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On today's show, Glenn Beck and Dallas Jenkins talk about the Lakin and Rylee Riley case and why it feels different when the judge says "guilty, guilty, guilty" than when the jury says "not guilty." They also discuss why Thanksgiving is so important.
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We talk about Lake and Riley and why that feels different when the judge said guilty, guilty, guilty.
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And we also then go into our Thanksgiving message.
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And so I wanted to talk to you about why Thanksgiving is so important.
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He's the creator and the director of The Chosen.
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But he's got a new movie out called The Best Christmas Pageant Ever.
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Okay, so yesterday, the judge found Lakin Riley's murderer guilty on all charges.
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Now, listen to this, but I want you to listen to this and notice your reaction to it.
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But listen to this and notice your reaction to it.
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Count one, malice murder, I find the defendant guilty.
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Count two, felony murder, I find the defendant guilty.
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Count three, felony murder, I find the defendant guilty.
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Count four, felony murder, I find the defendant guilty.
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Count five, kidnapping with bodily injury, I find the defendant guilty.
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Count six, aggravated assault with intent to rape, I find the defendant guilty.
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Count seven, aggravated battery, I find the defendant guilty.
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Count eight, obstructing or hindering a 911 call, I find the defendant guilty.
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Count nine, tampering with evidence, I find the defendant guilty.
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Count ten, peeping Tom, I find the defendant guilty.
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I'm happy that justice is at some level hitting this guy, but more just anger about how unnecessary it all was.
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You know, the fact that he got on a free flight to go to Georgia in the first place.
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Yeah, I know. The Biden administration put him on one of those ghost flights in the middle of the night so he could live in Georgia.
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And, you know, she's just one prominent example.
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First, emotional because you can hear the parents gasp and cry in the back.
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All this bullcrap of, oh, these poor immigrants that have come in.
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This guy was in the Venezuelan gang and so was his brother.
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He tried to get off saying, it was my brother, not me.
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DNA can't really tell between me and my brother.
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And the reason why they had DNA is because it was under her fingernails as she scraped his arms, his face, and his back.
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And they had pictures of the claw marks that she left on him.
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Because the prosecutor, which was a Soros prosecutor, said that's not real justice.
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This new prosecutor, because I don't know if you know this, that prosecutor lost, I think, by 17 points.
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Now, there are some states now that are saying, you know what?
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These people are so lacking of any kind of principles.
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Just a few, what, a month ago, two months ago, all of the cities, all of the people in the cities, from San Francisco to New York, were saying, this is going to collapse our city.
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We can't handle all of these people that have come across the borders.
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New York was taking people and sending them from New York to Texas because they just couldn't handle it.
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How dare the big bad government come in and try to take, we're just going to cuddle these people.
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And I hope that the president finds the constitutionally legal way to cut you off from every funding.
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Then your city doesn't get any federal dollars.
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You're costing us money because you're going to ask for a federal bailout.
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And the other part of that should be, you're not getting one.
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I think California is the most beautiful state in the union.
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I've always, since a kid, I've always wanted to live in California.
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The reason why I don't is because they're insane.
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And I know that I'll be impoverished in the end by it.
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So I don't live in California because you want your California.
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I live in Texas because I would like to be, have California more like Texas, but it's not.
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So I live in Texas because I know the state won't impoverish me.
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I know the state won't take all of my rights away from me.
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And if you want to keep criminals in your state, if you want to coddle those people, that's totally fine with me.
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But I honestly believe maybe we should check your passports when you come across the border of California or New York.
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Because if they leave those states, they should be arrested and deported.
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And I don't want any of them moving into my city or my state.
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But they're going to eventually and your people eventually are going to move to my state and they're going to vote for the same damn things because they're too stupid to understand what caused their state to become like that.
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I think, too, and I know you say this, you know, you want to deal with these people fine.
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I mean, this is the left that prevented states like Arizona from implementing and enforcing immigration law because this has to be done at the federal level.
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Well, hopefully Trump's about to show you what that looks like.
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So he will, I think, overrule and overrun some of these people who are trying to avoid the law in their local jurisdictions.
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You know, Glenn, one of the most frustrating things about the Lake and Riley thing is we talk about the borders being open, people flowing over all the time.
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And obviously, the border at times can be difficult to protect completely.
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People are going to get across it at some level.
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This isn't an example of a guy sneaking across the border.
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He got arrested multiple more times while he was here.
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We still put him up in the Roosevelt Hotel with free lodging.
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And then we sent him to Georgia with a free flight.
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And then, after all of that, he murdered this poor woman.
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It's not even a case where, like, okay, this is difficult.
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By the way, have you heard that the DOJ has just put a paper shredder truck outside of the FBI office?
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I swear to you, if they shred anything that we need and they're like, we lost it, we shredded it, we don't know what happened to it, put them in jail.
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It is time that we say to this government, enough is enough.
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And that includes all of this red tape bull crap.
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Not through some bureaucrat that we don't even know who they are.
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By the way, the House Ethics Committee has decided not to release the Gates investigation.
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I don't know if Matt Gates is guilty or innocent of what they accuse him of.
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But just like Brett Kavanaugh, this smearing of people has got to stop.
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Make sure he has a fair trial and let the chips fall where they may.
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Because they know that the people who are including the women, they know that they are not trustworthy.
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The DOJ, this is the biggest opponent of the DOJ.
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So, all of a sudden, the DOJ finds these accusations.
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And if you don't have enough to charge him, then you shut your mouth.
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Now, you might continue to investigate, but you shut your mouth.
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We're not a country that should allow for another day the smearing of individuals based on stuff that is not chargeable.
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They've made this guy practically into a pedophile.
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Well, where do you go to get your reputation back?
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Because if they can do it to him, they'll do it to you.
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Now, he may not be—I don't think he is a saint.
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But once somebody is charged, not investigated, charged, if this—the Democrats or some of the sleazy Republicans decide to release this, all of those people should either be impeached or we should primary them.
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But wouldn't you rather have one bad guy get away than one good person get smeared and their life destroyed?
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I'm actually wanting to write down what you were just talking about.
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I'm telling you, every school should have these things.
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We were, you know, nobody wants to arm teachers.
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If you put your hand around the corner outside the door and somebody's in the hallway, yes, kids will be hit with tear gas, but nobody will die.
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I'm literally going, I'm going to get this for my home.
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I'm looking at you and you're a handsome guy, but behind you is this big picture where you look phenomenal.
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And it's, and it's like, it's not good for you to put it right behind you because then I'm like, wow, that's, wait a second.
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Like you're, you're like, you know, again, you look good in person too, but that's you happy and rugged and handsome.
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So, uh, uh, so tell me, tell me the, the story of the film best Christmas pageant ever.
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I have, I have to admit to you, I have not seen it.
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I've had others who have seen it and just rave about it.
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This is before you ever sent me anything or, you know, what's going to become, I didn't know who it was.
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And I watched the trailer and I'm like, this looks fantastic.
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And I really think, uh, you and I've talked before.
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I read this book almost 20 years ago to my kids.
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My wife brought it home and the first couple chapters I'm reading it.
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I read it in public school, which is why I was so surprised by what happened when I read it again, uh, to my kids.
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It's very witty, very nostalgic, just a terrific story.
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And I get to the last chapter and I'm going, I didn't remember how Jesus-y this was.
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We got away with reading this in public school.
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But, um, but anyway, the first, um, the story is the six Herdman kids, the worst kids in the world, the ones that everyone is looking down on.
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But, uh, this, uh, she captures, it feels very real.
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It's, you remember the movie, A Christmas Story?
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But in this case, um, these six kids, they're, they're, they're on the wrong side of the tracks.
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And, uh, this church in this town, uh, don't want them around.
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And they hijack the town's Christmas pageant and they take over the roles.
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They bully the other kids into saying, we're going to play these roles of Mary and Joseph.
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So, of course, everyone's scandalized and thinks it's going to be the worst Christmas pageant ever.
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And, and, and so much like Mary and Joseph, like you can't have this awful girl playing the Mother Mary.
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Mother Mary is beautiful and sweet and pretty and always looks clean.
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So they get to the performance of the pageant and not, I don't want to give anything away.
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Of course, it is called the best Christmas pageant ever.
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My kids are looking at me like, what is going on?
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And my wife, Amanda, goes, all right, give me the book.
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We're passing the book back and forth to each other while the other one recovers.
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The story is just so beautiful because it's because of these kids' poverty, because of their outsider status.
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They're actually closer to the heart of the true story than anyone else is.
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And so it ends up transforming this town and the town, of course.
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So, so everyone is learning something new because these kids have never heard the story before.
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I thought it was that the people that were helping the kids actually kind of changed the kids to have those kids transform the rest.
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The church learns from these outsiders because we've taken for granted the Christmas story and the Christmas pageants.
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And we think of the sweet little nativity and the halo around everyone's head.
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And these kids are going, wait a minute, why wouldn't they let a pregnant woman into the inn?
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And they're asking all these questions that we take for granted.
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And so their perspective on the story is just closer to the truth of it because of their unique perspective and outsider status.
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And it's, there's a very common, a connective thread between that and the chosen.
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My passion has always been, and we've talked about this before.
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I'm like, I'm taking, I'm taking Jesus and the apostles down from stained glass windows, down from the pretty paintings that we've seen and trying to give you the most accurate, direct portrayal of the humanity of these people and their true story.
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And that's what really stood out to me about the best Christmas pageant ever.
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Now it's, it's funny, it's witty, it's a, it's a, it's a traditional Christmas classic, but it's got this, it's, it's probably the only of the, of the movies that I would consider to be Christmas classics.
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And hopefully this becomes one of them that really does put a spotlight on the true story of Jesus, but in a fun way.
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It's, it's, it's, it's amazing to me how snotty Christians can get.
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And maybe it's because they either, they either didn't have that kind of experience or didn't need the redemption of Christ as much as others do.
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But the, you know, Christ came for, for the ones that needed redemption.
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And we all need it, but needed the redemption really badly.
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Yeah, he's saying, I came for the sick, not for the healthy.
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And there's a line in the trailer and in the movie where the mom who's volunteering to do this pageant, everyone in the church is telling her, no, just get rid of the Herdmans.
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We need to protect our sacred Christmas pageant.
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And at one point her daughter says, shouldn't we just get rid of them?
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You know, and she says, I think that would contradict the whole point of the story.
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And she says, the point of the story is that Jesus came for the Herdmans as much as he came for you and me.
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He was, everybody in that story was rejected and despised.
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And there's also a moment where the Herdmans walk out on stage and they are, they're wearing the clothes they cobbled together at home to portray Mary and Joseph instead of the pretty costumes that were given to them by the church.
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Right. And one of the girls in the choir who's against them goes, look at them.
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And the main characters looking at them, she goes, yeah, they do.
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And she's smiling going, this is what Mary and Joseph were.
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So it's those kinds of moments that unlike, again, some of these other Christmas classics that I love, you know, Elf and Christmas Story and some of these Home Alone, they're all great.
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But this is a movie that has all those elements of humor and whatnot.
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But then there's these moments where you go, oh, my goodness, that is the true story.
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And I think to your point about Christians and those of us, especially here in America, I think sometimes we – it's not that we need redemption less.
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If anything, we need it more, but it's our awareness of our need, which sometimes goes away when you are living comfortably.
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Comfort can oftentimes cause you to take for granted what – who came for us not comfortable.
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Jesus was born into a stable, into a rough environment, on the run, hiding, outsiders, refugee, all that stuff.
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He came as a suffering servant, not as a conquering king.
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Yeah, and it's remarkable to me, the best Christians – I put a few people like Billy Graham into other categories, but the best Christians that I have met, regular people, are those people usually from the Middle East or from China.
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The ones who are just like, oh, they have to know God because it's literally all that gets them through their day.
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Oh, yeah. I have a friend who runs this ministry called World Relief, and he said, the church in Iran is cool, man.
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He's like, they just – he's like, they're like, we just had another great bombing.
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And they're like, what? Like, we had a bombing of one of our churches.
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We've never been closer to God. We've never been more desperate for him.
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We've never – and I'm like, man, I hope – I wish I could reach that level of passion and desperation without needing to be in oppressed form.
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I went to Iraq years ago, and we were rescuing the Yazidis, and I was supposed to come pick them up, and then we're going to take them to some other country in Europe.
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And so when I get on the plane in New York, I'm told you may not be able to go see them because ISIS has just targeted the church at the time you're supposed to arrive, and they're having a final service.
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And so I'm on the plane wondering, I mean, what am I going to do when we get there?
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And I get there, and they say – I said, so where are we meeting?
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And then halfway through church, Russia said that they were going to start bombing that city.
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And I'm laughing just because it's like, this is not something we think about in America.
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And I'm like, should we all maybe – is there a shelter around here?
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And they said to me, oh, if we die, we're with God.
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And so that's the kind of thing I'm hoping, not only that it reaches me, but the viewer.
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When I do the shows and when I do a movie like Best Christmas Pageant Ever, it's can
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we somehow remove these – sometimes it's religion, sometimes it's our sins, sometimes
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it's our art that gets us further away from that – what actually happened and from that
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And so, yes, in this case, it's wrapped in a fun, PG-rated Christmas movie, but it's
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all the same intention of, man, I'd love to get that level of direct connection, so connected
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to Jesus that everything around you is irrelevant.
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I mean, I've been fighting Santa, not in a – I didn't want to be that bad dad that's
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You know, I had fun as a kid with Santa, but I – it was a different culture.
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The culture said Christmas was about Jesus, not Santa, and Santa was just the fun part.
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And it is so important, and this is a fun way to bring your kids to the true story of
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Are you going to release it on video on demand before Christmas or not?
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But I do hope that people go see it in theaters now.
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We want it to last in theaters as long as possible, but yes, eventually, shortly before
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Yeah, I will tell you that the – it speaks a lot.
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But there seems to be this reaction of like, wow, this movie does take me to where Christmas
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should be about, and it's been a really, really cool experience to see the reaction.
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We're with Dallas Jenkins, creator-director of The Chosen, and the new movie, Must See,
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It will be great to kick off the holiday and kind of also remind us, hey, God just played
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So, you were probably just, you remember Reagan, clearly.
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I mean, Back to the Future, one of my all-time favorite movies came out in November 5th,
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I mean, of course, Rocky IV, the movie that ended the Cold War.
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I mean, that's how you set those timelines in your life.
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So, there was a guy that I don't know if you would have remembered.
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He was a comedian, and he came from around the Iron Curtain.
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And he and his family got out of the former Soviet Union.
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He became a huge hit at the time because we really didn't see former Soviet citizens, and
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I just saw something from him the other day about Thanksgiving.
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I don't know if I even saw it in 1985, but it's worth listening to.
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Here he is, Yakov Smirnoff, just fresh from the Soviet Union, talking about Thanksgiving.
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It's Thanksgiving, and I'll tell you, it's my favorite holiday.
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When I first was explaining about Thanksgiving in America, I said, wait a minute, it doesn't
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I mean, for every freedom and all the opportunities that you got here, the only thing you got to
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My parents and I had our first Thanksgiving dinner in a little apartment in New York.
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And we joined hands, and my father said a prayer to good food and our health.
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Instead of releasing our hands, we couldn't let go.
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We kept holding on to each other tighter and tighter, and we realized we were together, and
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And here we were, three grown people looking for a way we could possibly show our appreciation,
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If you're watching it, you can see that he tears up at the end.
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And we have lost, we've lost that, the deep, deep gratitude for our lives.
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Um, I have felt it over the last year, unlike I've ever felt gratitude for my freedom, my
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Uh, and, and now, especially after the election, you know, God, miracles can happen in your life
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Eh, is it a chance encounter, or is that an answer to a prayer?
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Miracles come when there's really no other explanation.
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When something that just, you all have agreed that just can't happen, happens.
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Donald Trump, getting shot at, so close that the camera picks the bullet up, speeding toward
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his head, and just before it goes into his head, he moves his head in a way he never does
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before, and it clips his ear instead of going right into the temple.
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To have a politician or a guy who is constantly beat on, constantly smeared, had more investigations
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done on him than I, and I believe this to be true.
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Somebody who had more investigations, more spies on him, more, you know, going through the
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trash and everything else, more than anyone else in human history by far, because every
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And then they went back and said, there's got to be something else.
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For him to just continue to stand, and then when somebody tries to kill him, his first response
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And then for him not to be angry, but instead to be humbled, what are the odds there?
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For him to continue to go on, and in fact, continue to stand, do you know, his plane was targeted.
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We know that there are surface-to-air missiles.
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We know that he was going to be targeted by foreign entities that are here.
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For him to get on, just get on his plane every time, the man knew he was risking his life.
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For him to run the campaign that he ran in the last eight months, you remember what it was like?
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It was all, you know, they're after me and all of this stuff, because they were after him.
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But should you notice, after the assassination attempt, when he could have said, ah, instead,
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he had a much more uniting message, and a happier message, and a positive message,
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and then for all of these people to come out of the woodwork and start to say, you know what?
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I heard more talk from people who are not Christians.
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More talk from people going, there is something seriously wrong, and I think it's evil, what's going on.
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I've been doing this for 50 years on the radio, almost 50 years.
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I've been doing this, warning people for 24 years.
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We wrote that theme four years ago, because if you don't stand up, we're done.
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And we put that on, and I tried to make that an encouraging thing to convince people, you've got to stand up.
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After 24 years of the same message coming from me in different ways, where I had lost hope.
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I mean, I said to you all last year, we've got to find God.
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We've got to be people where God thinks, you know what?
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I said to you over and over again, I can come up with a million ways this is going to go wrong,
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but there's only one path for it to succeed, and that is God.
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With everything that we do, for as big as a miracle that is, I think a lot of people, I mean, I heard it right after the election.
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Next week, will we even remember it by next Thursday?
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Or will we make the holiday that was built to humble ourselves and to thank God for our blessings?
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Stu, would you agree one of the biggest miracles you've seen in your life for America?
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I mean, that was a miracle that that happened in the way that it did.
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You know, for the first time ever, the GOP was serious on their ground game.
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I thought you were just referring to him turning his head.
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And that, all of that, from that moment on, all of that was a miracle.
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You know, I heard somebody say to me on election day, I feel really good.
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Why would he, recognizing the miracle of the assassination attempt,
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why would he save Donald Trump only to not save it now?
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If Donald Trump would have won in 2020, it would have been more of the first term.
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We wouldn't get the reduction of the government.
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We wouldn't get possibly the closing down of some agencies,
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Remember, they didn't start cutting our children until the Biden administration.
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None of us had any idea about all this transgender stuff,
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it wasn't being done at least as openly, but it was all set to go.
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And then when we said, what the hell is all this?
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It took us three years before the doctors even started to turn.
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There really, my father used to say this to me,
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It's what do you do with the bad things that happened to you?
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You can either wallow in and say, oh, that was bad.
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How can I take that and turn that into a blessing?
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COVID was a blessing in the end because it woke people up.
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It's just I have facial surgery again because I guess I'm out of room on my face for more cancer.
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So they got to take some cancer off my face so I can grow new cancer.
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But this is my last chance to talk to you before Thanksgiving.
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And this is my last chance before Thanksgiving.
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One that I saw in North Carolina where people were standing because God told them,
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come from across the country, I know you don't know anybody.
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I know you don't think you're going to be able to make a difference.
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And they got in their cars and they drove across the country.
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And those people were put to work in ways that I couldn't have served.
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Please, please, even if it is just holding the hands around the table,
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there is nothing that we can say to him more meaningful than just,
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Thank you for letting us live at this time to be in your service.