The Glenn Beck Program - May 04, 2022


Best of the Program | Guest: Jack Carr | 5⧸4⧸22


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

162.16045

Word Count

7,645

Sentence Count

3

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary

Join us as we discuss the Supreme Court's recent ruling on abortion, the slippery slope, and the future of the Civil Rights movement. Join us as our special guest, Jack Carr, joins us to talk about his views on abortion and the "slippery slope."


Transcript

00:00:00.000 great show today uh really good show we talk about all the important issues including that
00:00:06.020 whole thing apparently that happened uh in the supreme court on abortion stew and i would both
00:00:11.160 like to know i mean this is really putting women out to you know to travel to another state i mean
00:00:16.440 you might have to take a 45 minute airplane ride to kill your child we're just wondering
00:00:21.260 how many abortions does the average person get i mean because i mean being put out once
00:00:28.860 you know maybe not that big of a problem anyway we'll get into that and so much more
00:00:34.260 including our special guest jack carr who war games uh russia america and the ukraine all on today's
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00:01:48.980 oh my goodness could we just play a couple of holy cow here's cnn
00:01:58.700 on the slippery slope and i cannot believe that i'm sitting here jim in the year of 2022
00:02:07.020 a right that i was born into a society that had that my mother had that my grandmother had that my
00:02:13.980 great-grandmother's in her lifetime had that the stroke of a pen someone can simply say a fundamental
00:02:20.300 right that is within a zone of privacy that the court has said should be hands-off for the government
00:02:26.140 can you stop for just a second two i am sitting here i can't believe i'm sitting here in 1865
00:02:32.420 you know and a right that i had to own property in fact my my grandfather had my great-grandfather had
00:02:41.680 i mean we've owned these slaves for generations they've been part of our family's wealth let's put
00:02:52.640 it that way and it's one thing in the 1860s 1870 imagine in 1915 right it's been a you know i i mean
00:03:00.740 gosh that's 50 years after i don't know maybe that's uh if it was wrong well then you would
00:03:07.020 overturn it if it's not then you don't 50 years after that's kind of the way this works you know
00:03:11.880 i can't believe that i live in a country where where we've had separate you know movie theaters
00:03:21.500 and drinking fountains we've had them say you know my grandfather my great-grandfather and now
00:03:28.560 we're just gonna change that i i can't believe that right to separate but equal
00:03:36.740 is going away and i remember all of these people on the left back in the 70s saying you know this
00:03:44.040 law had been this way all this time states could manage their own uh access to abortion for the
00:03:52.040 entire country's history until 1973 and all of a sudden now we're gonna change it that's crazy
00:03:58.280 that's crazy this is such a dumb argument okay so she goes on to say what's next can be taken away
00:04:06.540 there are a lot of things now on the chopping block and steve you spoke about an earthquake
00:04:11.480 well a familiar phrase the slippery slope in the supreme court that which you do in one area could
00:04:16.740 extend to others well fundamental rights include interstate travel include stop interstate travel
00:04:23.580 yeah anytime at any moment at any moment i was thinking just the other day i don't know if we're
00:04:29.720 going to be able to go from texas to oklahoma can we do that will they just put barriers up on all of
00:04:37.300 the interstates and you know look interstate travel has been a really divisive 50 50 political issue
00:04:42.860 forever forever you know people like the republicans don't want you to cross lines of states i mean a
00:04:47.920 small number of people are going to say no interstate travel and that's i mean i'm telling you
00:04:55.900 that and the the divorce that has been wanted by clarence thomas to get out of his marriage with his
00:05:05.960 white wife that he's going to overturn he just doesn't want to tell jimmy he doesn't he's been
00:05:13.060 looking to well she's white you know what white people that are very bad people are bad i don't
00:05:17.660 know if you know this i know and so obviously that's the way he's going to get try to get out
00:05:21.380 of it he doesn't want to he doesn't want to tell her he doesn't want to be married anymore he's going
00:05:24.100 to rule the supreme court to make it illegal so now so now the slippery slope it's coming and you know
00:05:31.520 this was from a boob on on cnn this one is the boob in the white house listen to joe biden radical
00:05:41.040 decisions if this decision holds it's really quite a radical decision um and again the underlying
00:05:49.560 premise and again i've not had a chance to thoroughly join to the report the decision so
00:05:56.020 definitely comment on it anyway yeah basically says all the decisions related to your private life
00:06:01.720 no who you marry no that's not what it says decide to conceive a child or not whether or not
00:06:06.680 even child stop stop i can't take it well a lot of people are against birth right those people that
00:06:12.280 were overturning the abortion rights do not want children to be born right or something how many
00:06:16.780 times have you walked into a church where they're like you come to us if you're thinking about having
00:06:22.820 a child we'll tell you whether you can have a child or not it's just like those religious people
00:06:30.140 every sunday every sunday every sunday that's how the message starts i don't know about you i mean
00:06:34.620 look at my church they spend about half the service telling us we have to get a hall pass from them
00:06:41.060 to have children that's the way it works at church all the time now um he said here he he didn't
00:06:48.500 read um the um uh the decision which probably he should have before he um before he talked about it
00:06:56.140 because in it it says this only applies to this particular thing roe versus wade it only applies
00:07:05.880 to this so the slippery slope idea whoops that's uh that's out there um by the way i love this idea
00:07:15.180 that just five people are going to make the decision for the rest of us five people are going to make the
00:07:22.160 decision for the rest of us you know if those five people are following the constitution which is
00:07:30.000 have you ever played monopoly and somebody's like no the person who goes second when they go around
00:07:36.580 each time they get seven hundred dollars when they pass go and you're like no that's not what the
00:07:45.220 rules say rules those are outdated those were made in 1900 that's what they say what don't listen to
00:07:55.260 the manufacturer of monopoly what do they know they couldn't have foreseen our game okay that's as long
00:08:04.160 as we're all playing by the same rules when those five people or nine people when they speak
00:08:13.580 we may not like it but that is law now they can make bad laws i mean not actually sorry they should
00:08:24.240 not make any laws they can say this one's constitutional or this one is not and then they can change that if
00:08:32.980 it's based on bad law but you have to have the argument and if you didn't read the first draft which i
00:08:41.540 don't even know if it's going to become law if that first draft stands it all logically is put out
00:08:51.040 and it is also they use the words of liberal icons who have said this law doesn't work because of this
00:09:01.440 this and this you have to do it the right way okay that that's all this law is and by the way i can't
00:09:10.460 believe majority hang on just a second what this law did in the first place 30 states said no abortion
00:09:22.000 now other states were moving towards liberalizing their laws on abortion but what did they do
00:09:30.960 these nine people decided they're going to take away all of the discussion they're going to force people
00:09:41.560 to do what they say has to be done okay because why because why because they're all talking about the
00:09:52.320 majority no see this is a representative republic we hire people this is the way it should work
00:10:00.740 we hire people with our votes to go and represent us in a world where this works they actually
00:10:08.740 listen to the people and they enact the things that the people want that's congress then the senate
00:10:18.020 is supposed to pay attention to their states which they don't anymore because progressives destroyed
00:10:24.920 it but they're supposed to say no wait a minute hang on that might be good for new york but that's not
00:10:29.760 good for texas or that may be great in texas but that's not right for california that is supposed to be
00:10:38.700 a speed bump then the president is has the ability to veto something not because it's popular or unpopular
00:10:48.200 he has a right to veto things according to our monopoly rule book he can veto if he finds it
00:10:58.160 unconstitutional if he says this is unconstitutional no i'm not signing this then what happens it goes to the
00:11:08.440 supreme court and the supreme court is made entirely for one reason what is that reason why do we have a
00:11:17.560 supreme court it's not to make laws in fact its number one job its main purpose is to make sure that any laws
00:11:29.500 that are enacted by the majority do not inflict damage on the minority so what their job is see the bill of
00:11:42.180 rights is not majority rules that's what the supreme court is supposed to do their main job is make sure
00:11:51.680 that the bill of rights is not violated and they have failed us many times i.e. slavery yeah i mean like
00:11:58.620 you know they talk about this with speech all the time where like the most popular most important speech
00:12:03.460 to protect is the unpopular speech no one's going to stop you from saying something that 80 percent of
00:12:08.280 people agree with it's the thing that one percent of people agree correct and it's the same thing with
00:12:13.160 the court as its basic function it's easy to get things through when 60 and 70 and 80 percent of
00:12:19.040 people agree with it it's that thing that is still constitutional is still a right protected by uh by our
00:12:24.960 founding documents in our country that's the thing that they need to stand up for you look at this
00:12:30.120 first amendment why does the first amendment exist because people are going to say things that other
00:12:35.860 people don't like and it is only through opposition and debate that we can actually come to any
00:12:43.300 consensus the press they knew the press would take on the government it should take on the government
00:12:50.240 and ask questions the powerful don't want to answer that's why it's protected your right to petition
00:12:58.580 and assemble with people to question the powerful are you noticing things the the right for religion
00:13:07.420 because the state in other countries said this is the official religion and so that had all the power
00:13:17.680 and it put all other religions out so the first amendment what is that about that is making sure that the
00:13:26.100 minority or the smaller power is on equal footing and the government and the majority power cannot take
00:13:36.880 these people out the second amendment got news for you it's not for hunting otherwise maybe there would
00:13:42.380 have been croquet yeah we have the right to a croquet set it's not about hunting it's not about sports
00:13:48.620 it's about the minority being able to have enough power to be able to keep in check the powerful
00:13:59.100 if they are violating rights and violating the declaration of independence its proposal of what we are
00:14:07.500 and the rules and laws in our little constitution monopoly game it's so you the little guy has the power
00:14:17.700 power over the king same thing with all of it it is for minority protection that's what makes us
00:14:29.380 different that's why you don't want a democracy because a democracy will fall into the hands of a bunch of
00:14:40.020 right-wing extremists left-wing extremists and once they have power they can do things like set up a board for speech
00:14:51.700 to be able to say which speech is acceptable which questions are acceptable who's acceptable what behavior is
00:14:59.320 acceptable acceptable what the supreme court did yesterday was very clear it did not ban abortion
00:15:09.160 it didn't what it did was return the power to the people these five people what did this say
00:15:19.880 that these five people these nine people this is what it said these these people us should not be making the
00:15:30.800 decision on something so personal that is not in the constitution that is up to the people
00:15:39.140 themselves to decide it was empowering for the average person
00:15:45.720 it's amazing how dumb americans have become because of our teachers unions and because of our media
00:15:58.120 and quite honestly because of our political parties america you're an idiot now do you want to
00:16:08.240 stop being an idiot then maybe you should educate yourself before you go on as president of the united
00:16:18.320 states and say i didn't read it so maybe gay people can't get married anymore oh what a moron
00:16:27.360 you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
00:16:33.700 all right um chelsea manning uh isn't chelsea manning if i if i have it right
00:16:48.580 the chelsea is i can't remember his name before he claimed he was a woman
00:16:52.440 um but payton payton no not payton manning i know enough to know that's not right you almost
00:16:59.900 got it what was his name uh anyway i can't uh chelsea uh he's now chiming in because he claims
00:17:08.460 to be a woman bradley manning bradley manning that name would that one seems like fake to me that
00:17:13.560 one seems like no that's not his name eli it was eli anyway uh archie chelsea manning uh is now
00:17:25.480 speaking out about abortion and the potential of the supreme court uh ruling and um he tweets
00:17:35.120 yesterday for those of you who are just catching up if you're able to afford it and it's safe for you
00:17:42.380 to do so you should consider arming yourselves then finding others to train with in teams learn how to
00:17:51.700 to defend your community we may need these skills in the very near future huh now i don't know why
00:18:02.380 this person that cannot have a baby they cannot carry a child because she's a he it's a dude dude
00:18:14.520 so i don't know what right this white male has to chime in on abortion rights but i really want to focus
00:18:26.180 on is is this allowed on twitter to be able to say hey get ready for a civil war and arm yourselves and
00:18:35.380 start training uh and then the replies are is the implication here that overturning roe versus wade
00:18:42.580 would incur civil war if so does someone have a broad brush stroke sense of how that chain of event
00:18:48.180 might might unfold um yeah somebody does roe goes then the power of the 14th amendment goes the 14th
00:18:56.260 goes so do several other human rights civil unrest follows wow uh okay i mean i've been to the secret
00:19:05.320 meetings of all the white people we get together 7 30s tuesdays on denny's at denny's and um i've been to
00:19:13.440 those meetings i have not heard the 14th amendment abolishment plan spoken out loud yeah they're not
00:19:22.980 going to say that out loud not going to say it out they're going to order a grand slam yeah and then
00:19:26.740 they're going and when they when they say grand slam they mean 14th amendment it's code it's a dog
00:19:32.820 whistle all right it's a dog whistle um then uh carrie lee uh writes in i used to be opposed to the idea
00:19:39.800 of owning firearms with no small part of being how much i felt i would be at risk of self-harm
00:19:45.160 from the depression i had before transitioning wow that is that's really sad but now it doesn't seem
00:19:51.680 like an extreme message which is terrifying yeah yeah think it think it i think it probably is now the
00:19:58.120 left is online on twitter talking about arming themselves for a civil war interesting because it's
00:20:06.800 happening on twitter before elon musk has said hey you should arm yourself and we should have a race
00:20:16.360 riot so apparently the algorithm is okay with violence on twitter yet the media cannot handle
00:20:27.880 elon musk elon musk buying twitter at all elon musk i guess he you know he misses the old south
00:20:34.640 africa in the 80s he wants he wants that back reminds me of old bond movies where you know
00:20:39.000 dr evil and guys like that or goldfinger we're going to take over the media uh i just my tummy
00:20:45.240 meter says there's something just not coming about this if you get invited to something where there are
00:20:48.840 no rules where there is total freedom for everybody do you actually want to go to that party
00:20:54.260 can you stop or um yeah i i go to those parties all the time almost every party i go to does not
00:21:01.360 send me a list of rules really yeah i go to parties and they're like well i mean there is one rule
00:21:08.060 my wife gives it to me don't make anybody cry or want to kill themselves okay and you never live up
00:21:13.620 and i never live up to that i break that every time but do you want to go to a party without rules
00:21:19.380 yeah most people do most people do because we have common ethics now do i want to go to a party
00:21:28.580 with anarchists well um depends on who the anarchist is you know um pendulet says he's an anarchist
00:21:39.840 michael malice is an anarchist i don't mind going to a they both pretty fun at parties they'd be fun
00:21:45.440 parties and i wouldn't feel in danger at all so so this of course mr potato head i'm sorry
00:21:54.580 miz uh generic potato head is uh is is making once again just a stupid analogy how dumb
00:22:08.640 are their viewers how dumb are the voters of the left because do they i mean they actually have to
00:22:17.100 believe this stuff right i don't even think you're making a judgment there you're making a judgment
00:22:22.020 based on the way they talk to their voters they must know they're idiots i i'm not i don't even have
00:22:28.640 to look at the voters and say okay they must be idiots no what the way the left media speaks to
00:22:34.860 their own voters shows you they must know they're idiots you know i can't tell you how many interviews
00:22:41.380 i did with people in the media um you know that never got printed and they would ask why why the
00:22:48.520 success why how did this happen and i'm like well i've been doing it for 30 years nobody noted nobody
00:22:54.640 nobody in the media noticed because i wasn't doing it in new york uh there's there's number one
00:22:58.940 two i don't treat my audience like they're imbeciles when i first got into television they
00:23:05.440 all said you can't know that's too complex you can't do that people won't pay attention really
00:23:09.980 because i think they will i think they will i think people are starving for the truth and starving for
00:23:16.520 somebody to tell them what it really means somebody to explain big principles nobody wants to walk
00:23:23.280 around like a dummy all the time and what is this society doing first they treated you like an
00:23:29.380 imbecile now they're insisting on you being an imbecile you you're not being taught math you're in
00:23:37.220 school you're not being taught math you're not being taught history you're not being taught how to think
00:23:42.280 you're not being taught how to question you're not being taught any of that stuff you are being taught
00:23:48.520 to be somebody who marches in the streets for what for anything your leader tells you to do
00:23:56.680 don't think it through because if you think it through you might disagree with it and if you
00:24:00.700 disagree with it you're out this is this is everything the left does they accuse the right of doing listen
00:24:11.780 to this some of the most high-profile liberal figures have joined together to encourage advertisers
00:24:17.740 to boycott twitter if elon musk brings his promised policy of unfettered free speech okay this in america
00:24:27.800 26 ngos and advocacy groups have signed the letter expressing concern about the world's richest man's
00:24:36.200 plan no you know that they don't ever really make a big deal out of bezos and how much he controls
00:24:43.940 bill gates well this crazy idea clinton that a rich person could buy something that influences is our
00:24:53.600 politics what could possibly there's no precedent of a rich person owning a media company now by the way
00:25:01.600 i got that information from bloomberg so i know it's gotta be true this is insanity musk himself
00:25:09.780 responded to the letter asking who funds this uh this group the answer being assortment of dark money
00:25:15.980 groups like george soros's open society foundation ngos founded by former clinton and obama administration
00:25:23.440 staffers wealthy white democratic donors and their family foundations so his takeover of twitter
00:25:31.540 is going to toxify our information and it's a direct threat to public safety especially among those
00:25:40.360 already most vulnerable and marginalized who's the most vulnerable who is the most vulnerable
00:25:47.280 the most vulnerable are the people who can't read who have a limited education who have been sucked in
00:25:55.620 onto the teat of the government who has gone through government funded schools and listened to the lies
00:26:03.180 that are being taught by the teachers unions they're the people that are are out of sight out of mind that
00:26:11.900 just watch whatever drivel spills out of tiktok and they're the ones that kamala harris can step in front of
00:26:21.620 and say big country bad little country good or anything else that the potato on cnn or anybody says
00:26:32.940 those are the most vulnerable those who have an education even and more importantly if it's an education
00:26:42.040 they earned they actually did it themselves they did it because they were curious not because they
00:26:49.680 wanted a piece of paper those are not the most vulnerable your ad dollars can either fund musk's
00:26:58.020 vanity project or hold him to account we call on you to demand musk uphold these basic standards of
00:27:04.540 community trust and safety and pull your advertising spending from twitter if they are not okay so who is
00:27:12.800 this well the usual suspects uh policy spokesman for hillary clinton's campaign nephew of david axelrod former
00:27:22.800 senior advisor of barack obama uh media matters we know who they are uh david brock and and george soros and
00:27:33.040 hillary clinton's money um ultraviolet who are these people um well they founded the group on the principle
00:27:42.000 that with the combination of organizing technology creative campaigning and people power we can win
00:27:47.220 oh wow they're backed by several unions among them the american federation of labor congress of
00:27:54.260 industrial organizations afl cio and the american federation of teachers isn't that weird uh by the
00:28:00.980 way um the other group media matters yeah yeah did you know that they were uh taking donations from the
00:28:08.780 national education association america's largest union representing teachers seems like the teachers
00:28:16.260 unions man they are all over this and then other backers like chicago-based billionaires uh members of
00:28:24.160 one of america's richest family who made their money through the hyatt uh hotel chain um nicholas pritzker
00:28:32.160 he's 76 years old he started the libra foundation uh that's an organization that supports
00:28:38.440 frontline organizations building a world where communities of color thrive this is fantastic um
00:28:45.420 you've got foreign entities that are involved in funding these organizations that's who do
00:28:53.320 who's doing it by the way that isn't just for twitter that email has gone out
00:28:59.140 saying you've got to boycott this is esg you watch
00:29:04.520 twitter you have to understand if you advertise for twitter that there's some reputational risk to your
00:29:12.880 company but you choose whatever that letter has also gone out about abortion you've got to stand for
00:29:22.400 abortion and your company has to publicly back it otherwise there's some reputational risk
00:29:29.620 america you're gonna be held hostage you're gonna do it are you gonna keep paying them the mob is at your
00:29:38.220 door and they're offering you protection you know you just have to pay this little fee how odd is it for you
00:29:45.780 get off of twitter stop advertising you know i'm just asking you you know you're either with us or
00:29:53.380 you're against us and you know maybe bad things happen the businesses that don't play the game you
00:30:00.500 know what i'm saying you know you know there's a reputational risk you're you're building my burn
00:30:05.220 down in the middle of the night just play along nobody gets hurt go ahead that is who you're dealing
00:30:13.140 with america what's your choice freedom or in bed with the mob
00:30:21.120 you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
00:30:27.620 all right jack carr is with us hello jack how are you great thank you for having me on sir i
00:30:40.980 sincerely appreciate it oh you bet you bet i can't wait how excited are you for uh uh terminalists to
00:30:47.140 come out with uh pratt well i'm fired up it's uh you know you never know when you go into these things
00:30:52.920 there's a lot of trust involved because they can really take your material and do anything they want
00:30:57.260 with it which is why they usually like to get rid of the author right away if you're not yelling
00:31:00.980 you ruined my vision yeah they had me involved from the from the get-go and amazon was so supportive
00:31:06.580 and uh i think we managed to get all of that uh what people you know talk about being woke uh all
00:31:13.080 of that out of there so i think it's going to be very refreshing for people that are between new
00:31:17.380 york and los angeles uh it's gonna it i think we crushed it and uh chris certainly did playing navy
00:31:22.480 seal sniper james reese antoine fuqua is the director i mean everybody came together and it is dark it is
00:31:27.600 gritty it is violent it is authentic and i think we knocked it out of the park what an endorsement it's
00:31:33.700 dark it's gritty it's violent you're gonna love it uh all right so jack i wanted to have you on
00:31:39.640 because i something feels wrong with this russia ukraine situation uh and it could it seems like
00:31:48.660 everybody is prepared if i were a fiction writer uh i would be looking at all of these things that
00:31:57.500 are happening and i would say yeah it's just i'm doing a little foreshadowing they're starting to
00:32:03.040 build up for war they're letting people know i'm letting the reader know it just seems like we're
00:32:08.900 going places that uh i i don't think would be a good place to go as a fiction writer and somebody who
00:32:17.660 lives in this world and i i love talking to fiction writers especially about uh geopolitical things
00:32:25.120 because you can't write things that don't make sense because nobody would believe it so you have
00:32:32.520 to be based in reality as a fiction writer where do you think we're going well if i'd uh if i'd written
00:32:40.680 what is actually happening in the world today whether it's russia ukraine it's a withdrawal from
00:32:45.540 afghanistan whether it's our own country right here if i'd written these things 10 years ago it wouldn't
00:32:50.620 be a political thriller it would go in the dystopian thriller category perhaps even the science fiction
00:32:55.520 type of category i don't think people would 10 years ago i think if you would have written what's
00:33:00.620 happening today 10 years ago you would have been laughed at i mean people nobody would buy the book
00:33:06.220 and i think people would go that's ridiculous it would never happen exactly this could never happen
00:33:12.280 in this country it's just too uh too too unrealistic that's what the reviews on amazon would say
00:33:17.560 um but uh but these things are happening uh and in fact when we look just at ukraine and russia
00:33:23.600 um it didn't take you didn't have to be a genius you didn't have to be a geopolitical strategist
00:33:27.480 to look at it apply some common sense to to nato ukraine and russia and predict what was going to
00:33:32.940 happen in fact my second book true believer i have a black flag type of false flag type of an operation
00:33:38.560 uh to get russia to invade ukraine as part of the storyline and i just studied the situation and needed
00:33:45.600 to figure out how to make that happen and lo and behold that has now happened but in the research
00:33:50.460 that i did that really was uh you could see that coming because of the decline of the ethnic russian
00:33:57.040 population since the end of the cold war and really they could only field an army up to about 2022
00:34:02.400 and then they were going to either have they're going to have to invade ukraine because that has
00:34:06.440 the largest population of ethnic russians outside of russia um so for our senior level leaders not to come
00:34:13.560 to that same conclusion after looking at it with a little bit of common sense uh is is shot it
00:34:19.180 shouldn't be shocking but it is because we rely on those leaders to make those good strategic decisions
00:34:24.200 and they have proven time and time again that they're incapable of doing so so wait a minute so
00:34:28.100 you say that the reason why they're having a hard time is they they don't they they can't get more
00:34:35.680 troops and you're saying that that's one of the reasons why you think they invaded ukraine so they
00:34:41.280 could have ethnic russians to fight that's right so it's uh it's looking at those at those numbers
00:34:47.400 and that's you really have about two generations of ethnic russians being a uh a population that can
00:34:54.480 sustain a military uh and uh but it in much much smaller numbers past 2022 so in uh 2014 peter zhan
00:35:04.880 wrote a book called the accidental superpower which looks at geography looks demographics
00:35:08.480 in uh in world history when it comes to uh to nation states and world powers and uh that's the
00:35:15.300 conclusion that he came to in that book which is one of the things that i used in that second novel
00:35:19.460 um but there there of course are supporting factors but that's a big one and that also ties into the
00:35:25.820 nuclear question because if you have someone uh who believes that their population their country is
00:35:30.780 not going to be around in two generations and they can't even field an army passed right about now
00:35:35.280 uh well it makes using maybe a tactical nuclear weapon uh at least threatening to do so but maybe
00:35:40.680 even using it a little more likely because they're uh an animal in a corner and it's fight or flight and
00:35:46.200 it's survival it's not they don't look at it as an option as uh hey if we do do this we don't do this
00:35:53.160 well hey if we don't do this we're dead anyway so we have to look we put ourselves in the enemy's
00:35:57.660 shoes and uh to anticipate what they're going to do we we continually do not do that in this country
00:36:02.820 for whatever reason i gotta tell you that some of the best commentary i've heard on on what's
00:36:07.500 happening in ukraine already and we've been talking just a couple of minutes i didn't hear i haven't
00:36:12.240 heard any of that i've heard about the the lack of military um but i i had no idea that we knew this
00:36:20.740 from the get-go so when you have this situation and you have putin i'm sure you've done enough
00:36:26.920 research just for your own novels on uh putin and how things work over there uh a couple of
00:36:35.380 questions first they think he's sick um may have cancer they're saying that maybe he's going under the
00:36:43.300 knife um and will be you know under and they don't know how long he will be incapacitated
00:36:51.160 if i'm putin i'm wondering if i'm going to be safe when they put me out or if they might
00:36:58.140 accidentally turn that knob up a little bit oh yes and this was something during the cold war that uh
00:37:03.820 that was uh at the forefront of senior level russian officials minds when they had to go under the knife
00:37:09.040 when they had to be put put under and they had security in those rooms uh not just because of an
00:37:13.840 assassination or something along those lines by a doctor that might be on the cia payroll or just
00:37:18.560 a uh arrival in the political or or military space but because coming out of that uh at anesthesia so
00:37:24.740 when they're coming out of that there's a certain time period where you're not really very lucid uh
00:37:29.260 and for those who have been under the knife know what that that feels like uh and you're coming out
00:37:32.740 of that and well maybe a doctor on the cia payroll can ask you a few questions at that point in time
00:37:38.140 and filter that back to the cia so that was something during the cold war that uh that was at the
00:37:43.460 forefront when any of those guys would have to go under the knife for a medical procedure so
00:37:47.380 i am sure that putin is thinking about that and of course he knows his history much better than we
00:37:52.060 do uh history of coups in uh in russia it's not uh it's not infrequent when we look at world history
00:37:58.560 so i'm sure that uh that he's thinking about that and uh surrounding himself with uh people he thinks
00:38:04.080 are trustworthy to ensure that either he's not killed during that time frame or is not uh asked
00:38:09.200 questions during that time frame about his strategy vis-a-vis uh ukraine or the rest of the world or
00:38:13.880 uh his intent to use or not use nuclear weapons do you have any idea who would replace him let's
00:38:20.500 say he dies on the table do you have any idea i do how that works there's uh there's always a uh
00:38:27.120 a military leader waiting in the wings it seems when we look at uh and uh but who that is i am i am not
00:38:33.040 sure uh and you know in these situations uh or just when you're looking at authoritarian dictatorships or
00:38:39.380 um or countries like that the senior level leaders oftentimes are not getting the best information
00:38:46.280 because it is uh not healthy to bring that bad news to uh to a dictator because oftentimes it's off of
00:38:52.760 your head or off to the gulag so it's uh it's a strange position to be in obviously we saw that with
00:38:58.200 the uh our war in iraq um uh where saddam thought he actually did have a capability that he he did not
00:39:04.520 uh and putin is probably in that same position do you what do you make of the the story it came out
00:39:11.460 i think yesterday pictures of what they call the flying kremlin it is a plane that they haven't seen
00:39:17.880 it in the air i think since 2010 or 2011 and um it's been flying around russia uh and it is the
00:39:28.760 the nuclear plane if something needs to go on you know we have air force one that everything can be
00:39:36.080 run from that plane in case of a nuclear war do you think that's just telling the go ahead oh yeah
00:39:45.060 that seems interesting i didn't see that story but uh you know oftentimes uh these things are done to
00:39:50.580 just send send a message uh and they might just to say hey we have this capability um and to get us
00:39:56.880 to take or not take a certain a certain action um so for putin to say he's moving nuclear weapons
00:40:02.880 into a certain position well they're probably already there uh or if this plane is flying around
00:40:06.760 um if the russian military uh if their capabilities are what we've seen in ukraine thus far then we
00:40:13.300 we overestimated as did a lot of those senior level generals uh probably because they didn't want
00:40:17.460 to get their head lopped off by saying they weren't as capable as uh as they had been uh projecting
00:40:22.460 or advertising but flying a plane like that probably is the same uh the same thing as saying
00:40:28.000 hey we're moving nuclear weapons into a certain position just in case we need to use them so that
00:40:33.400 it sends a message to the west to uh discontinue support of ukraine or get us to take a certain
00:40:39.260 action so how how serious do you think this nuke thing is i'm you know we've all grown up uh in you
00:40:47.160 know without this fear of nukes i grew up in the time i you might have too where you know we we feared
00:40:54.620 what russia might do and then it went away and now i are we really that close to some sort of a nuclear
00:41:03.260 explosion on on earth i mean the first question is and i did grow up during that time as well uh and
00:41:10.980 we thought with the end of the cold war that hey uh our main threat now is the the proliferation of some
00:41:15.660 of these weapons going to uh uh rogue nation states or super empowered individuals or terrorist
00:41:20.660 organizations or that sort of a thing but now we're back with a uh state on state nation on nation uh
00:41:27.100 do you think it's serious well first the question would have to be hey do they have the capability
00:41:32.400 and that the answer to that question is yes they have about 6 000 uh both tactical and strategic uh
00:41:38.680 nuclear weapons strategic meaning they're gigantic and fly towards us uh tactical meaning you use them on
00:41:44.580 on the battlefield a lot smaller but still huge uh when compared to something like hiroshima or
00:41:49.720 nagasaki something something like that um but we have when you we have a lot less but you know with
00:41:55.440 nuclear weapons it doesn't really matter how you know a thousand here a thousand there but uh when
00:42:00.000 we add all of nato's nuclear weapons and russia's it's about the same uh give or take it's uh just shy
00:42:04.940 of 6 000 when we add all of nato nuclear weapons uh to russia's um but in this case it's interesting
00:42:10.820 in that if they did do something like that uh we have this china we have that that side so it would
00:42:16.360 make it a lot harder for china to support russia if russia uses even a tactical nuclear weapon on
00:42:23.120 the battlefield so that's an interesting um uh kind of connection here because china is right now
00:42:29.720 russia's greatest ally uh militarily trade-wise um and they have a there's a lot of incentives from this
00:42:35.980 to stay connected and using a nuclear weapon would make that a lot more difficult
00:42:40.020 so i i just want to war game one more thing with you and that is uh china you know it's just
00:42:45.920 reading something i can't remember where i read it this morning um but uh some analysis that
00:42:51.880 the american dollar is going to lose its reserve uh currency status you know in the in the coming
00:42:59.500 days months years whenever and china is making a move to you know basically have a a multi or bipolar
00:43:09.420 uh powered world uh if we japan looks like it's falling apart economically we're not doing so
00:43:19.720 great europe's not doing so great there's a war going on if this thing spirals out of control what's
00:43:26.460 to stop china from taking taiwan and then just gobbling the world right so they are obviously looking very
00:43:35.160 closely at what was going to happen with ukraine and russia um that that didn't happen as fast as
00:43:40.580 uh most of our strategic level thinkers leaders talking heads uh anticipated uh which was about three
00:43:46.760 four days uh russia's going to roll through ukraine and a lot of that is due to zelinski and i still
00:43:52.060 am curious as to why russia did not decapitate that government ahead of time um take out the leader
00:43:58.420 first and i think it's because they uh they thought oh this is just an actor um kind of like uh ronald
00:44:03.660 reagan before he as he first started into into politics um and they they just they discounted
00:44:08.680 how he could galvanize both his country and the world uh against russia so i think that was a
00:44:14.940 strategic level mistake and they should have anticipated that one and even and we thought
00:44:18.940 the same thing we offered him uh refuge we said we'll we'll take you out of the country and we
00:44:23.280 the way that was asked and the way that was talked about was so casual it seemed as though we just
00:44:28.200 thought oh for sure the leader of the country is going to pick up and go um and uh russia probably
00:44:34.080 thought the same thing uh but that did not happen and now we have the situation that we have now
00:44:38.940 essentially a war of attrition um and we'll see how that uh we'll see how that that that ends up but
00:44:44.620 china and currency that is that is a major play here and a major component of this that no one is
00:44:50.160 talking about so i'm glad you are and china can look at things obviously they can look they look in
00:44:55.840 decades they look in centuries uh we look at things in four-year election cycles maybe eight years for
00:45:01.820 the real deep thinkers among us but china can take a breath um and they can see what happened in ukraine
00:45:07.800 they can take a breath on taiwan and they can uh they can look at this long term uh and that is the
00:45:14.980 advantage that they have over us they have their problems too they have population problems the one
00:45:19.800 child policy and all that coming to fruition there's their lockdowns their mandates uh they have a lot of
00:45:24.660 issues to deal with as well internally um but they can deal with those issues and take a breath on
00:45:30.420 the strategic front because we're doing a pretty good job of destroying ourselves from the inside
00:45:34.420 right now so a little strategic patience on their part uh really plays into their hands talking to
00:45:40.680 jack carr the author of uh in the blood and the terminal list which is coming out on uh netflix soon
00:45:47.240 uh i own the uh paramount studios here in uh in dallas it was an old movie lot back in the 80s
00:45:55.400 and i have some of i have an old uh ship uh that was used in a mini series back in the 80s um
00:46:03.580 and it was winds of war you're really yeah you're really now in the the best time to be a writer
00:46:12.680 because now these movies can be made in episodes and they don't bastardize the book usually
00:46:20.640 wow that's amazing that you that uh you have that and i've been there on chad prather's show
00:46:26.340 so i've been into i've been in the back rooms there oh my gosh the things that you have and
00:46:30.220 it was amazing let me know next time you're here i'll i'll take you on a tour and show you some of
00:46:35.300 the cool stuff we have um thank you you have a lot of amazing things and winds of war was that's an
00:46:40.060 incredible book and more people read that and worn remembrance and that was their gateway into
00:46:44.400 non-fiction studying history to hopefully apply those lessons going forward and wisdom we'd all
00:46:49.000 be in a better place jack carr um in the blood is out right now and coming soon the terminal list to
00:46:56.940 netflix please jack let me know next time you're in town i'd i'd love to take you on a quick tour god
00:47:03.860 bless you
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