The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guest： Christopher Rufo

00:00:00.000 and it's a beautiful day for baseball uh welcome to the uh podcast stew yes the highlight today

00:00:07.680 from the podcast that you would you'd have to say was the best play that you saw the best play oh

00:00:13.180 um well i thought it was uh early on uh as the uh that incredible palmist from uh yeah from joe

00:00:20.700 biden i have to tell you that i there we had a psychic on uh you know we told you about the uh

00:00:26.620 joe biden dog psychic uh and we we found them and we realized what this woman actually does and she

00:00:35.080 had a a stunning prediction for early on in the biden administration should he uh actually become

00:00:42.200 president of the united states we talk about james o'keefe uh we talked about net neutrality a bit in

00:00:48.160 the fcc and where freedom is going we also had vernon jones remember he's the guy uh who is the

00:00:55.720 democrat that has stood up against his own party in georgia wow he had a lot to say to republicans

00:01:04.280 that needs to be heard kevin freeman from the economic war room uh stopped by to talk about

00:01:10.080 the economy also about the vote and just a really compelling half hour with christopher ruffo

00:01:19.160 talking about what does it mean now if donald trump does leave office what's going to happen with

00:01:26.060 critical race theory and all of these government institutions now teaching that all on today's

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00:01:44.120 did you see the testimony yesterday um i think this is uh klein cut two

00:01:55.960 listen to this this is a testimony of a truck driver oh yeah uh compelling right that was picking up

00:02:03.760 ballots listen i arrived at about the same time every day the expediter scans all my seals and barcodes

00:02:14.060 and they they unload me but for the first time or but or what but from the time i first arrived in

00:02:22.400 harrisburg from beth page everything got weird none of that happened after waiting six hours i went

00:02:30.020 inside to figure out what's going on i was told to wait for the transportation supervisor this was

00:02:38.040 also weird 16 months i've been doing this i haven't ever talked to the transportation supervisor for

00:02:43.680 united states postal service i talked to an expediter i come in i see an expediter that's who i deal with

00:02:49.740 if i have an issue it's the expediter i don't deal with anyone else but the expediter

00:02:53.200 i never never talk to the united states postal services transportation supervisor let's make that

00:03:02.160 clear i have my own transportation supervisor for the company that i work for he's the one that gives

00:03:08.740 me the details he's the one that i listen to i don't listen to this guy he's the guy that would

00:03:13.320 contact my boss if he needs something ran different i like that i've never spoken with this transportation

00:03:21.300 supervisor from the united states postal service they don't speak to people like me he's a top guy

00:03:28.000 he's the kind of guy that would speak to my boss not a trucker like me the supervisor told me to drive

00:03:35.940 to told me to drive to lancaster without being unloaded in harrisburg this made no sense to me

00:03:43.940 i knew the ballots were loaded for harrisburg and that if i was to go to lancaster they would have to

00:03:53.400 off unload my ballot or those pallets in lancaster to take off lancaster stuff to put the ballots back

00:04:00.460 on the trailer to send up back to harrisburg which didn't happen by the way right the whole thing

00:04:07.300 disappeared right it was yeah it was something like 140 000 or 170 000 ballots yeah it was i mean

00:04:13.580 it's not like he was just delivering 20 pieces of mail it was hundreds of thousands of votes and

00:04:20.160 they're gone yeah nobody's nobody's nobody's found that truck nobody found i mean and he seems

00:04:26.200 credible he doesn't seem like he's a gop operative or anything else he seems like a truck driver he

00:04:32.360 seems like a regular guy yeah sure and i'd like to know i mean if we have a trucker that is listening

00:04:37.120 tell me about the transportation supervisor is he right about that i mean i'm sure i'm sure in his

00:04:43.220 own experience he is uh he certainly sounded yeah i'd like to know what what what do they do

00:04:48.460 exactly i don't i don't know i i don't know why i don't know what the significance necessarily

00:04:54.180 was of the postal guy coming and talking to him yeah i i other than he had to wait six hours and

00:05:01.440 couldn't offload it and that's the guy who had to tell him go take him someplace else

00:05:05.780 yeah i mean is it uh do we i mean he's kind of just alleging weirdness right like this is weird

00:05:13.540 well it was weird that his payload disappeared yeah too i mean that's more than weird that's like

00:05:20.040 criminal that's federal offense right when people are stealing mail off your off a mail truck that's

00:05:26.000 that's a a crime so there's one other case that is now going up to the supreme court i think and

00:05:33.060 they're going to try try to try it donald trump's people are trying to try it the the supreme court

00:05:39.640 of pennsylvania said they're not willing to overturn the will of the people and so they wouldn't even

00:05:46.840 talk about this they just dismiss this but they're taking up to the uh to the court now the guys who

00:05:53.040 were on the um philadelphia court uh or the pennsylvania court was a republican and maybe two

00:06:01.060 republicans and a uh democrat i think uh they were no no no it was a it was a bush guy and two trump

00:06:10.300 uh people appointees right and they said that they won't they won't try this case and and the case is

00:06:16.820 that some of the counties allowed you to reconcile these ballots hearing so they would cure the ballots

00:06:25.720 uh and the other counties wouldn't and so you either have to cure them all or toss those ballots out

00:06:34.480 it's not enough to uh overturn the election uh at least we don't think but it is a constitutional

00:06:42.600 question because yeah those voters were treated differently which is what 13 14th amendment um

00:06:50.920 where you have to have equal standing yeah equal standing for everybody yeah and when to use the

00:06:56.840 excuse that we're not going to overturn the will of the people if there was fraud there

00:07:00.520 it's not it's not the will of the people so what are you talking about well they're not alleging

00:07:04.720 fraud in that case right they're saying that particular case but the the secretary of state

00:07:08.500 came and said you can have basically it was a constitutional item they left it open to the

00:07:13.860 local people to right if they wanted to have people curing their ballots or not some counties did

00:07:18.420 it some counties didn't and the the case is that well they all should have been able to do it

00:07:23.120 it's i don't know if the right first of all there's not a lot of people that cure ballots it's a very

00:07:27.520 it's a very rare thing uh it's not particularly widespread like 12 000 or 20 000 something like

00:07:32.660 that um across the entire state state um but you know i don't know if the right thing to do would

00:07:38.700 be to throw out all every vote you know i wouldn't either i wouldn't think that's it's what i mean it

00:07:44.320 is but you know this is we have to be very careful on what we're doing the one thing that's not going

00:07:51.180 to happen is after all of this is solved we go in and we get rid of these voting machines and we get

00:07:56.960 something that is using like blockchain or something that's never going to happen uh we're never going

00:08:02.840 to get rid of the the ballots that are just sent out by states that's never going to happen and those

00:08:08.940 are the things that should happen even if biden wins biden should be the guy saying look we we have

00:08:16.140 got to have some federal standards states run this but we have to have some federal standards you know

00:08:23.320 when it says one side is going to overlook it means they're side by side okay you can't put them

00:08:29.660 you know into the nosebleed seats they have to be side by side and be able to discuss the ballots

00:08:35.120 as they're going you know we should put some safeguards in here so you don't have even the

00:08:39.900 question anymore yeah it's so tough i mean i sometimes like we had barry laudermilk on from

00:08:47.480 georgia and i was actually amazed about how many checks we did have i yeah i was surprised because

00:08:53.020 they he was describing the system that he helped implement in georgia which was to have uh when you

00:08:59.840 vote you get a paper ballot spit out that says your vote on it you check it yourself that's what we do

00:09:05.520 here right yeah so like it's uh and that's like i think there's a lot of layers of that that i didn't

00:09:11.200 i didn't know and then and they they point out like in pennsylvania these you know the dominion voting

00:09:16.380 machines were not in philadelphia or pittsburgh they were in 14 counties and trump won those

00:09:21.660 counties 52 of the vote um so it's it's tough because it's just if to talk about stuff that

00:09:27.880 would overturn the entire election is you'd have to find something really really widespread on this

00:09:32.140 sort of sydney powell scale where giuliani some of the stuff he's brought up has real evidence and

00:09:36.820 witnesses and things like that but it's hard to find the scale it's a difficult question and the

00:09:40.740 timeline is is working against these guys so you have december 9th yeah december 9th is the last

00:09:45.920 and that's a week from today yeah right the december 14th is when the electors actually

00:09:50.820 select yeah but it's the summer 9th is when they lock it all in right yeah they lock the electors

00:09:55.200 in so you got a week do they rip the knob off too yeah lock it in lock it in rip the knob off the

00:10:01.180 election's over uh by the way i asked to hear from truckers uh about the testimony that was given

00:10:06.920 yesterday uh by a uh by a guy is saying that the transportation supervisor at the post office

00:10:14.080 he had to wait for this guy and he said truckers don't do that let me talk to charles you're in a

00:10:19.540 you're a truck driver and you're you're on the road now yes i i am pulled over so i can talk to you okay

00:10:25.320 um i have delivered mail and i'm going to tell you you do not speak to a supervisor he is absolutely

00:10:32.380 correct you go in you speak to a guy behind the desk the expediter and the unloaders unload their mail

00:10:39.500 they're not allowed to touch anybody else's mail and i'm going to tell you the post office is one of

00:10:46.020 the most strict places you have you will ever go you have to have what's called the bill of lading

00:10:52.720 on your bill of lading you will have what is going to each particular stop you're going to

00:10:58.820 if they do not take that they have to sign it refused and then you can go on

00:11:05.420 if this was not done there is major major major major oh my god wrong stuff going on so why would

00:11:15.140 i don't think that that happened he was just told to take it someplace else no you can't do that

00:11:21.020 it's their mail they have to take it or refuse it if they if they refuse it then he's got to get

00:11:28.600 with his company and then get instructions from his company the post office cannot tell you to go

00:11:35.520 and deliver their mail to somewhere else it doesn't work that way so this part of this would have been

00:11:43.680 uh marked for harrisburg and so when he stopped in harrisburg they should have just taken theirs but

00:11:49.700 instead they said yeah take theirs to another post office and that would be another bill that would be

00:11:57.600 another charge that would be a whole nother load huh doesn't work that way all right thank you your

00:12:04.660 shipper your receiver cannot at all make that decision for you okay thank you so much i appreciate

00:12:11.260 it stay safe charles uh i will tell you this one i i don't know but these are the kinds of things

00:12:19.720 that the media should be reporting and these are the kinds of things that americans should find the

00:12:26.600 answers to quickly because if we have this happening we have to know it and correct it i found this this

00:12:35.440 witness very credible yesterday very very credible i don't know what it all means but we should look

00:12:42.500 into it you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:12:48.880 you know i i i buy a lot of stuff through auction for mercury one uh and for the history collection

00:13:03.740 so i'm on all of these auction you know mailing list and i just got one from heritage auctions

00:13:10.860 uh for purses now these are not specialty these aren't like owned by jackie o or something like that

00:13:17.980 these are just purses and they are uh relatively new gently used not by famous people and some of them

00:13:28.120 are eighty thousand dollars for an hermes purse does hermes the actual god come with the purse

00:13:37.180 what the hell is that all about i mean i could justify crazy spending like nobody's business

00:13:44.120 i cannot i can't i honestly i'm looking for an what is it with this magic purse that makes them

00:13:51.720 between 20 and 80 000 a piece a purse what

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00:14:05.800 you are the guy who has done so much work on exposing critical race theory

00:14:19.780 um and and showing it in our own government which is really uh the shadow government kind of stuff

00:14:28.040 that you would never think that the government officials are teaching other government employees

00:14:33.660 that america is bad and systematically racist but that's exactly what's happening

00:14:40.060 uh donald trump did a lot to stop all of that when he found out it's all going back in isn't it

00:14:46.740 yeah that's that's what they're saying there's a document that circulated from a consulting firm

00:14:52.820 that was mapping out the potential biden administration's first hundred days

00:14:56.180 and the executive order banning critical race theory unfortunately was one of the first things

00:15:00.740 they're going to get rid of uh should he become president what does that mean

00:15:05.380 well i mean there's still a bit of debate you know it's uh it's a it's a very uh stressful period and

00:15:13.500 um i i always want to get all of the facts all the information um i to me personally it looks like

00:15:20.400 uh biden will become president it looks like he won uh but i'm always leaving a room open for

00:15:25.600 new facts and new evidence but what does it mean if our government now no longer is even hiding it

00:15:33.120 uh and you have an administration that is as radical as some of these people are in this administration

00:15:40.500 i think they make i think they make the obama administration look really kind of calm uh quite

00:15:46.780 frankly in the things that they could do but introducing critical race theory not only in the

00:15:53.500 government agencies but the janet yellen said that she is going to make the uh goal one of the goals

00:16:01.580 of the uh treasury department to be about equity to make sure that you know we have everybody is even

00:16:09.840 and everybody is getting a piece of this yeah and you know the treasury department is probably the

00:16:16.640 most ideologically charged agency which was a huge surprise to me but i have sources within the

00:16:22.240 treasury department that say uh there is an agency the office of women and minority inclusion

00:16:27.040 that bombards treasury employees on a daily basis with critical race theory propaganda

00:16:32.680 they're always hosting events including with former uh fellow travelers of the communist party that

00:16:39.060 denounced the united states during official treasury department events so um these activists that

00:16:47.060 in the 1960s were in the streets on the outside kind of pummeling the institutions

00:16:52.420 that they believed were too conservative uh fast forward 50 years and the same kind of people the

00:16:58.900 same ideas that were the counterculture are now in charge of our institutions and in charge of the

00:17:04.180 federal bureaucracy in particular uh it's a dangerous time and a dangerous moment and i think we have to

00:17:10.240 be one of the first uh societies in history to have a government uh that funds uh activists uh that hate the

00:17:19.320 government hate the state and hate the nation i talked to some people over in london a couple of weeks

00:17:24.620 ago and they said because i've always thought london was crazy england was crazy france was even more

00:17:30.520 crazy and uh they were talking to me about the reality on the ground over there and saying you

00:17:37.180 guys are way ahead of us you're you are you're leading the world in some of this craziness now

00:17:43.280 yeah we absolutely are no i i think what you've seen in in england and france uh and other european

00:17:50.800 countries is there's been a kind of populist right that has been able to uh take power uh to win votes

00:17:57.420 and then to exercise power uh in a way that would marginalize the opponents and marginalize the most

00:18:02.720 extreme elements and uh you see this uh throughout europe and i i think you know looking back to the

00:18:08.900 last four years uh trump's presidency i think uh unfortunately was a bit late to the game i think

00:18:16.300 these things were kind of hiding in the shadows uh were kind of sneaking around um and he didn't have

00:18:23.080 the time or wherewithal to really uh put his foot down and i think that any future republican

00:18:28.640 administration one of the first things they have to do is uh do a top to bottom a top to bottom audit

00:18:34.580 of all federal programs of all uh federal research grants and get rid of anything that is anti-american

00:18:42.440 in nature uh the president is the chief executive and and frankly should have the the freedom and and

00:18:49.940 flexibility to say we don't agree with these values we're shutting it down well it would be you would

00:18:56.860 seem part of the oath to protect and defend uh the constitution from any uh enemies foreign or domestic

00:19:04.520 but i don't think they interpret it that way uh anymore unfortunately i don't even know if they

00:19:09.600 even actually mean the words or think about the words when they're saying them you said uh media

00:19:14.760 political class street riders spent the last year ratcheting up social tensions uh you went on to say

00:19:20.040 the ballots are still being counted but joe biden is already declaring he has a mandate on systematic

00:19:24.880 racism and aoc is creating a list of people to purge from public life scratch a progressive find a

00:19:31.660 totalitarian time to push back christopher what do you mean time to push back how does the average

00:19:39.160 person do that you know you have to you have to stand up and speak out and and the thing is is

00:19:45.180 with all of these programs all of these kind of hyper progressive uh race-based justice programs

00:19:51.720 uh it's not just being fought in washington dc it's not just being fought in national elections

00:19:56.980 these things have permeated almost every school district and local government in the country

00:20:02.020 especially in the urban centers and it's up to people to find out what's happening in their local

00:20:07.620 school districts and their local government their county governments and actually organize and push

00:20:12.400 back to publicize information give documents to the press raise a raise a stink uh in public meetings

00:20:19.680 because uh this is really a fight and the left unfortunately is you know pete buddha judge's

00:20:26.720 old campaign staff established a website and a database to uh to track every trump supporter

00:20:32.840 every trump attorney every trump administration official and they're going to go around and try

00:20:38.700 to blacklist them from polite society from jobs from professorships um conservatives are really being

00:20:45.120 marginalized and the left um only understands one thing the left understands power it's part of their

00:20:51.220 theory uh in critical race theory for example they reduce all kind of positive values uh to a kind of

00:20:58.300 camouflage for naked power so uh this isn't something we can debate intellectually we actually have to

00:21:04.400 create a ballast or a counterweight uh that can push back in a form of organized power because

00:21:10.900 that's the only thing is that that's going to stop them do you think you're on that list

00:21:16.600 uh yeah i probably am on the list you know uh but uh i have uh fortunately uh great great supporters

00:21:24.680 uh great employers and uh you know i'm a man of the political right so this comes with the territory

00:21:30.800 it doesn't actually bother me to be on that kind of list um but i i think i think of a lot of people

00:21:36.500 that i that i know who are corporate employees or tech employees or or or even just uh you know average

00:21:43.940 citizens that are terrified to speak out i mean if you are a conservative republican um just voicing your

00:21:51.560 opinion right now uh is a kind of dangerous act and i i feel for all those people and i try to be

00:21:58.100 a voice for them and try to give them courage uh to stand up for what they believe in so the only time

00:22:03.880 i've experienced that is when i worked at cnn uh i have been blessed enough to work uh in companies that

00:22:10.740 you know supported both sides and since 2000 i've owned my own company so you know what am i going to do

00:22:17.060 uh out myself as some sort of hate monger um but i i can't imagine what it is is like to work in some

00:22:25.940 of these companies and it is only going to get worse with the treasury department now saying uh you know

00:22:31.920 the boardrooms have to have this certain kind of makeup etc etc they are not going on merit they are

00:22:39.480 going on gender and race uh and you know the average person i know a good friend of mine is an

00:22:46.080 architect and he said he was listening to these that you know his company come out with all these

00:22:50.340 things he didn't say anything the guy next to him didn't say anything because they would have been

00:22:56.080 you know fired but so what do they do do you just lose your job well one thing that i'm going to be

00:23:03.340 working on uh this coming year is uh to actually find some uh to establish some case law so i'm working

00:23:10.220 with some legal partners to try to find a case uh uh in corporate or in or in the government uh any

00:23:16.720 kind of employer to establish that a lot of these things are not only kind of distasteful and wrong

00:23:21.960 but they're actually illegal they're actually a violation of title seven of the civil rights act

00:23:26.300 which is kind of offering demeaning stereotypes of people based on race or sex so i think one thing we

00:23:33.980 can do in the next uh year or two is uh create a disincentive for companies to do this and you

00:23:40.080 could say hey this is now actually a legal risk uh doing this could actually be a violation of the law

00:23:45.880 and i think corporations are not doing this out of any great conviction they're doing this essentially

00:23:50.820 as an insurance policy uh to prevent activists from lambasting them as racist capitalist overlords

00:23:58.100 they're appeasing the activist left on cultural matters to protect their economic interests

00:24:03.200 uh on financial matters and and i think what we have to do is really now raise the cost of doing

00:24:09.880 this because right now they pay no cost for telling you know half or two-thirds of their employees that

00:24:15.440 they're internalized white supremacists right um but if we can establish and win a case uh to to

00:24:21.760 establish new case law that this is actually illegal i i think that will change the game and

00:24:26.760 corporations quite uh quite rapidly are you familiar with the great reset i i am you know that i've

00:24:34.340 seen the memes yeah i'm familiar with the great reset uh it is uh you know when you look at their

00:24:40.100 own words and even the words of john carrey who just last week told the economic forum that

00:24:44.800 you know as climate czar he is going to be able to really move this forward and and they asked uh if it

00:24:51.800 was if they were expecting too much from a biden administration on the great reset

00:24:55.900 and he said no it's definitely going to happen at a larger scale and more breathtaking than most

00:25:01.600 people really understand that that is uh that's a little frightening because yeah it is and i think

00:25:09.920 it really underscores the extreme importance of winning those two georgia senate races um because

00:25:16.360 if we can create a kind of a kind of safety valve or a kind of preventer um in the senate i think that

00:25:24.920 will go a long way uh towards kind of crushing any large scale changes but i mean they're always

00:25:31.180 going to hammer away at this stuff and they believe in it um a lot of these folks and and you know i

00:25:36.980 went to the you know the the schools and and and palled around with some of these folks uh earlier in my

00:25:42.460 life you know they're more comfortable in kind of international uh elite education events than they are

00:25:51.120 than they would be in youngstown ohio or memphis tennessee or stockton california and i think a lot

00:25:56.820 of it is they really have a just a limited understanding of how americans live uh what

00:26:01.880 americans value um and how life is outside of some kind of prestige global cities so i think these

00:26:10.240 things you know everyone is talking a big game during a new administration but i think as these plans

00:26:15.960 are exposed to the public as details come forward you're going to see americans putting their foot

00:26:21.380 down and say we don't want this this isn't consonant with our values uh and it has to stop

00:26:26.760 christopher ruffo thank you so much i'm glad to hear your wife is doing better is she over covid now

00:26:31.980 oh thank you so much yeah she had a she had a hell of a battle with covid and was in the hospital but

00:26:37.500 now she's home and and doing a lot better and uh hopes to get back to uh normal life in the next

00:26:43.300 couple days good thank you chris i appreciate it thanks glenn god bless

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