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00:00:30.000 Hey, today's podcast is really, really good.

00:00:32.360 We talk about Lake and Riley and why that feels different when the judge said guilty, guilty, guilty.

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00:00:51.960 And Dallas Jenkins joins us.

00:00:54.020 He's the creator and the director of The Chosen.

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00:02:31.220 Okay, so yesterday, the judge found Lakin Riley's murderer guilty on all charges.

00:02:46.980 Now, listen to this, but I want you to listen to this and notice your reaction to it.

00:02:54.280 Maybe it's just me.

00:02:55.820 I don't know.

00:02:56.500 But listen to this and notice your reaction to it.

00:02:59.000 Go ahead.

00:02:59.260 Count one, malice murder, I find the defendant guilty.

00:03:05.360 Count two, felony murder, I find the defendant guilty.

00:03:10.580 Count three, felony murder, I find the defendant guilty.

00:03:15.740 Count four, felony murder, I find the defendant guilty.

00:03:20.360 Count five, kidnapping with bodily injury, I find the defendant guilty.

00:03:25.460 Count six, aggravated assault with intent to rape, I find the defendant guilty.

00:03:33.040 Count seven, aggravated battery, I find the defendant guilty.

00:03:39.080 Count eight, obstructing or hindering a 911 call, I find the defendant guilty.

00:03:47.800 Count nine, tampering with evidence, I find the defendant guilty.

00:03:51.640 Count ten, peeping Tom, I find the defendant guilty.

00:03:59.200 What are you feeling?

00:04:01.740 Could just be me. What are you feeling?

00:04:05.160 What am I feeling? Am I hearing that?

00:04:07.380 I'm happy that justice is at some level hitting this guy, but more just anger about how unnecessary it all was.

00:04:16.340 You know, the fact that he got on a free flight to go to Georgia in the first place.

00:04:21.480 Yeah, I know. The Biden administration put him on one of those ghost flights in the middle of the night so he could live in Georgia.

00:04:30.540 Yeah.

00:04:30.800 And it cost this poor woman her life. 0.99

00:04:33.780 And, you know, she's just one prominent example.

00:04:37.300 This story has been told way too many times.

00:04:39.200 Here's what I feel.

00:04:47.660 First, emotional because you can hear the parents gasp and cry in the back.

00:04:54.120 And happy for them, sad at the waist.

00:04:57.940 But also, we're not going to take it anymore.

00:05:06.580 Justice is back.

00:05:08.820 That makes me feel good.

00:05:12.780 All this bullcrap of, oh, these poor immigrants that have come in. 1.00

00:05:18.340 They're not all bad. 0.96

00:05:19.700 This guy was in the Venezuelan gang and so was his brother.

00:05:23.040 And you know how he tried to get off?

00:05:25.180 He tried to get off saying, it was my brother, not me.

00:05:28.180 And his brother was like, no, it wasn't me.

00:05:30.240 It was my brother.

00:05:30.980 It was basically a version of the OJ defense.

00:05:33.980 Yes.

00:05:34.340 DNA can't really tell between me and my brother.

00:05:36.580 My brother.

00:05:36.940 Yeah.

00:05:37.280 Right.

00:05:37.660 And the reason why they had DNA is because it was under her fingernails as she scraped his arms, his face, and his back.

00:05:46.360 And they had pictures of the claw marks that she left on him.

00:05:52.120 So justice is served.

00:05:55.180 Now, here's the other thing.

00:05:58.280 He's not going to get the death penalty.

00:06:00.980 Maybe life in prison, no chance of parole.

00:06:03.220 But I don't even trust that stuff.

00:06:05.900 He's not going to get the death penalty.

00:06:07.520 Why?

00:06:08.940 Because the prosecutor, which was a Soros prosecutor, said that's not real justice.

00:06:17.060 Now, they're talking about reversing that.

00:06:23.780 This new prosecutor, because I don't know if you know this, that prosecutor lost, I think, by 17 points.

00:06:30.980 It's over.

00:06:32.820 It's over.

00:06:34.840 Now, there are some states now that are saying, you know what?

00:06:38.360 This drives me out of my mind.

00:06:40.260 These people are so lacking of any kind of principles.

00:06:44.820 They change with the wind.

00:06:47.600 There are no principles.

00:06:49.120 Just a few, what, a month ago, two months ago, all of the cities, all of the people in the cities, from San Francisco to New York, were saying, this is going to collapse our city.

00:07:00.780 We can't handle all of these people that have come across the borders. 1.00

00:07:05.460 They were sending them to Texas.

00:07:09.000 New York was taking people and sending them from New York to Texas because they just couldn't handle it.

00:07:17.960 Like, Texas could.

00:07:19.360 Okay?

00:07:19.520 Now, they've all changed overnight now.

00:07:25.140 Oh, we're going to protect these people.

00:07:27.440 How dare the big bad government come in and try to take, we're just going to cuddle these people. 0.87

00:07:31.840 It's over, gang.

00:07:35.300 It's over.

00:07:37.260 And I hope that the president finds the constitutionally legal way to cut you off from every funding.

00:07:46.960 You want to play that game?

00:07:48.800 Fine.

00:07:49.680 Then your city doesn't get any federal dollars.

00:07:52.540 You want to do that?

00:07:53.740 That's fine.

00:07:54.380 Because you're costing all of us.

00:07:57.400 You're costing us money because you're going to ask for a federal bailout.

00:08:01.960 And the other part of that should be, you're not getting one.

00:08:05.760 California, you want to play this game?

00:08:08.020 We're not going to pay for it.

00:08:10.700 I love California.

00:08:12.320 I think California is the most beautiful state in the union.

00:08:17.880 I've always, since a kid, I've always wanted to live in California.

00:08:21.920 The reason why I don't is because they're insane. 0.98

00:08:26.100 They're insane. 0.97

00:08:28.060 I don't want to live with the insanity. 0.90

00:08:29.820 And I know that I'll be impoverished in the end by it.

00:08:33.960 And so will all of my neighbors.

00:08:35.860 I don't want to live in that.

00:08:39.040 So I don't live in California because you want your California.

00:08:43.900 I live in Texas because I would like to be, have California more like Texas, but it's not.

00:08:51.000 So I live in Texas because I know the state won't impoverish me.

00:08:55.900 I know the state won't take all of my rights away from me.

00:08:58.840 I know they won't coddle criminals.

00:09:02.680 So I live in Texas.

00:09:05.120 Don't you dare come for a handout from me.

00:09:07.980 You made your bed.

00:09:11.940 You pay for it.

00:09:14.040 And if you want to keep criminals in your state, if you want to coddle those people, that's totally fine with me.

00:09:22.240 But I honestly believe maybe we should check your passports when you come across the border of California or New York.

00:09:30.320 Are you here legally?

00:09:33.080 Because if they leave those states, they should be arrested and deported.

00:09:37.720 And I don't want any of them moving into my city or my state. 1.00

00:09:43.380 But they're going to eventually and your people eventually are going to move to my state and they're going to vote for the same damn things because they're too stupid to understand what caused their state to become like that. 0.99

00:09:54.300 I got to get to Florida. 1.00

00:09:56.080 Why are there no progressives we can vote for?

00:10:00.280 Because you haven't wrecked it yet.

00:10:02.360 I think, too, and I know you say this, you know, you want to deal with these people fine.

00:10:09.180 In reality, of course, I know we have to.

00:10:11.720 It is a federal issue.

00:10:13.940 I mean, this is the left that prevented states like Arizona from implementing and enforcing immigration law because this has to be done at the federal level.

00:10:22.780 Well, hopefully Trump's about to show you what that looks like.

00:10:25.920 Yep.

00:10:26.720 And it should be done at the federal level.

00:10:29.040 So he will, I think, overrule and overrun some of these people who are trying to avoid the law in their local jurisdictions.

00:10:40.160 And he should do that.

00:10:41.940 You know, Glenn, one of the most frustrating things about the Lake and Riley thing is we talk about the borders being open, people flowing over all the time.

00:10:48.120 And that is awful.

00:10:49.780 And obviously, the border at times can be difficult to protect completely.

00:10:55.420 People are going to get across it at some level.

00:10:58.140 But we caught this guy.

00:11:00.180 This isn't an example of a guy sneaking across the border.

00:11:03.680 We caught him.

00:11:05.300 And then put him on a plane.

00:11:06.140 And then released him into the country.

00:11:08.400 He got arrested multiple more times while he was here.

00:11:12.300 Yep.

00:11:12.560 We still gave him a free flight.

00:11:14.260 We still put him up in the Roosevelt Hotel with free lodging.

00:11:18.600 And then we sent him to Georgia with a free flight.

00:11:21.440 He got arrested there with his brother.

00:11:24.220 We still kept releasing him.

00:11:26.000 And then, after all of that, he murdered this poor woman.

00:11:32.020 It's not even a case where, like, okay, this is difficult.

00:11:35.660 I get that.

00:11:36.260 That can happen.

00:11:37.460 This one's not.

00:11:38.300 This is not what that is.

00:11:39.460 No, this one's not.

00:11:40.100 And it happens over and over and over again.

00:11:41.260 And, God, if we could just stop some of those.

00:11:44.000 Yeah.

00:11:44.740 Talking about standing up.

00:11:46.360 Maybe we could at least stop some of those.

00:11:48.140 We are going to.

00:11:49.540 We are going to.

00:11:50.780 That's what we voted for.

00:11:52.740 We voted for an end of all of this.

00:11:55.080 By the way, have you heard that the DOJ has just put a paper shredder truck outside of the FBI office?

00:12:04.060 I swear to you, if they shred anything that we need and they're like, we lost it, we shredded it, we don't know what happened to it, put them in jail.

00:12:14.360 Don't fire them.

00:12:15.860 Put them in jail.

00:12:18.300 It is time that we say to this government, enough is enough.

00:12:25.220 We're going to live by the laws of the land. 0.98

00:12:28.800 And that includes all of this red tape bull crap. 0.98

00:12:35.800 All of it. 0.98

00:12:37.980 You want that law? 0.78

00:12:39.580 Pass it through Congress.

00:12:41.260 Not through some bureaucrat that we don't even know who they are.

00:12:44.800 We never voted for them.

00:12:46.020 Why do they rule over our life?

00:12:49.280 By the way, the House Ethics Committee has decided not to release the Gates investigation.

00:12:56.120 Okay.

00:12:56.620 At least temporarily.

00:12:57.860 They're not sure.

00:12:59.280 Because it's not finished.

00:13:01.880 Now, the DOJ finished it over two years ago.

00:13:05.900 Okay.

00:13:06.820 This has got to stop.

00:13:09.200 I don't know if Matt Gates is guilty or innocent of what they accuse him of.

00:13:14.720 I have no idea.

00:13:16.840 But just like Brett Kavanaugh, this smearing of people has got to stop.

00:13:24.100 If he's guilty, charge him.

00:13:27.460 Make sure he has a fair trial and let the chips fall where they may.

00:13:33.480 But they won't charge.

00:13:35.280 They're not charging.

00:13:36.520 Because they know that the people who are including the women, they know that they are not trustworthy. 0.98

00:13:45.560 The DOJ, this is the biggest opponent of the DOJ.

00:13:50.880 He's got real teeth on the DOJ.

00:13:54.140 So, all of a sudden, the DOJ finds these accusations.

00:14:00.240 Okay.

00:14:01.020 All right.

00:14:02.100 Maybe he did them.

00:14:03.740 Then investigate.

00:14:05.520 And if you don't have enough to charge him, then you shut your mouth.

00:14:10.580 Now, you might continue to investigate, but you shut your mouth.

00:14:17.420 When you have enough to charge, then charge.

00:14:21.280 We're not a country that should allow for another day the smearing of individuals based on stuff that is not chargeable.

00:14:32.440 They've made this guy practically into a pedophile.

00:14:36.040 Well, where do you go to get your reputation back?

00:14:43.680 Because if they can do it to him, they'll do it to you.

00:14:47.080 Now, he may not be—I don't think he is a saint.

00:14:49.400 I think he's a long way away from a saint.

00:14:51.760 But I don't know who to believe.

00:14:55.300 That's for a jury to decide.

00:14:57.140 But once somebody is charged, not investigated, charged, if this—the Democrats or some of the sleazy Republicans decide to release this, all of those people should either be impeached or we should primary them.

00:15:17.080 Because this kind of stuff has got to stop.

00:15:21.180 Does it mean we let some bad guys get away?

00:15:24.280 Yes.

00:15:24.720 But wouldn't you rather have one bad guy get away than one good person get smeared and their life destroyed?

00:15:35.040 That is justice.

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00:16:42.920 Now, back to the podcast.

00:16:44.740 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:16:53.180 Dallas Jenkins joins us.

00:16:54.660 Hello, Dallas.

00:16:55.260 How are you?

00:16:55.860 Good.

00:16:56.340 I'm actually wanting to write down what you were just talking about.

00:16:59.500 I'm like, this sounds great.

00:17:01.100 I'm telling you, every school should have these things.

00:17:03.940 Yes.

00:17:04.220 We were, you know, nobody wants to arm teachers.

00:17:07.540 If you put your hand around the corner outside the door and somebody's in the hallway, yes, kids will be hit with tear gas, but nobody will die.

00:17:16.720 Yeah.

00:17:17.280 And the police can take that guy down.

00:17:19.640 Yeah.

00:17:19.960 It's crazy.

00:17:21.400 No, I know.

00:17:21.820 It sounds amazing.

00:17:22.480 I'm literally going, I'm going to get this for my home.

00:17:25.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:25.780 They're great.

00:17:26.380 How are you?

00:17:26.920 I'm good.

00:17:27.620 Here's the thing.

00:17:28.180 I'm looking at you and you're a handsome guy, but behind you is this big picture where you look phenomenal.

00:17:34.020 And it's, and it's like, it's not good for you to put it right behind you because then I'm like, wow, that's, wait a second.

00:17:40.320 There's a difference.

00:17:41.800 Like you're, you're like, you know, again, you look good in person too, but that's you happy and rugged and handsome.

00:17:49.080 And I'm like, wait a minute.

00:17:50.760 There's a disconnect.

00:17:51.260 So, uh, uh, so tell me, tell me the, the story of the film best Christmas pageant ever.

00:17:57.500 I have, I have to admit to you, I have not seen it.

00:18:00.200 I've had others who have seen it and just rave about it.

00:18:03.520 I've seen the trailer.

00:18:05.200 This is before you ever sent me anything or, you know, what's going to become, I didn't know who it was.

00:18:09.820 And I watched the trailer and I'm like, this looks fantastic.

00:18:14.260 It looks heartwarming and funny and all of it.

00:18:18.520 And it's true. 0.56

00:18:19.260 And I really think, uh, you and I've talked before.

00:18:21.720 This is, this is your kind of movie.

00:18:23.080 I really think you'd love it.

00:18:24.240 I read this book almost 20 years ago to my kids.

00:18:27.240 My wife brought it home and the first couple chapters I'm reading it.

00:18:30.680 Now this book's been around for 50 years.

00:18:32.040 I read it in public school, which is why I was so surprised by what happened when I read it again, uh, to my kids.

00:18:38.400 First few chapters, I'm laughing.

00:18:40.020 It's very witty, very nostalgic, just a terrific story.

00:18:44.120 And I get to the last chapter and I'm going, I didn't remember how Jesus-y this was.

00:18:48.520 Like, I don't know how we got a chance.

00:18:50.060 We got away with reading this in public school.

00:18:51.600 I guess because of the Christmas of it all.

00:18:53.400 But I get to the last chapter.

00:18:54.840 You grew up in Oklahoma?

00:18:56.060 Yeah, no.

00:18:57.560 Illinois.

00:18:58.560 Oh, wow.

00:18:59.280 Yeah, a little different.

00:19:00.020 Yeah, okay.

00:19:00.480 But, um, but anyway, the first, um, the story is the six Herdman kids, the worst kids in the world, the ones that everyone is looking down on.

00:19:08.860 And this is, I just want to re-ramp the side.

00:19:11.100 No, no, it's not, it's not a true story.

00:19:12.100 It's not true?

00:19:12.400 No, no, no.

00:19:12.720 Okay, okay.

00:19:13.480 Somebody told me it was a true story.

00:19:14.720 No, no, no.

00:19:15.200 Okay.

00:19:15.580 That's the chosen.

00:19:16.440 Okay.

00:19:16.740 That's a true story.

00:19:19.640 But, uh, this, uh, she captures, it feels very real.

00:19:24.020 It's very nostalgic.

00:19:25.160 It's, you remember the movie, A Christmas Story?

00:19:27.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:27.520 Very much that feel to it.

00:19:28.800 But in this case, um, these six kids, they're, they're, they're on the wrong side of the tracks.

00:19:34.560 They're in poverty.

00:19:35.440 They're mean. 0.80

00:19:36.700 They're, they're feral.

00:19:38.280 And, uh, this church in this town, uh, don't want them around.

00:19:41.900 And they hijack the town's Christmas pageant and they take over the roles.

00:19:45.580 They bully the other kids into saying, we're going to play these roles of Mary and Joseph.

00:19:48.640 So, of course, everyone's scandalized and thinks it's going to be the worst Christmas pageant ever.

00:19:52.040 Because they're so un-Christlike.

00:19:54.100 Right.

00:19:54.360 Yeah.

00:19:54.880 And, and, and so much like Mary and Joseph, like you can't have this awful girl playing the Mother Mary.

00:19:59.580 Mother Mary is beautiful and sweet and pretty and always looks clean.

00:20:02.780 So they get to the performance of the pageant and not, I don't want to give anything away.

00:20:06.260 Of course, it is called the best Christmas pageant ever.

00:20:08.440 So, but we get to that last chapter.

00:20:10.700 I start crying so hard.

00:20:12.240 I can't see the pages.

00:20:13.820 My kids are looking at me like, what is going on?

00:20:16.020 And my wife, Amanda, goes, all right, give me the book.

00:20:17.780 Let me read it.

00:20:18.520 She starts reading.

00:20:19.280 She starts crying.

00:20:20.200 We're passing the book back and forth to each other while the other one recovers.

00:20:23.620 The story is just so beautiful because it's because of these kids' poverty, because of their outsider status.

00:20:30.520 They're actually closer to the heart of the true story than anyone else is.

00:20:35.260 And so it ends up transforming this town and the town, of course.

00:20:39.440 So, so everyone is learning something new because these kids have never heard the story before.

00:20:43.020 So they're asking all these questions.

00:20:44.300 Well, that's a better ending than I thought.

00:20:45.700 I thought it was that the people that were helping the kids actually kind of changed the kids to have those kids transform the rest.

00:20:57.380 Right.

00:20:57.840 That's fantastic.

00:20:58.600 That's the thing.

00:20:59.260 The church learns from these outsiders because we've taken for granted the Christmas story and the Christmas pageants. 0.98

00:21:05.980 And we think of the sweet little nativity and the halo around everyone's head.

00:21:10.500 And these kids are going, wait a minute, why wouldn't they let a pregnant woman into the inn? 1.00

00:21:14.260 And they're asking all these questions that we take for granted.

00:21:18.160 And so their perspective on the story is just closer to the truth of it because of their unique perspective and outsider status.

00:21:25.400 And so it just was so beautiful.

00:21:26.900 And it's, there's a very common, a connective thread between that and the chosen.

00:21:30.920 My passion has always been, and we've talked about this before.

00:21:34.360 I'm like, I'm taking, I'm taking Jesus and the apostles down from stained glass windows, down from the pretty paintings that we've seen and trying to give you the most accurate, direct portrayal of the humanity of these people and their true story.

00:21:48.260 And that's what really stood out to me about the best Christmas pageant ever.

00:21:51.220 Now it's, it's funny, it's witty, it's a, it's a, it's a traditional Christmas classic, but it's got this, it's, it's probably the only of the, of the movies that I would consider to be Christmas classics.

00:22:02.960 And hopefully this becomes one of them that really does put a spotlight on the true story of Jesus, but in a fun way.

00:22:09.480 It's, it's, it's, it's amazing to me how snotty Christians can get. 1.00

00:22:14.840 And maybe it's because they either, they either didn't have that kind of experience or didn't need the redemption of Christ as much as others do.

00:22:27.420 But the, you know, Christ came for, for the ones that needed redemption.

00:22:34.240 And we all need it, but needed the redemption really badly.

00:22:37.680 He, he was always around those kinds of kids.

00:22:41.140 Yeah, he's saying, I came for the sick, not for the healthy.

00:22:43.120 Right.

00:22:43.460 And there's a line in the trailer and in the movie where the mom who's volunteering to do this pageant, everyone in the church is telling her, no, just get rid of the Herdmans. 1.00

00:22:50.980 We need to protect our sacred Christmas pageant.

00:22:53.420 And at one point her daughter says, shouldn't we just get rid of them?

00:22:56.100 You know, and she says, I think that would contradict the whole point of the story.

00:23:01.640 Right.

00:23:01.940 And she says, the point of the story is that Jesus came for the Herdmans as much as he came for you and me.

00:23:06.140 He was, everybody in that story was rejected and despised.

00:23:09.880 Yes.

00:23:10.240 And there's also a moment where the Herdmans walk out on stage and they are, they're wearing the clothes they cobbled together at home to portray Mary and Joseph instead of the pretty costumes that were given to them by the church.

00:23:24.980 Right. And one of the girls in the choir who's against them goes, look at them. 0.99

00:23:29.400 They look like refugees. 1.00

00:23:30.300 And the main characters looking at them, she goes, yeah, they do.

00:23:34.260 And she's smiling going, this is what Mary and Joseph were.

00:23:37.780 They were refugees.

00:23:38.700 They were outsiders. 0.84

00:23:39.800 So it's those kinds of moments that unlike, again, some of these other Christmas classics that I love, you know, Elf and Christmas Story and some of these Home Alone, they're all great.

00:23:49.760 But this is a movie that has all those elements of humor and whatnot.

00:23:53.480 But then there's these moments where you go, oh, my goodness, that is the true story.

00:23:58.400 And I think to your point about Christians and those of us, especially here in America, I think sometimes we – it's not that we need redemption less.

00:24:07.260 If anything, we need it more, but it's our awareness of our need, which sometimes goes away when you are living comfortably.

00:24:14.580 Comfort can oftentimes cause you to take for granted what – who came for us not comfortable.

00:24:21.500 Jesus was born into a stable, into a rough environment, on the run, hiding, outsiders, refugee, all that stuff. 1.00

00:24:29.020 He came as a suffering servant, not as a conquering king.

00:24:31.960 And we sometimes forget that.

00:24:33.420 Yeah, and it's remarkable to me, the best Christians – I put a few people like Billy Graham into other categories, but the best Christians that I have met, regular people, are those people usually from the Middle East or from China.

00:24:51.680 Oh, yeah.

00:24:52.120 The ones who are just like, oh, they have to know God because it's literally all that gets them through their day.

00:25:01.520 Oh, yeah. I have a friend who runs this ministry called World Relief, and he said, the church in Iran is cool, man.

00:25:09.660 Oh, I bet it is.

00:25:10.560 He's like, they just – he's like, they're like, we just had another great bombing.

00:25:13.840 And they're like, what? Like, we had a bombing of one of our churches.

00:25:17.700 We've never been closer to God. We've never been more desperate for him.

00:25:20.300 We've never – and I'm like, man, I hope – I wish I could reach that level of passion and desperation without needing to be in oppressed form.

00:25:29.360 I went to Iraq years ago, and we were rescuing the Yazidis, and I was supposed to come pick them up, and then we're going to take them to some other country in Europe. 1.00

00:25:42.860 And so when I get on the plane in New York, I'm told you may not be able to go see them because ISIS has just targeted the church at the time you're supposed to arrive, and they're having a final service.

00:25:57.360 And so I'm on the plane wondering, I mean, what am I going to do when we get there?

00:26:02.840 And I get there, and they say – I said, so where are we meeting?

00:26:06.000 And they're like, oh, at the church.

00:26:07.040 And I said, did ISIS?

00:26:08.620 And they said, no.

00:26:10.840 They are – they're not changing their plans.

00:26:13.320 And I said, okay.

00:26:14.680 And then halfway through church, Russia said that they were going to start bombing that city.

00:26:21.520 And I'm laughing just because it's like, this is not something we think about in America.

00:26:26.180 Right.

00:26:26.400 And I'm like, should we all maybe – is there a shelter around here?

00:26:30.160 They just kept singing and praying.

00:26:32.120 And they said to me, oh, if we die, we're with God.

00:26:37.340 Right now, we're fine.

00:26:38.720 This is great.

00:26:39.880 It was amazing to see it.

00:26:41.800 It was very humbling.

00:26:43.140 And so that's the kind of thing I'm hoping, not only that it reaches me, but the viewer.

00:26:49.060 When I do the shows and when I do a movie like Best Christmas Pageant Ever, it's can

00:26:53.280 we somehow remove these – sometimes it's religion, sometimes it's our sins, sometimes

00:26:58.500 it's our art that gets us further away from that – what actually happened and from that

00:27:05.420 desperation and from that authenticity.

00:27:07.060 And so, yes, in this case, it's wrapped in a fun, PG-rated Christmas movie, but it's

00:27:13.560 all the same intention of, man, I'd love to get that level of direct connection, so connected

00:27:19.520 to Jesus that everything around you is irrelevant.

00:27:23.080 And this is so important, this Christmas.

00:27:25.780 I mean, I've been fighting Santa, not in a – I didn't want to be that bad dad that's

00:27:32.240 like, well, it's Santa, Santa.

00:27:34.120 You know, I had fun as a kid with Santa, but I – it was a different culture.

00:27:40.720 The culture said Christmas was about Jesus, not Santa, and Santa was just the fun part.

00:27:47.940 And it is so important, and this is a fun way to bring your kids to the true story of

00:27:54.760 Christmas.

00:27:55.820 It's called The Best Christmas Pageant Ever.

00:27:58.680 It's in theaters now.

00:28:00.060 Are you going to release it on video on demand before Christmas or not?

00:28:04.440 Just close to – close to around Christmas.

00:28:06.440 Yeah, okay.

00:28:06.840 But I do hope that people go see it in theaters now.

00:28:08.980 We want it to last in theaters as long as possible, but yes, eventually, shortly before

00:28:13.520 Christmas, it'll be available at home as well.

00:28:15.860 Yeah, I will tell you that the – it speaks a lot.

00:28:20.180 I think this came out November 5th?

00:28:21.800 8th, yeah.

00:28:22.460 Yeah, 8th.

00:28:22.760 Right after the election.

00:28:23.560 Yeah, and, you know, it is doing really well.

00:28:26.380 Yeah.

00:28:26.500 This early in this season.

00:28:28.340 The New York Times liked it, Glenn.

00:28:30.160 Like, it's got a 91% on Rotten Tomatoes.

00:28:33.560 Wow.

00:28:33.840 Wormhole.

00:28:34.620 I know.

00:28:35.280 There's a glitch in the Matrix.

00:28:36.940 Yeah.

00:28:37.220 But there seems to be this reaction of like, wow, this movie does take me to where Christmas

00:28:42.400 should be about, and it's been a really, really cool experience to see the reaction.

00:28:47.340 We're with Dallas Jenkins, creator-director of The Chosen, and the new movie, Must See,

00:28:52.320 The Best Christmas Pageant Ever.

00:28:54.000 See it this week in theaters.

00:28:56.520 It will be great to kick off the holiday and kind of also remind us, hey, God just played

00:29:01.940 a big role in our lives here recently.

00:29:03.640 We saw some miracles.

00:29:04.840 Let's thank him.

00:29:06.200 Let's thank him for that.

00:29:08.040 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Podcast.

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00:29:16.440 So, Stu, how old were you in 1985?

00:29:19.720 I was nine.

00:29:20.660 You were nine.

00:29:21.200 So, you were probably just, you remember Reagan, clearly.

00:29:25.340 Yeah.

00:29:25.700 Yeah.

00:29:26.040 I mean, Back to the Future, one of my all-time favorite movies came out in November 5th,

00:29:29.660 1955, 1985.

00:29:32.140 Yeah.

00:29:32.280 Right.

00:29:32.460 That was the year that it took place.

00:29:34.780 Okay.

00:29:35.340 So, I remember that distinctly.

00:29:36.660 And do you have real memories of the Cold War?

00:29:40.300 Yeah, for sure.

00:29:41.040 I mean, of course, Rocky IV, the movie that ended the Cold War.

00:29:44.160 Outside of movies.

00:29:45.240 I mean, that's how you set those timelines in your life.

00:29:48.240 Right.

00:29:48.740 So, there was a guy that I don't know if you would have remembered.

00:29:53.520 He was a comedian, and he came from around the Iron Curtain.

00:29:58.120 And he and his family got out of the former Soviet Union.

00:30:02.060 He became a huge hit at the time because we really didn't see former Soviet citizens, and

00:30:09.560 especially ones that could tell jokes.

00:30:11.760 And his name was Yakov Smirnoff.

00:30:13.200 Oh, yeah.

00:30:13.500 You remember him?

00:30:13.980 Oh, yeah.

00:30:14.240 I just saw something from him the other day about Thanksgiving.

00:30:20.580 And I haven't seen this.

00:30:22.960 I don't know if I even saw it in 1985, but it's worth listening to.

00:30:27.280 Here he is, Yakov Smirnoff, just fresh from the Soviet Union, talking about Thanksgiving.

00:30:35.100 Listen to this.

00:30:36.220 It's Thanksgiving, and I'll tell you, it's my favorite holiday.

00:30:39.860 I like parades without missiles.

00:30:41.600 When I first was explaining about Thanksgiving in America, I said, wait a minute, it doesn't

00:30:47.140 make sense.

00:30:48.300 I mean, for every freedom and all the opportunities that you got here, the only thing you got to

00:30:52.500 say is thanks.

00:30:54.480 It just didn't seem like it was enough.

00:30:56.920 My parents and I had our first Thanksgiving dinner in a little apartment in New York.

00:31:02.120 And we joined hands, and my father said a prayer to good food and our health.

00:31:07.060 And then something happened.

00:31:08.200 Instead of releasing our hands, we couldn't let go.

00:31:12.420 We kept holding on to each other tighter and tighter, and we realized we were together, and

00:31:17.560 we were free, really free.

00:31:19.720 And here we were, three grown people looking for a way we could possibly show our appreciation,

00:31:25.880 and we couldn't.

00:31:28.560 Now I know what it is.

00:31:29.940 It's thanks.

00:31:32.560 Good night.

00:31:33.180 If you're watching it, you can see that he tears up at the end.

00:31:42.380 There's no words to express thanks.

00:31:46.480 And we have lost, we've lost that, the deep, deep gratitude for our lives.

00:31:53.460 Um, I have felt it over the last year, unlike I've ever felt gratitude for my freedom, my

00:32:04.300 safety, my family's safety, being born here.

00:32:09.020 Uh, and, and now, especially after the election, you know, God, miracles can happen in your life

00:32:19.820 all the time, just, quote, chance encounters.

00:32:23.300 Eh, is it a chance encounter, or is that an answer to a prayer?

00:32:28.680 Um, is that divine providence?

00:32:32.800 Miracles come when there's really no other explanation.

00:32:38.160 When something that just, you all have agreed that just can't happen, happens.

00:32:44.800 Donald Trump, getting shot at, so close that the camera picks the bullet up, speeding toward

00:32:56.620 his head, and just before it goes into his head, he moves his head in a way he never does 0.70

00:33:03.940 before, and it clips his ear instead of going right into the temple.

00:33:10.100 That doesn't happen.

00:33:11.540 That doesn't happen.

00:33:14.320 To have a politician or a guy who is constantly beat on, constantly smeared, had more investigations

00:33:26.740 done on him than I, and I believe this to be true.

00:33:29.820 I'd love to see an actual study on this.

00:33:32.640 Somebody who had more investigations, more spies on him, more, you know, going through the

00:33:40.620 trash and everything else, more than anyone else in human history by far, because every

00:33:48.340 spy agency in the world did that.

00:33:53.180 And then they went back and said, there's got to be something else.

00:33:57.020 For him to just continue to stand, and then when somebody tries to kill him, his first response

00:34:06.360 is, stand up.

00:34:09.300 And then for him not to be angry, but instead to be humbled, what are the odds there?

00:34:19.600 For him to continue to go on, and in fact, continue to stand, do you know, his plane was targeted.

00:34:31.400 His plane was targeted.

00:34:33.220 We know that there are surface-to-air missiles.

00:34:35.960 We know that he was going to be targeted by foreign entities that are here.

00:34:40.880 For him to get on, just get on his plane every time, the man knew he was risking his life.

00:34:50.480 For him to run the campaign that he ran in the last eight months, you remember what it was like?

00:34:56.900 It was all, you know, they're after me and all of this stuff, because they were after him.

00:35:03.520 But should you notice, after the assassination attempt, when he could have said, ah, instead,

00:35:12.980 he had a much more uniting message, and a happier message, and a positive message,

00:35:19.160 and then for all of these people to come out of the woodwork and start to say, you know what?

00:35:25.420 This is evil.

00:35:26.380 I heard more talk from people who are not Christians.

00:35:29.460 More talk from people going, there is something seriously wrong, and I think it's evil, what's going on.

00:35:38.000 America woke up.

00:35:41.700 I've been doing this for 50 years on the radio, almost 50 years.

00:35:46.260 I've been doing this, warning people for 24 years.

00:35:53.600 I didn't think you'd wake up.

00:35:55.520 Stu brought it up.

00:35:56.580 You know, our theme is, you know, stand up.

00:35:59.460 We wrote that theme four years ago, because if you don't stand up, we're done.

00:36:05.440 And we put that on, and I tried to make that an encouraging thing to convince people, you've got to stand up.

00:36:11.700 Right now, we're going to lose everything.

00:36:13.220 You've got to stand up.

00:36:14.200 It's okay to stand up.

00:36:15.280 It's the only way.

00:36:16.560 You stood up.

00:36:17.840 After 24 years of the same message coming from me in different ways, where I had lost hope.

00:36:29.840 I mean, I said to you all last year, we've got to find God.

00:36:36.100 We've got to be people where God thinks, you know what?

00:36:40.460 They're worth saving.

00:36:42.780 I said to you over and over again, I can come up with a million ways this is going to go wrong,

00:36:47.920 but there's only one path for it to succeed, and that is God.

00:36:54.540 And he showed up.

00:37:02.880 He showed up.

00:37:05.700 He's not done with us.

00:37:08.200 He should be.

00:37:09.520 Honestly, he should be.

00:37:10.700 With everything that we do, for as big as a miracle that is, I think a lot of people, I mean, I heard it right after the election.

00:37:19.640 Wow, that was a miracle.

00:37:23.140 And people meant it as a literal miracle.

00:37:25.060 That was a miracle.

00:37:27.800 Yeah, it was.

00:37:32.880 Next week, will we even remember it by next Thursday?

00:37:37.940 Or will we make the holiday that was built to humble ourselves and to thank God for our blessings?

00:37:52.860 Will we even remember the massive miracle?

00:37:57.140 Stu, would you agree one of the biggest miracles you've seen in your life for America?

00:38:01.180 I mean, that was a miracle that that happened in the way that it did.

00:38:08.460 All of a sudden, the messaging was right.

00:38:10.180 All of the right things fell into place.

00:38:13.080 You know, for the first time ever, the GOP was serious on their ground game.

00:38:18.780 I mean, all of these things that happened.

00:38:20.900 I thought you were just referring to him turning his head.

00:38:23.460 Yeah.

00:38:24.240 And that, all of that, from that moment on, all of that was a miracle.

00:38:31.180 Now, let's not forget that next week.

00:38:37.860 He's not done with us.

00:38:41.700 You know, I heard somebody say to me on election day, I feel really good.

00:38:46.760 I feel really good.

00:38:47.760 I'm cautious, but I feel really good.

00:38:50.640 And here's why.

00:38:51.280 Why would he, recognizing the miracle of the assassination attempt,

00:38:56.540 why would he save Donald Trump only to not save it now?

00:39:07.640 I couldn't think of a reason.

00:39:10.280 Other than I don't understand the mind of God.

00:39:13.980 Think of this miracle.

00:39:15.300 If Donald Trump would have won in 2020, it would have been more of the first term.

00:39:23.260 We wouldn't get what we're about to get now.

00:39:26.500 We wouldn't get the reduction of the government.

00:39:29.980 We wouldn't get possibly the closing down of some agencies,

00:39:35.260 of cutting these agencies in half.

00:39:37.820 We wouldn't have gotten those things.

00:39:39.600 We wouldn't have had Elon Musk.

00:39:40.880 We wouldn't have had Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:39:44.320 We wouldn't have known.

00:39:46.300 Remember, they didn't start cutting our children until the Biden administration.

00:39:52.420 None of us had any idea about all this transgender stuff, 1.00

00:39:57.080 because that and DEI, if you brought it up,

00:40:02.020 it wasn't being done at least as openly, but it was all set to go.

00:40:06.940 It wasn't being done until Biden got in.

00:40:10.680 And then when we said, what the hell is all this?

00:40:12.840 They said it was a conspiracy theory.

00:40:14.780 And it took us three years to go.

00:40:17.180 No, it's not.

00:40:18.560 It's not a conspiracy theory.

00:40:20.320 And it's deadly.

00:40:22.080 It took us three years before the doctors even started to turn.

00:40:27.860 It took COVID to wake people up.

00:40:31.120 There is no bad.

00:40:33.220 There really, my father used to say this to me,

00:40:35.000 Glenn, there is no bad.

00:40:35.840 It's what do you do with the bad things that happened to you?

00:40:40.780 You can either wallow in and say, oh, that was bad. 0.88

00:40:45.180 Or you could recognize that sucked. 0.61

00:40:48.160 But what did I learn from it?

00:40:50.680 What did I take?

00:40:52.040 How can I take that and turn that into a blessing?

00:40:56.360 COVID was a blessing in the end because it woke people up.

00:41:01.000 Tomorrow I have some surgery.

00:41:07.940 Then I go on vacation.

00:41:09.520 It's not a big surgery.

00:41:10.840 It's just I have facial surgery again because I guess I'm out of room on my face for more cancer.

00:41:17.740 So they got to take some cancer off my face so I can grow new cancer.

00:41:21.440 I don't know.

00:41:21.860 This never ends.

00:41:24.040 But this is my last chance to talk to you before Thanksgiving.

00:41:29.540 And this is my last chance before Thanksgiving.

00:41:37.540 To sincerely thank the Lord for showing up.

00:41:42.480 For sincerely blessing our country.

00:41:47.400 For showing me a miracle.

00:41:50.160 Two.

00:41:51.560 One that I saw in North Carolina where people were standing because God told them,

00:41:57.700 come from across the country, I know you don't know anybody.

00:42:02.300 I know you don't think you're going to be able to make a difference.

00:42:05.380 But just go.

00:42:07.400 And they got in their cars and they drove across the country.

00:42:11.200 And those people were put to work in ways that I couldn't have served.

00:42:15.920 Maybe you couldn't have served.

00:42:17.760 But they actually did it.

00:42:20.620 And God worked a miracle.

00:42:23.900 And then he worked this.

00:42:25.420 Please, please, even if it is just holding the hands around the table,

00:42:32.520 just for an extra minute,

00:42:36.920 there is nothing that we can say to him more meaningful than just,

00:42:47.360 thank you.

00:42:50.280 Thank you, Lord, for an incredible experience.

00:42:55.420 Thank you for letting us live at this time to be in your service.

00:43:02.980 Thank you for waking us up.

00:43:07.080 Thank you for giving us the reason to stand.

00:43:14.200 Happy Thanksgiving.

00:43:15.320 You will.

00:43:24.900 Okay.

00:43:25.720 No, no.

00:43:26.960 Okay.

00:43:27.280 No, no.

00:43:27.880 a.

00:43:28.480 It's not.

00:43:29.080 No, no.

00:43:29.180 No, no.

00:43:30.140 No, no, no.

00:43:30.980 No, no, no, no.

00:43:32.920 No, no.

00:43:37.680 The last time are you,

00:43:39.200 you remember?

00:43:39.840 No, no, no.

00:43:41.180 No, no, no.

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