The Glenn Beck Program - October 17, 2023


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On today's show, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) joins Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Representative) to discuss the ongoing government shutdown and how to get Republicans to join the fight. Rep. Jordan is a freshman congressman from Ohio and has been a long-time member of the Freedom Caucus.

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00:00:00.000 All right, so the podcast today, you have a lot of good stuff on it.
00:00:04.460 I kind of blew my lid a couple of times.
00:00:06.160 You did. You had no self-control, which is...
00:00:09.220 No, I mean...
00:00:10.160 It's like how you are around cookies.
00:00:12.180 Well, okay, yes, you were right, but cookies don't piss me off like the Republicans.
00:00:17.440 No, that's lack of cookies that pisses me off.
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00:01:16.300 Let me go to our good friend, one of the very few in Washington, Chip Roy.
00:01:37.980 Hello, Chip.
00:01:38.620 How are you?
00:01:39.860 Doing great, Glenn.
00:01:41.380 How are you?
00:01:41.920 I'd like a plan.
00:01:45.060 You know, I'd like the Republicans to have a plan.
00:01:47.660 I'd like them to succeed from time to time.
00:01:52.340 You know, this vote today with Jim Jordan looks like, I mean, it looks close at least.
00:02:00.380 But close, if we were playing hand grenades, would count.
00:02:04.640 But we're not playing hand grenades is is tell me the situation in Washington.
00:02:12.060 Well, I see what you did there with the horseshoes and hand grenades reference.
00:02:15.940 The look, look, let me just first say like us to have a plan.
00:02:22.520 I agree with you, Glenn.
00:02:24.440 Look, I have a plan.
00:02:25.740 A number of us have a plan in terms of what we believe we ought to be doing to constrain spending, use the appropriations process to stop what's going on here with the abuse of our liberties and, you know, tyrannical government to secure the border.
00:02:41.300 We passed a bill to do that.
00:02:42.680 I mean, everybody needs to remember.
00:02:44.560 So we're not always in despair.
00:02:46.480 We passed the best border bill we've ever passed.
00:02:49.260 That took an enormous amount of work.
00:02:51.420 Now we've got to do something with it.
00:02:53.080 That's the whole point.
00:02:54.300 We've got to stand strong.
00:02:55.460 Stop giving a blank check to Ukraine.
00:02:56.880 All those things.
00:02:57.500 We do have a plan to try to wrestle this government back from a tyrannical president.
00:03:01.660 But now the question is how we're going to do it and how much we get Republicans to do the right thing.
00:03:05.240 And remember, 10 years ago today, or give or take today, 10 years ago this month, we just ended the Obamacare shutdown when I was Ted Cruz's chief of staff.
00:03:15.480 We were meeting in the basement of Tortilla Coast, a little rump group of 10 members of Congress and Ted Cruz.
00:03:21.400 Now we have the Freedom Caucus.
00:03:23.660 It's been formed.
00:03:24.400 Jim Jordan helped form it.
00:03:26.280 Donald Trump has come into the White House and shaken up this town.
00:03:29.940 We've had an enormous change in that.
00:03:32.740 Can you imagine if 10 years ago we'd have said Jim Jordan might become Speaker of the House?
00:03:37.620 No, no, no, no.
00:03:38.220 This is a I mean, the upside is very, very good.
00:03:42.080 I'm not concerned about your plan or, you know, some that I support in in Washington.
00:03:47.140 I I'm very concerned about those whose plan includes, hey, you know what?
00:03:52.080 Maybe we can get a real moderate to, you know, team up with the Democrats and then we could rule together.
00:03:58.900 Oh, my gosh.
00:04:00.160 Well, so, Glenn, yes.
00:04:02.440 Some of that rhetoric is crazy.
00:04:04.200 Now, a lot of it's overstated.
00:04:05.940 Right.
00:04:06.240 I mean, I had a conversation with one of my colleagues.
00:04:08.140 I'm not going to name who's one of the few.
00:04:11.040 And he was upset because he said people are out there saying I'm going to go cut a deal for Hakeem Jeffries.
00:04:15.060 I'm never going to do that.
00:04:16.080 He's a socialist.
00:04:16.860 He's crazy.
00:04:17.920 So a lot of that is overstated.
00:04:19.800 We'll see what happens.
00:04:21.540 Our perspective is we'll go to the floor.
00:04:24.300 Jim's been working it all weekend.
00:04:25.640 I was working it all weekend.
00:04:26.900 I was calling colleagues.
00:04:28.000 We were working to figure out a plan and work, you know, work through it.
00:04:31.520 We'll see what happens right now.
00:04:32.920 The numbers are somewhere between five and 10.
00:04:35.740 I think you never know how the dynamic plays on the floor.
00:04:39.060 But once you have to cast your vote, look, I've been there.
00:04:42.200 Remember, once you have to cast your vote, there's a lot of eyes of the world on you.
00:04:46.680 There's a lot of pressure.
00:04:47.780 So you've got to have a reason.
00:04:49.820 We had a reason.
00:04:51.220 We wanted to change this place.
00:04:53.460 Kevin, to his credit, helped us change this place, just not as fast and as far, frankly, as we needed to go.
00:05:00.300 So we moved the ball forward.
00:05:02.540 Now let's figure out how to get the right coach in there now to finish the job or the right quarterback, whatever, you know, analogy you want to use.
00:05:09.600 And so we'll see what happens on the floor today.
00:05:11.800 I think it's going to be somewhere around 8 to 10-ish in the first round.
00:05:16.500 And then we're going to have to pull off and go talk to those individuals and try to get them over the hump.
00:05:22.160 And that's just where we are right now.
00:05:24.000 And this is all being laid bare before the world and the American people, that the battle for the soul of this country isn't just red shirt, blue shirt.
00:05:34.540 It's really inside the Republican Party where we're trying to change the Republican Party to be a party that is fighting for the hardworking American against this town.
00:05:46.340 For too long, this party has been too much of this town.
00:05:49.940 This is a hard effort.
00:05:52.020 And we're going around the clock trying to do it.
00:05:54.300 I'm actually amazed we've taken it as far as we have.
00:05:57.380 I am too.
00:05:57.860 You and I both just are watching the country burning to the ground.
00:06:01.000 And we're like, guys, there's no more time.
00:06:03.160 Get the extinguishers and let's get busy rebuilding.
00:06:05.380 So that's where you and I are.
00:06:07.440 That's where the bulk of the Republican Party is moving towards.
00:06:10.340 But we've got to get 200 and, you know, sufficient number, 217 plus, in order to get there.
00:06:16.700 Okay.
00:06:16.960 So let me go over the list of some people that are on the fence and tell me, unless you know some names that could use some nice urging from their constituents today.
00:06:31.020 Who would benefit from that?
00:06:33.500 Well, let me first stipulate this and bear out for a second.
00:06:39.000 I have worked with some colleagues over the last three days to move the needle.
00:06:43.400 And I said, look, I am not going to get into the personal finger-pointed game, at least until we get to the floor.
00:06:49.620 Now, once you vote, then it's on you.
00:06:51.140 You're going to have to own the vote.
00:06:52.600 So I'm trying to be a little careful, me personally, between now and today at noon.
00:06:56.920 Because you can imagine, there's a lot of personal engagement with individuals to get them over the hump.
00:07:01.200 But what I will tell you is, there's a lot of public lists that are pretty darned accurate in terms of the, call it five, six, seven.
00:07:10.740 I saw a list today of about seven that are, you know, the ones that have publicly been saying that, hey, they're going to vote for Kevin McCarthy.
00:07:18.140 Or they're going to vote, you know, for Steve Scalise.
00:07:21.060 Or they're going to vote for someone else.
00:07:22.640 And it's mostly wrapped around being frustrated that Kevin got deposed by just eight individuals.
00:07:28.840 Get over it.
00:07:30.480 And some are frustrated because they thought Scalise should be next man up.
00:07:35.300 And, you know, that didn't happen for a variety of reasons.
00:07:38.460 And some of them are just mad at Matt Gaetz and those that pulled the motion of AK.
00:07:43.200 And I've just told them, I said, look, you've got to get over that.
00:07:45.820 Right?
00:07:45.960 That's not what this is about.
00:07:47.300 What this is about is right now unifying in order to go beat Democrats.
00:07:50.740 We have one year to the election.
00:07:52.740 We've got to go fight right now to make sure that whatever we do for Israel is very focused, targeted, paid for, and is not used to go be an excuse for Ukraine. 0.82
00:08:01.740 We've got to go right now, make sure that we go fight to secure the border.
00:08:04.760 We've got to go right now, make sure that they're not going to do a blank check to Ukraine.
00:08:08.060 We've got to go right now, fight, but hold spending in check and hold this administration accountable.
00:08:13.340 There are a thousand things for us to be focusing on.
00:08:16.180 And internecine party skirmishes is not one of them.
00:08:19.460 This is a tough thing.
00:08:20.440 Let's get there and let's go unite for the American people.
00:08:23.200 That is my message right now between now and people voting.
00:08:25.880 Now, once people vote, they got to answer for it.
00:08:28.840 They got to explain why.
00:08:30.460 And it ain't good enough to say, I don't like Matt Gaetz and I'm mad.
00:08:33.620 You got to have a reason.
00:08:35.020 What is your reason?
00:08:36.040 What are you doing?
00:08:36.820 Why is Jim Jordan not the guy right now to help us unite to beat Democrats?
00:08:40.760 That's the question we should be asking every single member who does not vote for Jim at, you know, whatever it's going to be, noon Eastern.
00:08:47.180 Sure.
00:08:47.760 Okay.
00:08:48.160 I'd love to have you on, like, one of my social medias or something after the vote because I'm finished at noon Eastern time.
00:08:57.560 Happy to do it.
00:08:58.540 You know.
00:08:58.860 Okay, good.
00:08:59.560 I'll have somebody reach out.
00:09:00.540 We'll set it up.
00:09:01.480 If, you know, then their votes are on their own heads.
00:09:05.080 And let's mobilize people.
00:09:08.760 Absolutely.
00:09:09.680 And, Glenn, we'll be happy to do it and talk about it.
00:09:12.320 And, look, everybody out there, though, I can tell you this.
00:09:14.780 Call your member of Congress and make sure they're supporting Jim Jordan.
00:09:18.220 Light up the phones all day today.
00:09:20.880 And make sure that your voices are heard.
00:09:24.420 Okay.
00:09:25.140 Thank you, Chip.
00:09:25.860 I appreciate it.
00:09:26.380 We'll talk again soon.
00:09:27.460 God bless you.
00:09:28.060 One of the good guys.
00:09:29.560 And there's lots of them.
00:09:30.940 There are.
00:09:31.520 There are actually more than ever.
00:09:32.780 I mean, think of this.
00:09:33.820 This, if Jim Jordan gets in today, this is, everybody said the Tea Party was dead.
00:09:42.360 Everybody said the, you know, constitutionalist was dead.
00:09:48.080 And the Republicans have done everything to kill it.
00:09:51.700 But think of this.
00:09:53.640 Having Jim Jordan as the Speaker of the House, what could get done?
00:09:58.840 What could get done, America?
00:10:00.580 America, this is not politics as usual.
00:10:04.100 And if it becomes that, then we hold Jim Jordan's feet to the fire.
00:10:07.740 But this is not politics as usual.
00:10:10.740 This is a game-changing opportunity.
00:10:13.940 And I will say, what he can get done is limited, right?
00:10:16.780 He's just, they just have the House.
00:10:18.500 They don't have the Senate.
00:10:19.520 They don't have the...
00:10:20.100 Correct.
00:10:20.580 But at least the House would be moving things forward.
00:10:24.580 Number one, yes.
00:10:25.640 Number two, one of the things they can do are these investigations.
00:10:29.880 And I don't know that there is a better person on the investigation part of this than, that you would want in control than Jim Jordan.
00:10:37.240 Yes.
00:10:37.500 I mean, he is the guy who's going to be a junkyard dog going after every little bit of this.
00:10:43.760 And that means you can shut the money off for the FBI.
00:10:49.140 You can shut the money off for the IRS.
00:10:53.040 If you have the House, you at least have a fight.
00:10:59.740 You at least have a horse in the game.
00:11:03.200 You know?
00:11:03.780 Without that, you got nothing.
00:11:06.800 And I'm sick and tired of the, you know, oh, yeah, we're going to do this as soon as we get the House, the Senate, and the White House.
00:11:15.160 No.
00:11:16.240 Do something with what you have.
00:11:19.280 Do something.
00:11:20.540 That's how you get, you know, at least in my business, if somebody has something and they're doing and they have the least amount of stuff, but all of a sudden they're doing incredible stuff, I then give them more resources to do more.
00:11:36.700 What we do, we have a bunch of people that are like, yeah, I need those resources before I can do anything.
00:11:42.560 That's not the way the world works now.
00:11:44.440 Okay?
00:11:44.660 It's not.
00:11:45.060 You show me what you can do, and then I'll give you a few more resources.
00:11:50.500 Then show me what you can do, and then I'll give you a few more resources.
00:11:55.760 Enough of this.
00:11:57.020 Call your House member today.
00:12:01.880 Make sure they're voting for Jim Jordan.
00:12:05.560 This is historic if it happens.
00:12:09.260 Absolutely historic.
00:12:11.360 And it will change everything.
00:12:14.980 And Gates, you will have played Russian roulette, but neither of us got our head blown off.
00:12:20.740 And the country lives to fight another day, and God bless you.
00:12:25.540 It's a great analogy.
00:12:26.660 Maybe not the best party game, but hey, if you both survive, well, great.
00:12:31.400 Great.
00:12:31.680 Maybe things are going to be better.
00:12:32.620 I'm fine.
00:12:32.920 And they would be better with Jordan, I think.
00:12:34.040 They would be.
00:12:34.980 By the way, one of the congressmen that we mentioned at the beginning of the show, it is Siscomani from New York.
00:12:43.700 He is a yes on Jim Jordan.
00:12:46.100 So this just happened as we were talking this hour.
00:12:49.780 He was a no undecided.
00:12:53.100 He was an undecided.
00:12:53.960 He was one of the people that had not announced.
00:12:55.360 He said he was going to announce Wednesday morning.
00:12:56.740 True to his word, he did.
00:12:57.760 And he has announced that he will vote for Jim Jordan.
00:13:00.120 Good.
00:13:00.560 Now, I'm looking.
00:13:01.660 I've looked at it.
00:13:02.720 Can we do a little nerd math here first?
00:13:04.240 Yeah.
00:13:04.560 Okay.
00:13:05.060 So 435 people in Congress, right?
00:13:07.640 Normally.
00:13:08.180 There are two vacant seats.
00:13:09.380 You're at 433.
00:13:11.460 You have to then subtract the people that are not going to be there for whatever reason.
00:13:15.260 There's one guy that I know of who's going to be at a funeral.
00:13:17.720 So that's at 432.
00:13:20.300 You've got also some present votes that if someone votes present, it's going to change the math a little bit.
00:13:25.440 Correct.
00:13:25.820 But still, this still means as of right now, he needs to get to 217.
00:13:29.060 That number could change to 216 or 215, depending on what goes on with the present votes or who shows up today.
00:13:35.380 Right now, 221 Republicans.
00:13:39.840 Now, one of them is at a funeral today.
00:13:42.320 So you're at 220, really.
00:13:44.780 Oh, my gosh.
00:13:45.160 You can only lose three?
00:13:46.360 You can lose three.
00:13:47.340 Now, he'll be back.
00:13:48.920 So if they were that close, they could re-vote and he would vote on the right side.
00:13:53.200 He wouldn't get through on the first vote.
00:13:55.100 But you can really only lose three or four, let's just say, is probably the real number long term.
00:14:02.220 There seems to be about seven who are saying no, no.
00:14:06.920 Like, and I mean, you know, some of them will say, well, I'm going to meet with them today and we'll see if something changes.
00:14:11.660 Stuff like that.
00:14:12.380 But they are saying outwardly they are a no.
00:14:14.720 There are another four to six that look like they're saying they're leaning no, or they won't say anything about how they're going to vote before the vote.
00:14:25.620 But some of those are gettable.
00:14:27.120 Like, and I'll give you an example of this.
00:14:28.340 Victoria Sparks, who we've had on the show, who's really, really good.
00:14:31.920 She's very frustrated with the process and how this has worked.
00:14:34.880 I get it.
00:14:35.440 So am I.
00:14:36.100 And so it's understandable.
00:14:37.840 Now, you know, Ms. Sparks, she's not the type that's just going to be won over.
00:14:43.460 She's, you know, very, very strong on stuff.
00:14:46.040 She's very principled and she believes the principle here is problem.
00:14:49.040 What she's saying publicly, however, is if they if Jordan does not have the votes, she's going to vote present.
00:14:57.460 OK, now I anyway, go ahead.
00:15:00.720 We don't have time.
00:15:01.380 Go ahead.
00:15:01.600 The point being, though, see, that seems to say if he does have the votes, there's a chance she's going to vote for him.
00:15:08.180 What her problem is just on how they basically, you know, gone about this process.
00:15:13.120 She's not against Jordan as a person.
00:15:15.800 So if you think in the situation where we've got a speaker of the House, Jordan, on the line, she might come along.
00:15:21.720 And these are people that aren't necessarily definite.
00:15:23.880 No, this is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:15:26.860 And we really want to thank you for listening in a small village in Poland.
00:15:31.600 During World War Two, there was a woman, a nurse named Irina Sendler.
00:15:42.040 She had soft eyes and a calm demeanor.
00:15:46.220 But she had the heart of a giant and a lion.
00:15:52.640 And she risked absolutely everything.
00:15:56.120 She had her priorities in the right order.
00:15:59.300 If you know her story, let me tell you just a little bit more, perhaps some things you didn't know.
00:16:09.320 Risking everything, this woman by herself got papers that allowed her to enter the Warsaw Ghetto.
00:16:19.380 The ghetto was a prison in every single way except by name.
00:16:27.980 It was just a walled-off section of the cities.
00:16:31.040 They walled it off.
00:16:32.500 The Nazis forced all of the Jews, the undesirables, to live behind it out of sight and out of mind. 0.97
00:16:38.600 Irina saw beyond the bricks and mortar.
00:16:44.940 To her, these people, the children, were never out of sight or mind.
00:16:50.080 How many of us today say, I don't have time?
00:16:56.820 I don't want to get involved.
00:16:58.740 That was the case back then.
00:17:00.740 But the consequences were much higher than they are now.
00:17:06.600 If people had just done little risky things, you know, paid more attention to what was really going on and stood against little things, perhaps Irina wouldn't have had to do this.
00:17:22.920 But she acquired the forged papers, and they allowed her to enter the ghetto, not to inspect sanitary conditions, as her badge claimed.
00:17:33.720 Her job was to smuggle out children. 1.00
00:17:39.700 It was a daily, daring operation of hope.
00:17:44.920 Every time she entered, she walked on the razor's edge.
00:17:48.840 Her heart raced, knowing the weight of her secret could be her undoing.
00:17:55.660 And every time she entered, that was harrowing enough.
00:17:59.160 But it was her exit every day.
00:18:02.240 That was the real danger.
00:18:05.580 Every day, she'd go into the ghetto, and she'd find a way to smuggle a child or two out.
00:18:11.080 And she would smuggle them out in a toolbox, in a bag, sometimes beneath a tram or an ambulance.
00:18:25.080 She carefully selected a network.
00:18:29.060 And she managed to save 2,500 children from certain death, one child at a time.
00:18:38.880 Imagine.
00:18:42.860 But as she walked out of the ghetto, each time she was carrying a child, she carried more with her.
00:18:49.420 Each time she left the ghetto, her pockets were full of tiny little mementos of the desperate parents.
00:18:57.560 A photo, or a locket, or a scribbled note.
00:19:02.800 The final messages to the world.
00:19:07.060 Placed in the trusting hands of a stranger.
00:19:10.340 She kept all of those hidden in a place she only knew about.
00:19:20.140 The Gestapo eventually caught wind of her deeds.
00:19:23.660 There was rumors of an angel that was helping.
00:19:27.820 And they were too loud to be ignored.
00:19:30.580 You see, evil has its plans.
00:19:33.960 And it will go after every angel.
00:19:37.020 Because every angel disrupts its chaos, its evil, and its mission.
00:19:45.000 In this case, to liquidate every Jew on earth. 1.00
00:19:50.260 They found the angel.
00:19:51.680 The Gestapo captured and tortured her.
00:19:54.460 They needed her to talk.
00:19:56.120 They needed her secrets.
00:19:58.420 How?
00:19:59.120 Who?
00:19:59.900 Why?
00:20:02.300 They broke her legs.
00:20:04.360 They broke her feet. 0.89
00:20:05.360 Even under intense pain, she never revealed the identities of the children she saved.
00:20:13.060 Or any of the collaborators.
00:20:16.260 She never revealed any of the secrets she held personally.
00:20:21.240 Oh, had they only known just that one secret.
00:20:25.680 How different things might have been.
00:20:27.700 Her friends, believe it or not, managed to bribe her way out of her execution.
00:20:35.080 They get her out.
00:20:42.900 They heal.
00:20:44.920 Broken legs, broken feet.
00:20:47.780 They get her off the gallows.
00:20:50.820 Only to see her, then, after she's been healed, to continue her work under a different name.
00:20:58.740 We can't relate to it here, like they can over in Europe.
00:21:08.420 Communities never really healed.
00:21:11.440 We're much more like children in America.
00:21:15.600 We're much more trusting of our neighbors and our government.
00:21:19.720 Because we've never had it really turn on us before.
00:21:23.780 We've never, until recently, had neighbors actually spy on one another and turn each other in.
00:21:29.400 It wasn't until COVID.
00:21:33.680 Those scars are left on Europe.
00:21:38.260 They were left on Irina.
00:21:40.800 Physical and deep within her soul.
00:21:43.940 Post-war Poland tried to move on, but now the communists were in.
00:21:53.180 And the memories lingered like an unending winter.
00:21:58.720 Irina was celebrated by many, but she kept her most profound secret locked away.
00:22:07.720 It wasn't until later when a tattered old diary surfaced.
00:22:12.460 Its pages were yellowed with time.
00:22:18.000 It wasn't her diary.
00:22:20.440 It actually belonged to a child that she had kept hidden as she rescued others and hid others.
00:22:31.600 The pages were filled with sketches of the tiny attic hideout.
00:22:37.020 It's full of nightmares and dreams of freedoms.
00:22:40.480 You can almost hear in reading it the hushed lullabies sung in the dark.
00:22:46.760 Feel the cold gusts through the attic floorboards.
00:22:50.560 And the sense of the unspoken understanding between the two lives in this diary.
00:22:57.160 Intertwined in a web of secrets and sacrifices and unsung heroics.
00:23:02.500 The world really knows of one girl's little diary.
00:23:07.520 Maybe we've forgotten about the other girl's diary.
00:23:13.540 Or perhaps we were never taught about this little girl.
00:23:16.140 The stories she told on those pages of her diary didn't happen in Amsterdam.
00:23:24.520 They happened in Warsaw.
00:23:26.820 The diary just chronicled the harrowing tales of a little girl watching her mother leave night after night,
00:23:37.420 not knowing if mom would ever return.
00:23:40.000 It's the tale of a young girl watching her mother disappear nightly.
00:23:48.060 Her mom was Irina Sendler.
00:23:53.400 The nurse.
00:23:56.760 Unbeknownst to anyone else, these two shared their peril, their most guarded secret.
00:24:03.280 In her bid to save thousands, Irina was also racing against time to save her own daughter from the jaws of death.
00:24:14.840 Nobody knew, but Irina herself was Jewish.
00:24:20.480 And she was hiding in plain sight.
00:24:25.420 All of those years, she wasn't just saving the children of others.
00:24:29.140 She also knew the importance of keeping her own heritage, her own daughter.
00:24:35.580 And at that time, the importance of keeping it secret.
00:24:40.800 In the pages of that diary are all the trinkets and the photos and the lockets of hair.
00:24:47.800 The silent promises from parents to children.
00:24:51.840 Each item a desperate plea.
00:24:55.040 Remember me.
00:24:59.140 Today, strangely, once again, the world stands on the threshold of insanity.
00:25:12.400 And we can still see the truth.
00:25:15.560 It's just right behind us.
00:25:22.940 And we teeter on the edge.
00:25:24.840 Are we going to step across this threshold?
00:25:29.480 Or are we going to turn around and close this door?
00:25:33.160 Will we actually listen to those cries, those pleas, that have been silenced for so long?
00:25:41.060 Remember me.
00:25:48.400 Most people don't even remember her name.
00:25:50.600 Most people are long forgotten.
00:25:52.700 And we memorize the names of great generals and battles and dates.
00:25:57.920 But we really don't know their story.
00:26:01.660 Her story is not really.
00:26:04.120 Her name is not really important.
00:26:05.700 Her story is what matters.
00:26:08.300 Her story is what will inspire others.
00:26:10.860 There's no big statue of Irina.
00:26:18.020 There's just a simple tree now, planted in her honor in Jerusalem.
00:26:22.640 That bears the testament to a life dedicated to standing up and just doing the next right thing.
00:26:33.040 Never again is now.
00:26:36.740 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:26:43.040 All right.
00:26:44.240 Father Calvin Robinson, an Anglican deacon, is here to answer,
00:26:49.320 what the heck happened to Great Britain?
00:26:53.040 Oh, my goodness.
00:26:54.040 I wish I knew.
00:26:54.720 In fact, I do know.
00:26:56.040 How are you?
00:26:56.960 Very well.
00:26:57.500 How are you?
00:26:57.860 Good.
00:26:58.100 Thank you for having me on.
00:26:59.020 You bet.
00:26:59.420 Welcome.
00:26:59.760 I'm glad you're here.
00:27:00.700 It's a mess.
00:27:01.140 So, GB News, explain for anybody that doesn't know what GB News, Great Britain News,
00:27:07.420 and it is an independent voice.
00:27:10.580 The premise of GB News was it was supposed to provide some kind of alternative perspective
00:27:15.220 in England.
00:27:15.760 So, we've got Sky News, we've got the BBC, we've got a number of state broadcasters,
00:27:20.100 Channel 4, and they all sing from the same home sheet.
00:27:22.620 It's a metropolitan, liberal, elite bubble.
00:27:25.140 It's our Westminster bubble.
00:27:26.600 Our press and our politicians all live in the same area and talk the same talk.
00:27:30.120 But the vast majority of the country do not think like that.
00:27:33.660 And there's a silent majority that felt left behind.
00:27:35.920 And so, GB News was started how long ago?
00:27:39.560 Almost two years now.
00:27:40.800 Two years.
00:27:41.060 Just coming up to two years, yeah.
00:27:42.060 And you guys do great work.
00:27:44.040 Really great work.
00:27:44.600 Thank you.
00:27:45.080 And what happened?
00:27:48.240 They've gone mainstream, unfortunately.
00:27:50.800 This is the problem.
00:27:51.740 If you try to offer an alternative perspective in England, you'll get clamped down upon.
00:27:55.280 So, we had, everyone was after us.
00:27:57.000 You know, the left, the liberals were after us because we were coming from a, a lot of
00:28:00.440 us were coming from a centre-right perspective, even though we have to show balance in the
00:28:04.360 UK.
00:28:05.200 So, every single conversation we have, we have to have someone from the left and someone
00:28:08.360 from the right.
00:28:08.960 Oh, is that why it's so obnoxious?
00:28:10.640 So, I could say, I believe this, but other people believe that.
00:28:13.440 You can never just say, this is my opinion.
00:28:14.860 This is what I think.
00:28:15.460 Because our broadcaster, our broadcast regulator, Ofcom, clamped down heavily on due impartiality
00:28:22.100 and balance.
00:28:22.960 So, we had that angle.
00:28:24.060 We had the advertisers pulling out.
00:28:25.660 If ever we mentioned anything, you know, the sanctity of life, for example, the sanctity
00:28:29.900 of marriage being between one man and one woman.
00:28:32.380 Anything as controversial and outrageous as that, the advertisers would pull out.
00:28:36.620 So, on the one hand, we're trying to have balance in what we say.
00:28:39.640 On the other hand, we've got to kind of feed the crocodile and make sure that the advertisers
00:28:43.840 pay us, and then there's the woke mob, and the woke mob has been gunning for us since
00:28:47.580 day one, and the woke mob isn't just the lefty liberals, it's also the other broadcasters.
00:28:53.000 You know, people on the BBC and Sky were saying, close the whole thing down, we don't want
00:28:56.540 any competition.
00:28:57.400 It is crazy.
00:28:58.780 Yeah.
00:28:59.400 It is.
00:28:59.940 It's unbelievable how many people are afraid of other people's opinions.
00:29:05.620 Right.
00:29:06.100 Well, they don't want a free press either, which is astounding to me.
00:29:08.740 A broadcaster should experience a breadth of diversity of thought and opinion.
00:29:13.100 It should be a good thing.
00:29:14.360 Right.
00:29:14.780 But they're like, no, close those down.
00:29:16.120 They're not part of, they call it the broadcast ecology.
00:29:19.280 Oh, God.
00:29:20.940 So, you were fired at GP.
00:29:23.640 Yeah.
00:29:24.380 I mean, the brief synopsis of that story is that my friend Lawrence Fox said on air something
00:29:29.080 inappropriate about a woman because she's a misandrist, she's a man-hating fourth-wave 0.99
00:29:33.960 feminist, and he was saying, who'd want to have a relationship with someone like that? 1.00
00:29:37.480 Someone who clearly hates men.
00:29:39.780 Wait, that was it?
00:29:40.960 I don't know if I can use the word he said on air.
00:29:43.500 Okay.
00:29:43.860 No, probably.
00:29:44.740 You have different standards than me, too.
00:29:47.120 But he used an inappropriate word against her, but it's a word that she's used many times
00:29:51.440 against men.
00:29:52.200 And he was trying to say, this is a broader conversation here, because the conversation
00:29:55.880 was about men's mental health.
00:29:57.740 The biggest killer in men under the age of 50 in the UK is suicide.
00:30:02.080 We have a serious men's mental health problem.
00:30:03.940 You know, we were talking about this yesterday.
00:30:06.080 If this kind of suicide, if this was anything else, anything else, it would be called an
00:30:13.780 epidemic.
00:30:14.580 Yeah.
00:30:14.820 And all of these resources would be unleashed to stop this, figure out what's going on.
00:30:19.640 But Glenn, men are at the bottom of the intersectionality ladder, especially white 0.96
00:30:22.600 men, all the way at the bottom.
00:30:23.800 So, there's no help provided.
00:30:25.720 So, wait a minute.
00:30:26.660 Your friend was the one who said this.
00:30:28.540 Right.
00:30:28.820 So, she had a conversation first.
00:30:30.760 This female commentator had a conversation with someone who was saying, we need a men's 1.00
00:30:35.620 minister.
00:30:36.540 So, in our country, we have a women's minister in our parliament that looks after women's 0.93
00:30:39.760 issues.
00:30:40.320 He was saying, we need a men's minister, too, because men have particular issues and concerns
00:30:43.800 that they need addressing.
00:30:45.120 Either we don't have either, or we have both.
00:30:47.220 And she said, no, we don't need a men's minister. 1.00
00:30:49.340 Men are the problem. 1.00
00:30:50.440 Men are the oppressors.
00:30:51.660 Women have mental health issues, too. 1.00
00:30:53.120 It's all, what about you?
00:30:54.120 What about you?
00:30:55.600 And essentially, my friend, Lawrence Fox, was asked to comment on this situation.
00:30:59.700 And he said, look, people like her are the problem. 1.00
00:31:01.780 Men hating, fourth-wave feminists. 1.00
00:31:03.220 Who'd want to be with a person like that?
00:31:05.400 Used an inappropriate word, one that wasn't illegal, but I would say is probably immoral.
00:31:11.180 Should have been chastised for it.
00:31:12.880 Should have been reprimanded for it.
00:31:14.180 But he was suspended.
00:31:15.760 And the host of the show that he was on was also suspended for providing, well, not providing
00:31:20.620 enough challenge.
00:31:21.280 And I said, we cannot call ourselves the home of free speech and then cancel someone for
00:31:26.860 saying something that we find offensive.
00:31:29.060 And then I got suspended.
00:31:32.800 Oh, that's good.
00:31:33.880 It's just shocking.
00:31:35.280 It's good.
00:31:36.680 I've read some stuff that you have talked about, and I've got a lot to talk to you about.
00:31:40.840 But one of them is, I was just over in London, and it's just dead inside, you know?
00:31:53.000 It is also not Great Britain that it used to be.
00:31:58.900 If you look at the Palestinian... 1.00
00:32:00.840 Oh, don't.
00:32:02.540 London is a separate country at this point.
00:32:04.320 It is.
00:32:04.780 I can walk around London for half an hour and not hear a single English accent, or possibly
00:32:09.580 even the English language.
00:32:10.780 Yeah.
00:32:11.360 Yeah.
00:32:11.700 The demographics.
00:32:12.780 English people are in a minority in our capital city.
00:32:15.820 And that is a little frightening because of what's happening this week with the Palestinians. 1.00
00:32:21.680 Yeah.
00:32:22.240 You know, it's happening here in the United States as well.
00:32:24.780 I have no problem if you're for the Palestinians, but not if you are for the killing of innocents, 1.00
00:32:33.260 and not through war, but planned executions of walking into people's houses and just killing
00:32:40.380 the whole family.
00:32:41.580 Hamas is a proscribed terrorist organization in our country.
00:32:45.520 And we have people out on the streets waving the Palestinian flag, supporting Hamas for what 0.58
00:32:49.260 they're doing, for the kidnapping, the rape, murder of civilians, and babies, for goodness
00:32:53.860 sake, because they hate the Jews so much. 0.82
00:32:57.660 This is the dividing line in our country.
00:32:59.320 It is the Muslims versus the Jews. 1.00
00:33:01.160 It's those who support Israel versus those who support the Mohammedans, unfortunately. 0.96
00:33:05.260 You know, out here you seem to have a different picture.
00:33:07.360 Abortion seems to be the line where you can determine if someone's on the right or left of 0.99
00:33:10.780 politics.
00:33:11.500 In our country, it's where do you stand with the Mohammedans versus the Jews? 1.00
00:33:14.880 So, is it about Israel, or is it about, I mean, because I think it's not enough to be
00:33:23.140 for Israel.
00:33:24.080 You have to be for the right of the Jewish people to live.
00:33:29.780 And that seems to separate people throughout history.
00:33:36.680 You know, people will be, oh, no, I'm for Israel.
00:33:38.900 I'm for sure I'm for Israel.
00:33:40.480 But they're not necessarily for the Jews' right to live.
00:33:43.680 Right, right.
00:33:44.140 Well, this is the problem.
00:33:45.580 I mean, if you look at the entire area of the Middle East, Israel is surrounded by hostile
00:33:50.080 states.
00:33:50.940 It's Islamic states all the way around.
00:33:53.060 And all they want to do is live in peace in the center of that hellhole.
00:33:56.500 And of course, they have to defend themselves.
00:33:58.140 And the moment they do, people say, oh, you're oppressing us, you're persecuting us.
00:34:01.460 But I'm not saying there isn't nuance in this conversation.
00:34:03.940 There's plenty of nuance to be heard.
00:34:05.480 On my show, I've talked about the persecution of Christians in Israel recently.
00:34:08.800 And that is ramping up by both sides, by the Arabs and the Jews. 0.92
00:34:12.920 So that needs to be addressed.
00:34:14.120 But does not stop the Jewish people having a right to live.
00:34:17.980 Do you have a problem?
00:34:20.000 Because, I mean, Israel, I know the chief rabbi of the holy places and his job is to oversee
00:34:28.340 Muslim, Jewish, Christian holy places and make sure that they are all protected.
00:34:36.740 That's his job.
00:34:37.680 However, I don't have a problem with the Jewish people having a Jewish state.
00:34:45.240 Now, it's not.
00:34:46.060 But I don't have a problem with that.
00:34:48.220 Do you?
00:34:48.700 I mean, if that's what they want to do, they can do that.
00:34:55.020 Now, when they start executing people like Saudi Arabia or Iran, then I have a problem with it.
00:35:01.780 But if you're saying, look, this is a home for Jews, I don't have a problem.
00:35:07.480 Well, that is the only Jewish state. 0.79
00:35:09.520 We have plenty of Christian states, plenty of Islamic states.
00:35:11.720 That's the only Jewish state there is.
00:35:13.220 Right.
00:35:13.440 And I think it's important to have a state religion because it sets out the values for
00:35:17.320 that country.
00:35:17.740 It says, this is what we believe as a people.
00:35:19.540 This is who we are.
00:35:20.520 And it's the foundation of your culture.
00:35:22.640 You have to have a set of values and principles that people subscribe to.
00:35:25.400 So, our founders thought the exact opposite.
00:35:28.380 No, that's not true, is it?
00:35:29.320 No, no, no.
00:35:29.800 A state religion.
00:35:31.360 Yeah.
00:35:31.840 They, we are a Judeo-Christian country, but we don't have a state religion.
00:35:37.580 Let's go back to before you were a country, though.
00:35:39.380 Every single state that was set up in the United States was founded on a Christian setting. 0.72
00:35:43.400 The constitutions were explicitly Christian, whether it was, you know, Presbyterian, Pentecostal,
00:35:48.000 Anglican, Catholic, all of the states were Christian.
00:35:50.120 The problem was when they came together and when they stopped being these United States
00:35:53.900 and became the United States.
00:35:55.940 No, no, no.
00:35:56.700 The problem came.
00:35:58.220 Our founders were deeply, they knew that this country will fail if we ever lose our
00:36:05.800 underpinnings of God.
00:36:07.180 Yes.
00:36:07.500 What they didn't want was, no offense, the Anglican Church.
00:36:11.340 They didn't want one church that was ruling everything.
00:36:14.900 I agree, but it became implicit.
00:36:16.660 In your constitution of the United States, God is implicit and the Christian God is implicit. 0.95
00:36:20.740 It's not explicit.
00:36:22.040 It's not protected.
00:36:22.840 That's the problem.
00:36:23.440 And if we look all around the world, in Christian countries, everyone's right to freedom of
00:36:29.100 worship is protected.
00:36:30.100 But in countries that aren't Christian, you don't have that same freedom. 0.90
00:36:32.560 Correct.
00:36:33.520 Correct.
00:36:34.580 So I saw in one of the articles you wrote, I mean, you guys are in more trouble than we
00:36:42.480 are, and we're in a lot of trouble.
00:36:45.760 The number of abortions is about 200,000 per year, right?
00:36:50.040 The number of marriages in Great Britain, also about 200,000 a year.
00:36:58.020 Abortions going up, marriage going down.
00:37:00.820 That doesn't sound good.
00:37:02.360 No, we're killing the family, quite literally.
00:37:04.660 We're killing ourselves off.
00:37:06.040 The birth rate in the UK is down to 1.4.
00:37:08.020 It might be even less than that now.
00:37:09.140 So we're not even replacing ourselves.
00:37:10.760 A mother and a father isn't having two children. 0.96
00:37:13.460 And we are being outbred by people that do not like our culture and do not like our religion
00:37:18.160 and do not like necessarily our state.
00:37:20.100 So it's not a good place that we're in.
00:37:22.440 We need to encourage families.
00:37:23.600 We need to encourage marriage. 0.96
00:37:24.680 We need to encourage fathers in particular.
00:37:26.500 Fatherlessness is at a massive all-time high in our country.
00:37:29.800 And we see the statistics show us that if a family breaks down before a child reaches
00:37:33.360 the age of 18, they're twice as likely to end up homeless, twice as likely to end up
00:37:37.000 failing school, and twice as likely to end up in prison or some kind of crime.
00:37:40.640 It benefits society to have two parents.
00:37:43.620 Father Calvin Robinson, he's an Anglican deacon.
00:37:46.060 And we're just talking about the state of the Western world.
00:37:51.240 This is happening.
00:37:52.640 And we are, I mean, we're committing suicide.
00:37:58.080 We're committing suicide.
00:38:00.200 And nobody seems to care.
00:38:02.420 And the churches are completely silent.
00:38:07.540 What do we do?
00:38:08.940 If they're not silent, they're worse than that.
00:38:10.420 They're complicit.
00:38:10.900 Yes, right.
00:38:11.680 This is the problem.
00:38:12.380 In the Church of England at the moment, there's a conversation being had about
00:38:15.960 how they can implement same-sex blessings.
00:38:19.340 So essentially, approve of gay marriage. 0.78
00:38:22.240 That's the same thing the Pope is doing now with his synod.
00:38:25.400 He's like, same-sex marriage blessings. 0.99
00:38:29.080 Not the same, but it is.
00:38:30.160 No, we're blessing the people, not the union.
00:38:32.340 It's legalistic nonsense.
00:38:33.840 It's pharisaical is what it is.
00:38:36.140 And you can't ask God to bless what he has called abhorrent.
00:38:39.380 So what do we do to fight this?
00:38:43.940 Well, I think it has to be from the ground up.
00:38:45.620 It has to be the laity.
00:38:46.500 It has to be the faithful masses have to say,
00:38:48.700 no, this is not okay.
00:38:50.300 Because the leaders are captured.
00:38:52.480 The liberals have taken over the Western Church.
00:38:54.900 And we see that everywhere, from America to Canada to Australia,
00:38:57.760 New Zealand, and England.
00:38:58.720 Everywhere.
00:38:59.280 However, so I was in Rwanda in Africa earlier this year,
00:39:02.920 and there were so many faithful Anglicans out there.
00:39:05.580 I went to the Gafcom meeting,
00:39:07.100 so the primates from 85% of the world's representatives of Anglicans were there,
00:39:10.760 and they were orthodox in their faith.
00:39:12.100 And it reminded me that in America and England,
00:39:15.100 we spread the gospel around the world.
00:39:16.860 You know, in England, British Empire spread it to the colonies,
00:39:19.440 and America likewise.
00:39:21.420 And now it's time to get those people to return the gospel to us,
00:39:23.860 because we have lost it.
00:39:24.900 China is the same way. 0.74
00:39:27.400 The people in Iraq and Syria, the Christians that were there,
00:39:31.880 their faith is unlike anything I've ever witnessed in America.
00:39:37.320 Well, maybe it's because they are so persecuted out there.
00:39:39.320 And we're going to get, you were hinting at,
00:39:40.700 we're getting to a point where we might be persecuted for being Christians in the West.
00:39:43.660 So maybe that will strengthen the church.
00:39:45.260 How do we strengthen, if you're going to a church right now,
00:39:52.060 and you have kind of a wishy-washy,
00:39:54.740 how do you strengthen for people who want to stay in their church,
00:39:58.180 but they would like to get it back on track?
00:40:00.260 Yeah.
00:40:00.580 It's difficult.
00:40:01.420 I struggle with this.
00:40:02.560 I landed in America a few days ago,
00:40:05.040 and I was looking for a church to go to on Sunday.
00:40:07.500 I was looking around.
00:40:08.480 All the Episcopal churches here had female priests, 1.00
00:40:10.940 so obviously I couldn't go to one of them.
00:40:13.060 There was all kinds of wacky stuff.
00:40:14.580 There was a 100% Jesus church,
00:40:15.860 which I don't know what that means,
00:40:16.700 as if all the other churches don't have 100% Jesus, maybe 80%.
00:40:20.020 Oh, I went to a church where, I swear to you,
00:40:23.760 with a cross on the steeple, it said, the pastor said,
00:40:27.000 now you all know that I don't believe in God, but.
00:40:30.380 And I was like, what?
00:40:31.960 How is that even possible?
00:40:33.880 So 100% Jesus, that's a step up. 0.93
00:40:36.140 Oh, this universalism is taking over.
00:40:37.780 I know.
00:40:38.380 But I mean, there were so many churches, is my point,
00:40:40.660 but it was so difficult to find a good, solid church
00:40:43.100 with sound teaching.
00:40:44.580 That's the problem.
00:40:45.500 So I don't know what the faithful do.
00:40:46.800 If they walk away and say,
00:40:48.340 we're not going to stay here
00:40:49.020 because you're not teaching the Bible,
00:40:51.000 maybe that will leave the corrupt organizations 0.54
00:40:53.440 to continue what they're doing.
00:40:55.420 So maybe that's not the best approach.
00:40:56.560 Maybe you stay and fight from within,
00:40:57.880 but then you're not receiving sound teaching.
00:40:59.680 I don't know what the answer is.
00:41:01.680 You optimistic or pessimistic for the West?
00:41:04.900 I have hope,
00:41:05.980 because it doesn't matter what happens to the West.
00:41:08.520 This might be the end of the Western civilization
00:41:10.260 as we know it.
00:41:11.100 You know, empires have risen and fallen
00:41:12.400 throughout human history.
00:41:13.760 We have taken for granted
00:41:14.820 that what we have now will always be,
00:41:16.520 but it doesn't need to be.
00:41:18.320 As long as we maintain our faith,
00:41:20.080 that's what's important.
00:41:21.360 The kingdom to come is what's important.
00:41:23.360 What we are experiencing now,
00:41:24.760 it doesn't really matter.
00:41:25.800 So maybe the West will crumble.
00:41:27.140 We can't cling on to it too tightly.
00:41:28.820 We have to help it as much as we can.
00:41:30.260 We have to advance the kingdom,
00:41:31.260 but we can't make an idol of Western civilization.
00:41:33.340 Yeah, we can't lose our first citizenship
00:41:35.420 to save our second.
00:41:36.720 Absolutely.
00:41:37.240 That's what we're putting in.
00:41:37.980 And there are many examples of that.
00:41:42.080 And it's amazing to me how many Christians
00:41:44.260 who claim to believe in a biblical God,
00:41:49.780 but see the saving of the West
00:41:52.380 as too big of a miracle.
00:41:53.980 We've got to do it.
00:41:55.060 Yeah.
00:41:55.220 And it's like,
00:41:56.760 I mean, raising people from the dead,
00:41:58.260 that's a little harder than, you know.
00:42:00.720 Well, I mean, it goes two ways, doesn't it?
00:42:01.940 We have to pray, but we also have to enact things.
00:42:04.620 Yeah, God works through us.
00:42:06.080 Yeah.
00:42:07.000 It's weird.
00:42:07.840 We are self-hating egomaniacs so much of the time.
00:42:13.060 We either deny the power of God
00:42:16.540 and think we're all powerful,
00:42:18.420 or we deny any power
00:42:22.460 or any, you know, ability to do anything about it
00:42:26.420 and put it all on God,
00:42:27.880 where it's kind of a little a mixture of both.
00:42:29.860 It is.
00:42:30.160 Yeah.
00:42:30.320 There's a massive problem of us
00:42:31.660 trying to make gods of ourselves at the moment.
00:42:34.140 So you're going back to England.
00:42:35.680 What are you doing?
00:42:37.180 Well, I'm just going back to my church.
00:42:38.760 So I've always been bivocational.
00:42:40.400 So I've got a parish church that I'm responsible for,
00:42:42.420 and I also have the media stuff.
00:42:43.880 I don't have the media stuff anymore,
00:42:45.520 so I don't know what I'm going to be doing next.
00:42:47.460 Well, maybe we can help you.
00:42:48.720 There's another GB news here, kind of, called Blaze.
00:42:52.280 You believe in freedom?
00:42:53.060 You believe in Christ?
00:42:54.060 Yes, we do.
00:42:55.140 Yes, we do.
00:42:55.820 Thank you so much, Father.
00:42:57.020 Appreciate it.
00:42:57.660 Not at all.
00:42:58.020 God bless.
00:42:58.980 Father Calvin Robinson, Anglican deacon.
00:43:01.540 You can find him at calvinrobinson.com.
00:43:05.440 calvinrobinson.com.