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Today on the show we have a doctor from Johns Hopkins, Dr. Marty McCarry, who has been writing about vaccines and natural immunity. He is not an anti-vaxxer, he is not a skeptic, but he does have a point of view on some of the things that have been going on in the past regarding the use of vaccines and the lack of natural immunity in the fight against the coronavirus.
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welcome to the podcast today we get into some covid stuff that's going on have a doctor on
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who says you know maybe kids shouldn't be forced to wear masks uh yeah he's the actual doctor from
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johns hopkins uh who has been writing about that and also you know what's the truth about vaccines
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and and natural immunity what should we know about those things he gets into that today
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on the program we have an update on andrew cuomo and how awful he is i believe it's andrew cuomo
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is awful.com we'll have to look into that i'm not sure exactly what the website is but uh make sure
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you hear you stick around for that and what do we do in this situation as a country we look at this
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stuff every day we feel more and more boxed in how do we react to this what are what are our actions
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that can turn this around is there a way to turn it around that's all on today's program don't miss
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you're listening to the best of the glenn back program
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we have uh dr marty mccary um he's the author of the price we pay um and he's a professor at
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johns hopson hopkins school of medicine he has been on with us uh before i want to talk to him
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about um vaccinations because he has just come out and he's one of the first guys or loudest guy that i
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have heard talk about people who have already had coronavirus uh and that's me and my entire family
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and i had a bad case of it and i'm not getting a vaccine because since when does the human body not
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protect people you know that have already had something you have your own uh immune system to
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do that uh i want to make it really clear he's not an anti-vaxxer he's not somebody who's against
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the vaccine he just thinks that we should talk about some nuances here and some other things about
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the vaccine uh the doctor is here with us now hello doctor how are you good to be with you glenn
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thank you uh thank you so much so help me out on no one is talking about anybody who has already had
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uh covid i already had it i had a bad bout of it um is my body doing what it always does when i get a
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virus yeah it turns out god designed our bodies properly and when the immune system kicks in it works
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it's effective and i used to think that natural immunity was as good as vaccinated immunity but
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new data is suggesting it's better now i would never suggest anyone run out there and get the
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infection just to get natural immunity because if you're at risk the dealing with the infection can
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be a little scary but for those who have it let's recognize it there's almost no discussion about it
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except for one sham misrepresented study that the cdc put out last friday that um tried to
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support their argument but you know what's happening is this sort of political entrenchment whereas
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they take a position early that every american with two feet needs to get vaccinated and they won't look
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at the data on natural immunity or other special situations and it's like they've made up their mind
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before they see the data you say that some 80 to 85 percent of american adults are immune to the virus
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that's right so 71 almost 72 percent now of adults have been vaccinated and of the unvaccinated
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the prevalence of natural immunity in that group is probably about half of them so that puts us at
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around 85 to 87 percent of adults now have immunity that's pretty good something we should feel good
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about right now the the virus is circulating really quickly now in its delta contagious form among that
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remaining 10 to 15 percent of adults who have no immunity no natural immunity and no vaccinated
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immunity and for those people i am worried about them and this is the time to get vaccinated
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so people who have not had it and people who have not had the vaccine right and if you look at the
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say 600 americans who died yesterday they're all in that group they are adults who have no natural
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immunity and no vaccinated immunity okay um talk to me a little bit about uh the we're going back into
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mask mandates well before i get to that let me just ask you this there are a lot of people i think
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that don't want the vaccine um because of the way the government has presented this they are so
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draconian that when somebody gets like this and starts to say there's no discussion you have to do
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it this way and we'll fire you if you don't do these things you know you're killing people if you don't do
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it that pushes people off if i weren't um if i didn't have natural immunity i'm not sure i would get
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the vaccine just because of the way the government is so heavy-handed on it it makes me skeptical
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can you address that kind of feeling yeah good point glenn so the reason we're dealing with the death toll
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now of at least a couple hundred americans dying every day so for example in texas about 60 texans
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are dying every day and the reason we're dealing with this is because of those without natural
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immunity and no vaccinated immunity it's in part from the sort of vaccine hesitancy in that group and
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the biggest driver of vaccine hesitancy has been the united states federal government it's the fda not
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issuing a full approval because of their crazy bureaucracy despite an impeccable safety profile
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better than any other vaccine ever developed and it's this ignoring of natural immunity it's the lack
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of recognizing that the risk is not evenly distributed in the population it's pretty much impossible for
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this virus to hurt a child who's extremely healthy um now they can get a common cold or something like
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that and maybe they got to be careful around kids who are at risk and have pre-existing conditions
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but when you act as if we're not going to stop until every newborn is vaccinated what we're missing out
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on is the fact that this data does not do not support the arguments and you lose credibility you lose
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credibility when you push it the way they have been pushing it the idea that um we all have to have
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masks again we all have to stay inside again if this worked why is california in so much trouble
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and and do we have to max mask our children yeah so first on the on the issue these issues of mandates
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and they're very sensitive issues right because we were told everything was going to be temporary
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last year and then you know here we are a year and a half later um and by the way these people pushing
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vaccine requirements that don't count natural immunity are talking about the insanity of
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immunizing those already immune that's exactly what's happening and all these people pushing
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vaccine mandates for children guarantee you none of those people have ever immunized their children
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for flu even though the flu shot has been around for kids for decades guarantee you this is becoming a
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highly stigmatized virus with its own unique set of you know fears and i'm also concerned about
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coronavirus but in the group where where it hurts people adults for existing conditions the masks
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probably do reduce transmission a little bit even in kids cloth masks are the least effective but here's
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the problem with saying every child in america has to wear a mask it ignores that some parts of the
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country a lot of it actually has have very low levels of the infection right now and we've assumed there's
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no harm to the masks that's not true i don't think the right argument medically is masks don't work i think
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the honest argument is there's zero evidence to show they do and i and i do mean zero we've spent more
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money as an nih on the wuhan virology institute than we have studying masks and children and so
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we don't have data let's assume they reduce risk a little bit that's extrapolating from adult data
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that's what i believe but we've been acting as if there's no harm and the reality is some kids do well
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with masks but other kids struggle severely severely tell me about the delta variant
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um what what how bad is it and uh and are we headed for more variants that are worse than this
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i don't think so if you look at this website that we use to track variants in the scientific community
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which is nextstrain.org you can actually go there if somebody's interested in this kind of
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wonky stuff and geek out a little bit with us on it stew's already there
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nextstrain so um nextstrain.org tracks the variants by the way there's been 19 major variants so far
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and each variant has about 10 to 12 um to to about 120 sub variants so we've got almost 2 000 variants
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to date of covid none of them none of these 2 000 variants have evaded the life protecting effect
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of human immunity of any kind vaccinated or natural so the idea that somehow right around
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the corner as dr fauci suggested recently we're going to get the variant from hell that's going
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to wipe us all out and reset the board statistically it doesn't the past does not support that it the
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variants can be more contagious and that's where we got blindsided this summer we always knew the
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remaining 10 to 20 percent of non-immune adults in america were eventually going to get the virus we
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thought it was going to be seasonal over the next couple flu seasons but delta accelerated that and
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they got hit quickly now delta is going to be mostly behind us in a few weeks if you look at the state
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that got hit hardest with delta first missouri they're showing numbers this morning that suggest
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they've peaked and i think we're going to see this peak quickly because of the experience of the
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netherlands and the uk and even india by the way india did not get over their hump because they immunized
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everybody they got over it because of natural immunity which had a heavy death toll yeah it does
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show they're they're beyond it um can you talk to me about i've heard talk i haven't heard talk from
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anybody that i i would lay money down on the table about what they're saying is a leaky vaccine
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if you're talking about breakthrough infections from a bad batch of vaccines if that's what you're
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referring to look the cold chain is hard you know it's not perfect and so when you in the supply chain
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have a box of vaccine that may be sitting out a little longer than it should there are these rare
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um thoughts where there are these bad batches and maybe that's where the people are getting in
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okay so the idea that this vaccine is letting some things leak through and that makes it worse
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yeah i see what you're saying yeah i don't think so i think there's thoughts that it promotes
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resistance and worse strains that's really from the bacteria model where we get super bugs
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and i really don't think it applies that much to to to the vaccines for viruses um
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last question on the the vaccine the the uh i have a natural immunity how long does that last
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when should i get vaccinated when should i get vaccinated or am i just good you know we're 16
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months into watching coronavirus in people who recovered and for those 16 months it appears to be
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solid so we've got that much data so far now if we extrapolate from the other coronaviruses that we
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call the hot ones the ones that cause serious illness SARS and MERS that immunity appears to be
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solid at 17 years and going holy cow so i think it's lifelong and you know they rounded up i don't know
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people know this they rounded up the survivors of the 1918 spanish flu about 15 years ago and they
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tested them and they still had activated immune cells b cells and t cells nine decades later so i think
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your immunity is lifelong that's that's hopeful uh one other question for you doctor so both glenn and i
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had covid glenn had a really aggressive case and was wiped out for a couple weeks right yeah it took me
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eight weeks to get really fully back yeah and longer term yeah long-term symptoms i had an asymptomatic
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case didn't even know i had it other than a test because i was around someone else who had it with
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symptoms uh is there a difference between our immunity in those situations am i better than he is
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um yeah yes in in your professions i can't say you're better glenn but in terms of immunity
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whoa whoa whoa whoa you're talking to a hall of fame recipient and some crumb bum that just i've been
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dragging along well it may be true it may be true i just i don't have enough data points but um in terms
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of immunity you are better glenn because the degree of immune protection is proportional to how severe your
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illness was so the one group who has natural immunity where i say you know i'd get at least
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one dose of the vaccine are those who had an asymptomatic uh covid infection okay doctor thank
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you so much i really appreciate it i know you are taking such a hit for this uh and people are taking
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the things that you say out of context and making you sound like an anti-vaxxer and you clearly are not
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anti-vaccine and uh i just appreciate your willingness to stand up um against the the mobs
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on all sides thank you well thanks for saying that appreciate good to be with you guys yeah good to be
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with you the name of his book is the price we pay um and you can find it his name is marty mccary
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dr mccary he's a professor at johns hopkins school of medicine
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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so still let's play a little inflation game yeah all right the inflation game
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let's see if the number is higher or lower and can you guess the inflation number without going over
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or under so i have to guess it exactly is the game well i try to make it a little hard uh all right
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uh all items uh 12 months for also year to year all items are up how much well i've been looking
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closely at the government reporting so i'll say 0.1 0.1 0.1 oh sorry sorry uh 5.4 wow now what's the fed
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target two two two and i think they may have raised it to two and a half maybe two and a half
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that's their job okay that's what they were that's what they were built for to make sure that we can
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get inflation under control so we don't have banking collapses which don't think too hard or remember
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anything that's happened in your lifetime it's gonna stop all banking collapses and we're gonna
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keep inflation under control and yes we're printing more money than god has even the ability to count
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uh but it's transitory inflation transitory 5.4 now how much has food gone up now overall food
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gone up 3.4 food at home how much is your how much more are your groceries costing you this year
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i have no idea glenn all right oh sorry all i know is stuff keeps showing up on the front porch
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every single day in giant piles and all of our money's gone that's all i know and jeff bezos just
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was shot into space 2.2.6 it's gone up food outside the home gone up 4.6 now i'm gonna give you a
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couple i'm gonna skip one sector here and uh let's go to uh commodities less food and energy so these are
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all other commodities uh except for food and uh transportation or energy sorry food and and
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transportation gone up 8.5 wow new vehicles gone up 6.4 percent used cars and trucks and i would love
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someone to explain this to me used cars and trucks up 41.7 percent now the only thing that i
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have heard as an explanation and we've talked about this a little bit yeah yeah is the shortage of
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these components for new cars so that people can't get the new cars that does not sound like an american
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philosophy that does not sound like the average person out there going you know what i hear these
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chips and so what i'm going to do is buy that does no i mean like so the new cars aren't as available
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so people are having to go to the used car market more often okay that's what i mean okay that makes
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sense that makes sense 41.7 that's incredible seven i sold my truck i had to get a dually
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because i got a trailer on it i got all stuff around uh so i got a dually i sold my truck that
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was what three years old for the price i paid for it i've never done that in my life that's never
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occurred that's never occurred occurred in human history craig who had he just sold his truck uh you
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know a few months ago he actually got more than what he paid for it yeah you don't normally profit
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on used car sales car sales no uh uh clothing and apparel has gone up 4.2 medical care down 2.1
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oh that's great uh shelter up 2.8 uh depends on where you are depends on where you are uh if you're
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living in texas right now oh my gosh as long as you don't want to live in texas you could you could
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rake in the money on selling your home right now yeah the housing market's been going crazy when they
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say shelter that i would assume also includes rent yeah built in there but rent is way up right i know
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somebody who has been trying to buy a house the banks are requiring 50 down now 50 percent i was
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looking at some data from new york city because obviously it's been a big topic because of covid
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yeah and their purchase real estate hasn't really seen maybe at the very high end kind of came down a
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little bit but generally speaking even through covid didn't it wasn't the purchase real estate
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wasn't all that affected what was really affected were rents so people could say you know for that
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18 square foot apartment you were renting for nine thousand dollars a month you could get that for like
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seven grand now it's starting to race back up again but it was it did have a uh there was a period
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there particularly in new york and maybe hard hit cities around the country but i as far as the
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country goes overall rents have been holding holding up pretty well uh yeah rents here in texas
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are through the roof trying to rent someplace is is crazy well i mean sarah you probably oh you're still
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living in the hotel aren't you yeah sarah has permanently moved into a hotel she's now decided
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she's just a hotel girl she's gonna be she's gonna live the hotel are they working on your house yet
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because mine's gonna be done in two weeks you know oh my gosh really yeah congratulations two weeks
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two weeks it's gonna be done yesterday i just posted this video on my uh on my instagram i was
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going to bed last night and um i walk into my bedroom which has my parts of my living room family room
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a little bit of my office sure uh and all and it's all in my master bedroom and so i took a
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uh instagram uh video of it and uh that's when i that's when i discovered because they told me it'll
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be two you know it's gonna be two weeks two weeks you're all done a couple weeks a couple weeks it's
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all gonna be done and uh so i was just kind of scanning the room until i got right next to my
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nightstand where the the face plate for the dishwasher was living and i'm like i think it's
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gonna be longer than two weeks i just think it's going to be a little longer than two weeks but
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maybe that's just me anyway um so shelter is up 2.8 transportation services are up 6.4
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now let me get to this one okay because they're blaming this all on covid that's all covid it's all
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covid you know covid covid covid that's why it's going to be transitory transitory yeah no it's not
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all covid because where is where are we really getting hit listen to these numbers energy overall
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is up 23 percent so you're paying 23 percent more for the energy sector yeah i could just add on to
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that glenn all the spending obviously is a huge part of this too multiple we spent five trillion
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dollars on covid have another five trillion around the corner on infrastructure and basically green
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new deal with a different name um but the green new deal part of this multiple trillions of dollars
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that are around the corner yeah is going to make that number much much worse not just because of
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the spending but because what we're going to do is take away cheap energy and implement expensive energy
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no so it's that number is going to get much we're relying on opec now because our our solar panels
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we're relying on opec oh sure okay our our gasoline is up 41 percent for year over year 41 percent
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hang on just a second i can hear the cries for trump listen up 41 percent fuel oil in the summer
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fuel oil is up 39 percent electricity is up 4 percent now as stew said this is before the other five
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trillion dollars of spending is flooded into the market and if you want to buy a house well good
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luck getting cement for the for the foundation because the government is going to be using all
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this money to buy cement they are competing with you and they've got five trillion dollars who do you
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think is going to get it and then when they start to mandate things which they are what do you think
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that's going to do to drive up prices or do you think it'll make it cheaper let me give you this
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i was telling you last hour um the car companies are now saying 2030 is about the last combustion engine
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okay 2030 for some companies most companies are right around there well i mean i'm hoping some magic
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because what that'll mean is we all have to get uh electricity for our cars because you won't have a
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gasoline engine if you're going to buy a new car you'll have to have electricity let me ask you
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california when it gets hot there why do you have rolling blackouts or brownouts what do they tell
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you to do turn down the air conditioning because everybody using air conditioning it's too much of
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a load on the power grid what happens when we all plug cars into the power grid and are sucking juice
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in a cold or hot time what happens when we even we live in san diego let's say it's perfect weather
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all the time where do we get all that extra juice to plug our cars in well you're leaving out the fact
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that this is why environmentalists are so passionate about nuclear energy they're constantly promoting
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it trying to jam it down our throats as this unending amount of clean energy that we already have a good
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handle on scientifically yeah yeah yeah we do they're not for it no they're yeah um solar panels
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you know who's a gift this is a gift to china china has all of the rare earth minerals they have
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everything to make solar panels they have everything to make batteries we don't we don't we won't explore
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we won't exploit we won't dig we won't look we won't use so we're giving this giant gift
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to china we'll be reliant on china for all of these things oh and by the way solar panels as someone who
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has a 100 off the grid 100 green energy uh home it sucks beyond belief and it's wildly expensive
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so i mean if you're nancy pelosi and you have refrigerators and freezers uh subzeros full of
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exotic ice creams that you have uh jenny's splendid yeah jenny's splendid and and and uh and rosarita
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comes and she she puts it in there i don't even know how it appears there in my uh freezer you can
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afford it but the average person is not going to be able to afford these things but the government
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will subsidize stew hold on now you said a minute ago that it's not about whether or not this is
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better or more effective or cheaper it's about locking us into what an infrastructure it's about
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like the package like an infrastructure package kind of yeah i wonder if those two are related
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it's weird now because we're as conservatives we're supposed to say this is an infrastructure
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what are you talking about they're trying to say that this stuff is infrastructure ha ha ha ha
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it is infrastructure yeah as you pointed out they're building something yeah and you're not
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gonna like what they're building bring out the monster ah it's coming it's true it's not roads
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and bridges but it's other things so if you think about the way this stuff works it's about locking you
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into infrastructure there are there are countries that use coal to oil technology right that they use
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they had to develop an industry around this at the time and they continue to use it because it's
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already built france woke france france that's on the page with every environmentalist in the world
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for some reason has 70 of its electricity generated by nuclear power no that's not true don't tell me
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that now france this has resulted in them having the lowest energy prices in europe basically but well
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that's that's now bad so they're on the path to reverse this process and they are building giant
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windmills that don't provide energy right now they want to produce this to 50 percent over the next you
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know decade or two why why but like look at how difficult this is for a country that doesn't want
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nuclear energy they're locked into it because at the time they correctly selected nuclear but now it's
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become unfashionable the same thing has happened in germany germany when it was fast hang on just a
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second i would just like to point out energy shouldn't be dictated by fashion thank you okay
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it's not like a pair of bell-bottom jeans you know you can just go i never wore those things this works
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yeah you shouldn't care about fashion germany was proposed with a big issue of building tons and tons
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tons of solar panels converting lots of their energy to solar energy and you think germany you
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think beautiful sunshine oh so so there was a fight about this at the time and the fight was
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these aren't efficient enough they don't work it's going to cost us a fortune blah blah blah blah blah
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all the arguments that are correct that we would bring up but the point of this was not that these
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panels worked well they were crappy early technology and they don't work nearly as well as the stuff
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that's out there today as i know because i just had to replace my panels and the batteries and
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everything else right my solar panels which cost me a fortune because they're not as efficient and we
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can actually we can actually provide power for your house now right the environmentalist uh the
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brilliance of the environmentalist plan here was not to get reliable cheap energy to people in germany
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it was to change their system to be a much more solar intensive system so then when the crappy panels
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ran out what are they going to do they're a solar system they replace it with new solar panels they
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locked it in early when it didn't work and once you build that infrastructure no matter what your
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decision making is it's almost impossible to change which is what this 3.5 trillion dollars that's
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right around the corner is attempting to do all over our economy lock in things that whether they
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work or not it doesn't matter the point is they're there and they're impossible to reverse
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this is the glenn beck program we're glad you're with us
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so here we find ourselves in a situation uh that what are you reading that you're you've got a
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nasty face is there some breaking news that does worse than everything we're talking about just
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looking at your instagram your what your instagram man just some photos of you and found them
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disturbing so um no uh so you said something disturbing before the break which i'm trying
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to process exactly what what the answer to it is you said look at all the things that are happening
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they're acting against the constitution they're doing all these things that are pushing us into
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this little box i feel like they've crossed the line what do we do now to summarize yeah i asked you
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you asked me and i said i well like you're it seemed like a question that that deserved more
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than the eight seconds before sure the commercial break that we had so i usually don't ask questions
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of you uh unless i know an answer because i know you're going to turn it around and say you're either
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going to give me an answer which i have to best you uh on oh is that how it works or uh you know
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uh i just have to ridicule you uh those are the only two only two options wow yeah you think as a
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hall of fame radio broadcaster that's why i'm in the hall of fame and you're not you don't know the
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rules that's a good point and you've bested me once again right so i mean what what is your solution
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do you do you know do you are have they crossed the lines are they close to a red line where you're
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like okay this is not this this is not uh my country as i understand it and so i can't participate
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in some things i i i'm going to stand up against it i'm still going to vote because that's the best way
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to protest at this point uh but uh you know right i mean you you seem to be alluding to something
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outside of the norm not voting right you didn't seem like you're like well you know well i want
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to make sure people get to the polls in 18 months i do want to make sure yes that will be a big deal
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that didn't seem like what you were pitching which is why i i was my brow no i was asking you i was
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asking you yeah i mean my i think my initial impression right just quick reaction is i'm typically
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more optimistic in these situations than you are and you know have more hope that we will find a way out
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it doesn't necessarily mean that i i don't think our entire country has failed and i think the
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things that we don't think it's failed is just being taken over yeah and completely redesigned and
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we have to push back against those things the question your question is how do we do that yeah
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what do you do from here if you feel like okay uh i i can't live in the america that they are suggesting
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um and do nothing because it's my responsibility to keep freedom alive for my children uh and i don't
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think that we define freedom the same way anymore um and when you have when you're when you're violating
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all 10 of the bill of rights what what do you have i mean that's what we used to agree on
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we used to agree on just the bill of rights the basics the basics uh so we don't so now you're
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you're sitting here in a place to where you just go numb and you just accept it which i think most
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people are going to do uh or you are really foolish and dangerous and you give them everything they want
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and you become violent that is only going to make things worse you've seen how that worked out with
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a few hundred people on january 6th correct right it only will destroy everything so then what's left
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well we have to continue to go to our local local local local school boards city councils um you know
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all of the things that are happening in our own town and make sure we shore those up and all of those
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things like the local coca-cola bottling company i'd love to hear from somebody if they're taking me up on
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any of this stuff going and going to subway and saying to the local franchise look i you know i can't
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eat here anymore i can't eat here anymore your company is holding up anti-american values as your
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spokespeople now that's the least of our problems right but it's an easy example to understand yeah
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yeah okay megan rapinoe whatever stupid name is so you locally go and you hit franchisee owners and you
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hit them with love because most of them are like you they live in the same community and so they
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may agree with you but they're stuck because that's what the that that's what the corporate
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you know uh brand is doing and i don't have anything to do with it well yeah you do you can
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raise your voice and the franchisees will make an impact but we have to motivate them to make an impact
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the most important thing that you can do and i have to tell you
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i took so much heat for this for so long and people thought i was nuts maybe today as i read these words
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maybe today they will connect with you because i think it takes a desperate people
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or in our case and many of the people in our audience people that can see what's coming
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and prepare for it but you need to print this out now and give it to everyone you know and you need
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i hereby pledge myself my person and my body to the non-violent movement
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therefore i will keep the following ten commandments
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this is martin luther king meditate daily on the teachings and life of jesus
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now if you can find somebody and you're not religious find somebody that is gandhi gandhi
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he didn't accept jesus but he lived the life of jesus in many ways
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remember to remember always that the non-violent movement seeks justice and reconciliation not victory
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i'll tell you when you ponder on that one for a while you're going to figure out how hard that is
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we want those neighbors and people that we work with and our friends to be wrong
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and we want to be right and we want to say i told you so
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i know the republican party has been wrong on things