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00:01:37.680 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We welcome Mr. Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed. Pat,

00:01:48.000 what is the big story in your world today? Has to be Asa Hutchinson, doesn't it?

00:01:53.960 Has to be. Yes. Thank goodness. He's finally gotten into the race. Oh, we've been begging.

00:02:00.360 How I begged and pleaded. Asa, please just consider 2024. Would you please just jump in?

00:02:08.240 We've been saying it since the early 20s. Was it the 1920s? Because I've been saying it for a long

00:02:17.280 time. It does seem like a hundred years. It does. It does. And finally, and finally, and he had a good

00:02:23.840 suggestion that, you know, everybody who's in front of him get out of the race. And I think that's,

00:02:28.920 you know, that'd be helpful for him. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, that's good. By the way,

00:02:36.340 DeSantis is, was up in Pennsylvania and it looks like he's, you know, almost for sure running.

00:02:44.180 Oh, right. I mean, is there any doubt in your mind? Well, no, I've, I've talked to him while he

00:02:49.760 never said to me he was running. I've had several sit downs with him and there's pretty recent,

00:02:56.640 right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there is absolutely no doubt in my mind. I'm excited about

00:03:02.000 that. Are you? Yeah, I am. I think, I think he's great. I also like Vivek though. Yeah. I like

00:03:09.120 Vivek too. Not a chance, but I like Vivek. Right. I know. I like Vivek. Just the name will probably

00:03:14.120 hamper him. Right. It's so odd. It's so odd. It's like, you know, Barack Obama. Yeah. You know,

00:03:20.620 we don't, we don't vote for people like that. Weird names. No, we, we sure don't. Um, all right.

00:03:26.880 Uh, there's, uh, also, uh, you know, Donald Trump, you know, being indicted tomorrow. There is that.

00:03:32.860 Yeah. There's, we got that going for us. His legal team, uh, says that the judge is probably going to

00:03:39.460 impose a gag order on him. Is that even legal? How is that? How is that possible? I don't,

00:03:44.680 I don't know. These gag orders, they seem to happen a lot. Yeah. And, uh, no, if you're coming

00:03:50.760 after me, uh, no, I'm, I'm going to defend myself in the media. You're not going to have a one way

00:03:56.320 street on this. Plus I'm a presidential candidate. You can't gag me. There's how is that possible?

00:04:04.840 It's, I don't think it is. Well, the NYPD apparently is, uh, is not happy with the Manhattan D.A.

00:04:13.940 Uh, they said, uh, nobody wants to be the one bringing Trump in. Cops believe this is a case

00:04:22.360 of political, uh, uh, political, uh, persecution. And on the facts, it's a joke. According to NYPD

00:04:30.560 sources, we were kind of wondering this morning, why doesn't he just stay in Florida where DeSantis

00:04:36.140 said he is not going to go get him. He's not going to allow that. Just stay there and, and don't go to

00:04:43.500 New York and you won't have to be brought in. I wonder what would happen. I wonder what would

00:04:48.480 happen. I don't know. Are you going to forcefully go remove Donald Trump from Mar-a-Lago? Yes,

00:04:54.580 they would. You think so? Yeah, they would. Man, what a country. What a country. Besides

00:04:59.480 Aza, Aza, Aza, Aza, Aza Hutchinson, uh, running, which just, uh, just rolls off the tongue. Sure

00:05:05.920 does. Um, what else is, uh, and, and the Donald Trump? Well, I really liked the fact that

00:05:12.060 James Patterson has called out the New York times, uh, for their bizarre bestseller list

00:05:17.700 practices. And I, I think you might've mentioned this before if I'm not. Yeah. I read the article

00:05:23.140 this morning and it mentions me that I've been, I've been saying this for a long, long

00:05:28.100 time. But Patterson is like, um, I sold the, by far the most amount of books. And what was

00:05:34.780 he? It was like, he has 114 New York times bestsellers, which is the Guinness book of world

00:05:41.860 record holder. And 67 of them went to number one. Right. So he's a guy who knows what he's

00:05:48.160 talking about. And he's not even talking about one of his books right now. He's talking about,

00:05:52.680 uh, Mike Pompeo's book, which was ahead of, I don't know, six books that were listed above

00:05:58.280 him. And he's like, why bestseller should be, I don't know, the person who sold the best.

00:06:05.580 No, no, no. They have a special, they, they have a special look at it. They have a special

00:06:09.800 formula. Uh-huh. And what is that formula? Uh, if it is, if it's something the liberals

00:06:16.160 like, it goes higher. That doesn't seem like a good formula. No, it's a very complex algorithm.

00:06:22.700 Very complex algorithm. Don't they claim, do they claim some of these bookstores have more

00:06:26.940 weight than others? Yes. Whatever. These little teeny, you know, heritage bookstores,

00:06:32.660 which all tend to be around, you know, university, uh, they get weighted more. So if they sell

00:06:42.080 one book, it's like selling three books. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. Oh no, it's, uh, no, it's

00:06:47.680 crazy. It's, uh, super, super accurate. So you, you got that, uh, you got that going for

00:06:52.720 you. Uh, Stu, biggest story of the day for you. I was just going to, just to finish up

00:06:58.320 on that New York times thing. It is amazing that you're not speculating there. That's

00:07:02.360 like what they admit. They admit they have their own formula that is going to bring in

00:07:07.880 that certain books sold at certain bookstores count as more. Right. And these are the people

00:07:13.440 that are talking to us about the science. These are the people that are talking about

00:07:17.020 fairness and facts, the same type of people, certainly that say an apple is an apple and

00:07:22.980 you have to admit when an apple is an apple, but a book sale is not a book sale. Right.

00:07:27.280 Exactly. Right. Yeah, exactly. Right. Can I bring up one other thing that seems kind of

00:07:31.260 important to me, but I haven't heard hardly anybody talking about. And, uh, that's the fact

00:07:38.020 that, you know, here we are talking about Tik TOK and how, uh, China could be spying on all

00:07:42.880 Americans. I think a more important issue is that they control all of our medication.

00:07:48.640 Almost all medication is manufactured in China. Why is that? Um, because if they decide that,

00:07:56.740 um, I don't know, we really are an enemy and they don't want to provide us with our medication

00:08:02.140 anymore. A lot of people are going to die, including me. So now you care. Now I care.

00:08:10.560 Now you care. Right. Okay. Now I didn't care before when other people were going to die,

00:08:15.700 but now, now it involves me. Right. And I kind of want my medication. Right. So why are we even

00:08:24.960 talking about that? How is it possible that nobody's saying. Why are we talking about all of the

00:08:28.340 things that when it comes to China, we're not talking about any of it. You know, we're talking

00:08:31.620 about trans day. That's what we're talking about. Right. Trans day. What the hell can, can we talk

00:08:37.280 about the medical situation could be one of the most important things of all time for us? Do you

00:08:43.780 know that we are now having baby food shortages? Yes. Again, again, again, again, but that's okay.

00:08:51.240 So tariffs work wonders on that one. No, they're great. You, uh, by the way, Glenn, uh, said, I mean,

00:08:57.440 what are we talking about? The trans day? Um, but can we talk about the trans day for just one second?

00:09:02.640 Sure. Because sure. Here's the thing. It's called the trans day of visibility. Just to be clear,

00:09:09.880 we can see, we can tell we're aware. This is not, we can't, we have eyes. We notice.

00:09:19.520 Yeah, but they were, I don't understand what you're saying there, Stu. I'm saying it's visible. We are

00:09:26.340 aware. Yeah, but not until the day of visibility though. Not until the day of visibility. No,

00:09:31.280 we couldn't see it before that. They were invisible. And, uh, can I ask one question here?

00:09:36.900 Yeah. We had a, uh, when let's say, uh, some right-wing lunatic goes into a, uh, uh, trans

00:09:44.540 gathering and commits a mass shooting. First of all, we would be the first people on the air saying

00:09:49.460 how terrible that was and how awful it was. And how awful that person was. And how awful that person

00:09:54.680 was. Even if they claim to be Christian or claim to be Republican or claim to be a Donald Trump

00:10:00.940 supporter or whatever. And just because I'm a clothes horse, I might've commented on the trans

00:10:05.500 person's clothing and their outfit. Might've. That's good or bad. Might've done it. You are

00:10:10.440 fashion. Um, so you have this situation where if a right-wing person goes in and was to commit

00:10:18.180 a mass shooting of trans people, we would, uh, media society in general would of course say,

00:10:24.080 I can't believe this are trans people in danger, uh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Rightly so,

00:10:30.720 right? If, if there was a physical attack against trans people, that would be a normal reaction for

00:10:34.800 society. But what, what actually happened was a trans person shooting a bunch of children

00:10:41.480 at a Christian school. And the media reaction is still trans people should be worried. They're in

00:10:49.720 danger. What can, well, wait, wait, wait, wait. I just like to add just one little fact to that.

00:10:56.940 That makes the third trans person, uh, that is, has been a, um, you know, a shooter, a shooter of

00:11:05.680 multiple people. And, uh, plus a non-binary. Yeah. Non-binary. So they're very, they're in danger.

00:11:12.280 They can be killed by police at any time as they're shooting people.

00:11:18.360 And that's, and, and to be clear, we saw as, uh, protesters were holding up seven fingers to say

00:11:23.940 there were seven victims of the shooting, including the shooter. Uh, I've heard zero from the media

00:11:30.160 about how Christian children at schools should be worried about their futures. That apparently is not

00:11:36.140 interesting at all. In fact, I haven't heard word one really about these victims. All we've heard

00:11:39.960 is about the trans people and how they are in danger from this incident somehow, because I guess

00:11:46.360 evil conservatives are going to get mad that apparently trans people are shooting children

00:11:51.000 in Christian schools. Can you believe that they'll probably pounce on that as an opportunity to dislike

00:11:56.380 trans people more? I mean, it's just, this has been, of all the things we could describe the media

00:12:02.180 and Democrats in general as being despicable on, this one might get close to the top of the charts.

00:12:08.760 In, uh, in, in, in, in a story that has absolutely no relation to what we're talking about at all.

00:12:15.360 Cut four, please. Have you seen the lightning that has struck New York over the weekend? Watch this.

00:12:21.000 This is absolutely incredible.

00:12:26.080 I mean, that's nuts. Yeah, it's nuts. Yeah. If you're, if you're listening to us, you're like,

00:12:32.920 what's nuts that you're not watching it with us on the blaze. That's what's crazy.

00:12:37.920 Should be a subscriber. It, uh, it, a bolt of lightning anchors down on the freedom tower and

00:12:44.660 it just becomes a lightning cage and, and is held there for a while. It's crazy. It's really cool.

00:12:49.840 But you know, I'm sure that somebody got hurt. It's really cool. Yeah.

00:12:53.160 If it would have electrocuted everybody in the building, it wouldn't have been quite as cool.

00:12:57.900 Well, then we would have, we have to worry about trans lives. Yeah. I mean,

00:13:01.240 it could have been full of Christian children and who gives a flying crap. All right. Thank you, Pat.

00:13:06.800 Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed. You can hear, uh, every day before this, uh, rat infested program.

00:13:13.080 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. And we really want to thank you for listening.

00:13:23.680 Tomorrow is a, um, a pretty big day for the Republic. Tomorrow, a former president of the United States

00:13:33.720 is going to be arraigned in New York. Uh, and, uh, we'll find out what the charges are. I mean,

00:13:41.340 so far we think that it is, you know, all around the idea that, uh, Donald Trump, uh, claimed legal fees

00:13:51.360 on, uh, on paperwork when he paid somebody off in court, Stormy Daniels. And, uh, apparently you can't

00:13:59.280 do that as, um, Hillary Clinton found out as she declared legal fees for the, uh, the, the, uh,

00:14:09.080 the dossier, right? Yeah. Fusion GPS dossier. And so you had, you had her get a nasty fine.

00:14:17.600 You have Donald Trump, uh, you know, possibly going to jail, but we don't know what the charges are.

00:14:24.820 We hopefully we'll find out what they are after he has been arraigned or sorry, not arraigned,

00:14:30.600 but in indicted. And he comes in and fingerprinted and they officially charge him.

00:14:35.720 Now the, it's my understanding that the judge may issue a gag order, which is insanity is insanity.

00:14:47.240 Wait a minute. How do you would wait a minute? You're saying that the media can pile on and say

00:14:55.740 these things, but he's not allowed to say anything. And he's running for president of the United States.

00:15:02.200 How, how is that even possible? They can just continue to slander him and he can't defend

00:15:09.240 himself. Yeah, absolutely incredible. I mean, we don't know that that's going to happen. And that

00:15:13.260 is what has been reported though today. Right. And if that does happen, it's a disgrace because not

00:15:18.400 only is he a free citizen that should be able to defend himself publicly, particularly in a situation

00:15:23.560 like this. I mean, this is not a, you know, it's not a major, it's a, it's a, it's a

00:15:27.620 improper classification of, of campaign expenditures is what they're charging him with. Obviously he

00:15:35.320 denies a lot of this, but like, besides the fact that any normal citizen should not have this happen

00:15:41.680 to him. I mean, it's a central part of the argument Donald Trump is making to be reelected,

00:15:47.080 right? He, he, the central part of his argument is that I am being targeted by these forces in the

00:15:55.180 government that you need me there to stop. Like that is, it's like his entire argument to become

00:15:59.840 president of the United States again. I know. And they want to take him, they want to take that out

00:16:03.520 of his mouth. I mean, that's, that seems absolutely impossible. You know, we're actually repeating

00:16:09.940 history. I mean, not exactly, but the progressives are the progressive party put Eugene Debs. He was

00:16:20.660 the, the founder of the international socialists party founder, I think of the communist movement

00:16:27.900 here in America. He was a labor union guy, an organizer, and he was put into jail under Grover

00:16:37.380 Cleveland because convicted of federal charges for defying a court injunction against the strike and

00:16:47.880 served six months in prison. But then in 1920, he's running. And in 1918, he starts speaking out

00:16:57.860 against world war one and Woodrow Wilson charged him with, uh, the sedition act and put him in prison

00:17:09.040 for 20 years. Was it a convicted sedition act sentence to a 10 year prison term. So he was supposed

00:17:17.080 to go to prison for 10 years. And it was only because, uh, Harding came in and Wilson didn't run

00:17:24.080 for a third term that, uh, he was released. The Republican came in and said, the sedition act

00:17:33.100 is absolutely unconstitutional. They got rid of the sedition act and they forgave him, but he ran

00:17:39.320 for president from prison, from prison and got three and a half percent, which is more than Asa

00:17:47.900 Hutchinson will get being a free man, which is weird. Uh, what do you think of the politics of

00:17:55.460 this gun and how, how this plays out? I mean, the standard way of thinking seems to be that this is

00:18:01.860 going to help Trump in the primary and then question marks in the general. What do you think

00:18:07.620 of that analysis? I think it makes America a more dangerous place. Um, because you're going to have,

00:18:17.300 uh, you're going to have the tensions just escalate the more, especially if they, if they take away and

00:18:25.800 give him a gag order. Um, they also can charge him for saying things against the district attorney,

00:18:32.540 which is insane to me. Where's your freedom of speech? What do you mean? You're not going to say

00:18:38.880 things against the district attorney. He's on television saying bad things about you. What are

00:18:44.360 you talking about? Uh, so there may be a gag order coming. Uh, uh, they may throw additional charges on

00:18:52.660 because of what he has said publicly about the district attorney. I don't know, but I just, I don't

00:18:59.700 see this being a good thing. Does this rally Republican voters in the primary? Oh yeah.

00:19:06.840 Yeah. Already has. So let me see. There's a new poll out, uh, that shows, and this poll was done

00:19:16.140 by John McLaughlin. Now this is Trump's pollster. Um, but it shows full fledged ballot test, 14 potential

00:19:26.040 Republican candidates. President Trump leads with 51%. DeSantis is now at 21 in January. President

00:19:34.920 Trump led the field 43. DeSantis was at 31 in a, uh, matchup of just DeSantis and Trump sky or Trump

00:19:44.340 skyrocketed over 60%. Now 63% total DeSantis had just 30%. Um, and in the general election,

00:19:55.320 margin of error, 3.1 Trump found leading Biden 47 to 43%. Uh, so he's, he's winning in all of them.

00:20:08.580 And it looks like, except for the general, it looks like the indictment is swaying Republicans.

00:20:17.460 I mean, you're hearing, you know, almost exclusively, I don't know, Asa Hutchinson might be the exception

00:20:22.260 to this, but even the Republican candidates running against him are saying how, uh, what a disgrace

00:20:27.240 this is, including DeSantis, including pretty much everybody coming out and saying, look, this is,

00:20:32.200 this is wrong. The question I think is, you know, politically you get past this first stage,

00:20:38.140 right? I mean, Trump is, comes into this is the overwhelming favorite. I know some of these polls

00:20:42.620 look close, but like, you know, he's, he's a former president. He controls every news cycle.

00:20:46.620 It would be, you know, he would have to in some ways blow this to not win. I mean, DeSantis has

00:20:52.600 never been proven on the stage and I like DeSantis quite a bit, but there he's never had, he's never

00:20:57.220 been in this situation before. We don't know what to expect out of a DeSantis run, assuming he does

00:21:02.020 get in, which I'm sure he will. Um, he's done a really good job in Florida. And I think there's

00:21:06.380 all expectations that he'd do a good job on a, on a national campaign, but we still haven't seen that

00:21:10.880 Trump has to be seen as the favorite. And then you see like an issue where, you know, again,

00:21:16.180 the main conversation among Republicans and their politics right now is what's going on with Donald

00:21:22.560 Trump. It seems to be the only thing we've talked about since 2015 is just this one person. And when

00:21:29.380 you're that one person, you have a massive advantage here, don't you? Yeah, you do. Um, and here's the

00:21:36.720 thing. This isn't the only, um, the only investigation you have the investigation of

00:21:42.920 election interference in Georgia. You have the classified documents, you have January 6th and

00:21:51.100 you have the stormy Daniels case. This is only one out of four, which is, is one of the most

00:21:58.040 incredible things I have ever seen in American politics. Never before has this happened.

00:22:06.020 Gerald Ford lost the reelection because, well, Gerald Ford sucked. Um, but also because he

00:22:14.100 pardoned Richard Nixon and people thought that was wrong. I happen to agree that that was wrong,

00:22:21.580 but they did it for a reason. You didn't want to have a, a sitting president go through trial.

00:22:29.880 I personally would have found that inspirational. I personally, uh, would have found a president

00:22:38.160 going to trial for an actual crime. Inspirational. No one in our government is above the law. No one

00:22:49.260 you don't get, you break the law, you go to jail. The problem is, and we see this now you can be had

00:22:57.560 with as many laws as we have, you can be had for anything. Look at how this guy has had every

00:23:05.920 single, I will bet you every single intelligence group, including the five eyes looking for dirt

00:23:15.640 on this guy. Maybe the only one that wasn't was Israel. Every other intelligence agency in the world

00:23:24.360 was looking for dirt on this guy. And the, you know, um, who was it? Maxine water says, well,

00:23:30.860 he earned this, he earned this. I'll tell you that right now. Did he, did he, who could withstand

00:23:37.780 that kind of scrutiny? I've, I've said to him myself, I got to tell you, Mr. President, I mean,

00:23:45.200 I thought, cause I, I lived in New York. I watched you build these buildings and these buildings,

00:23:51.900 remember it's too, they would just go up Trump buildings. They'd go up. Everything else would

00:23:57.020 take forever in Trump and it would be done. And I said to him, you know, you're a construction guy

00:24:04.180 in New York where everything's bottoming, you know, Hey, don't ask about Johnny. He might be at the

00:24:11.220 bottom of the river today. And I said, if anything, I thought for sure there would have been some bribes

00:24:18.820 or something going on in New York. I said, you are shockingly one of the cleanest guys. You have

00:24:26.900 to be one of the cleanest guys. Cause they've gone after everything and nothing. You get this

00:24:34.680 something that's not really a crime. What do you think about the there? Cause there's a,

00:24:41.040 there's a theory out there and I, you know, I'm whether it's coordinated or not is a separate

00:24:45.980 question, but the theory basically is that this Stormy Daniels case being the worst,

00:24:51.580 the weakest of the four or five cases that are out there, right. Um, is it was intentionally

00:24:57.120 put forth first. Now, of course it is the oldest one too. So it could just be that simple.

00:25:02.200 But the idea is that while they all want to go after Donald Trump, there weren't a lot of DAs that

00:25:08.280 wanted to be the person who pulled the trigger on the first time a president had been charged. It was a

00:25:15.700 big hurdle, a big, you know, sort of wall there. And people didn't want to be the first one to go

00:25:20.520 down that road and have to deal with all that. And now that this Stormy Daniels thing has gone

00:25:25.500 for forward, they, they're going to indict him and they have indicted him on this, that it makes

00:25:31.360 the other cases more likely to come forward because now they don't have to deal with that precedent

00:25:36.260 setting. Well, they're going to, they're going to indict, I think in Georgia, but again,

00:25:40.900 it will be laughable. You remember the, she was the foreman of the jury and she was like, yeah,

00:25:46.780 we got to get him on something. I just couldn't wait to get him on something. Uh, I mean that,

00:25:54.140 that's crazy. They're going to probably indict there. They can not indict on the, um, documents.

00:26:03.060 How are they going to possibly indict so weak than this one though? Weaker than this one. I mean,

00:26:11.500 it's, it's, they're both so weak that you would think there's no way, but if they indict him on

00:26:19.320 this, which is a misdemeanor that is out of its, uh, uh, uh, what do you call it? Uh, you know,

00:26:27.880 statute of limitations, it's outside of that. How are they even charging? If that's indeed what

00:26:35.520 they're charging with. Right. And it's really is incredible. And I think, you know, you're going

00:26:40.540 to see, you can go back and forth on all these cases. I'd love to get your take maybe a little

00:26:44.060 bit in a little while of which one you think are the most likely to come through. What, what,

00:26:47.820 what is Trump going to have to deal with here going forward?

00:26:51.840 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:26:53.680 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We were just, uh, looking up Hungary. It is where George Soros

00:27:01.500 is from and it is the country that I was thinking of 1956. The Soviet union invaded Hungary to crush

00:27:08.220 a popular uprising against the communist government. And they had already infiltrated that government

00:27:13.800 had all their people in place. They then cause chaos on the streets. Um, and, uh, then the tanks

00:27:21.140 rolled in, in 1956. Um, all right, we have, uh, Dan Kelly on, he is a candidate for the Wisconsin

00:27:28.560 Supreme court. Um, he is a former Wisconsin Supreme court justice. This race in Wisconsin

00:27:35.380 is extraordinarily important. Uh, and, uh, he is on now with us. He was up on an airplane. It was

00:27:42.760 running late. So he missed the first, uh, first exposure here just a few minutes ago. We luckily

00:27:47.960 have him on the phone now. Hi, Dan, how are you? I'm doing great, Glenn. Thank you so much for

00:27:52.840 having me on your show. This is great. You bet. Uh, you are running a very important, uh, race right

00:27:59.880 now. Um, how do you say the last name of Janet? She who must not be named. Okay. So, uh, she is,

00:28:09.160 uh, from another planet. Um, and she is not just a liberal. She is a progressive. Um, tell me the

00:28:16.720 difference between you two. Yeah, it could not be larger. Uh, it's the difference between the rule

00:28:22.180 of law and the rule of Janet Protosay Woods. And what I mean by that is, you know, in our

00:28:27.320 constitutional system, the constitution tells those in office what they are to do. And I understand

00:28:32.800 that as a Supreme court justice, your role is simply to apply the existing law to resolve the

00:28:37.920 cases that come before us. That's the rule of law, the rule of Janet. She intends to place herself

00:28:43.140 above the law. She is actually gone so far as to say that she would place her thumb on the scales

00:28:48.880 of justice to make sure the cases are resolved according to her personal politics. That is

00:28:53.720 crazy. It is crazy. It is a, uh, complete breach of trust with the people of Wisconsin. It is

00:29:01.920 unconstitutional and she is dead set on doing this. And this is why I think that this race is gaining

00:29:07.860 attention across the country because I don't think I don't, I'm not aware of any judicial

00:29:12.880 candidate in the history of the country who's ever campaigned on a platform of setting herself

00:29:18.160 above the law of rejecting the constitutional order. And yet that's what she's all about.

00:29:23.220 And there are people like George Soros, um, and governor Pritzker from Illinois who are

00:29:28.060 piling in tons of money to make sure that this happens for them. Well, I don't think that's going

00:29:33.800 to happen here in Wisconsin because I think the people of Wisconsin have really level heads on

00:29:37.560 their shoulders. They're going to see right through this. And they still treasure their,

00:29:41.660 their constitutional order. They treasure the liberties that their constitution protects.

00:29:46.360 And the last thing they want is for progressive lawyers sitting in a Madison courtroom telling them

00:29:52.000 what laws they can and cannot have and what liberties they may, may not enjoy. I think they're

00:29:56.720 going to reject that out of hand. What is the balance of the court now?

00:29:59.860 Uh, four to three and one of the, uh, constitution following, uh, justices is retiring. So this

00:30:07.920 could, this is for all the marbles. If they win this seat, the, uh, the constitutional order in

00:30:13.860 Wisconsin is going to crumble, uh, because you simply cannot have four lawyers setting themselves

00:30:20.160 above the law and, uh, reducing the other two branches of government to basically just their

00:30:25.460 hand servants. So that's the risk here. Um, but like I said, I, I think the people of Wisconsin

00:30:31.520 are going to see through this. So we just need them to come out by tomorrow, uh, no later than

00:30:36.840 eight o'clock, uh, and, uh, vote to uphold our constitutional heritage. So that's what it's,

00:30:44.120 that's what it's about. I, I just, I just want it because this is one of the most incredible

00:30:47.800 things I've ever heard. As you're talking, I'm looking it up. There are some cases that she

00:30:53.060 absolutely said she would put her thumb on the scale of justice to correct laws that she thinks

00:30:59.240 are wrong, such as congressional, uh, district maps, which she called rigged. So if, if she

00:31:07.620 disagrees with it, I mean, that is, that is, uh, that's not a judge. That's a dictator.

00:31:14.920 That's exactly right. So we call that when it happens on the court, we call it a judicial tyranny

00:31:19.560 because she would be using power that the people of Wisconsin have never loaned to her. And I

00:31:25.180 understand the authority of the court is simply on loan from the people of Wisconsin, uh, to whom

00:31:30.540 that power belongs. And she just, uh, she wants to reject all of that and become the source of

00:31:36.480 authority, the source of law. And, um, and that would just overturn the constitutional order. So,

00:31:43.020 uh, our, the future of our constitutional heritage in the state of Wisconsin is on the line,

00:31:48.580 but it's also going to have implications nationwide because of that gambit works here.

00:31:53.540 There will be people who pick that up and use it as a template to push other courts in activist and

00:31:59.180 political directions to set up judicial tyrannies in other States. I know a, um, I know a federal judge

00:32:05.300 who said the lower courts are already out of control. He said, um, he has seen, uh, court rulings

00:32:12.300 where the judge has said, um, this law doesn't make any sense. And we're doing this and completely

00:32:21.580 untethered from the constitution or the rule of law, no matter what that rise, a law is, um, in 2020,

00:32:29.500 um, there was a $10 million bounty for this seat. They spent $10 million for that race. That was the

00:32:39.520 record. The national record is $15 million spent in Illinois. Um, already there's more than $37

00:32:49.240 million spent on this race. Yeah. We're expecting it to go, uh, north of 50 million by the end of

00:32:56.560 the day tomorrow. That is unbelievable. Please tell me some of that money is for our side. It is. Uh,

00:33:03.820 and so fortunately there are folks around the country that still value the constitutional order

00:33:09.660 who understand that the role of the court is just to apply the law, not to make it up,

00:33:14.060 not to change it, not to ignore it, but just to faithfully apply it every day as the constitution

00:33:19.820 commands them. And so they've, uh, they've come along and, uh, they've been supporting our efforts

00:33:25.240 here in Wisconsin. And, uh, and there's been enough, uh, that we've been able to get the information

00:33:30.800 to all the folks across Wisconsin, uh, so that they can exercise an intelligent choice, uh, by 8 PM

00:33:37.640 tomorrow. So, uh, so yeah, um, my opponent's got a ton of money and she'll outspend us. Uh, but I'm

00:33:43.880 not too worried about that because that bill of goods that she's trying to sell, I don't think

00:33:48.440 there's enough money in the country to sell that to the good people in Wisconsin. I don't know. I mean,

00:33:53.100 I, I, so I don't know how to judge the American people anymore. I know that there's good people

00:33:59.420 out there on both sides. Um, but there's not a lot of people that are awake on the other side.

00:34:07.200 Uh, and you know, we're, we're sitting here facing some of the worst times our country has ever had.

00:34:14.260 And it doesn't seem like the American people really even know what's going on.

00:34:19.080 Yeah. Well, Glenn, you, I, and I think there is, you're, you're, uh, reflecting a measure of

00:34:24.800 concern that I do have. Um, you and I both know, uh, what it took to originally secure the liberties

00:34:31.200 that we cherish so well, you know, at the end of the declaration of independence, right before

00:34:37.440 everyone signed their names, they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.

00:34:42.760 And many of them lost their lives or were bankrupted or convicted of treason, but they didn't count that

00:34:48.600 a price too high to pay to secure those liberties. Now, today we still have a responsibility of

00:34:55.660 securing those liberties, but it's a pretty easy thing to do. You just got to vote. You don't have

00:35:01.940 to lay your life on the line. You don't have to face bankruptcy. You don't have to sacrifice your

00:35:06.420 sacred honor. You just need to come out and vote. And yet I'm worried that because it costs so

00:35:12.380 little, that people might value it little. Uh, so our project really is to remind the people of

00:35:18.840 Wisconsin who they are, uh, that they are the bosses, uh, in this form of government. And it's

00:35:23.820 their responsibility to come out and make sure that we secure our constitutional heritage so we can

00:35:29.600 hand that down to the next generation. They can do the same after that. It just comes, uh, comes down

00:35:35.540 to coming out. Now last fall, there were 2.6 million people that came out to vote. And we're expecting

00:35:41.560 that if it, uh, if we reach 1.6 to 1.8 million by the end of the day tomorrow, that'll be a lot.

00:35:47.520 But think about that. That's an 800,000 to a million vote drop off between fall and spring.

00:35:53.620 And so our project is to get to all of them and remind them of the importance of securing our

00:35:59.860 heritage, because there is nothing written. And I know you've talked about this before, Glenn.

00:36:03.940 There's nothing written that says that we are guaranteed to have our constitution from one

00:36:09.100 generation to the next. No, we have to do that. We have to stand up and make sure that we secure it

00:36:15.580 so that we can hand that down. And we do that through voting. It's, it's so easy to do.

00:36:20.080 What's really, um, so frustrating, uh, Dan, by the way, we are, we are talking to Dan Kelly. He is

00:36:26.440 running for, uh, the Supreme court in Wisconsin. Tomorrow is the last day to vote. It is extraordinarily

00:36:33.820 important that you vote for Dan Kelly in Wisconsin. Do it today. Last chance is tomorrow. Um, but, uh,

00:36:43.420 Dan, you know, what's so frustrating is our founders knew this in Thomas Jefferson said

00:36:48.420 that it's not right. I'm paraphrasing horribly that we would rule from the grave.

00:36:53.980 It needs to be up to every generation, but they made that part of the constitution. You can change

00:37:02.460 it by, by, uh, you know, changing the constitution through amendments, but they don't do that. They

00:37:09.360 never do that. Instead, they undermine the constitution and get activist judges, which is

00:37:15.140 not a democracy. That's not how a Republic for sure, but even a democracy is supposed to work.

00:37:22.640 Yeah. It's just lawless when that happens. And it's not like we don't know how to do this.

00:37:27.940 I mean, we've amended the United States constitution 27 times. We've amended the

00:37:32.180 Wisconsin constitution more times than I can remember. So we know how to do this when, when,

00:37:36.560 when the document needs to change, uh, we can do that, but we follow the constitutional order.

00:37:42.120 That's what we require. So these, uh, these, uh, uh, politicians who want to dress up like judges

00:37:47.940 laws and go to the Supreme court so that they can set aside laws that they don't like so that they

00:37:52.480 can change the meaning of our constitution. So it's more compatible with what they want.

00:37:56.480 They are rejecting the very idea of law law has to have a fixed and discernible meaning.

00:38:02.820 And if it changes depending on what a judge says, then it's not really law at all. It's just the

00:38:09.320 judge exercising law power. So, um, so it really is about protecting the concept of law. It's about

00:38:17.460 protecting the concept of the constitutional order. Um, real quick, cause I've only got about, uh,

00:38:23.220 90 seconds here. You are for, um, you know, actual sentencing of criminals. The lenience for

00:38:31.020 criminals is not part of your playbook. You support the second amendment. It's not clear if she does,

00:38:36.700 but she's supported by gun, gun control groups. Um, the, uh, life question, you are pro-life. She is

00:38:44.520 very pro-abortion. Um, and the lockdowns, uh, from COVID, where do you stand against them?

00:38:52.600 Where was she or where is she? So, yeah. So I think that she favors, uh, lawmaking wherever it might

00:39:00.060 occur according to her particular tastes. Now what I do, uh, you know, I was on the court, uh, while the

00:39:05.620 lockdown occurred and the lockdown order came to us for review. And, um, by a four to three decision,

00:39:11.980 we decided that it was an unlawful order. Uh, but two of us on the court, justice, Rebecca Bradley

00:39:17.580 and I, we looked at that and we said, well, there's a, there's a more serious question about

00:39:22.440 whether more than whether it went through the rule promulgation process. It was a question of

00:39:26.900 whether the executive branch agencies could use the power of the legislature to actually make laws

00:39:33.380 all by themselves for the state of Wisconsin. And so we looked at that and we said that was

00:39:37.880 unconstitutional. We struck down that order, uh, so that people could continue to enjoy the right

00:39:43.700 to set their own laws in conversation with their legislatures. So they're not having an executive

00:39:49.220 branch bureaucrat usurp that power and exercise it on, uh, when they have no right or authority to do so.

00:39:55.920 Uh, justice Daniel Kelly. Thank you so much. If you want to know more about him, you bet. Good luck.

00:40:01.120 Uh, you want to know more about him justice, Daniel Kelly.com. Uh, it is vital. If you are in

00:40:07.200 Wisconsin, you were thinking, ah, it doesn't matter. If this matters to all of us vote, Daniel Kelly,

00:40:14.060 uh, in, uh, the, uh, Wisconsin Supreme court, what, whatever way you vote. I mean, I hope you vote

00:40:21.620 for Daniel, but whatever you, way you vote, your voice must be heard in Wisconsin. Last day to vote

00:40:27.520 vote is tomorrow.

00:40:28.460 Na, na, na, na, na.

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