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00:00:00.000 great show today uh really good show we talk about all the important issues including that

00:00:06.020 whole thing apparently that happened uh in the supreme court on abortion stew and i would both

00:00:11.160 like to know i mean this is really putting women out to you know to travel to another state i mean

00:00:16.440 you might have to take a 45 minute airplane ride to kill your child we're just wondering

00:00:21.260 how many abortions does the average person get i mean because i mean being put out once 0.98

00:00:28.860 you know maybe not that big of a problem anyway we'll get into that and so much more

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00:01:48.980 oh my goodness could we just play a couple of holy cow here's cnn 0.96

00:01:58.700 on the slippery slope and i cannot believe that i'm sitting here jim in the year of 2022

00:02:07.020 a right that i was born into a society that had that my mother had that my grandmother had that my

00:02:13.980 great-grandmother's in her lifetime had that the stroke of a pen someone can simply say a fundamental

00:02:20.300 right that is within a zone of privacy that the court has said should be hands-off for the government

00:02:26.140 can you stop for just a second two i am sitting here i can't believe i'm sitting here in 1865

00:02:32.420 you know and a right that i had to own property in fact my my grandfather had my great-grandfather had

00:02:41.680 i mean we've owned these slaves for generations they've been part of our family's wealth let's put

00:02:52.640 it that way and it's one thing in the 1860s 1870 imagine in 1915 right it's been a you know i i mean

00:03:00.740 gosh that's 50 years after i don't know maybe that's uh if it was wrong well then you would

00:03:07.020 overturn it if it's not then you don't 50 years after that's kind of the way this works you know

00:03:11.880 i can't believe that i live in a country where where we've had separate you know movie theaters

00:03:21.500 and drinking fountains we've had them say you know my grandfather my great-grandfather and now

00:03:28.560 we're just gonna change that i i can't believe that right to separate but equal

00:03:36.740 is going away and i remember all of these people on the left back in the 70s saying you know this

00:03:44.040 law had been this way all this time states could manage their own uh access to abortion for the 1.00

00:03:52.040 entire country's history until 1973 and all of a sudden now we're gonna change it that's crazy 0.73

00:03:58.280 that's crazy this is such a dumb argument okay so she goes on to say what's next can be taken away 0.50

00:04:06.540 there are a lot of things now on the chopping block and steve you spoke about an earthquake 0.99

00:04:11.480 well a familiar phrase the slippery slope in the supreme court that which you do in one area could

00:04:16.740 extend to others well fundamental rights include interstate travel include stop interstate travel

00:04:23.580 yeah anytime at any moment at any moment i was thinking just the other day i don't know if we're

00:04:29.720 going to be able to go from texas to oklahoma can we do that will they just put barriers up on all of

00:04:37.300 the interstates and you know look interstate travel has been a really divisive 50 50 political issue

00:04:42.860 forever forever you know people like the republicans don't want you to cross lines of states i mean a

00:04:47.920 small number of people are going to say no interstate travel and that's i mean i'm telling you

00:04:55.900 that and the the divorce that has been wanted by clarence thomas to get out of his marriage with his

00:05:05.960 white wife that he's going to overturn he just doesn't want to tell jimmy he doesn't he's been 0.97

00:05:13.060 looking to well she's white you know what white people that are very bad people are bad i don't 0.98

00:05:17.660 know if you know this i know and so obviously that's the way he's going to get try to get out 0.96

00:05:21.380 of it he doesn't want to he doesn't want to tell her he doesn't want to be married anymore he's going

00:05:24.100 to rule the supreme court to make it illegal so now so now the slippery slope it's coming and you know

00:05:31.520 this was from a boob on on cnn this one is the boob in the white house listen to joe biden radical 0.55

00:05:41.040 decisions if this decision holds it's really quite a radical decision um and again the underlying

00:05:49.560 premise and again i've not had a chance to thoroughly join to the report the decision so

00:05:56.020 definitely comment on it anyway yeah basically says all the decisions related to your private life

00:06:01.720 no who you marry no that's not what it says decide to conceive a child or not whether or not

00:06:06.680 even child stop stop i can't take it well a lot of people are against birth right those people that

00:06:12.280 were overturning the abortion rights do not want children to be born right or something how many

00:06:16.780 times have you walked into a church where they're like you come to us if you're thinking about having

00:06:22.820 a child we'll tell you whether you can have a child or not it's just like those religious people 1.00

00:06:30.140 every sunday every sunday every sunday that's how the message starts i don't know about you i mean

00:06:34.620 look at my church they spend about half the service telling us we have to get a hall pass from them

00:06:41.060 to have children that's the way it works at church all the time now um he said here he he didn't

00:06:48.500 read um the um uh the decision which probably he should have before he um before he talked about it

00:06:56.140 because in it it says this only applies to this particular thing roe versus wade it only applies

00:07:05.880 to this so the slippery slope idea whoops that's uh that's out there um by the way i love this idea

00:07:15.180 that just five people are going to make the decision for the rest of us five people are going to make the

00:07:22.160 decision for the rest of us you know if those five people are following the constitution which is

00:07:30.000 have you ever played monopoly and somebody's like no the person who goes second when they go around

00:07:36.580 each time they get seven hundred dollars when they pass go and you're like no that's not what the

00:07:45.220 rules say rules those are outdated those were made in 1900 that's what they say what don't listen to

00:07:55.260 the manufacturer of monopoly what do they know they couldn't have foreseen our game okay that's as long

00:08:04.160 as we're all playing by the same rules when those five people or nine people when they speak

00:08:13.580 we may not like it but that is law now they can make bad laws i mean not actually sorry they should

00:08:24.240 not make any laws they can say this one's constitutional or this one is not and then they can change that if

00:08:32.980 it's based on bad law but you have to have the argument and if you didn't read the first draft which i

00:08:41.540 don't even know if it's going to become law if that first draft stands it all logically is put out

00:08:51.040 and it is also they use the words of liberal icons who have said this law doesn't work because of this

00:09:01.440 this and this you have to do it the right way okay that that's all this law is and by the way i can't

00:09:10.460 believe majority hang on just a second what this law did in the first place 30 states said no abortion

00:09:22.000 now other states were moving towards liberalizing their laws on abortion but what did they do

00:09:30.960 these nine people decided they're going to take away all of the discussion they're going to force people

00:09:41.560 to do what they say has to be done okay because why because why because they're all talking about the

00:09:52.320 majority no see this is a representative republic we hire people this is the way it should work

00:10:00.740 we hire people with our votes to go and represent us in a world where this works they actually

00:10:08.740 listen to the people and they enact the things that the people want that's congress then the senate

00:10:18.020 is supposed to pay attention to their states which they don't anymore because progressives destroyed

00:10:24.920 it but they're supposed to say no wait a minute hang on that might be good for new york but that's not

00:10:29.760 good for texas or that may be great in texas but that's not right for california that is supposed to be

00:10:38.700 a speed bump then the president is has the ability to veto something not because it's popular or unpopular

00:10:48.200 he has a right to veto things according to our monopoly rule book he can veto if he finds it

00:10:58.160 unconstitutional if he says this is unconstitutional no i'm not signing this then what happens it goes to the

00:11:08.440 supreme court and the supreme court is made entirely for one reason what is that reason why do we have a

00:11:17.560 supreme court it's not to make laws in fact its number one job its main purpose is to make sure that any laws

00:11:29.500 that are enacted by the majority do not inflict damage on the minority so what their job is see the bill of

00:11:42.180 rights is not majority rules that's what the supreme court is supposed to do their main job is make sure 1.00

00:11:51.680 that the bill of rights is not violated and they have failed us many times i.e. slavery yeah i mean like

00:11:58.620 you know they talk about this with speech all the time where like the most popular most important speech

00:12:03.460 to protect is the unpopular speech no one's going to stop you from saying something that 80 percent of

00:12:08.280 people agree with it's the thing that one percent of people agree correct and it's the same thing with

00:12:13.160 the court as its basic function it's easy to get things through when 60 and 70 and 80 percent of

00:12:19.040 people agree with it it's that thing that is still constitutional is still a right protected by uh by our

00:12:24.960 founding documents in our country that's the thing that they need to stand up for you look at this

00:12:30.120 first amendment why does the first amendment exist because people are going to say things that other

00:12:35.860 people don't like and it is only through opposition and debate that we can actually come to any

00:12:43.300 consensus the press they knew the press would take on the government it should take on the government

00:12:50.240 and ask questions the powerful don't want to answer that's why it's protected your right to petition

00:12:58.580 and assemble with people to question the powerful are you noticing things the the right for religion

00:13:07.420 because the state in other countries said this is the official religion and so that had all the power

00:13:17.680 and it put all other religions out so the first amendment what is that about that is making sure that the

00:13:26.100 minority or the smaller power is on equal footing and the government and the majority power cannot take

00:13:36.880 these people out the second amendment got news for you it's not for hunting otherwise maybe there would

00:13:42.380 have been croquet yeah we have the right to a croquet set it's not about hunting it's not about sports

00:13:48.620 it's about the minority being able to have enough power to be able to keep in check the powerful

00:13:59.100 if they are violating rights and violating the declaration of independence its proposal of what we are

00:14:07.500 and the rules and laws in our little constitution monopoly game it's so you the little guy has the power

00:14:17.700 power over the king same thing with all of it it is for minority protection that's what makes us

00:14:29.380 different that's why you don't want a democracy because a democracy will fall into the hands of a bunch of

00:14:40.020 right-wing extremists left-wing extremists and once they have power they can do things like set up a board for speech

00:14:51.700 to be able to say which speech is acceptable which questions are acceptable who's acceptable what behavior is

00:14:59.320 acceptable acceptable what the supreme court did yesterday was very clear it did not ban abortion

00:15:09.160 it didn't what it did was return the power to the people these five people what did this say

00:15:19.880 that these five people these nine people this is what it said these these people us should not be making the

00:15:30.800 decision on something so personal that is not in the constitution that is up to the people

00:15:39.140 themselves to decide it was empowering for the average person 0.99

00:15:45.720 it's amazing how dumb americans have become because of our teachers unions and because of our media 1.00

00:15:58.120 and quite honestly because of our political parties america you're an idiot now do you want to 1.00

00:16:08.240 stop being an idiot then maybe you should educate yourself before you go on as president of the united 1.00

00:16:18.320 states and say i didn't read it so maybe gay people can't get married anymore oh what a moron 1.00

00:16:27.360 you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program 1.00

00:16:33.700 all right um chelsea manning uh isn't chelsea manning if i if i have it right 0.97

00:16:48.580 the chelsea is i can't remember his name before he claimed he was a woman

00:16:52.440 um but payton payton no not payton manning i know enough to know that's not right you almost

00:16:59.900 got it what was his name uh anyway i can't uh chelsea uh he's now chiming in because he claims

00:17:08.460 to be a woman bradley manning bradley manning that name would that one seems like fake to me that

00:17:13.560 one seems like no that's not his name eli it was eli anyway uh archie chelsea manning uh is now

00:17:25.480 speaking out about abortion and the potential of the supreme court uh ruling and um he tweets

00:17:35.120 yesterday for those of you who are just catching up if you're able to afford it and it's safe for you

00:17:42.380 to do so you should consider arming yourselves then finding others to train with in teams learn how to

00:17:51.700 to defend your community we may need these skills in the very near future huh now i don't know why

00:18:02.380 this person that cannot have a baby they cannot carry a child because she's a he it's a dude dude 0.62

00:18:14.520 so i don't know what right this white male has to chime in on abortion rights but i really want to focus

00:18:26.180 on is is this allowed on twitter to be able to say hey get ready for a civil war and arm yourselves and

00:18:35.380 start training uh and then the replies are is the implication here that overturning roe versus wade

00:18:42.580 would incur civil war if so does someone have a broad brush stroke sense of how that chain of event

00:18:48.180 might might unfold um yeah somebody does roe goes then the power of the 14th amendment goes the 14th

00:18:56.260 goes so do several other human rights civil unrest follows wow uh okay i mean i've been to the secret

00:19:05.320 meetings of all the white people we get together 7 30s tuesdays on denny's at denny's and um i've been to

00:19:13.440 those meetings i have not heard the 14th amendment abolishment plan spoken out loud yeah they're not

00:19:22.980 going to say that out loud not going to say it out they're going to order a grand slam yeah and then

00:19:26.740 they're going and when they when they say grand slam they mean 14th amendment it's code it's a dog

00:19:32.820 whistle all right it's a dog whistle um then uh carrie lee uh writes in i used to be opposed to the idea

00:19:39.800 of owning firearms with no small part of being how much i felt i would be at risk of self-harm

00:19:45.160 from the depression i had before transitioning wow that is that's really sad but now it doesn't seem

00:19:51.680 like an extreme message which is terrifying yeah yeah think it think it i think it probably is now the

00:19:58.120 left is online on twitter talking about arming themselves for a civil war interesting because it's

00:20:06.800 happening on twitter before elon musk has said hey you should arm yourself and we should have a race

00:20:16.360 riot so apparently the algorithm is okay with violence on twitter yet the media cannot handle

00:20:27.880 elon musk elon musk buying twitter at all elon musk i guess he you know he misses the old south

00:20:34.640 africa in the 80s he wants he wants that back reminds me of old bond movies where you know

00:20:39.000 dr evil and guys like that or goldfinger we're going to take over the media uh i just my tummy

00:20:45.240 meter says there's something just not coming about this if you get invited to something where there are

00:20:48.840 no rules where there is total freedom for everybody do you actually want to go to that party

00:20:54.260 can you stop or um yeah i i go to those parties all the time almost every party i go to does not

00:21:01.360 send me a list of rules really yeah i go to parties and they're like well i mean there is one rule

00:21:08.060 my wife gives it to me don't make anybody cry or want to kill themselves okay and you never live up

00:21:13.620 and i never live up to that i break that every time but do you want to go to a party without rules

00:21:19.380 yeah most people do most people do because we have common ethics now do i want to go to a party

00:21:28.580 with anarchists well um depends on who the anarchist is you know um pendulet says he's an anarchist

00:21:39.840 michael malice is an anarchist i don't mind going to a they both pretty fun at parties they'd be fun

00:21:45.440 parties and i wouldn't feel in danger at all so so this of course mr potato head i'm sorry 0.98

00:21:54.580 miz uh generic potato head is uh is is making once again just a stupid analogy how dumb 0.99

00:22:08.640 are their viewers how dumb are the voters of the left because do they i mean they actually have to 1.00

00:22:17.100 believe this stuff right i don't even think you're making a judgment there you're making a judgment 1.00

00:22:22.020 based on the way they talk to their voters they must know they're idiots i i'm not i don't even have 1.00

00:22:28.640 to look at the voters and say okay they must be idiots no what the way the left media speaks to 1.00

00:22:34.860 their own voters shows you they must know they're idiots you know i can't tell you how many interviews 1.00

00:22:41.380 i did with people in the media um you know that never got printed and they would ask why why the 0.99

00:22:48.520 success why how did this happen and i'm like well i've been doing it for 30 years nobody noted nobody

00:22:54.640 nobody in the media noticed because i wasn't doing it in new york uh there's there's number one 0.71

00:22:58.940 two i don't treat my audience like they're imbeciles when i first got into television they 0.63

00:23:05.440 all said you can't know that's too complex you can't do that people won't pay attention really 0.88

00:23:09.980 because i think they will i think they will i think people are starving for the truth and starving for

00:23:16.520 somebody to tell them what it really means somebody to explain big principles nobody wants to walk

00:23:23.280 around like a dummy all the time and what is this society doing first they treated you like an 1.00

00:23:29.380 imbecile now they're insisting on you being an imbecile you you're not being taught math you're in 1.00

00:23:37.220 school you're not being taught math you're not being taught history you're not being taught how to think 1.00

00:23:42.280 you're not being taught how to question you're not being taught any of that stuff you are being taught

00:23:48.520 to be somebody who marches in the streets for what for anything your leader tells you to do

00:23:56.680 don't think it through because if you think it through you might disagree with it and if you

00:24:00.700 disagree with it you're out this is this is everything the left does they accuse the right of doing listen

00:24:11.780 to this some of the most high-profile liberal figures have joined together to encourage advertisers

00:24:17.740 to boycott twitter if elon musk brings his promised policy of unfettered free speech okay this in america

00:24:27.800 26 ngos and advocacy groups have signed the letter expressing concern about the world's richest man's

00:24:36.200 plan no you know that they don't ever really make a big deal out of bezos and how much he controls

00:24:43.940 bill gates well this crazy idea clinton that a rich person could buy something that influences is our

00:24:53.600 politics what could possibly there's no precedent of a rich person owning a media company now by the way

00:25:01.600 i got that information from bloomberg so i know it's gotta be true this is insanity musk himself

00:25:09.780 responded to the letter asking who funds this uh this group the answer being assortment of dark money

00:25:15.980 groups like george soros's open society foundation ngos founded by former clinton and obama administration

00:25:23.440 staffers wealthy white democratic donors and their family foundations so his takeover of twitter

00:25:31.540 is going to toxify our information and it's a direct threat to public safety especially among those

00:25:40.360 already most vulnerable and marginalized who's the most vulnerable who is the most vulnerable

00:25:47.280 the most vulnerable are the people who can't read who have a limited education who have been sucked in

00:25:55.620 onto the teat of the government who has gone through government funded schools and listened to the lies

00:26:03.180 that are being taught by the teachers unions they're the people that are are out of sight out of mind that

00:26:11.900 just watch whatever drivel spills out of tiktok and they're the ones that kamala harris can step in front of 1.00

00:26:21.620 and say big country bad little country good or anything else that the potato on cnn or anybody says

00:26:32.940 those are the most vulnerable those who have an education even and more importantly if it's an education

00:26:42.040 they earned they actually did it themselves they did it because they were curious not because they

00:26:49.680 wanted a piece of paper those are not the most vulnerable your ad dollars can either fund musk's 0.91

00:26:58.020 vanity project or hold him to account we call on you to demand musk uphold these basic standards of 0.97

00:27:04.540 community trust and safety and pull your advertising spending from twitter if they are not okay so who is

00:27:12.800 this well the usual suspects uh policy spokesman for hillary clinton's campaign nephew of david axelrod former

00:27:22.800 senior advisor of barack obama uh media matters we know who they are uh david brock and and george soros and

00:27:33.040 hillary clinton's money um ultraviolet who are these people um well they founded the group on the principle

00:27:42.000 that with the combination of organizing technology creative campaigning and people power we can win

00:27:47.220 oh wow they're backed by several unions among them the american federation of labor congress of

00:27:54.260 industrial organizations afl cio and the american federation of teachers isn't that weird uh by the

00:28:00.980 way um the other group media matters yeah yeah did you know that they were uh taking donations from the

00:28:08.780 national education association america's largest union representing teachers seems like the teachers

00:28:16.260 unions man they are all over this and then other backers like chicago-based billionaires uh members of

00:28:24.160 one of america's richest family who made their money through the hyatt uh hotel chain um nicholas pritzker

00:28:32.160 he's 76 years old he started the libra foundation uh that's an organization that supports

00:28:38.440 frontline organizations building a world where communities of color thrive this is fantastic um

00:28:45.420 you've got foreign entities that are involved in funding these organizations that's who do

00:28:53.320 who's doing it by the way that isn't just for twitter that email has gone out

00:28:59.140 saying you've got to boycott this is esg you watch

00:29:04.520 twitter you have to understand if you advertise for twitter that there's some reputational risk to your

00:29:12.880 company but you choose whatever that letter has also gone out about abortion you've got to stand for

00:29:22.400 abortion and your company has to publicly back it otherwise there's some reputational risk

00:29:29.620 america you're gonna be held hostage you're gonna do it are you gonna keep paying them the mob is at your

00:29:38.220 door and they're offering you protection you know you just have to pay this little fee how odd is it for you

00:29:45.780 get off of twitter stop advertising you know i'm just asking you you know you're either with us or

00:29:53.380 you're against us and you know maybe bad things happen the businesses that don't play the game you

00:30:00.500 know what i'm saying you know you know there's a reputational risk you're you're building my burn

00:30:05.220 down in the middle of the night just play along nobody gets hurt go ahead that is who you're dealing

00:30:13.140 with america what's your choice freedom or in bed with the mob

00:30:21.120 you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:30:27.620 all right jack carr is with us hello jack how are you great thank you for having me on sir i

00:30:40.980 sincerely appreciate it oh you bet you bet i can't wait how excited are you for uh uh terminalists to

00:30:47.140 come out with uh pratt well i'm fired up it's uh you know you never know when you go into these things

00:30:52.920 there's a lot of trust involved because they can really take your material and do anything they want

00:30:57.260 with it which is why they usually like to get rid of the author right away if you're not yelling

00:31:00.980 you ruined my vision yeah they had me involved from the from the get-go and amazon was so supportive

00:31:06.580 and uh i think we managed to get all of that uh what people you know talk about being woke uh all

00:31:13.080 of that out of there so i think it's going to be very refreshing for people that are between new

00:31:17.380 york and los angeles uh it's gonna it i think we crushed it and uh chris certainly did playing navy

00:31:22.480 seal sniper james reese antoine fuqua is the director i mean everybody came together and it is dark it is

00:31:27.600 gritty it is violent it is authentic and i think we knocked it out of the park what an endorsement it's

00:31:33.700 dark it's gritty it's violent you're gonna love it uh all right so jack i wanted to have you on

00:31:39.640 because i something feels wrong with this russia ukraine situation uh and it could it seems like

00:31:48.660 everybody is prepared if i were a fiction writer uh i would be looking at all of these things that

00:31:57.500 are happening and i would say yeah it's just i'm doing a little foreshadowing they're starting to

00:32:03.040 build up for war they're letting people know i'm letting the reader know it just seems like we're

00:32:08.900 going places that uh i i don't think would be a good place to go as a fiction writer and somebody who

00:32:17.660 lives in this world and i i love talking to fiction writers especially about uh geopolitical things

00:32:25.120 because you can't write things that don't make sense because nobody would believe it so you have

00:32:32.520 to be based in reality as a fiction writer where do you think we're going well if i'd uh if i'd written

00:32:40.680 what is actually happening in the world today whether it's russia ukraine it's a withdrawal from

00:32:45.540 afghanistan whether it's our own country right here if i'd written these things 10 years ago it wouldn't

00:32:50.620 be a political thriller it would go in the dystopian thriller category perhaps even the science fiction

00:32:55.520 type of category i don't think people would 10 years ago i think if you would have written what's

00:33:00.620 happening today 10 years ago you would have been laughed at i mean people nobody would buy the book

00:33:06.220 and i think people would go that's ridiculous it would never happen exactly this could never happen

00:33:12.280 in this country it's just too uh too too unrealistic that's what the reviews on amazon would say

00:33:17.560 um but uh but these things are happening uh and in fact when we look just at ukraine and russia

00:33:23.600 um it didn't take you didn't have to be a genius you didn't have to be a geopolitical strategist

00:33:27.480 to look at it apply some common sense to to nato ukraine and russia and predict what was going to

00:33:32.940 happen in fact my second book true believer i have a black flag type of false flag type of an operation

00:33:38.560 uh to get russia to invade ukraine as part of the storyline and i just studied the situation and needed

00:33:45.600 to figure out how to make that happen and lo and behold that has now happened but in the research

00:33:50.460 that i did that really was uh you could see that coming because of the decline of the ethnic russian

00:33:57.040 population since the end of the cold war and really they could only field an army up to about 2022

00:34:02.400 and then they were going to either have they're going to have to invade ukraine because that has

00:34:06.440 the largest population of ethnic russians outside of russia um so for our senior level leaders not to come

00:34:13.560 to that same conclusion after looking at it with a little bit of common sense uh is is shot it

00:34:19.180 shouldn't be shocking but it is because we rely on those leaders to make those good strategic decisions

00:34:24.200 and they have proven time and time again that they're incapable of doing so so wait a minute so

00:34:28.100 you say that the reason why they're having a hard time is they they don't they they can't get more

00:34:35.680 troops and you're saying that that's one of the reasons why you think they invaded ukraine so they 0.99

00:34:41.280 could have ethnic russians to fight that's right so it's uh it's looking at those at those numbers

00:34:47.400 and that's you really have about two generations of ethnic russians being a uh a population that can

00:34:54.480 sustain a military uh and uh but it in much much smaller numbers past 2022 so in uh 2014 peter zhan

00:35:04.880 wrote a book called the accidental superpower which looks at geography looks demographics

00:35:08.480 in uh in world history when it comes to uh to nation states and world powers and uh that's the

00:35:15.300 conclusion that he came to in that book which is one of the things that i used in that second novel

00:35:19.460 um but there there of course are supporting factors but that's a big one and that also ties into the

00:35:25.820 nuclear question because if you have someone uh who believes that their population their country is

00:35:30.780 not going to be around in two generations and they can't even field an army passed right about now

00:35:35.280 uh well it makes using maybe a tactical nuclear weapon uh at least threatening to do so but maybe

00:35:40.680 even using it a little more likely because they're uh an animal in a corner and it's fight or flight and

00:35:46.200 it's survival it's not they don't look at it as an option as uh hey if we do do this we don't do this

00:35:53.160 well hey if we don't do this we're dead anyway so we have to look we put ourselves in the enemy's

00:35:57.660 shoes and uh to anticipate what they're going to do we we continually do not do that in this country

00:36:02.820 for whatever reason i gotta tell you that some of the best commentary i've heard on on what's

00:36:07.500 happening in ukraine already and we've been talking just a couple of minutes i didn't hear i haven't

00:36:12.240 heard any of that i've heard about the the lack of military um but i i had no idea that we knew this

00:36:20.740 from the get-go so when you have this situation and you have putin i'm sure you've done enough

00:36:26.920 research just for your own novels on uh putin and how things work over there uh a couple of

00:36:35.380 questions first they think he's sick um may have cancer they're saying that maybe he's going under the

00:36:43.300 knife um and will be you know under and they don't know how long he will be incapacitated

00:36:51.160 if i'm putin i'm wondering if i'm going to be safe when they put me out or if they might

00:36:58.140 accidentally turn that knob up a little bit oh yes and this was something during the cold war that uh

00:37:03.820 that was uh at the forefront of senior level russian officials minds when they had to go under the knife

00:37:09.040 when they had to be put put under and they had security in those rooms uh not just because of an

00:37:13.840 assassination or something along those lines by a doctor that might be on the cia payroll or just

00:37:18.560 a uh arrival in the political or or military space but because coming out of that uh at anesthesia so

00:37:24.740 when they're coming out of that there's a certain time period where you're not really very lucid uh

00:37:29.260 and for those who have been under the knife know what that that feels like uh and you're coming out

00:37:32.740 of that and well maybe a doctor on the cia payroll can ask you a few questions at that point in time

00:37:38.140 and filter that back to the cia so that was something during the cold war that uh that was at the

00:37:43.460 forefront when any of those guys would have to go under the knife for a medical procedure so

00:37:47.380 i am sure that putin is thinking about that and of course he knows his history much better than we

00:37:52.060 do uh history of coups in uh in russia it's not uh it's not infrequent when we look at world history

00:37:58.560 so i'm sure that uh that he's thinking about that and uh surrounding himself with uh people he thinks

00:38:04.080 are trustworthy to ensure that either he's not killed during that time frame or is not uh asked

00:38:09.200 questions during that time frame about his strategy vis-a-vis uh ukraine or the rest of the world or

00:38:13.880 uh his intent to use or not use nuclear weapons do you have any idea who would replace him let's

00:38:20.500 say he dies on the table do you have any idea i do how that works there's uh there's always a uh

00:38:27.120 a military leader waiting in the wings it seems when we look at uh and uh but who that is i am i am not

00:38:33.040 sure uh and you know in these situations uh or just when you're looking at authoritarian dictatorships or

00:38:39.380 um or countries like that the senior level leaders oftentimes are not getting the best information

00:38:46.280 because it is uh not healthy to bring that bad news to uh to a dictator because oftentimes it's off of

00:38:52.760 your head or off to the gulag so it's uh it's a strange position to be in obviously we saw that with

00:38:58.200 the uh our war in iraq um uh where saddam thought he actually did have a capability that he he did not

00:39:04.520 uh and putin is probably in that same position do you what do you make of the the story it came out

00:39:11.460 i think yesterday pictures of what they call the flying kremlin it is a plane that they haven't seen

00:39:17.880 it in the air i think since 2010 or 2011 and um it's been flying around russia uh and it is the

00:39:28.760 the nuclear plane if something needs to go on you know we have air force one that everything can be

00:39:36.080 run from that plane in case of a nuclear war do you think that's just telling the go ahead oh yeah

00:39:45.060 that seems interesting i didn't see that story but uh you know oftentimes uh these things are done to

00:39:50.580 just send send a message uh and they might just to say hey we have this capability um and to get us

00:39:56.880 to take or not take a certain a certain action um so for putin to say he's moving nuclear weapons

00:40:02.880 into a certain position well they're probably already there uh or if this plane is flying around

00:40:06.760 um if the russian military uh if their capabilities are what we've seen in ukraine thus far then we

00:40:13.300 we overestimated as did a lot of those senior level generals uh probably because they didn't want

00:40:17.460 to get their head lopped off by saying they weren't as capable as uh as they had been uh projecting

00:40:22.460 or advertising but flying a plane like that probably is the same uh the same thing as saying

00:40:28.000 hey we're moving nuclear weapons into a certain position just in case we need to use them so that

00:40:33.400 it sends a message to the west to uh discontinue support of ukraine or get us to take a certain

00:40:39.260 action so how how serious do you think this nuke thing is i'm you know we've all grown up uh in you

00:40:47.160 know without this fear of nukes i grew up in the time i you might have too where you know we we feared

00:40:54.620 what russia might do and then it went away and now i are we really that close to some sort of a nuclear

00:41:03.260 explosion on on earth i mean the first question is and i did grow up during that time as well uh and

00:41:10.980 we thought with the end of the cold war that hey uh our main threat now is the the proliferation of some

00:41:15.660 of these weapons going to uh uh rogue nation states or super empowered individuals or terrorist

00:41:20.660 organizations or that sort of a thing but now we're back with a uh state on state nation on nation uh

00:41:27.100 do you think it's serious well first the question would have to be hey do they have the capability

00:41:32.400 and that the answer to that question is yes they have about 6 000 uh both tactical and strategic uh

00:41:38.680 nuclear weapons strategic meaning they're gigantic and fly towards us uh tactical meaning you use them on

00:41:44.580 on the battlefield a lot smaller but still huge uh when compared to something like hiroshima or

00:41:49.720 nagasaki something something like that um but we have when you we have a lot less but you know with

00:41:55.440 nuclear weapons it doesn't really matter how you know a thousand here a thousand there but uh when

00:42:00.000 we add all of nato's nuclear weapons and russia's it's about the same uh give or take it's uh just shy

00:42:04.940 of 6 000 when we add all of nato nuclear weapons uh to russia's um but in this case it's interesting

00:42:10.820 in that if they did do something like that uh we have this china we have that that side so it would

00:42:16.360 make it a lot harder for china to support russia if russia uses even a tactical nuclear weapon on

00:42:23.120 the battlefield so that's an interesting um uh kind of connection here because china is right now

00:42:29.720 russia's greatest ally uh militarily trade-wise um and they have a there's a lot of incentives from this

00:42:35.980 to stay connected and using a nuclear weapon would make that a lot more difficult

00:42:40.020 so i i just want to war game one more thing with you and that is uh china you know it's just

00:42:45.920 reading something i can't remember where i read it this morning um but uh some analysis that

00:42:51.880 the american dollar is going to lose its reserve uh currency status you know in the in the coming

00:42:59.500 days months years whenever and china is making a move to you know basically have a a multi or bipolar

00:43:09.420 uh powered world uh if we japan looks like it's falling apart economically we're not doing so

00:43:19.720 great europe's not doing so great there's a war going on if this thing spirals out of control what's

00:43:26.460 to stop china from taking taiwan and then just gobbling the world right so they are obviously looking very 1.00

00:43:35.160 closely at what was going to happen with ukraine and russia um that that didn't happen as fast as

00:43:40.580 uh most of our strategic level thinkers leaders talking heads uh anticipated uh which was about three

00:43:46.760 four days uh russia's going to roll through ukraine and a lot of that is due to zelinski and i still

00:43:52.060 am curious as to why russia did not decapitate that government ahead of time um take out the leader

00:43:58.420 first and i think it's because they uh they thought oh this is just an actor um kind of like uh ronald

00:44:03.660 reagan before he as he first started into into politics um and they they just they discounted

00:44:08.680 how he could galvanize both his country and the world uh against russia so i think that was a

00:44:14.940 strategic level mistake and they should have anticipated that one and even and we thought

00:44:18.940 the same thing we offered him uh refuge we said we'll we'll take you out of the country and we 0.98

00:44:23.280 the way that was asked and the way that was talked about was so casual it seemed as though we just

00:44:28.200 thought oh for sure the leader of the country is going to pick up and go um and uh russia probably

00:44:34.080 thought the same thing uh but that did not happen and now we have the situation that we have now

00:44:38.940 essentially a war of attrition um and we'll see how that uh we'll see how that that that ends up but

00:44:44.620 china and currency that is that is a major play here and a major component of this that no one is

00:44:50.160 talking about so i'm glad you are and china can look at things obviously they can look they look in 0.96

00:44:55.840 decades they look in centuries uh we look at things in four-year election cycles maybe eight years for

00:45:01.820 the real deep thinkers among us but china can take a breath um and they can see what happened in ukraine 0.93

00:45:07.800 they can take a breath on taiwan and they can uh they can look at this long term uh and that is the

00:45:14.980 advantage that they have over us they have their problems too they have population problems the one

00:45:19.800 child policy and all that coming to fruition there's their lockdowns their mandates uh they have a lot of

00:45:24.660 issues to deal with as well internally um but they can deal with those issues and take a breath on

00:45:30.420 the strategic front because we're doing a pretty good job of destroying ourselves from the inside

00:45:34.420 right now so a little strategic patience on their part uh really plays into their hands talking to

00:45:40.680 jack carr the author of uh in the blood and the terminal list which is coming out on uh netflix soon

00:45:47.240 uh i own the uh paramount studios here in uh in dallas it was an old movie lot back in the 80s

00:45:55.400 and i have some of i have an old uh ship uh that was used in a mini series back in the 80s um

00:46:03.580 and it was winds of war you're really yeah you're really now in the the best time to be a writer

00:46:12.680 because now these movies can be made in episodes and they don't bastardize the book usually

00:46:20.640 wow that's amazing that you that uh you have that and i've been there on chad prather's show

00:46:26.340 so i've been into i've been in the back rooms there oh my gosh the things that you have and

00:46:30.220 it was amazing let me know next time you're here i'll i'll take you on a tour and show you some of

00:46:35.300 the cool stuff we have um thank you you have a lot of amazing things and winds of war was that's an

00:46:40.060 incredible book and more people read that and worn remembrance and that was their gateway into

00:46:44.400 non-fiction studying history to hopefully apply those lessons going forward and wisdom we'd all

00:46:49.000 be in a better place jack carr um in the blood is out right now and coming soon the terminal list to

00:46:56.940 netflix please jack let me know next time you're in town i'd i'd love to take you on a quick tour god

00:47:03.860 bless you

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 04, 2022

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