Glenn Beck takes a look at a historic moment in radio and asks the question, why did Joe Biden pardon all the Chinese spies? And we talk to the architect of the Notre Dame about the Cathedral of Notre Dame.
00:00:33.340We start with a historic moment in radio that kind of helps us ask a few questions that maybe should be asked about the drones in New Jersey.
00:00:43.820Also, is the reason that Joe Biden pardoned all these Chinese spies to take away the heat from his family pardons, or is there more to that?
00:00:53.100And we talked to the architect of the University of Notre Dame about the Cathedral of Notre Dame.
00:00:59.060I had heard that a lot of it had been changed and it kind of was in, they were trying to make it into a temple of reason.
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00:03:23.620Ever since I've been hearing about these drones, and I know it's me because I'm just a weird radio freak.
00:03:31.180But I've been thinking of Trenton, New Jersey, Trenton, New Jersey.
00:03:36.140Every time I hear it, it's over New Jersey.
00:03:39.160I think of a time before television, where people sat in front of their radios and listened to music and news reports and plays and other programs for entertainment.
00:03:49.120In 1938, you were only about 10 years into almost everybody having a radio in their home.
00:04:02.500So you're about as far away from the beginning of radio en masse as we are now from everybody having a cell phone.
00:04:12.640You know, smartphone, okay, and social media.
00:04:17.120So we see the effects, and society completely changed.
00:04:22.260And just like everybody does now, we're at the end, hopefully, the beginning of the end of everybody just trusting what's online, people have a hard time trusting anything.
00:04:35.800They trust what's in people's hands as they film something much more than they believe anything else, right?
00:04:45.360If I'm hearing it from a regular person, I trust it more, okay?
00:05:31.080That was the number one thing, and it was always in this chase in Sanborn hour, but they usually led with something kind of boring.
00:05:40.360And on this particular Sunday evening, the day before Halloween, a guy named Orson Welles, who was looking to make a name for himself for his radio program because he couldn't get past Charlie McCarthy, decided to do something that had never been done.
00:05:57.220He took an old novel set in England, H.G.
00:06:03.160And at 8 o'clock that night, he gives a quick little, like, one-minute opening.
00:06:12.160And you know it's a show, but remember, everyone at that time is tuned in to chase in Sanborn to see who was on the show and when Charlie McCarthy was going to come on.
00:06:28.140The Columbia Broadcasting System and its affiliated stations present Orson Welles and the Mercury Theater on the air in The War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells.
00:07:17.300I want you to put yourself, not just what, and listen to what he's saying, but also listen to the words he's saying and apply them today.
00:07:29.560Now, he's just narrating, and he says, in the early 20th century, the world was worried that there were intelligences beyond our own, beyond our own capabilities that could harm us.
00:07:52.720And yet as mortal as his own, we know now that as human beings busied themselves about their various concerns, they were scrutinized and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinize the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water.
00:08:18.800Is everything we're doing being scrutinized, monitored, cataloged?
00:08:27.120Is there an intelligence out there that is, that knows us better than we know ourselves?
00:08:38.960With infinite complacence, people went to and fro over the earth about their little affairs.
00:08:44.180Serene in the assurance of their dominion over this small, spinning fragment of solar driftwood, which by chance or design, man has inherited out of the dark mystery of time and space.
00:08:57.260Yet across an immense ethereal gulf, minds that are to our minds, as ours are to the beasts in the jungle, intellects, vast, cool, and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us.
00:09:20.960In the 39th year of the 20th century came the Great Disillusionment.
00:09:48.320The war scare in 1938, we thought Hitler was going to invade, but, you know, Neville Chamberlain is just about to meet or just did meet with Hitler.
00:10:09.000Kind of like we all know Trump is coming into office and the war scare is over.
00:10:16.720Does anybody else see any parallels to what's happening to us right now?
00:10:26.080So he stops being the narrator and then he just becomes a character because nobody heard that part.
00:10:33.500They were listening for Charlie McCarthy.
00:10:35.780And it was about this time that people started to dial surf.
00:10:39.780And at this time, they interrupt a program and say that there's been flashes off of Mars and they don't know what it is.
00:10:52.260And then there are things seen in the sky, lights seen in the sky over New York and New Jersey.
00:11:00.260And then something crashes in Grover's Mill.
00:11:04.920So they send a team from Trenton, New Jersey.
00:11:07.820They send the state police from Trenton, New Jersey to find out what it is.
00:11:15.440In a few minutes, the Pentagon, not the Pentagon at the time, the War Department or the the defense secretary will step to the microphone first and say, we have no idea what this is.
00:11:30.160And then they start broadcasting and listen to what happens.
00:11:38.020Now nearer home comes a special bulletin from Trenton, New Jersey.
00:11:42.000It is reported that at 8.50 p.m. a huge flaming object, believed to be a meteorite, fell on a farm in the neighborhood of Grover's Mill, New Jersey, 22 miles from Trenton.
00:11:51.220The flash in the sky was visible within a radius of several hundred miles.
00:11:54.760And the noise of the impact was heard as far north as Elizabeth.
00:11:57.160We have dispatched a special mobile unit to the scene and we'll have our commentator, Carl Phillips, give you a word picture of the scene as soon as he can reach there from Princeton.
00:12:06.100In the meantime, we take you to the Hotel Martinette in Brooklyn, where Bobby Millette and his orchestra are offering a program of dance music.
00:12:12.940So you turn over from the other station and you just hear that news break and you're like, wow, that's weird.
00:12:58.760Now they've parted and the professor moves around one side, studying the object while the captain and two policemen advance with something in their hands.
00:16:14.600So now why is this important today with what's happening over New Jersey in the skies?
00:16:24.800Still, let me, let me just ask you a series of questions here.
00:16:31.860What is that story that has been shocking to you and I for the last five years and shocking because nobody's talking about it and it's pretty big.
00:16:44.900And the government keeps furthering the storyline.
00:16:48.900You're talking about the weird things with UFOs over the past few years.
00:17:25.380And we're trying to build them and retro design, design from what we have and understand, design something using the technology that we found, right?
00:18:38.140I mean, I guess maybe I remember parts, bits, and pieces of this.
00:18:42.860But it's weird, and you made this point before, but you'd think every one of these developments would be the only thing we're talking about.
00:19:32.20025 years ago this was happening, we would have said, that's the United States government doing something, right?
00:19:41.040And that's what I said to you yesterday.
00:19:43.240But then some other things happened last night, and I thought, how could I have gotten on yesterday and said with such a surety, this is nothing.
00:19:56.180Because this isn't Orson Welles, or is it Orson Welles, but not being paid by the media?
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00:20:43.420And Glinda the Good Witch wasn't in a bubble at the time, and I didn't know how to judge them.
00:20:48.560I happened to be working with the 500 best real estate agents at the time, doing some work for them.
00:20:54.880This is according to the Wall Street Journal.
00:20:57.440And I started getting to know them and talking to them, and I realized, oh, wow, there is a reason they're better than others.
00:21:03.380So we look, in my company, realestateagentsitrust.com, for the real estate agents with the best practices, somebody who understands the housing market, somebody who's a team leader, a closer.
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00:21:31.040Before we get back into the drone story, I want to just give you some disturbing things that are happening.
00:21:41.320President Joe Biden is commuting the sentences of 1,500 Americans who were released from prison, placed on house arrest during the pandemic, will be pardoning 39 individuals who were convicted of nonviolent crimes.
00:22:00.300But he's also now pardoning people who are murderers on death row and setting them free.
00:22:11.760Now, that is disturbing until you read this.
00:22:17.400President Joe Biden announced on Thursday, granting 39 pardons, 1,499 commutations in his administration, blah, blah, blah.
00:22:25.040However, as you're looking through, Joe Biden just pardoned multiple Chinese spies, also an individual that was convicted of possessing child pornography.
00:23:27.040His son, who was the one that was actually taking money from the communist government, has been pardoned for everything that he did or may have done.
00:23:54.240Well, as we showed you when we did our investigation on that perfect phone call in a four episode series on what really happened in Ukraine.
00:24:05.040When we did this, I don't know, 2018, we were shocked at what we found.
00:24:11.260What we found was the United States was sending money to NGOs.
00:24:18.800They were doing all over doing all kinds of things and trying to overthrow the government and did of Ukraine.
00:24:27.440And who was one of them besides the Biden's Hillary Clinton.
00:24:32.860Now, isn't it strange that for the first time, Bill Clinton comes out and says, hey, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not wanting my wife to be pardoned.
00:30:08.680jason buttrell is joining me now chief researcher
00:30:13.260he's also former military intelligence
00:30:15.900okay where do you stand on this because yesterday we were kind of in line
00:30:22.260but i i just have a hard time with this
00:30:25.720just on the drones or what about the pardons
00:30:28.000i wanted to interject a couple of different times there
00:30:30.580so yeah okay so um let's start with the pardons and then we'll get back into the drones go ahead
00:30:35.600i your tv show on wednesday almost kind of goes right in line with my thinking on these pardons
00:30:41.920everything is a psyop everything is a deep state psyop
00:30:44.860i don't buy for a second that right after he pardons hunter biden
00:30:50.000and we're expecting other pardons like uh maybe james uh maybe his wife who knows how many others he makes a record setting commutation you know pardon list that dominates the headlines and suddenly we're not talking about why did he pardon hunter going from 2014 to 2024 for crimes that he may have committed or did well uh why is he pardoning uh james
00:31:18.760who else who else is involved what are the connections that we can draw like oh no no now it's just this record-setting commutation
00:31:24.880no i don't buy for a second that you know and we know that these pardons especially presidential pardons
00:31:31.780they're not because the president's like you know what i've been following these you know these cases personally
00:31:36.660no they're being brought to him yes they are
00:31:39.240and the same way that the military industrial complex is handling in my opinion this drone situation
00:31:44.740they're the ones directing that it's not the president of the united states definitely not the
00:31:49.000you know the the guy with the you know the you know the you know the the pudding eater in chief
00:31:54.700right now he doesn't have any freaking clue what's going on right now president barack obama
00:31:58.940or the or exactly right on his third term yeah but i think everything is a psyop and i think that uh
00:32:05.660i think these pardons are going to get more and more interesting we need to stay on top of them
00:32:09.080because they're going to try and misdirect our attention on some of these other things but what
00:32:13.760you really need to be looking at i love the way that you're looking at the china situation these
00:32:16.880chinese pardons because who are they do they have any connections that go back to cefc i don't know i
00:32:21.960haven't looked at them but that's the type of questions we need to be asking cefc is the company that
00:32:26.540that uh the bidens were doing business with um do they have connections with drone technology i don't
00:32:31.700know how do you go out for instance they're also selling the border fence now we have all this stuff
00:32:37.720that's ready to go sitting there at the border been sitting there for five years and we tried to
00:32:44.280sell it once nobody wanted it and so now we're selling it at pennies on the dollar and it's all
00:32:51.520being hauled away yeah now why would you do that i mean i am approaching the the place and i and stew you
00:33:02.540know this i do not use the word treason because it is in the constitution and it means death if you're
00:33:10.120convicted of treason it's very hard to convict somebody of treason etc etc but i'm having a hard
00:33:16.120time with all of these dots that are out there that are just weakening us trying to preserve that
00:33:26.940weakness trying to subvert the will of the next president of the united states on not just some
00:33:34.440things everything everything it it it i'm having a hard time in the last few weeks of this guy
00:33:42.640you just meaning whether you're gonna because the treason part kind of complicates i think you
00:33:51.340question no i know i'm saying i'm not saying that but i am um i am for the first time getting to an
00:33:57.380area where i'm like you know if you can prove all this stuff this was a traitor in chief
00:34:03.260jeez yeah i mean you know he it's hard to even understand if he's president i don't even know you
00:34:10.880know you you point out like i don't does he know what's going on i don't even know how that would
00:34:14.140work honestly in this case because he doesn't seem to be even aware of what's occurring so if
00:34:18.580he's not president then who is the traitor and because it is treasonous to take the powers of
00:34:26.120the president and just be a shadow president whether you're vice president or not that also
00:34:33.320is against the constitution and i it would be nice to you they put on the nice face for the transition
00:34:40.340they invite the trump to lunch right like there's there are all these nice things that they seem like
00:34:45.660they're they're doing we're going to give a they make the speeches about the peaceful transition
00:34:50.420but i mean their actions don't don't line up with that at all you know and i i every everybody we
00:34:59.160should get back to that it's a good it would be a good idea to get back to that and in respect what
00:35:03.040the people actually say when they vote it's interesting these you know these these proponents
00:35:08.380of big government you know like the people that are in power now i think that they're the ones that
00:35:13.820don't they don't agree with a strong executive and a strong executive used to used to be like a bad
00:35:18.160word or a dirty word even the founders agreed with a strong executive go back to any of the federal
00:35:23.260federalist papers when they talk about it they wanted a strong executive they wanted a strong
00:35:27.360legislative and judicial branch they wanted them strong why because they can they have the power to
00:35:31.820push back on each other the current brand of progressivism does not want a strong executive
00:35:36.120they want a committee that's in charge of the executive because it's a hundred years into this
00:35:40.720and they have eviscerated and congress and the senate have given their powers to the executive
00:35:48.060branch yep and the executive branch had to be strong to protect all of those things but now the
00:35:54.920executive branch is so strong the only thing holding it back is the supreme court and so now you want
00:36:04.440all of the people just to run what the plan has been right you don't need the president anymore
00:36:10.880well yeah the the president is not the the executive in this case i mean he's part of it but you're
00:36:16.740mostly looking at his appointed people that are carrying everything out the bureaucracy
00:36:20.480you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
00:36:25.060welcome to the uh glenn beck program so last weekend everybody was in uh well everybody who
00:36:36.460was anybody of course i wasn't there you weren't there nobody i know was there but all of the
00:36:42.160leaders of the world were in france for the reopening of the cathedral of notre dame and it's
00:36:49.240supposed to be marvelous wonderful and uh you know way ahead of schedule etc but i heard at the
00:36:55.680beginning that they were going to make this kind of into a temple of reason again and kind of finish
00:37:01.220what the french revolution started um and they they didn't they restored part of it but there was a big
00:37:09.480argument of do we go modern or do we put the gothic back in and i hate this i absolutely i have no
00:37:18.320problem against i have no problem with modern architecture um but there is you know jefferson
00:37:25.820said if you want your civilization to survive even beyond you you must embed your principles
00:37:34.160in your architecture okay greece we get it because of their architecture a lot of it um the medieval times
00:37:44.160we get it because of the architecture um and and maybe it's time for all of us to go
00:37:51.920modern because so much of it makes no sense that you're like yep well that that's a sign of our times
00:37:57.540um duncan stroik he is an architect and i wanted him on to talk about what what did they do
00:38:06.200to uh notre dame in the end duncan welcome to the program it's great to be here glenn i've
00:38:13.260really enjoyed your recent uh programs especially with this uh great time of emphasis on the nativity
00:38:19.660well thank you very much um so notre dame they the last time that it was that i know of that it was
00:38:29.200really desecrated in and and almost destroyed was during the french revolution and they wanted to make
00:38:34.800it a temple of reason and then i heard they were going to do this again and it was going to be to
00:38:41.080you know the earth and all of this crap did any of that happen and what changes did they make
00:38:47.780to the to the cathedral that's a great point i agree with you um that our great cathedrals
00:38:57.360especially in the gothic period have had three enemies fire vandals and iconoclasts
00:39:06.220and poor notre dame has had all of those uh and the fire was devastating but what makes it even
00:39:15.660more painful is that after the fire did its work that the iconoclasts came in and wanted to vandalize
00:39:23.680and was it i mean because i know there was this big panel put together and everything else
00:39:29.780was there anybody that was really that actually in france believed in god that was on the was on the
00:39:37.800architectural board i think there is but they're not supposed to admit to it there's a wonderful
00:39:45.240there's a wonderful interview um with philippe villeneuve who was the head architect and who
00:39:53.220really fought to restore it the way it was especially the spire the 19th century spire and he gets
00:39:59.600i give him the major credit for the restoration and preventing the vandals and the iconoclasts from
00:40:05.620doing their work but philippe never said anything and i talked to him in person a couple of times
00:40:11.560he never said anything about god or about faith but there's a recent interview with him and he admits
00:40:17.360uh that he has faith that it's that was kept him going during these last six years and also that
00:40:26.000the mother of god helped him immensely in rebuilding this little uh church i can't imagine what it was
00:40:33.920like being a god person rebuilding the most famous cathedral in the world and not be able to say
00:40:42.820hey you know there's some god stuff here in this gothic architecture we may not want to lose
00:40:48.440we may not want to lose exactly what exactly and it's so amazing because macron the the president
00:40:56.380he uh you know originally he wanted to have a competition to redo the outside of it and
00:41:02.160something 21st century something of our time and uh the elites and the architects were you know uh
00:41:10.580excited uh you know greedy little uh animals wanting to eat up this beautiful building and
00:41:17.120fortunately the people of france fought that uh but he did not give up every step of the way he says
00:41:23.620well could we have a competition to redo the stained glass could we have a competition to redo the side
00:41:29.420chapels could we you know everything anything he could do get to get the contemporary in there
00:41:34.060and unfortunately for him not for me but for him the contemporary means the secular so what did
00:41:40.940what is massively different when you go there now i think philip villeneuve got 98 percent of it i mean
00:41:50.460he really succeeded they rebuilt the roof exactly the way it was including with medieval axes they rebuilt
00:41:58.900the spire the way it was in 1860 with uh handmade uh joinery wood joinery uh they redid the lead
00:42:07.340roof um which is very handmade very phenomenal they redid all the stonework the five huge openings in
00:42:14.920the ceiling that had been destroyed um they restored and cleaned some of the side chapels and the paintings
00:42:21.660which just are you know we're kind of dark but now they're beautiful uh so he got 98 percent of it
00:42:27.400uh macron got very little uh the elite art world that doesn't go to church doesn't believe in church
00:42:35.620right you know are very influential they got very little but unfortunately the archbishop of
00:42:41.040was philosophically or at least specifically in league with macron so some of the things that he
00:42:48.500spent money on um are of the contemporary and most people won't even give them a second thought because
00:42:56.000they are so out of you know out of uh touch with the rest of the building uh that's actually good news
00:43:02.800because i thought a lot more had been done that was bad so that this is really good to hear
00:43:06.500you you are great story it really is i'm very thrilled yeah played of these little minor
00:43:12.380interior decorating things that look like they're ephemeral and you can get rid of them next year
00:43:17.400uh it it really is a triumph so you're a professor of architecture at the university of notre dame
00:43:24.020um and i want to ask you um so much of our architecture is just meaningless and i'm not
00:43:33.460i'm not against modern architecture um you know some of it is interesting um uh only because of what
00:43:42.860we can now do um but it's it it doesn't it really even speak to anything you know a century for even a
00:43:51.620century from now i don't think but i was i was reading that there is this new um uh ai driven
00:44:00.500machinery that can now recarve from solid marble in a fraction of a time and not even close to the
00:44:11.260cost you know you could rebuild all of the great statues um and and go back to even a gothic kind of
00:44:20.720architecture um at a fraction of the cost and the time but i you know i kind of think when you see
00:44:28.160david i have to tell you i i went to florence and my wife and i stood in the square i didn't know that
00:44:34.420the one in the square was a fake and we were standing in the square and i went huh well i've seen that
00:44:40.900before uh in all different sizes and it wasn't that impressive and then i went into the museum where
00:44:47.540the original is and i cannot tell you what the difference is but that one is alive the other
00:44:55.040one is not yes what what is the difference and and will you know by by getting rid of handmade things
00:45:05.000don't you think that just changes absolutely everything totally totally and especially when
00:45:11.900it comes to art with sculpture with decoration with figures with floral things the hand is where it's
00:45:19.620at and i do uh we use uh modern technology to cut our marble and our limestone but the thing that gets
00:45:28.140me so excited is to see that guy with his hands actually right cutting into the stone and making a
00:45:33.760necantus leaf no question with sculpture i believe totally with sculpture that it's the key
00:45:39.360uh and so yes the david is a great example because there's a couple of great great copies
00:45:45.260in florence and the one that we're all moved by is the one by that michelangelo guy why is that
00:45:50.760and they look identical yes yes totally and they did they were great they were very good sculptors who
00:45:57.660did it and they were copying it as closely as they could and so uh there's something beautiful about
00:46:02.920the hand i'm with you and and i really want to and and they did that as much as they could at
00:46:07.280notre dame in this new restoration and i think we want to and young people were involved in it that's
00:46:12.900what's also exciting that young people today want to do things with their hands some people do other
00:46:18.640people want to do video games but you know i think there's i think there's a good future for a lot of
00:46:23.160this yeah i i think the more we get into ai there's going to be a a real problem of dislocation of
00:46:30.820people and artists and everything else that we're going to have to figure out soon but once we get
00:46:37.820past that it's it's kind of like um uh it's kind it's kind of like when the clothing went to machine
00:46:45.980made at first everybody wanted it made by machine now if it's handmade holy cow is it different you
00:46:53.700know even from i was just talking to somebody about you know everybody buys ripped jeans now
00:46:58.300we were embarrassed when i was a kid because our moms would patch them now you'll pay 150 extra if
00:47:05.160they're patched by a machine but we're trying to buy that authenticity that yeah i wore these out
00:47:11.820even though we didn't you know what i mean yes yes and one of the things that really amazed me was
00:47:18.780at the roof of notre dame which took about 1500 trees some 80 feet tall that they had to to use from
00:47:27.300the old state forests for the for the great buildings to make this roof 100 and 1500 trees
00:47:33.540and most of them were cut by hand using axes 1500 trees they had 60 men working for three or four
00:47:42.060years cutting these trees and then forming them into square timbers and then joining them with
00:47:47.260dovetails and mortise and tenons and it was all handmade how did they get this done i mean the national
00:47:53.000cathedral in washington dc took forever how did they do this so fast well i think i think it was
00:48:00.880national pride and it shows you that the french still have it in them to restore but i also believe
00:48:07.360build things of that quality of the middle ages they still have it they have the people that love it
00:48:12.240and even though the elites and the leadership you know the political leadership don't think it's valid
00:48:17.760but the regular people and the craftsmen they know this was a high point this is this is a golden age
00:48:24.660and that we could do it again today so i'm very excited about the french i want to export the french
00:48:30.100um these master craftsmen to other countries especially the u.s where we can afford it and get
00:48:36.060them to train us and lead us to do this in america on a smaller scale or whatever but i think i think we want
00:48:43.460to do that duncan thank you if you're ever in dallas please let me know i'd love to have lunch with you
00:48:47.780sometime you're fascinating thank you so much thank you for what you do ben thank you for speaking up
00:48:53.860you got it uh duncan stroik he is an architect and uh the professor of architecture at the university of