The Glenn Beck Program - December 11, 2019


Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Col. Carlyle 'Smitty' Harris ｜ 12⧸11⧸19


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

152.19836

Word Count

8,211

Sentence Count

732

Misogynist Sentences

13

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Time Magazine has a blockbuster interview with one of the principals and he says all those people that were testifying got it wrong. And I have no problem with my memory. This is absolutely stunning. Also, the Man of the Year is not just a person of the year, it s a kid. And we talk about that as well. And the IG report, how devastating it is for the Obama administration, the DOJ, and how President Trump is the smartest guy around.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast for today. It's Wednesday. We got a good one for you.
00:00:05.800 I mean, we go from pigeons wearing cowboy hats out in the wild.
00:00:13.440 Not making that up. Nobody knows how the hats are getting on them, but they're wearing little teeny miniature cowboy hats.
00:00:19.800 Uh, we go from, we go from that today to Time Magazine pretty much debunking half of the testimony that happened in the house.
00:00:30.880 When they all said, no, I told, I told them. Really?
00:00:34.640 Because Time Magazine has a blockbuster interview with one of the principals and he says all those people that were testifying got it wrong.
00:00:45.380 And I have no problem with my memory. I don't know what happened.
00:00:49.140 This is absolutely stunning.
00:00:52.320 Also, the man of the year is not just a person of the year. It's a kid of the year.
00:00:59.380 And we talk about that as well.
00:01:01.880 And the IG report, how devastating it is for the Obama administration, the DOJ, and how President Trump, because he's so good looking, so handsome,
00:01:11.980 has the best words, is the smartest guy around, knows how to do it.
00:01:16.640 If that man shows up and really does this trial in the Senate right, I mean, who knows?
00:01:24.540 Lincoln? Washington? Teddy Roosevelt?
00:01:28.320 I mean, we'll have to carve his face on Mount Rushmore.
00:01:31.940 And I'll explain why on today's podcast.
00:01:41.540 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:01:45.680 I want to give you some amazing news and ask you why you haven't heard this everywhere.
00:01:56.280 I want to read this story from Time Magazine.
00:02:00.100 Time.com came out yesterday afternoon.
00:02:02.500 Since the start of the public impeachment hearings in Congress last month,
00:02:09.220 Andrew Yermak, a top advisor to the president of the Ukraine, has heard his name come up again and again in witness testimony.
00:02:18.580 He took part in many of the events at the center of the impeachment inquiry.
00:02:24.280 I want you to listen to that.
00:02:25.280 His name has come up again and again.
00:02:28.820 In fact, his name is mentioned in the impeachment inquiry dozens of times.
00:02:33.900 He was at many of the events that were quoting at the center of the impeachment inquiry.
00:02:42.720 And a 300-page report last week by the inquiry mentions Yermak by name dozens of times.
00:02:51.460 But in his first interview about those public hearings, Yermak has questioned the recollections of,
00:02:59.260 this is Time Magazine, of crucial witnesses into the impeachment inquiry into Donald Trump's alleged abuse of his office for political gain.
00:03:10.120 So the guy who is at the center of the events that make the impeachment inquiry,
00:03:20.480 the guy who is quoted, the guy who is, they say, all of them said, oh, no, he was there.
00:03:30.140 He's now saying, I don't think the witnesses remember this correctly.
00:03:36.940 Yermak told Time Magazine in an interview on December 4th,
00:03:40.020 Listen, I want to tell you straight.
00:03:43.500 Of course, now, when I watch these shows on television, my name often comes up.
00:03:48.300 And I see people there whom I recognize, whom I have met, and whom I know.
00:03:54.780 He says, referring to the witness testimony.
00:03:57.980 That is their personal opinion, especially the positions they expressed while under oath.
00:04:04.780 But I have my own truth.
00:04:07.380 I know what I know.
00:04:10.840 The most crucial point at which Yermak's recollection contradicts the testimony of the inquiry's witnesses relates to a meeting in Warsaw on September 1st,
00:04:21.060 when Ukrainian President Zelensky met with Vice President Mike Pence.
00:04:25.660 You remember this?
00:04:26.820 The story is that they were meeting, and all of a sudden, Mike Pence just ended the meeting quickly, and they walked out.
00:04:35.460 And the ambassadors, they all had to quarter Mr. Yermak and say, I am sorry for that.
00:04:42.520 I don't know.
00:04:43.160 I mean, look, you just have to do what the president says, or you're not going to get any of this aid.
00:04:49.720 That's what the witnesses said.
00:04:51.260 This was the only time that we have anybody saying quid pro quo.
00:05:00.160 Most crucial point is his recollection that contradicts the testimony of the inquiry's witnesses.
00:05:06.120 The meeting was part of an ongoing effort by the Zelensky administration to improve ties with the Trump administration.
00:05:12.760 One of the American diplomats who attended that meeting, Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union,
00:05:20.480 testified before the inquiry last month that he, quote, pulled Yermak aside after the meeting and delivered an important message.
00:05:30.380 U.S. aid to Ukraine would probably not resume until Zelensky's government announced two investigations
00:05:37.460 that could implicate President Trump's political revivals.
00:05:42.760 Quote, I told Mr. Yermak that I believed that the resumption of the U.S. aid would likely not occur
00:05:50.460 until Ukraine took some kind of action on the public statement that we had been discussing for many weeks.
00:05:57.820 End quote.
00:05:59.960 That's the testimony.
00:06:02.700 Now let's see what Mr. Yermak says.
00:06:06.220 This statement was allegedly intended to announce two investigations,
00:06:09.880 one into the discredited claims that Ukraine helped Hillary Clinton's campaign.
00:06:14.580 Notice this is not a friendly article to Donald Trump.
00:06:18.580 Notice they say the discredited claims that Ukraine helped Hillary Clinton's campaign.
00:06:23.900 And another related to the work that Hunter Biden, the son of the presidential candidate Joe Biden,
00:06:29.480 did for Ukrainian gas company Burisma Holdings.
00:06:32.040 Based on testimony from Sondland and other witnesses,
00:06:35.520 the final report from the House Intelligence Committee concluded last week
00:06:39.960 that Sondland made this offer of a quid pro quo clear to Yermak that day in Warsaw.
00:06:48.240 Following, quoting, following that meeting,
00:06:50.940 Ambassador Sondland pulled aside President Zelensky's advisor, Mr. Yermak,
00:06:55.500 to explain that the hold on security assistance was conditioned on public announcement
00:07:01.360 of the Burisma Biden and 2016 election interference investigations, quoting the report.
00:07:08.580 Yermak, however, according to Time magazine, disputes this.
00:07:15.600 Quote, Gordon and I, the ambassador from the U.S., were never alone together,
00:07:21.680 he said when Time magazine asked about the Warsaw meeting.
00:07:24.400 Quote, we bumped into each other in the hallway next to the escalator as I was walking out.
00:07:31.260 He recalls that several members of the American and Ukrainian delegation were also nearby,
00:07:36.620 as well as bodyguards and hotel staff,
00:07:39.720 though he was not sure whether any of them heard his brief conversation with Sondland.
00:07:44.980 And I remember everything, quoting Yermak,
00:07:48.700 and I remember everything.
00:07:51.840 Everything is fine with my memory.
00:07:54.400 We talked about how well the meeting went.
00:07:57.700 And that's all we talked about, Yermak says.
00:08:00.560 Stu, help me out here.
00:08:05.660 That's kind of a big deal, don't you think?
00:08:07.240 I think so, yeah.
00:08:09.000 I mean, they even say these comments cast doubt on an important moment in the impeachment inquiry's reconstruction of events,
00:08:14.400 specifically the only known point at which the American official directly tells the Ukrainians
00:08:19.440 about the link between U.S. aid and the announcement of specific investigations.
00:08:22.700 They have said the whole time, we didn't know this.
00:08:26.000 We didn't.
00:08:26.760 They didn't say that this was tied together.
00:08:28.760 And Sondland, remember, changed his testimony.
00:08:32.620 He changed his testimony.
00:08:34.620 Yeah.
00:08:34.800 And that's when he said, OK, I did tell Yermak this.
00:08:39.160 And that was the only thing that the impeachment inquiry could hang their hat on as someone who was firsthand doing it.
00:08:47.660 It was Sondland.
00:08:48.740 Now, Yermak says, and I think this is really important, and I remember everything.
00:08:58.440 Everything is fine with my memory.
00:09:01.360 We talked about how well the meeting went, and that's all we talked about, end quote.
00:09:07.960 In a statement, Sondland's lawyer said Ambassador Sondland stands by his prior testimony.
00:09:12.760 I'm not sure which one that was and will not comment further.
00:09:16.240 In his initial testimony to the impeachment inquiry in October, Sondland said he never knew the U.S. aid in Ukraine was conditional on the investigations that Trump wanted.
00:09:26.140 But the following month, Sondland amended his testimony with a sworn statement in which he described the conversation with Yermak in Warsaw.
00:09:34.720 Oh, now I recall speaking individually with Mr. Yermak, where I said the resumption of aid would likely not occur, and we had been discussing that for many weeks.
00:09:43.220 So was he lying the first time, or was he lying the second time?
00:09:49.440 And this is not a rhetorical question now.
00:09:52.740 This is perjury.
00:09:54.860 Because the guy who he said he talked to says, there's nothing wrong with my memory.
00:10:02.280 I never had that conversation.
00:10:04.600 Well, one of them's lying.
00:10:05.620 I mean, it could also be the guy from Ukraine, undoubtedly.
00:10:08.880 And, you know, there's an argument, and they make it in this story, that it makes sense.
00:10:15.320 You know, they're still dependent on the U.S. for funding.
00:10:19.120 I mean, the same thing that would have made them do this in the first place, which was to please Trump and to get the funding, could make them do this this time.
00:10:26.280 However, we don't have evidence of that, and it certainly brings up a massive question.
00:10:29.980 And, you know, if, let's just say, you came up with this idea to impeach a president and actually did an investigation and did a legitimate inquiry instead of the crap that they did the last couple of weeks,
00:10:41.180 maybe they'd be able to sort this out.
00:10:43.540 Instead, they're just jumping to it and assuming the worst in every single circumstance to get their political ends.
00:10:47.960 So I thought about that.
00:10:49.180 I thought, okay, well, so what they're doing is they're relying on aid, blah, blah, blah.
00:10:52.840 We're just a few months away from an election, okay?
00:10:58.960 If you thought that Donald Trump was going to be impeached and removed from office, you would shut your mouth.
00:11:09.080 You would not start taking this case apart.
00:11:12.500 You just shut your mouth because I need aid.
00:11:14.820 So best case scenario is he's making this up because he's seen what the case is and sees this case is going nowhere.
00:11:26.200 He's not going anywhere.
00:11:27.980 And beyond that, the Democrats are so weak they will not win in the next election.
00:11:35.220 Otherwise, you just shut your mouth until someone asks you in an authoritarian position.
00:11:41.660 Yeah, why do an interview with Time magazine about it?
00:11:43.520 Why do it?
00:11:43.940 Why do it?
00:11:45.260 You are undermining the Democrats.
00:11:48.200 Yeah, I mean, and you just don't do that unless you know who's going to win or you think you know.
00:11:55.740 Yeah, I mean, we did see this with some of these officials who said things on both sides of it.
00:12:00.760 But, I mean, this is a, this is pretty, pretty damning.
00:12:04.240 I mean, like, how do you go through an impeachment inquiry without knowing this?
00:12:07.720 How has this come out after you've issued articles of impeachment?
00:12:11.720 Think of how pathetic that is.
00:12:13.160 This is a guy in the center of the story.
00:12:15.580 The one, as they point out in time, the one point of contact that would actually illustrate that there was a quid pro quo for financial aid.
00:12:24.340 And they have, they even talked to the guy?
00:12:26.600 And they didn't even talk to him.
00:12:28.080 And look, here's Yermak.
00:12:29.640 Now listen to this.
00:12:31.440 When Time asked him whether he ever felt there was a connection between U.S. military aid and the request for investigations, Yermak was adamant.
00:12:39.860 We never had that feeling, he said.
00:12:44.180 We had a clear understanding that the aid has been frozen.
00:12:51.040 We honestly said, okay, that's bad.
00:12:53.820 What's going on here?
00:12:55.100 We were told they were going to figure it out.
00:12:57.020 And after a certain amount of time, the aid was unfrozen.
00:13:00.380 We did not have the feeling that this aid was connected at all to any one specific issue.
00:13:06.720 I think that's totally reasonable and goes completely with everything except what Sondland said as he changed his testimony.
00:13:21.720 It goes completely with everything that we hear from everyone, including Sondland, until he updated a month later his own testimony to say, oh, I, oh, yeah, I did do that.
00:13:33.660 Now, they're saying that it's absolutely reasonable that Sondland, I mean, that Yermak would say this because of, you know, politics.
00:13:45.480 They need America.
00:13:46.660 But you don't do that unless you think they're not going to impeach this president, remove him from office, and he's not going to lose the next election.
00:13:56.160 So if you take the Democratic point of view on this, it makes no sense unless the president's going to steamroll the Democrats.
00:14:07.080 You just stay quiet.
00:14:09.140 Don't make it any worse for yourself.
00:14:12.140 You know, just play.
00:14:13.300 We didn't say anything.
00:14:14.420 So if President Trump is removed from office or the next president comes in and it's a Democrat, you can say, we didn't pick sides on this.
00:14:22.820 We could have, but we didn't.
00:14:24.560 We didn't pick sides.
00:14:25.800 They're picking sides.
00:14:27.040 This is Zelensky.
00:14:28.880 This is his number two guy.
00:14:30.540 So this is the president of Ukraine picking sides.
00:14:34.920 That should tell you something.
00:14:37.660 That should tell you something.
00:14:39.160 Now, you can accept that as, well, Ukrainians are just doing this for their own personal gain because they have pressure points.
00:14:49.020 Why is it unreasonable to look at Sondland and say, well, he testified the exact opposite way and then he suddenly remembered something.
00:14:58.780 What was his pressure point?
00:15:02.620 What happened in that month in between?
00:15:05.540 Was there anything, any calculation, or did he just wake up one morning and go, oh, you know what?
00:15:11.140 I completely forgot.
00:15:13.580 That doesn't sound reasonable to me.
00:15:18.140 The best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:15:26.580 Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.
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00:15:37.920 Hello.
00:15:39.280 Welcome to the program.
00:15:40.400 We're going to have an intellectual discussion about who the person of the year is and all of the glory that this individual brings now, person of the year.
00:15:51.180 Time magazine looked at everyone.
00:15:53.500 They, according to the BBC, looked at people who made a real impact in people's lives.
00:16:00.280 And when I ask you that, think of this right now.
00:16:02.940 Who made a real impact in your life?
00:16:06.580 Who was it?
00:16:08.420 Globally.
00:16:09.320 Who changed your life this year?
00:16:11.020 Who made the impact that you had this?
00:16:13.320 If this year had to be summed up, it would be summed up with this name.
00:16:17.480 Who would it be?
00:16:19.360 Who would it be?
00:16:20.740 Now, I can't honestly think of anybody except Jesus and my family that truly impacted my life.
00:16:31.700 They truly impacted my life.
00:16:34.440 Now, you go out of that, and I think about the business people who I work with.
00:16:40.080 Stu.
00:16:41.020 He's made my life a living hell this year.
00:16:43.640 But I've impacted your life.
00:16:44.540 But you impacted it like a car wreck, like a T-bone car wreck.
00:16:48.280 Right.
00:16:48.500 That would impact your life.
00:16:49.080 It would impact, right.
00:16:51.260 So you look at, but you have to go to the global scale, or at least to the national scale.
00:16:59.100 Who really impacted your life?
00:17:02.220 Who sums up this year?
00:17:04.200 Oh, I think it's clear.
00:17:06.620 I mean, I think it's clear.
00:17:08.640 Go ahead.
00:17:09.400 We know what a problem climate change is.
00:17:13.240 It's the massive, the biggest moral challenge and scientific challenge of our time.
00:17:18.960 And if you don't think so, how dare you?
00:17:22.640 Greta Thunberg is our time person of the year.
00:17:26.180 And as we were all discussing climate change and how we're all going to die miserable, horrible deaths from either drowning or fiery death of some sort, starvation or too much food.
00:17:39.180 Not enough CO2, too much CO2.
00:17:42.240 All those things are in our future in about nine years now.
00:17:47.260 According to Dame Emma Thompson, she said just last weekend, as we all know, your house pet has a lot of protein in it.
00:17:57.100 And you should remember that because soon, very soon, perhaps we will all be forced to eat our pets.
00:18:04.320 That's just how bad things are going to get.
00:18:07.420 And this, of course, is the BBC.
00:18:10.180 I mean, is this, think about how ridiculous this is.
00:18:15.560 And I know every year we have to do the same, I feel like we do the same segment, right?
00:18:20.140 There's always some dumb person they've named time person of the year.
00:18:22.680 And I don't know why we give any attention to it.
00:18:24.420 All that being said, Greta Thunberg, okay.
00:18:29.280 What has she done?
00:18:30.420 She came out and she complained about the climate.
00:18:32.940 Okay.
00:18:33.360 Has she solved the climate?
00:18:35.120 No.
00:18:36.000 What has she done?
00:18:36.680 She's alerted people that there's a problem with the climate and she's 16 years old.
00:18:40.860 She screamed at all of us and said how bad we are because we've taken this world, which, by the way, I don't know if she noticed this.
00:18:47.500 If she grew up in previous generations, her life's a hell of a lot better at 16 years old than it was for every previous generation before her.
00:18:55.000 She could have grown up in just beautiful, beautiful peace and comfort in the World War II generation.
00:19:02.000 Oh, that was a glory time.
00:19:03.540 Wonderful.
00:19:03.700 Before she was there, maybe she could have been rounded up, you know, by a government official because she was saying controversial things against the government.
00:19:12.580 Here she is, a 16-year-old who reads the world the riot act, blames us for stealing her future.
00:19:21.780 This is a person who we have, whose parents and who the media has made her into a person who, I mean, listen to this statement.
00:19:33.780 You have stolen my dreams and my childhood.
00:19:37.040 Say it like her, though.
00:19:39.000 Say it like her.
00:19:39.660 No, no.
00:19:40.260 You're the only one.
00:19:41.220 You're the only one that can even get closer.
00:19:43.200 Yeah, I know.
00:19:43.600 Do we have how dare you?
00:19:45.920 How dare you?
00:19:49.020 Let's see if we can find it.
00:19:49.920 Stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words.
00:19:53.180 Think about that, though.
00:19:54.280 Like, this person believes that a 0.9 degree temperature rise over 100 years destroyed her childhood.
00:20:05.240 We've ripped away any positivity she can think of in her entire life because of less than one degree Celsius.
00:20:14.040 Do you know who stole her future?
00:20:16.680 Her parents.
00:20:18.160 Her parents.
00:20:19.040 Stolen her future.
00:20:20.620 Her childhood.
00:20:21.400 Stole her childhood.
00:20:22.760 That's when you look at your child when they're 10 years old and they're like,
00:20:25.840 Mom and Dad, I cannot sleep.
00:20:29.400 Yeah.
00:20:29.760 And you're like, guys, we're going to make it.
00:20:32.000 It's all right.
00:20:32.940 It's good.
00:20:33.300 We're going to make it.
00:20:33.960 I know because my kids at one point watched a few of my shows and went,
00:20:37.860 I can't make it.
00:20:40.320 And I said to them, we're going to make it.
00:20:42.200 It's fine.
00:20:43.280 We're going to make it.
00:20:44.140 It's going to be tough.
00:20:44.900 Come on.
00:20:45.840 Let's go to Auschwitz.
00:20:46.680 I'll show you how tough it's going to get.
00:20:47.880 But we're going to make it.
00:20:51.080 My kids are adjusted.
00:20:54.120 My kids are fine.
00:20:54.920 My kids don't think that I stole their childhood or that anybody stole their childhood.
00:21:02.300 You could say, well, you've really impacted my future because we're not going to have anything.
00:21:07.760 Think of what she's saying.
00:21:08.780 You stole my childhood.
00:21:11.740 I mean, that's just sad.
00:21:13.600 Legitimately sad.
00:21:14.420 I mean, she's 16 years old, you know, and she's been so indoctrinated that she believes
00:21:20.200 this craziness to the point of like, she's, she won't take a flight across the ocean to
00:21:25.380 talk about it.
00:21:26.200 She takes a boat in which they have to fly the captain of the boat across the ocean to
00:21:31.140 take her back on the boat.
00:21:32.120 Which doesn't make any sense at all.
00:21:33.540 It doesn't make any sense.
00:21:34.420 She's not making any difference.
00:21:35.900 She, let me say this clearly, has made no difference.
00:21:41.320 There is not one thing that is different today that was different than it was happening yesterday.
00:21:47.040 She has not saved any emissions.
00:21:49.420 She has not done anything to do this, to affect this problem in any measurable way.
00:21:55.360 And we give her person of the year because what she's yelling at adults about the thing that
00:22:00.460 she's complaining about.
00:22:01.460 And I would like, just from the perspective of being a parent, like this is the behavior
00:22:06.540 you want to encourage in children.
00:22:08.180 Just the media, you want to encourage, you want to encourage kids to be so self-absorbed
00:22:16.600 and so self-important that they are, they are looking at all adults at 16 years old and
00:22:23.480 saying, get out of my way.
00:22:25.720 Yeah.
00:22:26.100 And I got news for you.
00:22:27.020 Everybody on the left who's saying, no, she wants something important for the climate.
00:22:30.680 She's doing a great thing.
00:22:31.720 This is a wonderful thing.
00:22:32.740 First of all, encouraging activism as an end is not a positive.
00:22:38.180 This is something that's happened over the past, I would say 20 to 30 years where we
00:22:42.220 started rocking the vote and, and, oh, look, look at what kids are doing.
00:22:45.960 They're volunteering for X cause or Y cause.
00:22:48.000 That's not an end.
00:22:49.200 If they're, if they're volunteering for something beneficial and great, well, that, that might
00:22:53.120 be an end, but we've come to this point where we're just praising activism as a thing.
00:22:57.720 And the thing she's suggesting in the speech where everyone remembers, how, how dare you?
00:23:03.260 Uh, everyone remembers that where she's just yelling at the adults.
00:23:05.700 That's all there was.
00:23:06.660 Everything else was common sense.
00:23:08.180 What she's suggesting are things that are far more extreme than Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth
00:23:13.440 Warren.
00:23:14.140 She went, you know, everyone claps for her in the speech.
00:23:16.780 They're yelling at them.
00:23:18.740 She is yelling at the people in the room, the leaders who haven't been able to get these
00:23:22.820 things done.
00:23:23.480 She's talking about, no, think of how dramatic this is, Glenn.
00:23:27.020 This is not a normal proposal that like a left leaning candidate would bring up.
00:23:31.320 She's talking about in 10 years, a 50%, a 50% reduction in emissions, 50% in 10 years.
00:23:42.160 That's like AOC's fever dream.
00:23:45.080 And you know what she says about the 50% reduction in 10 years?
00:23:47.640 How dare you?
00:23:48.680 She says, how dare you?
00:23:49.600 How dare you?
00:23:51.020 She says, uh, she says, uh, look at her.
00:23:53.220 The popular idea of cutting our emissions in half in 10 years only gives us a 50% chance
00:24:00.060 of staying below 1.5 degrees Celsius and the risk of getting, setting off irreversible
00:24:04.980 chain reactions beyond human control.
00:24:07.300 50% may be acceptable to you, but those numbers do not include tipping points, most feedback
00:24:13.000 loops, additional warming hidden by toxic air pollution, all the aspects of equity and
00:24:19.340 climate justice.
00:24:20.920 They also rely on my generation sucking hundreds of billions of dollars and tons of your CO2
00:24:27.000 out of the air with technologies that barely exist.
00:24:29.940 How dare you?
00:24:31.460 How dare you?
00:24:32.520 Thank you.
00:24:33.160 So, but she's saying that thing that I just was talking about as AOC's fever dream is so
00:24:39.280 unacceptable.
00:24:40.380 That's what motivated her to say, how dare you?
00:24:43.880 She's not talking about, this is a person who has lost all ability to keep things in perspective.
00:24:51.660 Very common among 16 year olds.
00:24:53.780 And she's being rewarded for it in dramatic fashion.
00:24:57.460 It's becoming one of the most popular people.
00:25:00.120 And, you know, again, I think these awards should go to people who have accomplished things.
00:25:04.180 She has talked about the climate.
00:25:07.320 Talking about the climate does nothing for the climate.
00:25:10.720 How dare you?
00:25:11.660 This is, this is one of those things where you're getting, uh, it is today.
00:25:18.360 You, if you've just made a video that went viral, you haven't created anything, right?
00:25:28.420 You know, you haven't really created anything.
00:25:30.920 No.
00:25:31.120 And you're just becoming famous because you're the person that was seen on this saying that.
00:25:38.260 Fame is not a goal.
00:25:42.880 Getting the word out is not a goal.
00:25:45.180 If it was a goal of getting the word out, I'd be one happy man all the time.
00:25:49.460 Because I've gotten the word out.
00:25:51.260 On a lot of things.
00:25:51.980 On a lot of things.
00:25:53.160 That's not, that doesn't, that's not the goal.
00:25:55.560 The goal is to make a case to where it changes people's vision and hearts.
00:26:01.340 And quite honestly, I think she's done the opposite.
00:26:06.120 Anybody who thought, well, you know, I want to be reason, you listen to her.
00:26:10.340 And you realize.
00:26:10.980 And you let, you're like, I don't want my child to be like that.
00:26:13.820 I've got to be a better parent and make sure that I keep my kids from, from seeing that anger.
00:26:19.220 This is everything that they said the tea party was doing to their kids.
00:26:24.240 Scaring them to death.
00:26:25.800 They're losing their childhood and they're indoctrinating them.
00:26:28.980 And that's what Greta is a result of.
00:26:33.340 How dare you.
00:26:35.060 Thank you very much.
00:26:38.960 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:26:52.080 Hey, it's Glenn.
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00:27:13.060 The ultimate disruptor will be the, is possible to be the person of the year next year for 2020.
00:27:22.920 And that will be Donald Trump.
00:27:25.220 If, if he does the impeachment trial in the Senate right, and if he does what he does best and gets people to watch, he will disrupt the Justice Department, the DOJ, intelligence community.
00:27:43.980 He will destroy the credibility of the DNC.
00:27:48.180 It's, it is all happening in January if they do it right.
00:27:52.980 And he will be the ultimate disruptor of the year, possibly the disruptor of the last 100 years.
00:27:59.120 And there's been a lot of disruption, but this one could give your country back to you.
00:28:05.000 Uh, Greta is on the phone?
00:28:06.880 Hello, Greta.
00:28:07.700 Hello.
00:28:08.460 Hi.
00:28:09.240 Hi.
00:28:10.480 How dare you?
00:28:12.020 I, I didn't mean to make you hold.
00:28:13.900 How dare you make me wait?
00:28:15.120 I didn't, I'm sorry, I...
00:28:17.320 I'm the watching wheel, Mr. Beck.
00:28:19.640 Mm-hmm.
00:28:19.980 This is all wrong.
00:28:21.240 Mm-hmm.
00:28:21.560 I shouldn't be on this phone.
00:28:22.940 I should be back at school on the other side of the ocean.
00:28:25.700 You really should, but you're Time Magazine Person of the Year.
00:28:29.240 All of you have come for me and my generation.
00:28:32.540 How dare you?
00:28:33.660 What, what was that?
00:28:34.580 How dare you?
00:28:35.620 I woke up this morning, and I specifically requested birthday cake, mini muffins.
00:28:43.120 And I was, I was supplied with banana nut.
00:28:46.320 Banana nut.
00:28:47.960 Right.
00:28:48.420 How dare you?
00:28:49.780 Right.
00:28:50.320 Okay, well, I...
00:28:51.180 When I woke up this morning, my mom, she had put out my clothes, laid them out for me
00:28:57.360 today, and she laid out my plain gray sweater.
00:29:02.000 Mm-hmm.
00:29:02.700 When I specifically requested my other plain gray sweater.
00:29:07.920 How dare you?
00:29:09.160 Yeah, well, has it wrecked your childhood?
00:29:10.900 I mean, let's have some perspective here.
00:29:13.060 It has wrecked my childhood.
00:29:14.580 It has ruined my life.
00:29:15.940 Uh-huh.
00:29:16.260 And it's destroyed all, all human existence.
00:29:19.960 Right.
00:29:20.180 I don't think it, I don't think it...
00:29:22.220 Why, I had chores.
00:29:24.360 You had what?
00:29:24.780 I had chores to do today.
00:29:26.120 Chores?
00:29:26.640 Chores.
00:29:27.160 Chores.
00:29:27.860 Chores.
00:29:28.240 I had chores to do.
00:29:29.320 Chores, okay.
00:29:30.580 And I was required to do them, but I did not want to do them.
00:29:33.100 All right.
00:29:33.500 I wanted to yell at parents about the climate.
00:29:36.580 Right.
00:29:36.960 And I was supposed to make my bed.
00:29:38.680 Mm-hmm.
00:29:38.900 And I was supposed to clean my room.
00:29:41.100 How dare you?
00:29:42.520 I asked for help, and mom said no.
00:29:45.640 Right.
00:29:46.300 And I said, I want an Ooppa Loopa now.
00:29:50.940 The Ooppa Loopa will help me.
00:29:52.760 How dare you give me the Ooppa Loopa?
00:29:54.600 All right.
00:29:55.140 We've got to run.
00:29:55.820 Thank you so much, Greta.
00:29:56.820 I appreciate it.
00:29:58.200 Greta Thunberg, who is, of course, the person of the year here on the Glenn Beck program.
00:30:06.980 So, the most Googled things in America.
00:30:11.380 Number one, what do you think we Googled the most?
00:30:15.640 Most Googled in the entire country.
00:30:17.560 In the entire country for the year.
00:30:20.120 Well, it's obviously a Kardashian.
00:30:21.480 Which one?
00:30:22.060 Nope.
00:30:23.340 Nope.
00:30:24.160 I was going to break it down in that way.
00:30:25.520 No.
00:30:25.800 I don't know.
00:30:26.460 What is it?
00:30:27.000 Disney Plus.
00:30:29.220 Okay.
00:30:29.760 Yeah.
00:30:29.940 A lot of hype.
00:30:31.300 Amazing, though.
00:30:32.080 Disney is going through.
00:30:33.700 I mean, they are the first company to ever have a $10 billion year on just 10 movies.
00:30:41.560 Each, right?
00:30:42.360 No.
00:30:42.480 So, six movies have already gone to a billion dollars.
00:30:46.180 Right.
00:30:46.460 Does not include Frozen 2, which is, if it hasn't already, hit a billion dollars.
00:30:50.300 And it does not include Star Wars, which obviously is going to hit a billion.
00:30:53.140 So, there are going to be over $10 billion for the year.
00:30:56.220 And that's just in their movies.
00:30:57.500 And we should point out the only movie, I think, in the top nine movies of the year that isn't theirs is Spider-Man.
00:31:04.520 And that one is kind of theirs.
00:31:06.260 It's partially theirs.
00:31:08.220 There's like an agreement with Sony who actually distributed it.
00:31:12.240 But they actually have part of that piece, too.
00:31:15.460 I mean, they are completely dominating the media landscape.
00:31:18.020 Completely remaking Epcot.
00:31:21.060 Completely remaking it.
00:31:22.480 Really?
00:31:22.740 Yeah.
00:31:23.180 Completely remaking it.
00:31:24.320 It's going to be, you know, a theme park with rides and everything else.
00:31:29.200 And they're just blowing it up.
00:31:31.200 As a Disney nerd, how do you feel about that?
00:31:33.180 Oh, I'm thrilled with it.
00:31:34.220 It's been Yesterdayville for a long time.
00:31:35.820 Because Tomorrowland was like 1985.
00:31:38.080 Yeah.
00:31:39.020 And Epcot, I mean, Walt Disney said, you know, it should always be in an ever state of change.
00:31:45.860 And always ahead.
00:31:46.500 And always ahead.
00:31:47.680 And they have missed that mark, you know, back when they opened the doors in 1980.
00:31:52.680 Maybe they'll get it.
00:31:53.600 Maybe they'll get it now.
00:31:54.520 But anyway, so Disney Plus was the number one.
00:31:57.440 Number 10 on what is.
00:32:00.140 What is.
00:32:01.120 Number 10 is what is a Mandalorian.
00:32:04.580 Wow.
00:32:05.200 And that just happened.
00:32:06.540 Star Wars.
00:32:07.140 Right.
00:32:07.420 Disney Plus.
00:32:08.020 Right.
00:32:08.300 So think about all the things we asked.
00:32:10.340 What is over the year?
00:32:12.720 In the last month, there's been enough people saying, what is a Mandalorian?
00:32:16.400 That it has put it on its top 10.
00:32:18.400 And the number one baby search is Baby Yoda.
00:32:23.280 Number one.
00:32:24.200 Holy crap.
00:32:25.880 Yeah.
00:32:26.120 And they are just dominating.
00:32:27.100 They are dominating everything.
00:32:28.960 I mean, there was a time not all that long ago that Disney really kind of seemed like they were on the downswing.
00:32:34.680 And, you know, it didn't seem like.
00:32:36.100 I remember when I was 19 years old and I couldn't afford it, but I remember reading about Disney being on the outs and Michael Eisner was rumored to be coming in.
00:32:47.820 And their stock was just tanking.
00:32:51.500 And I wanted to buy one share of stock and it was like $10 or something like that.
00:32:56.860 I just wanted to buy one share because that's all I could afford.
00:32:59.720 You're a cool kid, huh?
00:33:01.320 Oh, I was so popular.
00:33:02.420 Yeah, I thought so.
00:33:03.060 I was so popular.
00:33:04.120 I'm 19 and I'm dreaming about buying one share of Disney stock.
00:33:09.000 Could there be a bigger loser sentence than that?
00:33:12.340 Especially in the days when it was a loser.
00:33:14.460 It wasn't like it was like Apple.
00:33:16.720 You know, it's going to know I'm telling you it's going to take off.
00:33:18.820 This was everyone was saying it's over.
00:33:20.500 And I'm like, no way.
00:33:21.580 What would it be worth, though?
00:33:22.580 Have you done the calculations?
00:33:23.840 No, I haven't.
00:33:24.340 Let me do it.
00:33:25.020 No, no, I don't want you to do it.
00:33:26.400 It'll be good.
00:33:26.680 I think it'll be good for the show.
00:33:27.320 No, it will be very bad.
00:33:29.340 It'll just be another long list.
00:33:30.320 Everything is going to be fine.
00:33:34.140 All right, number two on the list of what we Googled.
00:33:37.540 Cameron Boyce.
00:33:38.700 That's the guy who died, what, July 6th.
00:33:45.040 Then Nipsey Hussle.
00:33:46.340 That was another one that was shot and killed.
00:33:48.600 Then Hurricane Dorian.
00:33:50.920 Then Antonio Brown, the NFL player with the rape accusation.
00:33:55.680 Then Luke Perry, who died.
00:33:56.980 I mean, we are just, we're morbid.
00:33:59.040 When we're looking for news, we're looking for who died today.
00:34:03.360 Who died and why should I care?
00:34:06.700 Then it was Avengers Endgame, Game of Thrones, the new iPhone 11, and then Jussie Smollett was number 10 of the big things that we Googled.
00:34:17.240 Uh, I think it's interesting also.
00:34:22.120 Uh, they looked at different things, uh, like, uh, trips.
00:34:27.300 The number one thing that people were looking into, uh, on, on going places is, uh, shoot, what did I just say?
00:34:38.040 I can't find this, this particular page.
00:34:40.220 Yeah, the Maldives.
00:34:41.080 The Maldives, which no need to Google, no need to Google.
00:34:45.960 The Maldives, my wife has wanted to go to the Maldives forever.
00:34:49.580 And, uh, she just likes the sun and everything else.
00:34:53.700 I don't even know where the Maldives are.
00:34:55.800 And so I Googled them.
00:34:56.960 Where are the Maldives?
00:34:57.860 What are the Maldives?
00:34:58.840 And it's beautiful.
00:35:00.540 And then I Googled, how much is a ticket to go there for airlines?
00:35:06.220 It takes you 36 from Dallas.
00:35:08.860 It takes you 36 hours to fly there.
00:35:14.300 No place.
00:35:15.660 The moon is not worth 36 hours in a plane.
00:35:20.500 36 hours.
00:35:22.340 And then you got to come back.
00:35:23.360 I mean, if you're moving there, you're like, oh, well, I'm moving to the Maldives.
00:35:26.320 And so, okay, maybe you spend 36 hours, but to visit for a week, 36 hours.
00:35:33.480 And because I was looking around Christmas time, you know, this is a few months ago, the, the coach ticket was, I think, $24,000.
00:35:45.440 And first class was like $56,000.
00:35:48.600 And I'm like, who's going there?
00:35:51.540 Who's taking 36 hours and 24 grand to sit next to the toilet and go into the Maldives?
00:35:59.740 I'm so relaxed.
00:36:01.040 I'd be freaked out the whole time.
00:36:02.500 I've got to spend 36 hours next to the toilet and coach in just a few days.
00:36:08.200 I'd be too stressed out.
00:36:11.160 So don't Google it.
00:36:12.620 You don't want to go.
00:36:13.640 That seems like a really long time.
00:36:15.260 Unless you're going for like, what, a month?
00:36:17.060 I mean, what was the appropriate?
00:36:18.780 Seriously, though.
00:36:19.580 But what would it feel like?
00:36:20.880 You're going coach, no leg room, 36 hours between two big fat people.
00:36:28.260 I'm one of them.
00:36:30.540 And you're sitting there and you're like, for the last few days of the vacation, I'd be like, I don't want to go back.
00:36:36.000 Not because it's so beautiful here.
00:36:37.760 I don't want to get on that plane again.
00:36:39.240 Yeah.
00:36:39.440 I don't want to go.
00:36:40.060 I don't want to go.
00:36:40.620 I don't want to go.
00:36:41.180 That's where drugs come in.
00:36:42.480 You drug yourself heavily for the flight.
00:36:45.480 And maybe you take enough that it's questionable whether you wake up or not on the other side.
00:36:49.840 That's about how much you should take.
00:36:51.080 Yeah, if you could put me down, you could freeze me or do whatever you have to do to get me to Mars.
00:36:56.440 You know, okay, I'm okay with that.
00:36:57.820 I don't think they're freezing people to get to Mars, by the way.
00:37:00.100 By the way, we never talked about the Mars thing that came out earlier this week where you can't have, if you decide, you know, hey, Elon, I'm going to go.
00:37:08.980 I know you've been begging, but I'm going to go.
00:37:12.040 And I'm going to live on Mars.
00:37:13.520 If you live on Mars, and we don't know how much time this will take, but at least the next generation, so if you have children on Mars, those kids will be Martians, and they will not be humanoids.
00:37:32.160 They will not be, I should say it this way, they will not be Earthlings.
00:37:36.360 And so you will be having relations with another species, something, an alien, an alien.
00:37:47.800 And they say now that the people that will be coming back and forth from Mars, if you find a hot Martian, and you're like, hey, I mean, it's just, hey, what happens on Mars stays on Mars.
00:38:02.240 They say you can't do it because it might kill you.
00:38:07.400 I don't know.
00:38:08.540 A, I mean, there's so many questions I have.
00:38:12.180 A, how do they know that?
00:38:14.200 B, why would they want to know that?
00:38:17.980 C, what is the reason any of us?
00:38:20.100 That's one of the questions you would have to ask.
00:38:21.280 You're sending humans into space for the rest of their life.
00:38:24.780 Can I just, I got a question.
00:38:26.800 How's sex work up there?
00:38:28.340 I mean, that's one of the obvious questions.
00:38:30.340 How do they know that you're going to die because you have sex?
00:38:33.200 Did you see the movie for the, what was it, for your stars or I'm your star or whatever that one?
00:38:38.500 Sounds great the way you describe it.
00:38:39.480 Where that kid was born on Mars and then he had to come back for some surgery or something, remember?
00:38:45.460 And he could only stay on, that's how they know they saw it in a movie.
00:38:49.640 Telling you.
00:38:50.660 I mean, it sounds riveting.
00:38:52.560 No, it's because you, because of, of.
00:38:55.800 Mutations, basically?
00:38:56.780 Yeah, there'll be mutations in your DNA just so you will be more, you will adapt.
00:39:04.360 And so you'll adapt to the gravity, you'll adapt to everything.
00:39:08.640 So your body will work differently.
00:39:12.340 And so you won't have the strength to be able to live on Earth
00:39:17.740 because your whole system will be made for a different atmosphere and a different gravity.
00:39:24.780 No, I mean, I guess, I guess it's something to be concerned about because we're, you know, right, right around the corner.
00:39:30.940 I mean, we'll be there any day.
00:39:32.480 So we better figure it out.
00:39:33.180 You don't think we'll be there, but by the time 2030?
00:39:36.320 2030?
00:39:37.340 10 years?
00:39:38.520 How long does it take to go to Mars?
00:39:40.760 Oh, it's not a short journey.
00:39:42.440 Should we say we'll, we'll launch by 2030?
00:39:46.940 People towards Mars.
00:39:48.200 Yeah.
00:39:49.780 I don't know.
00:39:51.060 Elon Musk says 2024.
00:39:52.800 Yeah.
00:39:53.200 And he says it might even be earlier than that.
00:39:55.160 Think of that.
00:39:55.540 He could probably do it.
00:39:55.940 That'll be, think of that.
00:39:58.000 That would happen then in the, the next Trump presidency.
00:40:03.840 She, if he had another term.
00:40:05.580 If he has another term, going, sending a group of people to Mars will happen in that term.
00:40:15.040 I mean, Elon Musk has also told us Tesla was going to be profitable.
00:40:18.420 So, I mean, he's not always reliable.
00:40:21.860 Did you see his court case?
00:40:24.020 How did he get out of that one?
00:40:26.300 Well, it was an offhanded comment on Twitter.
00:40:29.120 You're going to get, call the guy the pedo guy.
00:40:31.720 Who knows?
00:40:33.020 You know, I mean, it seems like a, I don't, you can't sue everybody for every insult you get on Twitter.
00:40:38.180 Let's, let's not be ridiculous here.
00:40:39.600 By the way, six to eight months to Mars and you would have made 280 times your money.
00:40:44.380 Which is nice, but also is not going to change your life.
00:40:47.760 280 times?
00:40:48.580 With a $10 investment.
00:40:49.640 Is that with the split?
00:40:50.780 That's with all the dividends and everything, yeah.
00:40:53.140 Oh, that's no big deal.
00:40:54.220 Well, I mean, it's a nice, it's a nice amount.
00:40:55.620 If you put $1,000 in, it would have been really nice.
00:40:58.220 I probably would have put maybe $200 into it.
00:41:00.360 Okay, well, that would have been pretty nice.
00:41:02.020 Would have been pretty nice.
00:41:03.060 Because $100 would be, what, $28,000?
00:41:07.640 Shut up.
00:41:07.920 Yeah, $28,000.
00:41:08.520 Shut up.
00:41:08.880 So you're talking about.
00:41:09.560 Shut up.
00:41:10.120 $50,000.
00:41:11.100 Shut up.
00:41:12.560 I don't know why you're yelling at me.
00:41:14.080 How dare you?
00:41:14.340 Because shut.
00:41:15.300 Just here.
00:41:15.860 There's a new t-shirt available at glenbeck.com or in the Blaze shop.
00:41:20.120 And it's right here.
00:41:21.040 Just shut up.
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00:41:46.340 It was April 4th, 1965, when Colonel Carlisle Smitty Harris'
00:41:50.920 plane was shot down over Vietnam.
00:41:54.400 He was captured and sent to a POW camp for eight years, 2,871 days.
00:42:04.220 He was held in one of the most notorious prisoner camps of any war,
00:42:11.400 the Hanoi Hilton.
00:42:13.420 He endured torture and abuse.
00:42:16.640 He was confined in horrible conditions.
00:42:19.140 And yet, somehow or another, he managed to find a way to survive
00:42:23.500 and give others hope.
00:42:26.280 Smitty is on the phone with us now.
00:42:28.180 Hi, Smitty.
00:42:28.660 How are you?
00:42:30.120 I'm just fine.
00:42:31.200 How are you?
00:42:31.800 I am great, sir.
00:42:33.980 I am interested for you to lay out the story that is in your new book
00:42:38.760 called Tap Code.
00:42:41.060 Before we get to what the tap code is, tell us the conditions.
00:42:44.640 I mean, what were you, how old were you when you first went down in 1965?
00:42:50.460 I was 36.
00:42:52.180 You were 36 years old and you go down.
00:42:54.900 Your life, you were married to your wife, Louise.
00:42:58.600 You have children?
00:42:59.840 Yes.
00:43:00.780 You had children?
00:43:01.480 We had two daughters and she was to deliver our third child in about a month
00:43:08.040 after I was shot down.
00:43:10.020 Oh, my gosh.
00:43:10.640 So you crash, how long before you were captured?
00:43:15.500 It was almost immediately.
00:43:19.320 Unfortunately, when my chute opened at fairly low altitude, I was right over
00:43:25.300 a Vietnam village and was only able to slip the chute slightly to land just
00:43:34.080 outside the village and there were people looking up at the sky and saw me.
00:43:38.460 I was overcome by people there, some with guns, most with hoses and sticks,
00:43:46.300 but I was captured immediately.
00:43:47.920 And did you have any idea what was in store for you at all?
00:43:53.580 I knew I was going to be in North Vietnam for quite a long time.
00:44:00.160 I would not have thought eight years, but at any rate, I knew I was going to be
00:44:06.500 confined and I knew little beyond that.
00:44:11.640 So when you get there, it's now called the Hanoi Hilton.
00:44:15.320 Tell us about what life was like for everybody at the Hanoi Hilton.
00:44:24.240 Well, there were several parts of the Hanoi Hilton and they were separated enough that we
00:44:32.520 did not have good communication between groups.
00:44:36.780 And the North Vietnamese did not let us communicate even with people in the next cell.
00:44:41.840 And they tried to use everything, including torture, to keep us from communicating.
00:44:52.340 We were mostly held at first in solitary confinement.
00:44:58.040 And then as the more shoot downs were brought in, I think due to pressure of numbers,
00:45:05.900 numbers, we had a cellmate sometimes.
00:45:10.460 And the food was awful.
00:45:15.120 It was meager.
00:45:17.600 We lost about 20% of our normal weight in the first three or four months that we were there.
00:45:26.920 Fed twice a day, a watery soup and some rice or sometimes bread.
00:45:33.080 And how big was the cell?
00:45:39.200 The cell was about seven feet by seven feet.
00:45:44.460 And there were concrete bunks on either side with a narrow aisle in between,
00:45:51.400 sometimes heavy wooden planks were used as the beds.
00:45:56.360 And the only thing in the cell besides us were some heavy stalks at the end of the beds
00:46:06.860 to hold our ankles and also a bucket.
00:46:12.980 And that was it.
00:46:14.720 And Smitty, we know what they did to John McCain.
00:46:18.400 I mean, they pulled his arms out of his sockets.
00:46:21.240 And I mean, the torture that you guys went through is horrendous.
00:46:27.420 What did you, what were they trying to get out of you?
00:46:32.320 Well, initially, they were trying to get military information, like the capabilities of our aircraft,
00:46:39.400 targets, organization, anything that would help them from a military viewpoint.
00:46:45.740 But after, you know, a few months, they found that they had exhausted their efforts to get that kind of information
00:46:55.680 because we would not cooperate with them at all.
00:46:59.940 We'd give them name rank, service number, and date of birth and were punished accordingly.
00:47:07.400 But they didn't get any good military information.
00:47:11.400 So then they tried to indoctrinate us by telling us the history of Vietnam and everything that was wrong with the United States
00:47:20.960 and then get us to write some statement that was favorable to the North Vietnamese.
00:47:28.560 And if you were unsuccessful.
00:47:29.400 If you were alone and you didn't have anybody to talk to, how is it that that didn't work to some degree on somebody?
00:47:39.040 Well, it did.
00:47:40.940 At first, we had no communication between different parts of Hano Hilton.
00:47:48.280 And some of the guys were told that everyone else was cooperating.
00:47:55.040 Why didn't they?
00:47:56.720 And that, you know, using one field to grab you against the other.
00:48:01.280 But as soon as we got communication, we cleared that all up and started working as a military unit.
00:48:09.280 And so you.
00:48:10.140 As individuals.
00:48:11.120 And that communication was tap code and you created this.
00:48:16.940 And what was it?
00:48:18.520 How did it work?
00:48:20.360 Well, really, I did not create it.
00:48:23.800 I had learned before I went over to Okinawa to my duty station there.
00:48:30.480 And when I was shot down, it was not any of the services.
00:48:39.120 So I guess I was the only POW that knew the tap code.
00:48:44.420 And is it like, is it like a Morris code?
00:48:47.860 Well, no, it was a five by five matrix of the alphabet.
00:48:52.300 We left out the letter K.
00:48:54.100 And the first line was A, B, C, D, E, the second F, G, H, I, J, and the third L, M, N, O, P, and so on.
00:49:07.280 So you would tap the first column was A, F, L, Q, V, and you would tap one of those letters just by tapping identify it.
00:49:20.740 And then pause and then over to the letter that you wanted to send.
00:49:27.240 For instance, an L would be A, tap, tap, tap, tap.
00:49:38.880 Yeah, no, that's all right.
00:49:40.060 I think I get it.
00:49:41.160 I think I get it.
00:49:42.260 So did you, you began to communicate with each other.
00:49:47.960 And how did that change things?
00:49:50.740 Well, it was a moral gesture for one, Misery Loves Company.
00:50:01.100 But the biggest thing was that we were able to communicate what was going on, what they were trying to do to each of us.
00:50:10.680 And we could find ways to try to counter what they were attempting to learn from us.
00:50:19.180 And we all, being military, with any communication group, no matter how small or how large that group might be, we would find out who was the senior ranking POW in that group.
00:50:36.000 And he would make decisions for us.
00:50:41.000 And we felt comfortable with that because, for instance, if we would discuss what was the best answer to some of their questions.
00:50:50.100 And there would be several approaches, but he would say, we are going to respond this way, and everybody's going to be consistent.
00:51:00.860 And it really helped us avoid giving the North Vietnamese any advantage whatsoever.
00:51:12.800 Do you know who Hugh Stafford is, commander of the U.S. Navy, Hugh Stafford?
00:51:19.420 You remember him?
00:51:20.120 I know the name.
00:51:21.520 Okay.
00:51:21.800 Anyway, I was given by his family all of his records from his time there.
00:51:29.200 And it was, I've never read anything like it.
00:51:36.260 And part of the things that he said was, towards the end, I'm afraid of rescue.
00:51:42.640 And I'm afraid of going home because I'm afraid of how I'll react because I know people had to move on with their lives.
00:51:52.160 They don't know if I'm alive or dead.
00:51:54.600 And I'm still where I was when I was shot down and went through all of this.
00:52:00.380 But everything has changed when I get home, I'm sure.
00:52:03.560 Were you worried about that with Louise and the children and without any communication?
00:52:09.180 I was not worried at all.
00:52:13.680 Louise and I had a, I'm going to say, a perfect union.
00:52:17.100 And we trusted each other and knew each other.
00:52:20.020 And I also knew that Louise was a very strong person who could take care of our finances, our children, and make decisions for our family.
00:52:30.760 And I knew that when I came home, I would walk through the door, and it would be as if I'd walked around the block.
00:52:39.180 And did she know the whole time?
00:52:40.820 I know she sent 100 packages over.
00:52:42.760 You only got two.
00:52:44.200 But so she knew you were there and alive.
00:52:48.740 Yes.
00:52:49.340 She found out in August, I was shot down in April, that I actually was alive as a POW there.
00:52:58.080 But she believed from the very beginning, even though my squatter mates had seen my airplane go down and blow a fire and did not see me eject.
00:53:13.420 Huh.
00:53:14.620 Smitty, my best to Louise.
00:53:16.180 Thank you for sharing some of this.
00:53:18.320 This book is epic.
00:53:20.680 It's the epic survival tale of Vietnam POW and the secret code that changed everything.
00:53:25.680 And it really goes between his story and Louise.
00:53:28.060 You really have to hear Louise's story as well, because she played a big role for all of those whose husbands were missing.
00:53:35.000 And these two together are amazing.
00:53:38.400 It's called Tap Code, a true story.
00:53:41.100 Tap Code.
00:53:41.880 It's available everywhere.
00:53:43.440 Would make a great Christmas gift for people.
00:53:46.140 Smitty, thank you so much.
00:53:47.360 And my best to Louise.
00:53:48.780 God bless.
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