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00:00:00.080 Welcome to the podcast. Today, hosted by myself, Stu Bergeer, host of Stu Does America, and Pat Gray, host of Pat Gray Unleashed, why Glenn is out sick with COVID-19.

00:00:13.340 Well, one of the COVIDs. We don't know which one. No, actually, he's saying it's not COVID-19.

00:00:18.220 You know, he's not a doctor. Well, he is a doctor.

00:00:21.140 That's true. Yeah, he actually is.

00:00:23.340 So we don't know. He may have COVID-19. He may not. We don't know the answer to that.

00:00:27.080 But he's not here. We do know that. We talked a little bit about the feud between Anthony Fauci and the president.

00:00:32.860 Is there one or is this a media creation?

00:00:35.340 Is there a difference between the way the New York Times is covering the Joe Biden accusations and the Brett Kavanaugh accusations?

00:00:43.260 We noticed a minor difference there.

00:00:45.180 Yeah, just one, though. Just one little teeny difference.

00:00:47.920 Yeah, it was hard to pick up.

00:00:49.680 There's one or two, but you have to really look closely to see the difference.

00:00:52.840 Real, real slight nuance there. We'll try to walk you through it. It's very difficult.

00:00:56.340 Jeremy Dice joins us. He is from First Liberty Institute, and he's in the middle of these lawsuits against states and cities

00:01:04.380 who are trying to ban people from even doing drive-in services at church.

00:01:09.260 Not okay.

00:01:10.560 And we talk about China and how they're lying to us about COVID-19 and so many other things. 0.79

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00:01:44.920 So, Stu, how hard up are you for sports right now?

00:01:53.860 It's immeasurable.

00:01:54.960 I'm almost to the point where I just can't take it anymore.

00:01:57.960 Which is why...

00:01:59.920 Was it Saturday?

00:02:01.480 I think Saturday it was an old BYU football games day.

00:02:06.440 I watched both BYU-USC from last season

00:02:09.820 and then the Mangum Miracle at Memorial.

00:02:12.920 BYU over Nebraska in 2015

00:02:15.900 on the last second Hail Mary.

00:02:18.580 Today, my plan is to watch BYU-Miami from 1990.

00:02:23.160 And that's how desperate I am

00:02:24.700 for any kind of sports right now.

00:02:26.680 Just give me a sport! 0.78

00:02:29.340 I spent a very long time watching

00:02:31.460 1993's World Series Game 6,

00:02:34.420 the greatest baseball game ever played.

00:02:35.760 Oh, did you?

00:02:36.500 Yes, where the Toronto Blue Jays

00:02:38.480 did beat the Phillies

00:02:39.660 on the last walk-off home run by Joe Carter.

00:02:44.720 Obviously, greatest game ever played.

00:02:46.180 Walk-off home run in the World Series.

00:02:47.380 Everyone knows it.

00:02:48.540 But it's amazing.

00:02:50.220 You'll just dive into anything.

00:02:51.560 I also watched a good chunk

00:02:53.180 of the Eagles-Giants game

00:02:55.400 when the Miracle of the Middlelands 2

00:02:58.500 where Deshaun Jackson returned.

00:03:00.880 What year was this?

00:03:01.480 This was, oh God, 2010.

00:03:04.060 So it wasn't Super Bowl year.

00:03:05.360 No, it was a game where

00:03:06.960 the Eagles were down 24.

00:03:09.840 I think it was 31-7.

00:03:10.880 They came all the way back,

00:03:12.060 tied the game,

00:03:13.360 and then on the last play of the game,

00:03:15.720 the Giants had to punt,

00:03:16.640 punted it stupidly to Deshaun Jackson

00:03:19.080 who first fumbled,

00:03:20.500 regained control,

00:03:21.280 and then ran back for a touchdown

00:03:22.340 to win the game on the last play.

00:03:24.060 38-31.

00:03:25.240 I may have watched some of that too.

00:03:27.180 You may have.

00:03:28.040 You can't remember for sure?

00:03:28.760 I can't remember exactly.

00:03:29.680 I can't remember any of the details of the game.

00:03:31.300 But it is that thing

00:03:32.340 where we are begging for anything.

00:03:34.940 Just please.

00:03:35.800 Sports.

00:03:36.420 Give us anything.

00:03:37.100 To the point of like,

00:03:37.800 I'm not a big golf guy.

00:03:40.260 I'll watch the Masters maybe

00:03:41.980 on the final round.

00:03:43.560 I've been to a couple of tournaments

00:03:45.140 like in person,

00:03:46.080 which are really fun.

00:03:47.020 I think you were last year,

00:03:47.940 didn't you?

00:03:48.600 Yeah.

00:03:49.340 Last couple of years

00:03:50.420 of the PGA Championship,

00:03:51.780 which is...

00:03:52.320 But how old were you last year?

00:03:53.680 I mean,

00:03:53.960 when people went to live sporting events.

00:03:56.100 It feels like a thousand years ago.

00:03:57.460 I was even born last year.

00:03:59.460 I mean,

00:03:59.640 just think about what you were...

00:04:00.940 I was standing there

00:04:02.260 with like thousands of people

00:04:04.040 crowded into this little area.

00:04:06.100 I mean,

00:04:06.920 it doesn't even seem possible

00:04:08.100 it's ever going to happen again.

00:04:09.080 I know it will,

00:04:10.100 but it doesn't feel like it right now.

00:04:11.340 It really doesn't.

00:04:12.380 But that's the one sport

00:04:14.160 that there's no reason

00:04:16.120 they can't be doing right now.

00:04:17.800 Golf is like...

00:04:19.180 There's automatic social distancing.

00:04:21.560 Yep.

00:04:22.080 Right?

00:04:22.480 Yeah.

00:04:23.160 Social distancing,

00:04:24.400 you could even put...

00:04:25.340 For a pro tournament,

00:04:26.140 there's no reason

00:04:27.160 you couldn't put

00:04:28.000 one person

00:04:29.500 on one hole

00:04:32.040 at a time.

00:04:32.700 And just tell fans

00:04:33.620 they can't come.

00:04:34.300 Yeah.

00:04:34.780 But it would just be a TV event.

00:04:36.620 Right.

00:04:36.940 Right.

00:04:37.340 Right.

00:04:37.700 And you pop it on there

00:04:38.680 and you could play

00:04:39.040 all these tournaments.

00:04:39.720 I'd watch at this point.

00:04:40.980 I don't even like golf.

00:04:42.140 I would get into golf.

00:04:43.040 Yeah, absolutely.

00:04:43.940 You know,

00:04:44.300 and I think it's a silly thing

00:04:45.960 that cities and states

00:04:47.380 have been trying

00:04:47.880 to take away from people

00:04:48.880 because of,

00:04:51.520 you know,

00:04:52.660 social distancing and everything

00:04:53.720 and they're saying

00:04:54.100 it's not an essential activity.

00:04:55.400 Even Texas did.

00:04:56.860 And of course,

00:04:58.400 it's not an essential activity.

00:05:00.260 But that's not the way

00:05:01.060 to look at these things.

00:05:02.200 You need to look at them

00:05:02.840 as what can we give people

00:05:04.680 to keep them sane

00:05:06.600 that will still remain safe.

00:05:08.700 Right.

00:05:08.840 And clearly,

00:05:09.600 golf is in that package.

00:05:10.860 You could even say to people,

00:05:13.280 one person on a hole

00:05:14.580 at a time.

00:05:15.280 No foursomes.

00:05:16.440 It's going to be one at a time.

00:05:17.540 It's not going to be as fun.

00:05:19.120 You could easily do two.

00:05:21.000 Remember,

00:05:21.360 most golfers suck, 1.00

00:05:22.760 so they slice the ball

00:05:23.560 into opposite woods

00:05:24.320 every time anyway.

00:05:25.040 They're nowhere near each other.

00:05:26.140 Right.

00:05:27.560 Standing six feet away

00:05:28.580 at the tee

00:05:29.220 and the tee only

00:05:30.060 is not a big challenge.

00:05:32.180 So,

00:05:32.800 but they're taking

00:05:33.540 those things away.

00:05:34.480 They're taking them

00:05:35.080 with it.

00:05:35.380 Don't go driving.

00:05:36.120 Don't go out for a drive,

00:05:36.920 Pat.

00:05:37.400 Yeah.

00:05:37.600 Whatever you do,

00:05:38.280 don't go out for a drive.

00:05:38.940 Why?

00:05:39.820 We're in a car with people

00:05:40.960 we're already living with.

00:05:42.280 Why can't we go out

00:05:43.140 for a drive?

00:05:43.820 Does the virus smash

00:05:45.260 through the windshield

00:05:46.100 if you're driving around town?

00:05:47.940 I don't think so.

00:05:48.340 I don't think so either.

00:05:49.400 You know,

00:05:49.660 those are basic.

00:05:50.520 The drive-in church

00:05:51.640 is a good example of it.

00:05:52.820 Yeah.

00:05:53.000 Just letting people

00:05:53.820 go to parks.

00:05:54.360 Let people do that.

00:05:55.060 Come on.

00:05:55.660 California,

00:05:56.180 I think it is,

00:05:56.580 closed down every state park.

00:05:58.460 Why on earth?

00:05:59.380 With all of that territory,

00:06:00.980 with all of that room

00:06:02.120 to keep separate,

00:06:03.280 you want to put

00:06:03.800 a police officer

00:06:04.840 or something down there

00:06:05.820 to make sure

00:06:06.120 there's not a huge gathering

00:06:07.240 to break it up

00:06:08.280 on state property.

00:06:09.760 All right.

00:06:10.560 I mean,

00:06:10.840 you know,

00:06:11.080 okay.

00:06:11.720 Well,

00:06:11.900 California essentially

00:06:13.060 shut down the Pacific Ocean

00:06:14.480 because they wouldn't let

00:06:15.160 a guy paddleboard

00:06:16.100 by himself in it.

00:06:18.640 That's amazing.

00:06:19.160 Now,

00:06:19.320 you could see

00:06:19.960 a situation

00:06:20.740 where a big gathering

00:06:22.360 maybe gets out of control

00:06:23.540 because everyone's

00:06:24.280 at the beach.

00:06:25.080 I know,

00:06:25.380 obviously,

00:06:25.860 Florida had an issue 0.56

00:06:27.300 with this.

00:06:28.300 They've now

00:06:28.640 with spring break

00:06:29.560 and Pat

00:06:30.820 separately on this

00:06:32.240 on privacy concerns.

00:06:33.260 It's amazing

00:06:34.220 how much information

00:06:35.320 they already have

00:06:36.060 and we're releasing.

00:06:37.100 They released a whole article

00:06:38.720 about how

00:06:39.600 they've tracked

00:06:40.700 all the people

00:06:41.740 who were at spring break

00:06:45.260 and where they went after.

00:06:46.960 So,

00:06:47.100 you know,

00:06:47.260 of course,

00:06:47.500 people are visiting

00:06:48.040 from all over the country

00:06:48.780 and they show.

00:06:49.760 Now,

00:06:50.140 again,

00:06:50.280 it's aggregated data

00:06:51.460 and that is different

00:06:52.500 than anonymized data.

00:06:53.660 These things get

00:06:54.240 conflated a lot

00:06:55.400 where like anonymized data

00:06:56.700 is they take your information

00:06:58.040 and they take your name

00:06:59.820 off of it,

00:07:00.300 but they can still see

00:07:01.280 everywhere you traveled.

00:07:02.580 And as we pointed out

00:07:03.580 multiple times,

00:07:04.220 there's only one person

00:07:05.200 on earth

00:07:05.560 that drives

00:07:06.140 from my house

00:07:06.800 to this place

00:07:07.680 over and over again.

00:07:08.860 So,

00:07:08.980 if you follow my cell phone,

00:07:09.900 you're going to know

00:07:10.200 where I went,

00:07:11.000 right?

00:07:11.500 Yes.

00:07:12.620 Aggregated data

00:07:13.220 is a little bit different

00:07:14.000 in that you're just

00:07:14.480 seeing patterns of travel.

00:07:17.160 You know,

00:07:17.320 you can see,

00:07:18.380 if you see where,

00:07:19.660 you know,

00:07:19.980 where do people walk

00:07:20.940 on a walk path?

00:07:21.860 Where do they travel

00:07:22.900 on the weekends?

00:07:23.720 You can see traffic patterns

00:07:24.980 and things like that.

00:07:25.840 That's a little,

00:07:26.360 you know,

00:07:26.740 it's not quite as invasive

00:07:27.700 and it's something

00:07:28.460 that's been around

00:07:28.960 for a while,

00:07:29.580 but they have a lot

00:07:30.680 of access to it.

00:07:31.980 And getting aggregated data

00:07:33.020 can be useful,

00:07:33.800 but in this case,

00:07:35.100 there's like,

00:07:35.420 okay,

00:07:36.300 people were at spring break

00:07:37.260 and now they all went back

00:07:38.740 to all these places

00:07:39.440 and then you see

00:07:40.020 the breakout start

00:07:40.900 in those areas

00:07:41.560 because people were

00:07:42.240 hanging out,

00:07:42.880 you know,

00:07:43.380 shoulder to shoulder

00:07:44.160 on the beach.

00:07:45.380 Most people were making out

00:07:46.660 with 19 strangers

00:07:47.720 every day.

00:07:48.880 Yep.

00:07:48.920 that's the pattern

00:07:49.600 that I've heard

00:07:50.400 from spring break.

00:07:51.440 My spring breaks

00:07:52.000 were never like that,

00:07:52.840 but I'm sure,

00:07:54.140 I'm sure,

00:07:54.960 I'm sure people

00:07:55.960 who aren't losers

00:07:56.880 have those weekends

00:07:58.060 and,

00:07:58.960 you know,

00:07:59.620 you look at that

00:08:00.200 and you say,

00:08:00.860 well,

00:08:02.400 I can understand

00:08:03.260 them not wanting

00:08:03.960 it to be crazy.

00:08:06.060 You want to take,

00:08:06.620 most people are doing

00:08:07.320 this on their own.

00:08:08.480 You know,

00:08:09.160 you mentioned golf.

00:08:10.720 Well,

00:08:11.160 golf,

00:08:11.840 the PGA canceled

00:08:12.940 a bunch of tournaments

00:08:13.540 because the PGA

00:08:14.680 wanted to cancel

00:08:15.340 the tournaments.

00:08:15.960 They didn't feel

00:08:16.500 that they could guarantee

00:08:17.060 the safety of their players.

00:08:19.000 Or their fans.

00:08:20.600 So they canceled it.

00:08:21.760 The NBA felt the same way.

00:08:23.380 They said,

00:08:23.700 we can't guarantee

00:08:24.780 the safety of our fans

00:08:26.500 or our players.

00:08:27.800 We're not doing it.

00:08:28.980 You know,

00:08:29.140 Mark Cuban was on CNBC

00:08:30.200 the other day

00:08:30.620 and they said,

00:08:31.020 hey,

00:08:31.220 Mark,

00:08:31.600 when are the Mavs

00:08:32.120 coming back?

00:08:32.700 When is the NBA

00:08:33.320 coming back into action?

00:08:34.580 He said,

00:08:35.100 the Mavs will start

00:08:35.680 playing again

00:08:36.140 when I can guarantee

00:08:37.020 their safety.

00:08:39.020 It wasn't like

00:08:39.700 when the government

00:08:40.520 said it was okay

00:08:41.480 for them to play

00:08:42.260 or the NBA

00:08:43.280 started up again.

00:08:44.360 When I feel comfortable

00:08:45.580 that my players

00:08:46.320 will be safe,

00:08:47.160 then they can play.

00:08:48.940 Yeah.

00:08:49.240 Right?

00:08:49.520 That's the attitude

00:08:50.780 most Americans have.

00:08:52.020 And it's a good answer.

00:08:53.160 I mean,

00:08:53.660 that's a strong...

00:08:56.380 But I mean,

00:08:57.500 on the other hand,

00:08:58.120 you can never guarantee

00:08:59.460 anybody's safety.

00:09:01.000 He may not have used

00:09:01.760 the word guarantee.

00:09:02.500 He may have said,

00:09:03.600 believe that they're

00:09:04.580 going to be safe

00:09:05.060 or something like that.

00:09:05.640 But I think that

00:09:06.360 that's the kind of

00:09:08.380 false part

00:09:09.400 of the argument

00:09:09.980 that we've been having.

00:09:11.460 And it's not a very

00:09:12.160 American approach to it.

00:09:13.620 Not at all.

00:09:13.920 When we say,

00:09:14.580 oh, well,

00:09:15.320 are we going to

00:09:16.200 open up the economy

00:09:16.980 or are we going to

00:09:19.280 stay home

00:09:20.440 and protect

00:09:20.800 for the disease?

00:09:22.060 And it's like,

00:09:22.480 well,

00:09:22.920 the way we keep

00:09:23.660 talking about that is

00:09:24.740 will the government

00:09:25.680 allow us to come out

00:09:26.660 and work

00:09:27.040 or will the government

00:09:28.380 force us to stay home?

00:09:29.980 Yeah,

00:09:30.080 we've already ceded that

00:09:31.060 to the government

00:09:31.700 and what they're going

00:09:33.100 to allow.

00:09:33.740 And the argument,

00:09:34.600 too,

00:09:34.720 and it's like,

00:09:35.100 well,

00:09:35.200 when you look

00:09:35.780 at the data

00:09:36.260 around this,

00:09:37.940 you see that

00:09:38.680 people weren't going

00:09:40.240 to bars and restaurants

00:09:41.320 before they were closed

00:09:43.100 by the government.

00:09:44.700 Why?

00:09:45.300 Because people

00:09:45.960 didn't feel safe.

00:09:47.300 They didn't feel

00:09:48.000 like going there

00:09:48.700 was a good idea

00:09:49.840 so they didn't go.

00:09:51.280 The same thing

00:09:51.860 was happening,

00:09:52.520 you know,

00:09:53.300 with concerts

00:09:54.000 and large gatherings

00:09:54.940 and private events

00:09:56.520 that were being canceled.

00:09:57.740 People were nervous

00:09:58.720 about getting this

00:09:59.500 so they were like,

00:10:00.080 you know what,

00:10:00.300 I'm going to skip it

00:10:01.040 this time.

00:10:02.340 And the same thing

00:10:03.480 happens on the other

00:10:04.100 side of this,

00:10:04.540 I think.

00:10:05.920 We will wind up

00:10:07.200 being a country

00:10:09.200 with an open economy

00:10:10.000 again when people

00:10:11.620 believe they can go

00:10:13.000 to these places

00:10:13.540 without dying.

00:10:15.000 If you can make

00:10:15.980 people believe

00:10:16.760 they will not die

00:10:17.900 for the most simple

00:10:18.920 thing,

00:10:19.680 like going to church,

00:10:21.000 like going to a movie,

00:10:22.660 like going to a bar,

00:10:24.100 going to a restaurant,

00:10:25.520 then they'll come out.

00:10:27.340 That's the thing.

00:10:28.040 Government tells them

00:10:28.660 yes or no,

00:10:29.280 they're going to come out

00:10:30.180 in that you can't

00:10:30.880 keep people locked up

00:10:31.700 if they don't believe

00:10:32.400 they're at risk.

00:10:33.360 It's going to be

00:10:34.160 interesting this fall

00:10:36.140 when,

00:10:37.960 if things are opened

00:10:39.240 up again

00:10:39.740 and you can have fans

00:10:41.220 go back to,

00:10:42.180 say, football games,

00:10:43.440 how many are going

00:10:44.500 to go to football games?

00:10:46.160 How many are going

00:10:47.080 to feel comfortable

00:10:47.840 enough to go to a stadium

00:10:49.120 with 60,000 other people?

00:10:50.920 That will be

00:10:51.760 really fascinating

00:10:52.880 to watch

00:10:53.540 because I'm guessing

00:10:54.240 you're going to see

00:10:54.780 a lot of empty seats

00:10:56.180 at first,

00:10:57.220 at least.

00:10:57.780 Yeah.

00:10:58.040 Until people start

00:10:58.840 to feel comfortable again.

00:11:00.000 It's true.

00:11:00.280 It's going to take

00:11:00.620 some time.

00:11:01.180 That's true.

00:11:01.560 I know they started,

00:11:02.240 I think it's in Taiwan,

00:11:03.200 started their baseball league

00:11:04.060 the other day.

00:11:04.680 Oh, they did.

00:11:05.180 So I would say this,

00:11:05.980 you have Taiwanese 0.72

00:11:06.640 baseball to watch

00:11:07.400 if you want to get

00:11:08.420 into that.

00:11:08.980 Where could I find it?

00:11:09.920 I don't know.

00:11:10.620 I think we've got to find it.

00:11:11.400 ESPN 36.

00:11:13.420 It would be ESPN regular

00:11:14.840 right now.

00:11:15.560 They've got nothing else

00:11:16.140 to air.

00:11:16.280 That's for sure.

00:11:17.400 But they did it

00:11:18.540 with no fans.

00:11:19.480 They did have some

00:11:19.960 cardboard cutouts

00:11:20.840 of fans in the stands,

00:11:21.740 which is just kind of

00:11:22.320 a little weird,

00:11:24.100 but fun.

00:11:24.380 So I think that there's

00:11:27.160 a level there

00:11:28.280 that eventually

00:11:28.760 that happens.

00:11:29.180 I will tell you,

00:11:29.740 I decided the other day,

00:11:30.860 I was like,

00:11:31.100 you know what?

00:11:32.140 I'm going to go look

00:11:32.600 at my Super Bowl flight

00:11:33.440 because I go to the

00:11:34.740 Super Bowl every year.

00:11:36.160 I don't know if you

00:11:36.400 know this, Ben.

00:11:37.040 No, I hadn't heard.

00:11:37.800 You never mentioned it.

00:11:38.740 I've never mentioned it.

00:11:39.240 So it's strange.

00:11:40.100 So I go every year.

00:11:41.000 It's a tradition.

00:11:42.220 And I was like,

00:11:42.860 you know what?

00:11:43.620 What if the flight

00:11:44.240 is like $18?

00:11:46.000 It's worth the risk

00:11:47.040 to go.

00:11:47.880 Yeah.

00:11:48.200 It was not $18.

00:11:49.300 It was actually pretty

00:11:49.860 much normal price

00:11:50.720 for the flight,

00:11:51.220 which I was surprised at.

00:11:52.020 Although the strangest thing,

00:11:53.620 I've never seen this

00:11:54.840 in all my time

00:11:56.140 to travel,

00:11:56.780 going to websites,

00:11:57.660 going to all these sites

00:11:58.440 to try to find out

00:11:59.300 and get a flight.

00:12:00.460 I've never seen

00:12:01.160 this happen before.

00:12:02.500 The first class flight

00:12:04.120 was cheaper than coach.

00:12:06.500 It was cheaper.

00:12:08.260 Wow.

00:12:08.540 I've never really

00:12:09.580 seen it before

00:12:10.480 in my entire life.

00:12:12.100 I've never seen that.

00:12:13.380 Bizarre, right?

00:12:14.080 I must have been

00:12:15.000 some quirk.

00:12:15.840 I mean,

00:12:16.300 I will say this.

00:12:17.380 I got a first class flight

00:12:18.600 to the Super Bowl

00:12:19.560 and the first time

00:12:20.440 that's ever happened.

00:12:21.280 Did you already book it?

00:12:22.020 As of right now,

00:12:22.680 I'm the only person

00:12:23.480 on the flight

00:12:23.920 that I could find.

00:12:24.860 I bet you are.

00:12:25.980 But I was like,

00:12:26.640 you know what?

00:12:27.160 Let's lock this thing in now.

00:12:28.620 And where's the Super Bowl

00:12:29.420 next year?

00:12:30.500 Is it Tampa this year?

00:12:32.720 Oh, I think it might be Tampa.

00:12:34.020 I think it's Tampa this year.

00:12:34.600 So, yeah,

00:12:35.080 because, yeah,

00:12:35.800 that's right,

00:12:36.280 because Brady's going

00:12:36.960 to be playing in Tampa.

00:12:38.800 Oh, gosh.

00:12:39.320 And they're saying

00:12:39.980 that it could be

00:12:40.580 the first home team

00:12:41.360 to ever make it

00:12:42.000 to the Super Bowl.

00:12:42.540 Please don't.

00:12:43.200 Please, please.

00:12:43.900 I don't think I can handle it.

00:12:45.100 Irritating, wouldn't it?

00:12:45.620 But at least you got

00:12:46.180 a first class flight to Tampa.

00:12:47.560 Yeah, that's true.

00:12:48.380 There are worse problems to have.

00:12:50.600 Yes, there are.

00:12:51.440 It is.

00:12:51.920 It's an interesting thing.

00:12:52.740 And going through this

00:12:53.440 and watching it happen,

00:12:54.340 I mean, a lot of times

00:12:55.400 we should talk about this as well.

00:12:57.720 One of the things

00:12:58.260 that kind of is dismissed here

00:12:59.940 is people say,

00:13:01.100 well, look,

00:13:01.620 it's really only hitting

00:13:02.940 older, elderly people

00:13:04.720 and people

00:13:06.240 with pre-existing conditions

00:13:07.480 or chronic illness.

00:13:09.700 Right.

00:13:09.960 And, you know, look,

00:13:11.040 you know, that's sad

00:13:12.020 and we got to protect

00:13:12.560 those people,

00:13:13.260 but we need to open up

00:13:14.220 the economy.

00:13:14.640 But most people just dismiss it

00:13:16.180 because that's not me.

00:13:17.680 Right.

00:13:18.000 That is really what people

00:13:18.960 are doing.

00:13:19.420 That's not me.

00:13:20.120 Somebody else is going

00:13:20.840 to get sick and die. 0.93

00:13:21.580 I'm not going to.

00:13:22.400 That is the mechanism

00:13:23.200 behind the claim, isn't it?

00:13:24.320 Yes.

00:13:24.820 At some level,

00:13:25.540 that is what we're all

00:13:26.720 throwing out there

00:13:27.900 if you happen to be

00:13:28.580 one of the people

00:13:29.020 without the pre-existing conditions.

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00:14:08.960 So the New York Times

00:14:10.820 supposedly looked into

00:14:13.980 Joe Biden's sexual assault

00:14:15.680 of the woman back in 1993

00:14:18.960 that was on his staff.

00:14:21.300 And I mean,

00:14:21.860 it was pretty blatant.

00:14:23.740 When you listen to her story,

00:14:25.940 she sounded really believable,

00:14:29.060 I thought.

00:14:30.440 I certainly believed her.

00:14:31.880 Yeah, I mean,

00:14:33.980 it's tough, right?

00:14:36.120 Because it's an accusation

00:14:38.000 from 27 years ago.

00:14:39.980 27 years ago.

00:14:40.980 That's a problem.

00:14:41.840 Yeah.

00:14:42.080 And, you know,

00:14:42.860 again, I don't know

00:14:43.780 how you can litigate

00:14:45.920 those things 27 years later.

00:14:47.660 It's almost impossible.

00:14:48.640 Now, I know

00:14:49.180 there is one system

00:14:50.480 to do it,

00:14:51.100 which is the Kavanaugh model,

00:14:52.720 which is you just believe

00:14:53.840 anything the person says,

00:14:54.960 proof or not.

00:14:55.720 Right.

00:14:55.960 And say that it's unconscionable

00:14:59.260 for anyone to allow

00:15:01.000 a person like Brett Kavanaugh

00:15:02.480 to ever exist

00:15:03.280 in polite society again.

00:15:05.120 That's one model.

00:15:06.140 And it's the model

00:15:06.600 that the left has adopted

00:15:07.660 for every conservative

00:15:08.860 or Republican.

00:15:09.900 Until now,

00:15:10.900 at least.

00:15:11.680 Because people like,

00:15:12.720 I don't know,

00:15:13.200 Alyssa Milano were saying,

00:15:14.500 oh yeah,

00:15:14.820 women and Hillary Clinton, 1.00

00:15:16.740 women deserve to be believed. 1.00

00:15:18.580 Okay, well,

00:15:19.640 do men not deserve due process?

00:15:22.380 Because they're being accused

00:15:23.460 of something pretty serious here.

00:15:24.760 Should at least go through

00:15:25.680 the process.

00:15:26.580 Yeah.

00:15:26.940 Right.

00:15:27.700 And that wasn't the case

00:15:28.860 with Brett Kavanaugh.

00:15:30.180 But now,

00:15:30.940 all of a sudden,

00:15:31.540 oh yeah,

00:15:31.900 wait,

00:15:32.300 wait,

00:15:32.600 wait,

00:15:32.820 wait.

00:15:33.540 I mean,

00:15:33.880 you should take them seriously,

00:15:35.060 but you don't believe

00:15:35.840 them automatically.

00:15:36.780 Yeah,

00:15:36.960 that was the Alyssa Milano line. 0.93

00:15:38.420 Right.

00:15:38.620 I love that,

00:15:39.400 because it's,

00:15:40.220 what you're arguing for

00:15:41.340 is the conservative standard.

00:15:43.060 Yes.

00:15:43.340 What we're saying is,

00:15:44.680 when someone,

00:15:45.740 a woman says she's been abused,

00:15:47.260 you take that claim seriously,

00:15:49.660 you encourage it,

00:15:50.960 and this is very important,

00:15:52.140 important part of this,

00:15:53.120 you encourage it to come out

00:15:54.800 as soon afterward as possible,

00:15:57.060 ideally with authorities,

00:15:58.360 not through the media,

00:15:59.600 and you go through the evidence

00:16:01.200 and try to understand

00:16:02.000 what happened,

00:16:03.060 and if someone is guilty

00:16:05.220 after a due process situation,

00:16:08.260 then you're very excited

00:16:09.860 to throw them in prison

00:16:10.680 for as long as possible.

00:16:12.160 That's what conservatives

00:16:13.460 have always been asking for.

00:16:14.660 It's what we,

00:16:15.080 the standard we wanted

00:16:15.720 for Brett Kavanaugh,

00:16:16.740 right?

00:16:17.260 Yes.

00:16:17.520 There's no one that I knew of

00:16:18.500 that was like,

00:16:18.960 gosh,

00:16:19.320 I mean,

00:16:20.860 Brett probably did this,

00:16:21.960 but you know,

00:16:22.620 look,

00:16:23.440 I hope he gets away with it,

00:16:24.520 because he's going to be

00:16:25.160 a good vote of the Supreme Court.

00:16:26.460 I know no one

00:16:27.160 who thought that way.

00:16:28.300 There's tons of Supreme Court justices,

00:16:30.180 frankly,

00:16:30.660 others that I would have picked

00:16:31.580 besides Brett Kavanaugh,

00:16:33.580 just because of his voting record,

00:16:35.420 nothing to do with his

00:16:36.120 high school drinking habits,

00:16:39.120 but like,

00:16:39.800 it was unfair.

00:16:40.600 He was obviously qualified

00:16:41.720 for the job,

00:16:42.500 and you can't give in

00:16:43.940 to the left

00:16:45.720 and the media

00:16:46.460 dogpiling on Brett Kavanaugh

00:16:48.740 without any evidence.

00:16:50.960 Right.

00:16:51.260 There's much,

00:16:53.140 seriously,

00:16:54.040 much,

00:16:54.620 much more evidence

00:16:55.520 that Joe Biden did this

00:16:56.820 than Brett Kavanaugh

00:16:57.840 did what he was accused of.

00:16:59.000 Oh, yeah.

00:16:59.380 It's not even remotely close.

00:17:01.840 She actually told

00:17:03.480 one of her friends

00:17:04.900 at the time in 1993

00:17:06.860 that this occurred.

00:17:07.880 She also told her mom,

00:17:11.240 which we can't quantify

00:17:13.440 because her mom

00:17:14.480 is no longer with us,

00:17:16.500 but,

00:17:16.760 so we can even throw that one away,

00:17:18.580 but told two other people as well,

00:17:20.600 one in 2008

00:17:21.900 and another back,

00:17:23.060 I think,

00:17:23.380 at the time.

00:17:24.500 So you have...

00:17:25.640 And they've all corroborated.

00:17:26.780 Yeah,

00:17:26.980 they've all corroborated.

00:17:27.660 Yeah,

00:17:27.820 no one said,

00:17:28.580 unlike,

00:17:29.460 you know,

00:17:29.580 for example,

00:17:29.960 one of the Michael Avenatti

00:17:30.940 accusers who said,

00:17:32.380 you know who might know

00:17:32.960 is this person

00:17:33.960 and then they asked this person

00:17:35.520 and they're like,

00:17:36.020 actually,

00:17:36.360 I don't know who you're talking about.

00:17:37.320 Who's this?

00:17:37.860 I don't know the name

00:17:38.540 you're referring to.

00:17:39.600 Didn't even...

00:17:40.240 Not only did she not know

00:17:41.000 about the incident,

00:17:41.720 but didn't know about

00:17:42.880 the actual person

00:17:44.400 who was making the accusation.

00:17:46.840 It wasn't like that.

00:17:47.940 This is one where she

00:17:48.800 seemingly is backed up by,

00:17:51.980 as they would call it,

00:17:53.060 contemporaneous testimony.

00:17:56.640 Yeah.

00:17:56.880 And it is a situation

00:17:59.200 where if this was a Republican,

00:18:02.680 it would be rock solid 100% proof

00:18:06.160 that they did this.

00:18:07.640 That is absolutely true.

00:18:10.840 If this,

00:18:11.840 if Joe Biden was a Republican,

00:18:13.920 the media would be handling this

00:18:15.600 completely differently

00:18:17.260 and assuming guilt at every level.

00:18:20.400 No doubt about it.

00:18:21.160 So it's important to note,

00:18:21.960 it's not just some flimsy,

00:18:23.860 wild-eyed accusation.

00:18:26.440 But that being said,

00:18:27.520 even though I don't want

00:18:28.360 Joe Biden to be president,

00:18:29.520 he deserves due process.

00:18:30.940 He deserves a presumption

00:18:32.820 of innocence.

00:18:34.200 Mm-hmm.

00:18:35.120 And the fact that you come out

00:18:37.080 27 years later

00:18:39.740 and say something occurred

00:18:42.360 that there is no way

00:18:44.720 to show any evidence of,

00:18:46.380 that is to me

00:18:47.960 not enough

00:18:48.960 to destroy a person's life,

00:18:50.640 a person's career,

00:18:51.600 a person's political aspirations.

00:18:53.520 And it's particularly suspicious

00:18:55.100 when it's against

00:18:56.380 a powerful figure.

00:18:57.740 Mm-hmm.

00:18:59.120 You know,

00:18:59.500 this guy's running

00:19:00.380 for president right now.

00:19:01.620 He's the Democratic nominee

00:19:02.620 for president.

00:19:03.840 And of course,

00:19:04.660 you have to have

00:19:05.260 some level of suspicion

00:19:06.360 as to whether it's true.

00:19:08.260 And the media

00:19:09.320 would not allow for that

00:19:10.060 during Kavanaugh.

00:19:11.200 Why would,

00:19:11.740 why would,

00:19:12.440 Joe Biden would not allow for it.

00:19:14.020 His quote was like,

00:19:15.280 any woman who would stand up 1.00

00:19:16.980 in the fire of the public eye

00:19:19.620 deserves to be,

00:19:21.260 the assumption needs to be

00:19:22.620 that the essence

00:19:23.280 of their story is correct.

00:19:25.080 Right.

00:19:25.780 Not now.

00:19:26.540 Not now.

00:19:27.420 Not now.

00:19:27.760 Not according to his campaign.

00:19:29.340 No,

00:19:29.960 Joe categorically denies

00:19:32.240 that this happened.

00:19:33.200 Well,

00:19:33.320 Joe has never,

00:19:34.480 he's not addressed it.

00:19:36.100 And it's fascinating to me

00:19:37.300 that nobody asks him about it.

00:19:38.960 Thank you.

00:19:39.700 Nobody asks him.

00:19:40.520 Because I was listening to,

00:19:41.480 the New York Times

00:19:42.040 did a big story on this.

00:19:43.360 Finally.

00:19:44.000 It took 20 days,

00:19:46.040 something like that.

00:19:46.780 Mm-hmm.

00:19:47.280 From the accusation.

00:19:48.260 They decided to finally

00:19:48.940 follow up on it

00:19:49.620 and understand it.

00:19:50.280 Which is interesting

00:19:50.860 because if it was made

00:19:51.940 against a Republican day one,

00:19:53.140 there's a new story about it.

00:19:54.180 the next day.

00:19:55.400 Just outlining the allegations

00:19:56.600 without question.

00:19:58.240 And at the very end,

00:19:59.320 there'd be like,

00:19:59.800 the Trump administration

00:20:00.680 denied the claims.

00:20:01.880 Right?

00:20:01.980 Like,

00:20:02.160 that's all you'd get

00:20:03.060 from the other side.

00:20:03.820 It would just be,

00:20:04.240 and it would be

00:20:05.060 a cinematic telling of it.

00:20:07.760 You know,

00:20:08.240 she walked into the dark room

00:20:10.040 with a fire burning

00:20:11.140 into the corner.

00:20:12.020 Yes.

00:20:12.120 The cold steel of the table.

00:20:13.860 You would have had the whole,

00:20:15.620 it would have felt like a movie.

00:20:17.360 Mm-hmm.

00:20:17.560 You would have been able

00:20:18.180 to picture yourself there

00:20:19.400 and you would have pictured

00:20:20.160 Donald Trump doing this

00:20:21.140 to this woman.

00:20:22.080 Instead,

00:20:22.840 it's a police blotter

00:20:24.640 of an article.

00:20:25.700 Yep.

00:20:26.080 She claims this.

00:20:26.860 She claims this.

00:20:27.540 She claims this.

00:20:28.180 They claim this.

00:20:28.860 They claim this.

00:20:29.420 It's like,

00:20:29.700 it's nothing.

00:20:30.260 It's just,

00:20:30.580 it's not even a story.

00:20:31.320 It's just like a bunch

00:20:32.120 of claims

00:20:32.580 and the fact

00:20:34.740 that people

00:20:35.680 who currently work

00:20:37.400 for Joe Biden

00:20:38.260 or people who worked

00:20:39.560 for Joe Biden

00:20:40.280 back in the day

00:20:41.120 say they don't remember

00:20:42.300 anything like it.

00:20:43.220 They can't,

00:20:43.580 of course,

00:20:43.800 disprove it,

00:20:44.900 but they don't remember

00:20:46.500 anything like it.

00:20:46.820 But there's no pattern

00:20:47.860 of sexual assault

00:20:49.520 in Joe Biden's past.

00:20:51.980 I love this.

00:20:52.620 And then at the very end,

00:20:54.200 they outline the pattern

00:20:55.640 of Joe Biden's sexual assault

00:20:57.920 with people,

00:20:59.480 with women

00:21:00.220 who have been,

00:21:00.880 you know,

00:21:01.700 uncomfortable

00:21:02.280 and who have made claims

00:21:04.960 that he did sexually

00:21:08.980 assault them in some way.

00:21:10.580 Right.

00:21:11.100 Whether through a kiss

00:21:12.240 that was unwanted

00:21:13.160 or touching that's unwanted.

00:21:15.200 Here's the initial tweet

00:21:16.160 and this is also

00:21:17.660 in the story.

00:21:18.720 You should know initially

00:21:19.880 and then was changed.

00:21:20.880 Here's what they said.

00:21:21.580 No other allegation

00:21:22.360 about a sexual assault

00:21:23.220 surfaced in the course

00:21:24.100 of our reporting

00:21:24.680 nor did any former

00:21:25.800 Biden staff corroborate

00:21:26.960 Reid's allegation.

00:21:28.140 We found no pattern

00:21:29.160 of sexual misconduct

00:21:30.100 by Biden

00:21:30.800 beyond hugs,

00:21:32.840 kisses and touching

00:21:33.640 that women previously said. 1.00

00:21:35.720 Beyond the pattern

00:21:36.420 that we've found.

00:21:38.060 Right.

00:21:38.460 And that's an issue

00:21:39.020 with patterns.

00:21:40.060 You can't throw out

00:21:41.200 all previous evidence

00:21:42.420 and ever have a pattern.

00:21:43.600 Right.

00:21:43.960 Right.

00:21:44.140 A pattern is something

00:21:44.920 that is repeated.

00:21:45.560 So if you throw out

00:21:46.660 all the other examples

00:21:47.840 you have of it,

00:21:49.200 nothing can be a pattern.

00:21:50.820 Yes.

00:21:51.420 This is what they had.

00:21:52.860 Obviously,

00:21:53.300 there is an issue

00:21:54.240 that Joe has

00:21:55.020 with being a little handsy.

00:21:56.920 Yeah.

00:21:57.400 It's been joked about

00:21:58.260 for a very long time.

00:21:59.520 And we've seen the pattern

00:22:00.480 repeat itself

00:22:01.200 over and over and over again.

00:22:02.540 It is a pattern.

00:22:03.680 Bike women 1.00

00:22:04.420 sitting on his lap

00:22:05.860 in a bar.

00:22:06.740 I mean,

00:22:07.020 there's all kinds of

00:22:08.000 the Senate

00:22:09.680 greeting thing

00:22:11.320 that he does

00:22:12.020 with the new senators

00:22:13.040 and congressmen

00:22:14.600 that come in

00:22:15.500 and he eats

00:22:15.940 all over their families

00:22:17.040 and stuff.

00:22:17.820 It's weird.

00:22:18.500 Yeah.

00:22:18.800 It's been weird.

00:22:19.640 And it was a jokey thing

00:22:21.180 for a very long time

00:22:22.240 among conservatives

00:22:23.100 and Republicans

00:22:24.160 who just know

00:22:24.940 it was weird.

00:22:26.060 Yes.

00:22:26.440 It changed into something else

00:22:27.600 when seven individual women

00:22:28.940 came out and said,

00:22:29.760 it really made us

00:22:30.480 feel uncomfortable.

00:22:31.200 Like,

00:22:31.720 it wasn't a joke to them.

00:22:33.140 They really didn't like it.

00:22:34.380 Yeah.

00:22:34.600 And especially this one person

00:22:36.220 who was on the staff.

00:22:37.140 And she was one of the seven.

00:22:38.200 Yeah.

00:22:38.440 Yeah.

00:22:38.760 So the New York Times

00:22:39.440 talked to her

00:22:40.380 back when they were doing

00:22:41.160 this initial story

00:22:42.020 and they seemed to claim

00:22:43.420 that she brought up

00:22:45.240 additional things

00:22:46.500 other than

00:22:48.140 just a little hair sniffing

00:22:50.340 and,

00:22:51.120 you know,

00:22:51.920 uncomfortable touching.

00:22:53.460 But because they couldn't

00:22:54.760 get any corroboration,

00:22:55.680 they didn't put it

00:22:56.260 in the story.

00:22:57.040 Well,

00:22:57.500 here we are,

00:22:58.300 you know.

00:22:59.280 Wow.

00:22:59.600 What a difference

00:23:00.400 from Kavanaugh.

00:23:01.280 Oh,

00:23:01.420 yeah.

00:23:01.920 They had no corroboration

00:23:03.620 at all

00:23:04.480 and put it in the stories

00:23:05.820 anyway.

00:23:06.300 Yeah.

00:23:06.440 Remember with Kavanaugh,

00:23:07.600 not only did we

00:23:08.300 not have the time

00:23:09.860 it happened.

00:23:10.340 We didn't even have

00:23:11.020 the location it happened.

00:23:12.760 Right.

00:23:13.080 And if my memory serves me,

00:23:14.200 I don't know that we ever

00:23:15.180 had any information

00:23:15.860 that they ever met.

00:23:17.700 Do we ever know

00:23:18.520 that Kavanaugh

00:23:19.520 and Blasey Ford

00:23:20.800 met when they were

00:23:21.860 in high school?

00:23:22.620 I don't think so.

00:23:23.260 I don't remember.

00:23:24.320 I mean,

00:23:24.640 it's possible

00:23:25.180 I'm forgetting details there,

00:23:26.720 but I don't remember

00:23:27.600 that being the case.

00:23:28.860 So there's much

00:23:29.880 more information here.

00:23:31.360 The Times was asked

00:23:32.600 and actually

00:23:33.440 gives some credit

00:23:34.500 to Ben Smith,

00:23:36.260 who he used to be

00:23:37.260 the guy who ran BuzzFeed.

00:23:38.460 He's over at the New York

00:23:39.080 Times now.

00:23:39.920 He did an interview

00:23:41.340 basically with the Times,

00:23:43.660 asking the Times,

00:23:44.620 his own employer,

00:23:46.120 what the hell happened

00:23:47.140 here exactly?

00:23:49.300 You know,

00:23:49.720 his first question was,

00:23:51.060 Tara Reid may hear

00:23:51.640 allegation on March 25th.

00:23:53.960 Why not cover it then

00:23:54.900 as breaking news?

00:23:56.980 That is an interesting one

00:23:57.880 because you don't have to have

00:23:59.020 a full investigation done

00:24:00.480 the day she makes

00:24:01.100 the investigation,

00:24:02.020 but you don't even report

00:24:02.780 on it?

00:24:03.300 Right.

00:24:03.660 No passing story.

00:24:07.000 And listen to this answer

00:24:08.260 by,

00:24:08.660 this is the,

00:24:10.680 what's this actual

00:24:11.460 position here?

00:24:14.360 The executive editor

00:24:15.480 of the Times.

00:24:16.420 This is his answer.

00:24:17.580 Lots of people covered

00:24:18.520 it as breaking news

00:24:19.300 at the time.

00:24:20.480 First of all,

00:24:21.020 come on,

00:24:21.360 what?

00:24:21.620 Right wing blogs?

00:24:23.080 Right?

00:24:23.260 Like there were not

00:24:23.960 a lot of people

00:24:24.620 who covered it that way

00:24:25.540 in the mainstream media.

00:24:26.840 It says lots of people

00:24:27.420 covered it as breaking news

00:24:28.180 at the time.

00:24:28.620 Plus aren't you

00:24:29.120 the paper of record?

00:24:30.000 Right.

00:24:30.140 Wouldn't you want to

00:24:31.260 be part of that

00:24:32.340 breaking news?

00:24:33.180 Of course.

00:24:33.960 Right?

00:24:34.240 You'd think.

00:24:35.740 Lots of people covered

00:24:36.640 it as breaking news

00:24:37.280 at the time.

00:24:37.840 And I just thought

00:24:38.800 nobody other than

00:24:39.780 the intercept

00:24:40.380 was actually doing

00:24:41.560 the reporting

00:24:42.120 to help people

00:24:42.720 figure out

00:24:43.140 what to make of it.

00:24:44.020 My gosh.

00:24:44.540 So the New York Times

00:24:45.320 is now ceding

00:24:46.060 its authority

00:24:46.680 to the intercept

00:24:47.600 to say,

00:24:49.380 oh, well,

00:24:49.800 look,

00:24:50.120 the intercept had it

00:24:51.280 so we didn't need

00:24:51.780 to do anything on it.

00:24:52.760 I don't even know

00:24:53.680 what the intercept is.

00:24:55.600 I think it's

00:24:56.500 Glenn Greenwald's

00:24:57.560 thing.

00:24:58.800 Oh, okay.

00:24:59.280 And like,

00:24:59.760 you know,

00:25:00.200 again,

00:25:01.040 no knock on the

00:25:02.000 intercept,

00:25:02.560 right?

00:25:02.820 I mean,

00:25:03.020 it's just not

00:25:03.900 but like what they

00:25:04.440 say,

00:25:04.640 you know what?

00:25:04.960 Look,

00:25:05.200 we just did.

00:25:05.880 We saw the blazes

00:25:07.000 covering it

00:25:07.680 and we were just

00:25:08.720 like,

00:25:08.920 ah,

00:25:09.220 the blazes got it.

00:25:10.180 Just let them

00:25:10.840 have this one.

00:25:11.760 Like,

00:25:11.940 that's not what

00:25:12.520 you do in the

00:25:13.220 news business.

00:25:13.880 No,

00:25:14.020 it is not.

00:25:14.340 Everyone writes

00:25:15.000 about the same

00:25:15.540 stories every day,

00:25:16.640 just like the New York

00:25:17.740 Times does every day.

00:25:19.400 Then the other

00:25:20.280 admission that they've

00:25:21.720 made is absolutely

00:25:23.940 staggering.

00:25:25.300 Stunning.

00:25:25.900 We'll tell you

00:25:26.560 about that in 60

00:25:27.900 seconds.

00:25:28.360 It's unbelievable.

00:25:30.180 This one is

00:25:30.840 incredible,

00:25:31.220 actually.

00:25:32.240 Because it's just

00:25:32.640 the fact,

00:25:32.880 it's not the fact

00:25:33.280 that it happened,

00:25:33.800 it's just the fact

00:25:34.200 that they're

00:25:34.500 actually admitting

00:25:35.380 it.

00:25:35.780 Yeah.

00:25:36.380 It's crazy.

00:25:37.540 Amazing.

00:25:37.820 This is the best of

00:25:43.520 the Glenn Beck

00:25:43.940 program and don't

00:25:44.780 forget,

00:25:45.480 rate us on

00:25:46.400 iTunes.

00:25:53.700 It's Pat and Stu

00:25:54.600 in for Glenn who

00:25:55.860 is out sick today.

00:25:57.380 He claims not

00:25:59.000 from COVID-19.

00:26:00.300 That was his claim

00:26:01.240 in the email this

00:26:02.080 morning.

00:26:02.660 He said,

00:26:03.560 I'm not going to be

00:26:04.400 in,

00:26:04.620 not feeling well,

00:26:05.360 and then in all

00:26:06.080 capital letters,

00:26:06.780 it's not coronavirus.

00:26:08.580 Has he been tested?

00:26:09.460 How does he know?

00:26:09.920 I don't know.

00:26:10.320 How does he know?

00:26:10.940 This is exactly how

00:26:11.640 it starts.

00:26:12.180 Someone claims they

00:26:12.940 don't have it and

00:26:13.580 then it starts

00:26:13.960 spreading all over

00:26:14.480 the place.

00:26:15.720 He's basically a

00:26:18.120 horseshoe bat in

00:26:19.000 Wuhan is how I think

00:26:20.220 of Glenn right now.

00:26:21.420 He's just,

00:26:22.140 he's patient zero.

00:26:23.380 So stay at home.

00:26:24.640 Do not come in for

00:26:25.380 any reason.

00:26:26.680 Glenn,

00:26:27.300 hopefully we'll be

00:26:27.860 back on the air

00:26:28.580 tomorrow from a safe

00:26:30.980 distance from you and

00:26:32.940 and his microphone.

00:26:34.860 Jeremy Dice is with

00:26:36.440 us.

00:26:36.820 Jeremy is a special

00:26:37.780 counsel at First

00:26:38.360 Liberty Institute and

00:26:40.380 also a well-known

00:26:42.500 Ernest goes to camp

00:26:43.800 aficionado.

00:26:45.240 He is on the

00:26:46.220 program with us now.

00:26:48.040 This is not the

00:26:48.660 first thing that you

00:26:49.840 mentioned because

00:26:50.540 that's,

00:26:51.060 that's the bigger

00:26:52.180 issue right there.

00:26:53.080 It is.

00:26:53.700 We could spend the

00:26:54.460 whole segment on any

00:26:55.460 variation of Ernest

00:26:56.760 movies if you,

00:26:57.520 if you prefer,

00:26:58.280 Jeremy.

00:26:59.260 No,

00:26:59.480 there's only three to

00:27:00.260 discuss,

00:27:00.760 of course,

00:27:01.240 but I'm glad to be

00:27:02.920 known for my,

00:27:03.980 my,

00:27:04.300 my profound knowledge

00:27:05.420 of pop culture in

00:27:06.220 this regard,

00:27:06.680 but let's get on to

00:27:07.480 things that I may

00:27:08.380 want to be more

00:27:08.960 respected for.

00:27:10.180 It's possible.

00:27:11.280 There is some pretty

00:27:12.960 obviously serious

00:27:13.920 stuff going on right

00:27:14.760 now outside of just

00:27:16.400 what we're dealing

00:27:17.160 with,

00:27:17.360 with the,

00:27:17.960 with the virus

00:27:18.680 itself.

00:27:19.400 There is an

00:27:20.740 instinct by a lot

00:27:22.300 of people who have

00:27:24.440 a new grip on

00:27:26.040 power and,

00:27:26.940 and seemingly no,

00:27:28.680 nothing's stopping

00:27:29.580 them from wielding

00:27:30.260 it.

00:27:30.900 And what we're

00:27:31.740 seeing now in the

00:27:32.780 world of faith and

00:27:34.580 the restrictions

00:27:35.280 from people

00:27:36.480 worshiping,

00:27:37.660 even when it

00:27:38.200 comes to driving

00:27:39.480 their car and

00:27:40.140 doing a car-based

00:27:41.080 service,

00:27:41.840 we're seeing

00:27:42.300 restrictions on

00:27:42.880 that.

00:27:43.340 And it's something

00:27:44.260 I know you're

00:27:44.900 following very

00:27:45.580 closely.

00:27:47.520 We are.

00:27:48.120 And I think you

00:27:48.900 framed this exactly

00:27:49.920 right,

00:27:50.520 that there is,

00:27:51.820 look,

00:27:52.140 I think all

00:27:52.800 Americans understood

00:27:53.960 the need to kind

00:27:55.000 of pump the brakes

00:27:55.740 for a second

00:27:56.280 during this pandemic

00:27:57.700 and,

00:27:58.360 and begin to,

00:27:59.340 to figure out,

00:28:00.320 okay,

00:28:00.360 what's the lie of

00:28:00.840 the land,

00:28:01.200 what we've got to

00:28:01.580 do here to make

00:28:02.160 sure this stops.

00:28:02.920 Why?

00:28:03.240 Because Americans

00:28:04.420 are very tolerant

00:28:05.220 people,

00:28:05.720 and not only that,

00:28:06.280 they're very loving

00:28:06.800 people.

00:28:07.100 They want to make

00:28:07.600 sure their fellow

00:28:08.180 man is safe and

00:28:09.120 their neighbor is

00:28:09.680 well-loved.

00:28:10.700 And so,

00:28:11.100 yes,

00:28:11.260 they're willing to

00:28:12.100 slam the brakes

00:28:13.020 in some respects to

00:28:13.960 make sure that

00:28:14.520 everybody is safe.

00:28:15.760 But when you give,

00:28:17.780 and this is just a

00:28:18.500 lesson of history,

00:28:19.060 when you give a

00:28:20.600 little bit of power

00:28:21.260 back to a central

00:28:22.080 form of government,

00:28:22.940 that becomes a

00:28:24.740 little bit more

00:28:25.360 than a little

00:28:26.440 after a little

00:28:27.240 while here.

00:28:27.720 And so,

00:28:28.760 you've got

00:28:29.300 municipalities around

00:28:30.380 the country,

00:28:30.980 and don't forget

00:28:31.420 there's some 40,000

00:28:32.400 or more of these

00:28:33.320 municipalities around

00:28:34.120 the country,

00:28:34.640 cities or counties

00:28:35.320 or what have you,

00:28:36.680 that are then

00:28:37.740 abued with more

00:28:38.440 power to try to be,

00:28:40.140 you know,

00:28:40.960 demonstrating a little

00:28:42.220 bit more authority

00:28:42.820 than the last guy.

00:28:44.280 And so it comes down

00:28:45.260 to people like the

00:28:46.080 mayor of Greenville,

00:28:47.080 Mississippi,

00:28:47.760 where he's put

00:28:49.540 in an order there

00:28:50.200 that says that

00:28:51.000 churches cannot meet

00:28:52.360 even with a drive-in

00:28:53.580 service.

00:28:54.160 And why?

00:28:54.820 Well, he said

00:28:55.240 yesterday at a

00:28:55.860 press conference

00:28:56.540 reaffirming his

00:28:57.740 commitment to this

00:28:58.420 unconstitutional order

00:28:59.600 that, well,

00:29:00.960 people are too

00:29:01.620 friendly.

00:29:02.300 They get out of

00:29:03.260 the car and

00:29:03.800 they're going to

00:29:04.100 talk to each other.

00:29:04.900 Specifically,

00:29:05.460 Christians are too

00:29:06.360 friendly and they

00:29:07.000 can't stay in their

00:29:08.060 cars.

00:29:09.060 Well, this is a

00:29:09.720 real problem if

00:29:10.660 you're parked in

00:29:11.620 your car.

00:29:12.200 Number one,

00:29:12.640 I don't think

00:29:13.060 we've known that

00:29:14.300 the virus can

00:29:15.260 actually travel

00:29:15.920 through glass

00:29:17.100 and steel yet.

00:29:19.180 But they've

00:29:20.460 specifically targeted

00:29:21.400 cars parked at

00:29:22.540 church parking lots,

00:29:23.760 not at the

00:29:24.200 Sonic drive-in,

00:29:25.380 not at the

00:29:25.920 Walmart parking lot,

00:29:26.820 not at the

00:29:27.160 liquor store,

00:29:28.120 but specifically

00:29:28.980 churches.

00:29:29.700 And on top of

00:29:30.380 all that,

00:29:31.020 last Thursday

00:29:31.980 when our client

00:29:32.900 in Greenville

00:29:33.940 went to have

00:29:34.520 his drive-in

00:29:35.300 services on

00:29:36.000 Thursday evening,

00:29:37.300 the entire

00:29:38.020 shift of the

00:29:38.920 police force

00:29:39.560 for Greenville,

00:29:40.620 Mississippi,

00:29:41.900 showed up.

00:29:43.860 That's concerning

00:29:44.940 to me.

00:29:45.400 I mean,

00:29:45.560 when all the

00:29:46.400 police officers

00:29:47.060 that are on

00:29:47.620 duty that

00:29:48.120 shift show up

00:29:49.000 to a church

00:29:50.020 to possibly

00:29:51.240 ticket every

00:29:52.000 individual in

00:29:52.740 those cars,

00:29:53.360 $500 for

00:29:54.340 daring to

00:29:54.960 drive from

00:29:55.500 their home

00:29:55.980 with the

00:29:56.720 windows up,

00:29:57.680 park in a

00:29:58.240 church parking

00:29:58.880 lot to hear

00:29:59.560 their pastor

00:30:00.100 preach through

00:30:00.720 the open air,

00:30:02.360 $500 per person?

00:30:04.360 Is this America

00:30:05.260 anymore?

00:30:06.000 This is the kind

00:30:06.840 of thing that

00:30:07.260 has to be put

00:30:08.920 up with,

00:30:09.400 cannot be put

00:30:09.960 up with.

00:30:10.500 We're willing

00:30:11.220 to put up

00:30:11.680 with reasonable

00:30:12.180 restrictions for

00:30:13.040 a temporary

00:30:13.660 period of time.

00:30:14.720 This is not

00:30:15.280 reasonable,

00:30:16.280 nor is it

00:30:17.100 equally applied.

00:30:18.000 When you can

00:30:18.520 park at a liquor

00:30:19.160 store, but not

00:30:20.140 at the church

00:30:20.520 parking lot,

00:30:21.540 that is clear

00:30:22.480 evidence of

00:30:23.080 discrimination.

00:30:24.500 It really is

00:30:24.880 crazy.

00:30:25.700 I think there

00:30:27.120 is an aspect

00:30:27.840 of this where

00:30:28.820 the American

00:30:29.940 people can

00:30:30.420 understand.

00:30:31.280 Most churches,

00:30:32.040 I think,

00:30:32.260 are saying,

00:30:32.920 look, watch

00:30:34.280 us online for

00:30:34.980 a few weeks,

00:30:35.600 and it's okay.

00:30:37.300 I think most

00:30:38.200 people are

00:30:38.840 choosing to

00:30:39.700 do this.

00:30:40.980 They're trying

00:30:41.760 to practice

00:30:42.100 as safely as

00:30:43.000 possible.

00:30:44.120 To me,

00:30:44.640 it makes me

00:30:45.140 nervous if

00:30:45.880 there's any

00:30:46.380 restriction from

00:30:47.120 government on

00:30:48.020 worship at

00:30:48.800 all.

00:30:49.140 I know that

00:30:49.500 if they came

00:30:50.080 and they

00:30:50.360 said,

00:30:50.640 look, we're

00:30:51.360 not going

00:30:51.660 to allow

00:30:52.220 you to buy

00:30:53.240 guns during

00:30:54.080 this period,

00:30:54.540 I would have

00:30:55.000 a huge problem

00:30:55.620 with it.

00:30:56.200 Just because

00:30:56.980 Christians are

00:30:58.020 sort of, as

00:30:59.140 you point out,

00:30:59.760 nice people and

00:31:00.440 want to do the

00:31:00.840 best things for

00:31:01.480 everybody else,

00:31:02.480 that doesn't

00:31:02.860 necessarily, it

00:31:05.200 doesn't make it

00:31:05.720 okay for them to

00:31:06.440 be restricting

00:31:06.880 this in any way.

00:31:07.920 What is the

00:31:08.400 traditional role

00:31:10.200 here in this

00:31:10.860 type of situation

00:31:11.960 for the state

00:31:14.700 to be able to

00:31:15.860 intercede this

00:31:16.620 way?

00:31:16.980 Do they have

00:31:17.540 any right to

00:31:18.200 do any of

00:31:18.780 this stuff?

00:31:20.320 Certainly, the

00:31:21.300 state does have

00:31:22.300 a compelling

00:31:22.700 justification here,

00:31:23.720 right?

00:31:23.920 That's what's

00:31:24.420 necessary for

00:31:25.180 the state to

00:31:25.800 enforce or to

00:31:26.980 put on hold

00:31:28.500 our First

00:31:29.300 Amendment rights

00:31:30.000 or any of our

00:31:30.500 constitutional rights

00:31:31.120 for that matter.

00:31:32.200 A worldwide

00:31:33.080 pandemic is

00:31:34.360 going to almost

00:31:34.960 always be upheld

00:31:36.200 in any court

00:31:37.400 there is around

00:31:37.820 the country,

00:31:38.380 but that

00:31:38.800 justification has

00:31:41.040 to be met

00:31:41.460 very narrowly and

00:31:42.740 very equally

00:31:43.360 applied.

00:31:43.940 In other words,

00:31:44.880 if there are

00:31:45.760 lesser ways to be

00:31:46.580 able to control

00:31:47.040 the pandemic,

00:31:47.840 the government

00:31:48.240 has to follow

00:31:49.100 those.

00:31:49.840 But on top

00:31:50.380 of all that,

00:31:50.980 and much more

00:31:51.740 basically, it

00:31:53.040 can't say,

00:31:53.580 well, look,

00:31:54.000 cars parked at

00:31:54.760 a liquor store

00:31:55.520 are fine, but

00:31:56.800 church parking

00:31:57.380 lots are wrong.

00:31:58.940 You know, we

00:31:59.380 had the same

00:31:59.920 issue in

00:32:00.440 Louisville,

00:32:00.900 Kentucky last

00:32:01.620 week, and we

00:32:02.820 filed a lawsuit

00:32:03.540 last Friday, and

00:32:04.740 overnight, the

00:32:05.840 judge there,

00:32:06.360 Judge Walker,

00:32:07.360 turned out a

00:32:08.140 really fabulous

00:32:08.880 opinion to

00:32:09.580 remind everybody

00:32:10.300 of how

00:32:10.960 overreaching the

00:32:12.020 city of Louisville

00:32:12.600 have become,

00:32:13.180 and put a

00:32:14.200 temporary restraining

00:32:14.940 order against

00:32:15.460 it.

00:32:15.640 In fact, we're

00:32:15.920 going to have a

00:32:16.200 hearing in a few

00:32:16.740 minutes here to

00:32:17.880 turn that in, we

00:32:18.600 hope, to a

00:32:19.200 preliminary injunction

00:32:19.980 to fully enforce

00:32:21.400 that.

00:32:22.200 But again, it's a

00:32:23.220 demonstration that

00:32:24.080 the city of

00:32:24.600 Louisville, who

00:32:25.400 is going to send

00:32:25.880 out their police

00:32:26.400 officers to take

00:32:27.360 down license plates

00:32:28.380 numbers and

00:32:29.360 enforce anyone

00:32:30.140 parked in a

00:32:30.740 church parking

00:32:31.300 lot on Easter

00:32:31.860 Sunday morning

00:32:32.480 into a 14-day

00:32:33.540 quarantine period,

00:32:35.140 I mean, goodness

00:32:35.680 gracious, that is

00:32:36.540 not the kind of

00:32:37.100 thing that we

00:32:37.600 expect our police

00:32:38.420 officers to be

00:32:39.080 doing in the

00:32:39.840 United States of

00:32:40.540 America in

00:32:41.180 2020.

00:32:41.980 2020, that is

00:32:43.660 certainly not the

00:32:44.280 level of freedom

00:32:44.920 that we get.

00:32:45.620 So look, while

00:32:46.500 there may be some

00:32:47.200 reason for a

00:32:48.040 temporary restriction

00:32:49.120 on some large

00:32:50.180 in-person gatherings,

00:32:52.040 I think you're

00:32:52.760 hearing America

00:32:53.300 wondering, wait a

00:32:54.080 minute, is this

00:32:54.520 temporary anymore?

00:32:56.260 And how long is

00:32:57.100 this going to

00:32:57.680 last?

00:32:58.100 And on top of

00:32:58.620 all that, why

00:32:59.920 are they being so

00:33:00.780 targeted at churches

00:33:01.820 and not anywhere

00:33:02.500 else?

00:33:02.880 That doesn't seem

00:33:03.440 to make a whole

00:33:03.980 lot of sense, as

00:33:04.620 if the virus

00:33:05.100 somehow targets

00:33:06.660 churches themselves

00:33:07.520 instead of liquor

00:33:08.920 stores.

00:33:10.300 Well, there are a

00:33:11.260 couple of instances

00:33:12.120 where there have

00:33:13.320 been some other

00:33:13.760 weird restrictions,

00:33:14.600 like the Chicago

00:33:16.080 mayor said that if

00:33:17.680 you're found

00:33:18.600 outside, then you

00:33:20.880 can be ticketed, or

00:33:22.680 like in Philadelphia

00:33:24.140 the other day, where

00:33:25.500 10 cops dragged a

00:33:27.340 guy off a bus

00:33:28.100 because he wasn't

00:33:28.900 wearing a mask.

00:33:30.440 Is it, I mean, can

00:33:31.760 law enforcement

00:33:32.540 really enforce

00:33:34.460 restrictions that are

00:33:37.240 that severe?

00:33:37.940 I guess we're

00:33:40.280 going to find

00:33:40.740 out.

00:33:41.180 I mean, I

00:33:41.800 assume it was

00:33:42.400 Stuart, Pat, one

00:33:43.460 of you guys that

00:33:44.140 were out paddle

00:33:44.720 boarding in the

00:33:45.260 Pacific Ocean and

00:33:46.120 got dragged into

00:33:46.900 the store by the

00:33:48.360 police as well.

00:33:49.360 I mean, it's

00:33:50.480 incredible where

00:33:51.540 the police are

00:33:52.920 given greater

00:33:54.500 authority somehow

00:33:55.320 right now during the

00:33:56.120 middle of a

00:33:56.420 pandemic.

00:33:57.500 Maybe what the

00:33:58.340 virus has done for

00:33:59.340 all of us is

00:34:00.000 provided a bit of

00:34:01.280 a cultural truth

00:34:02.640 serum to find out

00:34:03.760 exactly where,

00:34:05.680 what do we really

00:34:07.060 believe about

00:34:07.660 freedom, and what

00:34:08.980 does that mean for

00:34:09.960 us all?

00:34:10.600 Look, let me just

00:34:11.240 talk in the area of

00:34:11.940 religious liberty

00:34:12.400 since that's kind

00:34:12.980 of where I spend

00:34:13.460 my life.

00:34:14.500 You know, we're

00:34:15.320 kind of living out

00:34:16.280 the left vision for

00:34:17.780 religious freedom,

00:34:18.640 or what they call

00:34:19.220 the freedom to

00:34:20.040 worship right now.

00:34:21.660 Do church at home, 1.00

00:34:23.000 inside your house.

00:34:24.260 Maybe you can

00:34:24.940 access it virtually,

00:34:26.480 but don't you dare

00:34:27.020 bring it into your

00:34:27.580 place of work, or

00:34:29.400 take it to school,

00:34:30.300 or into the military

00:34:30.980 with you.

00:34:31.580 Don't get outside

00:34:32.200 the four walls of

00:34:32.980 your home.

00:34:34.020 Keep it locked

00:34:34.600 down.

00:34:35.020 And if you

00:34:36.120 appear in public,

00:34:36.920 the police are

00:34:37.300 going to come out

00:34:37.920 and disperse your

00:34:38.980 group and ticket you

00:34:39.780 if you do.

00:34:41.080 This is not the

00:34:41.800 vision of the

00:34:42.260 founding fathers.

00:34:43.240 This is not what

00:34:44.240 we intended to have

00:34:45.240 as religious liberty

00:34:46.100 in the long haul.

00:34:47.760 And so I think it's

00:34:48.480 important for us to

00:34:49.160 stop and look around.

00:34:50.620 This is the vision

00:34:51.440 of the left right

00:34:52.320 now.

00:34:52.900 This is not the

00:34:53.600 vision that our

00:34:54.100 founding fathers

00:34:54.620 had.

00:34:55.000 This is not the

00:34:55.440 vision that we've

00:34:56.400 been living for 200

00:34:57.320 plus years in the

00:34:58.120 United States of

00:34:58.660 America.

00:34:59.160 This is not the

00:35:00.020 level of freedom

00:35:00.660 that you and I

00:35:01.800 not only expect,

00:35:03.040 but are due under

00:35:04.880 not only the

00:35:05.500 Constitution but our

00:35:06.500 Declaration of

00:35:07.020 Independence.

00:35:07.600 This is not the

00:35:08.460 freedom that we have

00:35:09.800 ordered our lives by.

00:35:12.300 I think part of this

00:35:13.220 too is when they

00:35:13.880 talk about essential

00:35:15.040 businesses.

00:35:15.740 And by the way,

00:35:16.200 I don't think any

00:35:17.540 governor has been

00:35:19.160 daring enough to not

00:35:20.380 include alcohol,

00:35:21.700 which is really

00:35:22.380 bizarre.

00:35:23.160 I mean, the liquor

00:35:23.800 store, I think, in

00:35:24.520 every state is protected

00:35:25.540 as an essential

00:35:26.260 business, which I

00:35:27.240 mean, I understand

00:35:27.840 we're stressed out

00:35:28.660 here, but I don't

00:35:29.120 know that that's

00:35:29.540 necessarily as

00:35:30.420 important as other

00:35:31.360 constitutionally

00:35:32.260 guaranteed rights.

00:35:33.560 But when it comes

00:35:34.180 to church, it not

00:35:35.740 only, I think, has

00:35:36.460 an effect as far

00:35:38.300 as constitutionally

00:35:39.620 and what the right

00:35:40.340 thing to do is to

00:35:41.860 allow people to

00:35:42.640 worship if they're

00:35:43.320 taking normal

00:35:44.820 precautions and doing

00:35:45.740 the best that they

00:35:46.220 can, but in

00:35:47.080 addition, if you

00:35:47.900 want people to

00:35:48.800 voluntarily do

00:35:51.700 this large swath

00:35:53.980 of restrictions and

00:35:55.980 life changes,

00:35:57.380 giving them a

00:35:58.500 foundational thing

00:35:59.620 they can still

00:36:00.280 connect to is

00:36:01.640 actually going to

00:36:02.220 help us all

00:36:04.140 kind of, if we're

00:36:05.360 in the middle of a

00:36:05.780 shut-in, it's going

00:36:06.380 to help us because

00:36:07.500 we're going to have

00:36:07.980 some outlet, we're

00:36:08.840 going to have some

00:36:09.420 way to stay sane,

00:36:10.320 we're going to have

00:36:10.660 some sort of

00:36:11.160 foundational basis

00:36:12.080 that we can get to

00:36:13.380 and making an enemy

00:36:14.920 out of the churches

00:36:16.000 and the pastors around

00:36:16.840 this country strikes me

00:36:18.060 as a terrible idea

00:36:19.240 for the government.

00:36:21.260 And for the culture

00:36:22.480 at large.

00:36:23.220 Look, the government

00:36:23.980 is not really very

00:36:25.100 capable of providing

00:36:26.080 care, call, and

00:36:26.980 comfort.

00:36:27.940 That actually is the

00:36:28.700 domain of the church.

00:36:29.420 And our houses of

00:36:30.980 worship have proven

00:36:31.900 over millennia the

00:36:33.860 ability to provide

00:36:34.980 that level of comfort

00:36:36.060 and care and calm

00:36:37.820 amidst pandemics and

00:36:39.040 epidemics and wars and

00:36:40.620 everything like that.

00:36:41.920 And so for the

00:36:42.680 government to kind of

00:36:43.340 kick them aside as if

00:36:44.400 they're some sort of

00:36:45.140 needless appendage, as

00:36:46.620 if they're the, you

00:36:47.480 know, the appendix of

00:36:48.480 the culture around us

00:36:49.780 that is not really

00:36:50.440 needed and we don't

00:36:51.000 know why they're even

00:36:52.140 here, that strikes me

00:36:54.020 as extremely not only

00:36:55.580 intolerant of religion, 0.94

00:36:57.280 but in some respects

00:36:58.160 really hostile towards

00:36:59.240 religion as a whole.

00:37:00.260 And so again, I think

00:37:00.820 the virus is revealing

00:37:01.880 here some biases that

00:37:03.960 were deep hidden

00:37:05.240 amongst some politicians

00:37:06.400 and are coming out.

00:37:08.100 Look, Mayor de Blasio

00:37:09.080 a couple weeks ago, and

00:37:09.860 I really kind of feel

00:37:10.380 badly of kind of

00:37:11.340 pushing against a mayor

00:37:13.100 who has had a lot of

00:37:14.400 stuff going on in their

00:37:15.240 city.

00:37:16.140 But I mean, he comes

00:37:17.000 out and says, hey,

00:37:18.280 you know, if these

00:37:18.900 synagogues don't abide by 1.00

00:37:20.420 my orders, I'm going to

00:37:21.960 send the health

00:37:22.360 department out and we're

00:37:23.080 going to permanently

00:37:23.580 shut them down.

00:37:25.000 Permanently shut down

00:37:26.000 synagogues? 0.98

00:37:27.400 Is this America in

00:37:28.760 2020?

00:37:29.940 That's never going to

00:37:30.900 fly into the

00:37:31.380 Constitution.

00:37:32.000 And the worst thing

00:37:32.580 is that to my

00:37:33.180 knowledge, I don't

00:37:33.660 think the mayor has

00:37:34.340 actually walked those

00:37:35.020 comments back.

00:37:36.420 No, I don't think he

00:37:37.220 has.

00:37:38.000 And it's interesting

00:37:39.040 when you think back

00:37:40.100 to what's been going

00:37:42.420 on in this country

00:37:43.140 for a while from

00:37:44.320 someone on the left,

00:37:46.840 they have been setting

00:37:47.880 the stage for this

00:37:48.740 kind of thing.

00:37:49.340 I know Tammy Baldwin, 0.96

00:37:51.220 Senator Baldwin from

00:37:52.520 Wisconsin, said a

00:37:53.900 couple of years ago

00:37:54.600 that your rights to

00:37:56.620 freedom of religion

00:37:57.440 don't extend much

00:37:58.620 beyond either the

00:38:00.220 church house or your

00:38:01.100 own house.

00:38:01.980 And that's pretty much

00:38:03.120 where they stay.

00:38:05.080 So they've been, and

00:38:06.360 so did Debbie Wasserman

00:38:08.080 Schultz say virtually

00:38:09.020 the same thing.

00:38:09.800 So they've been setting

00:38:11.020 up this attack against

00:38:13.200 religion and trying to

00:38:15.180 minimize the First

00:38:16.400 Amendment as much as

00:38:17.420 they possibly can.

00:38:18.640 Now I think they see

00:38:19.520 their opportunity with

00:38:20.600 this pandemic that they

00:38:22.960 can maybe take some

00:38:24.220 steps to shut it

00:38:25.100 down.

00:38:26.540 It's a shame.

00:38:27.520 And what do they

00:38:27.940 shut down in the

00:38:28.520 process?

00:38:29.540 Well, roughly about a

00:38:31.260 trillion and a half in

00:38:32.480 socioeconomic relief that

00:38:34.060 the faith-based

00:38:34.960 organizations, churches,

00:38:36.180 synagogues, and the

00:38:36.780 like provide to this

00:38:38.120 country.

00:38:38.860 When those charitable

00:38:40.320 dollars and those

00:38:41.160 charitable actions dry

00:38:42.420 up, then that has to

00:38:44.840 go and fall on

00:38:45.720 something and somewhere.

00:38:47.300 And it's going to

00:38:47.880 probably go to central

00:38:48.800 planning again at the

00:38:50.180 governmental level.

00:38:51.560 And that's going to

00:38:52.680 result in what?

00:38:53.740 Greater taxes, less

00:38:55.880 opportunity, and less

00:38:58.060 good being done to our

00:38:59.600 community here.

00:39:00.200 That's why I think it

00:39:00.720 was very critical for

00:39:01.580 the president to

00:39:02.620 include, or the

00:39:03.620 Congress to include

00:39:04.400 within the CARES Act,

00:39:05.460 some relief for these

00:39:06.820 nonprofit organizations.

00:39:08.360 And yet, my gracious,

00:39:10.080 you would have thought

00:39:10.820 you would have to move

00:39:11.540 a mountain in order to

00:39:12.620 be able to have

00:39:13.480 pastors the ability to

00:39:15.440 find relief for their

00:39:17.000 churches within the

00:39:17.980 midst of this coronavirus

00:39:19.360 outbreak, or faith-based

00:39:21.000 institutions who feed

00:39:22.240 children around the

00:39:23.760 world be able to take

00:39:24.760 part in the relief of

00:39:26.380 the CARES Act.

00:39:27.760 That was an incredible

00:39:29.540 fight within the

00:39:30.540 Congress and within

00:39:31.660 the administration, or

00:39:32.520 at least within the

00:39:33.080 rules afterwards.

00:39:34.180 Thank goodness that all

00:39:35.260 resulted in relief that

00:39:36.820 are going to be able to

00:39:37.380 continue those charitable

00:39:38.200 acts.

00:39:38.560 Otherwise, you and I and

00:39:40.000 our tax dollars are

00:39:40.780 going to be having to

00:39:41.460 pick up that bill.

00:39:42.600 And Jeremy Dice,

00:39:43.500 Special Counsel, First

00:39:44.440 Liberty Institute, in the

00:39:45.480 middle of fighting all

00:39:46.080 these battles right now,

00:39:47.260 also hosts the First

00:39:48.160 Liberty Briefing.

00:39:49.380 Jeremy, thanks for

00:39:49.860 coming on the show,

00:39:50.260 man.

00:39:50.740 My pleasure.

00:39:51.320 Always good to be

00:39:51.720 here, guys.

00:39:52.160 All right.

00:39:52.380 All right.

The Glenn Beck Program - April 14, 2020

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