The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Eric Trump ｜ 10⧸1⧸25

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00:00:32.480 First of all, the government shutdown.

00:00:33.920 Uh, oh my gosh, planes are going to fall out of the skies.

00:00:36.420 It's so horrific.

00:00:37.880 Planes will fall out of the sky.

00:00:39.380 No, they're not going to.

00:00:40.360 In fact, good things might happen on this government shutdown.

00:00:42.420 We talked about that.

00:00:43.100 Also, Eric Trump spends about 45 minutes with us today in the podcast.

00:00:47.540 You'll get the highlights here.

00:00:49.060 Um, we talked to him about his, uh, his new book, uh, that is out.

00:00:53.420 And it's, it's all about the persecution of the Trump family.

00:00:56.940 It's an amazing story.

00:00:58.220 Let's talk to him about that.

00:00:59.380 And probably some of the best, I mean, miracles are happening.

00:01:04.840 Miracles are happening.

00:01:06.420 And I want to share a couple of them, uh, that you'll hear highlighted here in today's podcast.

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00:03:27.240 I want to tell you about Lisa Louise.

00:03:31.220 Lisa Louise is the daughter of Craig Hayden.

00:03:34.740 Craig Hayden is one of the men that was killed on Sunday at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Michigan.

00:03:47.100 She wrote a letter that I read this morning that is absolutely incredible.

00:03:55.760 Before I give you that, I want to tell you what this LDS community has done for the Shooter's family.

00:04:08.680 I saw this tweet yesterday.

00:04:13.880 This morning, with our burned-down church still smoldering and four saints murdered, maybe more,

00:04:20.480 members of the Church of Jesus Christ raised $60,000 for the Shooter's wife and children.

00:04:29.800 Most donations are anonymous.

00:04:31.320 So, I started reading the notes in this.

00:04:39.220 In this world, you shall have tribulations, but be of good cheer.

00:04:42.820 I have overcome the world.

00:04:45.480 I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

00:04:48.100 I pray that everyone gets the care that they need, your son,

00:04:54.340 and that his whole family feel the pure love of Christ.

00:04:59.000 Another giver.

00:04:59.760 Anonymous, may we spread peace, not more division.

00:05:04.380 Be willing to bear one another's burdens, and pray that they may be light.

00:05:08.800 Be willing to mourn with those who mourn.

00:05:10.840 Yea, comfort those who stand in need of comfort.

00:05:13.660 Another $10.

00:05:15.660 Mourning with those who mourn, regardless of cause.

00:05:19.820 Sending my love from your...

00:05:21.500 This is to the Shooter's wife. 0.54

00:05:26.040 Sending my love from your LDS family.

00:05:28.800 I'm sorry for your loss.

00:05:31.020 I believe your husband will find peace and healing in Jesus' embrace.

00:05:34.900 I hope this small contribution helps you in some way.

00:05:38.320 Another one.

00:05:38.820 My prayers are with your family.

00:05:40.160 I know Jesus Christ loves all of his children and expects us to help each other.

00:05:43.980 May he send his spirit to be with you, to provide peace and comfort during this difficult time.

00:05:57.460 Another giver.

00:05:58.700 In Christ we find healing.

00:06:01.360 Blessed are the peacemakers.

00:06:02.960 They shall be called children of God.

00:06:04.960 Matthew.

00:06:05.360 Praying that you find healing and peace.

00:06:10.840 I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and I hope you find peace during this time.

00:06:16.360 I am certain that my small donation cannot make up for your pain and loss.

00:06:20.780 But I pray you may find it in the days ahead.

00:06:26.260 Many are asking why and not sure that we will ever fully know the answer.

00:06:32.040 But in the mix I know this.

00:06:33.820 In Christ we can and are made whole.

00:06:36.860 He knows you perfectly.

00:06:38.100 I want to do my part and forgive and help those in need, and I am certain your family needs help,

00:06:45.560 and I support my fellow brothers and sisters for donating, even when this is hard.

00:06:51.660 We deeply know what it is to be hated while just trying to do good.

00:06:57.100 Our church and community will not do that to you, Sister Sanford.

00:07:02.360 Lord, we pray for you and welcome you with open arms, just like Jesus taught us.

00:07:21.760 $20 comes from an anonymous giver.

00:07:24.420 This is the way.

00:07:25.600 God is good.

00:07:26.340 $25 comes in from another anonymous giver.

00:07:33.240 We know families have hidden pains and sorrows.

00:07:35.580 We are sorry.

00:07:37.200 There is no way to help before this tragedy.

00:07:41.720 God, not time, heals all wounds.

00:07:46.580 Love is spoken here.

00:07:48.180 So you are now seeing one of my favorite stories in modern history of forgiveness, the Amish.

00:08:04.620 They went to heal a family as they were still pulling the bodies of their children out of a school.

00:08:12.560 They went to heal the family of the shooter, stood with his mother.

00:08:18.180 He loved his mother, helped rebuild her house, and said, you can't leave our community.

00:08:24.560 You can't leave our community.

00:08:26.060 You're part of our community, and we love you.

00:08:28.480 And I have always admired the Amish so much for their understanding of forgiveness.

00:08:35.260 And I am so proud to see that it is happening now somewhere else, this time in Michigan.

00:08:42.520 So that's one miracle that I saw, and that is a miracle.

00:08:50.460 To forgive when you naturally want to hate is a miracle.

00:08:58.460 Now, let me tell you this miracle.

00:09:06.400 This was written by the daughter, Lisa Louise, of Craig Hayden.

00:09:12.720 She is, she writes this letter right after the thick of all of it, and she writes this after she's been interviewed by the FBI.

00:09:25.140 And she tells a story about how she was kneeling over her father's body.

00:09:30.660 The gunman, Thomas Jacob Sanford, has just killed her father.

00:09:38.020 And he comes into the church, and he's just asking, you believe in Jesus Christ or Joseph Smith?

00:09:47.420 And if he didn't like your answer, you didn't answer fast enough, he shot you.

00:09:52.520 He shoots her father. 0.99

00:09:55.320 He goes down. 0.98

00:09:56.940 He's dead now.

00:10:01.900 He then looks at her, points the gun at her, and asks the question.

00:10:09.300 I want you to listen to the letter, and this is what she testified to the FBI on.

00:10:15.340 I want you to listen to this.

00:10:16.280 I know many of you don't want to hear this, but when I gave a description of Thomas to the FBI, I told them that he had blue eyes, blue eyes, brightened by tears, red and teary.

00:10:35.300 All I saw as I searched my memory was his blue eyes.

00:10:39.780 When he came over to me, I felt very calm, very peaceful, even as I kneeled over my father.

00:10:50.580 My hands were still on my father.

00:11:00.960 As the gunman approached me, it felt like a long time.

00:11:06.940 I stared into his eyes.

00:11:09.780 While I answered his question, the only way I can describe what I saw was I saw into his soul.

00:11:24.200 I never took my eyes off of his eyes, and something happened.

00:11:30.300 I saw pain.

00:11:32.980 I felt how lost he was.

00:11:35.280 I deeply felt it with every fiber of my being.

00:11:41.380 I forgave him, because I could see his pain.

00:11:44.800 I forgave him right there, not in words, but with my heart.

00:11:50.840 Later, I kept asking to see a picture of him.

00:11:54.200 Something about his blue eyes caused me confusion.

00:11:57.280 I questioned if I was remembering what I actually saw correctly.

00:12:03.500 When I finally saw his picture, his eyes were not blue.

00:12:09.520 I couldn't understand.

00:12:12.240 I know what I saw.

00:12:14.020 It was seared into my brain.

00:12:15.880 In the middle of the night, while I was texting my sister, I realized it was my eyes I saw.

00:12:36.460 I saw into his soul, and he saw into mine.

00:12:44.220 He let me live.

00:12:45.720 I'm sharing this now, because I believe it's just one of the many reasons I was there.

00:12:53.860 Just one of the reasons.

00:12:56.740 And one of the reasons I needed to share this for Papa, for Dad.

00:13:01.060 But also for anyone who could set aside hate.

00:13:06.940 Maybe that time won't be now for you.

00:13:09.400 Maybe it will be one day.

00:13:11.720 What we say and what we do matters.

00:13:16.520 Quoting Yoda, fear breeds anger.

00:13:20.000 Anger breeds hate.

00:13:21.080 Hatred breeds suffering.

00:13:23.640 If we can stop the hate, we can stop the suffering.

00:13:28.380 But stopping the hate takes all of us.

00:13:32.100 I promise you, if just for one month you can stop using crude language, if you can stop.

00:13:37.980 If you can stop taking the Lord's name in vain, you will feel a change.

00:13:51.960 If you can stop letting anger in, hate cannot spread.

00:14:00.000 And we can stop it.

00:14:01.820 We can stop the anger and the hate and stop the suffering.

00:14:05.680 Somewhere.

00:14:06.880 For someone.

00:14:07.460 I had a talk show host that I think you love call me last week.

00:14:20.580 And I said, Glenn, I don't know how to deal with all of this.

00:14:25.420 Because, you know, we've always said we're on the front lines.

00:14:29.840 But we didn't mean on the front lines.

00:14:31.500 And now we're on the front lines.

00:14:32.880 And I realize every time I go to do something and I say goodbye to my children, I might be saying goodbye to my children for the last time.

00:14:42.100 And I didn't realize that until now.

00:14:47.880 And I don't know how to deal with it.

00:14:49.340 Right now you're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

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00:16:35.200 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:16:38.440 Let me go to Eric Trump now.

00:16:40.100 Hello, Eric.

00:16:40.600 How are you?

00:16:42.080 Glenn, it's great to be on.

00:16:43.580 It's great to have you.

00:16:44.560 Great to have you.

00:16:46.340 You know, your book, what your family has gone through,

00:16:51.780 is just the radically souped-up version of what I think a lot of people feel they have gone through in their life. 0.52

00:17:01.120 But, man, they have tried to kill you guys. 0.77

00:17:04.280 They have tried to put you in jail. 0.98

00:17:06.620 They've tried to destroy you every single step of the way.

00:17:10.520 Tell me about the motivation for putting that all down on paper.

00:17:15.740 Yeah, Glenn, I think that's right.

00:17:16.880 It went to Amazon number one almost instantly under siege, and it's been incredible.

00:17:21.020 But I came up with the—you're right.

00:17:22.380 I mean, I was a guy who didn't have any constitutional protections.

00:17:25.040 I wasn't in government.

00:17:25.880 So guess who they came after?

00:17:26.840 They came after me.

00:17:27.560 I was the most subpoenaed person in American history, all because I ran the Trump Organization,

00:17:31.500 which was effectively what my father spent his entire life doing.

00:17:34.560 And they wanted to see us taken down.

00:17:36.020 They wanted to see us destroyed.

00:17:37.320 I mean, look what they did, right?

00:17:38.840 It was between two impeachments.

00:17:40.680 They raided our home.

00:17:41.920 They silenced us.

00:17:42.860 They gag-ordered us.

00:17:44.020 There's more gag orders than I can possibly count.

00:17:46.300 They took us off of Twitter.

00:17:47.380 They took us off of Facebook.

00:17:48.480 They took us off of Instagram.

00:17:50.660 You know, they made up the phony dossier that was paid for by Hillary Clinton. 0.77

00:17:54.880 They made up Russiagate.

00:17:55.980 Glenn, I was the guy who was getting the call from the FBI saying, you know, Eric, I hear

00:17:59.960 you have secret servers communicating with the Kremlin in the basement of Trump Tower.

00:18:03.780 I mean, give me a break.

00:18:05.900 They tried to take out our Supreme Court justices.

00:18:08.740 I mean, they did everything.

00:18:10.400 They weaponized the media.

00:18:11.780 They weaponized the DOJ.

00:18:13.140 They weaponized the FBI.

00:18:14.820 They charged my father 91 times, 91 criminal counts.

00:18:19.220 They fined the Trump Organization almost $600 million for not doing a damn thing wrong.

00:18:25.580 And all of this stuff has been overturned.

00:18:27.400 But they wanted to see us non-existent.

00:18:30.100 They wanted to see our family broken.

00:18:31.900 They wanted to see, you know, my father in jail.

00:18:34.020 They probably wanted to see me in jail.

00:18:36.380 You know, and then I said on Sean Hannity one night, Sean, you know, they've done all

00:18:39.400 of this to us.

00:18:39.920 They put us under siege. 0.99

00:18:40.780 I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to kill my father.

00:18:42.660 And then you saw what happened at Butler.

00:18:44.020 And then you saw what happened, you know, eight weeks later at Trump International in

00:18:47.280 West Palm.

00:18:48.400 You saw what just happened to Charlie.

00:18:50.220 I mean, I published this book literally three days before Charlie Kirk's assassination.

00:18:55.560 I mean, you want to talk about another time they tried to put our movement under siege.

00:18:59.540 They've done it to you.

00:19:00.500 They've done it to every single one of your listeners.

00:19:02.500 They've debanked us.

00:19:03.400 They've deplatformed us.

00:19:05.020 And the story had to be told from a first person perspective who effectively dealt with

00:19:09.940 all of it.

00:19:10.420 And the greatest part of the whole story is we won.

00:19:12.920 We won and we're saving the country right now.

00:19:15.640 So, so Eric, how do you deal with, I just had a conversation with somebody I think is

00:19:21.620 really, really smart, doesn't agree with me politically, but very well educated, very

00:19:26.660 smart and a reasonable person.

00:19:29.180 And he immediately brought up the weaponization of our government with the DOJ and James Comey.

00:19:35.380 And I said, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, blood is shooting out of my eyes right now.

00:19:40.640 Hang on the weaponization of our government with the DOJ and James Comey.

00:19:44.840 And I had to explain to him that your dad didn't say you're fired.

00:19:49.340 If you don't go get him, your father said, make a decision, make a decision.

00:19:53.460 You're don't let the statute of limitations go out.

00:19:55.860 And it went through a grand jury process.

00:19:59.780 Two out of the three charges were valid.

00:20:02.060 And so you prosecute.

00:20:05.360 That's different than what you guys, can you compare James Comey and what's happening there

00:20:10.520 to what was done with you guys?

00:20:14.360 Well, I'll give you a little insight baseball.

00:20:15.680 So I was the guy that got the call when they were raiding Mar-a-Lago, right?

00:20:18.000 Obviously I run, I run all our commercial properties and our entire portfolio, everything

00:20:21.880 in the Trump organization.

00:20:23.480 So I get a call from one of my team members.

00:20:25.100 The FBI is here with a search warrant.

00:20:27.680 And I go, excuse me, what do you mean?

00:20:29.200 We have like the greatest relationship with all law enforcement.

00:20:31.240 We love law enforcement.

00:20:32.580 No, they're coming in.

00:20:33.660 They have a search warrant to raid Mar-a-Lago right now.

00:20:35.980 And I go, you must be kidding me.

00:20:37.700 And I go, why?

00:20:39.880 Well, they're saying that the National Archives, you know, asked the FBI to raid Mar-a-Lago.

00:20:44.220 I go, you mean, look, at the glorified public library, you know,

00:20:47.020 you have 30 FBI agents there with machine guns because NARA, you know, asked for the raid.

00:20:53.240 I went on Fox News that night.

00:20:54.960 I think it was Jesse Waters or somebody.

00:20:56.280 I went on Fox News that night.

00:20:57.280 I go, give me a break.

00:20:58.180 Like, I wasn't born yesterday.

00:20:59.440 Like, you don't raid Mar-a-Lago, the former president's home,

00:21:03.320 and very likely the future president again, because my father was doing great.

00:21:07.280 You don't raid that home based on the National Archives.

00:21:10.600 Like, you better believe Biden was behind this.

00:21:12.820 And sure enough, you know, 18 months later, it comes out that Biden was behind it.

00:21:15.920 Merrick Garland was 100% behind it, and they were the ones that authorized it.

00:21:19.700 And the weaponization is unlike anything I'd ever seen.

00:21:22.640 I mean, Glenn, we were a family that's never gotten so much as a speeding ticket ever in our lives,

00:21:26.980 and we lived a pretty fast life in terms of business and life until my father decided

00:21:32.160 that he was looking to run again in 2024, in which case they indicted him 34 times

00:21:38.200 for a $130,000 payment that he didn't even make.

00:21:41.040 Like, I mean, people who were sitting in the courtrooms couldn't even possibly believe it.

00:21:45.600 Again, we've had every single one of them overturned.

00:21:48.100 But when I hear them talking about James Comey, who clearly, I mean, it very much looked like to me,

00:21:53.880 lied to, you know, to Ted Cruz in that congressional, you know, testimony that day.

00:21:59.220 I mean, give me a break.

00:22:00.600 I mean, these guys, I probably spent $400 million defending ourselves from hoaxes.

00:22:06.240 I mean, the Russia hoax, we had disproved to the FBI day one.

00:22:09.800 We didn't have secret servers.

00:22:11.260 There are no servers in the basement of Trump Tower because basements flood.

00:22:14.820 You don't put, you know, like computers 101, you don't put servers in basements, right?

00:22:19.700 You know, we didn't know anybody in Russia.

00:22:21.540 They knew this, and they let this sham get perpetrated for three years so that one greedy woman could possibly get, 1.00

00:22:26.800 you know, two more votes. 0.98

00:22:28.460 And then when she lost in an embarrassing fashion to people who didn't know what a damn delegate was, 1.00

00:22:33.320 i.e. our family, because we'd never been in politics before, you know, 0.95

00:22:36.960 they needed some way to justify her embarrassing performance.

00:22:40.600 They took your father off the ballot in Maine.

00:22:46.720 They tried to take him off in Colorado.

00:22:50.940 That, to me, is the weaponization of the political system.

00:22:56.400 By going after you guys for the servers, by changing documents, literally FBI changing documents

00:23:04.100 to go after people in your organization on the Russiagate stuff,

00:23:09.960 changing the documents for a FISA court, that's true weaponization.

00:23:18.140 Is there a chance that the Comey thing is going to bleed into a larger prosecution?

00:23:26.720 Because I've been watching this.

00:23:29.040 Eric, I've been watching this from the beginning.

00:23:30.760 I was watching this when I was not for your father being president in 2016,

00:23:35.260 saying, wait a minute, this isn't right.

00:23:38.280 What is this?

00:23:39.320 This isn't right.

00:23:41.440 It is so clear that this now was, I mean, the evidence is all there,

00:23:47.700 that this was a plan from the beginning that is, quite honestly, I believe, still going on.

00:23:56.100 Is there a chance?

00:23:57.100 Do you know if the grand conspiracy thing is going to happen?

00:24:01.760 Well, listen, I hope it does, right?

00:24:04.160 I'm not in government, but it's the entire thesis of the book.

00:24:07.440 I dealt with this more than anybody in the country for a 10-year period of time.

00:24:11.060 They wanted us gone.

00:24:12.400 I mean, Glenn, they were planting documents in Mar-a-Lago in my father's office.

00:24:16.480 They were planting top-secret folders on the carpet of my father's office.

00:24:21.100 They admitted that to Judge Cannon that they literally brought in top-secret folders and they staged photo shoots on my father's office floor.

00:24:30.920 The whole thing was contrived.

00:24:32.500 The whole thing was a setup.

00:24:33.740 The Russia thing was a scam. 0.87

00:24:35.100 The dirty dossier that said that my father was doing horrible things, the most unthinkable things, you know, it was a sham.

00:24:43.140 The impeachment number one was a sham.

00:24:44.900 The impeachment number two was a sham.

00:24:46.280 To have seven judges in Colorado just delete my father's name from a ballot was a sham.

00:24:52.380 The fact that, you know, again, a guy who works very hard, has never crossed any line in his life, became the most opinion person in American history, me, it was a sham.

00:25:01.780 I mean, you know, I didn't have a laptop from hell.

00:25:04.600 I wasn't Hunter Biden.

00:25:05.640 I wasn't doing illicit drugs.

00:25:07.120 I wasn't, you know, partaking in prostitution.

00:25:09.280 I didn't have racy photos all over my, you know, and I sure as hell wasn't doing illegal business deals all over the world with every shady country, as he very much seemed to be doing.

00:25:19.380 And yet they came after us relentlessly.

00:25:21.860 So do I think that that criminality has to be paid for in some way?

00:25:26.240 I do.

00:25:26.860 And I just, I find it so ironic when you see Chuck Schumer up there and Jake Tapper, I'm not sure if you saw him the other day, you know, this is the weaponization of the government at its finest.

00:25:37.020 Give me a break.

00:25:38.280 I've taken more arrows than anybody could possibly take and still be standing.

00:25:42.940 And my father, he's taken unlimited arrows, all in defense of this nation that we love.

00:25:48.340 And, you know, it's, I mean, it's true irony and it's true projection.

00:25:53.240 Let me, let me take 10 seconds for a station ID.

00:25:57.160 And then I want to talk to you about, has there ever been a time when you guys have said, I, I, it's enough back in 10 seconds.

00:26:05.620 So I don't know.

00:26:20.600 I mean, I am amazed at your family.

00:26:23.040 I'm amazed at your father.

00:26:25.100 Um, the things that you guys have put up with the things that you have come through.

00:26:30.280 And at some point, did anyone in the family say, dad, please, I mean, we want grandpa to be around.

00:26:41.800 Stop, please.

00:26:43.140 Did that ever happen?

00:26:45.660 You know what?

00:26:46.520 It's, it's kind of funny.

00:26:47.280 I think that's exactly what they thought was going to happen.

00:26:49.080 I think they thought that they could take, you know, this kind of New York billionaire and make his life so uncomfortable that you'd want to go back to Palm Beach, Florida, play golf, hang out with his grandkids, fly around on Trump force one.

00:26:58.860 And, you know, live a Mar-a-Lago, live a great life.

00:27:01.200 Right.

00:27:01.460 And, and, and there's no question that was their calculus.

00:27:03.680 You know, how do we, how do we make fun of him?

00:27:06.020 How do we silence him?

00:27:07.080 How do we bankrupt him?

00:27:08.160 How do we go after his family?

00:27:09.540 How do we raid his home?

00:27:10.680 How do we indict him?

00:27:12.100 Right.

00:27:12.400 You know, how, how do we break up his business?

00:27:14.480 How do we strip the Trump name off of every building in New York city?

00:27:17.560 I mean, those are all the things that I dealt with.

00:27:19.240 And, you know, I, I think they, they wholly misunderstood him.

00:27:22.220 And, you know, maybe it's like a masochistic type quality, but like the harder they hit him and the harder they hit us, the more resilient we were.

00:27:32.000 I was in those courtrooms, Len, with my father every single day when they turned around in New York and read off 34 felony bogus felony counts.

00:27:39.500 And, you know, with, with a corrupt judge.

00:27:40.980 And, you know, you know, a lot about that trial.

00:27:43.400 My father stood around, you know, turned around, you know, shook my hand.

00:27:46.580 And we left the courthouse, we did a press conference and I was speaking on the front stairs of those, those, you know, that courthouse every single day to the press.

00:27:53.680 Remember, my father was gagged.

00:27:55.460 And then we went down and we did a big fundraiser.

00:27:57.540 I mean, we literally left a courthouse after being, having 34 felony indictments and went to a political fundraiser.

00:28:03.220 I mean, the man never stopped.

00:28:04.820 He was the energizer bunny in a, in a red tie wearing a suit on steroids.

00:28:08.780 And the harder they hit him, the harder he worked, the harder he fought back.

00:28:13.160 But, but beyond that, I think the more than American people realized this whole thing was a sham. 0.54

00:28:16.940 I mean, there's only so many times you can cry wolf before everybody realizes it's nonsense.

00:28:21.300 And they cried wolf of Russia and everybody saw that.

00:28:23.520 And they cried wolf with the impeachments and everybody saw that.

00:28:25.880 And people fundamentally started distrusting the mainstream media in this country.

00:28:29.100 And independent voices like yours all of a sudden became the most powerful, you know, we've ever seen in the nation's history.

00:28:36.240 And, you know, and all of a sudden this whole thing turned around where people started realizing, hey, the harder they hit this guy, the more I like him.

00:28:43.160 Because this is the system.

00:28:44.400 This is the corruption at work.

00:28:46.420 And, and listen, obviously it worked because my father won the popular vote.

00:28:50.660 He won every single swing state.

00:28:52.760 You know, he won 11 counties in California that had never been run by a Republican.

00:28:56.680 In 37 years, no Republicans won Miami-Dade County.

00:28:59.940 We won it by 11 points.

00:29:01.200 And every single state in the country, all 50 states, tacked way right.

00:29:06.180 You know, and so clearly their games didn't work, but that's what they wanted.

00:29:09.320 They wanted to make his life so damn uncomfortable that he would bow out of the race and say, you know what, let's just go live my glory years at Mar-a-Lago living, you know, living out the American dream as an ex-president.

00:29:20.920 And they wholly underestimated the man.

00:29:22.440 But you, the whole family was like that.

00:29:28.540 I mean, everybody in the family, I mean, I don't say this is, I mean, you guys are amazing.

00:29:33.260 Even if you would have said, dad, stop it, please.

00:29:36.360 Not for us, for you.

00:29:37.440 Stop it.

00:29:38.200 It's not a sign of weakness.

00:29:39.620 I just, I'm amazed that no one in the family ever just sat down and said, dad.

00:29:47.920 Glenn, at that point, I think we were up to our eyeballs, meaning, you know, they had us in every, you know, I had, I had a hundred depositions.

00:29:55.260 I had a hundred sabinas on my desk.

00:29:57.160 They were, they were raiding our homes.

00:29:58.860 They were, they were trying everything they possibly could to take us out, to bankrupt us.

00:30:04.000 You had Letitia James in, in New York, you know, the corruption that was that case that I just had overturned five to zero, you know, by the appellate courts in New York.

00:30:11.900 This is an absolute sham with a sham judge.

00:30:13.720 You had the Alvin Bragg nonsense.

00:30:15.080 You had the Fannie Willis nonsense with her boyfriend in, in Georgia. 0.93

00:30:18.740 You had the Jack Smith as he plants documents at Mar-a-Lago and ransacks Melania's closet in Baron's room.

00:30:24.860 And, you know, in our, our home, you know, at this point we were, we were neck deep in it.

00:30:30.380 I mean, we had no other choice.

00:30:31.540 I mean, if we would have given up then, you know, we would have been dead.

00:30:34.820 They would have taken us out.

00:30:35.780 And, and there was one point I talked about in the book where my father looks at me coming out of that courtroom and he says, you know, honey, I don't know how, but we're going to win.

00:30:43.740 And I said, listen, we either win or we're all going to be in jail because that's exactly what these corrupt people will do to us.

00:30:48.960 And then again, it's a great irony that I find in, you know, the, the way the, you know, the Democrats are treating the Comey indictment this week.

00:30:56.080 It's a, they would have put us all in jail and had us wrought there for eternity.

00:31:00.020 You know, had we, had we not had pulled it off, that was their exact intent.

00:31:04.680 And, and, and they had weaponized the entire system in order to make that happen.

00:31:09.280 So my wife and I just, um, uh, we just moved to Florida and we live, you know, near the Trump national golf course.

00:31:16.880 And we were driving by and I thought everything this family has done, everything, this brand has gone through.

00:31:25.440 Um, I think it's a more powerful brand now than, than ever before.

00:31:31.260 And part of it is the way you guys have dealt with the, uh, you know, just weathered every storm.

00:31:37.860 But, but also I think your dad, I've had a lot of respect for your dad as a builder.

00:31:41.660 And, uh, you know, I watched him build buildings in New York and, and honestly, Eric, I really thought, cause he could build things twice as fast as anybody else in New York.

00:31:50.720 And I'm like, how does this guy not have mob connections?

00:31:53.300 How do you do business without the mob and nothing clean, clean, clean, clean.

00:31:59.040 So I don't know how he does what he does.

00:32:01.440 He's just a machine.

00:32:03.200 Um, but I feel like everything he has done in a strange, uh, in a strange, uh, change of topic here.

00:32:11.960 I think he found the golf course, uh, and the golf, uh, resorts are like that's, I think he's,

00:32:21.620 I think he's the best at that in the world now.

00:32:25.800 Yeah.

00:32:27.000 Well, well, well, thank you, by the way.

00:32:28.480 And, and, and that's almost a great compliment to me because I've, I've done every single one of them with him.

00:32:31.840 And, you know, I bought most of those properties and, and developed every single one around the world.

00:32:36.180 And we're, we're really good at it.

00:32:37.640 And, you know, it's, it's really funny when I, you know, when, when he's talking about Gaza the other day and he goes, you know, the, the, the potential for this place, the, what I could make this into would be so incredible.

00:32:47.040 And then the Democrats come out, Oh, ha ha.

00:32:48.700 What do you know about building?

00:32:49.680 Right.

00:32:49.880 It's like, it's like when AOC came after Elon Musk, you know, Oh, ha ha.

00:32:54.340 Elon Musk, like the least qualified person to run the FAA.

00:32:57.900 I'm sitting there saying this guy is catching rockets with chopsticks.

00:33:00.780 Like you might not want to, you know, belittle him.

00:33:03.320 He's, he's got, you know, about 4,000 times the IQ of you, AOC, but, you know, and they're trying to do the same thing to my father. 0.98

00:33:09.580 I mean, there's no one that there's no one that's a better builder.

00:33:11.440 And I had his genetics.

00:33:12.380 I mean, he'll, he'll tell you that the two of us are like two peas in a pot with that.

00:33:15.740 That's what I do.

00:33:16.280 And by the way, Glenn, I got the library approved yesterday.

00:33:19.520 It's going to be in Miami, Florida, and it's, it's spectacular.

00:33:22.500 So we just got the greatest site in Florida and I'm going to be building that.

00:33:25.900 And I promise you, it's not going to look like the Barack Hussein Obama presidential library in Chicago.

00:33:30.720 That looks like a jailhouse.

00:33:31.920 They're literally going around neighborhoods in Chicago.

00:33:33.880 They're like, what does that building look like?

00:33:35.100 And everybody's like, man, it looks like a, it looks like a jail.

00:33:37.760 It's going to be a spectacular building.

00:33:39.120 But now I think my father will now, 10 years ago, I would have said that what he would have wanted on his tombstone was the greatest developer, the greatest builder.

00:33:48.160 You know, I think today it's, it's a man who literally not only inspired a nation, but opened the eyes of the entire nation to how we were getting ripped off.

00:33:55.680 Um, so the flaws of government and how much better we could be running this country, which he's doing right now.

00:34:02.580 Well, I've never seen anything like it.

00:34:04.840 Um, you know, when he said, Hey, I'm going to be the greatest president.

00:34:08.320 I thought, well, that's, that's, you know, I'm a, I'm a historian.

00:34:11.000 I know history.

00:34:11.820 That's a pretty high standard.

00:34:13.380 I, I told him myself, I think you are, I think you're in the Abraham Lincoln.

00:34:17.420 You keep going.

00:34:18.380 You're in the Abraham Lincoln, George Washington kind of territory.

00:34:22.160 Uh, and it may take a hundred years for people to realize that.

00:34:25.680 Um, but, uh, I've, I've never seen anything like it.

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00:34:36.880 Well, the government is shut down.

00:34:38.940 Boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.

00:34:40.420 I'm really.

00:34:43.840 And somebody call me at home last night.

00:34:46.160 What a rat about somebody called from the family and said, is it safe to fly tomorrow?

00:34:53.360 And I'm like, what, why, what are you hearing? 0.75

00:34:59.520 Government shutting down.

00:35:01.500 Planes going to fall out of the sky.

00:35:02.720 No, they're not going to fall out of the sky.

00:35:04.600 Well, let me just say that I, today, I'm not sure I would, I would try to be someplace

00:35:10.220 that's not under the sky.

00:35:12.620 Let's just say that just to be safe, be someplace not under the sky because the planes are going

00:35:18.580 to be falling.

00:35:19.060 And when I say the planes are going to fall out of the sky, I mean, more than Boeing planes

00:35:23.360 are going to be falling out of the sky today because it's going to be chaos, complete chaos.

00:35:28.480 Uh, the government is just, and by the way, you'll probably, you should start taking Mandarin

00:35:34.760 because the Chinese are going to invade because the army is on furlough now because of these 1.00

00:35:41.440 damn Republicans. 1.00

00:35:42.440 Oh, wait, no, hang on just to say is the Democrats, the Democrats who are being so unbelievably 1.00

00:35:48.540 irresponsible. 0.93

00:35:50.040 You know what they always say when the Republicans do this, they're so irresponsible.

00:35:54.040 And you're like, wait a minute.

00:35:55.100 No, uh, this time they're being very, very irresponsible.

00:35:58.960 The Democrats are, um, because the Republicans just would not allow healthcare to be extended

00:36:06.840 to all illegal aliens.

00:36:09.240 I heard, I actually heard somebody on CNN yesterday say all people have a right to healthcare.

00:36:19.780 No, I mean, you mean American citizens?

00:36:22.560 No, all people.

00:36:23.740 So illegals, all people of earth should be able to have universal healthcare.

00:36:29.560 Oh, okay.

00:36:30.460 Well, why don't we just start writing that check for, for the Chinese too?

00:36:34.620 You know, the, the poor Greeks, man, they really have Cuba. 0.99

00:36:39.740 They're having a hard time with their healthcare system.

00:36:42.500 There are a lot of places collapsing.

00:36:44.380 We should just write the check for everybody on earth for their healthcare.

00:36:48.440 How does that even make sense?

00:36:50.840 Now, the Democrats are in a really precarious situation, um, because they had to acquiesce to

00:36:59.360 the extreme left because their base wants to fight.

00:37:03.200 And I think literally fight, uh, but, uh, at least in this particular case, it means you

00:37:09.560 can't, you have to, you have to walk out on a deal.

00:37:11.920 You cannot accept it unless you have universal healthcare.

00:37:15.200 And so they said, uh, now Republicans, what a surprise.

00:37:20.200 No, not going to do it.

00:37:21.840 Actually, it is kind of a surprise.

00:37:23.240 Wouldn't you say, Stu, it is kind of a surprise that they're not saying yes to even more

00:37:28.480 spending, uh, yes.

00:37:30.180 And we can't rule it out quite yet, but it's the fact that they didn't immediately before

00:37:34.640 the shutdown, even just agree to whatever they wanted to spend.

00:37:37.220 It's nice.

00:37:37.820 Correct.

00:37:38.300 Correct.

00:37:38.880 So I, I, if I may make a prediction and see where I'm wrong on this, my prediction of

00:37:44.500 how this thing is going to work is we're going to shut down, uh, because the Republicans

00:37:48.840 didn't want to spend more money and the Democrats wanted to spend a trillion dollars more. 0.73

00:37:53.560 And, uh, so what will happen is we'll shut down, but we'll spend more money, uh, and

00:38:00.460 we'll end up paying for it.

00:38:01.720 And then they'll just sign another continuing resolution and nothing will really will be

00:38:06.600 done.

00:38:08.620 That's a little pessimistic there, Glenn.

00:38:10.700 I think you have a little more optimism here.

00:38:12.960 It only comes from 60 years of watching our government.

00:38:15.980 Yes.

00:38:16.460 Although I do think things are a little bit different right now, right?

00:38:19.440 I mean, I think, you know, I think the Republicans are in a place where they have, uh, more cards

00:38:24.600 than the Democrats do.

00:38:25.840 There's a good chance the Democrats wind up getting blamed for this and by the American

00:38:30.400 people, not the media, but by the American people, they don't like shutdowns, even though

00:38:34.780 I'm honestly not that broken up about them.

00:38:39.300 I'm thrilled.

00:38:40.080 Yeah.

00:38:41.000 And, and then you have the other shot part of this, which is maybe, uh, the, the Russell

00:38:46.280 vault, you know, uh, Donald Trump.

00:38:48.720 I think that's real.

00:38:50.320 Well, by the way, is that how you say his name?

00:38:51.780 Cause I've always thought it was Russ.

00:38:52.820 I've heard, I hear both ways.

00:38:54.200 So I don't know.

00:38:54.820 I'm just going to go back and forth to confuse people, but yeah, that's a, they, the, in 0.98

00:38:59.840 case you don't know what we're talking about here, the, uh, there's a, uh, Russ, he put

00:39:06.080 together this plan over the four years where they were out of power to try to maximize

00:39:10.420 opportunities like this.

00:39:12.040 And he, you know, there's this long profile just written in the New York times about how

00:39:16.960 scary and terrifying he is for those reasons.

00:39:19.880 But he's smart and prepared when you hear Trump talk about, Hey, we're just going to fire

00:39:24.960 these people and not bring them back.

00:39:26.980 You know, that is, you know, it's Trump's plan.

00:39:30.180 It's Trump's idea with Russ's execution behind it.

00:39:33.240 And so that's the, that's the thought here is that maybe you can get some long-term gains

00:39:38.600 out of this.

00:39:39.460 Um, one of the, one of my other favorite nuggets on this, Glenn, is the healthcare credits that

00:39:44.460 they're looking for, the, that the Democrats say they want, right?

00:39:47.380 They're like, we got to have these.

00:39:48.660 We can't have a seven week, which was the proposal by Republicans, seven weeks of just

00:39:52.580 continuing the spending and figuring things out.

00:39:54.380 So currently those tax credits are in effect.

00:39:56.440 They are available right now.

00:39:58.200 Uh, Republicans want to end them.

00:39:59.900 Um, the, uh, interesting part is they don't run out in the seven week period that Republicans

00:40:06.780 are proposing to increase or to continue the spending.

00:40:11.740 So they wouldn't go away if everybody's just signed on to the Republican plan, which by the

00:40:18.680 way, I mean, neither one of us particularly like it just increasing spending at these ridiculous

00:40:23.360 levels for another seven weeks. 0.82

00:40:24.980 But these credits that they're so worried about, that they're going to kill all these people

00:40:29.340 and the healthcare is going to go away.

00:40:30.560 Don't go away during that time period.

00:40:33.000 They go away after that.

00:40:34.680 And they're saying, well, people are going to get notified that they're going away in

00:40:38.540 that period.

00:40:39.040 And therefore we have to shut down the government so that people wouldn't get notifications that

00:40:46.540 they might be going away.

00:40:47.880 We have to stop it before that.

00:40:49.580 That's their big plan.

00:40:50.680 You would think that the Democrats would want people to be notified that they're going

00:40:54.220 away because it would help their case.

00:40:55.700 Right.

00:40:55.840 Well, I mean, there's an argument to be made that maybe they do, but I think a lot of that

00:41:00.600 is just they're making things up as they go along.

00:41:03.620 Right.

00:41:04.200 You know, that doesn't sound like the Democratic Party.

00:41:07.900 Like Chuck Schumer last time when he was threatened with evil Russ and his evil plans said, okay,

00:41:14.580 we're going to fold and we're going to just keep the government going at the current levels.

00:41:18.540 And this time he's saying the exact opposite.

00:41:22.960 And he's saying, because last time his idea was, well, they're going to fire all these

00:41:26.640 people.

00:41:26.940 This time he's saying, well, they're firing all these people anyway.

00:41:29.560 Like they just, they just change, move the goalposts, change the arguments and act as

00:41:35.160 if this all makes sense.

00:41:36.220 And so here's what I would like to see Donald Trump do.

00:41:39.080 Because I read this morning and I don't know what rag it was, but they were saying, you

00:41:42.600 know, Donald Trump, he's bluffing.

00:41:43.800 He's bluffing.

00:41:44.440 I, you know, no, I don't think he is.

00:41:46.500 I don't, I hope he's not.

00:41:48.240 Listen to Donald Trump yesterday on this cut to one.

00:41:51.300 If Doge is already reducing the federal workforce, why is it necessary to link more federal

00:41:56.860 jobs cut to a shutdown?

00:41:59.100 Well, the Democrats want to shut it down.

00:42:00.960 So when you shut it down, you have to do layoffs.

00:42:03.180 So we'd be laying off a lot of people that are going to be very affected and the Democrats,

00:42:07.920 they're going to be Democrats.

00:42:10.080 As you know, we, this country, no country can afford to pay for illegal immigration, health 0.99

00:42:15.360 care for everybody that comes into the country.

00:42:17.420 And that's what they're insisting.

00:42:19.120 And obviously I have an obligation to not accept that.

00:42:22.180 That would affect everybody.

00:42:23.920 You know, when I see what we're doing with AI and all the plants that are opening up in

00:42:27.560 the country, $17 trillion is coming.

00:42:29.880 And if you compare that to Biden, Biden had in four years less than a trillion.

00:42:35.220 We have 17 trillion more than that.

00:42:37.000 But I think it's going to be much more than that, David.

00:42:38.900 By the end of this year, I think it's going to be far over that.

00:42:43.060 It's a record.

00:42:43.660 It's already a record in eight months.

00:42:45.740 It's a record by a lot.

00:42:47.680 And so we're doing well as a country.

00:42:49.240 So the last thing we want to do is shut it down.

00:42:51.240 But a lot of good can come down from shutdowns.

00:42:55.600 We can get rid of a lot of things that we didn't want.

00:42:57.860 And they'd be Democrat things.

00:42:59.820 But they want open borders.

00:43:01.340 They want men playing in women's sports. 0.99

00:43:03.480 They want transgender for everybody.

00:43:05.580 They never stop.

00:43:06.340 But they don't learn.

00:43:07.260 We won an election in a landslide.

00:43:09.060 They just don't learn.

00:43:10.300 So we have no choice.

00:43:11.360 I have to do that for the country.

00:43:13.980 So what I'm hearing him say here over and over again is, yeah, we're just going to shut

00:43:18.780 these things down.

00:43:19.540 We don't want them.

00:43:21.100 And it's a permanent thing.

00:43:23.620 You're going to have to go through reauthorization to get these non-essential programs back.

00:43:30.500 And, you know, if they're not mandated, he's saying, Russ is planning to just cut them all.

00:43:38.660 If it's not mandatory spending, cut it.

00:43:42.540 I think that is absolutely fantastic.

00:43:45.720 I mean, I don't know why we haven't done that before.

00:43:48.860 Now, it's going to go into the court system, et cetera, et cetera.

00:43:51.980 It's going to be a fight.

00:43:52.620 But that's one I'm willing to die on.

00:43:54.360 That's a hill I want to take.

00:43:55.660 Yeah, and of course, you're right.

00:43:57.660 Every single one of those jobs will have a lawsuit attached to it, and they will get 0.52

00:44:01.340 some of them reversed.

00:44:02.380 There's no question about it.

00:44:03.660 But that's why you should fire twice the amount of people.

00:44:06.380 Right.

00:44:06.780 If they're going to reverse half of them, just fire twice as many.

00:44:10.300 Yeah.

00:44:11.020 Yeah.

00:44:11.440 And I think, you know, partially one of the reasons why the question from the reporter

00:44:15.980 was, hey, you know, hey, if you're doing this with Doge already, how come?

00:44:18.740 Well, part of it is a lot of the Doge stuff got blocked, right?

00:44:21.360 A lot of the Doge stuff got blocked by courts, and it's been a real problem.

00:44:25.020 So this is a way they think they have a little bit more legal clearance on it.

00:44:28.480 Glenn, can I give you one trip down memory lane here, though?

00:44:31.920 This is a fun one.

00:44:33.300 Fun trip down memory lane.

00:44:35.720 Let's go back to 2009, if we could.

00:44:40.840 Barack Obama, he's doing the State of the Union Address.

00:44:44.580 Oh, my God.

00:44:45.040 And in the middle of this great man's address, as he's talking about the wonders of Obamacare,

00:44:54.080 an evil Republican legislator, screams out, you lie, from the audience.

00:45:03.740 It's a massive controversy. 0.75

00:45:05.980 A terrible-

00:45:06.400 But you don't do that.

00:45:07.300 You don't do that.

00:45:07.660 You don't call the President of the United States a liar.

00:45:10.980 Decorum, sir!

00:45:11.820 You don't do it.

00:45:13.000 Decorum, decorum, decorum. 0.88

00:45:14.940 You can call him a Nazi, but you don't call him a liar.

00:45:18.060 So he says you lie.

00:45:21.420 Why does he say you lie?

00:45:23.020 He says, because Barack Obama is up there on the stage, and Barack Obama says, with Obamacare,

00:45:28.680 we're not going to be giving any health care to illegal immigrants. 0.92

00:45:32.800 You lie. 0.95

00:45:33.400 You lie.

00:45:34.320 That's the controversy.

00:45:35.900 Everyone says, of course, every media report is, of course this isn't in Obamacare.

00:45:40.060 It's a shy...

00:45:40.660 How would he even claim such a thing?

00:45:42.780 And then, the next president, the next Democratic presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton, 0.75

00:45:50.140 puts it in the middle of her website for running for office.

00:45:55.440 That's 2016.

00:45:57.120 It's part of her platform that illegal immigrants will get care under Obamacare. 1.00

00:46:03.840 Part of her platform.

00:46:04.820 They go from you lie to part of the platform in just one presidential election.

00:46:10.620 And then, we should note now, that it's so shocking that illegal immigrants wouldn't get 1.00

00:46:19.100 health care out of Obamacare.

00:46:20.780 We need to shut the government down over it.

00:46:23.500 That is how your country works in three easy steps.

00:46:28.360 That is, by definition, progressivism.

00:46:33.320 You move in the direction, but you say, no, it'll never be that.

00:46:38.760 Then, the next president, the next opportunity, you move a little further and you go like,

00:46:43.180 well, that's it.

00:46:44.020 And then, the next president, the next opportunity, you're like, of course that's what it is.

00:46:48.920 I mean, it's just right there.

00:46:50.680 And then, you say, how dare you hurt these poor people by taking away that plan we said

00:46:56.800 didn't exist?

00:46:57.980 Right.

00:46:58.540 Oh, it's so frustrating. 1.00

00:46:59.460 And nobody knows because people are just so stupid. 1.00

00:47:02.040 They don't remember, you lie. 1.00

00:47:04.900 They have been ratcheted up into their hatred for the other side.

00:47:09.940 And they always lie.

00:47:11.000 They always lie.

00:47:11.540 They always lie.

00:47:12.060 They always lie. 0.95

00:47:13.100 You know, like when he stood up and called President Obama a liar.

00:47:16.780 Yeah, well, no, they weren't lying.

00:47:18.740 They were telling the truth because they understand how progressivism works.

00:47:23.420 But you refuse to see, you know, this is my favorite question to ask people is, how did

00:47:30.360 you get there?

00:47:31.340 How did you get there?

00:47:32.860 What do you mean?

00:47:33.920 How did you get to where illegal aliens should? 1.00

00:47:37.420 Because you were against that 10 years ago.

00:47:39.800 In fact, you said, that's a lie.

00:47:41.940 That'll never happen.

00:47:43.220 Okay, so take me to, that's a lie.

00:47:45.460 That'll never happen.

00:47:46.280 Which you were passionate about because you understood we couldn't afford that.

00:47:51.200 Tell me the logic that had been introduced to you over the last 10 years that made you

00:47:58.760 move from, that's a lie, that will never happen, how un-American of you to even say we

00:48:04.400 would think that way, to how dare you even try to say we shouldn't be paying for that

00:48:10.380 health care.

00:48:11.140 Help me with the logic because I want to understand.

00:48:14.420 My guess is you've just been riding a wave of feelings and propaganda.

00:48:21.200 So please tell me, how did you get from that place 10 years ago to this place today?

00:48:29.360 Because there is no new information.

00:48:32.160 There's none.

00:48:32.980 In fact, the new information shows it's even more insane to do it today than it was 10 years

00:48:38.800 ago.

00:48:39.120 Na, na, na, na.

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The Glenn Beck Program - October 01, 2025

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