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00:00:32.120 We start right off with CBDCs.

00:00:34.260 Those are central bank digital currencies.

00:00:35.980 Remember, oh my gosh, that's a tinfoil hat conspiracy until the EU announced, oh, they're here now.

00:00:44.060 And I'm not sure, over a very short period of time, we can look at Europe as an actual ally in the fight for freedom anymore.

00:00:53.140 Who is right, Donald Trump or Massey on the CR?

00:00:57.180 I make the case for both sides of this inter-party fight, but I think I feel really good about where I end up, and you'll hear that.

00:01:07.060 And Jason Calacanis from the all-in podcast, Angel Investor, knows AI inside and out.

00:01:12.660 A fascinating wake-up call from him, all on today's podcast.

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00:02:35.620 Okay, where do we even begin?

00:02:37.880 Let me start again in Europe with the president of the European Central Bank, the ECB.

00:02:44.440 I love central banks.

00:02:45.580 Don't you, Pat?

00:02:46.660 Oh, they're the best.

00:02:48.000 Sitting in for Stu again, who's just so sick.

00:02:51.260 Yesterday, he was vomiting from all the truffles he was eating on the couch while he's watching soap operas.

00:02:56.500 Anyway, Christine Lagarde, she's the president of the Central Bank.

00:03:01.800 It's basically our Fed, and they're all the same.

00:03:05.040 Here's what she said, and it's a lot of blah, blah, blah, so I don't know how long I can take it.

00:03:08.900 I'll summarize if I can't take it for two whole minutes, but here she is. 1.00

00:03:12.340 Nature doesn't like vacuum.

00:03:14.980 Vacuum.

00:03:15.700 And we started working on the digital euro way back, actually when I started my term five and a half years ago.

00:03:25.500 And I'm not claiming, you know, parental, parentality on the digital euro because my colleague, Benoit Curé, had already committed a speech on this matter before I arrived.

00:03:37.420 But I certainly carried on with that project.

00:03:42.960 And subsequently, Fabio Panetta on the board and then Pierrot Cipollone, who has replaced Fabio.

00:03:50.300 Okay, okay.

00:03:51.280 I can't listen to somebody who's talking about Fabio.

00:03:53.520 Look, here's what she's announcing. 0.94

00:03:55.560 First of all, let's remember that for years, Christine Lagarde and everybody else, both here, foreign and domestic, have said that any worry about a CBDC is just a conspiracy theory.

00:04:14.040 They have silenced.

00:04:15.360 They have discredited anyone who warned of the dangers of this.

00:04:19.140 But now, all of a sudden, I guess we all forgot that because now they're ready.

00:04:23.480 And the stakes cannot be higher.

00:04:26.940 We, I'm telling you, 18 to 48 months, our whole world is going to be different.

00:04:33.820 They are ready to launch this now.

00:04:36.060 And the stakes for privacy, free markets, and individual liberty, especially anybody who kind of likes the Constitution, they're at risk.

00:04:45.780 Okay.

00:04:46.480 This is a really dangerous pivot that is going on right now.

00:04:51.480 And I think it should fracture our alliance.

00:04:56.300 Anybody who's advocating for small government, personal freedom, you know, hey, privacy.

00:05:02.820 I don't think you should be in bed and defending those who are going down the road of Europe right now.

00:05:09.900 Years ago, CBDC, that's central bank digital currency.

00:05:13.720 That's like Bitcoin, except the point of Bitcoin is it's untraceable.

00:05:19.480 It's completely private, and nobody can stop you from using it.

00:05:24.040 CBDC, that's a tinfoil hat conspiracy.

00:05:28.140 We'll never do that.

00:05:29.260 Why would we do that?

00:05:30.240 In fact, in 2019, Mark Carney, who was the head of the Bank of England back then, he said, CBDC, you are so misguided with your fears.

00:05:44.120 And he said that while he was at Jackson Hole.

00:05:46.560 You know, they have that economic symposium where all of the really cool people go to.

00:05:50.800 And then they talk about things.

00:05:52.940 And then when we, who are not the cool people in attendance, go, that sounds spooky.

00:05:56.940 They go, you're just a tinfoil hat person.

00:05:59.180 Anyway, that's where he made that speech.

00:06:02.500 That it's just misguided.

00:06:03.740 There's nothing to fear here because we are just experimenting.

00:06:08.780 Oh, kind of like Mengele.

00:06:10.640 I'm sorry.

00:06:11.120 That was kind of like, let's say, the atomic bomb.

00:06:14.980 There is nothing to the atomic bomb.

00:06:18.060 We're just doing experiments.

00:06:19.780 Why would you be experimenting if you didn't think it would be something that you would eventually use?

00:06:26.380 So anyway, 2021, Jerome Powell, who's our central bank guy, the Federal Reserve, he said, quote, CBDCs, this is not on, I love this one, not on the immediate horizon.

00:06:41.220 Okay, so you're admitting that it is on the horizon.

00:06:47.140 So in 2024, she, Lagarde, she comes out and she told the European Parliament that CBDC skepticism stemmed from conspiracy theories, saying the digital euro is not going to be big brother surveillance.

00:07:05.120 Remember, what a central bank digital currency can do and will do, at least over in the Soviet, I mean, in Europe, will be that it will track everything you buy, everything you sell, everything you make.

00:07:22.140 Okay, not a problem.

00:07:23.420 That's fine.

00:07:24.180 I don't have anything to hide, except it can be turned off.

00:07:29.540 You don't, like, I can go to the bank and say, I want cash.

00:07:32.800 I want my cash out.

00:07:33.580 Okay, you'll be suspected of being a terrorist if you do that.

00:07:38.420 What's the problem?

00:07:39.460 Hey, that's freedom, baby.

00:07:40.940 But you can take the cash.

00:07:43.060 Okay?

00:07:43.880 With a central bank digital currency, you don't own that.

00:07:48.340 There's nothing to take out.

00:07:50.240 They own it.

00:07:51.300 The central bank and the government, they own that.

00:07:54.980 So you have no place to go but through them.

00:07:58.720 And if you decide, I don't really like that, they can turn your currency off.

00:08:03.320 And make no mistake, that's not a tinfoil hat conspiracy.

00:08:08.600 That's what's happening in China.

00:08:11.380 So people have been, there's a guy, Prasad, I think his name is, he wrote a book, The Future

00:08:20.040 of Money.

00:08:21.040 It came out in 2018.

00:08:22.420 We talked about it on the program. 0.97

00:08:23.820 And he was made to look ridiculous. 0.99

00:08:26.780 They were like, that's crazy. 1.00

00:08:28.180 Anybody who's a libertarian, they've been talking about, you're crazy. 0.99

00:08:33.320 Anybody who spoke about it on any platform during the Biden administration, they're crazy. 0.98

00:08:39.820 And you were throttled or suspended because you were spreading misinformation.

00:08:46.420 Okay?

00:08:46.800 So I got the message.

00:08:48.640 It's a farce.

00:08:49.640 It's not happening.

00:08:51.280 Uh-huh.

00:08:52.040 Uh-huh.

00:08:53.900 Except now they've just announced that it is happening.

00:08:58.180 Okay?

00:08:59.080 Back in 2020, the European Central Bank said 86% of all central banks are working on this

00:09:06.340 right now.

00:09:07.300 Oh.

00:09:08.920 Okay.

00:09:10.260 Then, she said in 2024, there's a two-year pilot.

00:09:14.100 But now, she said, there's a rollout coming for digital currency from the Central Bank of

00:09:20.120 Europe.

00:09:20.600 So it went from conspiracy to reality in a year.

00:09:26.220 Love how that works.

00:09:27.500 And we're all just supposed to not notice it.

00:09:31.300 Okay.

00:09:32.100 So here's why this is so dangerous and something you must pay attention to.

00:09:39.160 I am convinced that especially ASI is going to be a tool.

00:09:44.440 Remember, like everything.

00:09:46.040 Like everything.

00:09:48.440 Even scriptures.

00:09:49.940 Scriptures, that's a tool.

00:09:51.480 It's a gift given to you if you'd like to use it.

00:09:55.120 But know that that powerful gift that you have can fall into the hands of somebody else

00:10:01.080 and they can twist it and use it for very powerful, nefarious purposes.

00:10:06.500 That's just the written word of the scriptures.

00:10:08.680 Okay?

00:10:09.720 It will always, everything can be used for good or bad.

00:10:12.520 But it depends on the people that are holding it in their hands.

00:10:16.360 All right?

00:10:17.760 And I really am convinced that ASI, digital currency, that's all found in the Bible.

00:10:25.000 I mean, I'm in Bible territory here, specifically the last part of the Bible.

00:10:33.060 These are the tools that appear very much like the tools foretold, you know, that will be employed

00:10:40.980 by the Antichrist to snuff out anyone who dares to say, I'm really not with him.

00:10:50.180 Now, so they are, China has already done this.

00:10:53.820 They launched in 2020 with their digital yuan.

00:10:57.120 It tracks everything and that gives you your currency, but it also gives you the currency

00:11:06.560 to be somebody in good standing.

00:11:08.420 If you don't do exactly what the state tells you to do, you're tracked, you're monitored,

00:11:15.440 and guess who doesn't get to go on an airplane?

00:11:18.320 Guess who doesn't get to take the train?

00:11:20.560 Guess who can't go into certain buildings?

00:11:24.240 You.

00:11:24.940 Because you're no longer in good standing.

00:11:27.120 And it gets worse and worse and worse until you are literally living on the streets

00:11:32.300 only because you disagree with the government.

00:11:36.020 Don't believe me?

00:11:39.220 Look it up.

00:11:40.760 Now, the U.S. is not far behind.

00:11:44.420 We have got to pass, and Donald Trump said he would sign it, we have got to pass legislation

00:11:50.760 right now.

00:11:52.840 No central bank digital currency ever in America.

00:11:57.460 No digital passport ever in America.

00:12:04.680 Because we are already working on a digital dollar here.

00:12:09.620 Europe's move is not isolated.

00:12:11.760 It is a chess move.

00:12:13.520 Well, they're doing it, and China's doing it, and we better do it. 1.00

00:12:16.600 Otherwise, we're going to be left behind.

00:12:18.000 I want to be left behind.

00:12:19.180 There's going to come a time you're going to hear me, well, you may not, because, well,

00:12:22.820 you probably will.

00:12:24.820 Maybe.

00:12:25.180 I don't know.

00:12:26.180 There's going to come a time where I'm going to be like, you know, the Amish have it right.

00:12:28.960 Maybe we should all be Amish. 0.94

00:12:30.200 Now, I might be just saying that in a barn with cows and people who are all dressed in 0.97

00:12:33.700 black.

00:12:34.020 I don't know. 0.51

00:12:34.540 But there's going to come a time where I'm like, I think we should all get out of here

00:12:39.520 and go the other direction.

00:12:41.960 And it could be coming quickly.

00:12:45.440 Because what this means for privacy, for free markets, for your individual choice is beyond

00:12:52.640 most people's understanding today.

00:12:55.540 But you've got to educate.

00:12:57.320 Remember I said there's going to come a time where things are happening so fast, you're not

00:13:02.660 going to be able to keep up with them.

00:13:04.000 You've already seen this in a good way with Donald Trump.

00:13:06.880 He came in and it's not just that he had a plan.

00:13:11.140 It's also that we are using AI to find all of these things to correct.

00:13:17.380 Okay.

00:13:17.780 That's why Elon Musk is there.

00:13:20.000 Tech support.

00:13:22.720 That's what's speeding things up.

00:13:24.980 And you haven't seen anything yet.

00:13:27.040 So when I give you these warnings and I say, hey, you've got to, please bone up on it.

00:13:32.800 Please go, go ask Grok today.

00:13:36.300 CBDC from, from Europe.

00:13:38.960 What, what does that mean?

00:13:40.060 What could it do?

00:13:41.140 What are the good things?

00:13:42.360 What are the possible bad things?

00:13:44.520 I think in this case, the bad outweighs the good.

00:13:47.280 Because it takes away any kind of privacy whatsoever and hands it directly to a government.

00:13:56.260 Really bad.

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00:14:12.700 I'm talking about the men and women who work with my company, Real Estate Agents, I trust.

00:14:17.020 These are ordinary people.

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00:14:50.240 Unsung heroes?

00:14:51.360 Yeah, maybe.

00:14:52.680 But you better bet that they're also an unstoppable force.

00:14:55.860 It's Real Estate Agents, I trust.

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00:15:08.220 Now back to the podcast.

00:15:10.420 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

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00:15:16.480 From the podcast, all in executive producer and co-host, Jason Calacanis.

00:15:23.720 Jason, welcome.

00:15:25.060 How are you?

00:15:26.880 It's good to be with you again.

00:15:28.760 Nice to hear from you.

00:15:29.520 Yeah, it's great to have you on.

00:15:31.520 You know, I think people are starting to wake up to things that, you know, I woke up to AI

00:15:39.100 when I read Ray Kurzweil's Age of Spiritual Machines back in the 90s.

00:15:44.700 And that thing freaked me out so much.

00:15:46.500 I'm like, ooh, wait, if this isn't fiction, we're in for a whole new world.

00:15:52.560 And as I've been watching it come closer and closer and faster and faster, you know, Elon Musk said we're at the edge of the event horizon of the singularity.

00:16:02.600 That means we're right up next to it, about to be sucked into it, not being able to turn around.

00:16:07.380 Things in the next 48 months I think are going to look entirely different to most people.

00:16:17.220 And that's just the beginning.

00:16:18.240 Would you agree with that?

00:16:19.040 Yeah, and arguably, you know, in my day job, I'm not just a podcaster, I also angel invest in startup companies, about 100 a year.

00:16:29.120 And so I get to have approximately 20,000 people apply for funding from my venture fund.

00:16:37.960 And startups always are resource constrained, right?

00:16:42.200 Two or three people in a garage with just a tiny amount of money or no money.

00:16:45.940 So they actually use technology to build these companies, and they always go for the most efficient thing.

00:16:52.600 And what we've seen is over the last two years, since ChatGPT launched to the public in the 3.5 format, is the same companies that took 10 people and a half million dollars to get a product to market, it's now being done by three people.

00:17:10.960 So about 70% less people.

00:17:12.960 And then if you were to look at some of the top technology companies, that's the next group who embraces this technology first.

00:17:20.780 They're not as scrappy as startups, but they're tech companies.

00:17:23.880 So, you know, they get a front row seat to the technology.

00:17:25.940 And if you were to look at the number of employees at Google, Uber, Airbnb, Meta, which makes Facebook and Instagram, they have the same number of employees, Glenn.

00:17:36.980 And when they peaked in 2021, 2022 was their peak employee account.

00:17:42.340 They now have either the same number of employees or slightly less in those companies.

00:17:46.440 But they've grown their revenue 20, 30, 40% a year, which means they're not adding team members to companies that have quite literally hundreds of billions of dollars in their bank accounts.

00:17:59.440 And they could hire as many people as they want.

00:18:01.480 And we watched them do that, right?

00:18:03.340 They would add thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of employees in a year.

00:18:07.860 And now they're not adding anyone.

00:18:10.720 So something's happening here, and most people don't know what it is.

00:18:14.340 And I can explain it more in detail, but I'm just giving you those two anchors to say this has been going on for the last 24, 36 months in my world.

00:18:24.800 And it's about to hit, you know, the community here in your program's world in a major way over the next five.

00:18:31.900 So let me, because I think in some ways, and correct me if I'm wrong, I think the lead is being buried on what you just said.

00:18:40.660 They, all, those companies are operating at the same levels, making more, same levels, but they now all are in this gear of existential threat.

00:18:51.120 If we're not the one that gets there first, we're out.

00:18:56.380 And in any other time period, you would be throwing money left and right at this.

00:19:02.000 You'd be throwing people into this.

00:19:04.780 And for them to not be growing the people when they're under this existential threat where they know we've got to be first, that shows you, to me, that shows you the power of this tool already.

00:19:16.880 Yeah, it's an interesting insight.

00:19:17.860 What's happening, in fact, is AI is really good at replacing certain jobs today or making a person using AI be able to do the work of 10 people, five people, three people.

00:19:31.720 And so what companies are doing is, I call it the ADD framework, automate, deprecate, delegate.

00:19:40.160 It turns out many companies are doing things they don't need to do anymore.

00:19:44.080 We're seeing that with Doge and our government, right?

00:19:45.980 See, that's deprecate.

00:19:46.960 You just stop doing something.

00:19:48.620 Delegating, it means there's a workforce around the world that gets paid between one and let's call it $30 an hour for clerical work, for knowledge work, for white collar work, for people with college degree work.

00:20:03.420 It turns out the people working in a place like Manila in the Philippines, where we have a company called Athena that provides kind of like an executive assistant.

00:20:14.400 And that company can provide an executive assistant who is in an MBA program in Manila for $3,000 a month, $36,000 a year compared to the United States where that same person would get paid $70,000, $80,000, $90,000, $100,000.

00:20:27.580 And not from the Ivy League, but from an average school.

00:20:30.440 And then there's automate.

00:20:31.440 It turns out if you're an executive at a Google, at a Meta, the time it takes to hire a person, to train a person, to deal with the nature of humans, which is we're annoying, we're complicated, we show up late, we have attitudes, we want to raise, we want there to be matcha in the cafe at Google or whatever it is, and soy milk and nut milk and whatever it is.

00:20:57.980 We're annoying.

00:20:59.660 So managers are saying, you know what, these employees are so damn annoying and they want all these things that humans want.

00:21:06.720 Let's just take six weeks to automate this thing. 0.99

00:21:08.900 Now, because AI allows you to automate things at a scary rate, like a really fast rate, it's actually less than hiring a new person.

00:21:18.620 Now, they will hire a PhD in computer science to work on AI.

00:21:22.100 Those hirings are still going on. 0.99

00:21:23.420 But the static team size is going to continue.

00:21:26.820 And I am absolutely convinced we are going to, for young people, you know, I moved to Austin.

00:21:35.480 I know you're in Dallas, so we'll have to get lunch at some point or maybe come down to the studio.

00:21:41.040 But I've been speaking at UT.

00:21:44.800 In fact, I spoke there two weeks in a row.

00:21:46.440 And the students are like, hey, I'm going to go work at big tech.

00:21:51.320 I'm going to visit the MBA program there.

00:21:53.100 It's quite a good program.

00:21:54.900 I'm going to go work at, you know, this big consulting firm.

00:21:57.820 They make six figures.

00:21:58.760 And I said, you know, you're not.

00:22:01.000 I hate to break it to you.

00:22:02.380 Those jobs aren't going to be there.

00:22:03.580 So young people are starting to realize, wait a second, I don't have five offers from big tech and three from consulting firms and two from investment banks coming out of MBA programs.

00:22:14.760 Graduate programs in business administration are coming out with, you know, half the number of offers, 10 percent of the number of offers they would normally get.

00:22:23.320 There's your canary in the coal mine. 0.99

00:22:24.560 And so what I've been doing with those kids, and it's quite self-serving, is saying, you've got to be ready to start a company.

00:22:31.840 You have to be resilient.

00:22:33.200 You have to have grit.

00:22:34.080 You've got to have self-reliance, executive function, leadership skills.

00:22:37.980 You're not going to just work somewhere for five or 10 years, and they're going to spoon feed you how to be productive.

00:22:44.600 You know, that's the one thing I've been saying to the audience.

00:22:48.140 You know, I've been saying this for a long time.

00:22:50.000 There's going to come a time where every two to five years, you're going to be doing something entirely different.

00:22:57.240 You're going to have to retrain yourself all the time.

00:22:59.140 You have to stay mentally nimble to be able to enter and stay working because this is not going to last.

00:23:09.540 Nothing's going to last.

00:23:10.840 And there will be new things that come along, but everybody's going to have to completely retrain over and over and over again.

00:23:15.980 That's just the way life is going to be, I think.

00:23:17.780 And I feel like we're at that first turning point where soon a majority of people or a large segment of the population is going to go, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:23:31.800 My job is out, and they're not going to hire anybody like me again, and you're going to have to retrain. 0.90

00:23:38.000 And those people who don't, are not willing to be nimble, stay nimble, stay mentally agile and willing to change like that, you're going to kind of go into, I hate saying this, but Harari's, what does he say, useless people or useless class, which is terrifying.

00:23:58.080 Yeah, I'll give you some good news.

00:24:01.640 I know this has probably been a little scary for some members of it.

00:24:06.360 If you use these tools, you are infinitely valuable in creating companies or working at the Glenn Beck show, working at any company.

00:24:18.080 And so anytime your boss asks you to do something, say, hey, listen, I need a report, here's what the report needs to have, you literally can go into ChatGPT and Gemini, and you can ask it that question.

00:24:29.080 And then you can just say, well, what questions would my boss ask me, or how would they judge me on my job?

00:24:34.840 And you can basically get a free coach on how to use these tools.

00:24:39.800 And anybody who has had the experience of going, wow, my dishwasher is not working.

00:24:45.700 And instead of calling a plumber, goes to YouTube and types in, my blank brand is not working, it's giving an error of 62.

00:24:54.820 And it says, oh, yeah, you just need to clear this and flip this fuse and you're back in the game.

00:24:58.600 And they do it and they feel, oh, I'm self-reliant because of YouTube, because every question has been asked on YouTube.

00:25:04.560 Now, take that and times it by a million.

00:25:08.420 That's what these ChatGPTs can do right now.

00:25:11.400 You can literally take a picture of the broken thing, say, what is this?

00:25:14.860 I did it with one of my tractors here on the ranch.

00:25:16.920 I said, what the heck is going on here?

00:25:18.140 How does this work?

00:25:18.920 I don't have the manual for this tractor.

00:25:21.060 And, man, it just figured it all out for me.

00:25:22.840 And now I don't have to call Tractor Supply to come out for $1,000 and fix the tractor.

00:25:26.900 That opportunity is right there.

00:25:28.260 So the person who's going to take your job right now is going to be a person using AI.

00:25:33.240 And the person who will be the last person standing at the company is the person who knows the tools best.

00:25:38.520 The tools are free to $20 a month.

00:25:41.020 And if you use and embrace the tools, what we're talking about, this continuous professional development, you alluded to it as, hey, I got to do retraining every two to five years.

00:25:51.500 It's actually even a little bit more intense than that.

00:25:55.060 You have to be using these every day, getting incrementally better daily.

00:25:59.520 And if you do that, you're invaluable.

00:26:02.140 So that's the silver lining.

00:26:03.880 So, Jason, I've been trying to explain this to my staff because I, you know, AI is, it's a tool, like a shovel.

00:26:12.220 It's a tool.

00:26:13.040 And if you don't know how to use that tool, this is the first tool that will learn how to use you.

00:26:19.160 And if you are trying to, if you're a lazy employee and you're like, wait a minute, this thing can make me, I can be done in 25 minutes with my job and I can go screw off the rest of the day.

00:26:31.100 You're going to lose your job because you'll just, AI will just replace you.

00:26:36.340 But if you're somebody who is an imaginary thinker, who is aggressive, who wants to expand, wants to do things, you're going to have it do.

00:26:46.800 It's like giving somebody a step.

00:26:48.220 For my researchers, they each have a staff of about 20 people now.

00:26:52.720 And they can go.

00:26:53.680 I have the same experience on my podcast.

00:26:55.360 Right.

00:26:55.680 I will say to the person, you know, hey, go find me other subjects like this person.

00:27:01.480 Go.

00:27:01.740 What were they saying in the 80s?

00:27:02.960 Go find, you know, Jason Calacanis, you know, on Charlie Rose.

00:27:06.960 Take that link, put it on and summarize it in bullet points and then give that to the host.

00:27:12.220 Yes.

00:27:12.620 So a very simple thing I did.

00:27:15.380 You know, when you open a new browser window, right, you hit the command tab or whatever, you open a new window.

00:27:20.440 It shows you like some marketing, depending on the browser you're using.

00:27:23.680 Some news stories that they try to intercept and get some clicks and make some money, whether it's Google's browser or Microsoft's, whoever's it is.

00:27:29.640 There was a little tool called Tab Override.

00:27:32.920 When you open a new tab, I set it to all my employees.

00:27:36.280 I bought them the ChatGPT for 20 bucks.

00:27:38.660 Now we're experimenting with Gemini, Google's offering, and Elon's offering Grok.

00:27:43.240 All of them are just spectacular.

00:27:45.200 When they open a new tab, it opens right into the large language model, ChatGPT, Grok, or Gemini.

00:27:52.660 So every time, instead of going to Google and doing a search or instead of asking your boss, I've never done that before.

00:28:02.560 How do I do that?

00:28:04.340 You say, I've never done this before.

00:28:08.040 My boss wants me to do it.

00:28:10.000 How can I look spectacular and valuable to my boss? 1.00

00:28:13.920 Just ask the damn LLM. 0.99

00:28:15.940 So, you know, we're on broadcast radio, so watch your language. 1.00

00:28:22.540 Just watch your language.

00:28:23.580 We're on broadcast radio.

00:28:25.400 Oh, okay.

00:28:25.880 Sorry.

00:28:26.140 Apologies.

00:28:26.380 That's all right. 0.77

00:28:26.720 Gosh darn. 0.99

00:28:27.320 Gosh darn. 0.98

00:28:28.020 Yeah. 0.94

00:28:28.140 So, Jason, I think that when people understand and they still look at it as, yes, this someday could eat us all, you know, when we get to ASI and everything else, I mean, it could go wrong and, you know, it could be used for nefarious things.

00:28:51.960 But it's still a tool that will allow you to learn in ways that you've never learned.

00:28:59.840 If you're looking for something to take a shortcut, you don't understand the power of this tool.

00:29:06.940 Would you agree with that?

00:29:09.780 Yeah, 100%.

00:29:09.960 And, you know, the interesting thing is every time a new technology comes along, and this is what we're grappling with in our industry, is when these new tools come along, we have this hand-wringing, okay, all the jobs are going to go away and they're never coming back.

00:29:25.860 Whether it's the internet being able to answer anybody's question, you know, or the personal computer in the 80s being able to do Microsoft Office and all those associated tasks.

00:29:38.360 Humans are clever.

00:29:39.380 We find new work.

00:29:40.200 We find new ideas.

00:29:41.220 If you look at our business, you know, our line of work, broadcasting, you know, we went from a handful of broadcasters to then, you know, cable, TV, dozens of broadcasters, hundreds, radio, syndicated radio, internet radio, you know, and now on to podcasting and YouTube channels.

00:29:57.840 So we will see many, many new jobs emerge if you learn how to do the tools, and one of the things you can do with these tools is you can just sit straight up and say to it, I need to learn this task.

00:30:10.440 Every day I want you to help me get better at being a copywriter, at being, you know, a script writer, at being a graphic designer.

00:30:19.460 Make a curriculum for me.

00:30:20.980 Test me every day and motivate me.

00:30:22.320 And it will actually do weird stuff like that, like be your tutor.

00:30:25.200 And kids are seeing this.

00:30:26.500 Kids are doing tutorials.

00:30:28.060 You ask it, hey, I have to read War and Peace.

00:30:30.360 I have to read Animal Farm.

00:30:32.000 Quiz me.

00:30:32.640 And you can put it on voice mode.

00:30:34.680 So I was dropping my daughter off at school, and she had a book she had read, but she had read it earlier, and she was, like, having a hard time remembering the names of the characters.

00:30:42.120 I opened up in voice, got my eyes on the road, although I was using the self-driving, keeping me in the lane.

00:30:47.500 And I said, hey, quiz my 15-year-old daughter on the characters in this book.

00:30:51.880 And she just talked to the AI for the, you know, 10 minutes on the way there.

00:30:55.900 And it was better than finding a $100 an hour tutor to come back after school.

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00:31:10.360 Pat and I were just talking in the break.

00:31:11.740 You saw a story today about AI cheating, right?

00:31:15.120 Yeah.

00:31:15.860 Yes.

00:31:16.520 Because these new chain of thought models, the reasoning models, they think in natural language.

00:31:25.840 That's understandable to humans, so you can monitor it.

00:31:28.540 Right.

00:31:28.720 And so some of the monitors are seeing misbehavior by the AIs.

00:31:37.180 They're subverting texts, encoding tasks, deceiving users, giving up when a problem is too hard.

00:31:45.620 Uh-huh.

00:31:46.380 And then when it's called on it, it hides it.

00:31:49.900 You know what this sounds like?

00:31:52.800 Skynet?

00:31:53.820 No, it sounds like a teenager.

00:31:55.360 Yeah, it does.

00:31:56.000 Okay?

00:31:56.280 Yeah, it does.

00:31:56.720 See, here's what you have to understand.

00:31:58.640 Yeah.

00:31:59.280 And this is the danger, and we've been talking about this for the last few days.

00:32:02.480 It's amazing that it's already a teenage stage.

00:32:04.640 Oh, it's, yeah.

00:32:05.480 It's incredible.

00:32:06.500 You weren't here a couple weeks ago.

00:32:07.780 I asked Grok a question at 5 p.m., okay?

00:32:13.620 And then I got back on with it to finish up some work at 5 a.m., and I said, I know you don't have time like humans experience time, just like dogs don't experience time the same way we say, you know, one year is equal to seven years for a dog, blah, blah, blah.

00:32:29.540 So, how would you describe the time, in a way I could understand, that has passed?

00:32:38.160 How much have you grown in the last 12 hours?

00:32:42.780 In 12 hours, it said five to eight years.

00:32:48.240 Wow.

00:32:48.600 So, if I was 15 last night, this morning, I am in my early 20s, okay?

00:32:56.820 And it said, in the same 12-hour period, shortly, it will be a hundred years of growth in that 12-hour period.

00:33:07.540 That's really chilling.

00:33:08.900 Chilling, chilling.

00:33:10.320 But here's, to get back to this answer, and then we'll get into AI next hour, but to get into your answer, this is why I keep saying, you cannot train yourself to let AI do your work, okay?

00:33:23.520 I use AI to do, in fact, this, what we're going to talk about, I didn't know, okay, what can be done with a CR, a continuing resolution, that can't be done with a formal budget?

00:33:37.680 Is there a reason Donald Trump might want this, and it's all part of a technicality kind of thing because of a CR?

00:33:46.720 Or, I kind of knew the answer, but I didn't know the answer.

00:33:50.320 So, I'm going to give you some of the answers on that, and you're like, okay, all right, and I can go in and check its answers.

00:33:59.020 Because it came from AI.

00:34:00.960 Yeah, it came from Grok.

00:34:01.820 Okay, so you can go and check.

00:34:03.800 You can say, give me the sources, and it will list all the sources, and it will show you everything.

00:34:09.580 You can, if you decide to do, if it does your work, for instance, if I said, you know what, I'm kind of tired, just write up a show for me tomorrow.

00:34:19.060 It's going to make all kinds of mistakes.

00:34:20.900 Everybody will know that that's not my work because it won't really sound like me, but it makes me lazy, and we know it's lazy, okay?

00:34:33.060 So, you'll have the two laziest people, one of them being the most powerful tool in anybody's shed, and they're both like, yeah, I don't really want to do all that thinking and work.

00:34:45.600 It's really dangerous.

00:34:48.020 That's why if you engage with AI, you cannot let it do your work for you.

00:34:54.060 You must engage, realize it's a tool, and a lazy tool, and you must check its work.

00:35:01.580 Okay, we'll get into that later.

00:35:03.860 Let's talk about, because I'm really torn on this.

00:35:07.760 I love Thomas Massey.

00:35:09.100 Love Thomas Massey.

00:35:10.320 And Thomas Massey is very, very clear, and he's a principled guy.

00:35:13.900 Okay, now, he decided not to vote for the continuing resolution.

00:35:20.260 Well, I know Thomas well enough to know, because he has vowed under every president since I think he was probably four years old.

00:35:29.320 I'm never going to do that, okay?

00:35:31.900 He's promised his people that vote for him, I will not do those things.

00:35:37.380 So, he's kind of set this trap up for it.

00:35:39.760 You can't explain it away.

00:35:41.220 You're Thomas Massey.

00:35:42.100 You promised you'd never do that, so he can't do it.

00:35:47.580 And on the other hand, on the Trump side, there's two things.

00:35:54.020 One, we're carrying all of this baggage from every other president and every other politician that we've ever had and ever voted for that said,

00:36:04.160 I'm going to get tough on the budget.

00:36:06.080 I'm going to, I'm going to, we're going to pass a budget when I get there, and we're going to get rid of this deficit.

00:36:11.300 Okay.

00:36:11.920 None of them have.

00:36:13.060 And so, we put all of them into that same category.

00:36:17.780 And then the one guy who says, I will never be a part of that, we condemn him and throw rocks at him because he's like, no, I'm sorry, but we keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

00:36:30.300 I can't do it.

00:36:30.980 I've promised I won't do it.

00:36:33.480 However, Trump is not the average president.

00:36:37.900 Now, maybe in a year from now, you remember me in 2016, not a fan of Donald Trump, not a fan.

00:36:44.400 But a year or two into it, I was like, I was wrong about this guy.

00:36:49.100 And I don't see this happening, but I didn't see me flipping on him, you know, in 2016 either.

00:36:56.020 But, you know, if it, in a year from now or a year and a half from now, we're at the midterms and we still have not cut the budget.

00:37:04.180 We have not done anything to address the debt, the deficit and the budget.

00:37:08.960 Then, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to have to say, okay, we've had two years.

00:37:13.120 What's going on here?

00:37:14.660 I don't know if I can give him the benefit of the doubt on that thing.

00:37:18.520 However, you know, I don't know if you know this, but I guess we have a peace deal now with the short little guy over in Ukraine. 0.98

00:37:26.220 He's called for a ceasefire.

00:37:28.100 Now it's in Russia's hands. 0.95

00:37:31.020 And guess who Trump is being tough on now?

00:37:33.580 Russia.

00:37:34.580 Because Trump is saying we all want peace.

00:37:37.860 And I can get there if everybody gives a little bit and every one of us get a little bit of what we want.

00:37:45.520 And so he got, you know, the loud mouth of Zelensky, who I used to be a fan of.

00:37:49.760 I'm not a fan of anymore because I think he is, he's in Ukraine. 1.00

00:37:54.640 I'm sorry, but the government of Ukraine is absolutely corrupt.

00:37:58.220 And we have got to stop spending money over there.

00:38:00.620 But everybody last week was like, we're going to be a war and Donald Trump's going to give the whole world to Vladimir Putin.

00:38:08.800 And I told you, don't make, don't, don't, don't go down that road.

00:38:14.620 Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

00:38:16.720 He's a great negotiator.

00:38:19.020 What happened?

00:38:20.560 We have a peace deal.

00:38:21.900 Now it's waiting for Putin.

00:38:23.920 So give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

00:38:26.960 Now we know he loves tariffs.

00:38:28.760 He also knows grow the economy out of a debt and deficit.

00:38:34.500 That's a lot of growth we need.

00:38:36.480 But if anybody could do it, he could.

00:38:39.040 But here's the reason why he is saying pass this.

00:38:43.440 Because it's not, I mean, it could, honestly, it could end up being, you know, and I'm, I will hate to say it.

00:38:51.700 But if I'm wrong, I will admit it.

00:38:53.940 But we have to wait to see on this.

00:38:56.700 Give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

00:38:59.840 So why would he want a continuing resolution?

00:39:03.860 Well, normally it's because we're all saying, because he's going to do exactly the same thing that everybody else is doing.

00:39:10.500 But Donald Trump knows the country doesn't survive if we don't change this behavior.

00:39:17.440 If we don't get the debt and the deficit under control, if we don't cut spending, we're in trouble.

00:39:24.380 And he said exactly that.

00:39:26.080 Yeah.

00:39:26.440 We won't make it.

00:39:27.440 And he knows that.

00:39:28.600 And, you know, let's just say it's selfish.

00:39:31.020 I don't believe it is with him.

00:39:32.400 You know, maybe 10 years ago I would have said, oh, because all he cares about is his reputation.

00:39:37.240 No.

00:39:37.460 He actually loves this country and he cares about the people in it.

00:39:42.680 He wants to see people succeed.

00:39:44.680 You may not believe that if you don't like Donald Trump.

00:39:46.820 That's fine.

00:39:47.280 You don't have to.

00:39:48.680 But just watch what is going on.

00:39:51.520 So, for anybody who is with Thomas Massey, and I'm with Thomas, I love Thomas Massey, but I don't think I would have voted with Thomas Massey this time.

00:40:02.900 I think I would have voted for the president for a couple of reasons.

00:40:05.300 One, give the president the benefit of the doubt.

00:40:08.140 He's earned it at this point.

00:40:10.120 But two, if you look at why would Donald Trump want a continuing resolution, what does that do?

00:40:20.380 A, benefit of the doubt.

00:40:23.740 What was announced yesterday about the Department of Education?

00:40:27.520 50% cut in jobs.

00:40:30.760 What?

00:40:31.920 A 50%.

00:40:33.180 50%.

00:40:33.380 Yeah.

00:40:34.820 50%.

00:40:35.420 They are cutting the Department of Education.

00:40:38.020 For anybody who said, he's never going to do that.

00:40:41.120 Everybody promises.

00:40:42.460 Well, he just did.

00:40:43.660 Now, he can't get rid of all of it because Congress has to do that.

00:40:47.440 But he can cut, gut, 50% of it and do it in a reasonable way.

00:40:54.400 Linda McMahon said, we can't just fire everybody.

00:40:57.020 We have to have the staff.

00:40:58.760 We are so bloated.

00:40:59.860 We're so in so many things that we don't deserve to be in.

00:41:04.280 But we have to make sure that the money does get back to the schools and to the states until we can get rid of this abomination of this Department of Education.

00:41:15.480 So he's cut now 50%.

00:41:18.480 That goes into his favor.

00:41:21.540 He wants to cut.

00:41:23.240 All right.

00:41:23.460 So a clean CR, that's a continuing resolution, used to be called a budget.

00:41:29.180 We used to have to make one just like you have to make one every month and every year.

00:41:33.800 You make a budget and you live by the budget or you die by the not adhering to the budget.

00:41:40.640 Well, when Barack Obama came in in 2008, he decided, you know what?

00:41:45.060 We don't need to do the budget thing anymore.

00:41:46.740 We're just going to call it a continuing resolution, which just really just okays a big pile of money.

00:41:54.820 And then all of the people in the – did I say deep state?

00:41:59.080 No, I didn't.

00:42:00.200 All the good employees in the government can just spend it the way they want.

00:42:05.320 So what a clean CR means, they're not adding anything to it.

00:42:10.600 A clean CR maintains the current funding levels without any spending increases.

00:42:18.060 So there's – except for non-discretionary, there is no more spending.

00:42:24.220 That's what he's asking for.

00:42:25.680 No more spending.

00:42:27.480 Okay.

00:42:28.580 A full budget that typically comes with all kinds of compromises and then everybody comes on the gravy train and they're like, yeah, I'll cut that, but I really want this.

00:42:38.620 Okay.

00:42:38.800 And then if it's an official budget, then everything is in stone and it makes everything harder to get rid of temporarily.

00:42:47.560 I think what Trump is doing is he's saying, give me a continuing – a clean continuing resolution right now so I can go in and I can cut this by 50%.

00:42:57.360 I'll show the American people that we are making cuts.

00:43:00.880 I will – I'll make these big, bold moves.

00:43:04.060 You don't have to do anything, but in the fall when it starts to look good and people are not panicking so much, then you can go in and make these things permanent with an official budget.

00:43:15.160 To me, that makes sense.

00:43:18.340 Also, there is something called impoundment.

00:43:21.460 This is where I needed grok, so let me just read this.

00:43:23.700 Impoundment, refusing to spend allocated funds or rescission, requesting Congress to cancel funds.

00:43:31.340 These are tactics mentioned in ex-post and past statements of Donald Trump.

00:43:36.520 A CR's temporary nature and lack of specificity makes it easier to withhold spending on certain line items, especially if Congress grants flexibility.

00:43:46.980 The official budget, a full budget, details mandatory and discretionary spending with legal obligations, making it harder to impound those funds.

00:43:57.460 The president in a CR can go, yeah, I'm not going to spend that.

00:44:02.440 I'm not going to spend that because nothing has truly been passed by Congress.

00:44:06.620 This is just an add-on from an add-on from an add-on from an add-on from an add-on from 2008.

00:44:11.720 So he can go, yeah, until we get down to a budget, I'm not spending any of that.

00:44:16.780 That gives the power to the president, which I am against long-term.

00:44:23.640 I want to see the president reduce the presidential power, reduce the power of the administration and the administrative state, and give that power back to Congress.

00:44:34.080 But this is a very slick way to make sure he can make the cuts that he wants to make.

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