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Joe Biden and Glenn Beck are joined by Stu to talk about Andrew Cuomo. They talk about his sexual harassment scandal, his new book, and the thousands of old people he murdered. They also discuss how he got paid for his crimes.
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Hello, I'm Joe Biden, and I think this is a Glenn Beck podcast where they talk about
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I have something so delicious, I cannot wait, but I'm going to, I'm going to, because Stu
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begs me every day, we're going to talk about Cuomo, aren't we?
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We're going to talk about Cuomo, because he's the worst, you know, and I say, Hitler was
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pretty bad, Stu, and you keep telling me not to talk about Hitler.
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I mean, Hitler, not alive, so he's not as much of a current threat, despite what the media
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Hitler killed old people, Cuomo killed old people.
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It'd be, you know, the Hitler family moved to Long Island after World War II.
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You did expose the other people in the Hitler family the other day, which was fascinating
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All right, so what are you whining about with Cuomo?
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So a lot of people have been talking about the sexual harassment part of the Cuomo saga,
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There's still a report coming from the attorney general of the state.
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Here's one thing we do know, however, 100%, other than just andrewcuomoisawful.com, we
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know that, but we also know that Andrew Cuomo doesn't care what you think about him and his
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There is a legal definition of harassment that is very clear.
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All I was saying is just uncomfortable does not mean sexual harassment.
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You make me uncomfortable by some of the questions you ask me.
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There are other elements that also have to be added.
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That is so funny because he's making light of the women he's been groping, you know,
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Once you know the context that he's been accused, you know, of intimate relationships with people,
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Now, despite all of his handsy escapades that he's been participating in, I happen to be one
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of the people who think the larger issue is the thousands of old people he murdered.
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Now, for months, as you know, Glenn, the numbers of victims of Cuomo's policies were both known
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Now, the same could be said about his compensation for his viscerally repulsive book, which I
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The working title was How to Enrich Yourself by Murdering Grandparents.
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It was one of the times it could have been kicked around.
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It was actually called American Crisis, which is the title of the book and also what he unleashed
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Uh, so before we got the truth about what his compensation was, he decided, um, to, of
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course, make a few little announcements, Glenn.
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Hours before the release of the figures, Mr. Cuomo made a series of major pandemic related
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announcements, including the end of most mask mandates in the state for vaccinated New Yorkers.
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The loosening of capacity restrictions on businesses and the return of the New York City Marathon
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I guess the science just supported that change in policy a few hours before his announcement.
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He was just following the science and the science said that this science should be announced
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as a distraction before an embarrassing admission.
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What was the announcement that was so embarrassing that Stu was trying to say he was hiding that
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he, for his horrible scam of a book, he just, you know, received $5.12 million in advance
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Look, if he had only done nothing, what an amazing thing that would be for the state
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If he had done nothing, nursing homes would have just said, well, of course we're not
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going to take COVID positive patients into our nursing homes with the most vulnerable
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So him doing nothing would have saved lives is what you're saying.
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Nothing would have been much better than Cuomo.
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Literally having no governor at all would have been far superior from someone who seemed
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intent of wiping everyone over 65 years old off the planet.
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Now, you may not be in the business of ending lives of innocent people for profit.
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So you may not realize how much money this is for a book deal.
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Almost no one, no one makes the kind of cash we're talking about, you know, now in 2021.
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According to the publishing world, the revelation of Mr. Cuomo's payment elicited shock.
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The amount appeared to be a staggering sum to pay to a politician who already had a meager
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sales record for his previous book, a memoir that just sold a few thousand print copies.
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And I will say this, even if you take away $1.12 million from the total, it's still completely
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And we know that for sure, because it was initially reported that Cuomo earned $4 million for the
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In fact, let me quote here how the left-wing magazine, The New Republic, covered it.
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Why would anyone pay Andrew Cuomo $4 million for a book?
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And remember, that's an incredible amount for any author.
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But Cuomo is quite possibly the worst single author in the history of words.
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Quoting, seven years ago, on the eve of being elected to a second term as governor of New
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York, Andrew Cuomo completed a rite of passage familiar to all presidential aspirants.
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He published a memoir, All Things Are Possible.
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It's overlong at more than 550 pages, cliche-ridden and hopelessly dull, which is to say a standard
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Cuomo was paid more than $700,000 in advance by HarperCollins.
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The book had an announced initial run of $200,000.
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But five months after it was published, it had sold just 3,000 copies in hardcover and 13 audiobooks.
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Even by the dismal standards of the sub-genre of books by politicians, this was a flop.
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Based on a conservative estimate of the governor's advance, Cuomo earned about $200 for every
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I'm legitimately telling you it was like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13.
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I just gave you the entire history of the book.
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I mean, it's hard to overstate how much of a catastrophe that is in every single way.
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So, when that happens to you, I'm just saying, you wouldn't ever write another book ever again.
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And sheer, just out of shame, really guilty feelings on, gee, I just took $700,000 from
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these people, and 13 audiobooks were downloaded.
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And so, how did this new book work out for the company?
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There's no question that they lost their shirts and that Cuomo was the beneficiary of what only
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can be characterized as a bad commercial decision.
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This is the founder and chief executive of Ideological, a publishing consultancy.
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Bad commercial decision is quite a way to put it.
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It's basically like calling the importation of, I don't know, COVID-positive patients into
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It is true, but a little bit of an understatement.
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Quote, the more successful than its predecessor, you know, the one that sold 13 copies in audiobook,
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It, too, is a disaster from a sales standpoint.
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And that was before Cuomo was hit with a cascade of scandals.
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Its publisher, Crown, stopped promoting it earlier this year.
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American crisis even plays a supporting role in one of those scandals.
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While Cuomo and his aides were working or were at work on the book, they were simultaneously
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working to undercount nursing home deaths early in the pandemic, according to the New York Times.
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It's not just that the book was a catastrophe sales-wise, which it was.
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And it's not just that it was a failure, which it certainly was.
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It's that the book itself was a big part of the problem.
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Quote, last summer, top aides to Mr. Cuomo gathered at the governor's mansion with editors
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to read from the manuscript, a memoir of the pandemic's first months.
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The aides, who had been directly involved in the pandemic response, took turns reading passages
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According to two people with knowledge of the gathering, which began on a Friday and stretched
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into the weekend, the governor also read aloud from the work.
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So in the same place, the same location, he was allegedly groping women.
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The craziest part about all of this is not that he may have forced his staffers to help
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write the book, which is against the law, or that he completely failed.
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But there's no way there is no way this could have succeeded.
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There was no path to success by giving him this much money.
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Industry figures have estimated that the figure of assumed sales to justify this contract would
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be in the very high six figures and possibly over a million, an astonishing number, particularly
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It points to the kind of mania that grips some publishing houses and the bubbles that
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Cuomo's popularity among a certain set was so profound that the idea that American Crisis
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could be the kind of book that makes a publishing house's year took hold.
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So you can sit here and we can mock him for saying he only sold 5% of expectations, which
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But 50,000 books for Andrew Cuomo is like a literal miracle.
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I mean, he outperformed all expectations by like 10 times and still was only at 1 20th of
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Oh, I have some, I have such good news, such good news.
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And again, I know nothing about this company or this 501c3.
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They have decided to go after the woke companies, all of these companies, from Coca-Cola to Nike
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And I want to play three ads that they've just released that they need to go everywhere.
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American Airlines, rated the worst, losing the most bags, shrinking legroom during COVID.
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American requires passengers to show ID to fly, but attacks Texas's popular voter ID law.
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Why is CEO Doug Parker trying to appease the radical left?
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To distract from billions of taxpayer bailouts, from his $10 million payday, from Americans' record layoffs.
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It's like a political attack ad, but just aimed at a company.
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Bill said to me at one point, he said, look, you're going to get a lot of heat.
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He said, so when you have a fight that you don't think you can win, let me in.
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And he said, oh, I'll talk directly to the CEO on TV.
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And he said, CEOs do not like their name in the press.
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They don't like it applied to controversy or anything about them.
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They like it when their name is mentioned, you know, in newspaper articles about how great they are, but not tied to any kind of scandal.
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This company is going and saying, gee, is it because they lost all this money and had to have a big bailout from the government?
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Congressional reports suspect Nike used forced labor in China.
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Religious minorities were ripped from their families, sterilized, sold to factories.
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Rather than hiring Americans, Nike chose China.
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From years of dismal sales, terrible 2020 results.
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Reports suspecting they benefited from forced labor in China.
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Coca-Cola products are poisoning America's youth and worsening the obesity epidemic.
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So the company tried funding phony science to minimize the harms.
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James Quincy poisoning America's youth with the footnotes underneath it.
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Do you have to watch these as TV commercials with the footnotes underneath it on why that's a true statement?
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Now, our job is you go to consumersresearch.org.
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Go there now and click on the Say No to Woke Companies.
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The Woke Companies campaign, Say No to Woke Companies, is at consumersresearch.org.
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America, you finally have somebody in your corner that is actually fighting for you.
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You know, usually you don't hear attack ads against products and companies.
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Were you old enough to remember the fight against big tobacco?
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I don't know why I'm separating that, but I think in a way, it's almost like Pepsi would
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run and should run commercials against Coke like this, like a competitor, right?
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That is trying to say, look at all the bad things that are happening with this particular
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Because while its motivation seems to be stop getting involved in woke politics, it's not
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It's just profiling really bad things that have happened with the company that the company
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So the problem is, is that they know Pepsi's never going to do that because Pepsi doesn't
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want to get on the other side of the woke culture.
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You know, they're probably most likely part of it.
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And so you don't you don't have to wear the masks anymore.
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It's called Morton Williams supermarkets, and it's caught up in the conflicts on the
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Morton Williams customers are sharply divided over the grocery chain's decision.
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Controversy kicked off Monday when the popular supermarket emailed customers about its decision
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to comply to comply to comply with the new CDC coronavirus guidelines starting Wednesday when
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The short email just explained the new policy and the Big Apple grocer said we will not ask
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Well, that was stomping on a hornet's nest and the the chain put out another email just
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We recently sent you an email explaining our policy regarding masks in doing so.
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We knew that we were stepping into a hornet's nest and that many would feel that this is a
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premature decision better suited for a later day.
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Well, we didn't know that we would be held hostage.
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I am now in front of this flag of the world culture, and I'm reading this statement.
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We will put up signs encouraging customers and employees to continue wearing masks regardless
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And and and please be respectful to those who do not feel comfortable.
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They're now telling the mask, the non mask wearing population of New York that they have
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to be kind to the mask wearing people of New York who are not following the science.
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You want to wear a mask for the rest of your life.
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I think it's ridiculous, but especially if you're ugly, that's OK.
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Like, I wish there was a mask for my entire body, but there's not yet.
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Unfortunately, it doesn't do enough for me anymore.
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Anyway, anyway, the you know, if you don't want to wear a mask, fine.
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Then why aren't you following the science when the CDC scientists reluctantly finally come
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to the conclusion that you don't need to wear a mask?
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Well, I and I think you hit on the most frustrating part about this, because, yes, it's really
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frustrating when they don't follow the science and all of that.
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The excruciating part of this is is being berated for a year for not wearing a mask outside
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And now the second the CDC admits what we've all known the entire time, that there's no
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There have been zero documented cases outside of close conversation outdoors in the entire
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According to that number, let me just say you that that number is zero, zero.
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We've taken people screaming at us for following the science.
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And now day one after the CDC decides to admit what has been known about vaccinations for a
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very long time, that this is not something you need to worry about.
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But then we're like, they're like, oh, gosh, please don't criticize.
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You guys aren't going to get upset about this, are you?
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You guys aren't going to start criticizing people who make different choices than you.
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Everyone has a right for their own decision making and risk assessment.
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And you need to make sure you don't be mean to others.
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You're telling us that after this year, you're coming to us with that nonsense after all of this.
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She she had the set to be able to go on television and say, you know, I'm going to have to rewire
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my whole thinking because I have to stop seeing people not wearing a mask and think you're a
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I mean, the problem is the problem is they have viewed America through this lens.
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Their little mask is like a little armband saying what party they belong to, say a little
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And anybody who didn't wear a mask, that was like a Jewish star.
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They could see who the enemy was and they liked those categories.
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And, you know, they've been pushing it and pushing it and pushing it.
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And now that the science agrees with those who didn't wear a mask or don't want to wear
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Now, the science says, yep, you don't have to wear a mask.
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And yet they bashed this supermarket so badly for just complying with the law and science
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that they humbly withdrew and said, well, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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We'll we'll ask everybody if they'll still wear a mask.
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So I want to bring in David Harsany, who is, I think, a brilliant, brilliant man.
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I rue the day that we let him escape from our clutches.
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David Harsany is now the senior writer at National Review and wrote a couple of articles
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One is let's start here with the abortion and the abortion bill that the Supreme Court
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I want to run this theory by you on why the Supreme Court took this particular case, because
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they have they've passed a lot of cases up and but they took this one up and and the the
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logic from my friends who watch the Supreme Court and know kind of these things said that
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they've been looking for the right case and they only took on one aspect of this.
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And that is the 15 months, you know, viability law and weeks, 15 weeks, of course.
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And the reason why my friend tells me that this is happening is because this is the way
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But you have to come in at something reasonable.
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People can agree with Roe versus Wade is is all about viability.
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And so they're moving that to slowly make this their first pitch in with something scientific
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and not something that is religious or based on morals, per se.
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I mean, I don't know, you know, the idea that there have some kind of political angle
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that they're looking at is something I wish that they wouldn't do.
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So if that's the case, the viability aspect is a good one, because as a political matter,
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most Americans are not if not totally against abortion, want the restrictions after the
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So viability, which is always changing, which actually proves that the whole idea of viability
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is nonsense, actually, is a good issue to, you know, to tether to as you move forward.
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And even if you don't change anything else, eventually we get down to the baby is viable
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at any time, you know, just because of science and the way it is, it's moving forward.
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Let's talk a little bit about the unless you want you have something else you want to go
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into your your article on abortion was great, by the way.
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I just wanted to make the quick point that that the idea that, you know, you don't have
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technology to save someone doesn't mean that they're not alive.
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In the 1700s, we couldn't save people from infection.
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That's a rational, non-religious argument to make to people.
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It's a moral argument, but I think it's a strong one.
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Um, you are one of my favorite people and, and, uh, you are just a, uh, a passionate person
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You just wrote an article for the national review.
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David, I don't, I don't think even, even under Obama, I don't think it was this bad.
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I don't think I have ever seen such clear cut good versus evil.
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And we seem to always be picking the side of evil in the last few months.
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I mean, listen, Israel is an imperfect plate democracy or, you know, a democratic nation
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like many others, a liberal nation where there are courts of law and, and, uh, people are
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allowed to defend themselves and the nation is allowed to defend themselves.
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So, you know, I have no problem with people who are critical of Israel, but when you take
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the side of Hamas, which is just, it's a death cult essentially that wants not only to
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kill Israeli civilians, they want their own civilians martyred in this cause.
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I just, it escapes me how anyone, anyone with any kind of moral understanding of the
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world can, can make an equivalency between the two.
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Whether you believe Palestinians should have a state or not, this is not about that.
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And, uh, you know, every country, any country, our country, we would respond probably in, in
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a more, more aggressive way than, than even the Israelis are doing.
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If you think about what Hamas is doing, they're embedded within civilian populations.
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Then you, do you realize that the amount of civilians who are unfortunately dying in this
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conflict is actually rather small compared to other ones.
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So I just, it's hard for me to even understand this one.
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Many, you know, most things on the left, I try to understand their point of view, but this
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Hamas boosterism within, you know, I don't understand it, but I do think a lot of it has
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to do that we're talking with the fact that we're talking about Jews here.
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Well, that was, um, I had, uh, Dershowitz on yesterday at talking about this and he said
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He said, look, you don't see the squad or anybody outraged by Tibet and what's happening
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in Tibet or, you know, what's happening with the Uyghurs.
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And he said, the reason is the only logical conclusion he can come to is because their
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He said, if they were Jews, they'd probably care all of a sudden.
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And not just that they're Jews, maybe that they're Westerners, you know, in the sense
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of colonizing this area and people have a bad grasp of the history of this situation.
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They always want to go back in time and restart history in 1948 or 1967 or even before.
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So when you see Rashida Tlaib, Nakba never ended, give the audience a definition of what
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Well, you know, they were constantly talking about occupied territory, but when you say
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Nakba, which means that I think it's translated as the catastrophe, you're talking about 1948.
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You're talking about the very existence of the Jewish state.
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For her, um, occupied territory is all territory, even towns that have Jewish names dating back
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to, you know, before Christ, and that she believes that that all should belong to a new
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Palestinian state, which is, of course, never existed as an Arab country ever.
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We're not actually talking about, you know, 1967 armistice lines.
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Why are people, I mean, David, it seems so clear to me, um, you know, who the Nazis are,
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I mean, they, they keep saying that the, the right is, uh, is all about white supremacy,
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I honestly don't know anybody who is, I know they exist, but that is a very, very small number.
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And they keep calling us Nazis because we believe in the constitution, which is not part of the
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However, these, uh, you know, the squad is saying things that the Nazis would agree with.
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And many people, uh, on Twitter, you can still find their, their statements glorifying the killings of, of Jews.
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Does, does this continue down this road or do we wake up or not?
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Well, I'm sure you've seen, there are people who compare how progressives speak and how white supremacists speak.
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And it's often quite similar in their outlook on the world.
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It's, it, it, it, uh, takes away agency from people and just makes it all about the way they're born,
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which is the exact opposite of what, you know, Martin Luther King Jr.
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Um, so I think that, that in many ways, they transpose that kind of thinking onto every situation.
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So like Israel, it's about white people and brown people.
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When in fact, hundreds of thousands of Israelis are refugees from Arab nations who never lived in the West,
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And, uh, you know, but they can't understand that, that not everything is about race.
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I am actually, I've always sort of thought that, you know, rhetoric about the end of the country,
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about the end of the constitution was overdone, but now I don't think that anymore.
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I think it's in real trouble because I don't think that the left progressive left at least believes
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in neutral principles that are in the constitution, free speech, you know, individual rights of any kind.
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And the younger you are, the less you believe in it.
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And now that they run the schools and the colleges and the, you know, and the big business,
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I don't know how you, you turn it around anymore.
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Well, that's, uh, that's more depressing than I used to make you, uh, when we would talk, uh,
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I remember times when I would tell you stuff and you'd be like, okay, I don't believe any of that.
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Um, how much of the responsibility of this, and this is one hope that I have that Americans will wake up
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because they saw low gas prices, jobs being created, not phantom jobs, but jobs, prices kept low, uh,
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and peace in the middle East and the right track with China and Russia.
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And now all of it is coming undone all at once.
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And my hope is that people will actually see, well, wait a minute.
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Yeah, I didn't like the way he tweeted and I didn't like some of the things he did, but compared to this,
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And I, I think there's, there's the possibility that they're exposing themselves because, correct me if I'm wrong,
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Biden's policy, the reversal of the, the foreign policy that Trump had is the reason we have this happening, uh, over in Israel now.
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I think part of it is, is definitely the reversal having to do with Iran, having to do with releasing funds to the Palestinian authority,
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having to do with the Palestinian authority, trying to create a problem to push the Biden administration,
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to push Israel into some sort of deal, things like that.
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Um, and I think there will be blowback in the larger sense to what's going on because if things turn poorly in the economy,
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people react that way and they have for a long time.
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And in fact, even though Donald Trump lost, the Republicans actually did relatively well in that election as far as the house goes and things like that.
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My problem with that is that that's, you know, economic and, and, and something I agree with.
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However, there are underlying issues having to do with the constitution that I'm not sure people are really, uh, you know, grasping or, you know,
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my own kids go to school and the things they learn are really off to me, to say the least.
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He is a senior writer, national review and author of Euro trash, which is coming out.
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Make sure you come back, uh, for that at least, but we'll have you back before then.