The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Colin Wright

00:00:00.000 Hey, Monday's podcast. We've got a great one for you today. Do you as a parent have any rights or

00:00:04.920 are you just a babysitter now? We get into that. Also, we get into the National Gun Registry and

00:00:11.340 a story from the New York Times that shows just how much the Democrats have changed their position

00:00:19.520 on guns. Even the New York Times says it's pretty stunning. And it is. We talk about the rights of

00:00:26.820 First Amendment and the Second Amendment, all on today's podcast.

00:00:40.860 So the New York Times surveyed the 2020 Democrats on gun control, and they found that there are

00:00:52.720 there are some dividing lines here. Not a lot of dividing lines, I think, between the Democrats.

00:01:01.600 I mean, there are a few, but between anyone who believes in gun rights and the Democratic field,

00:01:07.440 there's some really, really bright lines being drawn. It seems remarkable. I'm going to quote

00:01:18.080 the New York Times. If it seems unremarkable that every Democratic presidential candidate wants to

00:01:24.680 ban assault weapons, it's worth looking back just a few years. In 2013, the last time a ban received a

00:01:31.760 floor vote in the Senate, nearly 30% of the Democratic caucus voted against it. The Times survey adds to a

00:01:40.200 pile of evidence that a segment of the Democratic Party is headed towards extinction. And that extinction

00:01:47.780 that part of the party is the one that believes in the Second Amendment. It is no longer politically

00:01:54.480 tenable to be a Democratic presidential candidate and support the sale of an AR, which has become the

00:02:00.140 weapon of choice for mass shooters. No, no, it hasn't. Handguns also are used. Several other policies had

00:02:09.820 unanimous support among the candidates who completed the survey. So-called red flag laws, which allow

00:02:16.000 confiscation of guns from people judged to pose an imminent risk to themselves or others, this is

00:02:22.200 this is one of the more dangerous ones, in my opinion, the so-called red flag laws. We already have

00:02:28.560 those. If you think someone is a danger to themselves or to others, you already can call police and they will

00:02:37.320 already take the gun away from them. They'll have to go to a mental hospital and be checked out. But that's

00:02:44.640 the system we have. There has to be due process involved. And what they want to do is get rid of

00:02:50.080 that. Yeah, it's too slow. And the Democrats too slow for due process. Yeah. And the left continually gives

00:02:57.460 commercials to the warning signs of what's going on. You mentioned the Ben Shapiro thing earlier today,

00:03:02.860 where he talked about defending the lives of his children against someone coming and trying to

00:03:08.800 take them from the government. And it was a big, big issue over the weekend. Well, what was the

00:03:14.540 response from Eric Swalwell, the former presidential candidate, congressman? He said, perfect use of red

00:03:21.740 flag laws. The second someone disagrees with their opinion, well, all of a sudden they're too crazy to

00:03:28.740 have their guns. If you're wondering how these things will be utilized, Eric Swalwell just gave

00:03:33.120 you a commercial for it. He didn't like Ben Shapiro's rant on the internet. Now take his guns.

00:03:39.840 And this is the demonstration of why I believe in the second amendment. It's not because I like to

00:03:46.880 shoot. It's not because I, my family and I, we, we do it all the time and we enjoy it. It's not that I'm

00:03:54.140 going out and hunting for my food. I have my guns for one specific reason. And that is a check on the

00:04:02.640 balance of power. If you think the United States government is not afraid of people with guns, why

00:04:11.320 did Swalwell say that? Why would Swalwell say, well, if you disagree with us, we have to come take your

00:04:17.820 guns. And he didn't say that, but he said what Ben Shapiro said was a, was a, a good reason for the

00:04:26.060 red flag laws. Well, what Ben said was my children belong to me. And if you want to come and take my

00:04:34.800 children away, because I won't teach them that there are no genders, I'm sorry. Uh, you meet me at the

00:04:43.740 front door with a gun because I will defend my right to teach that to my children and to keep my

00:04:50.680 children. That to me is perfectly reasonable, perfectly reasonable. I would never think of the state going

00:04:59.640 in and taking somebody away, their children away because they, um, uh, they believe that there are 97

00:05:08.080 genders. I would say, well, you know what, let the free market work that out. Let the public work

00:05:15.720 that out. You know, that kid is going to grow up and he's going to believe all kinds of crazy things.

00:05:20.640 Well, that's okay. He'll believe lots of crazy things, but it's mom and dad's right to teach it

00:05:27.060 to him. And we know over 80% of people who, uh, question their gender early in life, why and don't

00:05:34.160 have the surgery wind up coming out on the other side and saying they are pleased that they didn't

00:05:38.720 have the surgery. Uh, you know, that's just, eventually people kind of figure that stuff out.

00:05:43.140 Now, if you want to change the sex of your four-year-old, six-year-old, even 10-year-old,

00:05:48.600 well then maybe we should, maybe we should talk about that as a society. Cause that's a new idea.

00:05:55.200 I think that is abusive because you're making a change. They cannot change back. And they might

00:06:02.560 like princess dresses today, but as Stu said, studies show later they don't. So if you are

00:06:11.160 fundamentally altering their body and their chemistry, well, that, that's a, that's a,

00:06:19.000 that's something we should all discuss, but right now it's totally fine. You can do that. That's

00:06:24.820 totally fine. When did we decide that? When did we ever, when did we ever voice that the elites

00:06:32.780 are voicing that and they want to jam that down my throat? No. Well, that's funny too, because it's,

00:06:38.840 it's really the reason why we didn't all decide that is because a lot of times it's kind of none

00:06:43.980 of our business, right? They are taking advantage of the thing that they want to end the advantage of,

00:06:49.740 of parental choice and you can raise your parents however you want. Now you're talking about physical

00:06:54.260 changes, uh, and you know, cutting somebody open for a surgery they don't need that's covered under

00:06:59.980 other laws. But as far as arguing for those things, teaching your kids that there's 97 genders,

00:07:05.300 that is completely your right as a parent. It might be something that you think is nuts.

00:07:09.760 Yep. I don't like it, but that's, you're right. I, I teach my faith this, you know,

00:07:15.720 what's so crazy is my faith came out with a proclamation of a family in the nineties. And I

00:07:22.660 remember everybody going, what did it, why would they issue this? And it was a very big deal. It's

00:07:29.340 a cornerstone of our church. And it talks about how sacred the family is and that gender

00:07:37.960 is something that is assigned eternally in heaven, that you are born male and female and they are not

00:07:49.660 to be changed or trifled with. This is in the nineties. It's specific about that. So now you're

00:07:57.540 going to come and tell me that I have to teach my children something that my faith says, absolutely not.

00:08:03.980 Absolutely not. No, I, you know what? I have a right to my faith, to my practice of religion of

00:08:13.380 raising my children. And if that means I meet you at the front door with a gun, damn right. I'll meet

00:08:19.120 you at the front door with a gun. Now I don't believe my faith will say that, but that's the way

00:08:28.180 I feel. So, okay. So red flag laws. There's the first one. That's the only one. We just got

00:08:34.960 through one, one of the policies proposed a ban on high capacity magazines. That's the dumbest thing

00:08:41.520 I've ever heard. Do you know that you have something called a 3d printer and you can print

00:08:46.700 magazines? The bad guys will just print them. I mean, people who have a 3d printer who obey the law,

00:08:54.740 they're not going to print them, but you could print those at your house. It's so ridiculous.

00:09:02.200 I mean, and to think that you could stop them from being mailed around, ordered on the internet

00:09:06.100 is insane. An unnamed relative of mine recently told me that they got in the mail of a gift from

00:09:13.900 a friend of theirs, which happened to be, um, edibles, right? Uh, you know, marijuana laced

00:09:21.500 food. Okay. How are you stopping that? I'd like to know how like, right. The Texas doesn't have it

00:09:27.840 legal. Uh, Utah doesn't have it legal, but you're telling me you're going to stop there. I think

00:09:32.480 individually inspect every package of gummy bears that gets mailed to see if there's marijuana in

00:09:37.980 it. It's just effectively legal in it, in every state because of the same things like this. Try to

00:09:43.380 ban it. Anyone who wants it can get it right. And the same thing that's happened with these tiny pieces

00:09:48.620 of plastic or metal that could easily, we're talking about a container. What it, what it's a

00:09:54.860 container in a spring, a high capacity magazine. What it is. Anybody can get these things. You can

00:10:00.580 get the parts for them easily. You can 3d print them. You can get them mailed, uh, you know, from,

00:10:05.500 from the internet. You could make them. You could make them. You could make them. It's ridiculous to

00:10:10.300 think that banning them would do anything. Yeah. No, it will keep them out of the hands of people who

00:10:15.440 want to respect the law. Yeah. It will not do it for anyone who doesn't give a flying crap. Right.

00:10:23.760 I mean, this is, this isn't, I'm making a gun. This is, I'm making a magazine. It's, and you can't

00:10:30.460 have this conversation with people who have never held a gun because they have no idea what a magazine

00:10:34.600 is. They've absolutely no idea what a magazine is. And it takes you a while to really understand

00:10:41.820 magazine and clip. It's different. And you know what? Once you learn that you're like, yeah,

00:10:48.780 I understand. It's like, we're not a Republic. We're not a democracy. We're a Republic. It's one

00:10:54.980 of those things that people don't get. And it drives people nuts because you cannot have an argument

00:11:02.840 with somebody who doesn't even understand the difference between a clip and a magazine

00:11:07.460 because it shows you haven't been around it enough to understand it. How am I going to have

00:11:13.240 a conference, a conversation with you about a gun? When you can't tell me about the little plastic

00:11:18.500 thing that you put bullets in that goes into the gun or a little metal thing that holds all the

00:11:23.400 bullets together before you put them in a gun. Yeah. Right. And there's no way to have that

00:11:28.500 conversation because the person you're talking to has no knowledge on the topic. No. And this is,

00:11:32.600 this goes to also what, what stupid Beto's campaign said about all of this. When they

00:11:38.460 talked about, you know, people, when you try to ban their AR-15 or take it from them, what's to

00:11:41.920 prevent them from keeping these guns? They're just going to keep them. And Beto's representative

00:11:46.760 said, look, no, we believe the American people are law abiding. And when it comes down, when these

00:11:51.140 laws are passed, they're going to follow the law and handle them in. Well, then why are you

00:11:54.420 passing the law? If you believe that they're following the law, why are you taking their guns?

00:11:59.900 They're going to cross the line on keeping their gun, but not this evil murder. The people

00:12:05.000 you are talking about, you're admitting that your law has no effect. Because you're only

00:12:10.460 taking them from the people who care about the law. Care about the law to not, let's say,

00:12:16.400 shoot up a movie theater. Right? Like, these are not the people you need to worry about killing

00:12:21.840 others. The people that are going to willingly turn in their guns, you're only taking them away

00:12:27.220 from the most compliant people. Because this honestly is not about guns. As I wrote in the

00:12:35.100 book called Control, it's not about guns. This is about control. And our founders understood

00:12:43.140 that. They knew. That's why you have the Second Amendment. You know, England, England, everybody

00:12:51.960 had guns in England. Everybody had guns. Until the king decided, you know, they're getting

00:12:58.300 a little unruly here and they don't like the things that I'm doing. Take away all their

00:13:02.360 guns. That's what, that was the lesson our founders understood. Wait a minute, how did

00:13:12.120 the king get out of control? Oh, he got out of control when he took everybody's guns. That's

00:13:18.960 how? You know, why did the Scottish throw, have you ever seen the Scottish when they take

00:13:23.400 the poles and they throw the pole, you know, like the logs? Yeah. You ever seen that?

00:13:27.600 Yeah. You know why they do that? No. Because they weren't allowed to have any guns or any

00:13:32.920 swords or any weapons of any type. Because they need, the king knew these guys were fighters

00:13:40.200 and they were never going to give up. So it was illegal for any of them. So they trained

00:13:46.320 by throwing big rocks. They kept their military people strong by how far can you throw that

00:13:53.400 tree? Because you didn't have any other weapon. So you needed to be able to kill them with rocks

00:13:59.160 and with big, huge branches. I was going to guess utter boredom. No, no, no. Surprisingly,

00:14:05.580 that was, that was mine too. It was kind of like the Canadian of the sweeping on the ice.

00:14:10.780 No, this one actually had a military purpose for it.

00:14:16.580 The best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:14:25.020 Hey, it's Glenn and you're listening to the Glenn Beck Program. If you like what you're hearing

00:14:28.900 on this show, make sure you check out Pat Gray Unleashed. It's available wherever you download

00:14:34.400 your favorite podcasts. First, let me start here. So you know exactly where I'm coming from.

00:14:43.360 My church has made a proclamation called Proclamation of a Family. Now they didn't do this because they

00:14:50.500 were freaking out about what is happening right now and rushing just to say something so they could

00:14:56.380 keep their bigoted view. No, they made a proclamation to the world on the family.

00:15:04.080 And they did this in the 1990s. And quite honestly, anybody in the faith went,

00:15:08.100 duh, when it came out. Now it looks a little prophetic.

00:15:13.500 Second paragraph. All human beings, male and female, are created in the image of God.

00:15:20.860 Each is a beloved spirit, son, or daughter of heavenly parents. And as such, each has divine

00:15:27.300 nature and destiny. Gender is an essential characteristic of individual, premortal, mortal,

00:15:36.260 and eternal identity and purpose. So my faith has been teaching forever that gender is not fluid.

00:15:48.020 Gender is not a mistake. Gender is not a mistake. You are not a mistake. But now Beto and the others in

00:15:58.460 the Democratic Party would like to remove that responsibility. And if you think that it's not

00:16:04.020 happening, think again. Now I tweeted 100% support behind Beto. What is the Second Amendment for if not to

00:16:14.400 protect the First Amendment? And I said, if you want to be a parent that's more of a babysitter,

00:16:22.840 just go to Canada.

00:16:23.860 Are you a babysitter? Or are you a parent? As a parent, you get to direct the affairs and

00:16:35.880 decisions of your kids. While still respecting their basic human rights as human beings, you help

00:16:42.880 them determine their course in life, what they wear, what they don't, the beginning, what they eat,

00:16:48.300 when they sleep, the books they read, what games they play, when they get a bike, when they get their

00:16:53.520 first BB gun. It's an awesome and terrifying experience and responsibility every single minute.

00:17:02.500 And if you're a good parent, you worry all the time about that one kid that's going to come in

00:17:07.660 and influence them and steer them in another direction after all of the hard work you've done.

00:17:13.800 And then we pay a university to do it.

00:17:22.280 The responsibility of not screwing something up. And I got news for you. We all screw our kids up.

00:17:29.480 We all do. We all make mistakes. What if you let them eat too much candy? What if they sit too close

00:17:35.300 to the TV and get eye cancer? What if letting them play with your Apple Watch results in accidentally

00:17:41.440 sending dozens of pictures of your nose hairs to your PTA president?

00:17:48.140 As far as your kid is concerned, you are a bit of a benevolent dictator. At least until they get into

00:17:55.380 their teens and figure out that you're mostly full of crap, you really don't know what you're doing.

00:18:01.460 Those are fun days.

00:18:02.480 As a parent, you and your spouse run the show.

00:18:08.900 When you have a babysitter, they only have a select set of discretionary powers that you delegate to

00:18:16.540 them. They run the set of plays that you select. Feed them this. Put them in bed at nine.

00:18:24.640 Video games only after homework is done.

00:18:27.380 Babysitters, the good ones at least, simply do the list of things that you tell them to do.

00:18:33.240 They don't have any authority to engage in life-altering actions for your kids.

00:18:38.840 They are there to tend for a very short period of time.

00:18:43.800 Tend to your children, but not decide who your kids will be or how they will be raised.

00:18:49.920 School is not a babysitter.

00:18:51.800 School is not a parent.

00:19:01.020 Are we parents anymore?

00:19:04.340 Do we get to decide how and when our child develops?

00:19:08.480 Should they take the Flintstone vitamins or not?

00:19:10.820 Should they get all their vaccinations or not?

00:19:12.780 Are they ready to learn about the birds and the bees or not?

00:19:15.320 Are they mature enough to have a sleepover, to carry a cell phone, to ride bikes across Main Street,

00:19:20.120 to buy a soda at the Dairy Queen?

00:19:22.440 These choices aren't yours anymore.

00:19:24.800 You can't send your kids walking down the street just to go to Dairy Queen.

00:19:29.080 God forbid somebody sees that child and says you're an irresponsible parent.

00:19:33.880 What? They were going to the park to play.

00:19:40.760 I got so much hate mail from people.

00:19:43.820 Oh, really, what rights have I lost by living in Canada?

00:19:50.140 A lot.

00:19:51.660 What rights have I lost living in Great Britain?

00:19:56.140 A ton.

00:19:59.780 Ask Charlie Gard's parents.

00:20:01.560 The child, whom British socialized medicine, decided it was too expensive to treat for a severe disorder,

00:20:09.680 and they left him on feeding tubes to die,

00:20:12.560 despite the parents' pleas to remove him from the hospital

00:20:16.020 and take him to another country for attempts at treatment,

00:20:19.300 despite the court battles and the global press coverage.

00:20:22.280 The death panel, yes, the death panel, decided it would set a bad precedent,

00:20:28.300 and then all the parents that didn't have the chance and the choice to treat their children,

00:20:33.500 well, they might.

00:20:34.320 They might be an uprising.

00:20:37.920 Even though the children could be taken outside of the country

00:20:42.000 at zero cost to the government,

00:20:45.320 you can't allow the parents to do that.

00:20:47.580 What about in Canada, where it's considered legal child abuse

00:20:51.880 not to address your child with their preferred gendered pronoun

00:20:56.420 at any age?

00:21:01.020 Child abuse.

00:21:02.260 That's what it is in Canada now.

00:21:03.820 Child abuse that could result in your child being removed from your home

00:21:07.140 and placed in government-ordered foster care

00:21:10.000 with you in jail as if you had beaten your child with a tire iron.

00:21:15.080 The same goes for teaching your children

00:21:17.300 that homosexuality might be a sin in the eyes of God.

00:21:22.800 Also, federal offense punishable by potential jail time,

00:21:26.500 even if your religious beliefs indicate that it's a sin.

00:21:31.100 That's why my people came here to America and not to Canada.

00:21:35.860 We came here because we knew we had certain rights

00:21:39.580 that no one else guaranteed.

00:21:41.520 But our Constitution guarantees our right of freedom of religion.

00:21:48.040 How about in the EU, where parents can be fined

00:21:50.600 if it's determined that they're not giving Islam

00:21:52.780 fair and equal coverage to Christianity or Judaism

00:21:55.680 in their homeschooling program?

00:21:59.920 No matter your religious traditions, your scriptures,

00:22:02.680 if you teach your kids that Moses was a prophet,

00:22:05.340 but Mohammed was not,

00:22:06.820 in Europe, they can take your child

00:22:11.340 because you're engaging in hate speech.

00:22:14.460 The hate speech of teaching Christian theology

00:22:16.900 is being superior to Muslim theology.

00:22:19.700 Not in your own home.

00:22:21.600 Not in all of Europe.

00:22:24.140 What rights have I lost?

00:22:27.820 How about this?

00:22:29.180 Are your kids ready to learn about sex?

00:22:32.100 And at what age?

00:22:33.000 Are they, when do they learn where babies come from?

00:22:37.120 And believe me, they start asking

00:22:38.560 way before they're ready to know much detail.

00:22:42.180 Whoever invented the stork story

00:22:44.760 was genius because you do,

00:22:48.240 you can delay for a little while.

00:22:50.020 Seriously.

00:22:51.920 Parents.

00:22:53.580 Parents decide that.

00:22:55.340 And even in their own home,

00:22:56.880 each child is different.

00:22:58.740 How and when and how you have that discussion

00:23:02.500 and what you say.

00:23:04.440 Or maybe not.

00:23:05.480 Not anymore.

00:23:06.760 That ship has sailed.

00:23:08.820 After all, as parents,

00:23:10.200 we're not really parents anymore.

00:23:12.000 At least in most of the world.

00:23:13.880 Here in America,

00:23:14.980 it's holding on by a thread.

00:23:16.880 And I mean that thread is not good.

00:23:19.220 Maybe we're just all babysitters.

00:23:21.220 Maybe the government will leave us a note

00:23:23.520 on when the children should be in bed.

00:23:25.640 What we should teach.

00:23:26.600 When we should teach.

00:23:27.480 What they can watch.

00:23:28.800 What they can't watch.

00:23:31.180 In 2015,

00:23:32.180 advanced sex education

00:23:33.400 became a required curriculum

00:23:35.260 in Canadian public schools,

00:23:36.840 including primary and secondary school,

00:23:39.220 for kindergarten through 12th grade.

00:23:43.600 Announcing the controversial program,

00:23:45.820 the education minister,

00:23:48.140 named Prue,

00:23:50.060 indicated the program

00:23:51.720 would include what he turned

00:23:53.160 age-appropriate instruction

00:23:55.200 on LGBTQ and gender expression issues,

00:23:58.820 sexual orientation,

00:24:00.120 sexual assault,

00:24:01.160 as well as traditional sex education topics,

00:24:03.620 such as preventing STDs.

00:24:06.200 Although Mr. Prue acknowledged

00:24:07.780 some parents and teachers

00:24:09.020 may be opposed to this content,

00:24:12.020 the instruction is necessary,

00:24:13.740 saying, quote,

00:24:14.300 I know it's not an easy subject.

00:24:16.360 I know the questions are sensitive,

00:24:18.180 but we have to respond to a society

00:24:20.520 and a societal issue.

00:24:23.720 The new program was developed

00:24:24.960 in collaboration with sexologists,

00:24:27.020 as well as public and private organizations,

00:24:29.380 including Planned Parenthood.

00:24:31.180 When asked if parents

00:24:33.940 who objected to the content

00:24:35.220 would be allowed to opt out

00:24:36.480 of the new sex education program,

00:24:38.400 Mr. Prue indicated

00:24:39.480 such waivers would be allowed

00:24:41.240 only in exceptional cases,

00:24:43.900 such as if a student

00:24:44.940 had been the prior victim

00:24:46.420 of sexual abuse.

00:24:47.780 Other than that,

00:24:48.600 no exemptions would be allowed

00:24:50.020 for moral or religious belief.

00:24:53.640 Canada?

00:24:54.580 And all those who tweeted me,

00:24:56.340 what have I lost?

00:24:57.940 You lost it long ago,

00:24:59.440 and you probably don't care.

00:25:02.720 Americans, at least some of us,

00:25:04.700 still do.

00:25:06.080 Because we are guaranteed that right.

00:25:09.400 You never had that right.

00:25:11.180 We were guaranteed that right.

00:25:14.480 And Ben Shapiro is right.

00:25:16.060 That is the only reason

00:25:17.780 the Constitution exists,

00:25:19.600 or the government exists.

00:25:20.780 This is the only reason.

00:25:23.020 Governments are instituted among men

00:25:25.620 to protect those rights.

00:25:28.260 But that's not all.

00:25:30.220 It gets worse.

00:25:32.520 Not only in Europe,

00:25:34.420 but we'll take a look

00:25:35.580 at what's happening here as well.

00:25:38.080 And continue to ask yourself,

00:25:40.340 are you a parent,

00:25:42.000 or are you a babysitter?

00:25:43.660 This is the best

00:25:47.640 of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:25:48.680 Hey, it's Glenn.

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00:26:20.760 Beto has said

00:26:22.920 in the last few days

00:26:24.160 that if your church,

00:26:27.720 if your school

00:26:28.440 is not teaching,

00:26:30.920 you know,

00:26:31.560 gender fluidity

00:26:32.620 and everything else

00:26:33.820 that you'll be forced to

00:26:36.560 because the laws are changing.

00:26:40.240 Well, no,

00:26:40.980 you're not going to force me

00:26:42.220 because this is a,

00:26:44.380 for me,

00:26:46.400 this is a religious doctrine.

00:26:50.280 My doctrine of my church

00:26:52.280 is that,

00:26:53.100 and this wasn't just made up,

00:26:54.920 this is 30 years ago,

00:26:56.660 that gender

00:26:58.100 is

00:26:59.280 part of your identity,

00:27:03.440 of your soul.

00:27:05.840 There are no mistakes

00:27:07.440 and that male and female

00:27:09.320 are specific

00:27:11.220 and they are assigned,

00:27:14.440 you don't have to believe this,

00:27:16.360 but this is what I believe,

00:27:17.800 they are assigned

00:27:19.200 when your spirit is created.

00:27:22.680 There is no mix-up

00:27:24.380 on that.

00:27:25.100 Now, again,

00:27:27.360 you don't have to believe that,

00:27:29.520 but I have a right to say it,

00:27:31.560 I have a right to believe it,

00:27:33.120 and I have a right

00:27:34.120 to live it in public.

00:27:37.760 Now, I don't have a right

00:27:38.920 to hate people

00:27:40.440 that are different.

00:27:41.880 Well, actually, I do.

00:27:43.420 You do have a right

00:27:44.180 to be an idiot

00:27:44.900 and hate whoever you want,

00:27:47.740 but that would be idiotic.

00:27:50.780 It doesn't mean

00:27:51.300 that I hate anybody,

00:27:53.020 and I certainly am

00:27:54.160 not teaching my children

00:27:55.300 that there should be,

00:27:57.060 you know,

00:27:57.880 violence or there are

00:27:58.780 half people

00:27:59.640 or anything like that.

00:28:01.060 I don't even know

00:28:01.920 who would do that.

00:28:02.900 Well,

00:28:04.320 except for people

00:28:05.080 who believe we came

00:28:05.900 from monkeys

00:28:06.460 because there's got to be

00:28:07.540 some half people

00:28:08.540 around here,

00:28:09.780 half monkey,

00:28:10.500 half people.

00:28:11.860 After all,

00:28:12.680 it was the survival

00:28:14.520 of the fit species.

00:28:17.820 I'm not sure

00:28:18.740 which ones are fit or not.

00:28:22.940 If you think

00:28:24.060 that this isn't an issue,

00:28:27.200 Ben Shapiro was used

00:28:28.820 this weekend

00:28:29.920 as a guy who said,

00:28:31.380 I'll defend my right

00:28:32.480 and my synagogue's right

00:28:33.740 to teach

00:28:34.440 whatever it is they teach,

00:28:36.200 and if you come to my house

00:28:38.060 to take my children away

00:28:39.680 because I believe

00:28:40.840 in these things,

00:28:41.700 well, you'll meet me

00:28:42.460 at the door with a gun

00:28:43.420 because I have a right,

00:28:44.520 and the left

00:28:45.320 immediately freaked out.

00:28:46.500 See,

00:28:46.740 they all got a gun crazy.

00:28:48.000 This would be

00:28:48.640 a red flag law

00:28:49.580 if they have their way.

00:28:50.960 Ben Shapiro

00:28:51.560 would have his rights

00:28:52.680 taken from him,

00:28:54.120 but that is exactly

00:28:55.380 what the First Amendment

00:28:56.420 is for,

00:28:57.120 to defend

00:28:57.820 the First Amendment.

00:29:01.300 When the government

00:29:02.340 makes the sexual

00:29:03.620 activation

00:29:04.320 and grooming

00:29:05.620 of a 12-year-old child

00:29:07.560 as state policy

00:29:10.040 using the threat

00:29:11.080 of fines

00:29:11.740 or jail time

00:29:12.800 for parents

00:29:13.360 who may not

00:29:14.500 choose to have

00:29:15.120 their children

00:29:15.620 instructed how

00:29:16.380 to develop

00:29:16.840 sexual relationships,

00:29:18.700 your rights

00:29:19.360 as a parent

00:29:20.200 are gone.

00:29:21.780 When a state

00:29:22.700 is teaching

00:29:23.360 five- and six-year-olds

00:29:24.620 how to identify

00:29:25.480 and spell

00:29:26.300 vagina,

00:29:27.240 vulva,

00:29:27.740 anus,

00:29:28.220 penis,

00:29:28.600 instead of cat,

00:29:29.780 dog,

00:29:30.240 mom,

00:29:30.580 and dad,

00:29:31.220 your rights

00:29:31.780 as a parent

00:29:32.380 are gone.

00:29:34.400 When the state

00:29:35.340 is requiring

00:29:36.060 first-grade teachers

00:29:37.240 to read

00:29:37.840 My Princess Boy

00:29:39.420 that reads

00:29:41.020 Dyson Loves Pink

00:29:42.260 Sparkly Things,

00:29:43.100 sometimes he wears

00:29:43.940 dresses,

00:29:44.520 sometimes he wears

00:29:45.260 jeans,

00:29:45.780 he likes to wear

00:29:47.040 his princess tiara

00:29:48.720 even when climbing

00:29:49.520 trees,

00:29:50.280 he's a princess boy.

00:29:52.580 Then that is,

00:29:53.560 when that is required

00:29:54.900 for seven- and eight-year-olds

00:29:57.240 to be read,

00:29:59.120 but Huck Finn,

00:30:00.380 Catcher in the Rye,

00:30:01.520 and the Jungle Book

00:30:02.560 are all banned,

00:30:04.260 your rights

00:30:05.120 as a parent

00:30:05.920 are gone.

00:30:06.940 schools in Canada

00:30:10.620 and the UK

00:30:11.200 and increasingly so

00:30:12.560 here in America

00:30:13.300 have become nothing more

00:30:14.640 than sexual training centers,

00:30:16.820 grooming children

00:30:17.760 as young as five

00:30:18.780 and six years old

00:30:19.960 for sexually active lives,

00:30:22.420 gender fluidity,

00:30:23.780 and bisexuality.

00:30:25.360 In the name of

00:30:26.640 remaking the world

00:30:27.680 into a politically

00:30:28.700 correct safe space

00:30:30.120 for every possible

00:30:31.420 gender identity,

00:30:32.920 every sexual behavior,

00:30:34.420 and proclivity.

00:30:36.860 They have made it

00:30:38.100 the government's business

00:30:39.300 to hyper-sexualize

00:30:40.860 our children,

00:30:42.020 normalizing

00:30:43.080 ultra-rare behaviors

00:30:44.680 such as

00:30:45.380 gender dysphoria,

00:30:46.920 and they are teaching

00:30:48.000 our young children

00:30:48.980 how to develop a plan

00:30:50.260 around sexual activity

00:30:51.780 and figuring out

00:30:53.040 what could possibly

00:30:54.440 be different

00:30:55.280 and sexually pleasurable.

00:30:57.380 These lessons happen

00:30:58.700 when the kids

00:30:59.380 are pre-teens.

00:31:01.700 Well, children

00:31:02.360 are going to become

00:31:03.100 sexually active

00:31:04.260 anyway.

00:31:05.600 It's a societal problem

00:31:06.880 we have to deal with.

00:31:07.940 You're damn right.

00:31:08.960 It is 100%

00:31:10.180 a societal problem.

00:31:13.840 That's why I don't want

00:31:14.960 society fixing it.

00:31:18.240 We have a problem

00:31:19.300 in our society

00:31:20.100 when we believe

00:31:20.820 that by law

00:31:21.960 10 and 12-year-old kids

00:31:23.520 need to learn

00:31:24.760 about anal intercourse

00:31:26.740 as a way

00:31:27.700 to not get pregnant

00:31:28.860 but not abstinence.

00:31:30.220 It is a societal problem.

00:31:31.780 The problem is

00:31:34.000 that our kids

00:31:34.640 are more likely

00:31:35.440 to be exposed

00:31:36.180 to pornography

00:31:36.940 than the last generation.

00:31:39.300 They're more likely

00:31:40.260 to be bullied

00:31:41.760 if they're gay.

00:31:45.240 We have solutions

00:31:46.200 for those kinds of problems

00:31:47.380 and parents

00:31:48.280 have to do their job

00:31:49.980 in the solution.

00:31:52.580 The same as it's always been.

00:31:55.020 The problem is

00:31:56.040 we have somehow

00:31:56.580 come to believe

00:31:57.420 that the only way

00:31:58.160 to solve

00:31:58.640 any perceived ill

00:31:59.780 in the world

00:32:00.280 is for government

00:32:01.080 to act.

00:32:02.000 That is against

00:32:03.680 the Constitution.

00:32:06.200 I have rights

00:32:08.000 as a parent.

00:32:10.700 Now,

00:32:10.960 could churches

00:32:11.420 and religions

00:32:12.580 help provide

00:32:13.220 a framework

00:32:13.740 for understanding

00:32:14.560 relationships,

00:32:15.460 self-worth,

00:32:16.240 sexuality,

00:32:16.540 and love?

00:32:17.560 No!

00:32:18.500 That ghost in the sky,

00:32:20.160 he's not real.

00:32:22.560 Could parents

00:32:23.260 determine the right way

00:32:24.320 and the wrong way

00:32:25.120 to discuss sexual feelings

00:32:26.900 and urges

00:32:27.500 with their kids?

00:32:28.600 No!

00:32:31.000 Parents might make

00:32:32.000 their kids feel

00:32:32.640 uncomfortable.

00:32:33.820 Only in the scientifically

00:32:34.860 based classroom setting

00:32:36.660 can children freely

00:32:38.080 discover and express

00:32:39.180 their sexuality.

00:32:41.560 If in your state,

00:32:42.920 your province,

00:32:43.640 your country,

00:32:44.380 your local school district,

00:32:46.060 you don't have a choice

00:32:47.240 about sending your kids

00:32:48.380 into a classroom

00:32:49.160 where teachers are required

00:32:50.360 to teach this kind

00:32:51.420 of content,

00:32:52.480 don't even pretend

00:32:53.880 you have any rights

00:32:55.220 left as a parent.

00:32:56.200 Are you delusional?

00:32:57.980 Have you fallen that far

00:32:59.300 that we all somehow

00:33:00.680 believe that somehow

00:33:02.340 our duty as a citizen

00:33:04.260 is to let our children

00:33:05.640 be psychologically

00:33:06.540 and philosophically

00:33:07.900 molded

00:33:08.660 by some government

00:33:09.880 stooge

00:33:10.680 into sexually active

00:33:12.260 gender and sex orientation

00:33:13.840 fluid agents

00:33:15.260 of change?

00:33:17.180 There are children.

00:33:19.280 These are the people

00:33:20.280 we've been working

00:33:21.440 so hard to keep them

00:33:22.540 away from

00:33:23.300 their whole life.

00:33:24.300 and now they're

00:33:25.440 in a position

00:33:25.960 of authority?

00:33:29.020 I don't know about you,

00:33:30.120 but as for Mr. Shapiro,

00:33:32.420 I'm with you, Ben.

00:33:35.220 I'm with you.

00:33:38.100 Beto, don't show up

00:33:39.080 at my door

00:33:39.540 demanding my kids

00:33:40.380 learn about developing

00:33:41.460 a sexual plan

00:33:42.520 at the age of 12

00:33:43.660 because if you do,

00:33:45.700 we're going to have

00:33:46.020 a serious disagreement.

00:33:48.860 And you also have

00:33:49.860 a serious disagreement

00:33:50.940 with me and many

00:33:53.240 of my neighbors

00:33:53.820 about the Second Amendment

00:33:55.060 as well.

00:33:55.720 The Second Amendment

00:33:57.040 is not there for hunting.

00:33:58.580 It's not there for sport.

00:34:00.940 It is there to keep

00:34:02.680 tyranny at bay.

00:34:04.400 It is there for the citizens

00:34:06.340 so they have a way

00:34:08.600 to rise up

00:34:09.860 against an out-of-control

00:34:12.580 government

00:34:13.120 that wants

00:34:14.460 nothing more

00:34:15.640 than tyranny.

00:34:17.220 They want the guns

00:34:18.520 because they,

00:34:19.580 that way,

00:34:20.100 can control

00:34:21.100 the populace.

00:34:24.860 I think it was said

00:34:26.080 best by Charlton Heston,

00:34:27.900 out of my cold,

00:34:29.700 dead hands.

00:34:32.600 It is never

00:34:33.940 outrageous

00:34:34.580 or radical

00:34:35.480 to defend

00:34:36.500 the Bill

00:34:39.160 of Rights.

00:34:43.080 Don't be

00:34:44.040 a babysitter.

00:34:45.420 You are

00:34:46.020 a parent.

00:34:48.520 Do your job

00:34:52.360 and do not

00:34:53.720 surrender

00:34:54.480 this ground.

00:34:59.180 Beto,

00:34:59.880 stay out of my house.

00:35:01.300 Stay out of my

00:35:01.820 homeschool.

00:35:03.160 Stay out of my

00:35:03.740 kids' lives.

00:35:04.940 You're not welcome

00:35:05.700 there.

00:35:07.640 I'm a parent.

00:35:10.160 That's my job.

00:35:12.220 That's my wife's

00:35:13.480 job.

00:35:14.740 And we may

00:35:15.760 hire the occasional

00:35:16.760 babysitter

00:35:17.500 but believe me,

00:35:20.420 I would never

00:35:21.620 hire some

00:35:22.540 creep out of

00:35:23.500 Washington

00:35:23.880 to watch my

00:35:24.620 kids.

00:35:26.340 We're parents.

00:35:29.120 No,

00:35:29.440 no others

00:35:30.280 need apply.

00:35:34.060 This is the best

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00:35:55.320 If you haven't

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00:36:00.920 place for

00:36:02.060 thinking people.

00:36:03.000 If you don't

00:36:04.180 mind,

00:36:04.960 if you think

00:36:06.460 getting angry

00:36:07.960 at somebody

00:36:08.680 else's opinion

00:36:09.380 is the way

00:36:10.060 to go,

00:36:10.400 don't read

00:36:10.820 Quillette.

00:36:11.640 If you like

00:36:12.940 intellectual

00:36:13.660 stimulation that

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00:36:15.420 stretch and

00:36:16.080 think,

00:36:16.960 read Quillette,

00:36:17.840 Quillette.com.

00:36:19.600 Colin Wright

00:36:20.600 has just written

00:36:21.360 an article for

00:36:22.160 Quillette.

00:36:23.340 No one is born

00:36:24.540 in the wrong

00:36:25.260 body.

00:36:26.020 He's an

00:36:26.520 evolutionary

00:36:27.060 biologist.

00:36:29.120 And I'm

00:36:29.860 not sure I

00:36:30.340 understand all

00:36:31.300 of his charts

00:36:34.880 and everything

00:36:35.260 else here,

00:36:35.800 but I think I

00:36:36.340 do,

00:36:36.600 and I thought

00:36:36.920 you should

00:36:37.420 hear it too.

00:36:38.080 Colin Wright,

00:36:38.700 welcome to the

00:36:39.140 program.

00:36:40.160 Hey, thanks for

00:36:40.580 having me on.

00:36:41.060 I appreciate it.

00:36:41.700 Yeah, you bet.

00:36:42.580 So tell me

00:36:43.260 your point,

00:36:44.860 which is heresy

00:36:46.160 today.

00:36:48.100 Yeah, so I

00:36:48.980 think before we

00:36:50.100 get into sort

00:36:50.580 of what the

00:36:50.940 article is about,

00:36:52.660 it's important

00:36:53.340 to really briefly

00:36:54.220 talk about what

00:36:54.900 it's really not

00:36:55.740 about, because

00:36:56.160 many have kind

00:36:56.740 of have and

00:36:57.980 continue to

00:36:58.460 paint this as

00:36:59.080 sort of like

00:36:59.560 this anti-trans

00:37:01.000 or transphobic

00:37:01.680 article where

00:37:02.900 we suggest that

00:37:03.640 trans people

00:37:04.180 don't really

00:37:04.780 exist.

00:37:05.920 So this isn't

00:37:06.620 what we're

00:37:07.100 saying at all.

00:37:07.660 We acknowledge

00:37:08.080 gender dysphoria

00:37:08.860 is very real,

00:37:10.060 often debilitating

00:37:10.880 psychological

00:37:11.460 condition.

00:37:12.820 In serious

00:37:13.200 cases, maybe

00:37:13.900 transitioning one's

00:37:14.720 body to appear

00:37:15.340 as the opposite

00:37:15.800 sex could

00:37:17.240 probably reduce

00:37:18.240 these symptoms.

00:37:18.940 We don't deny

00:37:19.660 any of that.

00:37:21.140 What we are

00:37:21.880 concerned with,

00:37:22.780 however, though,

00:37:23.300 is that vulnerable

00:37:24.160 children who may

00:37:25.080 be displaying

00:37:25.720 sort of sex

00:37:27.260 atypical mannerisms

00:37:28.620 or personalities,

00:37:29.720 so maybe

00:37:30.060 tomboyish females,

00:37:31.920 effeminate males,

00:37:32.820 they're being told

00:37:33.440 that they maybe

00:37:35.280 have been born

00:37:36.080 in the wrong

00:37:36.540 body or are

00:37:37.380 trans, whereas

00:37:38.200 in reality,

00:37:39.360 these cross-sex

00:37:40.160 stereotypical

00:37:40.800 behaviors is

00:37:41.420 completely normal

00:37:42.140 and is far and

00:37:43.360 away more

00:37:43.680 predictive of

00:37:44.300 later homosexuality

00:37:45.680 than being trans.

00:37:46.700 So I guess

00:37:47.440 what we're saying

00:37:48.560 is that we worry

00:37:49.100 that our society

00:37:49.740 is sort of

00:37:50.140 pathologizing

00:37:51.080 gender atypical

00:37:52.360 behavior, which

00:37:53.260 is contributing

00:37:54.120 to this dramatic

00:37:54.820 rise in

00:37:55.660 adolescent gender

00:37:56.460 dysphoria that

00:37:57.060 we're seeing.

00:37:58.140 So there's a

00:37:58.460 couple of things

00:37:59.020 that come to

00:37:59.480 mind on this

00:38:00.060 and this is

00:38:02.340 the point of

00:38:03.080 when I was

00:38:04.100 introducing you

00:38:04.780 on, are we,

00:38:06.540 you know, we're

00:38:07.060 just accepting

00:38:07.900 these things and

00:38:08.980 just throwing

00:38:09.760 them in and

00:38:10.960 are we doing

00:38:11.860 more harm?

00:38:13.500 The way gender

00:38:14.940 dysphoria is

00:38:15.940 being taught

00:38:16.940 and so widely

00:38:19.060 embraced, you,

00:38:21.180 I agree with

00:38:22.080 you, I mean,

00:38:22.660 there's all kinds

00:38:23.780 of things that

00:38:24.380 happen with

00:38:24.840 our children,

00:38:25.360 but studies

00:38:26.640 show that,

00:38:28.060 what is it,

00:38:28.420 80 or 85%

00:38:29.960 of those who

00:38:31.560 are probably

00:38:33.260 now being told

00:38:34.520 have gender

00:38:35.420 dysphoria,

00:38:36.460 they grow out

00:38:37.860 of it and

00:38:38.340 either become

00:38:39.080 straight, gay,

00:38:40.260 lesbian, bisexual,

00:38:41.440 but not

00:38:41.960 transgender.

00:38:42.920 So aren't we

00:38:43.780 actually targeting

00:38:45.420 the LG and

00:38:47.680 Bs and

00:38:49.460 leading them

00:38:51.220 into saying,

00:38:52.360 no, you are

00:38:52.940 definitely a T.

00:38:54.500 Isn't that

00:38:54.960 wrong?

00:38:56.600 Yeah, I think

00:38:57.380 it's been

00:38:57.900 sort of

00:38:58.640 described as

00:38:59.540 a sort of

00:39:00.080 new conversion

00:39:01.580 therapy,

00:39:02.240 whereas in the

00:39:04.040 past, you

00:39:04.500 know, we've

00:39:04.900 been against

00:39:06.020 conversion therapy

00:39:06.920 trying to tell

00:39:07.720 homosexual youth

00:39:09.160 or even adults

00:39:09.840 that try to

00:39:10.860 convince them

00:39:11.460 out of their

00:39:12.280 same-sex

00:39:13.320 attraction.

00:39:14.480 And now what

00:39:14.920 we appear to be

00:39:15.480 doing is we're

00:39:16.020 conflating gender

00:39:17.100 atypical behavior

00:39:18.160 with being born

00:39:19.680 potentially in the

00:39:21.380 wrong body.

00:39:22.520 And so instead

00:39:23.340 of just allowing

00:39:24.260 these youth to

00:39:25.160 grow up into

00:39:25.960 what is most

00:39:27.460 likely going to

00:39:28.020 be a homosexual

00:39:28.640 adult, we're

00:39:30.060 essentially now

00:39:30.940 doing a new

00:39:32.100 form of conversion

00:39:33.360 therapy where

00:39:33.940 we're saying,

00:39:34.540 no, actually,

00:39:35.160 you have these

00:39:35.700 sex-atypical,

00:39:36.760 you know,

00:39:37.320 stereotyped behaviors.

00:39:39.760 You're maybe

00:39:40.940 more likely to be

00:39:42.120 born in the wrong

00:39:42.720 body.

00:39:43.160 So we're converting

00:39:44.600 them, homosexuals,

00:39:46.400 to trans identities

00:39:47.900 instead of out of

00:39:50.360 their homosexual

00:39:51.600 behavior as we've

00:39:55.140 done in the past.

00:39:56.000 So what's driving

00:39:56.780 this, Colin?

00:39:59.420 You know, that's

00:39:59.860 hard to say.

00:40:00.680 There's been an

00:40:01.640 uptick in sort of

00:40:03.600 gender identity

00:40:05.220 replacing our

00:40:06.360 discussions about

00:40:07.240 biological sex

00:40:08.340 almost across the

00:40:10.220 board.

00:40:10.560 So I've just been

00:40:11.380 noticing this just

00:40:12.760 in the last maybe

00:40:13.420 five years, but

00:40:14.200 just in the last

00:40:14.820 two maybe even

00:40:16.100 more prevalent

00:40:18.460 where I see

00:40:19.360 individuals, these

00:40:20.080 are academics,

00:40:20.720 these are people

00:40:22.040 who have PhDs

00:40:23.340 or are in grad

00:40:23.840 school, and

00:40:24.900 they're sort of,

00:40:27.020 I guess, having

00:40:27.960 this narrative that

00:40:28.860 biological sex is

00:40:30.300 sort of a spectrum

00:40:31.180 or it's a social

00:40:32.500 construct and that

00:40:34.120 we just need to

00:40:34.700 listen to people

00:40:35.280 what they say

00:40:36.140 about what their

00:40:36.840 biological sex

00:40:37.800 actually is.

00:40:39.040 You know, we see

00:40:39.480 this ideology of

00:40:40.740 people not being,

00:40:43.780 you know, having

00:40:44.140 their sex described

00:40:45.140 at birth, but

00:40:45.820 they're having

00:40:46.200 their sex assigned

00:40:47.220 at birth.

00:40:48.680 And sort of

00:40:49.220 this conflation

00:40:49.840 just with sex

00:40:51.860 atypical behaviors

00:40:53.000 with biological

00:40:53.820 sex itself,

00:40:54.720 whereas in reality

00:40:55.940 over 99.98%

00:40:57.760 of all individuals

00:40:59.200 are going to fall

00:40:59.980 unambiguously into

00:41:00.980 one or the other

00:41:01.980 sexes.

00:41:03.460 But this gender

00:41:04.320 sort of ideology

00:41:05.360 which has many

00:41:06.520 different definitions,

00:41:07.460 sometimes many

00:41:08.020 conflicting, and

00:41:08.840 there's many times

00:41:09.880 the definitions are

00:41:10.500 quite circular,

00:41:11.640 seems to be

00:41:12.100 taking precedence

00:41:12.840 and we're not

00:41:13.200 really, our society

00:41:14.500 is not really

00:41:14.940 prepared for what

00:41:15.900 this actually means

00:41:18.620 if we were to

00:41:19.060 replace, say,

00:41:20.260 biological sex

00:41:21.180 with this

00:41:22.680 subjective identity

00:41:24.740 in law.

00:41:25.380 We're seeing this

00:41:25.680 in sports, we're

00:41:26.400 seeing this in

00:41:26.960 the prison system,

00:41:28.760 we're seeing this

00:41:29.200 in who's admitted

00:41:30.000 to certain rape

00:41:31.360 shelters, for instance.

00:41:32.380 So the consequences

00:41:33.740 are quite dramatic

00:41:34.940 and we don't seem

00:41:35.520 to be really

00:41:35.920 appreciating that,

00:41:37.020 or at least half

00:41:37.720 of society does not

00:41:38.560 seem to be appreciating it.

00:41:39.440 Yeah, I was going

00:41:40.520 to say, there's

00:41:41.440 lots of us that

00:41:42.140 appreciate that

00:41:42.980 and are saying,

00:41:44.500 wait, wait, wait.

00:41:45.340 I mean, you're,

00:41:46.680 and what I fear,

00:41:47.760 honestly, Colin,

00:41:48.480 is a backlash

00:41:51.160 because it's starting

00:41:53.080 to affect average

00:41:54.560 people who don't

00:41:55.400 have any hatred

00:41:56.440 or anything else.

00:41:57.680 But, you know,

00:41:58.380 I've got a daughter

00:41:59.280 and she's in volleyball

00:42:00.880 and a guy, you know,

00:42:02.320 comes in volleyball,

00:42:03.820 he's just,

00:42:04.880 he's built differently.

00:42:06.520 And, you know,

00:42:08.120 or if she's a,

00:42:09.400 you know,

00:42:10.020 a runner in long distance

00:42:11.960 running or whatever,

00:42:14.420 and some guy says,

00:42:15.640 I identify as a female,

00:42:18.360 well, now he can run

00:42:19.700 on the team

00:42:20.280 and you're just,

00:42:21.380 you're hurting women.

00:42:23.820 You're hurting women.

00:42:26.360 Yeah, we're seeing

00:42:27.200 this conflation.

00:42:28.300 I've usually called it

00:42:29.540 the univariate fallacy

00:42:31.420 and it's basically

00:42:32.660 people will point

00:42:33.960 at any single trait

00:42:35.260 that exists

00:42:36.360 between males and females

00:42:37.540 and they'll show

00:42:38.140 that like,

00:42:38.480 oh, look,

00:42:38.900 there's so much overlap

00:42:40.200 in these traits

00:42:40.900 that, you know,

00:42:41.900 we can't say

00:42:42.520 that any one trait

00:42:43.560 is specifically male

00:42:45.340 or female.

00:42:46.100 So we have, you know,

00:42:46.680 males are on average

00:42:47.760 taller than females

00:42:48.740 and, but then people

00:42:50.340 will say, you know,

00:42:51.300 well, I know some woman

00:42:52.360 who's a lot taller

00:42:53.560 than most males

00:42:54.780 that I know

00:42:55.380 and so this is evidence

00:42:56.640 that there's no

00:42:57.340 real sex differences.

00:42:58.940 But the thing is

00:42:59.580 that these small differences,

00:43:01.460 these small average

00:43:02.080 differences

00:43:02.420 in many different traits,

00:43:03.400 these often stack up

00:43:04.660 as well.

00:43:05.100 So if you look at

00:43:05.940 sort of a multivariate

00:43:07.100 approach to males

00:43:08.280 and females,

00:43:08.680 we see that males

00:43:09.720 are by and large

00:43:10.700 quite different

00:43:11.740 than females,

00:43:12.340 especially in the realm

00:43:13.260 of athletics.

00:43:14.560 So you commonly hear

00:43:16.180 people say that,

00:43:16.940 you know,

00:43:17.140 males and females

00:43:17.800 come in all shapes

00:43:19.260 and sizes

00:43:19.840 or something like that

00:43:21.340 and that, you know,

00:43:21.920 we shouldn't prohibit

00:43:23.700 any male

00:43:24.400 from competing

00:43:25.180 against females

00:43:25.740 because, you know,

00:43:26.420 oh, here's an example

00:43:27.460 of a really tall female.

00:43:28.540 And that's just,

00:43:30.480 frankly,

00:43:31.500 quite absurd

00:43:32.400 because, you know,

00:43:33.460 even though females

00:43:34.480 come in,

00:43:35.700 quote-unquote,

00:43:36.060 all shapes and sizes,

00:43:37.120 it's no random chance

00:43:38.660 that no female

00:43:40.360 has come in

00:43:40.940 the size and shape

00:43:42.220 that's been able

00:43:42.700 to compete

00:43:43.140 in sort of the NBA

00:43:44.600 or the NFL.

00:43:45.240 And these are leagues

00:43:46.000 that don't actually

00:43:47.140 bar female athletes

00:43:48.260 from competing.

00:43:48.880 It's just that

00:43:49.440 no individual has ever,

00:43:51.200 no female has ever

00:43:51.880 been able to compete

00:43:52.620 in these leagues.

00:43:53.780 One quick thing

00:43:54.660 to point out, too,

00:43:55.380 is that these small differences

00:43:57.060 in just the average traits,

00:43:58.940 say, a height or strength,

00:44:00.440 even though there might

00:44:01.140 be a substantial overlap

00:44:02.280 among the general population,

00:44:04.040 when we're talking

00:44:04.600 about things like sports,

00:44:06.300 we're talking about

00:44:06.860 the extreme,

00:44:07.520 the elite of the elite.

00:44:08.740 And when you look

00:44:09.240 at the tail ends

00:44:10.200 of these distributions

00:44:11.000 of the elite of the elite,

00:44:13.560 we see that these are

00:44:14.340 way more dominated

00:44:15.580 by males,

00:44:16.540 like, proportion-wise.

00:44:18.140 So we can't look

00:44:19.180 at our everyday experience

00:44:20.220 and kind of use this

00:44:20.940 as a metric

00:44:22.460 for how the extremes

00:44:24.160 are going to behave.

00:44:25.700 Tardigall and Wright,

00:44:26.320 he's an evolutionary biologist

00:44:28.060 at Penn State,

00:44:28.900 is a piece in Quillette

00:44:29.660 is no one is born

00:44:31.020 in the wrong body.

00:44:33.160 Colin, I'm curious

00:44:34.500 to your thoughts

00:44:35.280 on being in this community,

00:44:37.120 because we hear

00:44:37.860 a lot of the experts

00:44:38.960 who would disagree with you,

00:44:41.220 who would say

00:44:41.840 the exact opposite

00:44:42.960 of everything

00:44:43.400 that you've said so far

00:44:44.440 is, you know,

00:44:45.140 when it comes to

00:44:45.880 summarizing these things.

00:44:48.680 Would you say

00:44:49.440 that it is more

00:44:50.120 of a political opposition

00:44:52.500 to what you're saying,

00:44:53.480 or is it a scientific one?

00:44:54.920 Is there a large

00:44:55.920 scientific community

00:44:57.040 that actually

00:44:57.920 does not see

00:44:59.800 these things

00:45:00.820 that I think

00:45:01.180 the average person

00:45:01.880 sees as basic

00:45:02.660 human facts of existence?

00:45:05.380 Yeah, so I do see

00:45:06.420 it as being driven

00:45:07.240 largely by politics,

00:45:10.200 at least that's

00:45:10.780 influencing

00:45:11.240 their conclusions.

00:45:13.400 I wouldn't say

00:45:14.320 that this is done

00:45:15.760 intentionally.

00:45:16.660 I don't think

00:45:17.120 these people

00:45:17.640 are being dishonest,

00:45:19.020 but I think

00:45:19.620 they may be more difficult

00:45:20.600 for them to

00:45:21.420 really spot the fallacies

00:45:22.660 in their own arguments

00:45:23.460 that they're making,

00:45:24.540 such as what I referenced

00:45:25.580 before.

00:45:26.860 You know,

00:45:27.020 sometimes people

00:45:27.520 will look at

00:45:27.940 a univariate metric

00:45:29.440 of differences

00:45:29.980 between the sexes,

00:45:30.880 and that fails

00:45:31.280 to take into account

00:45:32.860 the multiple ways

00:45:34.140 that males and females

00:45:34.980 differ.

00:45:36.080 I've tried to point

00:45:36.880 this out on,

00:45:37.540 you know,

00:45:37.760 threads on Twitter

00:45:38.400 and articles

00:45:39.140 that I'm writing,

00:45:39.820 but I haven't seen

00:45:41.200 this actually refuted

00:45:42.620 in any coherent way,

00:45:44.100 and the fallacies

00:45:47.480 pretty much just

00:45:48.340 stand for themselves,

00:45:50.180 and even if we

00:45:50.740 criticize them,

00:45:51.640 they tend not to go away,

00:45:53.120 and the main method

00:45:54.520 they seem to be using

00:45:56.160 to sort of silence

00:45:57.340 voices like mine

00:45:58.180 and others

00:45:58.600 doesn't seem to be

00:45:59.920 actually engaging

00:46:00.720 with our ideas

00:46:02.080 and the content

00:46:02.720 of what we're saying,

00:46:03.640 but it usually is

00:46:04.400 sort of just the,

00:46:06.140 you know,

00:46:06.380 you're a bigot,

00:46:07.000 you're a transphobe,

00:46:07.780 oh, look,

00:46:08.120 you're publishing

00:46:08.500 in Colette,

00:46:09.140 this is a magazine

00:46:10.920 that's known to publish,

00:46:12.180 you know,

00:46:12.460 race science,

00:46:13.280 or, you know,

00:46:13.720 whatever they want

00:46:14.360 to accuse,

00:46:15.600 just sort of a guilt

00:46:16.160 by association,

00:46:17.100 and they'll point

00:46:17.440 to some problematic figure

00:46:19.820 that might agree

00:46:20.600 with you,

00:46:21.000 and they'll say,

00:46:21.460 like, oh,

00:46:21.740 you also agree

00:46:22.700 with this one person

00:46:23.560 who's, you know,

00:46:24.940 a bad individual,

00:46:26.320 so therefore you are bad too,

00:46:27.800 so largely the silencing tactics

00:46:30.420 that are being used,

00:46:31.060 which is really

00:46:31.480 quite aggravating.

00:46:33.160 So does this make,

00:46:34.080 Colin,

00:46:34.720 your world,

00:46:35.860 I assume you always,

00:46:36.940 you grew up always

00:46:37.820 wanting to be a scientist,

00:46:39.640 does this make,

00:46:41.700 is science,

00:46:43.280 in a golden era,

00:46:46.160 or a,

00:46:47.400 or a,

00:46:48.900 you know,

00:46:49.820 not dark ages,

00:46:50.880 but headed towards

00:46:51.800 a seeming dark age,

00:46:53.120 where if you're,

00:46:54.960 if you don't agree,

00:46:56.340 you're a heretic.

00:46:59.060 Yes,

00:46:59.660 I'd hate to sort of

00:47:01.640 lump all of science

00:47:02.560 into this,

00:47:03.180 so there's certain fields

00:47:04.340 that are more plagued

00:47:05.120 by this sort of ideology

00:47:06.940 than others,

00:47:07.660 so I wouldn't,

00:47:08.160 I don't think particle physics

00:47:09.200 is particularly influenced

00:47:10.220 by gender.

00:47:11.580 But in your,

00:47:13.320 as a biologist,

00:47:14.260 as an evolutionary biologist.

00:47:16.560 Yeah,

00:47:17.020 so I definitely see it

00:47:18.520 among grad students

00:47:19.500 and even faculty,

00:47:21.300 and before,

00:47:22.640 because I published

00:47:23.060 another Quillette piece

00:47:23.960 before called

00:47:24.740 The New Evolution Deniers,

00:47:25.800 where I mentioned

00:47:26.280 similar types of things,

00:47:28.240 and I sent this

00:47:29.600 to mentors of mine,

00:47:31.340 people that I,

00:47:31.940 that I knew

00:47:32.380 sort of agreed with me

00:47:33.340 in my professional circle,

00:47:35.160 and the consensus

00:47:36.240 from basically

00:47:37.540 everyone I sent this to

00:47:38.540 was that

00:47:38.980 you're absolutely correct,

00:47:41.080 but you cannot say this,

00:47:42.680 this could be

00:47:43.720 just career suicide,

00:47:45.760 you know,

00:47:45.980 I'm a postdoc right now,

00:47:47.160 so I don't actually

00:47:47.620 have a faculty job,

00:47:48.680 I'm applying to faculty jobs,

00:47:50.340 but they told that

00:47:51.460 this could be

00:47:52.440 just suicide

00:47:53.080 for my career,

00:47:53.840 and I've spent

00:47:54.280 over a decade

00:47:54.920 of going to school

00:47:56.260 and five years

00:47:56.920 in grad school

00:47:57.440 to get my PhD,

00:47:58.420 and, you know,

00:47:59.040 this could just be made,

00:48:00.020 you know,

00:48:00.280 nullified overnight

00:48:01.220 if the mob would decide

00:48:02.300 to just, you know,

00:48:03.460 write one big hit article

00:48:04.800 where if someone

00:48:05.360 Googles Colin Wright

00:48:06.300 this, you know,

00:48:07.200 they just see

00:48:07.760 transphobe, bigot,

00:48:08.880 you know, what have you.

00:48:10.740 So it is definitely

00:48:12.020 an issue within my field.

00:48:14.040 It gets worse, I think,

00:48:15.400 when you go

00:48:15.800 to the psychological sciences,

00:48:19.360 worse when you go

00:48:20.320 to sociology,

00:48:21.780 worse when you go

00:48:22.280 down to women's studies,

00:48:23.440 et cetera, et cetera,

00:48:24.200 but these other fields

00:48:25.520 are definitely

00:48:26.200 influencing

00:48:27.860 my field, too,

00:48:30.120 and there seems

00:48:30.920 to be a sort of

00:48:31.560 almost an Orwellian

00:48:33.000 thing going on

00:48:33.720 where if we

00:48:34.500 criticize social justice,

00:48:37.100 you know,

00:48:37.300 social justice

00:48:37.900 in their minds,

00:48:38.600 a lot of people

00:48:39.320 sort of equate

00:48:40.400 that with just

00:48:42.360 civil rights,

00:48:43.280 so if you say

00:48:43.880 I'm against

00:48:44.420 this social justice

00:48:45.800 ideology,

00:48:46.440 they are here like,

00:48:47.160 oh, you're against

00:48:47.680 civil rights,

00:48:48.680 and so you really

00:48:49.360 can't win.

00:48:50.360 It's almost, you know,

00:48:50.920 you think I disagree

00:48:51.640 with the, you know,

00:48:53.040 the Department of Truth.

00:48:54.480 It's like, well,

00:48:54.820 they disagree with truth,

00:48:56.100 so there's sort of

00:48:56.680 this language game

00:48:57.420 going on where it's

00:48:58.180 hard to actually engage

00:48:59.820 with ideas without

00:49:01.140 immediately being

00:49:01.720 just painted as a bigot

00:49:03.220 in any way they want to

00:49:04.220 so they can dismiss you.

00:49:05.620 Quickly,

00:49:06.180 because I've only got

00:49:06.620 a few seconds,

00:49:07.340 but what made you decide

00:49:08.340 just to do it anyway?

00:49:09.980 Mainly because I've

00:49:10.780 always been interested

00:49:11.540 in sort of the larger

00:49:13.360 sort of meta-narrative

00:49:15.460 around science

00:49:16.640 and defending science.

00:49:17.720 I used to defend

00:49:18.520 evolution from

00:49:19.660 the young Earth creationists

00:49:20.720 back in the mid

00:49:21.740 to late 2000s,

00:49:22.780 and I just realized

00:49:23.900 how much I kept

00:49:24.580 sort of self-censoring

00:49:25.540 as I went through

00:49:26.200 graduate school

00:49:26.980 and after,

00:49:29.080 and I got to a point

00:49:29.820 where I realized

00:49:30.380 that I just,

00:49:31.120 I'd much rather live

00:49:32.400 a life where I can

00:49:33.520 speak my mind freely

00:49:34.880 than sort of lived

00:49:36.580 sort of this

00:49:37.120 zipper-lipped life

00:49:38.080 as an academic

00:49:38.840 and just go this

00:49:41.460 one route

00:49:41.820 where I can just

00:49:42.300 study my ants

00:49:43.540 and wasps

00:49:44.040 and my narrow field

00:49:45.440 but have to remain

00:49:46.520 silent on everything else.

00:49:47.720 So that wasn't

00:49:48.160 something I was

00:49:49.400 willing to sacrifice,

00:49:50.240 I suppose.

00:49:50.740 Good for you.

00:49:51.080 Good for you, Colin Wright,

00:49:52.360 evolutionary biologist.

00:49:54.080 The Quillette piece

00:49:55.380 is called

00:49:55.860 No One is Born

00:49:57.120 in the Wrong Body.

00:49:58.740 You can follow him

00:49:59.680 on Twitter

00:50:00.120 at SwipeWright

00:50:01.700 spelled with a W.

00:50:03.440 Thank you so much, Colin.

00:50:04.400 Appreciate it.

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Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Colin Wright ｜ 10⧸14⧸19

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