The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Dinesh D’Souza

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00:01:27.380 pat is filling in for stew today who is off again uh don't know i mean he's practically johnny carson

00:01:37.340 if anybody remembers him it's easier to remember uh the days he was here uh i think it was last

00:01:43.600 yeah it is wednesday yeah it's kind of like with us it's like when were you gone oh it was christmas

00:01:48.860 uh and then over the new year holiday yeah right spring break with stew it's like when was he here

00:01:55.060 oh yeah that day that was a special day yeah that was a special day according to reports now up to

00:02:01.600 six chinese warships are currently stationed in the middle east china's people liberation army the cpla

00:02:08.880 reported engagement in a joint military exercise with uh omani navy while visiting oman again it's like

00:02:18.180 you know when when mexico got their hostages you know are there people out of israel and they use

00:02:25.240 their air force i thought to myself i didn't even know mexico had an air force same thing with oman

00:02:30.720 don't know i can even find it on a map and they have a navy that's cute no it's cute it's kind

00:02:37.300 it's probably a little like uh uh you know the cayman islands and uh the british version virgin

00:02:44.000 islands or they just use british ships because i don't think they're british still anymore no it got

00:02:49.880 rid of those occupiers i'll tell you that right now so uh the uh navy uh escort task force uh is uh now

00:03:01.220 by kuwait which is right there uh near uh iran which i think is really really no seriously it's exciting

00:03:11.460 now my question is why has israel not responded what is happening there now i've got a couple of ideas

00:03:25.360 uh on this one um the new york times is reporting that the u.s is advising israel to delay the gaza

00:03:35.000 invasion uh for needed hostage negotiation now apparently two americans got out uh the the uh

00:03:45.560 palestinians have returned two american hostages over the weekend uh i love it that we're working with

00:03:52.620 qatar um because you know they're i mean they're just the number one funder of the muslim brotherhood

00:03:59.680 so and that's you know big big funder and founder of uh of hamas so that's that's really good i hope

00:04:07.220 we i hope we gave them some money in exchange for these hostages i don't know if it's about the

00:04:14.420 hostages as much as it is a very convenient way for the united states to delay any kind of grounded

00:04:22.560 invasion until all the media turns on israel because that's what's happening they're already saying

00:04:29.300 they haven't even done anything yet they're like there's such a bad country they're gonna kill all these

00:04:35.740 people and if they would have acted last week or the week before you would have seen uh more sympathy

00:04:44.740 but i think we are i think this is a complete uh game that the white house is playing to keep uh bb netanyahu

00:04:56.120 and the israelis from not striking however there is another possibility obviously you know i'm not in the

00:05:05.140 rooms uh advising anyone but i did think are they just preparing to go to the head of the snake

00:05:14.040 now i don't think so but we do know that they that israel i mean uh iran now has one nuclear weapon

00:05:25.640 and are just about to develop its second nuclear weapon so is it possible that they are just going to

00:05:34.600 target uh iran its clerics or its nuclear facilities now the nuclear facility

00:05:43.900 is supposedly buried so long so deep that you're not supposed to be able to knock it out with any

00:05:52.500 kind of conventional weapon the army seems ready to go they've been ready for a few days aerial

00:05:59.940 bombardments meant to prepare the ground you know are meeting with diminishing returns now at this point

00:06:05.740 and the widely accepted reason over in israel is international press pressure plus the long train of

00:06:16.080 visiting dignitaries and possible negotiations uh the problem with the latter is that hamas will

00:06:24.240 probably go for the drip drip approach meaning to drag out more time and the media will continue to

00:06:31.740 turn on israel if they're going to target iran most likely they'll target the uh nuclear installations

00:06:39.720 um what was the reactor didn't they they did this in like 1981 i think um and you know they went after

00:06:50.360 the reactor and it was was good now maybe if the main operation is successful this time uh you'll see

00:06:57.760 the massad taking out a few top scientists and military leaders as we have in the past but um you know

00:07:04.920 gad sad said that this would take incredible i'm quoting testicular fortitude um and uh i don't know

00:07:14.620 most are saying it can't be done different from 1981 blah blah blah it's difficult but they all said that

00:07:21.360 it couldn't be done back in 1981 as well i mean you know the tom cruise guys they do exist they're just

00:07:27.840 they're probably as short but not as good looking and most of them are probably israelis uh so you know

00:07:36.140 they kind of have this don't mess with us kind of image but we'll see if they can pull it off uh that

00:07:43.520 means the testicular uh area may be made out of steel uh on bb netanyahu i'm i'm not really uh i'm not

00:07:53.500 really sure but we will uh continue to uh to watch this uh let's see there's a couple of other things

00:08:02.300 that would majorly escalate this thing however um my i think they understand that i think we understand

00:08:09.280 that and i'm sure the administration is strongly recommending they don't do that what are they

00:08:17.140 going to do no i think i think they should do it um but i don't i don't know they you know they are

00:08:24.680 the head of the snake right and that's the only way to put a stop to this yeah and so but it does

00:08:32.260 escalate things so i think pretty much anything they're doing decision i mean when i saw that china

00:08:37.980 now china was there already yeah but to have them move their ships in shows you know that's iran

00:08:46.280 and russia so there is an axis of evil and those three are together and with us against us yes against

00:08:55.680 us right yeah but they're all in the same yes general vicinity i mean if this if this goes wrong

00:09:01.060 we are at world war three quickly no doubt yeah there's all kinds of things that could go wrong

00:09:08.900 that are just you know somebody makes a mistake there's a hair trigger by somebody and and it's on

00:09:14.620 it's it's a really dangerous situation so you have the rest of the world however turning and you look

00:09:22.680 at what's happening around the world england is going to turn against israel because i don't think

00:09:27.980 england's going to have a choice i mean these countries have allowed themselves to be laid waste

00:09:37.780 by so many um islamists it's not islam it is islamists people who believe that uh the koran

00:09:51.420 must be implemented as the highest source of law those guys are crazy i know some muslims that are

00:09:59.900 not crazy um but they're reformed and they'd be the first the islamists would behead so they're the

00:10:07.660 kind of people that shut their mouth you know in their own community because they don't want to be dead

00:10:12.600 um but look at what happened over the weekend in london it was not good it was not good uh and you're

00:10:23.380 starting to see um uh moves there was a uh they won't even give the details of the terrorist strike

00:10:33.460 in london did you hear about this pat no so in london first of all the bbc uh will not say

00:10:42.580 that hamas is a terrorist group the bbc um and that's really kind of um uh not good

00:10:51.780 fueling more anti um israel and anti-semitism um because they're they they won't uh say that

00:11:01.340 the palestinian hamas was wrong uh they're saying you know that it's a no it's a charity

00:11:09.100 it's a charity uh sure it is sure it is uh there was there was a hit in london i think it was let

00:11:17.460 me see if i can find this real quick there was a hit uh where the authorities won't even say

00:11:24.260 uh what what exactly happened uh they said that it was yeah here pro-palestinian terror attack

00:11:35.200 alleged terror attack has already been carried out in britain by an asylum seeker waiting to avenge

00:11:42.300 deaths in gaza uh according to the telegraph the man who came to this country in 2020

00:11:48.420 told police look at that it's 2023 yeah okay told police he had carried out the uh as yet

00:11:56.240 undisclosed action for palestine newspaper reports the case cannot fully be revealed for legal reasons

00:12:03.660 but that the suspect is now in custody after being arrested he said he had done it because

00:12:09.120 israel had killed children in gaza now that's a bizarre thing he's already carried out his mission

00:12:17.000 but they won't say what it was yeah what does that what kind of what is that questions have been

00:12:25.820 raised over why details about the incident had not been disclosed but security source told the

00:12:30.460 publication they may be downplaying it so they don't have a repeat attack or copycats uh attacks

00:12:36.660 nations around the world are on high alert so-called lone wolf attacks by extremists motivated by the

00:12:42.260 worsening situation in the middle east in brussels uh belgium on monday uh a man with a gun uh down to

00:12:52.840 uh swedish football supporters before later being shot dead by the police

00:12:57.220 he was motivated by his palestinian uh love because they're just such lovely charitable people

00:13:05.380 he was just giving away bullets and so he gives the bullets away too fast for some people who are you

00:13:12.480 to judge who are you to judge um so you have the terror threat all over europe going up how are you

00:13:22.060 going to how is france going to handle this if israel goes in and uh bombs iran or uh does more with

00:13:32.180 hamas you're going to have all of these western countries say stop it stop it right now because

00:13:38.820 they'll be in trouble so you're gonna what sacrifice the jewish state is that is that what happens

00:13:45.900 that's uh foretold somewhere somewhere um i'm trying to think it's weird too isn't it it was like

00:13:55.700 was it michael buble who foretold that i think it

00:13:58.540 fly me to the moon where all the nations gather around yeah that's what it was yeah something like

00:14:08.540 that yeah they're all against israel or something yeah something that's and do you remember how we

00:14:13.080 never i mean when we talked about this 30 years ago together um we didn't we couldn't understand

00:14:20.900 how we'd be on the wrong side of that yeah this is the best of the glenn beck program and we really

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00:14:32.980 the in the house this week they're going to start with about 10 candidates uh in a caucus uh and

00:14:42.740 then outside uh they're not going to do anything until they have 217 and they have 217 in the

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00:15:02.240 today it should should post i don't know by probably one or two o'clock eastern time uh there's a couple

00:15:09.120 of other things um you know pat and i were just you know talking about you know what are the odds what

00:15:16.740 are the odds that we're in world war three you know i don't know 50 50 i hope i hope at best perhaps

00:15:24.700 and i think people know this right do the average sarah you would be much you're much closer to the

00:15:33.920 people than us you're on that side of the glass and all of the little people are on that side of

00:15:40.400 the glass so how do you do it anyway uh uh uh are average people thinking about like and talking about

00:15:51.900 you know hey war yeah no they're not no they're worried about taylor swift and the chiefs

00:15:59.160 by the way i have a solution for that okay i have a solution for that i think we need to

00:16:05.040 uh have some sort of redistribution of taylor swift so it's not fair kansas city gets all this

00:16:13.100 attention she should have to have some sort of romantic interlude with somebody on every nfl team

00:16:20.320 you know yeah i think it's only fair yeah i mean we're talking the economy you know it's not who is

00:16:28.660 she could come in to affect the economy that way what right does she have that economy belongs to all

00:16:34.620 of us right so in she should have to support fairly every show and every team i'm adding show just i'm

00:16:44.240 just saying i'm just saying i don't have anything that i'm thinking of in particular but that's the

00:16:51.340 way we do that so you're you're saying it's not that they're are they avoiding it i would say

00:16:59.480 that it's not even a thought you know not even a thought wow it's gonna be a big surprise isn't it

00:17:06.000 a lot of people man if you're saying 50 50 yeah it's gonna be a big one yeah i mean i think it's

00:17:11.980 it's i think it's 50 50 by you know christmas time

00:17:15.420 well i mean seriously it could it could i mean it could happen at any time right and i mean it's

00:17:23.920 always like that you know it's like but it's i think it's but right now forces are gathered

00:17:29.040 near each other you and really near each other when china sent in the in the ships this weekend

00:17:35.420 and we already have ships there yeah that's getting crowded and missiles are flying around

00:17:41.120 in the region yeah and we're sending the you know the ballistic thad i love thad we're sending thad

00:17:48.820 and we're sending thad to the middle eastern theater it's a beautiful theater it's all brand new new

00:17:54.900 lights curtains luscious anyway thad's going to the middle eastern theater and uh thad does quite a show

00:18:03.360 he works with ballistic missiles anyway thad is a missile system for uh you know basically

00:18:12.160 intercontinental uh ballistic missiles which to try to take them down right before damage i can't think

00:18:19.280 of the middle eastern countries that have one of the have one of those uh maybe israel other than that

00:18:30.440 not hamas no not hezbollah not syria not iraq oh hey iran might have one but if they don't have it

00:18:46.340 maybe saudi arabia yeah but saudi arabia wouldn't launch it they they would launch it against iran

00:18:52.240 yeah so i mean i think you're looking at you know you're looking at china russia united states

00:19:00.500 any of those and i think europe is going to start playing into the hands of the palestinians soon

00:19:07.420 because how are they going to control all of this how are they going to control the outbursts

00:19:13.000 how are they going to control do you know that we have uh 400 people that came across our border that

00:19:20.720 we caught 400 people that we caught that are on the terrorist list this year 400 how many people

00:19:31.360 did we not catch because i think we're not catching most of them that's a little terrifying why are

00:19:39.720 people on the terrorist list coming across our border to cause they're looking for a better life

00:19:45.100 glenn oh is that what it is yeah they're looking for a gig they really they really want to work at

00:19:51.640 wow a fast food establishment huh i didn't no i didn't see that one as an option i was thinking

00:19:58.440 more that you know i kind of go once a terrorist always a terrorist oh really yeah generally speaking

00:20:06.180 oh that's weird because no i think they just they come to america with that

00:20:11.080 with that burning in their belly that they just want to make something of their life

00:20:15.840 yeah see the burning in the belly still makes sense where the way i'm thinking about it too but

00:20:20.860 but uh but anyway you know you're you're looking at some uh

00:20:26.680 you know and it's i mean how do how do you talk to your friends about this if they don't

00:20:33.080 i mean it's kind of like yeah i don't think i'm opening the shelter door for you

00:20:38.120 you know if you're if you're not there at all you know it's kind of like yeah remember when i tried

00:20:48.160 you know they're pounding on the door glenn glenn let me in and i'm on the other side of the door

00:20:55.660 going i don't think so i don't think so you weren't there um but the government has come out

00:21:05.080 with something very very helpful that i think you're going to like uh it is ready.gov uh and

00:21:13.740 ready.gov will help you make a plan in any language that's a great thing in any language they'll help

00:21:21.580 you make a plan make a plan today your family may not be together if disaster strikes so it's

00:21:28.220 important to uh to know which type of disaster could affect your area knowing how you'll contact

00:21:36.040 one another and reconnect if separated establish a family meeting place that's familiar and easy to

00:21:42.260 find and then put a plan together by discussing the questions below with your family friends or

00:21:48.120 household to start your emergency plan how will i receive emergency alerts and warnings

00:21:53.840 i don't i don't know probably over the phone thing when you take over the phones and i mean didn't

00:22:01.060 we just go through that what's my shelter plan i don't have a what is your shelter what is your

00:22:08.440 shelter plan uh what's your evacuation route i don't know the roads that are open roads that

00:22:14.920 don't have roadblocks on them what's your family household communication plan smoke signals i don't

00:22:21.680 know is are the cell towers up do i need to update my emergency preparedness kit nope so they have

00:22:31.300 these so you're all set i'm my mind yeah you're set i'm absolutely all set and they talk about all the

00:22:37.360 things that you need to do to to create but they do have preparedness materials on what kind of

00:22:45.420 emergencies you could be facing and uh and this is interesting because the they have little you

00:22:53.980 know booklets for everything they have active shooter okay that one's good avalanche probably

00:23:01.260 not going to happen with me cyber attack okay earthquake extreme heat yeah what are you going to do

00:23:11.300 where are you going to evacuate if it's 110 degrees for instance what are you going to do i'd go into

00:23:17.860 my house that's what i that's what people in phoenix do i hear i think so yeah yeah financial on the air

00:23:23.980 conditioning yeah financial emergency that's an interesting one flood hurricane landslide okay uh novel

00:23:34.860 pandemic that's probably going to come in handy nuclear explosion power outage

00:23:41.740 thunderstorms now one of now one of these things doesn't really belong the thunderstorm i what are

00:23:50.080 you doing to prepare for the thunderstorm uh air plugs umbrella i mean well no you wouldn't want an

00:23:57.400 umbrella unless you're wearing rubber sole shoes because i think then it'll travel through the umbrella and

00:24:02.820 just die in your shoes but it has to go through you first uh yeah so uh in that uh in that interesting

00:24:09.860 so extreme heat see they should have just done extreme heat and nuclear explosion is one

00:24:21.840 okay because that's extreme heat right you know what i mean yeah yeah very extreme mm-hmm 1200

00:24:29.380 2000 degrees that's extreme yeah mm-hmm and that's one where you don't you just don't go into your

00:24:34.860 house right you know turn up the air conditioning won't help a lot no it's not not for that overwhelm

00:24:40.380 my yeah and it's not subtle either it just comes on in a flat well yes yes in a flash so you got that

00:24:47.700 going for you how many people do you think are prepared for any of that stuff mm-hmm one percent no percent

00:24:58.380 i think no i think there's a i don't think very many people you know for the kind of things they're

00:25:06.900 talking about escape routes and um boy i was up how you how you connect with each other if self

00:25:14.860 towers are down do you have a plan for that yeah we have a meeting place you do have a meeting place

00:25:20.780 yeah we do yeah that's good it's the closest waffle house

00:25:25.040 you know it's like where are we gonna meet sense well i tell you it's the end of the world you can

00:25:33.440 find me at the closest waffle house that'll be you know that's where i'll be yeah you don't have that

00:25:39.440 yeah you don't have a meeting place or anything we don't have a meeting place oh you should yeah

00:25:43.420 we should do that because i have the food you know we have we have storage we have stuff do you

00:25:50.120 have a code do you have a code a code a code i don't have a code everybody needs a code okay just

00:25:57.580 so you can pretend you're a spy no because of things like for instance um these deep fakes now that they

00:26:05.420 can capture your child's voice online and within three seconds they can oh image it okay and so

00:26:14.780 this is already happening where people will call and they'll say mom i just made a huge mistake yeah

00:26:20.060 that has happened it has happened okay yeah so you need a code give me the code so you know it's her

00:26:26.240 or him so what you say is let's just base it on uh a hundred you got the family picks a number or

00:26:34.060 picks a number okay let's say you pick 100 you say to her 93 you don't say give me a code you say 93

00:26:45.280 and she says 100 7 and then it's you know it's not her no no no you say 93 and she gives you the

00:26:58.580 number number to get to 100 to get to 100 so you can say one and she can say 99 that way it's always

00:27:06.380 changing all right you know what if you're so stressed out you can't do the math in your head

00:27:12.260 then well then i would make it 10 you know or two so the answer is always one so you throw out nine

00:27:21.560 nine and then they say one right okay so even under duress you should be able to come up with

00:27:28.460 you should be able to yeah uh and if not you're probably just say is it really you because if i

00:27:36.360 say 37 there's going to be some math involved and they might be stressed yeah yeah say like 60

00:27:42.920 or 50 right if you're dealing with your dumb kids okay you just say 99 and then they have to say one

00:27:51.360 okay okay all right makes sense okay good boy i have pat is gonna be dead within the first week

00:27:58.100 yeah all right the best of the glenn beck program so there's a new movie coming out uh and it asks the

00:28:05.820 question is america a police state and more and more people are believing that it is i think it's up

00:28:13.400 to 50 percent of the population now believes that you know justice can't be found and we're headed

00:28:20.900 towards um real trouble um dinesh d'souza is the filmmaker no relation to john philip souza that i know

00:28:29.480 of that i know of uh dinesh is with us now hi dinesh how are you hey glenn it's a

00:28:35.760 pleasure thanks for having me on sure sure um so tell me about the uh tell me about the film

00:28:41.480 police state well the the film is a um raises the question uh do we find now in america many of the

00:28:52.760 features that we have previously identified with unfree tyrannical or police state societies so think

00:29:00.260 about uh north korea china the old soviet union the defining features of those societies are what

00:29:07.180 well mass surveillance of the citizens we have that now systematic censorship we have that now

00:29:13.440 uh the attempt to create a one-party state to lock up the leader of the opposition party we have that now

00:29:19.780 criminalization of dissent we have that now uh indoctrination in the schools and propaganda in

00:29:26.260 the media we have that now political prisoners to some degree we have that now so as i go down the

00:29:32.300 checklist i'm very alarmed to see that the old distinction that you and i and many others used

00:29:39.000 to make where the free world and then there's the unfree world these distinctions have really eroded if

00:29:44.620 not collapsed altogether is there a place that is growing in freedom anywhere

00:29:50.620 that's a really good question and in fact somewhat toward the middle or the second part of the movie

00:29:57.620 i raised a startling possibility i call it police planet and i raised that because i noticed that

00:30:04.020 with covid um you know the same things happening in america were happening in canada and in australia

00:30:11.020 new zealand all over europe and so it almost is as if we now have a western model of the police state

00:30:17.780 then of course there is the chinese model and the world in a sense is being made to choose between

00:30:23.140 one police state or another and the people i mean what people haven't tied together yet is you know

00:30:30.900 when you see people protesting the farmers in the netherlands and you have the people in the orange

00:30:36.780 vests in uh france and the the people for brexit uh in england what they're really saying is the same

00:30:46.520 thing that many people said in the tea party and that is um we we don't want a global state we don't

00:30:56.480 want the government in everything in our life we don't want the elites and it seems as though in every

00:31:03.000 country all parties are pushing in that direction some of them are slowing it down but nobody seems to be

00:31:10.340 really pulling in the other direction um and it's really the elites against the people and the elites

00:31:17.840 are fine with locking up and police stating everybody i find it remarkable how people today with a straight

00:31:25.720 face and we're talking here about professors we're talking here about government officials we're talking

00:31:31.040 here about figures at the un or the world economic forum they will make a bald face case for censorship

00:31:37.880 without any reservation without any hemming and hawing without any sense of apology of you know giving

00:31:43.880 an apology like you know we don't really want to censor people but we kind of have to and so there is a

00:31:49.660 kind of blatant um appeal here to tyranny and yet there are too many americans i think who are a little

00:31:57.960 blind to all this i liken them sort of to the antelope or the wildebeest where they go you know i'm not

00:32:03.340 trump and you know dinesh i didn't go in the capital in january 6th and so i pay my taxes and so

00:32:08.660 i'm no good never going to have the fbi coming smashing through my door and the point of this

00:32:13.300 film is to say to that guy you could not be more wrong i have a lot of ordinary people in the film

00:32:19.580 who experienced the hot breath of the police state or you know what orwell called the boot stamping on

00:32:25.220 the human face and give me some of those examples well a good example of a guy is mark hauck he's a

00:32:33.320 you know he's a pro-life activist and he takes his son they go outside the abortion clinics and they

00:32:38.420 counsel people and so on they don't interfere with anything well one of the counselors comes up to his

00:32:43.160 son and starts hassling the kid sort of insulting his dad in front of the kid so mark hauck gets kind

00:32:48.420 of agitated and he pushes the guy he doesn't hit him he just pushes him the guy falls down and then

00:32:53.940 runs into the clinic well eventually mark hauck finds the federal government charging him with violating

00:32:58.980 the so-called faith act now the faith act is interfering with reproductive services at a

00:33:04.640 clinic he wasn't doing that he wasn't blocking women from getting in the clinic this was a clinic

00:33:09.440 counselor that came out and accosted him and yet he was facing years and years in prison but he decided

00:33:16.140 i'm not going to plea bargain i'm not going to take a deal i'm going to go before a jury and so not

00:33:20.960 only does he tell his story but he happened to have all this body cam footage of the fbi raid on

00:33:27.120 his house all of that is in the film and we recreate parts of the story so this is the beauty

00:33:32.520 of a film is cinematically you can bring it home to people they don't just hear about it they can

00:33:38.200 kind of feel it and see it so we are not we're not in a police state as usually does um defined yet

00:33:47.720 because usually a police state happens uh shortly after what we're going through right now just chaos

00:33:55.640 everywhere crime everywhere um you know and they they'll close the borders and lock things up and

00:34:03.540 tell everybody exactly what to do and then you have the police state we have the emerging police state

00:34:09.600 do you agree with that or disagree i agree completely in fact i think it's fair to say that

00:34:14.860 if it was a full-fledged police state i couldn't have made this film and quite likely you and i could

00:34:19.440 not be having this conversation right so we are not in a full-fledged police state uh i also think

00:34:26.180 that you have you know put your finger on a couple of anomalies in america which are unusual for police

00:34:32.240 states normally police states have very low crime you know you try in china going on the subway and

00:34:37.340 starting to beat up some guy or punch some woman on the subway the cops will come and beat you up and

00:34:42.040 take you away so police states normally have a small side benefit which is they are very orderly

00:34:47.240 they're usually very clean uh and so we have this rampant criminality in our in our cities is a

00:34:53.460 little inconsistent with the police here but we address this in the movie the other thing that's

00:34:57.560 interesting is that police states normally have a berlin wall they they have a wall you can't get in

00:35:02.460 you can't get out they restrict the movement in and out but we have a police state with a porous

00:35:08.220 border and that's strange and so you have to again this is something that the movie addresses

00:35:12.920 why do we have an open border in this emerging police state and the answer is that the people

00:35:19.620 who are building the police state don't have a clear majority they want to alter the population

00:35:24.660 demographically so that they have the kind of majorities that fdr had in the middle of the

00:35:29.480 20th century where it's essentially a one-party state and the democrats can do whatever they want

00:35:34.140 so is there an answer to stopping this at this point because they seem to hold all of the cards now

00:35:42.440 well they don't hold all the cards i mean just look right today the supreme court took the very

00:35:49.580 important case of missouri versus biden now this is a case exposing the full collaboration between the

00:35:56.440 multiple agencies of government i mean not just one or two like 15 agencies of government and the

00:36:02.080 digital platforms now what the supreme court did and this court clearly moved slowly is they lifted an

00:36:07.900 injunction that would have prohibited the government from continuing to sort of work with

00:36:12.300 these digital platforms they said okay we're going to lift the injunction but we're going to take the

00:36:16.500 case with a decision to come in the spring now you know for me that's too slow i mean i believe in the

00:36:21.760 good old justice delayed is justice denied the people being censored right now the supreme court

00:36:27.280 apparently says the government can keep censoring them for another six months until the supreme court

00:36:32.040 gets its act together i think in the end they will strike it down and that will be a major blow

00:36:37.180 against the police state you know i was talking to um alan dershowitz and he's he said i've i've been

00:36:45.060 rating us on a banana scale 10 bananas you're a full banana republic he said i'm up to six now this was

00:36:52.860 about a month ago and uh i think we called him and asked him if he had added some uh and i i think that

00:37:02.100 he has added one so you know we're up to seven out of out of ten um banana republic uh we're seeing that

00:37:11.140 and what's happening to donald trump is remarkable his free speech being taken away he can't comment

00:37:19.060 i mean how is that even possible in america it's it's it's insane i mean if look had they had they

00:37:27.940 filed a single charge against trump and said look you know you hang you you held on pugnaciously to

00:37:33.760 those documents we tried to get you to give them back you refused and so we think a criminal charge

00:37:38.800 is the only way that's going to get you to cooperate you know we could look at the merits of it but 90

00:37:43.940 plus charges and multiple jurisdictions with a clear shotgun approach if we can't get them over here

00:37:49.580 we'll get you over there i mean this is classic police state thuggery and so it is sometimes you know

00:37:56.060 you know glenn i came to the united states as a teenager um i've always been a rah rah american

00:38:01.240 uh it's not just the opportunity but the the basic freedoms and the bill of rights but if you

00:38:06.700 would ask me now with a straight face are we a free society i would hesitate i mean i would not

00:38:11.980 want to say no and yet i cannot say yes yeah i agree with the um you know you did the um what was

00:38:19.760 it thousand was it thousand mules two thousand mules um you did two thousand mules right after

00:38:26.340 the 2020 election i have not seen any evidence that things have been cleaned up at all or made

00:38:32.940 safer are we going to be able to trust this election you know i don't know the answer to that

00:38:39.680 i do know that there have been some there has been some progress with the election integrity laws

00:38:45.300 i know that there was there have been some efforts to um insist upon surveillance for all the drop

00:38:50.820 boxes this is obviously the job of the campaigns and of the rnc you know if you're asking me do i

00:38:56.660 have a lot of confidence that they are doing all the things that are necessary i would have to say no

00:39:01.140 uh same as you um but you know you mentioned the thing about a banana republic glenn and i want to say

00:39:06.880 that a police state of the american type is far more sinister than a banana republic i mean i sort of

00:39:13.160 grew up in a banana republic india is kind of a banana republic the good thing about banana republics

00:39:17.940 is that they're really stupid and that they have a lot of petty corruption and you can actually make

00:39:22.880 your way in a banana republic nothing really works all that well but on the other hand they don't have

00:39:27.580 their you know noose around your neck by and large india is too chaotic for it to be a tyrannical

00:39:33.240 society even though there are some police state elements in there now if the united states becomes a

00:39:38.320 police state it will be very sinister it will actually be worse than the soviet union there's

00:39:43.420 um there's a scene in in solzhenitsyn's gulag about a woman who was told in the at the train

00:39:48.500 station they're coming for you get on the train and go but she goes to her apartment they're waiting

00:39:52.960 for her she gets arrested but then solzhenitsyn says too bad she didn't get on the train she could

00:39:58.500 have disappeared in vast mother russia and they would never have found her yeah but i think you know

00:40:03.500 as well as i do that's not true today they would find you right away i i said in 2008 um that if we

00:40:11.060 don't stop this slide we're going to be we're going to make the nazis look like rookies and i think that

00:40:19.120 we better stop this slide pretty quickly because it is ultimate global power now we're i mean i just

00:40:26.900 went on a plane yesterday and uh they you know they take your id and they don't just look at it

00:40:34.480 now they take your id swipe it and they take a picture of your face and it's like what i mean

00:40:39.140 there's there's yeah they're closing all of these exits for you to be able to just be on your own

00:40:47.120 you can't do it anymore well the other the other reason i think that and this is also a reason to

00:40:52.880 make a movie is because our police state is in camouflage it's not open about its motives it

00:40:58.920 marches behind the banner of saving democracy and you know upholding the rule of law and affirming

00:41:06.060 truth in the face of misinformation and disinformation so there's a lot of subterfuge and camouflage to

00:41:12.440 bamboozle the ordinary american as if to say we're not building a police state we're just fighting for

00:41:18.040 truth and justice on the american way so the one one thing that a film can do is like unmask and

00:41:23.320 rip the facade off so people can see really what they're up against dinesh d'souza police state it

00:41:29.560 is in theaters tomorrow tuesday the 23rd and wednesday the 25th um that would be the 24th i think

00:41:37.280 the virtual premiere so it's the opening day is actually today today and then wednesday the 25th

00:41:44.040 in hundreds of theaters and police state film.net is the only place to get tickets so don't go to

00:41:50.520 the theater don't don't try to buy them in fandango go to police state film.net and this movie has

00:41:56.660 tremendous traction by the way if you cannot go to the theater on friday the 27th this coming friday

00:42:02.520 we have a virtual premiere where you can watch from home details and tickets on the same website

00:42:08.260 that's great police state film.net dinesh as always good to talk to you thank you so much

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The Glenn Beck Program - October 23, 2023

Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Dinesh D’Souza ｜ 10⧸23⧸23

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