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00:00:00.000 And I don't know if I've laughed so hard as today, on today's program, and it was not about O.J. Simpson dying, surprisingly, because I think it's too soon to joke about his dad.

00:00:12.540 I think that's clear.

00:00:13.720 Right, that's very clear.

00:00:14.960 But we talked about several things that are going on in today's world that you really need to know about that you're probably not hearing anywhere else.

00:00:24.760 First of all, I talked a little bit about Israel and why that matters in a way that I don't think, well, I might even get in trouble for, you know, maybe rabbis and priests and everybody else.

00:00:41.620 But talking about God, why it's important and why we're possibly missing that boat.

00:00:48.500 And also, Pat corrected me on being too harsh on Congress.

00:00:55.400 Yeah, some genius coming out of some Congress people's mouths.

00:00:59.540 Absolute genius.

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00:02:44.420 One of the people quoted in the new report from Bloomberg says,

00:02:48.520 It's just a matter of when, not if, Iran will attack Israel. 0.76

00:02:55.360 The head of the U.S. Central Command is expected to visit Israel today for consultations with

00:03:02.760 Defense Minister of Israel and other officials to discuss the threat of an Iranian attack.

00:03:09.400 And I don't know about you, but the people who brought us the withdrawal from Afghanistan, 0.99

00:03:13.860 I'm certainly glad they're over there giving advice to Israel.

00:03:18.520 You know, I'm just glad we're there.

00:03:20.340 You know, I, I, uh, you know, I'm a big Israel supporter, but I don't want to fight any of 1.00

00:03:26.680 their wars.

00:03:27.300 You know, I'm for, Hey, let them fight their own war.

00:03:31.860 They're a country.

00:03:32.920 They're capable.

00:03:34.160 They at least recognize the evil in Iran. 1.00

00:03:37.380 We don't really do that anymore.

00:03:39.920 So let them fight it.

00:03:41.680 I think we have other things to do.

00:03:44.620 Look, here's, here's one thing I want to talk to you about today.

00:03:47.240 I see a growing trend in the right that I find a little disturbing, just a little bit.

00:03:54.040 Uh, some people are calling it a, a move towards anti-Semitism or maybe anti-Zionism.

00:03:59.420 Um, I think it personally has to do more with the way the conservative movement is detaching

00:04:05.460 itself from Christian, uh, Christian identity, if you will.

00:04:09.480 You know, it's just the, the, the Southern Baptists, uh, it's, it's, it doesn't play the role that

00:04:19.520 it used to play.

00:04:21.400 Christianity is not playing the role it used to play in our society.

00:04:25.320 And I personally see this as a tragedy.

00:04:27.900 He's a Christian.

00:04:29.340 He's a Christian identitarian.

00:04:31.240 No, no, uh, uh, no, nope.

00:04:35.000 I don't want a church running the country.

00:04:38.800 I want the country run by the constitution, but I would love churches and people of Judeo-Christian

00:04:46.760 faith because that faith teaches peace, love, love thy neighbor, all of that stuff.

00:04:52.980 People who actually live that, which there's very few people.

00:04:57.060 I mean, I, myself included, I don't think I'm, I'm not necessarily the best example of

00:05:02.200 a Christian.

00:05:03.420 Um, but I try to be, I try to be a better man every day.

00:05:09.020 The religious right has been shamed into the closet and I'm afraid there is a future coming 1.00

00:05:18.260 where the right isn't guided by God, but by power.

00:05:21.200 And then what is the difference between us?

00:05:23.560 Honestly, if we're just guided by power, what are they guided by?

00:05:27.260 Power.

00:05:28.420 And I see the turn away from Israel as evidence that the new right doesn't want to submit 0.98

00:05:34.860 to God.

00:05:36.400 Not because the nation state of Israel is completely righteous.

00:05:39.720 I don't know.

00:05:40.280 I don't think they are.

00:05:41.580 I mean, I like Benjamin Netanyahu, but he's got some problems.

00:05:44.660 You know what I'm saying?

00:05:45.140 You know, I don't want America to have to subsidize another nation state, any nation state.

00:05:52.840 I don't want to go fight anybody else's foreign wars.

00:05:56.940 But the fact that God chose the land of Israel as his nation is kind of an unavoidable fact.

00:06:05.300 I mean, why do you think the Muslims want to destroy so much of the history of Israel? 0.99

00:06:18.200 Because in the land of Judea, there's archaeological evidence that it was run and named after the

00:06:27.440 Jews, Judea. 0.95

00:06:30.480 Now, does Israel deserve this?

00:06:33.740 I don't know.

00:06:35.680 But, you know, I read from the Bible. 0.99

00:06:39.520 On the contrary, who are you, you foolish person, who answers back to God? 0.96

00:06:45.820 The thing molded will not say to the molder, why did you make me like this, will it? 0.98

00:06:51.480 Or does the potter not have a right over the clay to make from the same lump one object for

00:06:58.940 honorable use and another for common use?

00:07:03.500 Do you have your Bibles with you?

00:07:07.300 Here's the problem.

00:07:08.760 In today's world, because God said so, you know, is rarely, and I don't think dad really

00:07:14.600 wants to, I mean, he may say that from time to time because he just, well, he's God, so

00:07:18.700 he doesn't get pissed off.

00:07:19.800 But I don't know, in his way, he's got to be like us as parents, where we're like,

00:07:25.060 because I can't do it once in a while.

00:07:29.760 But it's not a compelling answer for the new right, because we're setting up our own reason

00:07:36.120 as our God.

00:07:39.300 Now, you know, one of my favorite phrases comes from Thomas Jefferson when it comes to religion,

00:07:43.640 above all things, fix reason firmly in her seat, and question with boldness even the

00:07:49.620 very existence of God.

00:07:50.780 For if there be a God, he must surely honor reason and honest questioning over blindfolded

00:08:00.460 fear.

00:08:00.820 So God doesn't ask us for blindfolded faith.

00:08:05.980 You know, we don't have to all be in lockstep on the interpretation of what Scripture says.

00:08:11.580 As Paul says, heaven forbid, come let us reason together.

00:08:18.400 This is Isaiah.

00:08:20.280 But at the end of the day, when we've wrestled with God like Jacob and hurt ourselves, do we

00:08:25.300 submit?

00:08:27.940 That's the question.

00:08:28.880 Zachariah said, the Lord who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the

00:08:41.840 earth, who forms the human spirit within a person declares, I'm going to make Jerusalem

00:08:47.680 a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling.

00:08:52.140 And on that day, when the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem 0.97

00:08:59.240 an immovable rock for all the nations.

00:09:02.800 All those who try to move it will be cut into pieces.

00:09:06.860 Now, I don't like that last part.

00:09:10.200 Okay, that last part is like, I don't know.

00:09:12.480 I don't think we should do that.

00:09:14.000 Now, he's got a couple of pretty serious rules, you know.

00:09:17.440 He's got 10, and I think all 10 of those have shown me in my lifetime, yeah, you know what?

00:09:25.080 I think this God guy has something going for him.

00:09:27.680 I think he knows a little bit more than I do, because I like to break almost all of those

00:09:32.840 rules, you know.

00:09:34.380 Haven't done the murder one.

00:09:36.200 It doesn't really appeal to me, but hey, to each his own.

00:09:40.660 But every one that I have broken, I've regretted afterwards.

00:09:44.700 I've been like, you know what?

00:09:47.440 That Mo guy, when he walked up to the hill, you know, and he got those tablets, and he 1.00

00:09:53.740 was like, hey, I got just 10 of them.

00:09:56.660 You know, I've broken probably, I don't know, nine, because I know I didn't do the murder

00:10:04.940 one.

00:10:05.260 So I've probably broken nine, and every single one of them, I've gone, hmm, not such a good

00:10:11.760 idea.

00:10:12.140 Now, none of those say, oh, by the way, if you do this, I'm going to cut you into pieces.

00:10:20.440 You know, I...

00:10:21.360 As much as I don't like the smoting part of the Bible, there's a lot of smoting in the 0.69

00:10:29.080 Bible.

00:10:31.100 Personally, I think it's not God getting mad at us.

00:10:34.720 I think it's actually just the way he set up the universe.

00:10:39.900 You do these things, it's going to leave a mark.

00:10:44.700 It's like there's patio doors all over in our life, and God's just there going, there's

00:10:50.300 a patio door.

00:10:51.080 It's closed.

00:10:52.180 Don't run.

00:10:52.940 Don't run.

00:10:53.640 You're going to hit...

00:10:54.300 Okay, that's going to leave a mark.

00:10:55.540 I happen to believe the Bible is true, and the older I get, the more important it becomes

00:11:05.200 to me.

00:11:05.620 I believe every word.

00:11:07.480 It doesn't mean I understand it, but I believe God stretched out the heavens, laid the foundation,

00:11:15.140 and formed humans, the human spirit.

00:11:18.260 He formed everything.

00:11:19.020 So, I also believe that anybody who tries to move Israel, which is a spiritually loaded 1.00

00:11:27.660 word that extends beyond the modern nation-state of Israel, but still includes it, will be cut

00:11:32.960 to pieces.

00:11:34.160 Now, that's not a political opinion.

00:11:37.160 It's also not an unbiased one that I came, you know, only using my reason.

00:11:41.660 You know, look, I'm smarter than you.

00:11:43.320 I figured this out.

00:11:44.400 No, uh-uh.

00:11:45.300 No, I'm not.

00:11:46.120 I just happen to believe what God says he means, and some people don't, and that's fine.

00:11:55.100 Like I said before, a lot of people no longer believe.

00:12:02.880 A lot of people no longer go, you know, I don't know.

00:12:08.320 The smoting part does kind of worry me.

00:12:10.860 I don't think God's going to pound us all into salt.

00:12:23.160 I think our actions pound us all into salt.

00:12:28.080 There is something to this whole Jews keep getting persecuted thing.

00:12:33.800 Maybe I'll share that with you today.

00:12:38.980 I was talking to a rabbi just a few weeks ago, and I told him this theory, and he said,

00:12:45.180 have you talked about that on the air?

00:12:47.600 And I said, no, not really.

00:12:48.980 I don't think so.

00:12:50.700 He's like, you really need to.

00:12:51.820 I've never heard that, and I think that's right.

00:12:53.760 Maybe I'll share that with you today, but the tides are turning in an anti-God direction.

00:13:02.780 Anti-Semitism is a symptom of that disease, and that disease becomes evil.

00:13:09.400 Evil.

00:13:10.720 You're seeing evil everywhere, right?

00:13:14.860 I mean, isn't it pretty clear for most people, even if you don't believe in God?

00:13:18.720 I mean, I have an atheist friend who I said to him.

00:13:22.660 It was James Lindsay.

00:13:23.840 James, I know you don't believe in God, but I mean, I can't describe what I'm seeing in

00:13:29.640 any way other than evil, and he's like, oh, yeah, definitely evil.

00:13:33.700 I mean, you mean evil the way I mean evil?

00:13:35.840 Yeah, definitely evil, Glenn.

00:13:38.460 I mean, even atheists can see.

00:13:41.500 This isn't normal.

00:13:43.100 Well, I think we've run through several glass patio doors, and it's going to leave a mark.

00:13:55.040 It's scary to see people using the Bible or God to support anti-Israel or anti-Jewish ideas.

00:14:03.820 I pray it only seems to be a growing trend, but I don't think so.

00:14:07.900 When you see these things, it's probably pretty good to stop.

00:14:16.220 After you've got, you're picking the glass out of your face, you might want to stop and

00:14:19.860 go, okay, all right, what made me do that?

00:14:25.900 What in my life has me running through patio door after patio door?

00:14:32.020 We need to search for that.

00:14:41.240 Because I believe a God that is so powerful that can rise people from the dead.

00:14:47.340 Oh, he can't do that.

00:14:48.580 That's a myth.

00:14:49.220 Okay, well, whatever.

00:14:51.100 Have fun in your next patio door.

00:14:53.980 Those who can, a God who can raise people from the dead, I don't think spiritual death is

00:14:59.820 that much of a challenge for him, you know?

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00:16:36.080 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:16:37.560 We want to give you Catherine Herridge and her testimony regarding freedom of the press and

00:16:45.740 what she's gone through in a hearing in Washington currently going on.

00:16:51.080 As you know, in February, I was held in contempt of court for refusing to disclose my confidential

00:16:56.320 sources on a national security story.

00:16:58.980 I think my current situation can help put the importance of the Press Act into context.

00:17:04.660 One of our children recently asked me if I would go to jail, if we would lose our house, and

00:17:11.540 if we would lose our family savings to protect my reporting sources.

00:17:15.760 I wanted to answer that in this United States, where we say we value democracy and the role

00:17:21.660 of a vibrant and free press, that it was impossible, but I could not offer that assurance.

00:17:27.740 The Bipartisan Press Act, which came out of this House Committee, will put an end to the sort of

00:17:32.860 legal jeopardy that I have experienced firsthand in the federal courts.

00:17:37.680 And without the legislation, more journalists will run the uncertainty of the contempt gauntlet

00:17:42.960 in the future.

00:17:44.220 This legislation will provide protections for every working journalist in the United States,

00:17:49.420 now and for the next generation.

00:17:52.420 The legislation provides strong protections at the federal level for reporters and their

00:17:56.660 sources.

00:17:57.800 It would block litigants and federal government from prying into a reporter's files, except

00:18:02.740 when there's an imminent threat of violence, including terrorism and in defamation cases.

00:18:08.080 At the state level, similar rules are already in place to protect press freedom.

00:18:13.320 It is my sincere hope that the passage of the Press Act will provide similar protections

00:18:18.660 at the federal level.

00:18:19.860 I hope that I am the last journalist who has to spend two years in the federal courts fighting

00:18:26.760 to protect my confidential sources.

00:18:29.440 My current situation arises from a Privacy Act lawsuit.

00:18:34.020 I am only a witness in the case.

00:18:36.660 It is not common for these cases to reach the stage of holding a reporter in contempt.

00:18:41.560 But when such cases happen, they have profound consequences, impacting every journalist in the

00:18:48.340 United States.

00:18:49.820 Forcing a reporter to disclose confidential sources would have a crippling effect on investigative

00:18:55.580 journalism.

00:18:56.720 Because without reliable assurances of confidentiality, sources will not come forward.

00:19:02.640 The First Amendment provides protections for the press because an informed electorate is at

00:19:08.400 the foundation of our democracy.

00:19:10.960 If confidential forces are not protected, I fear investigative journalism is dead.

00:19:17.440 Each day, I feel the weight of that responsibility.

00:19:21.320 As you know, I was held in contempt of court for upholding the basic journalistic principle

00:19:25.600 of maintaining the pledge of confidentiality to my sources.

00:19:29.680 I have complete respect for the federal court and the judicial process, and I'm not here to litigate

00:19:35.520 the case, it will play out before the appellate court in Washington, D.C.

00:19:40.580 But the fact that I have been fighting in the courts for two years and that I am now facing

00:19:45.440 potentially crippling fines of $800 a day to protect my reporting sources underscores the

00:19:52.840 vital importance of the press act.

00:19:55.700 When you go through major life events, as I have in recent weeks, losing your job, losing your company

00:20:02.620 health insurance, having your reporting files seized by your former employer, and being

00:20:08.220 held in contempt of court gives you clarity.

00:20:11.340 The First Amendment, the protection of confidential sources, and a free press are my guiding principles.

00:20:18.860 They are my North Star.

00:20:20.800 When I was laid off in February, an incident reinforced in my mind the importance of protecting

00:20:27.480 confidential sources.

00:20:29.420 CBS News locked me out of the building and seized hundreds of pages of my reporting files, including

00:20:36.240 confidential source information.

00:20:38.740 Multiple sources said they were concerned that by working with me to expose government corruption

00:20:44.180 and misconduct, they would be identified and exposed.

00:20:47.860 I pushed back, and with the public support of my union, SAG-AFTRA, the records were returned.

00:20:54.880 CBS News' decision to seize my reporting records crossed a red line that I believe should never

00:21:02.460 be crossed again by any media organization in the future.

00:21:06.620 Okay, stop.

00:21:08.120 Let me tell you, we are facing a—let me just start here.

00:21:13.660 The Committee on Un-American Activities, was that a good thing or a bad thing?

00:21:22.680 I think it's perceived as a bad thing.

00:21:25.380 The way it was done—

00:21:26.860 Was a bad thing.

00:21:27.540 Was a bad thing.

00:21:28.320 Yeah.

00:21:28.620 Okay.

00:21:29.840 Actually going and finding, but—and going out and arresting people for what they believed,

00:21:37.640 et cetera, et cetera.

00:21:38.640 Not a good thing.

00:21:39.320 Not a good thing.

00:21:40.300 Not a good thing.

00:21:40.840 Firing people because they happened to be a communist.

00:21:44.720 Not a good thing.

00:21:47.100 And not just because they're a communist.

00:21:49.740 Hollywood would have kept them going. 0.88

00:21:52.220 It was the government leaning on them and saying, you know what?

00:21:57.820 Who else?

00:21:59.260 Who else?

00:21:59.760 Maybe you're a communist.

00:22:01.240 We all know that was wrong.

00:22:04.040 There's going to come a time, very soon, I think, of when everybody knows this is wrong.

00:22:13.920 Everybody knows.

00:22:15.440 You're on the wrong side of history.

00:22:18.580 And it used to be hard to say that because you just don't—it wasn't as clear as it is right now.

00:22:28.140 But everything that we're seeing going on, you are on the wrong side of history.

00:22:34.220 Now, George Soros' number two guy met with my number two guy years ago and delivered what I regard and everybody who was part of this regard as a threat.

00:22:49.580 It is the reason why I did the Puppet Master three-day series on George Soros, because on the advice of a very good friend, and he knew George Soros, when he said to me,

00:23:05.420 wait, tell me the story again, because I was calling him for some advice, and he said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:23:14.100 You got to get on the air right away, and you have to make everybody understand that you are the number one target from George Soros, that you are his main enemy, because there's only safety in the spotlight.

00:23:34.840 And so that's why I exposed him as much as I did.

00:23:37.800 They were trying to get me to back off, and the word that was given to one of the guys who worked with me, was an executive vice president at the time, Joel Cheatwood.

00:23:50.180 He was told by the Soros, you know, number two guy, that your boss is hurting my boss, and this is going to end, and you need to send your boss that message.

00:24:02.480 He's going to stop doing this, and Joel Cheatwood said, no, I know my boss, and I don't think he's going to stop, and then it was said, the ship is about to set sail, and you're either on the ship or you're not, but there's no turning back.

00:24:27.200 You will be left behind, and Joel said to him, well, I'm pretty sure my boss would rather be standing on the dock.

00:24:36.040 So, here's the thing.

00:24:42.820 They believe that everything is a done deal.

00:24:47.680 They believe that this ship has already sailed, that we are just holding on to old antiquated ideas, and a new world order is coming.

00:24:59.520 You don't want to be on that ship.

00:25:04.640 That ship is a very dangerous ship that is just riddled with pathogens.

00:25:11.540 It's riddled with evil.

00:25:15.820 It's riddled with just horrible ideas that have been discredited for centuries.

00:25:24.040 The principles that will last, and I don't know how long it's going to take.

00:25:29.080 If we lose them, as Ronald Reagan said, the generation that loses them will never see them regained again.

00:25:37.520 Let's not have that be us.

00:25:39.300 We are very, very close to losing them.

00:25:43.540 They think they're winning.

00:25:46.620 I think they're scared.

00:25:49.260 I think they're terrified.

00:25:52.280 Why else would they be going after Catherine Arridge?

00:25:56.000 Why would you?

00:25:57.380 One person, one Chinese spy was found.

00:26:02.940 She has the source that pointed the finger and said, he's a Chinese spy.

00:26:08.060 He's infiltrated us.

00:26:11.460 Why would our government, A, not want to stop Chinese spies? 0.76

00:26:18.020 When?

00:26:19.500 When?

00:26:21.020 Okay?

00:26:21.840 Why would our government not want to do that?

00:26:24.160 Who has enough power to tell the Justice Department, go after them?

00:26:29.020 I want to know who that source is.

00:26:31.300 For what reason?

00:26:34.160 To punish them for blowing the whistle on a Chinese spy?

00:26:39.820 Hmm.

00:26:43.880 They think they're going to win.

00:26:47.260 But they are also terrified because the elections are happening all over the world.

00:26:55.140 We're going to see what happens in Europe.

00:26:58.360 Now, Europe doesn't have, I mean, they had Russell Brand.

00:27:06.340 But have you heard much from Russell Brand?

00:27:08.360 They have just decimated Russell Brand.

00:27:11.520 He was everywhere.

00:27:13.180 And he was the voice of waking people up on the World Economic Forum, etc., etc., all across Europe.

00:27:21.000 And people were waking up.

00:27:23.320 Well, they destroyed him.

00:27:25.500 Destroyed him.

00:27:28.080 They can't afford to have people wake up at this point.

00:27:32.240 Because they know the minute you truly wake up, it's over.

00:27:36.780 It's over.

00:27:38.000 You're not going to allow them to take away your rights.

00:27:42.320 There is a special we did last night that I really want you to watch.

00:27:48.180 It's up on YouTube.

00:27:49.940 You can get it on Blaze TV now.

00:27:52.100 We're going to talk about it next hour and give you some of the things that we spoke about.

00:27:56.160 But it is, you're about to lose the republic.

00:28:02.200 How do you know when you're a banana republic?

00:28:05.560 When your politicians can go in as a bus driver and leave as one of the richest people in the country, right?

00:28:16.800 When you have politicians go in as an average person and leave as multimillionaires, something's wrong.

00:28:30.340 We're either going to solve this quickly, or we're going to die a quick death.

00:28:41.080 The republic will be over soon.

00:28:44.760 But it'll be up to us.

00:28:47.040 And the only thing we need to do is inform ourselves, inform our friends, and then stand up for what you know to be true.

00:28:55.620 You know it's not right to have the press, have the government come after them because they want the source of the whistleblower that blew the whistle on a Chinese spy?

00:29:08.800 That's not political.

00:29:09.940 That's not left-right.

00:29:10.780 That's not Democrat-Republican.

00:29:12.300 That's a Chinese spy. 0.69

00:29:16.400 You know that's not right.

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00:29:23.920 James, how are you, sir?

00:29:27.040 Hey, Glenn, how are you?

00:29:28.300 Good.

00:29:28.880 That was a great documentary that you were a part of last night.

00:29:36.400 Well, I appreciate that.

00:29:38.160 What is the...

00:29:40.100 If you had to tell somebody in one fact, what do you think the fact is that makes people go, whoa, what?

00:29:49.620 Well, you know, there's so many to choose from.

00:29:54.480 I mean, I guess, you know, if for most Americans, wars, pandemics, these things are not business opportunities.

00:30:04.020 They're not opportunities to make some quick cash.

00:30:06.160 But the reality is that in Congress, if you're sitting up there on the Hill, you can take advantage of those opportunities, and people do.

00:30:14.800 You know, Nancy Pelosi always says, I don't, no, I don't, I don't, I have nothing to do with the, you know, the investments in my life.

00:30:25.720 It's my husband.

00:30:26.680 He's just a great investor.

00:30:28.700 He's like a world-class, never-seen-before kind of investor to do what they do with their money, right?

00:30:37.400 Well, yeah.

00:30:38.140 I mean, it seems pretty clear what's going on.

00:30:40.120 It's tough, though, because the evidentiary standards for proving something like, you know, quote-unquote insider trading, they're very difficult to meet.

00:30:47.180 And the reality is...

00:30:48.480 Yeah, for them.

00:30:49.680 If you have that kind of inside information, and you have a sense of what's going to happen before it does, and what stocks are going to pop before anyone else does, you know, yeah, it's fairly clear that you're not supposed to then start making trades.

00:31:02.980 But you can, you know, you can say a kind word to a family member, to a staff member, to relatives of a staff member, and there's really nothing legally to stop them from taking action on that.

00:31:15.320 So it's a system that's ripe for abuse.

00:31:17.720 There's a couple of things here.

00:31:18.700 Let me play a cut seven here. 0.93

00:31:20.440 This is George Santos exposing how the congressional leaders silence opposition and what would happen to Congress if, you know, people started actually looking into their stock trading.

00:31:33.140 I'm thinking, I want to go sign on to Abigail Spanberger's bill on individual stock trading.

00:31:38.960 I was told that if I signed, co-sponsored a bill and made too much voluminous flair over it, that I wouldn't be seated.

00:31:47.980 So I shut up.

00:31:49.620 Who told you that?

00:31:51.080 I had staff from the majority, from leadership, tell me that to my face on the house floor.

00:31:58.160 Like, the threats that fly around are just absolutely insane.

00:32:02.420 My very first classified briefing, which I unfortunately can't tell you guys for obvious reasons, unless you guys want me to be tried. 0.96

00:32:09.500 Then you'd have to kill me.

00:32:10.280 Or I'd be tried for treason. 1.00

00:32:13.600 Maybe both.

00:32:15.180 Both, right?

00:32:17.040 But it becomes a real issue because you hear this information in an instant and you're like, oh, wow.

00:32:25.320 I know this before the country.

00:32:28.740 If that level of scrutiny that you received in Congress was applied to anyone else in that building or the people who are at the top of both parties, what do you think would have happened to them?

00:32:37.420 You'd be running 535 special elections today if they were real.

00:32:42.900 If they apply the same level of scrutiny to me, you'd vacate the whole building.

00:32:46.920 Why was George Santos selected to be the one who talked to you?

00:32:54.540 Well, Glenn, it's pretty simple, really.

00:32:57.320 We reached out to just about everyone who is involved or might be involved, whether in a good way or a bad way, with these kinds of trading practices.

00:33:10.300 And we were stonewalled.

00:33:12.520 Ro Khanna, Rep Ro Khanna, seemed like he might be interested.

00:33:17.660 He played footsie with us, ghosted us.

00:33:19.980 A bunch of other people, including the sponsor, co-sponsor of that bill that George Santos mentioned there, co-sponsor with Chip Roy, who we did talk to.

00:33:30.300 We got him in the dock.

00:33:32.240 Everyone else just a big nope.

00:33:34.600 So it was fascinating.

00:33:35.780 I mean, Matt Gaetz, George Santos, you know, these guys are considered mavericks or worse by a lot of even Republicans.

00:33:44.160 But, you know, when those are the only guys who are willing to speak to you, it's because there's a code of silence just about it.

00:33:50.960 It's like an omerta, and it's very tough to penetrate.

00:33:53.620 So, you know, we were very grateful to be able to get the inside scoop from those guys because, you know, they have been through fire, and they are willing to say what others aren't.

00:34:02.020 Here is Matt Gaetz from the special last night.

00:34:06.340 Congressman Gaetz offered to take us on a tour.

00:34:09.060 So one of the committees where people have a lot of information is the Appropriations Committee, because they can view almost any vector of government funding.

00:34:19.520 And so, you know, this is Mr. Rutherford's office.

00:34:23.280 He's on the Ethics Committee and the Appropriations Committee.

00:34:25.720 152 stock trades.

00:34:28.680 Stocks go through the roof and, you know, actually bought Raytheon stock the day that Russia invaded Ukraine.

00:34:36.780 Yeah, that's a big one.

00:34:37.860 Yeah, I mean, imagine if every American could make money off of war.

00:34:42.900 Yeah, setting aside the whole shame and ethics questions.

00:34:46.500 How many more on our hit list here?

00:34:48.700 There are a few more.

00:34:49.800 I wish there were fewer on the hit list.

00:34:51.960 I wish we could only stop at one or two offices.

00:34:54.980 But as it turns out, so energy is a sector that sees a lot of congressional stock trading.

00:35:01.820 Sure.

00:35:02.000 And we have members who are on the Energy Subcommittee of Appropriations, like Michael Guest, chairman of the Ethics Committee.

00:35:09.700 And he's traded somewhere between tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars in energy stocks.

00:35:14.480 He's been buying online gaming stocks and just making a killing on them.

00:35:18.540 So you would think that the people that were on the Ethics Committee would be your best allies in this fight.

00:35:24.000 But indeed, they're some of the most prolific traders.

00:35:26.180 And not only trading, but in the case of Mr. Guest, trading in an area where he has access to energy information more so than almost any other American.

00:35:35.580 And no indication that he wants to maybe slow down, pump the brakes, recognize that there might be some appearance of impropriety here?

00:35:41.420 It seems as though the pace is only accelerating.

00:35:43.540 So let me go back to a bigger point, James.

00:35:52.760 What does this say about why these people are hanging out so long in Congress, why they just never seem to retire?

00:36:00.420 Well, look, you know, I asked George Santos when he first got an inkling of how much patronage, how much of an insider's club and how much potential for corruption there was when he was in Congress.

00:36:20.000 And he said basically day one, first briefing, you sit down, you know, he said it was eye popping and he realized suddenly the intensity of what he was dealing with.

00:36:31.560 I mean, look, you know, you heard Congressman Gates pointing out that you got guys on the ethics committee, chair of the ethics committee in Congress.

00:36:38.900 And they're setting standards. You know, it's a domino effect.

00:36:42.300 You spend a few minutes on the Hill as an elected rep and you come to understand very quickly that there is there is a choice.

00:36:52.060 Are you on team or are you off team? And this goes beyond just Republican Democrats.

00:36:56.460 This goes to the heart of what is it that we're really doing here and how do we protect our ability as public officials to avail ourselves of the the advantages of being insiders in that system?

00:37:09.800 It is a system that, you know, that really works as designed in that sense.

00:37:15.200 And it's designed to keep people hanging around, taking advantage of what they can in whatever way they can for as long as they can.

00:37:21.580 One of my very good friends is Mike Lee. And Mike tells me all the time, what the hell am I doing here?

00:37:26.800 I am impoverishing myself. I could be out making a good living.

00:37:31.540 And, you know, in his times of of frustration, he'll call me up.

00:37:36.600 But what am I doing? Why am I even here? Well, this is not even good for my family, blah, blah, blah.

00:37:41.940 When you have that kind of atmosphere, when you're not making money, you're it's almost costing you money to work there.

00:37:51.340 That tends to have people come in, do it for a reason and then get out.

00:37:56.120 We have these people who are hanging out for decades.

00:38:00.320 Well, why wouldn't you? If I could get an 80 percent return on my investments year after year after year after year, why wouldn't you?

00:38:11.700 You know, other than it's wrong. But wait a minute, I could double my money if I win two more elections.

00:38:18.060 I could start with one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in a bank account and I could be worth 30 million dollars if I just work here for the next 30 years.

00:38:28.960 Why wouldn't you?

00:38:30.620 Yeah. And you know what, Glenn? I mean, really, what you're what you're alluding to here is that this is really just the tip of the iceberg.

00:38:36.660 Like there is a symbiotic relationship between public officials and major corporations, in some cases, multinational corporations.

00:38:45.620 And this is one facet of that relationship.

00:38:50.140 And the longer that people stay around, the longer those networks develop and reinforce each other and police themselves, the more that both sides of the public sector, private sector divide,

00:39:02.720 the more that divide melts away and it enriches people and it corrupts people and it creates very thick patronage networks that are just very tough to talk people out of participating in.

00:39:16.540 You know, if you do get reelected, then you're back for a second term.

00:39:20.160 And the pressure on you to play ball and to be part of the team is just immense.

00:39:24.740 And, you know, I bet that that some of Mike Lee's colleagues look at him and they go, you know, oh, this guy's a this guy's dope. 0.61

00:39:32.260 This guy's a pansy. You know, he's he thinks he's better than us. 1.00

00:39:36.380 He's you know, he's he for some strange reason. He doesn't want to enrich himself.

00:39:41.600 There's peer pressure. You know, it is sort of like a weaponized high school in a way.

00:39:47.020 Jeez, what a great term. Weaponized high school. That is exactly what it is.

00:39:52.680 James, thank you so much. I appreciate it. God bless.

00:39:56.400 Absolutely. All right. God bless.

00:39:59.080 James is the Blaze Media editor at large.

00:40:02.960 He's also the host of Zero Hour and he is also the host of of this original from Blaze TV.

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00:40:15.660 It premiered last night, bought and paid for how politicians get filthy rich.

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00:40:27.460 Before the premiere, I laid out, I think, one of the most disgusting chalkboards that I've ever done.

00:40:35.380 And it is the dirty trick that Congress, you know, becomes rich on.

00:40:41.140 And you would go to jail if you did the same thing.

00:40:45.220 This is this is what the elites really are.

00:40:50.140 When you say the elites, why would they do that?

00:40:53.120 Why would they why would they do that?

00:40:55.520 Well, if you know war is coming.

00:41:00.440 And you can openly just buy shocks of stocks of Raytheon and Boeing and Lockheed Martin, you know exactly the numbers of what we have left.

00:41:13.440 What companies make those things that were short on if I should showed you last night in this dock.

00:41:20.820 It's amazing.

00:41:21.660 The people who got out of airlines, carnival cruise lines, all of these things before you knew all of that.

00:41:31.640 What was coming with covid before you knew they had already taken their gains and got out before things went down south because they had already been briefed.

00:41:43.440 They're not representing you. 0.67

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