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00:00:12.640 Hey, on today's podcast, there's a couple of things.

00:00:15.480 We had Jack Carr on. He is fantastic talking about, you know, what he thinks about what's going on in Iran,

00:00:21.520 what happened, what is possibly coming our way. Really important.

00:00:25.840 Also, I talked about what does a win look like? We have to define that.

00:00:30.000 But in the last hour, and you should listen to the whole expanded version if you want to get the whole thing,

00:00:35.060 but we have a piece of it here in the edited podcast.

00:00:40.720 I spent the weekend wondering what I was going to say to you,

00:00:43.320 and the last thing I wanted to do was convince you that I was right.

00:00:46.600 Because I don't know. I don't know how this ends.

00:00:49.060 But I know what my principles are.

00:00:51.060 And so, how do you answer, is this America first? 0.63

00:00:57.100 Is this in our national interest?

00:00:58.780 Is this just?

00:01:00.480 And if we're doing this because of, you know, all of the people that are being enslaved or killed,

00:01:06.200 why aren't we in Sudan?

00:01:08.100 I had to answer all those questions this weekend just so I knew what I believed,

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00:03:47.840 Jason, you have any more charts to show us here?

00:03:50.700 So I've got what it took in the Venezuela compound. 0.73

00:03:54.880 And it's really interesting when you think about what the kind of hardware that was used to harden Venezuela and Maduro versus later an upgraded version of that for Iran.

00:04:06.080 I want you to take a look at this.

00:04:07.140 Producer Matt, throw this up really quick.

00:04:09.120 I think this goes to my point on a bigger vision.

00:04:14.640 What is Trump's bigger vision?

00:04:17.100 And that is crink.

00:04:19.720 China, Russia, Iran, North Korea.

00:04:23.280 Crink.

00:04:23.600 And when you understand his bigger vision of building a more peaceful, robust West and reducing the power of crink, this strike over the weekend really makes an impact. 0.98

00:04:42.760 And this is just one of the impacts.

00:04:45.060 Showing what happened in North Korea, then how they upgraded everything in Iran and how well that worked.

00:04:50.700 I think you meant Venezuela, not North Korea.

00:04:53.740 Yeah, Venezuela.

00:04:54.980 Sorry, yeah, Venezuela.

00:04:56.280 So in Venezuela, they had multiple – so we were just talking about this, the insiders and I were – about this is one of those areas that was considered –

00:05:03.100 Producer Matt, throw that back up really quick.

00:05:04.620 This is one of those areas that was supposed to be so hardened that it was basically untouchable.

00:05:09.140 Now, they did this, the Venezuelans, they hardened it. 0.90

00:05:11.860 It's a surgical strike.

00:05:12.840 Like, it's not a shock and awe, we're just taking out everything.

00:05:16.180 It's very specific.

00:05:17.120 Now, they did this, or the Venezuelans tried to repel something like this with Chinese, a serviced Arab missile system called the HQ-9 and the Russian S-300 system.

00:05:29.360 Now, they're specifically designed to thwart stealth technology.

00:05:34.320 That's the entire reason that you get them is because of that.

00:05:37.160 Well, that was proven ineffective.

00:05:39.480 So the Iranians, what they decided to do was – and I'll throw this back up again – was to harden this unhittable area with upgraded versions of what was in Venezuela. 1.00

00:05:50.460 So they got the HQ-9B from China.

00:05:54.060 They got the S-400 system from the Russians.

00:05:57.440 These were supposedly designed to go after stealth aircraft and to make their area the hardened of hard areas to where you cannot do anything about.

00:06:07.160 Well, now, we have seen both models of that.

00:06:10.500 And this stuff is – it's being sold and used all over the world as completely ineffective.

00:06:17.080 Completely ineffective.

00:06:18.080 So now, everybody all across the world is wondering what an actual guarantee of safety from nations like China and Russia – what the heck does that even mean this morning?

00:06:29.460 Pretty much nothing.

00:06:30.240 I think that's why you are seeing the typical fence-sitters, the people who are friends but not friends.

00:06:40.900 And they kind of play – India is one of them.

00:06:43.360 They kind of play the middle ground.

00:06:44.880 They play us off of Russia, et cetera, et cetera.

00:06:46.880 I think just militarily speaking – and there's a lot of other reasons for it – but just militarily speaking, we have, through Donald Trump and his use of the military and Pete Hegseth and the way he has put this together with our Joint Chiefs of Staff,

00:07:01.340 they have demonstrated the U.S. military has prowess over the rest of the world unlike anything I think we have had, well, since World War II.

00:07:14.680 And I think we might have been – we are more ahead than we were in World War II from the rest of the world.

00:07:21.280 The only thing that put us way ahead was a nuclear weapon.

00:07:25.180 We had to use that twice, and that was just so deadly.

00:07:28.560 That's not what's putting us ahead, not some big deadly weapon, although we may have one of those.

00:07:33.920 It's the way we're skirting around everyone else's technology that is making us a mofo.

00:07:43.160 And the world is figuring that out.

00:07:46.100 And that's got to be freaking the people in Russia and China out just for the sales.

00:07:55.220 Imagine being a rep that is going to these big defense seminars and these big conventions where people are selling national defense.

00:08:04.260 And imagine the U.S. booth and then the China and Russia booth that is selling all the stuff we've just defeated in two different places.

00:08:13.660 I mean, spectacularly defeated.

00:08:16.440 I don't think we need anything except just a little screen behind us showing what has happened in Venezuela and Iran.

00:08:25.940 Can you imagine trying to sell that stuff against us?

00:08:29.380 I mean, there's no guarantee of any of that, any of that.

00:08:35.060 I want to take you through this list.

00:08:37.720 Thank you, Jason.

00:08:38.600 I want to take you through this list of things that I went through this weekend.

00:08:45.420 Is this America first? 0.98

00:08:49.100 Is this a just war?

00:08:51.080 Is this part of a bigger strategy?

00:08:53.960 What do we have to look out for if things go well?

00:08:59.320 And what do we have to look out for if things go horribly?

00:09:05.320 And, you know, the things that even if it goes well, we saw what's going to happen. 0.93

00:09:09.540 We are going to have things like we had in Austin yesterday, a shooter who is just was just a crazy man.

00:09:15.400 But, you know, he gave his life to Allah and enjoy those virgins, buddy.

00:09:21.080 Enjoy those virgins. 0.97

00:09:23.200 But he gave his life for Allah and killed three people yesterday in Austin, Texas.

00:09:29.160 Those people are here and we have to have a conversation with that.

00:09:33.540 We also need to see, you know, what's happening with our own Congress.

00:09:40.160 You know, Congress has shut off the funding for the Department of Homeland Security.

00:09:44.460 That means TSA.

00:09:47.220 It means lines are going to get longer.

00:09:50.180 It means that scanning will go down.

00:09:54.960 There will be holes in the system because we're not paying the people.

00:09:58.580 And if they don't show up, they don't show up because they're having to work for free.

00:10:02.460 And I don't know if you've noticed this, but those aren't the rich people in our in our society.

00:10:06.620 The people who are working there are clearly being paid a livable wage.

00:10:11.000 And that's about it.

00:10:11.960 And for them to work without income is asking an awful lot.

00:10:17.240 But what are you going to do?

00:10:19.580 The Democrats don't want to fund it.

00:10:21.520 The Democrats should the first thing they should do when they return to town.

00:10:25.620 I think on Wednesday, they're not even working today when they when they return to town.

00:10:31.180 The first thing they should do is fund the Department of Homeland Security because agree or disagree with the war.

00:10:38.100 This is going to make us very vulnerable.

00:10:40.420 And we need all hands on deck right now.

00:10:44.140 By the way, it also defunds the Coast Guard.

00:10:46.340 So don't worry, but nothing comes, nothing comes in on our beaches, nothing at all.

00:10:53.400 But let me take you through one thing of this long list of mine.

00:10:57.260 And that is, what does a win look like?

00:11:00.140 Because that's where you have to start.

00:11:01.900 You don't take any action unless you say, OK, well, what does it look like?

00:11:06.740 We do all this stuff.

00:11:07.920 Before we even start planning it, before I ask any other questions, what does it look like in the end if we if we win?

00:11:16.000 I don't have a grandiose version of of what it looks like if we win.

00:11:22.080 I mean, I guess I guess I guess I guess I do in some ways.

00:11:25.400 It's stable and free and supports the West.

00:11:28.840 OK, that would be nice if it were returned to, you know, the Iran of 1975 and it was stable and Western. 0.91

00:11:36.960 And the intellectuals were there and it became a powerhouse.

00:11:40.700 That would be utopia.

00:11:42.420 Be great.

00:11:43.600 That's not I'm not expecting that.

00:11:46.120 I'm not expecting that.

00:11:47.900 I would settle for a couple of things.

00:11:49.900 And I've got I've got three different versions of what a win looks like.

00:11:54.100 Best, better or or.

00:11:57.260 Yeah, best, better, best.

00:12:00.420 Right.

00:12:00.980 No, I don't remember.

00:12:02.020 How is that?

00:12:02.520 How is that phrase?

00:12:03.260 It's do you know what I'm talking about?

00:12:04.940 Good, great, greatest.

00:12:06.180 It may be.

00:12:07.120 I don't remember.

00:12:07.780 Anyway, here's the greatest that it would be stable.

00:12:11.160 It would free and it would be Western and they would be our allies and they would they'd start to rebuild themselves.

00:12:17.920 We're not there rebuilding it.

00:12:20.180 And they unleash this pent up intellectual power and they become the Persian people and the Iranian people that they've always been, you know, without the oppression.

00:12:30.740 Okay, that would be great.

00:12:32.580 But I will take a stable and more free non-hostile.

00:12:38.060 But what each of these must include when I say, what does a win look like?

00:12:44.220 No nuclear program, none, period.

00:12:48.840 We take all of the cascading.

00:12:55.480 What do you call those things?

00:12:56.520 Where there's enriching uranium.

00:12:58.200 I just talked about it a minute ago.

00:12:59.480 So we take and we get rid of those and we destroy them.

00:13:02.960 Okay.

00:13:03.520 So they don't have, they cannot enrich uranium.

00:13:06.540 We take away all of their ability to produce missiles and enrich uranium and make a bomb.

00:13:12.840 That is, if we can't get that in the end, then we've completely lost, uh, no nukes.

00:13:20.100 This isn't still in my, the best version, stable, free, non-hostile, no nuke capability, no oil to China, no drones to Russia and no terror proxies.

00:13:34.760 That's, I would walk away going, wow, it's stable, it's free or free-ish, maybe not America, but in their own interpretation of that, it's standing on its own two feet, no oil to China, no drones to Russia, no nukes and no terror proxies.

00:13:53.740 That's an absolute slam dunk, but I would take stable and more free, but still, uh, I mean, uh, an Islamic state, I guess if we have to, but no nuclear program and reduced terror proxies, but all of this also has to happen with something else. 0.94

00:14:20.500 And this was Donald Trump's bigger vision.

00:14:22.520 I think this is why, you know, when I was looking into, is this a just war and looking at the just war theory, you, you have to have a plan of success and peace and part.

00:14:38.380 So that's what has to happen in, uh, Iran, but you also have to have a more united Middle East.

00:14:46.340 And Donald Trump, you remember when he, you know, put his thing out with all the hotels and the golf courses and you're like, you're going to make a Trump resort out of Gaza.

00:14:54.640 What are you, that wasn't about that.

00:14:56.900 What that was, was to show the Middle East, look, you can either keep bombing. 0.96

00:15:02.360 You can either keep fighting.

00:15:03.820 You can either keep pouring money and lives down the drain, or we can show you how to make this very, very prosperous.

00:15:11.980 And we don't even really have to show you, you've already done it.

00:15:15.100 You've done it in, you know, the UAE, you've done it in, uh, Dubai, uh, you've done it in Saudi Arabia.

00:15:22.240 You know how to be prosperous.

00:15:23.480 And what happens when your country is prosperous?

00:15:26.840 It's prosperous because it's stable.

00:15:28.980 If you make this a stable region, Egypt, UAE, Saudi Arabia, all of you, all of you can actually be wealthy and prosperous.

00:15:40.820 And your people can get out of this cycle of death, adding Iran to that and actually having this coalition actually hold together is a huge, huge win. 0.99

00:15:54.100 Okay.

00:15:55.760 You also will still have, you'll still have, uh, Qatar. 0.73

00:16:00.880 I don't care what anybody says.

00:16:02.840 Qatar is not our friend. 1.00

00:16:04.540 And soon within, I predict within six to eight months, you're going to see some stuff come out about Qatar that will make that so clear.

00:16:13.080 Anybody who is trying to tell you now Qatar is good. 1.00

00:16:16.000 You won't have to worry about them, um, because it, it's going to be so clear to every American how bad Qatar actually is. 0.99

00:16:24.100 To us here in America.

00:16:26.300 Um, but you'll have Qatar, Iraq, that's going to be real trouble, but hopefully a win looks to me that you have now made this more united middle East to where they're policing their own area.

00:16:40.660 We don't have to be the policeman.

00:16:42.140 It's not us.

00:16:42.860 And we're not nation building.

00:16:46.100 That's to me, that's a win.

00:16:48.520 It doesn't have to be perfect, but it can't involve nukes.

00:16:54.160 It, we have to reduce the terror proxies and we also have to unite the middle East enough to where they're taking care of and policing their own area. 0.72

00:17:04.640 So we don't have to, cause I don't want to be there for more than a few weeks and I don't want any troops on the ground and I don't want a nation build.

00:17:13.580 That's not, that's not America first.

00:17:16.140 This would be America first, which goes to answer that second question. 0.85

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00:17:31.460 Okay.

00:17:32.360 Look at that interest rate.

00:17:33.560 What is it?

00:17:33.920 20, 25%, maybe even higher.

00:17:37.100 That's not normal.

00:17:38.060 And that's not good.

00:17:38.880 And you're never going to get out of it.

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00:18:27.900 Now back to the podcast.

00:18:29.400 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:18:32.080 I come to you today, um, and I want you to hear me clearly.

00:18:40.820 I am not trying to sell you on anything.

00:18:44.140 Uh, I have been down this road so many times over the last 30 years, and I have seen things that I absolutely believed were happening that were not.

00:18:52.940 I think we have been betrayed by our government over and over again, um, and I believe too many people I shouldn't have.

00:19:01.080 Um, I, I started this weekend with why would I give my trust to Donald Trump?

00:19:09.480 Donald Trump is not the Donald Trump of 2016.

00:19:12.720 Uh, Donald Trump did not do this in 2016, but Donald Trump ran and said, no more of these wars.

00:19:19.960 Okay.

00:19:20.320 So I want to get into that here in a second, but when I say Donald Trump is not the Donald Trump of 2016, Donald Trump came in and he just kind of, you know, he's got such a good gut on him.

00:19:31.400 He was like shooting from the gut and you're like, I want to do this.

00:19:33.660 And I'm going to do that.

00:19:35.020 What Donald Trump has done in the last year has been remarkably coordinated and consistent.

00:19:42.580 Now you may not agree with it and that's fine.

00:19:45.040 You may not like it.

00:19:46.740 Um, and that's fine, but you should understand it before you make a judgment on it.

00:19:52.740 And I have, it's my job to try to figure out what the hell is happening and then tell you my opinion on it.

00:20:01.660 I'm not going to give you, well, I guess I will give you my opinion.

00:20:04.780 Cause I'm going to show you how I thought of this, but I don't want to give you my opinion.

00:20:08.240 So you follow my opinion.

00:20:10.180 That's not my goal.

00:20:11.240 My goal is to help you think this through because we all, you cannot just glob onto somebody else's opinion.

00:20:18.880 Okay.

00:20:19.280 You're going to get lost.

00:20:20.380 If you do that, you're going to, if you do that and you do this about feelings or winning or my team versus their team, you're going to get lost and you cannot afford to get lost.

00:20:31.340 So let me start with principle.

00:20:32.600 Number one, can you hate war and still fight one?

00:20:40.620 Yes.

00:20:41.240 And in fact, I believe that is the only moral way to fight a war.

00:20:46.360 I despise war.

00:20:49.280 But this must be done.

00:20:51.740 Okay.

00:20:52.960 There is a difference between loving war and accepting that sometimes you have to fight a war.

00:20:59.200 And I'm not saying this is one of those times.

00:21:01.060 I'm just explaining.

00:21:02.140 Can you hate war and fight one?

00:21:06.080 Yes.

00:21:06.380 A surgeon does not have to love the knife or cutting people up, but he does it because he has to.

00:21:12.760 Any, a nation doesn't love war.

00:21:15.080 If it does, it is already become something dark and evil, but a nation that refuses to act when evil calcifies into permanence is not peaceful.

00:21:26.000 That's not, that make you peaceful.

00:21:27.340 That makes you negligent.

00:21:28.520 So yes, being pro-peace and being willing to fight can coexist.

00:21:34.720 In fact, I believe they must.

00:21:37.500 And I saw that everywhere.

00:21:38.760 I thought you were pro-peace.

00:21:40.440 I thought you were against war.

00:21:41.980 I am.

00:21:42.980 I am.

00:21:43.840 Can we be adults and have an adult conversation?

00:21:48.760 The deeper question is not, are you for war?

00:21:53.260 The question is, what kind of peace are you trying to secure?

00:21:58.620 And there, there are, there are places where you go, I'm going to accept that peace.

00:22:04.620 And maybe this for you is one of those places, but you can't jump to conclusions instead of just reacting.

00:22:14.700 Like I saw everybody on TV this weekend reacting.

00:22:17.600 Can we think like an adult for a second?

00:22:20.340 First, what is the objective?

00:22:23.740 This kind of goes into the just war theory.

00:22:26.500 And I spent a lot of time on the just war theory.

00:22:28.940 I want to know, is this just, is this right?

00:22:31.880 When do we have to step in and when do we not?

00:22:35.600 Why do we step in here and not in Sudan?

00:22:38.520 Okay.

00:22:39.820 First, is the objective conquest?

00:22:42.380 No.

00:22:43.380 Is it regime change?

00:22:45.500 Not sure.

00:22:47.020 Is it humiliation?

00:22:48.640 No.

00:22:50.080 Is the objective the removal of a destabilizing terror sponsored nuclear seeking command structure

00:22:56.260 that has choked its own people and threatened an entire region?

00:23:00.380 Yes, I believe that's it.

00:23:01.880 But not only that.

00:23:04.100 And that's really important.

00:23:07.580 If the aim is limited and strategic, disable the head of the system that fuels regional chaos,

00:23:15.660 then it is categorically different from marching divisions into a country to rebuild that country in our image.

00:23:24.340 Iraq was nation building.

00:23:26.140 Okay.

00:23:28.020 This appears at this point to be decapitation and deterrence.

00:23:31.800 You'll notice that he has not dictated that this will not be an Islamic state.

00:23:38.360 Did you notice that?

00:23:41.500 This is not the same as Iraq. 0.98

00:23:44.460 I'm not saying it's better or that you have to agree with it.

00:23:47.940 I'm just, please understand.

00:23:49.240 Again, I'm not trying to convince you of anything.

00:23:51.340 I'm just trying to help you think it through.

00:23:53.620 And I imagine there's going to be a lot of people that disagree with me.

00:23:56.520 And that's okay.

00:23:57.140 My job is to help you think it through, not agree with me.

00:24:01.940 Second thing, was peace attempted first?

00:24:04.600 First, this one matters enormously.

00:24:08.080 You can't just rush into war.

00:24:10.920 And in the past, we have rushed into military action without creating a regional structure capable of sustaining peace afterward.

00:24:18.760 And maybe we haven't exhausted the road to peace.

00:24:25.900 So this one is different.

00:24:28.620 First of all, beginning at Jimmy Carter, we have exhausted peace.

00:24:32.880 I mean, 49 years of peace talks.

00:24:35.400 Okay.

00:24:35.500 And what's different, why I believe Donald Trump did not take this on the first time is because he hadn't done the work.

00:24:46.760 He had done the Abraham Accords, but he had not done the rest of the work that is needed.

00:24:51.840 The Abraham Accords fundamentally altered the Middle East diplomacy. 0.61

00:24:58.000 It brought key Arab states into open normalization with Israel.

00:25:02.920 And for the first time, major Sunni powers publicly aligned around coexistence rather than we got to wipe Israel off the face of the map. 0.86

00:25:13.680 So they kind of joined the Western world and went, we can kind of coexist here.

00:25:18.940 Also, Hamas's military capacity severely degraded since October 7th attacks and also the war in Gaza that shifted the strategic balance in the region.

00:25:30.020 Also, several Arab nations and governments have become stakeholders in stability rather than chaos.

00:25:38.320 They're no longer standing on the sidelines.

00:25:40.740 They are now saying, we want peace.

00:25:43.740 Okay.

00:25:44.320 That's not a small shift.

00:25:46.300 That is a tectonic shift.

00:25:49.220 Here's what we have done in the past.

00:25:50.980 We have gone in and said, we're going to bring peace.

00:25:53.560 We're freedoms on the march.

00:25:54.720 And we're going to bring freedom to these people.

00:25:56.980 You cannot bring freedom to these people.

00:25:58.960 I thought we could in Afghanistan.

00:26:00.540 I even kind of thought we could in Iraq. 1.00

00:26:03.500 That's absolutely idiot, idiocy to think you can bring people freedom. 1.00

00:26:07.740 They must fight for it themselves. 1.00

00:26:10.440 They must want it themselves.

00:26:12.540 So if we were going into nation build, I'm absolutely dead set against it.

00:26:16.860 If you remove a destabilizing regime after regional powers are economically and politically invested in peace, the odds of a vacuum of chaos shrink dramatically.

00:26:31.760 They don't go away.

00:26:32.720 It still could become horrible in the end.

00:26:36.380 This doesn't guarantee success, but it changes the probability curve.

00:26:41.000 Third thing I asked myself, can you be anti-war and still use force effectively?

00:26:51.960 Yes.

00:26:52.540 Look at Donald Trump.

00:26:53.740 This one is key.

00:26:54.780 This is not, can you fight a war and be anti-war?

00:26:57.380 This is, can you be against war and fight it effectively?

00:27:03.660 Donald Trump is not pro-war.

00:27:06.240 I don't care what any of the other pundits say that are now turned on Donald Trump.

00:27:10.320 And I am not here to shovel garbage for, I'm not carrying any weight, any water for Donald Trump.

00:27:17.600 He's a big boy.

00:27:18.620 He can handle himself.

00:27:20.000 Okay.

00:27:20.840 I'm here just to tell you how I think about things and what I have noticed.

00:27:26.480 During his first term, Donald Trump authorized this, uh, the, uh, strike that killed, uh, Soleimani.

00:27:32.840 Okay.

00:27:33.740 That was, this is the guy that was the architect of the Iran regional proxy war.

00:27:39.060 This is the guy who was responsible for killing many U.S. soldiers.

00:27:42.900 Okay.

00:27:43.880 When he did it, people said, going to set the whole Middle East on fire, but it didn't.

00:27:50.580 Then ISIS, ISIS, we, Barack Obama tried to fight ISIS for two terms.

00:27:58.440 Couldn't fight it.

00:27:59.020 Couldn't fight it.

00:27:59.620 Couldn't fight it.

00:28:00.440 Hillary Clinton goes over.

00:28:01.680 She actually helps create it, make it more powerful. 0.77

00:28:04.380 I mean, it was horrible.

00:28:06.180 Remember ISIS was burning Christians in cages and we did nothing about it. 0.60

00:28:12.320 Donald Trump, they were killing our soldiers.

00:28:14.600 And Donald Trump said, we got to do this.

00:28:16.480 And all the generals said, it's going to take us two years. 0.99

00:28:19.540 And he said, bull crap. 0.99

00:28:20.920 It's going to take us two years. 0.99

00:28:22.160 Is there anybody who has less than a two year plan?

00:28:24.840 That's what he found raising cane.

00:28:27.060 General cane came in and said, I can get it done in four weeks.

00:28:29.880 And he explained the plan. 0.99

00:28:32.540 And Donald Trump said, you're either crazy or you're my guy. 0.99

00:28:36.640 Uh, and he convinced him he wasn't crazy. 0.98

00:28:39.500 And what happened?

00:28:40.860 We wiped ISIS out.

00:28:43.060 The control of ISIS collapsed almost overnight.

00:28:46.320 Okay.

00:28:47.280 Far, far, far faster than even the most optimistic people predicted possible because Donald Trump

00:28:53.700 started to surround himself with the people who knew what they were doing. 0.97

00:28:57.020 weren't part of the system of bull crap and we're fighting to win. 0.98

00:29:03.160 Okay. 0.99

00:29:04.880 And that's when the message was sent by him.

00:29:07.660 It was clear.

00:29:09.500 Restraint does not mean weakness.

00:29:14.860 There is a pattern here.

00:29:16.560 However, he disdains prolonged occupation paired with a willingness to use unrelenting, overwhelming, precise force with a great strategy.

00:29:31.360 That's not neocon nation building.

00:29:34.320 Okay.

00:29:34.600 That is completely different than what we've did.

00:29:37.780 This is coercive leverage.

00:29:39.800 Fourth question, the capability that we have, does that matter morally?

00:29:50.160 Yes, it does.

00:29:52.100 I don't believe in a fair fight when it comes to war.

00:29:54.440 I don't want a fair fight when it comes to war.

00:29:56.760 I want to be so overwhelmingly powerful that it takes the oxygen out of the lungs of our enemies all over the world.

00:30:05.120 And they go, oh my gosh, don't ever mess with them.

00:30:07.980 That's the way to fight war. 0.81

00:30:10.840 Now, one of the just war criteria is the probability of success.

00:30:16.300 If you launch a war that you cannot win, you are not moral.

00:30:22.540 You are reckless.

00:30:24.280 If this president had demonstrated that when he uses force, it's targeted, short duration, strategically defined, followed by negotiation, then the moral calculus shifts.

00:30:39.940 A limited strike backed by regional diplomatic architecture is not the same species of action as open-ended occupation boots on the ground.

00:30:49.660 But in that, how we all get into all these foreign wars, I ask myself, all these forever wars.

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00:31:04.120 Jack Carr is with us.

00:31:05.420 Jack is a military operator himself, best-selling author of the Terminal List series.

00:31:12.940 You can also, he's also the executive producer of that series on TV.

00:31:17.100 If you've never watched it, you've never read the Terminal List, you need to.

00:31:19.480 Um, but he is also, uh, the author of a book, a nonfiction book called, uh, targeted Beirut.

00:31:25.800 And he came out with this and this is, uh, really kind of the genesis of how all of the, how we got here.

00:31:33.980 And I wanted to talk to Jack about, you know, the operation, uh, that happened this weekend and is still going on.

00:31:40.720 Donald Trump just said the big wave is yet to come in war with Iran.

00:31:46.480 Um, what he thinks about what's happening, uh, you know, uh, what the things that happened maybe this weekend that the average person might've, um, missed.

00:31:56.940 And also ask him as a fiction writer, the most likely way this ends.

00:32:01.220 But first let me talk to him about, you know, the setup.

00:32:04.580 Why is this happening?

00:32:05.540 You know, if you look at targeted Beirut, Jack, um, explain this situation in that context.

00:32:12.960 Well, Beirut really was in our response to what happened in Beirut in 1983 was so pivotal to everything that was going to happen afterward.

00:32:20.720 Meaning we had an attack on our embassy in April of 1983, killed 63 people, 17 Americans.

00:32:27.260 And then that led to the October, uh, bombing of the barracks and headquarters building of our Marines there who were there as peacekeepers that killed 241.

00:32:35.540 Servicemen.

00:32:36.560 Now it taught Iran a couple of things in particular.

00:32:39.700 It taught them one, that terrorism works and two, that it works even better through proxies because in the aftermath of that event, the Reagan administration did a lot of tough talk.

00:32:49.500 But then in early 1984, they left the region.

00:32:53.600 So that taught not just Iran, but, and not just the region really, but the world, uh, that terrorism works. 0.70

00:32:59.680 So how do we responded differently back then?

00:33:01.580 Um, the, the history moving forward from 1983 would have been vastly different because there is a direct line between that and September 11th, 2001.

00:33:12.440 But I was not surprised to wake up on Saturday morning to a host of text messages, uh, letting me know that, uh, military operations had started against Iran.

00:33:21.540 And, uh, my first thought was really one of, uh, sadness.

00:33:25.640 Well, it wasn't, it wasn't unexpected, of course, because the, uh, the maximum pressure campaign against Iran was really never going to work because the three things that were non-negotiable, uh, Iran acquiring nuclear weapons, the ballistic missile program, and their support of terrorist organizations through proxies.

00:33:42.360 Any, any, any acquiescence, uh, to any of those would make the regime look weak.

00:33:48.380 And they've really been in power since 1979 through coercion, fear, threat of violence, and actual violence on any protests.

00:33:56.920 And we saw that most recently here in January.

00:33:59.520 So, uh, it may be sad because diplomacy had failed, also covert action had failed.

00:34:04.340 So any covert action we'd attempted over the last year or through in previous administrations over the past decades, that has failed also.

00:34:11.940 And now we're in a full scale, uh, military engagement with Iran.

00:34:15.460 So, you know, I, I, I saw these people and I would love it if, you know, if, if we could have all come to the negotiating table and work something out.

00:34:23.120 But I saw people say, you've got to give negotiation a chance 49 years, Jack.

00:34:28.120 Right.

00:34:28.660 And, and it's the, you know, the, the, the exact definition of insanity.

00:34:33.180 Follow me.

00:34:34.680 Jimmy Carter said, this can't stand.

00:34:36.720 They got to stop.

00:34:37.600 Ronald Reagan said, they got to stop.

00:34:39.260 This can't stand HW Bush.

00:34:41.040 They can't, it's got to stop.

00:34:42.500 We got to get to the negotiating table.

00:34:44.280 Clinton said that W Bush said that Obama said that Trump said that in the first term, Biden said that, I mean, at some point you're like, this is insane.

00:34:53.120 We've tried giving them billions of dollars.

00:34:57.340 We've tried holding money back.

00:34:59.160 We've tried carrots and sticks and nothing works.

00:35:02.640 It's just that this president is the first one to say, I'm not kicking the can down to the next president.

00:35:07.860 It's over.

00:35:09.340 Exactly.

00:35:10.280 So each of those, each of those administrations, uh, from both parties have had the, the same red line.

00:35:15.900 They've had the same policy pillar of our foreign policy in regards to Iran, the same one.

00:35:20.680 They just had different ways of dealing with it.

00:35:23.100 Um, and none of them effective.

00:35:24.860 Some of them actually, uh, uh, helped, uh, Iran get either more powerful, uh, or gave them more options when it came to, to, uh, building up these different weapons programs, uh, to, uh, to crushing any, uh, popular uprising or, or protests.

00:35:40.320 So it is, uh, it, I'm not surprised that we got to this point.

00:35:46.220 Uh, and we should have learned from Al Qaeda when someone declares war on you, uh, pay attention.

00:35:52.340 Al Qaeda did it in 1996, 1998, attacked the USS Cole, of course.

00:35:57.220 And, uh, and none of those things made us treat, uh, that terrorist organization as anything other than a, uh, uh, essentially a criminal enterprise.

00:36:06.220 And only after September 11th, 2001, where our hand was essentially forced to treat it as a military problem.

00:36:11.680 When people declare war on you and tell you that they want to destroy you, uh, you probably don't want that person to have a nuclear weapon or to have options, uh, that can, uh, can lead to your demise.

00:36:21.500 So, um, you know, you, you look at, uh, you look at everything that has been going on and, you know, everybody's trying to make it about, they were close to a nuclear weapon.

00:36:32.900 I've heard that for 30 years.

00:36:33.960 I'll believe it when I see that.

00:36:35.460 Um, I think this is, I think, um, that this is much bigger than that.

00:36:43.140 This is about Trump redesigning the entire world, uh, and going after, uh, crank, um, to take the eye, you know, there is no eye in team.

00:36:55.520 Well, the access team is crank and he's taking the eye out of that, which hurts, uh, oil, uh, for, uh, China hurts money through the oil for Russia.

00:37:07.080 Also, you know, they've been, Iran's been giving them all the drones, et cetera, et cetera.

00:37:12.220 I mean, it really starts to break crank apart.

00:37:16.920 Um, and I think this is my, I think to look at this just as Iran, I think is, you'll never understand why we did this. 0.97

00:37:25.120 Do you believe that's true or am I wrong?

00:37:27.460 Oh, I think you're a hundred percent sure.

00:37:28.800 And I've been, uh, up before dawn on shows and, uh, the last couple of days just been going all day.

00:37:33.580 So I haven't been able to, uh, to look at or listen to or read your analysis.

00:37:37.340 So I was really excited to hear your analysis of what's been going on, but you're absolutely right.

00:37:42.560 Um, with China buying so much oil from Iran, getting around sanctions from the United States, uh, from other allied countries.

00:37:50.340 And then there's this $400 billion investment that China has in Iran.

00:37:55.160 And part of that is technological, meaning they are sharing at, well, selling, uh, the, the apparatus by which they control their populace in China to the Iranians. 0.85

00:38:05.740 Um, and that's really been propping up this regime.

00:38:08.880 So without, uh, without that in play, and, uh, it really allows us now, well, we'll see how this plays out.

00:38:17.040 But, uh, to focus on the Pacific, on China, on Taiwan, on the semiconductors that are built in, in Taiwan, uh, and then the Russian side as well.

00:38:26.620 So you're exactly right.

00:38:28.140 This is not just about Iran.

00:38:30.140 I would be surprised if, uh, if, uh, we read something in the future that, uh, where someone makes that, that argument down the line, because right out of the gate here, I'm not seeing that.

00:38:39.320 This is definitely a reshuffling of the world order, uh, and really putting Russia and China on, on, uh, uh, we'll bring, we'll bring them into this, into this fold, realigning some of these alliances and allowing us to, to focus on Russia, China, and Iran, not just the Middle East as we have for the previous 25 plus years. 0.70

00:39:00.100 Jack, we've talked to each other for years.

00:39:02.400 And I, I've always loved talking to fiction writers because you can be honest, you're not playing politics.

00:39:07.060 You have to come up with a scenario that in the end may be more believable than actual reality because fiction has got to make sense.

00:39:16.380 Um, and so you look at things, um, and you're like, what makes the most sense?

00:39:20.900 What is most likely to happen if this, this, and this happened?

00:39:25.660 Have you had time to noodle this on what is the most likely outcome of all of this?

00:39:31.340 I have.

00:39:32.400 And, uh, it's really, it comes down to cope is not a course of action.

00:39:35.760 Hope is not a good strategy.

00:39:37.660 And what we're seeing right now, uh, and I'm going to be very curious as to how this plays out in the weeks, months, and even, even years ahead, is that if this is a decapitation, a regime decapitation, if this is a, uh, regime alteration or the hope of a regime alteration that, uh, brings Iran into the U S camp and away from the China and Russia camp.

00:39:56.900 Um, if we had, uh, if we had, or the, uh, Israelis had, or some other entity had a primary, a secondary, a tertiary person that we've been back channeling with who has the support of the military, who can purge that military and intelligence apparatus of those loyal to the regime and bring then Iran into the U S camp. 0.71

00:40:18.060 Um, I would think we've done that.

00:40:20.680 And I would think that we've learned from the past, uh, 20 years in Afghanistan and all our years in Iraq, because we have people in the administration who fought at the tactical level in those countries.

00:40:31.640 Uh, but once again, I don't know.

00:40:34.160 And like you, I've, uh, I am, we've, we've heard so much about regime change and weapons of mass destruction and all of these things.

00:40:40.380 So I'll be very curious to know what lessons they took from Iraq and Afghanistan and applied to this present problem set.

00:40:47.820 So, uh, is there someone waiting in the wings that is going to bring Iran into the U S camp or not, or are they just hoping that someone's going to step up? 0.56

00:40:57.100 I'm very curious as to, uh, as to that.

00:40:59.740 You know, we have defunded, the Democrats have defunded DHS.

00:41:05.080 That means TSA TSA, I think ran out of money this weekend.

00:41:09.240 Um, that means the coast guard.

00:41:11.400 Uh, and, uh, you know, I can't imagine if I were in Congress, I don't care if I agreed with this war or disagreed with this war.

00:41:17.920 I would be worried that we were going to be hit in internally because we have so many people inside, you know, we already saw the crazy guy, you know, wearing the, you know, owned by Allah t-shirt. 0.99

00:41:29.740 And the Iranian flag underneath, uh, that shirt, um, we saw shooters because of this action up in Canada over the weekend.

00:41:39.840 Uh, how likely is it?

00:41:41.780 What should we be preparing for here in the mainland?

00:41:44.620 Because honestly, Jack, I have to tell you, I could come up with a thousand scenarios that about 25 people could do that would put us on our knees within a week.

00:41:54.000 And I'm shocked that nobody has done them.

00:41:57.200 Um, I know how, how, I know how, why hasn't that happened?

00:42:02.100 And how, how likely is it to now happen because of stuff like this?

00:42:07.280 Well, it's, it's, it is, uh, it certainly takes the, the attention of people out there, um, that are just looking for a reason to lash out.

00:42:14.520 So there's, there's different categories here, but, uh, the sleeper cells are the ones that we typically talk about.

00:42:19.480 Um, and, uh, that's certainly possible, especially with the wide open borders of the, the, the previous years.

00:42:25.900 So we have that to think about something that's really thought through, um, that hits multiple targets, um, uh, at any given time across the United States,

00:42:36.000 or you have that lone wolf type person that's radicalized online, like, uh, maybe like we saw with, with a Charlie Kirk, just someone who wants to lash out and, and it's been made acceptable for them to do so because of the, uh, the insane rhetoric that's floating around out there on these platforms that really democratized, uh, free speech, meaning you don't have to invest anything in what you say anymore.

00:42:57.840 You can just say it, or a bot can say it, or an algorithm can feed it to you.

00:43:02.660 Um, so we're in a very dangerous time.

00:43:04.540 You have to invest nothing in order to, uh, destroy or degrade what was once an extremely proud country, the United States of America.

00:43:13.520 So it's, uh, I don't have a good answer on that front.

00:43:17.200 It just, uh, it makes me sad for the future, but these platforms are tools and any tool is a weapon.

00:43:23.080 So, uh, I would definitely say that, uh, we need to remain vigilant, but not just because of what's happening in Iran.

00:43:28.880 Uh, these things can happen at any given time for any reason.

00:43:32.460 So, uh, people really need to, to take, take, uh, responsibility for, uh, for their, really their own protection and that of their families.

00:43:40.440 Somebody said on TV, you know, they, they had enough material to make a dirty nuke and get it into the U S.

00:43:45.500 How difficult is that?

00:43:46.660 Uh, not as difficult as one would think, um, because it's really just, uh, a normal explosive that one can, uh, can make with, uh, material on the open market.

00:43:58.200 And that's just placed near, uh, whether it's, uh, uh, uh, nuclear debris, uh, waste, whatever there's, there's all sorts of ways to do it at all sorts of different scales.

00:44:10.760 So, um, at that end, but you'll probably kill more people in a bunch of other different ways.

00:44:16.020 That one just really uses the imagination of the public.

00:44:19.100 Yeah.

00:44:19.760 Yeah.

00:44:20.360 Yeah.

00:44:21.040 Jack, thank you.

00:44:22.040 Appreciate it.

00:44:23.120 God bless you.

00:44:23.720 We'll talk again.

00:44:24.640 You too.

00:44:25.120 You bet.

00:44:25.480 Take care.

00:44:26.040 Bye-bye.

00:44:26.540 Na, na, na, na, na, na.

The Glenn Beck Program - March 02, 2026

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