On today's show, Glenn Beck sits down with Donald Trump to talk about the future of the country, the economy, and much, much more. Glenn also talks about a new campaign ad featuring Donald Trump's mug shot, and a new piece from the New York Times Magazine on the dangers of an authoritarian government.
00:00:34.580But I did ask him about hope that we haven't lost the republic, that we can count on the next election and that the economy can turn around.
00:00:44.600He answered all of those on today's podcast and so much more.
00:00:49.160You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:01:00.420I got an email from Sabo, the street graffiti guy.
00:01:10.520And he said, hey, I just made something with Donald Trump's mugshot.
00:02:54.020Leading up to the 2024 election, there are a number of pressing issues Americans will consider.
00:02:59.020Rampant illegal immigration, skyrocketing inflation, the price of living, violent crime, marring cities.
00:03:05.060But those issues are now against the backdrop of a palpable shift towards authoritarianism.
00:03:11.780And a vote for Trump in 2024 will be a vote of defiance.
00:03:17.520She writes, this is not the personal endorsement of the author, but a statement of what the author believes to be fact for countless Americans.
00:03:26.620The American people have been watching over the years as the government authoritarian tendencies have been revealed, first through coronavirus lockdowns and vaccine mandates, then the vast and coordinated censorship of the New York Post's laptop from hell reporting.
00:03:42.740And now multiple indictments against the former president, Donald Trump, with a jarring image of his mugshot being released to the public on Thursday.
00:03:52.700At the beginning of 2020, purportedly free people were told they were not allowed to go to work.
00:04:00.180Their children weren't allowed to go to school.
00:04:02.140They were going to be barred from playing outside in parks because the experts claimed these activities were too dangerous for American citizens based on now dubious and incomplete data.
00:04:15.660American citizens were made to cover their faces in public, a universal symbol of submission, even though there was no health related justification for that edict other than particular rare masks in particular cases.
00:04:30.500American citizens had their movements tracked and their health information put in databases, measures that could have been lifted from any dystopian fiction.
00:04:39.840Corporate interests and power centers thrived while normal people suffered.
00:04:44.680But people, for the most part, kept their heads down and waited for the moment to pass.
00:04:49.160There are now indications that some or all of these measures may be reinstated come August or autumn.
00:04:57.060The same year, the American people, who were ostensibly have free speech rights, were prevented from reading a series of news reports that were immediately relevant to their upcoming presidential election, describing an apparent scheme to peddle influence by one of the candidates.
00:05:15.280They would later learn that their government in coordination with some of the largest and most influential media and communication companies worked together to ensure that information would be censored in order to ensure the outcome of that election.
00:05:30.980See, this is what's really incredible.
00:05:33.480That affected the election, according to polls.
00:05:36.080People who voted for Joe Biden said, had they known they wouldn't have voted for Joe Biden.
00:05:47.360Now, imagine what all of this stuff on Donald Trump is doing to him.
00:05:53.140Data would emerge that the goal was achieved, that censorship of these stories did secure the election.
00:05:58.740And votes were cast under false pretenses because of efforts of intelligence agencies.
00:06:04.680And again, corporate interests and power centers thrived while normal people suffered.
00:06:09.900But still, people, for the most part, kept their heads down and waited for the moment to pass.
00:06:14.720Every time one of these incidents occurred, we lamented about how unprecedented the event was, but still went about our lives and waited for the moment to pass.
00:06:23.680This time, however, feels different as the American people watch an escalation with the leader of the political opposition being hounded and threatened with jail and the death penalty.
00:06:36.980The escalation is indicating to the American public that going about our lives and waiting for the moment to pass is not going to work.
00:06:44.680It signals that every time we put our heads down, those in power see an opportunity to seize even more power.
00:06:50.840The bureaucratic establishment, the corporate establishment, the political establishment, while Trump was president and since, has been in a sustained effort to undermine him, attack us and grow its power.
00:07:05.740And now Trump is emerging as the, if just symbolic, mechanism to counter that effort.
00:07:12.460Voting for Trump over other Republicans or over Biden won't necessarily be because of his policies.
00:07:18.300That will be the last thing on some voters' minds.
00:07:22.640It will be an act of defiance against our government and institutions that are openly oppressing people and information they deem threatening to their self-interest and self-preservation.
00:07:35.820In the release of Trump's mugshot, a photo that will go down in infamy, the election has been turned into a referendum on authoritarianism.
00:07:44.960The opposition started about being about closing the border and lowering inflation and alleviate the pressure on the working and middle class caused by the recklessness of the elites.
00:07:58.240But now the mandate has shifted and has become more general to restore freedom by decimating the establishment and the bureaucracy and the experts.
00:08:10.200The release of that photo on Thursday was evocative of flag burning.
00:08:16.080It had a visual assault on everything we know about this country and what it is to be and the desecration of everything this country has stood for.
00:08:24.600It had also transmitted a signal to the nation.
00:08:28.040This game is going to be a zero-sum game.
00:08:31.360That is from Emma Jo Morris, who I heed that warning.
00:08:41.440We are headed into very, very dangerous territory because we are entering the time now where only a strong man will be able to hold things together.
00:08:58.280Only a strong man will be able to promise you, I'm going to clean up the streets, I'm going to protect the dollar, you know, I'm going to win the war, all of these things.
00:09:11.840And that could go either way because one side is screaming that you've got to stop the parents from complaining because they're hurting their kids by not letting them, you know, have their gender and their bodies mutilated.
00:09:28.200One side is saying that we have to shut any opposition up because they're slowing down the progress.
00:09:59.580Now, I think that there are real ways that can be done constitutionally, but I warn you, there is going to come a time where even on our side, many will say, screw the constitution.
00:10:35.260There are forces on many fronts on the left who wants to destroy the constitution and those now posing as the right, but they're not the right.
00:10:54.680In America, the choice is not right or left.
00:10:58.660It is either anarchy or complete control.
00:11:04.320Right now, the people that are in the driver's seat and the people coming up now in the right who are disguising themselves as conservatives do not wish to conserve.
00:11:22.500It's why there are those progressive Republicans that are so into war.
00:11:28.420There are many Republicans that don't speak out about the things going on with Donald Trump right now because they'd like those tools themselves.
00:11:39.940And if they could just get control of this system, why, then we'd be fixed.
00:13:34.680Donald Trump will join me coming up on today's broadcast podcast.
00:13:40.840This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:13:43.540So let me give you this story from Axios quickly.
00:13:47.660America's decades-long love affair with homeownership is holding back the economy and hobbling the Federal Reserve and exacerbating a national housing crisis.
00:13:59.520There's just too much wealth stored in too many houses for anything to meaningful change.
00:14:04.680The big picture is life is unpredictable journey.
00:14:08.360People change where they want and need to live all the time.
00:14:12.120And a country with 66% home ownership rate is not conducive to that.
00:14:18.520They're talking about how home ownership is trapping people.
00:14:26.100And the youth is trying to find a place to live.
00:14:30.860But all the houses are trapped by rich people or people who have owned their homes for a long time or people who have an interest rate at 2%.
00:14:41.920And so they can't, they don't want to leave it because they'll never get a loan that is that close to that.
00:16:12.480You know, John Huntsman Sr. told me at one point, he said, Glenn, don't be the guy that owns the oil well.
00:16:19.080Don't be the guy that owns the water well.
00:16:21.280Be the guy who searches for the water, who purifies the water, because whoever owns the scarce product, whoever owns it, will be the bad guy and they'll come for you.
00:17:55.880But now you have this gentleman from Axios, who is one of the economic media darlings, if you will, coming out and not only saying, oh, it's a really it's a problem that you own your home.
00:18:08.960It's really a problem that you have this this asset that's creating legacy wealth for you and your family.
00:18:15.260But the the mental gymnastics that it took for him to get there.
00:18:39.660The reason people are stuck in their homes, which you alluded to, and we don't have the turnover, isn't because people are trying to hoard wealth.
00:18:47.900It's because they literally cannot find another home.
00:19:17.560You can have an increasing home price, but cheap mortgages.
00:19:20.920Or you can have, you know, a high mortgage rate, but a cheap house.
00:19:24.220But you cannot have both of those at the same time.
00:19:26.880When you have both of those, you are not going to get people to move in the house.
00:19:31.740And the idea that they're blaming you for creating wealth instead of blaming the arsonist who burnt down the economy, the government and the Fed is absolutely despicable.
00:19:42.480But again, it falls under you will own nothing and you will be happy.
00:20:28.800You were the steward of that and nobody could touch it for them to take this idea and completely twist it around to where we're going back to the kings.
00:20:41.300And the king's minions own the land and we can rent it from them is astounding, astounding.
00:20:50.040Well, let me tie this into your dark future thesis, which I also talk about.
00:20:54.760So think about the implications from a social credit perspective as well.
00:20:59.640You know, when you own your home, there is a level of sovereignty there, right?
00:21:03.840You can do what you want to do in your home.
00:21:06.700If you now rent from one of the Wall Street cronies and, you know, have the ability to have more homes turned over because it's better for the economy, Glenn, then now Wall Street becomes a de facto arm of the government.
00:21:32.300So the importance of having the home, not only the largest wealth creator for families on a legacy basis, but also that individual sovereignty, that ability to say this is my domain.
00:21:46.400I can do, you know, underneath it what I please.
00:21:49.040And I don't have to follow your instructions instead of being, as you said, that at surf to the ruling class.
00:21:55.280This is incredibly, incredibly nefarious.
00:21:58.500And we have to make sure people own things.
00:22:00.760We have to make sure they preserve that key piece of freedom.
00:22:04.240It's why property rights are that essential, you know, leg of the stool in terms of our individual rights and our freedoms.
00:22:11.920It was religion and speech and property.
00:22:19.920Those that was the basic idea of America.
00:22:23.920You owned your speech and your thought.
00:22:27.460You owned your life and liberty and what you wanted to do.
00:22:33.840And you could own property because in every other country, you couldn't own property.
00:22:40.120You had to be granted the land from the state, from the king.
00:22:45.920Well, that's what they're doing right now.
00:22:47.840The king is just coming in and wanting to take all of this land back, not necessarily for the king, but for all of his cronies, all of the lords and the ladies who are running the companies.
00:23:12.920You know, we can't grow and prosper if you don't give up your house.
00:23:16.580But they need you to buy into being happy.
00:23:19.400They need you to go along with this psyop because it's much easier for them to affect change and to hoard the wealth for themselves if you go along with it than if you are pushing back.
00:23:49.500And because the home ownership is so unattainable for so many of these young people, because not only do they have those high home prices we're talking about and high mortgage costs,
00:23:59.460but their personal balance sheets are also decimated by the ridiculous college debt loans that they have, that they, you know, have a very difficult time paying back because they're not getting an ROI on that.
00:24:09.240So it's basically crushing that American dream for them.
00:24:12.960And if you don't think something is attainable for you, you put up that defense shield and you go, well, you know, maybe I can't get it.
00:24:19.140Maybe I didn't want it in the first place.
00:24:20.700This will be a very bad outcome if we don't have more young people who want to own things, because we will return to that feudal society and not have it a society of freedom.
00:24:32.600So, Carol, I want to talk to you about Kevin O'Leary.
00:24:35.400He said that rising interest rates and mortgage costs pose a major threat to households and small businesses.
00:24:43.240America is headed towards a rebalance after huge investment in the country's largest companies, while small and midsize firms have been neglected.
00:24:52.780Inflation is currently at 3.2 percent.
00:24:55.460And Fed Chair Jay Powell warned last week that the central bank has not ruled out further interest rate hikes to bring it down further.
00:25:01.540I'm sorry, the rate currently is 5.5 percent.
00:25:06.960What I anticipate is going to happen here while we still have full employment, which is remarkable.
00:25:12.180You don't put any capital in the small business sector, which is 60 percent of the jobs.
00:25:16.500You're going to start to see some real chaos in September, October, November.
00:25:21.280Do you understand that or agree with that?
00:25:24.320Well, I mean, I think this has been going on for a long time.
00:25:27.260Obviously, it's kind of the same thing that we were talking about in the previous segment.
00:25:32.340As these interest rates rise, you have the opposite effect of what happened for the last 15 years.
00:25:38.760The last 15 years gave cheap, easy, available capital to Wall Street.
00:25:43.060They were able to take advantage of it in a way that small businesses couldn't.
00:25:47.640And so they have locked in for the large part, you know, a lot of debt at low rates, just like the homeowners locked in low mortgage rates.
00:25:57.440When you're a small business owner, you don't have that same capacity.
00:26:00.860You're often working off of a personal balance sheet or you're just kind of cobbling things together.
00:26:06.800So you had you didn't have that advantage on the side when they were suppressing the interest rates.
00:26:14.060Now, when it is rising, you're also in a worse position.
00:26:18.520And you have to remember, we've now had three years just about where small businesses first were closed in large part,
00:26:26.580about a third of the economy while their big companies stayed open.
00:26:31.320And they were hard hit by the supply chain crisis, by the labor crisis.
00:26:35.720So, you know, just kind of anyone who survived is sort of just hanging on by a thread already.
00:26:41.420And then you have now this sort of extra barrier of not being able to have the capital.
00:26:47.560So I do think that when you see the cracks, you're going to see it in two places.
00:26:51.780We've seen it in one, which were the tech firms that way overhired.
00:26:56.500But they're they're normalizing to their pre-pandemic level.
00:26:59.800And then you're going to see it with the small businesses who don't have the capacity or they're at what they're at their wit's end financially and and and otherwise.
00:27:10.380And so, you know, it ends up being this consolidation where the small businesses can't survive.
00:27:16.440And that business goes to the big businesses and you get this consolidation and the centralization of the economy.
00:27:23.640And I think that that that is the the overarching theme that we continue to fight against is centralization versus the decentralization that stands for freedom.
00:27:32.580I wish I wish there was somebody in everybody's home that like a cuckoo clock at the top of every hour would just say it's the Fed and government.
00:27:41.620It's the Fed and government because what they're doing with raising of interest rates and people don't understand this.
00:27:48.580They they they they just hear this and think, oh, it's a mechanism to bring down my inflation.
00:27:53.300They don't understand what they're trying to do is stop as close as you can.
00:28:20.440They've spent much, much, much, much, much more.
00:28:22.760And because they continue to spend all of that, they need you to stop.
00:28:28.240And so they're trying to stop the heart of the economy without killing the patient.
00:28:32.780It's extraordinary how evil I think this really is.
00:28:37.040Yeah. And they never take any responsibility, any responsibility.
00:28:40.380They don't say, oh, it was, you know, the government spending and this ridiculous, you know, COVID, quote unquote, emergency that we had to monetize and that, you know, they spent too much and we had to print too much money.
00:29:06.260I'm becoming increasingly concerned that all of these countries all around the world are starting to join in and and cobble together a currency.
00:29:17.260When that happens, we we could become Venezuela overnight.
00:29:27.540So I probably cannot answer this in a minute and a half.
00:29:30.200And we're going to have to talk about this.
00:29:31.440I think the big takeaway is that with these nations coming together and forging stronger alliances, what they're doing is that they're killing the petrodollar and by, you know, extension, the U.S. dollar.
00:29:47.800But if they just do trade and local currency, that takes away a big source of the financing that the government has been using to expand very cheaply.
00:29:56.960And we should definitely do a deep dive into it because there's so much meat there.
00:30:06.480The name of her book is You Will Own Nothing.
00:30:08.460And if today's Axios story, how homeownership is holding back the U.S. economy, isn't proof of what she writes about, what I write about in Dark Future, I mean, I can't get any clearer than that particular story.
00:30:26.640It is amazing what is happening to us.
00:30:30.400You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:30:33.060The, by far, frontrunner for the Republican nomination and the most persecuted man in, I believe, American history, the former president of the United States, President Donald Trump.
00:32:06.500So when you say, like, I didn't do a debate, I actually didn't do a debate, but I had 261 million people listening versus 11 million, which they had, which was one of the lowest rated debates.
00:32:16.440So I went up fairly substantially after that.
00:32:20.900And I think the fake indictment that they did in Georgia was very helpful.
00:32:26.320And then they insisted on a mugshot, and somehow it turned out to be very iconic.
00:32:31.240I have to tell you, I don't know how you, how you do it every day.
00:43:52.840It was amazing how there is the new generation and the old generation of Republicans that just seem to be completely out of touch with what time it is.