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00:03:47.840Jason, you have any more charts to show us here?
00:03:50.700So I've got what it took in the Venezuela compound.
00:03:54.880And it's really interesting when you think about what the kind of hardware that was used to harden Venezuela and Maduro versus later an upgraded version of that for Iran.
00:04:23.600And when you understand his bigger vision of building a more peaceful, robust West and reducing the power of crink, this strike over the weekend really makes an impact.
00:04:56.280So in Venezuela, they had multiple – so we were just talking about this, the insiders and I were – about this is one of those areas that was considered –
00:05:03.100Producer Matt, throw that back up really quick.
00:05:04.620This is one of those areas that was supposed to be so hardened that it was basically untouchable.
00:05:09.140Now, they did this, the Venezuelans, they hardened it.
00:05:17.120Now, they did this, or the Venezuelans tried to repel something like this with Chinese, a serviced Arab missile system called the HQ-9 and the Russian S-300 system.
00:05:29.360Now, they're specifically designed to thwart stealth technology.
00:05:34.320That's the entire reason that you get them is because of that.
00:05:39.480So the Iranians, what they decided to do was – and I'll throw this back up again – was to harden this unhittable area with upgraded versions of what was in Venezuela.
00:05:54.060They got the S-400 system from the Russians.
00:05:57.440These were supposedly designed to go after stealth aircraft and to make their area the hardened of hard areas to where you cannot do anything about.
00:06:07.160Well, now, we have seen both models of that.
00:06:10.500And this stuff is – it's being sold and used all over the world as completely ineffective.
00:06:18.080So now, everybody all across the world is wondering what an actual guarantee of safety from nations like China and Russia – what the heck does that even mean this morning?
00:06:44.880They play us off of Russia, et cetera, et cetera.
00:06:46.880I think just militarily speaking – and there's a lot of other reasons for it – but just militarily speaking, we have, through Donald Trump and his use of the military and Pete Hegseth and the way he has put this together with our Joint Chiefs of Staff,
00:07:01.340they have demonstrated the U.S. military has prowess over the rest of the world unlike anything I think we have had, well, since World War II.
00:07:14.680And I think we might have been – we are more ahead than we were in World War II from the rest of the world.
00:07:21.280The only thing that put us way ahead was a nuclear weapon.
00:07:25.180We had to use that twice, and that was just so deadly.
00:07:28.560That's not what's putting us ahead, not some big deadly weapon, although we may have one of those.
00:07:33.920It's the way we're skirting around everyone else's technology that is making us a mofo.
00:12:20.180And they unleash this pent up intellectual power and they become the Persian people and the Iranian people that they've always been, you know, without the oppression.
00:13:03.520So they don't have, they cannot enrich uranium.
00:13:06.540We take away all of their ability to produce missiles and enrich uranium and make a bomb.
00:13:12.840That is, if we can't get that in the end, then we've completely lost, uh, no nukes.
00:13:20.100This isn't still in my, the best version, stable, free, non-hostile, no nuke capability, no oil to China, no drones to Russia and no terror proxies.
00:13:34.760That's, I would walk away going, wow, it's stable, it's free or free-ish, maybe not America, but in their own interpretation of that, it's standing on its own two feet, no oil to China, no drones to Russia, no nukes and no terror proxies.
00:13:53.740That's an absolute slam dunk, but I would take stable and more free, but still, uh, I mean, uh, an Islamic state, I guess if we have to, but no nuclear program and reduced terror proxies, but all of this also has to happen with something else.
00:14:20.500And this was Donald Trump's bigger vision.
00:14:22.520I think this is why, you know, when I was looking into, is this a just war and looking at the just war theory, you, you have to have a plan of success and peace and part.
00:14:38.380So that's what has to happen in, uh, Iran, but you also have to have a more united Middle East.
00:14:46.340And Donald Trump, you remember when he, you know, put his thing out with all the hotels and the golf courses and you're like, you're going to make a Trump resort out of Gaza.
00:15:28.980If you make this a stable region, Egypt, UAE, Saudi Arabia, all of you, all of you can actually be wealthy and prosperous.
00:15:40.820And your people can get out of this cycle of death, adding Iran to that and actually having this coalition actually hold together is a huge, huge win.
00:16:26.300Um, but you'll have Qatar, Iraq, that's going to be real trouble, but hopefully a win looks to me that you have now made this more united middle East to where they're policing their own area.
00:16:48.520It doesn't have to be perfect, but it can't involve nukes.
00:16:54.160It, we have to reduce the terror proxies and we also have to unite the middle East enough to where they're taking care of and policing their own area.
00:17:04.640So we don't have to, cause I don't want to be there for more than a few weeks and I don't want any troops on the ground and I don't want a nation build.
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00:18:32.080I come to you today, um, and I want you to hear me clearly.
00:18:40.820I am not trying to sell you on anything.
00:18:44.140Uh, I have been down this road so many times over the last 30 years, and I have seen things that I absolutely believed were happening that were not.
00:18:52.940I think we have been betrayed by our government over and over again, um, and I believe too many people I shouldn't have.
00:19:01.080Um, I, I started this weekend with why would I give my trust to Donald Trump?
00:19:09.480Donald Trump is not the Donald Trump of 2016.
00:19:12.720Uh, Donald Trump did not do this in 2016, but Donald Trump ran and said, no more of these wars.
00:19:20.320So I want to get into that here in a second, but when I say Donald Trump is not the Donald Trump of 2016, Donald Trump came in and he just kind of, you know, he's got such a good gut on him.
00:19:31.400He was like shooting from the gut and you're like, I want to do this.
00:20:20.380If you do that, you're going to, if you do that and you do this about feelings or winning or my team versus their team, you're going to get lost and you cannot afford to get lost.
00:21:15.080If it does, it is already become something dark and evil, but a nation that refuses to act when evil calcifies into permanence is not peaceful.
00:24:35.500And what's different, why I believe Donald Trump did not take this on the first time is because he hadn't done the work.
00:24:46.760He had done the Abraham Accords, but he had not done the rest of the work that is needed.
00:24:51.840The Abraham Accords fundamentally altered the Middle East diplomacy.
00:24:58.000It brought key Arab states into open normalization with Israel.
00:25:02.920And for the first time, major Sunni powers publicly aligned around coexistence rather than we got to wipe Israel off the face of the map.
00:25:13.680So they kind of joined the Western world and went, we can kind of coexist here.
00:25:18.940Also, Hamas's military capacity severely degraded since October 7th attacks and also the war in Gaza that shifted the strategic balance in the region.
00:25:30.020Also, several Arab nations and governments have become stakeholders in stability rather than chaos.
00:25:38.320They're no longer standing on the sidelines.
00:26:12.540So if we were going into nation build, I'm absolutely dead set against it.
00:26:16.860If you remove a destabilizing regime after regional powers are economically and politically invested in peace, the odds of a vacuum of chaos shrink dramatically.
00:30:24.280If this president had demonstrated that when he uses force, it's targeted, short duration, strategically defined, followed by negotiation, then the moral calculus shifts.
00:30:39.940A limited strike backed by regional diplomatic architecture is not the same species of action as open-ended occupation boots on the ground.
00:30:49.660But in that, how we all get into all these foreign wars, I ask myself, all these forever wars.
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00:31:05.420Jack is a military operator himself, best-selling author of the Terminal List series.
00:31:12.940You can also, he's also the executive producer of that series on TV.
00:31:17.100If you've never watched it, you've never read the Terminal List, you need to.
00:31:19.480Um, but he is also, uh, the author of a book, a nonfiction book called, uh, targeted Beirut.
00:31:25.800And he came out with this and this is, uh, really kind of the genesis of how all of the, how we got here.
00:31:33.980And I wanted to talk to Jack about, you know, the operation, uh, that happened this weekend and is still going on.
00:31:40.720Donald Trump just said the big wave is yet to come in war with Iran.
00:31:46.480Um, what he thinks about what's happening, uh, you know, uh, what the things that happened maybe this weekend that the average person might've, um, missed.
00:31:56.940And also ask him as a fiction writer, the most likely way this ends.
00:32:01.220But first let me talk to him about, you know, the setup.
00:32:05.540You know, if you look at targeted Beirut, Jack, um, explain this situation in that context.
00:32:12.960Well, Beirut really was in our response to what happened in Beirut in 1983 was so pivotal to everything that was going to happen afterward.
00:32:20.720Meaning we had an attack on our embassy in April of 1983, killed 63 people, 17 Americans.
00:32:27.260And then that led to the October, uh, bombing of the barracks and headquarters building of our Marines there who were there as peacekeepers that killed 241.
00:32:36.560Now it taught Iran a couple of things in particular.
00:32:39.700It taught them one, that terrorism works and two, that it works even better through proxies because in the aftermath of that event, the Reagan administration did a lot of tough talk.
00:32:49.500But then in early 1984, they left the region.
00:32:53.600So that taught not just Iran, but, and not just the region really, but the world, uh, that terrorism works.
00:32:59.680So how do we responded differently back then?
00:33:01.580Um, the, the history moving forward from 1983 would have been vastly different because there is a direct line between that and September 11th, 2001.
00:33:12.440But I was not surprised to wake up on Saturday morning to a host of text messages, uh, letting me know that, uh, military operations had started against Iran.
00:33:21.540And, uh, my first thought was really one of, uh, sadness.
00:33:25.640Well, it wasn't, it wasn't unexpected, of course, because the, uh, the maximum pressure campaign against Iran was really never going to work because the three things that were non-negotiable, uh, Iran acquiring nuclear weapons, the ballistic missile program, and their support of terrorist organizations through proxies.
00:33:42.360Any, any, any acquiescence, uh, to any of those would make the regime look weak.
00:33:48.380And they've really been in power since 1979 through coercion, fear, threat of violence, and actual violence on any protests.
00:33:56.920And we saw that most recently here in January.
00:33:59.520So, uh, it may be sad because diplomacy had failed, also covert action had failed.
00:34:04.340So any covert action we'd attempted over the last year or through in previous administrations over the past decades, that has failed also.
00:34:11.940And now we're in a full scale, uh, military engagement with Iran.
00:34:15.460So, you know, I, I, I saw these people and I would love it if, you know, if, if we could have all come to the negotiating table and work something out.
00:34:23.120But I saw people say, you've got to give negotiation a chance 49 years, Jack.
00:34:42.500We got to get to the negotiating table.
00:34:44.280Clinton said that W Bush said that Obama said that Trump said that in the first term, Biden said that, I mean, at some point you're like, this is insane.
00:34:53.120We've tried giving them billions of dollars.
00:35:24.860Some of them actually, uh, uh, helped, uh, Iran get either more powerful, uh, or gave them more options when it came to, to, uh, building up these different weapons programs, uh, to, uh, to crushing any, uh, popular uprising or, or protests.
00:35:40.320So it is, uh, it, I'm not surprised that we got to this point.
00:35:46.220Uh, and we should have learned from Al Qaeda when someone declares war on you, uh, pay attention.
00:35:52.340Al Qaeda did it in 1996, 1998, attacked the USS Cole, of course.
00:35:57.220And, uh, and none of those things made us treat, uh, that terrorist organization as anything other than a, uh, uh, essentially a criminal enterprise.
00:36:06.220And only after September 11th, 2001, where our hand was essentially forced to treat it as a military problem.
00:36:11.680When people declare war on you and tell you that they want to destroy you, uh, you probably don't want that person to have a nuclear weapon or to have options, uh, that can, uh, can lead to your demise.
00:36:21.500So, um, you know, you, you look at, uh, you look at everything that has been going on and, you know, everybody's trying to make it about, they were close to a nuclear weapon.
00:36:35.460Um, I think this is, I think, um, that this is much bigger than that.
00:36:43.140This is about Trump redesigning the entire world, uh, and going after, uh, crank, um, to take the eye, you know, there is no eye in team.
00:36:55.520Well, the access team is crank and he's taking the eye out of that, which hurts, uh, oil, uh, for, uh, China hurts money through the oil for Russia.
00:37:07.080Also, you know, they've been, Iran's been giving them all the drones, et cetera, et cetera.
00:37:12.220I mean, it really starts to break crank apart.
00:37:16.920Um, and I think this is my, I think to look at this just as Iran, I think is, you'll never understand why we did this.
00:37:25.120Do you believe that's true or am I wrong?
00:37:27.460Oh, I think you're a hundred percent sure.
00:37:28.800And I've been, uh, up before dawn on shows and, uh, the last couple of days just been going all day.
00:37:33.580So I haven't been able to, uh, to look at or listen to or read your analysis.
00:37:37.340So I was really excited to hear your analysis of what's been going on, but you're absolutely right.
00:37:42.560Um, with China buying so much oil from Iran, getting around sanctions from the United States, uh, from other allied countries.
00:37:50.340And then there's this $400 billion investment that China has in Iran.
00:37:55.160And part of that is technological, meaning they are sharing at, well, selling, uh, the, the apparatus by which they control their populace in China to the Iranians.
00:38:05.740Um, and that's really been propping up this regime.
00:38:08.880So without, uh, without that in play, and, uh, it really allows us now, well, we'll see how this plays out.
00:38:17.040But, uh, to focus on the Pacific, on China, on Taiwan, on the semiconductors that are built in, in Taiwan, uh, and then the Russian side as well.
00:38:30.140I would be surprised if, uh, if, uh, we read something in the future that, uh, where someone makes that, that argument down the line, because right out of the gate here, I'm not seeing that.
00:38:39.320This is definitely a reshuffling of the world order, uh, and really putting Russia and China on, on, uh, uh, we'll bring, we'll bring them into this, into this fold, realigning some of these alliances and allowing us to, to focus on Russia, China, and Iran, not just the Middle East as we have for the previous 25 plus years.
00:39:00.100Jack, we've talked to each other for years.
00:39:02.400And I, I've always loved talking to fiction writers because you can be honest, you're not playing politics.
00:39:07.060You have to come up with a scenario that in the end may be more believable than actual reality because fiction has got to make sense.
00:39:16.380Um, and so you look at things, um, and you're like, what makes the most sense?
00:39:20.900What is most likely to happen if this, this, and this happened?
00:39:25.660Have you had time to noodle this on what is the most likely outcome of all of this?
00:39:37.660And what we're seeing right now, uh, and I'm going to be very curious as to how this plays out in the weeks, months, and even, even years ahead, is that if this is a decapitation, a regime decapitation, if this is a, uh, regime alteration or the hope of a regime alteration that, uh, brings Iran into the U S camp and away from the China and Russia camp.
00:39:56.900Um, if we had, uh, if we had, or the, uh, Israelis had, or some other entity had a primary, a secondary, a tertiary person that we've been back channeling with who has the support of the military, who can purge that military and intelligence apparatus of those loyal to the regime and bring then Iran into the U S camp.
00:40:20.680And I would think that we've learned from the past, uh, 20 years in Afghanistan and all our years in Iraq, because we have people in the administration who fought at the tactical level in those countries.
00:40:34.160And like you, I've, uh, I am, we've, we've heard so much about regime change and weapons of mass destruction and all of these things.
00:40:40.380So I'll be very curious to know what lessons they took from Iraq and Afghanistan and applied to this present problem set.
00:40:47.820So, uh, is there someone waiting in the wings that is going to bring Iran into the U S camp or not, or are they just hoping that someone's going to step up?
00:40:57.100I'm very curious as to, uh, as to that.
00:40:59.740You know, we have defunded, the Democrats have defunded DHS.
00:41:05.080That means TSA TSA, I think ran out of money this weekend.
00:41:11.400Uh, and, uh, you know, I can't imagine if I were in Congress, I don't care if I agreed with this war or disagreed with this war.
00:41:17.920I would be worried that we were going to be hit in internally because we have so many people inside, you know, we already saw the crazy guy, you know, wearing the, you know, owned by Allah t-shirt.
00:41:29.740And the Iranian flag underneath, uh, that shirt, um, we saw shooters because of this action up in Canada over the weekend.
00:41:41.780What should we be preparing for here in the mainland?
00:41:44.620Because honestly, Jack, I have to tell you, I could come up with a thousand scenarios that about 25 people could do that would put us on our knees within a week.
00:41:54.000And I'm shocked that nobody has done them.
00:41:57.200Um, I know how, how, I know how, why hasn't that happened?
00:42:02.100And how, how likely is it to now happen because of stuff like this?
00:42:07.280Well, it's, it's, it is, uh, it certainly takes the, the attention of people out there, um, that are just looking for a reason to lash out.
00:42:14.520So there's, there's different categories here, but, uh, the sleeper cells are the ones that we typically talk about.
00:42:19.480Um, and, uh, that's certainly possible, especially with the wide open borders of the, the, the previous years.
00:42:25.900So we have that to think about something that's really thought through, um, that hits multiple targets, um, uh, at any given time across the United States,
00:42:36.000or you have that lone wolf type person that's radicalized online, like, uh, maybe like we saw with, with a Charlie Kirk, just someone who wants to lash out and, and it's been made acceptable for them to do so because of the, uh, the insane rhetoric that's floating around out there on these platforms that really democratized, uh, free speech, meaning you don't have to invest anything in what you say anymore.
00:42:57.840You can just say it, or a bot can say it, or an algorithm can feed it to you.
00:43:02.660Um, so we're in a very dangerous time.
00:43:04.540You have to invest nothing in order to, uh, destroy or degrade what was once an extremely proud country, the United States of America.
00:43:13.520So it's, uh, I don't have a good answer on that front.
00:43:17.200It just, uh, it makes me sad for the future, but these platforms are tools and any tool is a weapon.
00:43:23.080So, uh, I would definitely say that, uh, we need to remain vigilant, but not just because of what's happening in Iran.
00:43:28.880Uh, these things can happen at any given time for any reason.
00:43:32.460So, uh, people really need to, to take, take, uh, responsibility for, uh, for their, really their own protection and that of their families.
00:43:40.440Somebody said on TV, you know, they, they had enough material to make a dirty nuke and get it into the U S.
00:43:46.660Uh, not as difficult as one would think, um, because it's really just, uh, a normal explosive that one can, uh, can make with, uh, material on the open market.
00:43:58.200And that's just placed near, uh, whether it's, uh, uh, uh, nuclear debris, uh, waste, whatever there's, there's all sorts of ways to do it at all sorts of different scales.
00:44:10.760So, um, at that end, but you'll probably kill more people in a bunch of other different ways.
00:44:16.020That one just really uses the imagination of the public.