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00:00:33.340 We start with a historic moment in radio that kind of helps us ask a few questions that maybe should be asked about the drones in New Jersey.

00:00:43.820 Also, is the reason that Joe Biden pardoned all these Chinese spies to take away the heat from his family pardons, or is there more to that?

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00:00:59.060 I had heard that a lot of it had been changed and it kind of was in, they were trying to make it into a temple of reason.

00:01:05.660 Is that true?

00:01:07.280 What, what did they actually do to that classic temple?

00:01:11.380 He is the professor of architecture in Notre Dame.

00:01:14.300 He'll tell us all about it on today's podcast.

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00:02:44.040 Okay, so this is, this, I want to talk to you a little bit about history.

00:02:48.660 And there's a reason I'm going to take you through this.

00:02:51.240 Because I need you to understand, in many ways, we have been here before.

00:03:01.100 And while what was being said at the time wasn't true, in some ways, in some ways, and I'll explain, it was.

00:03:17.080 And why people went crazy.

00:03:23.620 Ever since I've been hearing about these drones, and I know it's me because I'm just a weird radio freak.

00:03:31.180 But I've been thinking of Trenton, New Jersey, Trenton, New Jersey.

00:03:36.140 Every time I hear it, it's over New Jersey.

00:03:39.160 I think of a time before television, where people sat in front of their radios and listened to music and news reports and plays and other programs for entertainment.

00:03:49.120 In 1938, you were only about 10 years into almost everybody having a radio in their home.

00:04:02.280 Okay.

00:04:02.500 So you're about as far away from the beginning of radio en masse as we are now from everybody having a cell phone.

00:04:12.640 You know, smartphone, okay, and social media.

00:04:17.120 So we see the effects, and society completely changed.

00:04:22.260 And just like everybody does now, we're at the end, hopefully, the beginning of the end of everybody just trusting what's online, people have a hard time trusting anything.

00:04:35.800 They trust what's in people's hands as they film something much more than they believe anything else, right?

00:04:45.360 If I'm hearing it from a regular person, I trust it more, okay?

00:04:52.560 Media has destroyed itself.

00:04:55.460 Media hadn't destroyed itself in 1938.

00:04:58.060 At the time, the chase in Sanborn hour was number one.

00:05:03.780 This is how desperate people were for entertainment.

00:05:07.660 On Sunday nights at 8 o'clock, Charlie McCarthy was the number one draw of radio.

00:05:14.460 Charlie McCarthy was a ventriloquist doll.

00:05:20.900 Now, how hard is it to be a ventriloquist on radio?

00:05:28.660 All right.

00:05:31.080 That was the number one thing, and it was always in this chase in Sanborn hour, but they usually led with something kind of boring.

00:05:40.360 And on this particular Sunday evening, the day before Halloween, a guy named Orson Welles, who was looking to make a name for himself for his radio program because he couldn't get past Charlie McCarthy, decided to do something that had never been done.

00:05:57.220 He took an old novel set in England, H.G.

00:06:02.080 Wells' War of the Worlds.

00:06:03.160 And at 8 o'clock that night, he gives a quick little, like, one-minute opening.

00:06:12.160 And you know it's a show, but remember, everyone at that time is tuned in to chase in Sanborn to see who was on the show and when Charlie McCarthy was going to come on.

00:06:24.380 So most of America missed this.

00:06:28.140 The Columbia Broadcasting System and its affiliated stations present Orson Welles and the Mercury Theater on the air in The War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells.

00:06:41.560 Clearly a radio program.

00:06:43.720 And then Orson Welles himself steps up to the mic to begin the narration.

00:06:58.080 Ladies and gentlemen, the director of the Mercury Theater and star of these broadcasts, Orson Welles.

00:07:03.140 We know now that in the early years of the 20th century, this world was being watched closely by intelligences greater than man's.

00:07:13.680 Stop.

00:07:17.300 I want you to put yourself, not just what, and listen to what he's saying, but also listen to the words he's saying and apply them today.

00:07:29.560 Now, he's just narrating, and he says, in the early 20th century, the world was worried that there were intelligences beyond our own, beyond our own capabilities that could harm us.

00:07:49.680 Hmm.

00:07:51.560 All right, next.

00:07:52.720 And yet as mortal as his own, we know now that as human beings busied themselves about their various concerns, they were scrutinized and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinize the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water.

00:08:13.460 Stop.

00:08:17.080 Are we being scrutinized?

00:08:18.800 Is everything we're doing being scrutinized, monitored, cataloged?

00:08:27.120 Is there an intelligence out there that is, that knows us better than we know ourselves?

00:08:38.960 With infinite complacence, people went to and fro over the earth about their little affairs.

00:08:44.180 Serene in the assurance of their dominion over this small, spinning fragment of solar driftwood, which by chance or design, man has inherited out of the dark mystery of time and space.

00:08:57.260 Yet across an immense ethereal gulf, minds that are to our minds, as ours are to the beasts in the jungle, intellects, vast, cool, and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us.

00:09:20.960 In the 39th year of the 20th century came the Great Disillusionment.

00:09:24.280 The Great Disillusionment?

00:09:25.320 It was near the end of October.

00:09:28.720 Business was better.

00:09:30.120 Business is better.

00:09:31.080 War scare was over.

00:09:32.100 War scare is over.

00:09:33.220 More men were back at work.

00:09:34.800 Hmm.

00:09:35.460 Sales were picking up.

00:09:36.680 Sales were picking up.

00:09:37.940 On this particular evening, October 30th, the Crosley service estimated that 32 million people were listening in on radios.

00:09:47.160 All right, that's interesting.

00:09:48.320 The war scare in 1938, we thought Hitler was going to invade, but, you know, Neville Chamberlain is just about to meet or just did meet with Hitler.

00:10:02.940 He's promising peace.

00:10:04.780 He doesn't invade until 39.

00:10:06.840 All right.

00:10:07.260 So the war scare is over.

00:10:09.000 Kind of like we all know Trump is coming into office and the war scare is over.

00:10:16.720 Does anybody else see any parallels to what's happening to us right now?

00:10:26.080 So he stops being the narrator and then he just becomes a character because nobody heard that part.

00:10:33.500 They were listening for Charlie McCarthy.

00:10:35.780 And it was about this time that people started to dial surf.

00:10:39.780 And at this time, they interrupt a program and say that there's been flashes off of Mars and they don't know what it is.

00:10:52.260 And then there are things seen in the sky, lights seen in the sky over New York and New Jersey.

00:11:00.260 And then something crashes in Grover's Mill.

00:11:04.920 So they send a team from Trenton, New Jersey.

00:11:07.820 They send the state police from Trenton, New Jersey to find out what it is.

00:11:15.440 In a few minutes, the Pentagon, not the Pentagon at the time, the War Department or the the defense secretary will step to the microphone first and say, we have no idea what this is.

00:11:29.020 There's nothing to worry about.

00:11:30.160 And then they start broadcasting and listen to what happens.

00:11:38.020 Now nearer home comes a special bulletin from Trenton, New Jersey.

00:11:42.000 It is reported that at 8.50 p.m. a huge flaming object, believed to be a meteorite, fell on a farm in the neighborhood of Grover's Mill, New Jersey, 22 miles from Trenton.

00:11:51.220 The flash in the sky was visible within a radius of several hundred miles.

00:11:54.760 And the noise of the impact was heard as far north as Elizabeth.

00:11:57.160 We have dispatched a special mobile unit to the scene and we'll have our commentator, Carl Phillips, give you a word picture of the scene as soon as he can reach there from Princeton.

00:12:06.100 In the meantime, we take you to the Hotel Martinette in Brooklyn, where Bobby Millette and his orchestra are offering a program of dance music.

00:12:12.940 So you turn over from the other station and you just hear that news break and you're like, wow, that's weird.

00:12:19.300 I wonder what that is.

00:12:20.880 And then they play this little bit of music and they break in back from Trenton.

00:12:25.040 And now I'm referring to Carl Phillips at Grover's Mill.

00:12:26.960 And he's there that quick.

00:12:30.680 Ladies and gentlemen, here I am, back of a stone wall that adjoins Mr. Wilma's garden.

00:12:37.120 From here, I get a sweep of the whole scene.

00:12:39.540 I'll give you every detail as long as I can talk and as long as I can see.

00:12:43.340 More state police have arrived.

00:12:44.640 They're drawing up a cordon in front of the pit.

00:12:46.820 About 30 of them.

00:12:48.600 No need to push the crowd back now.

00:12:50.300 They're willing to keep their distance.

00:12:52.440 The captain's conferring with someone.

00:12:54.600 Can't quite see who.

00:12:56.220 Ah, yes, I believe it's Professor Pearson.

00:12:57.900 Yes, it is.

00:12:58.760 Now they've parted and the professor moves around one side, studying the object while the captain and two policemen advance with something in their hands.

00:13:05.900 I can see it now.

00:13:06.640 It's a white hexade tied to a pole.

00:13:08.940 Because something had come out of this meteor.

00:13:12.940 What anything means.

00:13:15.080 Wait a minute, something's happening.

00:13:17.240 Humped shape is rising out of the pit.

00:13:19.980 I can make out a small beam of light against a mirror.

00:13:24.740 There's a jet of flame springing from the mirror that leaps right at the advancing men.

00:13:29.900 He strikes them head on.

00:13:31.640 Lords are turning into flames.

00:13:33.580 Now the whole field's caught up by the woods.

00:13:34.780 The bars, the gas tank tanks of the automobiles are spreading everywhere.

00:13:38.840 Coming this way now, about 20 yards to my right.

00:13:41.880 And then the broadcast cuts out.

00:13:43.760 And there's about 10 seconds of silence and everybody in America is like, oh my gosh, what just happened?

00:13:51.900 What just happened?

00:13:54.200 This might sound hokey to you now.

00:14:02.580 Just as a lot of the stuff we're looking at now, in 10, 20, 70, 90 years from now, people will say, how the hell did they believe that?

00:14:16.520 But this is the way radio actually sounded.

00:14:24.520 Just the year before this broadcast, America heard this over and over and over again.

00:14:37.940 It's starting to rain again.

00:14:40.260 The rain had slacked up a little bit.

00:14:43.600 The back motors of the ship are just holding it just enough to keep it from...

00:14:48.740 It burst into flames.

00:14:49.680 Get this shotty, get this shotty. 0.98

00:14:51.020 It's right, and it's crashing.

00:14:52.540 It's crashing terrible.

00:14:54.020 Oh my, get out of the way, please. 1.00

00:14:55.880 It's burning, bursting into flames, and it's falling on the morning fast.

00:14:59.020 And all the folks between us, this is terrible.

00:15:00.880 This is one of the worst catastrophes in the world.

00:15:02.940 Oh, it's like 20, oh, 400 or 500 feet into the sky, and it's a terrific crash, ladies and gentlemen.

00:15:11.120 The smoke and the flames now, and the flames rising to the ground, not quite to the mooring mass.

00:15:17.220 Oh, the humanity and all the passengers speeding around.

00:15:20.680 I don't, I can't even talk to people around there.

00:15:27.220 It's, oh, I can't talk, ladies and gentlemen.

00:15:30.960 But honestly, it's just laying down massive smoking wreckage.

00:15:34.960 And everybody can hardly breathe and talk and screaming.

00:15:38.540 Lady, I'm sorry.

00:15:41.400 Honestly, I can hardly breathe.

00:15:44.020 I'm going to step inside while I cannot see it.

00:15:47.540 Charlie, that's terrible.

00:15:50.300 I can't.

00:15:51.640 Listen, folks, I'm going to have to stop for a minute because I've lost the voice.

00:15:55.680 This is the worst thing I've ever witnessed.

00:15:57.040 Sound kind of like what they'd hear on the radio a year later?

00:16:06.900 Almost exactly.

00:16:14.600 So now why is this important today with what's happening over New Jersey in the skies?

00:16:24.800 Still, let me, let me just ask you a series of questions here.

00:16:31.860 What is that story that has been shocking to you and I for the last five years and shocking because nobody's talking about it and it's pretty big.

00:16:44.900 And the government keeps furthering the storyline.

00:16:48.900 You're talking about the weird things with UFOs over the past few years.

00:16:53.500 Yeah, right.

00:16:54.480 Okay.

00:16:55.040 That there's these ships that are just appearing and we have no idea what they are.

00:17:01.680 Could be ours.

00:17:03.000 Could be somebody else's.

00:17:04.920 We don't think they're ours.

00:17:06.880 But when does the government tell you the truth on things like this?

00:17:10.720 Okay.

00:17:11.060 Then what was the next part in the story?

00:17:14.260 First, we found out UFOs are real.

00:17:16.700 Then what was the next part of the story?

00:17:18.980 You remember?

00:17:20.200 We have some.

00:17:23.220 We have pieces of some.

00:17:25.380 And we're trying to build them and retro design, design from what we have and understand, design something using the technology that we found, right?

00:17:41.660 Reverse engineer.

00:17:42.680 Reverse engineering.

00:17:43.520 Thank you.

00:17:44.680 That was the next step.

00:17:46.620 Then the latest step is we or someone else has them.

00:17:54.980 We're worried that Russia has them. 0.74

00:17:57.500 China has them.

00:17:59.660 We don't know if we have any.

00:18:02.920 Okay.

00:18:04.040 But whoever gets there controls the world because you can't track them.

00:18:13.840 They're too fast.

00:18:15.540 They avoid all radar.

00:18:18.140 They avoid everything.

00:18:20.680 You can't track them.

00:18:21.680 They can fly in the sky.

00:18:22.780 They can stop.

00:18:23.600 They can go underwater.

00:18:25.340 You just can't track them.

00:18:28.080 That was the latest in that five-year saga if you were paying attention to it.

00:18:34.860 Correct?

00:18:37.380 Yeah.

00:18:38.140 I mean, I guess maybe I remember parts, bits, and pieces of this.

00:18:42.860 But it's weird, and you made this point before, but you'd think every one of these developments would be the only thing we're talking about.

00:18:49.280 Correct.

00:18:49.620 But there's been so much other stuff that it's been lost in the noise a little for me.

00:18:54.300 Correct.

00:18:55.480 Lost in the noise.

00:18:57.460 Now, let me ask you, which one is noise?

00:19:04.520 Is the whole UFO thing noise?

00:19:09.500 Or is the whole what's going on in Washington noise?

00:19:15.300 Is the whole what's going on in Washington?

00:19:18.900 Which is which?

00:19:22.560 And why can't we figure it out?

00:19:27.660 What would we have said 25 years ago?

00:19:32.200 25 years ago this was happening, we would have said, that's the United States government doing something, right?

00:19:41.040 And that's what I said to you yesterday.

00:19:43.240 But then some other things happened last night, and I thought, how could I have gotten on yesterday and said with such a surety, this is nothing.

00:19:55.280 This is us.

00:19:56.180 Because this isn't Orson Welles, or is it Orson Welles, but not being paid by the media?

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00:21:31.040 Before we get back into the drone story, I want to just give you some disturbing things that are happening.

00:21:41.320 President Joe Biden is commuting the sentences of 1,500 Americans who were released from prison, placed on house arrest during the pandemic, will be pardoning 39 individuals who were convicted of nonviolent crimes.

00:21:55.800 Okay.

00:21:56.240 That's the largest single day clemency in modern history.

00:21:59.420 Okay.

00:21:59.960 All right.

00:22:00.300 But he's also now pardoning people who are murderers on death row and setting them free.

00:22:11.760 Now, that is disturbing until you read this.

00:22:17.400 President Joe Biden announced on Thursday, granting 39 pardons, 1,499 commutations in his administration, blah, blah, blah.

00:22:25.040 However, as you're looking through, Joe Biden just pardoned multiple Chinese spies, also an individual that was convicted of possessing child pornography.

00:22:41.080 Now, why?

00:22:45.620 Child pornography?

00:22:47.280 I don't know.

00:22:48.100 Maybe that was his son.

00:22:49.520 I didn't see any on his laptop, but would anybody be surprised?

00:22:55.940 And we know that the Hollywood group and everybody else, even the teachers union, just doesn't seem to have a problem with any of that.

00:23:06.700 But the Chinese spies.

00:23:09.640 Now, that seems a little odd, doesn't it?

00:23:15.840 Why would you pardon?

00:23:16.500 I mean, you exchange spies.

00:23:19.560 You don't pardon spies.

00:23:23.260 You know, unless you've been taking money from.

00:23:25.540 Oh, but that's right.

00:23:27.040 His son, who was the one that was actually taking money from the communist government, has been pardoned for everything that he did or may have done.

00:23:39.080 Beginning in 2014, up to today.

00:23:42.060 Okay.

00:23:42.860 Sorry.

00:23:43.540 Two weeks ago.

00:23:45.280 Gee, what?

00:23:46.020 What?

00:23:46.320 2014.

00:23:47.060 Why was it that?

00:23:47.760 Oh, that's right.

00:23:48.260 Because that's when Ukraine started. 0.91

00:23:51.620 What was happening in Ukraine?

00:23:54.240 Well, as we showed you when we did our investigation on that perfect phone call in a four episode series on what really happened in Ukraine.

00:24:05.040 When we did this, I don't know, 2018, we were shocked at what we found.

00:24:11.260 What we found was the United States was sending money to NGOs.

00:24:16.880 It was all dirty money.

00:24:18.800 They were doing all over doing all kinds of things and trying to overthrow the government and did of Ukraine.

00:24:27.440 And who was one of them besides the Biden's Hillary Clinton. 0.97

00:24:32.860 Now, isn't it strange that for the first time, Bill Clinton comes out and says, hey, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not wanting my wife to be pardoned.

00:24:44.660 Well, she didn't do anything. 0.99

00:24:45.980 Except yesterday.

00:24:47.020 He's saying to the Biden's, hey, can you, maybe you should add my wife to a pardon.

00:24:53.400 Why?

00:24:53.960 because it he's not donald trump already proved he wasn't going to go after her why she's not a 0.50

00:25:00.600 political enemy at this point but she's deeply involved in ukraine oh by the way did i mention

00:25:07.840 earlier this week president biden gave another 600 million dollars to ukraine and yesterday

00:25:15.360 another aid package to ukraine worth 500 million was granted huh now as i said last hour

00:25:26.980 we have all relaxed a little bit on war because donald trump is coming in but we see what our

00:25:37.920 government and joe biden's administration is doing just to keep poking and poking and poking

00:25:43.460 and trying to get people to respond democrats uh now have called on biden to tie trump's hands

00:25:50.960 over the u.s nuclear strike capabilities that is the job of the president of the united states

00:26:00.080 they want him to now tie the hands on our strike donald trump is the clearest president on nuclear

00:26:09.760 weapons since ronald reagan they cannot be used if you do anything with nuclear weapons

00:26:19.040 we blow up the entire world we kill everybody you cannot he's been warning and warning and warning 0.98

00:26:28.440 and the threat is what matters but why do the democrats want to take that threat

00:26:37.600 off oh by the way also the doj the um the investigating general uh that office um um it came out and said

00:26:47.860 by the way uh yeah we found out 20 uh 26 fbi informants were there on january 6th they were what

00:26:55.220 a shock meanwhile pete hegseth there was a story going around yesterday he never even he wasn't even

00:27:03.160 uh he didn't even apply to go to west point he certainly wasn't accepted and we've talked to the

00:27:09.780 government officials at west point and they agree nope not true how did that end he happened to keep

00:27:15.820 their letter accepting him into west point

00:27:20.340 okay

00:27:23.980 so so i just want you to think about everything that is going on as we go back to the drone story

00:27:32.100 i want you to remember the record of our military right now under this president i want you to keep

00:27:41.160 uh remembering that guy is barely in control of his bladder let alone the united states of america

00:27:51.340 he's just pardoned chinese spies who are known for their drones

00:27:59.920 china just gave a bunch of drones to iran which he has also funded

00:28:08.880 now i told you last hour the most boring explanation of this

00:28:18.180 is these drones that are over new jersey and everywhere else

00:28:22.960 that they can't seem to lock in they can't detect them on radar

00:28:27.340 hmm wow that seems like a problem

00:28:29.860 uh

00:28:31.540 that these drones the most boring explanation is

00:28:35.340 some of them aren't drones they're just

00:28:37.880 people are seeing things that aren't there or they're they're seeing planes that they think are drones

00:28:42.900 um

00:28:43.880 but some of them are drones this again this is the this is the best explanation i can come up with

00:28:49.260 and like i said yesterday uh and the rest of them are ours and we're showing that the government

00:28:58.680 uh has some new technology that nobody else has that even can get past our defenses

00:29:05.320 okay all right maybe maybe but it's from this government this administration that is projected

00:29:14.040 weakness

00:29:14.900 forever

00:29:16.180 my mind changed yesterday when i read about the spies being

00:29:20.600 and i thought you know what that is

00:29:22.840 this is this would be too strong for this pentagon

00:29:27.760 and this group of girls in the white house

00:29:32.540 to project strength to the rest of the world i don't believe it

00:29:36.100 i just i i i it probably is true

00:29:39.140 i no longer believe what i told you yesterday

00:29:41.800 okay

00:29:42.740 the problem with the the most boring explanation that it's

00:29:48.260 it's it's really just hobbyists

00:29:51.080 is that shows that our government

00:29:54.560 is so inept

00:29:56.880 that we can't catch hobbyists

00:30:00.980 that's a problem

00:30:04.060 that does not project strength

00:30:06.920 to the rest of the world

00:30:08.680 jason buttrell is joining me now chief researcher

00:30:13.260 he's also former military intelligence

00:30:15.900 okay where do you stand on this because yesterday we were kind of in line

00:30:22.260 but i i just have a hard time with this

00:30:25.720 just on the drones or what about the pardons

00:30:28.000 i wanted to interject a couple of different times there

00:30:30.580 so yeah okay so um let's start with the pardons and then we'll get back into the drones go ahead

00:30:35.600 i your tv show on wednesday almost kind of goes right in line with my thinking on these pardons

00:30:41.920 everything is a psyop everything is a deep state psyop

00:30:44.860 i don't buy for a second that right after he pardons hunter biden

00:30:50.000 and we're expecting other pardons like uh maybe james uh maybe his wife who knows how many others he makes a record setting commutation you know pardon list that dominates the headlines and suddenly we're not talking about why did he pardon hunter going from 2014 to 2024 for crimes that he may have committed or did well uh why is he pardoning uh james

00:31:18.760 who else who else is involved what are the connections that we can draw like oh no no now it's just this record-setting commutation

00:31:24.880 no i don't buy for a second that you know and we know that these pardons especially presidential pardons

00:31:31.780 they're not because the president's like you know what i've been following these you know these cases personally

00:31:36.660 no they're being brought to him yes they are

00:31:39.240 and the same way that the military industrial complex is handling in my opinion this drone situation

00:31:44.740 they're the ones directing that it's not the president of the united states definitely not the

00:31:49.000 you know the the guy with the you know the you know the you know the the pudding eater in chief

00:31:54.700 right now he doesn't have any freaking clue what's going on right now president barack obama 0.53

00:31:58.940 or the or exactly right on his third term yeah but i think everything is a psyop and i think that uh

00:32:05.660 i think these pardons are going to get more and more interesting we need to stay on top of them

00:32:09.080 because they're going to try and misdirect our attention on some of these other things but what

00:32:13.760 you really need to be looking at i love the way that you're looking at the china situation these

00:32:16.880 chinese pardons because who are they do they have any connections that go back to cefc i don't know i

00:32:21.960 haven't looked at them but that's the type of questions we need to be asking cefc is the company that

00:32:26.540 that uh the bidens were doing business with um do they have connections with drone technology i don't

00:32:31.700 know how do you go out for instance they're also selling the border fence now we have all this stuff

00:32:37.720 that's ready to go sitting there at the border been sitting there for five years and we tried to

00:32:44.280 sell it once nobody wanted it and so now we're selling it at pennies on the dollar and it's all

00:32:51.520 being hauled away yeah now why would you do that i mean i am approaching the the place and i and stew you

00:33:02.540 know this i do not use the word treason because it is in the constitution and it means death if you're

00:33:10.120 convicted of treason it's very hard to convict somebody of treason etc etc but i'm having a hard

00:33:16.120 time with all of these dots that are out there that are just weakening us trying to preserve that

00:33:26.940 weakness trying to subvert the will of the next president of the united states on not just some

00:33:34.440 things everything everything it it it i'm having a hard time in the last few weeks of this guy

00:33:42.640 you just meaning whether you're gonna because the treason part kind of complicates i think you

00:33:51.340 question no i know i'm saying i'm not saying that but i am um i am for the first time getting to an

00:33:57.380 area where i'm like you know if you can prove all this stuff this was a traitor in chief

00:34:03.260 jeez yeah i mean you know he it's hard to even understand if he's president i don't even know you

00:34:10.880 know you you point out like i don't does he know what's going on i don't even know how that would

00:34:14.140 work honestly in this case because he doesn't seem to be even aware of what's occurring so if

00:34:18.580 he's not president then who is the traitor and because it is treasonous to take the powers of

00:34:26.120 the president and just be a shadow president whether you're vice president or not that also

00:34:33.320 is against the constitution and i it would be nice to you they put on the nice face for the transition

00:34:40.340 they invite the trump to lunch right like there's there are all these nice things that they seem like

00:34:45.660 they're they're doing we're going to give a they make the speeches about the peaceful transition

00:34:50.420 but i mean their actions don't don't line up with that at all you know and i i every everybody we

00:34:59.160 should get back to that it's a good it would be a good idea to get back to that and in respect what

00:35:03.040 the people actually say when they vote it's interesting these you know these these proponents

00:35:08.380 of big government you know like the people that are in power now i think that they're the ones that

00:35:13.820 don't they don't agree with a strong executive and a strong executive used to used to be like a bad

00:35:18.160 word or a dirty word even the founders agreed with a strong executive go back to any of the federal

00:35:23.260 federalist papers when they talk about it they wanted a strong executive they wanted a strong

00:35:27.360 legislative and judicial branch they wanted them strong why because they can they have the power to

00:35:31.820 push back on each other the current brand of progressivism does not want a strong executive

00:35:36.120 they want a committee that's in charge of the executive because it's a hundred years into this

00:35:40.720 and they have eviscerated and congress and the senate have given their powers to the executive

00:35:48.060 branch yep and the executive branch had to be strong to protect all of those things but now the

00:35:54.920 executive branch is so strong the only thing holding it back is the supreme court and so now you want

00:36:04.440 all of the people just to run what the plan has been right you don't need the president anymore

00:36:10.880 well yeah the the president is not the the executive in this case i mean he's part of it but you're

00:36:16.740 mostly looking at his appointed people that are carrying everything out the bureaucracy

00:36:20.480 you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:36:25.060 welcome to the uh glenn beck program so last weekend everybody was in uh well everybody who

00:36:36.460 was anybody of course i wasn't there you weren't there nobody i know was there but all of the

00:36:42.160 leaders of the world were in france for the reopening of the cathedral of notre dame and it's

00:36:49.240 supposed to be marvelous wonderful and uh you know way ahead of schedule etc but i heard at the

00:36:55.680 beginning that they were going to make this kind of into a temple of reason again and kind of finish

00:37:01.220 what the french revolution started um and they they didn't they restored part of it but there was a big

00:37:09.480 argument of do we go modern or do we put the gothic back in and i hate this i absolutely i have no

00:37:18.320 problem against i have no problem with modern architecture um but there is you know jefferson

00:37:25.820 said if you want your civilization to survive even beyond you you must embed your principles

00:37:34.160 in your architecture okay greece we get it because of their architecture a lot of it um the medieval times

00:37:44.160 we get it because of the architecture um and and maybe it's time for all of us to go

00:37:51.920 modern because so much of it makes no sense that you're like yep well that that's a sign of our times

00:37:57.540 um duncan stroik he is an architect and i wanted him on to talk about what what did they do

00:38:06.200 to uh notre dame in the end duncan welcome to the program it's great to be here glenn i've

00:38:13.260 really enjoyed your recent uh programs especially with this uh great time of emphasis on the nativity

00:38:19.660 well thank you very much um so notre dame they the last time that it was that i know of that it was

00:38:29.200 really desecrated in and and almost destroyed was during the french revolution and they wanted to make

00:38:34.800 it a temple of reason and then i heard they were going to do this again and it was going to be to

00:38:41.080 you know the earth and all of this crap did any of that happen and what changes did they make

00:38:47.780 to the to the cathedral that's a great point i agree with you um that our great cathedrals

00:38:57.360 especially in the gothic period have had three enemies fire vandals and iconoclasts

00:39:06.220 and poor notre dame has had all of those uh and the fire was devastating but what makes it even

00:39:15.660 more painful is that after the fire did its work that the iconoclasts came in and wanted to vandalize

00:39:23.680 and was it i mean because i know there was this big panel put together and everything else

00:39:29.780 was there anybody that was really that actually in france believed in god that was on the was on the

00:39:37.800 architectural board i think there is but they're not supposed to admit to it there's a wonderful

00:39:45.240 there's a wonderful interview um with philippe villeneuve who was the head architect and who

00:39:53.220 really fought to restore it the way it was especially the spire the 19th century spire and he gets

00:39:59.600 i give him the major credit for the restoration and preventing the vandals and the iconoclasts from

00:40:05.620 doing their work but philippe never said anything and i talked to him in person a couple of times

00:40:11.560 he never said anything about god or about faith but there's a recent interview with him and he admits

00:40:17.360 uh that he has faith that it's that was kept him going during these last six years and also that

00:40:26.000 the mother of god helped him immensely in rebuilding this little uh church i can't imagine what it was

00:40:33.920 like being a god person rebuilding the most famous cathedral in the world and not be able to say

00:40:42.820 hey you know there's some god stuff here in this gothic architecture we may not want to lose

00:40:48.440 we may not want to lose exactly what exactly and it's so amazing because macron the the president

00:40:56.380 he uh you know originally he wanted to have a competition to redo the outside of it and

00:41:02.160 something 21st century something of our time and uh the elites and the architects were you know uh

00:41:10.580 excited uh you know greedy little uh animals wanting to eat up this beautiful building and

00:41:17.120 fortunately the people of france fought that uh but he did not give up every step of the way he says

00:41:23.620 well could we have a competition to redo the stained glass could we have a competition to redo the side

00:41:29.420 chapels could we you know everything anything he could do get to get the contemporary in there

00:41:34.060 and unfortunately for him not for me but for him the contemporary means the secular so what did

00:41:40.940 what is massively different when you go there now i think philip villeneuve got 98 percent of it i mean

00:41:50.460 he really succeeded they rebuilt the roof exactly the way it was including with medieval axes they rebuilt

00:41:58.900 the spire the way it was in 1860 with uh handmade uh joinery wood joinery uh they redid the lead

00:42:07.340 roof um which is very handmade very phenomenal they redid all the stonework the five huge openings in

00:42:14.920 the ceiling that had been destroyed um they restored and cleaned some of the side chapels and the paintings

00:42:21.660 which just are you know we're kind of dark but now they're beautiful uh so he got 98 percent of it

00:42:27.400 uh macron got very little uh the elite art world that doesn't go to church doesn't believe in church

00:42:35.620 right you know are very influential they got very little but unfortunately the archbishop of

00:42:41.040 was philosophically or at least specifically in league with macron so some of the things that he

00:42:48.500 spent money on um are of the contemporary and most people won't even give them a second thought because

00:42:56.000 they are so out of you know out of uh touch with the rest of the building uh that's actually good news

00:43:02.800 because i thought a lot more had been done that was bad so that this is really good to hear

00:43:06.500 you you are great story it really is i'm very thrilled yeah played of these little minor

00:43:12.380 interior decorating things that look like they're ephemeral and you can get rid of them next year

00:43:17.400 uh it it really is a triumph so you're a professor of architecture at the university of notre dame

00:43:24.020 um and i want to ask you um so much of our architecture is just meaningless and i'm not

00:43:33.460 i'm not against modern architecture um you know some of it is interesting um uh only because of what

00:43:42.860 we can now do um but it's it it doesn't it really even speak to anything you know a century for even a

00:43:51.620 century from now i don't think but i was i was reading that there is this new um uh ai driven

00:44:00.500 machinery that can now recarve from solid marble in a fraction of a time and not even close to the

00:44:11.260 cost you know you could rebuild all of the great statues um and and go back to even a gothic kind of

00:44:20.720 architecture um at a fraction of the cost and the time but i you know i kind of think when you see

00:44:28.160 david i have to tell you i i went to florence and my wife and i stood in the square i didn't know that

00:44:34.420 the one in the square was a fake and we were standing in the square and i went huh well i've seen that

00:44:40.900 before uh in all different sizes and it wasn't that impressive and then i went into the museum where

00:44:47.540 the original is and i cannot tell you what the difference is but that one is alive the other

00:44:55.040 one is not yes what what is the difference and and will you know by by getting rid of handmade things

00:45:05.000 don't you think that just changes absolutely everything totally totally and especially when

00:45:11.900 it comes to art with sculpture with decoration with figures with floral things the hand is where it's

00:45:19.620 at and i do uh we use uh modern technology to cut our marble and our limestone but the thing that gets

00:45:28.140 me so excited is to see that guy with his hands actually right cutting into the stone and making a

00:45:33.760 necantus leaf no question with sculpture i believe totally with sculpture that it's the key

00:45:39.360 uh and so yes the david is a great example because there's a couple of great great copies

00:45:45.260 in florence and the one that we're all moved by is the one by that michelangelo guy why is that

00:45:50.760 and they look identical yes yes totally and they did they were great they were very good sculptors who

00:45:57.660 did it and they were copying it as closely as they could and so uh there's something beautiful about

00:46:02.920 the hand i'm with you and and i really want to and and they did that as much as they could at

00:46:07.280 notre dame in this new restoration and i think we want to and young people were involved in it that's

00:46:12.900 what's also exciting that young people today want to do things with their hands some people do other

00:46:18.640 people want to do video games but you know i think there's i think there's a good future for a lot of

00:46:23.160 this yeah i i think the more we get into ai there's going to be a a real problem of dislocation of

00:46:30.820 people and artists and everything else that we're going to have to figure out soon but once we get

00:46:37.820 past that it's it's kind of like um uh it's kind it's kind of like when the clothing went to machine

00:46:45.980 made at first everybody wanted it made by machine now if it's handmade holy cow is it different you

00:46:53.700 know even from i was just talking to somebody about you know everybody buys ripped jeans now

00:46:58.300 we were embarrassed when i was a kid because our moms would patch them now you'll pay 150 extra if

00:47:05.160 they're patched by a machine but we're trying to buy that authenticity that yeah i wore these out

00:47:11.820 even though we didn't you know what i mean yes yes and one of the things that really amazed me was

00:47:18.780 at the roof of notre dame which took about 1500 trees some 80 feet tall that they had to to use from

00:47:27.300 the old state forests for the for the great buildings to make this roof 100 and 1500 trees

00:47:33.540 and most of them were cut by hand using axes 1500 trees they had 60 men working for three or four

00:47:42.060 years cutting these trees and then forming them into square timbers and then joining them with

00:47:47.260 dovetails and mortise and tenons and it was all handmade how did they get this done i mean the national

00:47:53.000 cathedral in washington dc took forever how did they do this so fast well i think i think it was

00:48:00.880 national pride and it shows you that the french still have it in them to restore but i also believe

00:48:07.360 build things of that quality of the middle ages they still have it they have the people that love it

00:48:12.240 and even though the elites and the leadership you know the political leadership don't think it's valid

00:48:17.760 but the regular people and the craftsmen they know this was a high point this is this is a golden age

00:48:24.660 and that we could do it again today so i'm very excited about the french i want to export the french

00:48:30.100 um these master craftsmen to other countries especially the u.s where we can afford it and get

00:48:36.060 them to train us and lead us to do this in america on a smaller scale or whatever but i think i think we want

00:48:43.460 to do that duncan thank you if you're ever in dallas please let me know i'd love to have lunch with you

00:48:47.780 sometime you're fascinating thank you so much thank you for what you do ben thank you for speaking up

00:48:53.860 you got it uh duncan stroik he is an architect and uh the professor of architecture at the university of

00:48:59.940 notre dame

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