Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Jeff Brown ｜ 12⧸12⧸22
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In this episode, we talk about the latest in the government's censorship efforts on social media, the potential for nuclear fusion, and the future of the Republican Party. We also discuss the latest on the Trump/Russia scandal and whether or not we should be worried about it.
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So, would you put today's podcast in a positive or a negative call?
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It's very positive at the end, if you believe the government.
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We discovered this weekend, there is a real possibility that we can make energy through fusion.
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And that's the announcement that's supposed to come out tomorrow from the U.S. Department of Energy.
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But then we also had Jeff Brown on, who is a futurist, who's like, if it's not this, in the next 18, 24 months, it's going to be somebody.
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I don't know that we've really thought through all the ramifications of it.
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But a lot of them will be positive if that happens.
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Yeah, today's podcast, just for a futurist, you're going to love this.
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Also, we talk about the future of the Republican Party.
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We take that first step there today on the podcast.
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I don't even know where to start on the Twitter thing.
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That Twitter and the Democrats lied about censorship.
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That the government was involved with Twitter and censorship.
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That Michelle Obama pressured Twitter to ban Trump.
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New York Times, Washington Post, one story in the last week.
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There have been several updates that have happened.
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How about the FBI and CDC using a back channel with Twitter?
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Or the internal documents that show only one Twitter employee was raising serious free speech concerns.
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And identified as a junior staffer, by the way.
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Okay, so there are three things here that they should lawyer up about.
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First, it looks like the material may have been intentionally hidden or destroyed despite inquiries from Congress.
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Remember, congressmen said, Twitter, don't destroy anything because we're coming for an investigation.
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So it looks like some of the evidence has been destroyed.
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Plus, they lied under oath over and over and over again.
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And most people are debating whether Twitter is bad or good.
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This is about the federal government being involved neck deep in censorship to me.
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It's like, hey, guys, I don't know if we should, like, ban a leader of the free world.
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There's nobody there going like, hey, guys, like, don't you see how this is going to be seen by half the country?
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He says, this might be an unpopular opinion, but one off ad hoc decisions like this that don't appear rooted in policy are, in my opinion, a slippery slope and reflect an alternatively equal dictatorial problem.
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He said, this now appears to be fiat by an online platform CEO with a global present that can gatekeep speech for the entire world.
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It's a very nice way of saying the very obvious thing.
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So it's interesting because, first of all, you mentioned the CEO.
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I don't know if Jack counts at that point because he went back and forth in that role.
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But I will say it does seem that Jack was out of these conversations often.
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It doesn't seem like he was the center pushing point for a lot of this stuff.
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And he was, I mean, in this one, he was on vacation phoning into meetings, they say.
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So we'll see how that plays out as we get more information.
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But he doesn't seem to be the center power, the gravity of all of this.
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He's not, he seems to be occasionally involved, but not necessarily involved in the day to day.
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This guy, Yoel Roth, is the guy who seems to be the guy who really is behind a lot of this.
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What I find interesting, though, is you go through them.
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And there is a lot of conversation from Twitter employees saying things like, look, our policies don't allow us to do this.
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There's no justification for doing these things because of our policies.
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But they go on and they say, so how do we craft a path around the policies?
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So in other words, we all love the Constitution, but there are things we have to do.
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And that seems to be the constant refrain in these messages.
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They all agreed, obviously, that Donald Trump was bad and that he needed to be removed immediately and conservatives were dangerous and all of this.
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But they didn't do a lot about that in this period as far as banning if they couldn't come up with a way to justify the policies.
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Like they just abandoned this completely and just started blanket justifying things.
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And how they felt is important because I think it's, you could say it's how they felt because they felt Donald Trump was a danger to the country.
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That the right was a horrible group of people that were doing terrible things.
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But the other thing they felt was massive pressure from federal government employees.
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Major people in the press that are supposed to be neutral.
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They felt massive outside pressure to come up with a way to justify this policy or not.
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I mean, it doesn't change how you should feel about Twitter.
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But it should, I think, put the focus of the American people and their attention span, which is limited, to the people in the federal government who are starting this pressure campaign.
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Yes, it's interesting that some executive at Twitter was liberal and looked for a way to ban Donald Trump or some other conservative.
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But the fact that our government was getting involved, federal government and former government employees.
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Oh, as early as, I mean, as late as last week, Elon Musk fired the guy who was involved in the Trump setup of the Russiagate.
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But that FBI agent was still filtering and possibly deleting things, covering up the FBI's involvement in Twitter as late as last week.
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It's far more important that this stuff was going on outside.
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Because, look, there are a lot, they're going to have their defenses on whether they ban people or not, whether it fits policy or not.
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Look, they could get punished, but it might not be that serious.
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The First Amendment specifically deals with federal government influence.
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I mean, it specifically means talking about laws, but it does have, I think, a direct line, direct line from federal government employees and former employees.
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And the media was so on their side on this stuff that it never got any critical treatment.
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It shows CDC, FBI, White House, all of them, all of them steering and pushing the steerage of Twitter.
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They had an online portal where you could say, hey, this tweet you should pull down and Twitter would look at it.
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Are they making a coherent analysis of what this tweet is?
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Actually, this particular physician is from Stanford.
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He's a little out of the mainstream, maybe, of consensus.
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But, hey, you know, he still has an important voice.
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But the experts say, the federal experts say, he's not.
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So are you more expert than the federal government's experts?
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Now, of course, if Donald Trump's administration came to them and said the same thing, it would not be this way.
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This is proof positive that the government is colluding to lie to you and using Twitter to do it.
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How does the press think they will get away with this?
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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I want to play a couple of I want to play a couple of pieces from the media in Russia.
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He's speaking on Russian television about the American society.
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He says what's happening in the West is simply the suicide of civilization.
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And if this suicide isn't prevented, at very least outside the Western world,
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in the world not controlled by the Anglo-Saxons, the entire planet will commit suicide.
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Can you imagine that in American schools, they are now teaching first graders,
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not just, you know, gay people and normal people,
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he was in prison here and he goes back and he even knows we're,
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but not surprised that boot was exchanged for Griner and not Waylon.
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We communicated with him to the extent we could.
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I can't even imagine what this means to his family,
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He was apprehended while receiving information on a flash drive.
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He said he was supposed to get photos of churches on a flash drive.
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We don't get a flash drive brought to you for that.
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A hero who suffered while serving his fatherland,
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or a metal-covered hero who suffered during his service to his fatherland.
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The United States or a black lesbian hooked on drugs who suffered for vape with hashish, hashish.
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The second good news is a nation that spits on its heroes to the extent that it considers it significantly more important to free rightfully charged, well-known athlete.
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She served her motherland, but because she couldn't live for 10 hours without hashish, instead of freeing the person in prison for two years for serving his motherland,
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this says a lot about the state of this society, these intelligence agencies, and everything related to geopolitical confrontation.
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And at some level, you know, he's not an American hero.
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And I say that not because that's my opinion, but because the media has not focused really at all on the guy.
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I mean, he's not known in American circles at all.
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Unless you happen to follow this stuff, which I know we have, and I know the audience probably has,
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but generally speaking, it has not been covered.
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In fact, the hero of the two to the American media is Brittany Griner.
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Now, is it because she's black and lesbian and a woman?
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So, taking the celebrity part separately, because I think that is undoubtedly true.
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Like, 100% true the reason why they went after Brittany Griner is because there was so much pop press on it.
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If I were, if I were over in Russia and arrested for anything, just say the same thing, vaping, okay?
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Oh, they'd send you, I mean, they'd ask you to go to Siberia.
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Yes, it's not just pure fame, but it's the right kind of fame.
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I think the interesting part about her gender, her sexuality, the color of her skin, is you could argue, well, that's not it.
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Because we made this argument, and I know you made this argument last week, where there's a real argument to be made, to me, to you.
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That we do go get the woman out of this situation before the man, who's a Marine, out of chivalry.
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That's, I mean, that is, that America would have done this, you know, 50 years ago, 20 years ago.
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Without question, the woman goes first, the Marine was trained, he can handle it.
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You know, and I think, now, of course, the Biden administration can't make that argument, because they can't even define what a woman is.
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If they did take a white male instead of Brittany Griner.
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If they did the opposite, we know it would be months of coverage of the only reason they didn't take Brittany Griner is because she's black, she's a woman, and she has an alternative lifestyle.
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And you can't do that to the hand that feeds you.
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So, it would have been only the extreme left that would have, it would have split.
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I mean, the left has one thing the right does not have.
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You really think that the Marxists are in bed with GE and all of these other giant corporations with Citibank?
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If he would have released that, only the extreme, dedicated left would have gone on television, and it would have been mainly on MSNBC, I think, because they couldn't bite the government hand that is feeding them.
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It would have been there, but it wouldn't have been as strong.
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If it was a Republican that did it, it'd be over.
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Um, here's the thing that I really want to point out.
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Alexander Dugan is, uh, a master at traditionalism.
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He is the guy whose daughter was just assassinated, uh, he says, by Ukrainians.
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He has used Putin money, um, over here in the United States.
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His allies tend to be like, um, uh, what's his name?
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Isn't in that Richard Spencer, Richard Spencer.
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Um, uh, yeah, the rich kind of known as the head of the alt right and such.
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His wife is the translator for Alexander Dugan, the English translator.
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He also has emissaries that have put money into traditional family kind of things.
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We're losing, we're losing basic, basic things here that, you know, God wants us to have.
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He is as close as you can get to Satan on earth as you can find.
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He believes that the entire world has to reset.
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And so he wants to bring on literally Armageddon and the end of the world.
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He believes it's better to reset to the stone age to where we all are just tribal again.
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And we get rid of all of this new, uh, technology and get rid of all of these new things that make us into who we are.
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I think we should just master them and not let them be the master of us.
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I think he is the most frightening James Bond style villain alive today.
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He and Klaus Schwab, extraordinarily dangerous.
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But he's dangerous because he's the guy who pushes narratives in the West like this.
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He's the guy who's like, you know, this is suicide by the Anglo-Saxons and somebody's got to stand up or the entire planet.
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Now, have you ever thought of Russia as the defender of the faith?
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But, you know, in American schools, they're teaching about 72 genders.
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Look, they're letting this, this lesbian drug user out over a traditional hero.
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I tweeted this without comment because I wanted to make the comment today because you need to understand it.
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Satan is the author of all lies, confusion, and chaos.
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His trick is he speaks much of the truth and then commingles it with extraordinarily evil lies.
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Unless somebody stands up in the Western Hemisphere, the West is going to wipe itself out.
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We have turned things upside down that because you're a man or a heterosexual, you're not worth as much as somebody else.
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Meaning all men are created equal is no longer true.
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The only reason why we had a semi-decent government, as Churchill said, the worst, except for everybody else's government.
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The reason why we had that semi-decent government was because we understood our first passport, our first citizenship was to the kingdom of God.
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And until we realize that, we will be duped by dangerous, dangerous lies mixed with clear truth.
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Jeff, I was reading Saturday something from, what was it, Morgan Stanley?
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And they were showing what's happening with ESG and the whole plan.
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And it got to 3031 and it said fusion plants to provide baseline energy.
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The next day, I hear that we are announcing fusion energy.
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So I come to three conclusions and I want to see what you think.
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A, the big oil companies have always put fusion and hidden all that technology.
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Second, the government has fusion and it's ready to go and it's going to be remarkable
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Or the third option is they know we're close to something.
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And this is a way to get people excited like a moonshot and get everybody on board with a
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public-private partnership to pioneer this technology with no idea whether or not we're
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Well, Glenn, the closest one of the scenarios that you described is definitely the third one.
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You know, there are a large number of different approaches that are being tested around the world
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Generally speaking, we all know that it's going to work.
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It's just a matter of figuring out which one or ones, which approaches are going to really
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be the most effective in terms of producing limitless clean energy.
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You know, the technology, historically, we just haven't had the material science.
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We haven't had the artificial intelligence to manage these incredibly complex plasma reactions
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But the whole industry has been advancing at an incredible pace over the last three years
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in particular that we're right on the cusp, that inflection point where we've actually
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We've produced a lot of fusion reactions for milliseconds or, in some cases, a few seconds,
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They've required more energy to create and maintain the reaction than the energy that was
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The report offers some reason to be careful, as two of the sources said the greater than expected
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energy output of 2.5 megajoules of energy in the experiment, using 2.1 megajoules of energy
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in the lasers, damaged diagnostic equipment, so they couldn't measure.
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Initial diagnostic data suggests another successful experiment at the National Ignition Facility.
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However, the exact yield is still being determined, and we can't confirm that it's over the threshold.
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That analysis is in process, so publishing the information before that process is complete
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So we're at exactly the same place we've been for a while.
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It sure sounds like they've had a net energy output reaction.
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And it's worth mentioning that Lawrence Livermore Laboratory has had successful fusion reactions
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They use a bunch of lasers, 192 to be exact, that they focus on some fuel to create that
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intense pressure and the intense heat that causes the hydrogen to combine and to helium, which
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So to me, it wouldn't be a surprise at all if the news is confirmed tomorrow or later this
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week that they, in fact, have had a net energy output.
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So what kind of a net energy output do you need to be the miracle we're looking for?
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Well, I mean, the reality is anything greater than one, in other words, more energy output
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than the energy required to sustain the reaction is a win.
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But the reality is we actually don't have to sacrifice the technology when implemented,
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when proven to be successful and no longer theoretical.
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You'll be able to manage a nuclear fusion reaction and create 10 units of energy for every
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Now, what that means is basically almost free, limitless, completely clean energy for the planet.
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Would we still have to have fossil fuels to fuel it?
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No, this is the this is the great part that, you know, the inputs to these reactions, once
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you obviously have built your fusion reactor are basically two different kinds of hydrogen.
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One is deuterium and one is tritium, otherwise known as hydrogen two and hydrogen three.
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Hydrogen two literally can be derived from water, tap water, and hydrogen three is a byproduct
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And those are the inputs to create this limitless clean energy.
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And, you know, perhaps, Glenn, another way to look at it is that if we think about an individual
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To produce 10 years of energy for an individual consumer, it only takes a few tablespoons of
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water and the amount of lithium that is in your smartphone.
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That's how incredible nuclear fusion is as a source of clean energy.
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Now, they say that if this is true, it would still take us decades before we could open
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Um, I, I mean, I think back to when you and I sat down in your studio almost three years
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ago to the date, uh, I think it was November, 2019.
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And at that time I predicted that we would see this moment within five years.
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And back then I remember the consensus in the industry was, you know, 2030 and beyond.
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So, um, no, it's not going to take 10 years to commercialize.
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Um, we're going to have compact nuclear fusion reactors, uh, really within the next three
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years, um, we're going to see net energy output.
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And then from my perspective, it's just a matter of commercialization.
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So as I look into the second half of this decade, we should see at least one or two companies
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producing those initial compact fusion reactors to be put into commercial use for clean energy
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What do you, what are you talking about for your house, for your phone, for a city?
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Well, in the, you know, in the industry, when we talk about a compact fusion reactor, we
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can imagine something roughly the size of a semi-trailer, um, which is exciting because
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you can manufacture these things, put them on the back of a semi-trailer, ship them out
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to whatever neighborhood or subdivision or city metropolitan area and install these and
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basically connect them to the, uh, the electricity grid.
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And is this something that is, uh, affordable, will it become affordable?
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I mean, it sounds like the resources that you need are plentiful.
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Yes, the, the engineering required is, um, while, uh, technically more advanced in terms of
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material science, especially with regards to making these, um, uh, magnets that are required,
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uh, to contain the, this incredibly hot, uh, pressurized plasma.
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That's really the hardest part, but the costs are going to be a lot less than a large, um, uh,
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power production plant, um, because, uh, fusion is such an energy dense, um, uh, way to produce
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electricity, uh, as opposed to, you know, a natural gas plant or a coal plant, something
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like that, or for that matter, a nuclear fission plant.
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And once you start the fusion, it doesn't stop, right?
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And this is the great part that, you know, this is in terms of operational costs.
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If you're producing 10 units of energy, then you can just take a portion of that energy
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and use it to the fuel, the, the nuclear fusion reaction.
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As long as you need it to 24 seven, uh, that's the beauty of these fusion reactions.
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Um, the moment you, uh, basically, um, take your finger off the button, uh, basically the
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plasma cools down peacefully and the reaction stops and just stops producing energy.
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Well, Jeff, we know that, uh, big oil kept big battery from being made.
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Uh, and so now why would big battery allow fusion to happen?
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What does this mean for all of the battery research and the cars we're building now?
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Well, the, um, yeah, the industry for, uh, petroleum and, um, uh, gasoline, of course, natural gas.
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This, this is the one that will be the most threatened coal as well from a breakthrough like this.
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Um, when we have limitless, almost free, clean energy, um, no carbon emissions, no reactive waste.
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Um, you know, why do we need those other sources of energy?
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Uh, and there's obviously some very large vested interests that would probably prefer to not see this happen.
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But the car industry, uh, you know, this is what makes, from my perspective, electric vehicles make sense.
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You know, historically in the U S 60% of all electricity production comes from coal and natural gas.
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And in fact, in the last two years, our usage of coal has increased from about 21% to 25% just in the last two years.
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Um, so driving around an electric vehicle, when it's fueled by electricity from fossil fuels, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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But if we have nuclear fusion, then electric vehicles make a ton of sense, uh, because we don't have to burn fossil fuels, uh, to create the electricity, to fuel them.
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So, so I hate to be such a pessimist, but I just have seen too many things here.
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Um, there's also vested interest right now, especially with ESG to make sure that those profits happen that haven't been happening, um,
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and of causing all kinds of problems for these big hedge funds, et cetera.
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The idea that we are on a breakthrough energy, uh, would funnel a lot of money into these kinds of new technologies, um, and help fund them.
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Uh, and if they're real great, uh, if they're a, you know, green new deal, not so great.
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Um, and so there is big business and big money, uh, and big government that would love to, it's just coincidental or, or, or very, very convenient that this would be announced, uh, like this by the government, which would play right into their hand.
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There's just tens of billions of dollars at stake here.
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And, uh, obviously, I mean, even if we look at the whole carbon credit industry, the net beneficiary of carbon credits has been the financial services industry that makes money trading these things around.
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They're not solving our environmental problems.
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Uh, you know, they haven't changed, um, how energy is produced around the world.
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In fact, I would argue that, um, commercializing nuclear fusion technology is the single most important thing that we can do for our environment.
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If you have this, this is really all you have to do.
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You'll take all energy, um, that is being, uh, manufactured and make it 100% clean.
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That's like shutting the planet off, which they said we had to do.
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And I, you know, the, the, the craziest thing about all of this is that as we've, we're so close to having this, this breakthrough is that less than $10 billion, less than $10 billion over the last three decades has been invested by the U.S.
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government and by the private sector and nuclear fusion technology projects and companies.
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Now that said this year, 2022 was an absolute record year.
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This whole industry has been primarily driven by a private industry, venture capitalists.
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Um, and, uh, so in that sense, it was a breakthrough year and that's because people can see that we're, we're really on the cusp of this breakthrough.
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So I think, I believe that at the government level, we're going to see a very big shift in terms of, uh, levels of investment.
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This should be the equivalent of, you know, a Manhattan project or an Apollo program in terms of energy policy.