59.840 To remain peaceful, kind, loving, doing all of the things that we can in our power, and he will pick up the slack.
00:27:09.460 But if we don't, if we are conniving or anything else, he cannot bless us.
00:27:17.780 So, do everything in your power and not one thing more.
00:27:24.680 Florida, Ron DeSantis announced on Friday, is taking back education, and he is changing the board of regents for the new college of Florida,
00:27:48.360 Florida, which is a progressive university that's been floundering in lies for a while.
00:27:52.340 Did I say that out loud?
00:27:54.420 And so the dean of Hillsdale is now part of the board of regents.
00:28:01.460 Christopher Rufo is also a part of that.
00:28:05.100 You might know who Christopher Rufo is.
00:28:07.920 He has been the guy who has relentlessly been exposing DEI and CRT and you name it.
00:28:18.440 He has been the linchpin and leading force against all of that.
00:28:26.000 He joins us now, Christopher Rufo, a known Nazi supporter.
00:28:32.300 I'm sorry, with some more research, I and the Washington Post would like to retract that last statement as being utterly false.
00:28:39.900 Christopher, how are you?
00:28:41.640 I'm doing very well.
00:28:42.820 How are you?
00:28:43.400 Good.
00:28:43.640 I can't keep up with all the retractions.
00:28:45.700 You just got another one from the Washington Post, and who else, Stu?
00:28:49.100 Jonathan Shade as well.
00:28:50.280 Chris, can you walk us through the litany?
00:28:52.040 Yeah, so this is something that just keeps happening, and even in the last 48 hours, I've gotten a major retraction from the Washington Post.
00:29:00.520 They wrote this ridiculous hit piece against me about my appointment to the board of trustees at New College.
00:29:06.240 The editors admitted to me and then had to retract four false statements, and there was only four paragraphs in the story that were about me.
00:29:13.980 So they were actually one false, one complete brazen lie per paragraph.
00:29:19.220 And then the following day, which was yesterday, I spent all day hounding Jonathan Shade from the New York magazine, and he, too, ended up retracting a completely false statement.
00:29:31.460 He made up a quotation, attributed it to me, and then I said, well, where did I say this?
00:29:36.680 He couldn't prove it, had to retract it.
00:29:38.700 But here's the thing, Glenn, both of these publications have done the exact same thing twice.
00:29:45.460 Last year, the Washington Post had to retract multiple false statements about my reporting on critical race theory.
00:29:51.560 Also last year, Jonathan Shade, the same author, made up a quotation that he attributed to me that was totally false, had to retract it.
00:29:58.860 I'm starting to think that these things aren't a coincidence.
00:30:01.960 What do you think, Glenn?
00:30:02.720 Well, I don't go too far out on a limb on that.
00:30:06.260 You know, they know, the press knows, they can say anything and retract, and the retraction doesn't matter.
00:30:12.060 The charge is out there, and the print is out there, and it's online, and it'll be forever online, and that will be the part that is passed around about you.
00:30:21.620 I mean, we are dealing with really nefarious powers at work that know exactly how to smear and discredit people.
00:30:30.680 So let me go, let me take you to Florida here.
00:30:34.840 How did this unfold with New College, and what exactly are you trying to do, and the governor trying to do, with education in Florida?
00:30:46.700 So New College is Florida's smallest public university.
00:30:50.300 It's on the beach, actually, in Sarasota, a beautiful location.
00:30:54.000 But it's had struggles for years.
00:30:56.000 It's failed to meet recruitment targets.
00:30:58.140 It's at about half capacity.
00:30:59.560 They can't get students in.
00:31:01.760 They accept almost anyone, but very few students choose to enroll in the college.
00:31:06.380 They've had this kind of broken culture for a number of years in which even, you know, professors and staff members are kind of at odds with the students who are a very kind of left-wing progressive activist.
00:31:19.720 It's almost like Evergreen State out in Washington State that famously imploded a number of years ago.
00:31:25.440 And the Florida legislature in recent years has considered actually just abolishing the college, totally defunding it, and transferring its assets elsewhere in the system.
00:31:34.140 But Governor DeSantis had a kind of bold and dramatic alternative.
00:31:38.160 He said, let's bring in a new board of directors.
00:31:41.800 Let's get some really smart people that have the kind of strength that's required to do a reform effort.
00:31:46.980 And let's turn it around 180 and transform New College, this fledgling, struggling public university, into what they're calling the Hillsdale of the South.
00:31:55.700 So a classical institution of learning, of higher education, and that is our task.
00:32:00.720 It is a big vision.
00:32:02.360 It's not going to be easy, but I think all of us on the board of trustees are excited to make it happen and to show conservatives.
00:32:09.680 It's time to stop ceding territory.
00:32:12.920 Thank you.
00:32:13.220 It's time to actually start taking back territory.
00:32:15.460 Thank you.
00:32:16.040 And it starts here with New College.
00:32:17.180 I will tell you, Christopher, the biggest mistake we made was ceding the colleges and just saying, you know what, when they get out into the real world, no, they're out in the real world now.
00:32:28.660 And they've changed the real world into this fantasy gobbledygook that they got from these universities.
00:32:35.160 We have got to start taking them back.
00:32:37.900 I have two kids ready to go to college.
00:32:40.440 I don't know where to send them.
00:32:41.800 And I'm terrified of sending them any, but one of them wants to be an actress.
00:32:48.140 Good Lord, I've done everything I can.
00:32:50.100 I prayed on my knees for days on end.
00:32:52.820 Please make that wish go away.
00:32:55.000 She's really good.
00:32:56.040 She wants to do it.
00:32:56.900 I can't send her into, you know, the lion's den.
00:33:02.200 We need to take back education.
00:33:08.300 Absolutely.
00:33:09.120 But I think that I'm maybe a bit more optimistic.
00:33:11.380 I think there are really two key strategies that people need to adopt.
00:33:15.020 First is you have to make your own kids as strong as possible so they can actually go into the lion's den.
00:33:21.200 You know, when my kids turn 18, I have three kids at home.
00:33:23.800 And I want to feel confident that wherever they go, they're going to have their own principles.
00:33:28.760 They're going to have their integrity.
00:33:30.020 They're going to have the strength and sophistication to navigate those environments.
00:33:33.980 But, of course, the kind of even maybe more important solution in the larger sense is for us to create alternatives in education.
00:33:42.560 And, look, we need to create alternatives in K through 12.
00:33:45.920 We need charter schools.
00:33:47.160 We need universal school choice.
00:33:49.540 So, vouchers.
00:33:50.240 So, parents can start their own home schools or religious schools.
00:33:53.400 Whatever they want to do matches their values.
00:33:55.900 And then higher education, you know, has been really kind of ceded to the left since the mid to late 1960s.
00:34:03.200 That's when everything turned.
00:34:04.620 Yeah.
00:34:04.740 And, look, conservatives have not figured out how to do it.
00:34:08.560 I think that the problem, what I'm observing as I'm talking to people and navigating this new enterprise is that the adults are scared of the kids, you know, really and truly.
00:34:18.820 They're scared of the students.
00:34:21.140 They're scared of the media.
00:34:22.200 They're scared of all the, you know, laptop people, you know, typing away at the New York Times.
00:34:27.500 You've got to get over that.
00:34:28.660 It's like you have to get over that.
00:34:30.660 And I think that what we want to demonstrate with this is that we have the strength, we have the courage, we have the backbone.
00:34:37.020 We're going to hang very tough.
00:34:39.220 We're going to make a better university.
00:34:41.800 It's going to be more competitive.
00:34:43.320 It's going to be more rigorous.
00:34:44.560 It's going to have higher quality academic offerings.
00:34:47.680 And I think that what we've seen with Hillsdale College, where I've been fortunate enough to teach a course recently, is that the American families are hungry for this kind of education.
00:34:57.780 They are.
00:34:57.900 They want that classical liberal arts education.
00:35:01.020 They want students to kind of fall in love with learning.
00:35:04.120 And they don't want to have this poisonous left wing ideology and left wing bureaucracy drenching everything in their way.
00:35:11.480 I don't want my kids to be taught what to think.
00:35:15.380 I want my kids to be taught how to think.
00:35:18.460 You know what I mean?
00:35:19.040 How to find the answers.
00:35:20.820 How to question.
00:35:21.920 How to reason.
00:35:23.360 That's what I want a university to do.
00:35:25.300 And that's what they should be doing, pushing you in every different direction.
00:35:29.860 So you see that, you know, you should question everything and know how to question and know how to prove something using critical thinking.
00:35:41.360 But that's not what we're getting from our universities.
00:35:43.900 So how are you because this is a very progressive school.
00:35:49.640 How are the professors and everybody else taking it at the school?
00:35:53.800 Do you know?
00:35:54.780 Are you going to just shut it down and then rehire?
00:35:58.480 You know, the students, of course, are very rambunctious.
00:36:03.820 They're in a kind of agitated mode.
00:36:05.880 They're ready to protest and ready to make their voices heard.
00:36:09.800 I like that.
00:36:11.020 I think that's healthy.
00:36:12.020 I'm excited to engage with them as I go to visit the college in the coming weeks.
00:36:16.940 But, you know, what I've heard behind the scenes is that professors are chattering, that this is actually a very good opportunity.
00:36:24.720 You know, a lot of people don't like what's happening in universities, people who are in science and math departments that are more apolitical, people who are kind of in the political moderate section.
00:36:36.460 They don't like what's happening just as much as we as the conservatives don't like what's happening.
00:36:41.460 But they're not strong enough to create a defense for themselves.
00:36:44.400 So they just give up.
00:36:46.040 We're going to create that space for people.
00:36:48.160 And I've looked at the CVs for a lot of the faculty at New College.
00:36:52.040 I've done an analysis, actually, of all the full-time faculty.
00:36:55.240 There are some incredible scholars there, people who are substantive.
00:36:59.600 They have Ivy League university degrees.
00:37:01.740 They've written on the classics, Greek, Latin, history, political science, an incredible math department.
00:37:07.660 And so there is a very, very strong core of faculty and staff that are absolutely ready for this change.
00:37:16.140 I think they're going to, you know, once they kind of put down the New York Times and have a chance to talk to us, new board of trustees in person, I think they're going to be reassured that we're going to create a better university.
00:37:29.460 There are going to be hard changes.
00:37:30.640 We're going to restructure it.
00:37:31.680 We're going to bring in a totally new curriculum.
00:37:33.280 We're going to be abolishing the DEI programming immediately.
00:37:38.500 But after those changes, after that period of tumult and conflict, I think it's going to be a great place.
00:37:45.180 And hopefully when your kids are approaching 18, you'll consider sending them to New College.
00:37:49.380 So, Christopher, I'm just sitting here listening to you and seeing the opportunity and the impact that you have made.
00:37:57.000 And it's kind of it's fun to watch you, because when I first reached out to you, I reached out to you as the contributing editor of City Journal to talk to us about what was happening in Seattle.
00:38:09.220 And you were just at the beginning of all of this.
00:38:11.500 And and now look at the impact that you have made and the impact that you're going to make.
00:38:20.640 And this is just really the beginning.
00:38:22.960 How do you do you ever think about like, holy cow?
00:38:27.520 I mean, I took something on that should have been deadly.
00:38:30.720 Everybody probably told you, don't don't do that.
00:38:33.320 And look at that.
00:38:34.760 Look what's happened.
00:38:37.260 Yeah, it is.
00:38:38.400 You know, I appreciate that.
00:38:39.520 And it's been fun that we've been able to check in really since the beginning through this whole process.
00:38:43.820 And it's been really fun.
00:38:45.660 And I've learned a lot of lessons.
00:38:48.000 As you know, it's sometimes challenging.
00:38:51.700 It's difficult.
00:38:52.960 But I love it.
00:38:54.680 I wake up every day excited about what I'm doing.
00:38:57.020 I wake up every day optimistic about the possibilities.
00:38:59.440 And then I've been able to do something that I didn't plan on, but it's been really fruitful.
00:39:04.800 I've been able to connect my ideas, my policy work, my journalism, my activism with people like Governor Ron DeSantis, who have said, hey, this is a good vision.
00:39:15.060 Let's let this guy loose and and see if we can actually use these ideas.
00:39:19.500 And so I'm really kind of blessed and fortunate and feel very lucky to have able to not just sit in a think tank, you know, in New York City writing white papers, but actually say, hey, look, you know, let's use these ideas.
00:39:31.920 We believe in them enough to actually do them.
00:39:34.200 And I think that's the key thing.
00:39:35.660 It's like I believe in this enough where I actually want to do it.
00:39:38.700 I want to stake my my own take up take a risk with my own time and reputation, because I think at the end of the day, we're fighting for something that most people want.
00:39:51.820 But really, most people feel there are a few champions for.
00:39:55.720 And I'm trying to do that.
00:39:56.660 I'm trying to serve that purpose for people.
00:39:58.220 Christopher, I know I'm sure that we've asked you before, but I would love to do a do at least an hour podcast with you, because I think you are fascinating.
00:40:08.880 You are really somebody who is is changing things.
00:40:12.280 You're not just talking about it.
00:40:13.500 You are actually changing things.
00:40:16.680 And I would like to discuss in greater detail what the what the challenges are ahead and also where you get the I feel good in the morning.
00:40:28.220 Where you get the bright spots in education, because there's a lot to move.
00:40:32.640 So we'd love to we'd love to have you on as a podcast.
00:40:36.020 Thank you so much.
00:40:36.780 Let's do it.
00:40:37.440 Let's do it.
00:40:38.000 You got it.
00:40:38.760 Christopher Rufo, contributing editor, City Journal, senior fellow, the Manhattan Institute, and now on the new board of regents for New College of Florida, because Ron DeSantis is taking on education in a big way now in Florida.
00:40:58.740 What is my governor doing?
00:41:00.760 What are other governors doing?
00:41:03.400 It's a really good plan.
00:41:04.860 I mean, you can steal it.
00:41:08.520 I mean, I'm sure he would give it to you.
00:41:10.140 You just steal this plan and do it in your own state.
00:41:12.560 I understand.
00:41:12.820 You just say it.
00:41:13.100 Na, Na, Na, Na.
00:41:15.360 Oh, yeah.
00:41:16.600 Let's do it.
00:41:17.120 Let's do it.
00:41:17.260 Let's do it.
00:41:17.500 Let's do it.
00:41:18.260 Let's do it.
00:41:19.240 Let's do it.
00:41:19.340 Let's do it.
00:41:20.240 Let's do it.
00:41:21.280 Let's do it.
00:41:21.400 Let's do it.
00:41:21.680 Let's do it.
00:41:21.820 Let's do it.
00:41:22.300 Let's do it.
00:41:23.000 Let's do it.
00:41:23.800 Let's do it.
00:41:24.480 Let's do it.
00:41:25.300 Let's do it.
00:41:25.600 Let's do it.
00:41:26.440 Let's do it.
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00:41:27.520 Let's do it.
00:41:28.620 Let's do it.
00:41:29.100 Let's do it.
00:41:30.320 Let's do it.
00:41:31.260 Let's do it.
00:41:32.340 Let's go.
00:41:32.420 Let's do it.
00:41:33.440 Let's do it.