The Glenn Beck Program - April 14, 2020


Best of The Program ｜ Guest： Jeremy Dys ｜ 4⧸14⧸20


Episode Stats

Length

39 minutes

Words per Minute

190.35278

Word Count

7,590

Sentence Count

578

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Glenn Beck is out sick, and Pat and Stu are here to talk about it. They also talk about the Joe Biden and Brett Kavanaugh hearings, and how the media is covering them differently than they are the Biden and the Kavanaugh hearings.


Transcript

00:00:00.080 Welcome to the podcast. Today, hosted by myself, Stu Bergeer, host of Stu Does America, and Pat Gray, host of Pat Gray Unleashed, why Glenn is out sick with COVID-19.
00:00:13.340 Well, one of the COVIDs. We don't know which one. No, actually, he's saying it's not COVID-19.
00:00:18.220 You know, he's not a doctor. Well, he is a doctor.
00:00:21.140 That's true. Yeah, he actually is.
00:00:23.340 So we don't know. He may have COVID-19. He may not. We don't know the answer to that.
00:00:27.080 But he's not here. We do know that. We talked a little bit about the feud between Anthony Fauci and the president.
00:00:32.860 Is there one or is this a media creation?
00:00:35.340 Is there a difference between the way the New York Times is covering the Joe Biden accusations and the Brett Kavanaugh accusations?
00:00:43.260 We noticed a minor difference there.
00:00:45.180 Yeah, just one, though. Just one little teeny difference.
00:00:47.920 Yeah, it was hard to pick up.
00:00:49.680 There's one or two, but you have to really look closely to see the difference.
00:00:52.840 Real, real slight nuance there. We'll try to walk you through it. It's very difficult.
00:00:56.340 Jeremy Dice joins us. He is from First Liberty Institute, and he's in the middle of these lawsuits against states and cities
00:01:04.380 who are trying to ban people from even doing drive-in services at church.
00:01:09.260 Not okay.
00:01:10.560 And we talk about China and how they're lying to us about COVID-19 and so many other things.
00:01:17.760 It's all today on the podcast. Don't forget to pick up Glenn's new book.
00:01:20.680 It is Arguing with Socialists.
00:01:22.880 It's available now. I know I always say to myself, I don't have any time to read that.
00:01:27.200 A lot of people have plenty of time to read right now.
00:01:29.700 If you're one of those people, pick it up.
00:01:31.220 Arguing with Socialists by Glenn Beck.
00:01:41.260 You're listening to
00:01:42.220 The Best of the Glenn Beck Program
00:01:44.920 So, Stu, how hard up are you for sports right now?
00:01:53.860 It's immeasurable.
00:01:54.960 I'm almost to the point where I just can't take it anymore.
00:01:57.960 Which is why...
00:01:59.920 Was it Saturday?
00:02:01.480 I think Saturday it was an old BYU football games day.
00:02:06.440 I watched both BYU-USC from last season
00:02:09.820 and then the Mangum Miracle at Memorial.
00:02:12.920 BYU over Nebraska in 2015
00:02:15.900 on the last second Hail Mary.
00:02:18.580 Today, my plan is to watch BYU-Miami from 1990.
00:02:23.160 And that's how desperate I am
00:02:24.700 for any kind of sports right now.
00:02:26.680 Just give me a sport!
00:02:29.340 I spent a very long time watching
00:02:31.460 1993's World Series Game 6,
00:02:34.420 the greatest baseball game ever played.
00:02:35.760 Oh, did you?
00:02:36.500 Yes, where the Toronto Blue Jays
00:02:38.480 did beat the Phillies
00:02:39.660 on the last walk-off home run by Joe Carter.
00:02:44.720 Obviously, greatest game ever played.
00:02:46.180 Walk-off home run in the World Series.
00:02:47.380 Everyone knows it.
00:02:48.540 But it's amazing.
00:02:50.220 You'll just dive into anything.
00:02:51.560 I also watched a good chunk
00:02:53.180 of the Eagles-Giants game
00:02:55.400 when the Miracle of the Middlelands 2
00:02:58.500 where Deshaun Jackson returned.
00:03:00.880 What year was this?
00:03:01.480 This was, oh God, 2010.
00:03:04.060 So it wasn't Super Bowl year.
00:03:05.360 No, it was a game where
00:03:06.960 the Eagles were down 24.
00:03:09.840 I think it was 31-7.
00:03:10.880 They came all the way back,
00:03:12.060 tied the game,
00:03:13.360 and then on the last play of the game,
00:03:15.720 the Giants had to punt,
00:03:16.640 punted it stupidly to Deshaun Jackson
00:03:19.080 who first fumbled,
00:03:20.500 regained control,
00:03:21.280 and then ran back for a touchdown
00:03:22.340 to win the game on the last play.
00:03:24.060 38-31.
00:03:25.240 I may have watched some of that too.
00:03:27.180 You may have.
00:03:28.040 You can't remember for sure?
00:03:28.760 I can't remember exactly.
00:03:29.680 I can't remember any of the details of the game.
00:03:31.300 But it is that thing
00:03:32.340 where we are begging for anything.
00:03:34.940 Just please.
00:03:35.800 Sports.
00:03:36.420 Give us anything.
00:03:37.100 To the point of like,
00:03:37.800 I'm not a big golf guy.
00:03:40.260 I'll watch the Masters maybe
00:03:41.980 on the final round.
00:03:43.560 I've been to a couple of tournaments
00:03:45.140 like in person,
00:03:46.080 which are really fun.
00:03:47.020 I think you were last year,
00:03:47.940 didn't you?
00:03:48.600 Yeah.
00:03:49.340 Last couple of years
00:03:50.420 of the PGA Championship,
00:03:51.780 which is...
00:03:52.320 But how old were you last year?
00:03:53.680 I mean,
00:03:53.960 when people went to live sporting events.
00:03:56.100 It feels like a thousand years ago.
00:03:57.460 I was even born last year.
00:03:59.460 I mean,
00:03:59.640 just think about what you were...
00:04:00.940 I was standing there
00:04:02.260 with like thousands of people
00:04:04.040 crowded into this little area.
00:04:06.100 I mean,
00:04:06.920 it doesn't even seem possible
00:04:08.100 it's ever going to happen again.
00:04:09.080 I know it will,
00:04:10.100 but it doesn't feel like it right now.
00:04:11.340 It really doesn't.
00:04:12.380 But that's the one sport
00:04:14.160 that there's no reason
00:04:16.120 they can't be doing right now.
00:04:17.800 Golf is like...
00:04:19.180 There's automatic social distancing.
00:04:21.560 Yep.
00:04:22.080 Right?
00:04:22.480 Yeah.
00:04:23.160 Social distancing,
00:04:24.400 you could even put...
00:04:25.340 For a pro tournament,
00:04:26.140 there's no reason
00:04:27.160 you couldn't put
00:04:28.000 one person
00:04:29.500 on one hole
00:04:32.040 at a time.
00:04:32.700 And just tell fans
00:04:33.620 they can't come.
00:04:34.300 Yeah.
00:04:34.780 But it would just be a TV event.
00:04:36.620 Right.
00:04:36.940 Right.
00:04:37.340 Right.
00:04:37.700 And you pop it on there
00:04:38.680 and you could play
00:04:39.040 all these tournaments.
00:04:39.720 I'd watch at this point.
00:04:40.980 I don't even like golf.
00:04:42.140 I would get into golf.
00:04:43.040 Yeah, absolutely.
00:04:43.940 You know,
00:04:44.300 and I think it's a silly thing
00:04:45.960 that cities and states
00:04:47.380 have been trying
00:04:47.880 to take away from people
00:04:48.880 because of,
00:04:51.520 you know,
00:04:52.660 social distancing and everything
00:04:53.720 and they're saying
00:04:54.100 it's not an essential activity.
00:04:55.400 Even Texas did.
00:04:56.860 And of course,
00:04:58.400 it's not an essential activity.
00:05:00.260 But that's not the way
00:05:01.060 to look at these things.
00:05:02.200 You need to look at them
00:05:02.840 as what can we give people
00:05:04.680 to keep them sane
00:05:06.600 that will still remain safe.
00:05:08.700 Right.
00:05:08.840 And clearly,
00:05:09.600 golf is in that package.
00:05:10.860 You could even say to people,
00:05:13.280 one person on a hole
00:05:14.580 at a time.
00:05:15.280 No foursomes.
00:05:16.440 It's going to be one at a time.
00:05:17.540 It's not going to be as fun.
00:05:19.120 You could easily do two.
00:05:21.000 Remember,
00:05:21.360 most golfers suck,
00:05:22.760 so they slice the ball
00:05:23.560 into opposite woods
00:05:24.320 every time anyway.
00:05:25.040 They're nowhere near each other.
00:05:26.140 Right.
00:05:27.560 Standing six feet away
00:05:28.580 at the tee
00:05:29.220 and the tee only
00:05:30.060 is not a big challenge.
00:05:32.180 So,
00:05:32.800 but they're taking
00:05:33.540 those things away.
00:05:34.480 They're taking them
00:05:35.080 with it.
00:05:35.380 Don't go driving.
00:05:36.120 Don't go out for a drive,
00:05:36.920 Pat.
00:05:37.400 Yeah.
00:05:37.600 Whatever you do,
00:05:38.280 don't go out for a drive.
00:05:38.940 Why?
00:05:39.820 We're in a car with people
00:05:40.960 we're already living with.
00:05:42.280 Why can't we go out
00:05:43.140 for a drive?
00:05:43.820 Does the virus smash
00:05:45.260 through the windshield
00:05:46.100 if you're driving around town?
00:05:47.940 I don't think so.
00:05:48.340 I don't think so either.
00:05:49.400 You know,
00:05:49.660 those are basic.
00:05:50.520 The drive-in church
00:05:51.640 is a good example of it.
00:05:52.820 Yeah.
00:05:53.000 Just letting people
00:05:53.820 go to parks.
00:05:54.360 Let people do that.
00:05:55.060 Come on.
00:05:55.660 California,
00:05:56.180 I think it is,
00:05:56.580 closed down every state park.
00:05:58.460 Why on earth?
00:05:59.380 With all of that territory,
00:06:00.980 with all of that room
00:06:02.120 to keep separate,
00:06:03.280 you want to put
00:06:03.800 a police officer
00:06:04.840 or something down there
00:06:05.820 to make sure
00:06:06.120 there's not a huge gathering
00:06:07.240 to break it up
00:06:08.280 on state property.
00:06:09.760 All right.
00:06:10.560 I mean,
00:06:10.840 you know,
00:06:11.080 okay.
00:06:11.720 Well,
00:06:11.900 California essentially
00:06:13.060 shut down the Pacific Ocean
00:06:14.480 because they wouldn't let
00:06:15.160 a guy paddleboard
00:06:16.100 by himself in it.
00:06:18.640 That's amazing.
00:06:19.160 Now,
00:06:19.320 you could see
00:06:19.960 a situation
00:06:20.740 where a big gathering
00:06:22.360 maybe gets out of control
00:06:23.540 because everyone's
00:06:24.280 at the beach.
00:06:25.080 I know,
00:06:25.380 obviously,
00:06:25.860 Florida had an issue
00:06:27.300 with this.
00:06:28.300 They've now
00:06:28.640 with spring break
00:06:29.560 and Pat
00:06:30.820 separately on this
00:06:32.240 on privacy concerns.
00:06:33.260 It's amazing
00:06:34.220 how much information
00:06:35.320 they already have
00:06:36.060 and we're releasing.
00:06:37.100 They released a whole article
00:06:38.720 about how
00:06:39.600 they've tracked
00:06:40.700 all the people
00:06:41.740 who were at spring break
00:06:45.260 and where they went after.
00:06:46.960 So,
00:06:47.100 you know,
00:06:47.260 of course,
00:06:47.500 people are visiting
00:06:48.040 from all over the country
00:06:48.780 and they show.
00:06:49.760 Now,
00:06:50.140 again,
00:06:50.280 it's aggregated data
00:06:51.460 and that is different
00:06:52.500 than anonymized data.
00:06:53.660 These things get
00:06:54.240 conflated a lot
00:06:55.400 where like anonymized data
00:06:56.700 is they take your information
00:06:58.040 and they take your name
00:06:59.820 off of it,
00:07:00.300 but they can still see
00:07:01.280 everywhere you traveled.
00:07:02.580 And as we pointed out
00:07:03.580 multiple times,
00:07:04.220 there's only one person
00:07:05.200 on earth
00:07:05.560 that drives
00:07:06.140 from my house
00:07:06.800 to this place
00:07:07.680 over and over again.
00:07:08.860 So,
00:07:08.980 if you follow my cell phone,
00:07:09.900 you're going to know
00:07:10.200 where I went,
00:07:11.000 right?
00:07:11.500 Yes.
00:07:12.620 Aggregated data
00:07:13.220 is a little bit different
00:07:14.000 in that you're just
00:07:14.480 seeing patterns of travel.
00:07:17.160 You know,
00:07:17.320 you can see,
00:07:18.380 if you see where,
00:07:19.660 you know,
00:07:19.980 where do people walk
00:07:20.940 on a walk path?
00:07:21.860 Where do they travel
00:07:22.900 on the weekends?
00:07:23.720 You can see traffic patterns
00:07:24.980 and things like that.
00:07:25.840 That's a little,
00:07:26.360 you know,
00:07:26.740 it's not quite as invasive
00:07:27.700 and it's something
00:07:28.460 that's been around
00:07:28.960 for a while,
00:07:29.580 but they have a lot
00:07:30.680 of access to it.
00:07:31.980 And getting aggregated data
00:07:33.020 can be useful,
00:07:33.800 but in this case,
00:07:35.100 there's like,
00:07:35.420 okay,
00:07:36.300 people were at spring break
00:07:37.260 and now they all went back
00:07:38.740 to all these places
00:07:39.440 and then you see
00:07:40.020 the breakout start
00:07:40.900 in those areas
00:07:41.560 because people were
00:07:42.240 hanging out,
00:07:42.880 you know,
00:07:43.380 shoulder to shoulder
00:07:44.160 on the beach.
00:07:45.380 Most people were making out
00:07:46.660 with 19 strangers
00:07:47.720 every day.
00:07:48.880 Yep.
00:07:48.920 that's the pattern
00:07:49.600 that I've heard
00:07:50.400 from spring break.
00:07:51.440 My spring breaks
00:07:52.000 were never like that,
00:07:52.840 but I'm sure,
00:07:54.140 I'm sure,
00:07:54.960 I'm sure people
00:07:55.960 who aren't losers
00:07:56.880 have those weekends
00:07:58.060 and,
00:07:58.960 you know,
00:07:59.620 you look at that
00:08:00.200 and you say,
00:08:00.860 well,
00:08:02.400 I can understand
00:08:03.260 them not wanting
00:08:03.960 it to be crazy.
00:08:06.060 You want to take,
00:08:06.620 most people are doing
00:08:07.320 this on their own.
00:08:08.480 You know,
00:08:09.160 you mentioned golf.
00:08:10.720 Well,
00:08:11.160 golf,
00:08:11.840 the PGA canceled
00:08:12.940 a bunch of tournaments
00:08:13.540 because the PGA
00:08:14.680 wanted to cancel
00:08:15.340 the tournaments.
00:08:15.960 They didn't feel
00:08:16.500 that they could guarantee
00:08:17.060 the safety of their players.
00:08:19.000 Or their fans.
00:08:20.600 So they canceled it.
00:08:21.760 The NBA felt the same way.
00:08:23.380 They said,
00:08:23.700 we can't guarantee
00:08:24.780 the safety of our fans
00:08:26.500 or our players.
00:08:27.800 We're not doing it.
00:08:28.980 You know,
00:08:29.140 Mark Cuban was on CNBC
00:08:30.200 the other day
00:08:30.620 and they said,
00:08:31.020 hey,
00:08:31.220 Mark,
00:08:31.600 when are the Mavs
00:08:32.120 coming back?
00:08:32.700 When is the NBA
00:08:33.320 coming back into action?
00:08:34.580 He said,
00:08:35.100 the Mavs will start
00:08:35.680 playing again
00:08:36.140 when I can guarantee
00:08:37.020 their safety.
00:08:39.020 It wasn't like
00:08:39.700 when the government
00:08:40.520 said it was okay
00:08:41.480 for them to play
00:08:42.260 or the NBA
00:08:43.280 started up again.
00:08:44.360 When I feel comfortable
00:08:45.580 that my players
00:08:46.320 will be safe,
00:08:47.160 then they can play.
00:08:48.940 Yeah.
00:08:49.240 Right?
00:08:49.520 That's the attitude
00:08:50.780 most Americans have.
00:08:52.020 And it's a good answer.
00:08:53.160 I mean,
00:08:53.660 that's a strong...
00:08:56.380 But I mean,
00:08:57.500 on the other hand,
00:08:58.120 you can never guarantee
00:08:59.460 anybody's safety.
00:09:01.000 He may not have used
00:09:01.760 the word guarantee.
00:09:02.500 He may have said,
00:09:03.600 believe that they're
00:09:04.580 going to be safe
00:09:05.060 or something like that.
00:09:05.640 But I think that
00:09:06.360 that's the kind of
00:09:08.380 false part
00:09:09.400 of the argument
00:09:09.980 that we've been having.
00:09:11.460 And it's not a very
00:09:12.160 American approach to it.
00:09:13.620 Not at all.
00:09:13.920 When we say,
00:09:14.580 oh, well,
00:09:15.320 are we going to
00:09:16.200 open up the economy
00:09:16.980 or are we going to
00:09:19.280 stay home
00:09:20.440 and protect
00:09:20.800 for the disease?
00:09:22.060 And it's like,
00:09:22.480 well,
00:09:22.920 the way we keep
00:09:23.660 talking about that is
00:09:24.740 will the government
00:09:25.680 allow us to come out
00:09:26.660 and work
00:09:27.040 or will the government
00:09:28.380 force us to stay home?
00:09:29.980 Yeah,
00:09:30.080 we've already ceded that
00:09:31.060 to the government
00:09:31.700 and what they're going
00:09:33.100 to allow.
00:09:33.740 And the argument,
00:09:34.600 too,
00:09:34.720 and it's like,
00:09:35.100 well,
00:09:35.200 when you look
00:09:35.780 at the data
00:09:36.260 around this,
00:09:37.940 you see that
00:09:38.680 people weren't going
00:09:40.240 to bars and restaurants
00:09:41.320 before they were closed
00:09:43.100 by the government.
00:09:44.700 Why?
00:09:45.300 Because people
00:09:45.960 didn't feel safe.
00:09:47.300 They didn't feel
00:09:48.000 like going there
00:09:48.700 was a good idea
00:09:49.840 so they didn't go.
00:09:51.280 The same thing
00:09:51.860 was happening,
00:09:52.520 you know,
00:09:53.300 with concerts
00:09:54.000 and large gatherings
00:09:54.940 and private events
00:09:56.520 that were being canceled.
00:09:57.740 People were nervous
00:09:58.720 about getting this
00:09:59.500 so they were like,
00:10:00.080 you know what,
00:10:00.300 I'm going to skip it
00:10:01.040 this time.
00:10:02.340 And the same thing
00:10:03.480 happens on the other
00:10:04.100 side of this,
00:10:04.540 I think.
00:10:05.920 We will wind up
00:10:07.200 being a country
00:10:09.200 with an open economy
00:10:10.000 again when people
00:10:11.620 believe they can go
00:10:13.000 to these places
00:10:13.540 without dying.
00:10:15.000 If you can make
00:10:15.980 people believe
00:10:16.760 they will not die
00:10:17.900 for the most simple
00:10:18.920 thing,
00:10:19.680 like going to church,
00:10:21.000 like going to a movie,
00:10:22.660 like going to a bar,
00:10:24.100 going to a restaurant,
00:10:25.520 then they'll come out.
00:10:27.340 That's the thing.
00:10:28.040 Government tells them
00:10:28.660 yes or no,
00:10:29.280 they're going to come out
00:10:30.180 in that you can't
00:10:30.880 keep people locked up
00:10:31.700 if they don't believe
00:10:32.400 they're at risk.
00:10:33.360 It's going to be
00:10:34.160 interesting this fall
00:10:36.140 when,
00:10:37.960 if things are opened
00:10:39.240 up again
00:10:39.740 and you can have fans
00:10:41.220 go back to,
00:10:42.180 say, football games,
00:10:43.440 how many are going
00:10:44.500 to go to football games?
00:10:46.160 How many are going
00:10:47.080 to feel comfortable
00:10:47.840 enough to go to a stadium
00:10:49.120 with 60,000 other people?
00:10:50.920 That will be
00:10:51.760 really fascinating
00:10:52.880 to watch
00:10:53.540 because I'm guessing
00:10:54.240 you're going to see
00:10:54.780 a lot of empty seats
00:10:56.180 at first,
00:10:57.220 at least.
00:10:57.780 Yeah.
00:10:58.040 Until people start
00:10:58.840 to feel comfortable again.
00:11:00.000 It's true.
00:11:00.280 It's going to take
00:11:00.620 some time.
00:11:01.180 That's true.
00:11:01.560 I know they started,
00:11:02.240 I think it's in Taiwan,
00:11:03.200 started their baseball league
00:11:04.060 the other day.
00:11:04.680 Oh, they did.
00:11:05.180 So I would say this,
00:11:05.980 you have Taiwanese
00:11:06.640 baseball to watch
00:11:07.400 if you want to get
00:11:08.420 into that.
00:11:08.980 Where could I find it?
00:11:09.920 I don't know.
00:11:10.620 I think we've got to find it.
00:11:11.400 ESPN 36.
00:11:13.420 It would be ESPN regular
00:11:14.840 right now.
00:11:15.560 They've got nothing else
00:11:16.140 to air.
00:11:16.280 That's for sure.
00:11:17.400 But they did it
00:11:18.540 with no fans.
00:11:19.480 They did have some
00:11:19.960 cardboard cutouts
00:11:20.840 of fans in the stands,
00:11:21.740 which is just kind of
00:11:22.320 a little weird,
00:11:24.100 but fun.
00:11:24.380 So I think that there's
00:11:27.160 a level there
00:11:28.280 that eventually
00:11:28.760 that happens.
00:11:29.180 I will tell you,
00:11:29.740 I decided the other day,
00:11:30.860 I was like,
00:11:31.100 you know what?
00:11:32.140 I'm going to go look
00:11:32.600 at my Super Bowl flight
00:11:33.440 because I go to the
00:11:34.740 Super Bowl every year.
00:11:36.160 I don't know if you
00:11:36.400 know this, Ben.
00:11:37.040 No, I hadn't heard.
00:11:37.800 You never mentioned it.
00:11:38.740 I've never mentioned it.
00:11:39.240 So it's strange.
00:11:40.100 So I go every year.
00:11:41.000 It's a tradition.
00:11:42.220 And I was like,
00:11:42.860 you know what?
00:11:43.620 What if the flight
00:11:44.240 is like $18?
00:11:46.000 It's worth the risk
00:11:47.040 to go.
00:11:47.880 Yeah.
00:11:48.200 It was not $18.
00:11:49.300 It was actually pretty
00:11:49.860 much normal price
00:11:50.720 for the flight,
00:11:51.220 which I was surprised at.
00:11:52.020 Although the strangest thing,
00:11:53.620 I've never seen this
00:11:54.840 in all my time
00:11:56.140 to travel,
00:11:56.780 going to websites,
00:11:57.660 going to all these sites
00:11:58.440 to try to find out
00:11:59.300 and get a flight.
00:12:00.460 I've never seen
00:12:01.160 this happen before.
00:12:02.500 The first class flight
00:12:04.120 was cheaper than coach.
00:12:06.500 It was cheaper.
00:12:08.260 Wow.
00:12:08.540 I've never really
00:12:09.580 seen it before
00:12:10.480 in my entire life.
00:12:12.100 I've never seen that.
00:12:13.380 Bizarre, right?
00:12:14.080 I must have been
00:12:15.000 some quirk.
00:12:15.840 I mean,
00:12:16.300 I will say this.
00:12:17.380 I got a first class flight
00:12:18.600 to the Super Bowl
00:12:19.560 and the first time
00:12:20.440 that's ever happened.
00:12:21.280 Did you already book it?
00:12:22.020 As of right now,
00:12:22.680 I'm the only person
00:12:23.480 on the flight
00:12:23.920 that I could find.
00:12:24.860 I bet you are.
00:12:25.980 But I was like,
00:12:26.640 you know what?
00:12:27.160 Let's lock this thing in now.
00:12:28.620 And where's the Super Bowl
00:12:29.420 next year?
00:12:30.500 Is it Tampa this year?
00:12:32.720 Oh, I think it might be Tampa.
00:12:34.020 I think it's Tampa this year.
00:12:34.600 So, yeah,
00:12:35.080 because, yeah,
00:12:35.800 that's right,
00:12:36.280 because Brady's going
00:12:36.960 to be playing in Tampa.
00:12:38.800 Oh, gosh.
00:12:39.320 And they're saying
00:12:39.980 that it could be
00:12:40.580 the first home team
00:12:41.360 to ever make it
00:12:42.000 to the Super Bowl.
00:12:42.540 Please don't.
00:12:43.200 Please, please.
00:12:43.900 I don't think I can handle it.
00:12:45.100 Irritating, wouldn't it?
00:12:45.620 But at least you got
00:12:46.180 a first class flight to Tampa.
00:12:47.560 Yeah, that's true.
00:12:48.380 There are worse problems to have.
00:12:50.600 Yes, there are.
00:12:51.440 It is.
00:12:51.920 It's an interesting thing.
00:12:52.740 And going through this
00:12:53.440 and watching it happen,
00:12:54.340 I mean, a lot of times
00:12:55.400 we should talk about this as well.
00:12:57.720 One of the things
00:12:58.260 that kind of is dismissed here
00:12:59.940 is people say,
00:13:01.100 well, look,
00:13:01.620 it's really only hitting
00:13:02.940 older, elderly people
00:13:04.720 and people
00:13:06.240 with pre-existing conditions
00:13:07.480 or chronic illness.
00:13:09.700 Right.
00:13:09.960 And, you know, look,
00:13:11.040 you know, that's sad
00:13:12.020 and we got to protect
00:13:12.560 those people,
00:13:13.260 but we need to open up
00:13:14.220 the economy.
00:13:14.640 But most people just dismiss it
00:13:16.180 because that's not me.
00:13:17.680 Right.
00:13:18.000 That is really what people
00:13:18.960 are doing.
00:13:19.420 That's not me.
00:13:20.120 Somebody else is going
00:13:20.840 to get sick and die.
00:13:21.580 I'm not going to.
00:13:22.400 That is the mechanism
00:13:23.200 behind the claim, isn't it?
00:13:24.320 Yes.
00:13:24.820 At some level,
00:13:25.540 that is what we're all
00:13:26.720 throwing out there
00:13:27.900 if you happen to be
00:13:28.580 one of the people
00:13:29.020 without the pre-existing conditions.
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00:14:08.960 So the New York Times
00:14:10.820 supposedly looked into
00:14:13.980 Joe Biden's sexual assault
00:14:15.680 of the woman back in 1993
00:14:18.960 that was on his staff.
00:14:21.300 And I mean,
00:14:21.860 it was pretty blatant.
00:14:23.740 When you listen to her story,
00:14:25.940 she sounded really believable,
00:14:29.060 I thought.
00:14:30.440 I certainly believed her.
00:14:31.880 Yeah, I mean,
00:14:33.980 it's tough, right?
00:14:36.120 Because it's an accusation
00:14:38.000 from 27 years ago.
00:14:39.980 27 years ago.
00:14:40.980 That's a problem.
00:14:41.840 Yeah.
00:14:42.080 And, you know,
00:14:42.860 again, I don't know
00:14:43.780 how you can litigate
00:14:45.920 those things 27 years later.
00:14:47.660 It's almost impossible.
00:14:48.640 Now, I know
00:14:49.180 there is one system
00:14:50.480 to do it,
00:14:51.100 which is the Kavanaugh model,
00:14:52.720 which is you just believe
00:14:53.840 anything the person says,
00:14:54.960 proof or not.
00:14:55.720 Right.
00:14:55.960 And say that it's unconscionable
00:14:59.260 for anyone to allow
00:15:01.000 a person like Brett Kavanaugh
00:15:02.480 to ever exist
00:15:03.280 in polite society again.
00:15:05.120 That's one model.
00:15:06.140 And it's the model
00:15:06.600 that the left has adopted
00:15:07.660 for every conservative
00:15:08.860 or Republican.
00:15:09.900 Until now,
00:15:10.900 at least.
00:15:11.680 Because people like,
00:15:12.720 I don't know,
00:15:13.200 Alyssa Milano were saying,
00:15:14.500 oh yeah,
00:15:14.820 women and Hillary Clinton,
00:15:16.740 women deserve to be believed.
00:15:18.580 Okay, well,
00:15:19.640 do men not deserve due process?
00:15:22.380 Because they're being accused
00:15:23.460 of something pretty serious here.
00:15:24.760 Should at least go through
00:15:25.680 the process.
00:15:26.580 Yeah.
00:15:26.940 Right.
00:15:27.700 And that wasn't the case
00:15:28.860 with Brett Kavanaugh.
00:15:30.180 But now,
00:15:30.940 all of a sudden,
00:15:31.540 oh yeah,
00:15:31.900 wait,
00:15:32.300 wait,
00:15:32.600 wait,
00:15:32.820 wait.
00:15:33.540 I mean,
00:15:33.880 you should take them seriously,
00:15:35.060 but you don't believe
00:15:35.840 them automatically.
00:15:36.780 Yeah,
00:15:36.960 that was the Alyssa Milano line.
00:15:38.420 Right.
00:15:38.620 I love that,
00:15:39.400 because it's,
00:15:40.220 what you're arguing for
00:15:41.340 is the conservative standard.
00:15:43.060 Yes.
00:15:43.340 What we're saying is,
00:15:44.680 when someone,
00:15:45.740 a woman says she's been abused,
00:15:47.260 you take that claim seriously,
00:15:49.660 you encourage it,
00:15:50.960 and this is very important,
00:15:52.140 important part of this,
00:15:53.120 you encourage it to come out
00:15:54.800 as soon afterward as possible,
00:15:57.060 ideally with authorities,
00:15:58.360 not through the media,
00:15:59.600 and you go through the evidence
00:16:01.200 and try to understand
00:16:02.000 what happened,
00:16:03.060 and if someone is guilty
00:16:05.220 after a due process situation,
00:16:08.260 then you're very excited
00:16:09.860 to throw them in prison
00:16:10.680 for as long as possible.
00:16:12.160 That's what conservatives
00:16:13.460 have always been asking for.
00:16:14.660 It's what we,
00:16:15.080 the standard we wanted
00:16:15.720 for Brett Kavanaugh,
00:16:16.740 right?
00:16:17.260 Yes.
00:16:17.520 There's no one that I knew of
00:16:18.500 that was like,
00:16:18.960 gosh,
00:16:19.320 I mean,
00:16:20.860 Brett probably did this,
00:16:21.960 but you know,
00:16:22.620 look,
00:16:23.440 I hope he gets away with it,
00:16:24.520 because he's going to be
00:16:25.160 a good vote of the Supreme Court.
00:16:26.460 I know no one
00:16:27.160 who thought that way.
00:16:28.300 There's tons of Supreme Court justices,
00:16:30.180 frankly,
00:16:30.660 others that I would have picked
00:16:31.580 besides Brett Kavanaugh,
00:16:33.580 just because of his voting record,
00:16:35.420 nothing to do with his
00:16:36.120 high school drinking habits,
00:16:39.120 but like,
00:16:39.800 it was unfair.
00:16:40.600 He was obviously qualified
00:16:41.720 for the job,
00:16:42.500 and you can't give in
00:16:43.940 to the left
00:16:45.720 and the media
00:16:46.460 dogpiling on Brett Kavanaugh
00:16:48.740 without any evidence.
00:16:50.960 Right.
00:16:51.260 There's much,
00:16:53.140 seriously,
00:16:54.040 much,
00:16:54.620 much more evidence
00:16:55.520 that Joe Biden did this
00:16:56.820 than Brett Kavanaugh
00:16:57.840 did what he was accused of.
00:16:59.000 Oh, yeah.
00:16:59.380 It's not even remotely close.
00:17:01.840 She actually told
00:17:03.480 one of her friends
00:17:04.900 at the time in 1993
00:17:06.860 that this occurred.
00:17:07.880 She also told her mom,
00:17:11.240 which we can't quantify
00:17:13.440 because her mom
00:17:14.480 is no longer with us,
00:17:16.500 but,
00:17:16.760 so we can even throw that one away,
00:17:18.580 but told two other people as well,
00:17:20.600 one in 2008
00:17:21.900 and another back,
00:17:23.060 I think,
00:17:23.380 at the time.
00:17:24.500 So you have...
00:17:25.640 And they've all corroborated.
00:17:26.780 Yeah,
00:17:26.980 they've all corroborated.
00:17:27.660 Yeah,
00:17:27.820 no one said,
00:17:28.580 unlike,
00:17:29.460 you know,
00:17:29.580 for example,
00:17:29.960 one of the Michael Avenatti
00:17:30.940 accusers who said,
00:17:32.380 you know who might know
00:17:32.960 is this person
00:17:33.960 and then they asked this person
00:17:35.520 and they're like,
00:17:36.020 actually,
00:17:36.360 I don't know who you're talking about.
00:17:37.320 Who's this?
00:17:37.860 I don't know the name
00:17:38.540 you're referring to.
00:17:39.600 Didn't even...
00:17:40.240 Not only did she not know
00:17:41.000 about the incident,
00:17:41.720 but didn't know about
00:17:42.880 the actual person
00:17:44.400 who was making the accusation.
00:17:46.840 It wasn't like that.
00:17:47.940 This is one where she
00:17:48.800 seemingly is backed up by,
00:17:51.980 as they would call it,
00:17:53.060 contemporaneous testimony.
00:17:56.640 Yeah.
00:17:56.880 And it is a situation
00:17:59.200 where if this was a Republican,
00:18:02.680 it would be rock solid 100% proof
00:18:06.160 that they did this.
00:18:07.640 That is absolutely true.
00:18:10.840 If this,
00:18:11.840 if Joe Biden was a Republican,
00:18:13.920 the media would be handling this
00:18:15.600 completely differently
00:18:17.260 and assuming guilt at every level.
00:18:20.400 No doubt about it.
00:18:21.160 So it's important to note,
00:18:21.960 it's not just some flimsy,
00:18:23.860 wild-eyed accusation.
00:18:26.440 But that being said,
00:18:27.520 even though I don't want
00:18:28.360 Joe Biden to be president,
00:18:29.520 he deserves due process.
00:18:30.940 He deserves a presumption
00:18:32.820 of innocence.
00:18:34.200 Mm-hmm.
00:18:35.120 And the fact that you come out
00:18:37.080 27 years later
00:18:39.740 and say something occurred
00:18:42.360 that there is no way
00:18:44.720 to show any evidence of,
00:18:46.380 that is to me
00:18:47.960 not enough
00:18:48.960 to destroy a person's life,
00:18:50.640 a person's career,
00:18:51.600 a person's political aspirations.
00:18:53.520 And it's particularly suspicious
00:18:55.100 when it's against
00:18:56.380 a powerful figure.
00:18:57.740 Mm-hmm.
00:18:59.120 You know,
00:18:59.500 this guy's running
00:19:00.380 for president right now.
00:19:01.620 He's the Democratic nominee
00:19:02.620 for president.
00:19:03.840 And of course,
00:19:04.660 you have to have
00:19:05.260 some level of suspicion
00:19:06.360 as to whether it's true.
00:19:08.260 And the media
00:19:09.320 would not allow for that
00:19:10.060 during Kavanaugh.
00:19:11.200 Why would,
00:19:11.740 why would,
00:19:12.440 Joe Biden would not allow for it.
00:19:14.020 His quote was like,
00:19:15.280 any woman who would stand up
00:19:16.980 in the fire of the public eye
00:19:19.620 deserves to be,
00:19:21.260 the assumption needs to be
00:19:22.620 that the essence
00:19:23.280 of their story is correct.
00:19:25.080 Right.
00:19:25.780 Not now.
00:19:26.540 Not now.
00:19:27.420 Not now.
00:19:27.760 Not according to his campaign.
00:19:29.340 No,
00:19:29.960 Joe categorically denies
00:19:32.240 that this happened.
00:19:33.200 Well,
00:19:33.320 Joe has never,
00:19:34.480 he's not addressed it.
00:19:36.100 And it's fascinating to me
00:19:37.300 that nobody asks him about it.
00:19:38.960 Thank you.
00:19:39.700 Nobody asks him.
00:19:40.520 Because I was listening to,
00:19:41.480 the New York Times
00:19:42.040 did a big story on this.
00:19:43.360 Finally.
00:19:44.000 It took 20 days,
00:19:46.040 something like that.
00:19:46.780 Mm-hmm.
00:19:47.280 From the accusation.
00:19:48.260 They decided to finally
00:19:48.940 follow up on it
00:19:49.620 and understand it.
00:19:50.280 Which is interesting
00:19:50.860 because if it was made
00:19:51.940 against a Republican day one,
00:19:53.140 there's a new story about it.
00:19:54.180 the next day.
00:19:55.400 Just outlining the allegations
00:19:56.600 without question.
00:19:58.240 And at the very end,
00:19:59.320 there'd be like,
00:19:59.800 the Trump administration
00:20:00.680 denied the claims.
00:20:01.880 Right?
00:20:01.980 Like,
00:20:02.160 that's all you'd get
00:20:03.060 from the other side.
00:20:03.820 It would just be,
00:20:04.240 and it would be
00:20:05.060 a cinematic telling of it.
00:20:07.760 You know,
00:20:08.240 she walked into the dark room
00:20:10.040 with a fire burning
00:20:11.140 into the corner.
00:20:12.020 Yes.
00:20:12.120 The cold steel of the table.
00:20:13.860 You would have had the whole,
00:20:15.620 it would have felt like a movie.
00:20:17.360 Mm-hmm.
00:20:17.560 You would have been able
00:20:18.180 to picture yourself there
00:20:19.400 and you would have pictured
00:20:20.160 Donald Trump doing this
00:20:21.140 to this woman.
00:20:22.080 Instead,
00:20:22.840 it's a police blotter
00:20:24.640 of an article.
00:20:25.700 Yep.
00:20:26.080 She claims this.
00:20:26.860 She claims this.
00:20:27.540 She claims this.
00:20:28.180 They claim this.
00:20:28.860 They claim this.
00:20:29.420 It's like,
00:20:29.700 it's nothing.
00:20:30.260 It's just,
00:20:30.580 it's not even a story.
00:20:31.320 It's just like a bunch
00:20:32.120 of claims
00:20:32.580 and the fact
00:20:34.740 that people
00:20:35.680 who currently work
00:20:37.400 for Joe Biden
00:20:38.260 or people who worked
00:20:39.560 for Joe Biden
00:20:40.280 back in the day
00:20:41.120 say they don't remember
00:20:42.300 anything like it.
00:20:43.220 They can't,
00:20:43.580 of course,
00:20:43.800 disprove it,
00:20:44.900 but they don't remember
00:20:46.500 anything like it.
00:20:46.820 But there's no pattern
00:20:47.860 of sexual assault
00:20:49.520 in Joe Biden's past.
00:20:51.980 I love this.
00:20:52.620 And then at the very end,
00:20:54.200 they outline the pattern
00:20:55.640 of Joe Biden's sexual assault
00:20:57.920 with people,
00:20:59.480 with women
00:21:00.220 who have been,
00:21:00.880 you know,
00:21:01.700 uncomfortable
00:21:02.280 and who have made claims
00:21:04.960 that he did sexually
00:21:08.980 assault them in some way.
00:21:10.580 Right.
00:21:11.100 Whether through a kiss
00:21:12.240 that was unwanted
00:21:13.160 or touching that's unwanted.
00:21:15.200 Here's the initial tweet
00:21:16.160 and this is also
00:21:17.660 in the story.
00:21:18.720 You should know initially
00:21:19.880 and then was changed.
00:21:20.880 Here's what they said.
00:21:21.580 No other allegation
00:21:22.360 about a sexual assault
00:21:23.220 surfaced in the course
00:21:24.100 of our reporting
00:21:24.680 nor did any former
00:21:25.800 Biden staff corroborate
00:21:26.960 Reid's allegation.
00:21:28.140 We found no pattern
00:21:29.160 of sexual misconduct
00:21:30.100 by Biden
00:21:30.800 beyond hugs,
00:21:32.840 kisses and touching
00:21:33.640 that women previously said.
00:21:35.720 Beyond the pattern
00:21:36.420 that we've found.
00:21:38.060 Right.
00:21:38.460 And that's an issue
00:21:39.020 with patterns.
00:21:40.060 You can't throw out
00:21:41.200 all previous evidence
00:21:42.420 and ever have a pattern.
00:21:43.600 Right.
00:21:43.960 Right.
00:21:44.140 A pattern is something
00:21:44.920 that is repeated.
00:21:45.560 So if you throw out
00:21:46.660 all the other examples
00:21:47.840 you have of it,
00:21:49.200 nothing can be a pattern.
00:21:50.820 Yes.
00:21:51.420 This is what they had.
00:21:52.860 Obviously,
00:21:53.300 there is an issue
00:21:54.240 that Joe has
00:21:55.020 with being a little handsy.
00:21:56.920 Yeah.
00:21:57.400 It's been joked about
00:21:58.260 for a very long time.
00:21:59.520 And we've seen the pattern
00:22:00.480 repeat itself
00:22:01.200 over and over and over again.
00:22:02.540 It is a pattern.
00:22:03.680 Bike women
00:22:04.420 sitting on his lap
00:22:05.860 in a bar.
00:22:06.740 I mean,
00:22:07.020 there's all kinds of
00:22:08.000 the Senate
00:22:09.680 greeting thing
00:22:11.320 that he does
00:22:12.020 with the new senators
00:22:13.040 and congressmen
00:22:14.600 that come in
00:22:15.500 and he eats
00:22:15.940 all over their families
00:22:17.040 and stuff.
00:22:17.820 It's weird.
00:22:18.500 Yeah.
00:22:18.800 It's been weird.
00:22:19.640 And it was a jokey thing
00:22:21.180 for a very long time
00:22:22.240 among conservatives
00:22:23.100 and Republicans
00:22:24.160 who just know
00:22:24.940 it was weird.
00:22:26.060 Yes.
00:22:26.440 It changed into something else
00:22:27.600 when seven individual women
00:22:28.940 came out and said,
00:22:29.760 it really made us
00:22:30.480 feel uncomfortable.
00:22:31.200 Like,
00:22:31.720 it wasn't a joke to them.
00:22:33.140 They really didn't like it.
00:22:34.380 Yeah.
00:22:34.600 And especially this one person
00:22:36.220 who was on the staff.
00:22:37.140 And she was one of the seven.
00:22:38.200 Yeah.
00:22:38.440 Yeah.
00:22:38.760 So the New York Times
00:22:39.440 talked to her
00:22:40.380 back when they were doing
00:22:41.160 this initial story
00:22:42.020 and they seemed to claim
00:22:43.420 that she brought up
00:22:45.240 additional things
00:22:46.500 other than
00:22:48.140 just a little hair sniffing
00:22:50.340 and,
00:22:51.120 you know,
00:22:51.920 uncomfortable touching.
00:22:53.460 But because they couldn't
00:22:54.760 get any corroboration,
00:22:55.680 they didn't put it
00:22:56.260 in the story.
00:22:57.040 Well,
00:22:57.500 here we are,
00:22:58.300 you know.
00:22:59.280 Wow.
00:22:59.600 What a difference
00:23:00.400 from Kavanaugh.
00:23:01.280 Oh,
00:23:01.420 yeah.
00:23:01.920 They had no corroboration
00:23:03.620 at all
00:23:04.480 and put it in the stories
00:23:05.820 anyway.
00:23:06.300 Yeah.
00:23:06.440 Remember with Kavanaugh,
00:23:07.600 not only did we
00:23:08.300 not have the time
00:23:09.860 it happened.
00:23:10.340 We didn't even have
00:23:11.020 the location it happened.
00:23:12.760 Right.
00:23:13.080 And if my memory serves me,
00:23:14.200 I don't know that we ever
00:23:15.180 had any information
00:23:15.860 that they ever met.
00:23:17.700 Do we ever know
00:23:18.520 that Kavanaugh
00:23:19.520 and Blasey Ford
00:23:20.800 met when they were
00:23:21.860 in high school?
00:23:22.620 I don't think so.
00:23:23.260 I don't remember.
00:23:24.320 I mean,
00:23:24.640 it's possible
00:23:25.180 I'm forgetting details there,
00:23:26.720 but I don't remember
00:23:27.600 that being the case.
00:23:28.860 So there's much
00:23:29.880 more information here.
00:23:31.360 The Times was asked
00:23:32.600 and actually
00:23:33.440 gives some credit
00:23:34.500 to Ben Smith,
00:23:36.260 who he used to be
00:23:37.260 the guy who ran BuzzFeed.
00:23:38.460 He's over at the New York
00:23:39.080 Times now.
00:23:39.920 He did an interview
00:23:41.340 basically with the Times,
00:23:43.660 asking the Times,
00:23:44.620 his own employer,
00:23:46.120 what the hell happened
00:23:47.140 here exactly?
00:23:49.300 You know,
00:23:49.720 his first question was,
00:23:51.060 Tara Reid may hear
00:23:51.640 allegation on March 25th.
00:23:53.960 Why not cover it then
00:23:54.900 as breaking news?
00:23:56.980 That is an interesting one
00:23:57.880 because you don't have to have
00:23:59.020 a full investigation done
00:24:00.480 the day she makes
00:24:01.100 the investigation,
00:24:02.020 but you don't even report
00:24:02.780 on it?
00:24:03.300 Right.
00:24:03.660 No passing story.
00:24:07.000 And listen to this answer
00:24:08.260 by,
00:24:08.660 this is the,
00:24:10.680 what's this actual
00:24:11.460 position here?
00:24:14.360 The executive editor
00:24:15.480 of the Times.
00:24:16.420 This is his answer.
00:24:17.580 Lots of people covered
00:24:18.520 it as breaking news
00:24:19.300 at the time.
00:24:20.480 First of all,
00:24:21.020 come on,
00:24:21.360 what?
00:24:21.620 Right wing blogs?
00:24:23.080 Right?
00:24:23.260 Like there were not
00:24:23.960 a lot of people
00:24:24.620 who covered it that way
00:24:25.540 in the mainstream media.
00:24:26.840 It says lots of people
00:24:27.420 covered it as breaking news
00:24:28.180 at the time.
00:24:28.620 Plus aren't you
00:24:29.120 the paper of record?
00:24:30.000 Right.
00:24:30.140 Wouldn't you want to
00:24:31.260 be part of that
00:24:32.340 breaking news?
00:24:33.180 Of course.
00:24:33.960 Right?
00:24:34.240 You'd think.
00:24:35.740 Lots of people covered
00:24:36.640 it as breaking news
00:24:37.280 at the time.
00:24:37.840 And I just thought
00:24:38.800 nobody other than
00:24:39.780 the intercept
00:24:40.380 was actually doing
00:24:41.560 the reporting
00:24:42.120 to help people
00:24:42.720 figure out
00:24:43.140 what to make of it.
00:24:44.020 My gosh.
00:24:44.540 So the New York Times
00:24:45.320 is now ceding
00:24:46.060 its authority
00:24:46.680 to the intercept
00:24:47.600 to say,
00:24:49.380 oh, well,
00:24:49.800 look,
00:24:50.120 the intercept had it
00:24:51.280 so we didn't need
00:24:51.780 to do anything on it.
00:24:52.760 I don't even know
00:24:53.680 what the intercept is.
00:24:55.600 I think it's
00:24:56.500 Glenn Greenwald's
00:24:57.560 thing.
00:24:58.800 Oh, okay.
00:24:59.280 And like,
00:24:59.760 you know,
00:25:00.200 again,
00:25:01.040 no knock on the
00:25:02.000 intercept,
00:25:02.560 right?
00:25:02.820 I mean,
00:25:03.020 it's just not
00:25:03.900 but like what they
00:25:04.440 say,
00:25:04.640 you know what?
00:25:04.960 Look,
00:25:05.200 we just did.
00:25:05.880 We saw the blazes
00:25:07.000 covering it
00:25:07.680 and we were just
00:25:08.720 like,
00:25:08.920 ah,
00:25:09.220 the blazes got it.
00:25:10.180 Just let them
00:25:10.840 have this one.
00:25:11.760 Like,
00:25:11.940 that's not what
00:25:12.520 you do in the
00:25:13.220 news business.
00:25:13.880 No,
00:25:14.020 it is not.
00:25:14.340 Everyone writes
00:25:15.000 about the same
00:25:15.540 stories every day,
00:25:16.640 just like the New York
00:25:17.740 Times does every day.
00:25:19.400 Then the other
00:25:20.280 admission that they've
00:25:21.720 made is absolutely
00:25:23.940 staggering.
00:25:25.300 Stunning.
00:25:25.900 We'll tell you
00:25:26.560 about that in 60
00:25:27.900 seconds.
00:25:28.360 It's unbelievable.
00:25:30.180 This one is
00:25:30.840 incredible,
00:25:31.220 actually.
00:25:32.240 Because it's just
00:25:32.640 the fact,
00:25:32.880 it's not the fact
00:25:33.280 that it happened,
00:25:33.800 it's just the fact
00:25:34.200 that they're
00:25:34.500 actually admitting
00:25:35.380 it.
00:25:35.780 Yeah.
00:25:36.380 It's crazy.
00:25:37.540 Amazing.
00:25:37.820 This is the best of
00:25:43.520 the Glenn Beck
00:25:43.940 program and don't
00:25:44.780 forget,
00:25:45.480 rate us on
00:25:46.400 iTunes.
00:25:53.700 It's Pat and Stu
00:25:54.600 in for Glenn who
00:25:55.860 is out sick today.
00:25:57.380 He claims not
00:25:59.000 from COVID-19.
00:26:00.300 That was his claim
00:26:01.240 in the email this
00:26:02.080 morning.
00:26:02.660 He said,
00:26:03.560 I'm not going to be
00:26:04.400 in,
00:26:04.620 not feeling well,
00:26:05.360 and then in all
00:26:06.080 capital letters,
00:26:06.780 it's not coronavirus.
00:26:08.580 Has he been tested?
00:26:09.460 How does he know?
00:26:09.920 I don't know.
00:26:10.320 How does he know?
00:26:10.940 This is exactly how
00:26:11.640 it starts.
00:26:12.180 Someone claims they
00:26:12.940 don't have it and
00:26:13.580 then it starts
00:26:13.960 spreading all over
00:26:14.480 the place.
00:26:15.720 He's basically a
00:26:18.120 horseshoe bat in
00:26:19.000 Wuhan is how I think
00:26:20.220 of Glenn right now.
00:26:21.420 He's just,
00:26:22.140 he's patient zero.
00:26:23.380 So stay at home.
00:26:24.640 Do not come in for
00:26:25.380 any reason.
00:26:26.680 Glenn,
00:26:27.300 hopefully we'll be
00:26:27.860 back on the air
00:26:28.580 tomorrow from a safe
00:26:30.980 distance from you and
00:26:32.940 and his microphone.
00:26:34.860 Jeremy Dice is with
00:26:36.440 us.
00:26:36.820 Jeremy is a special
00:26:37.780 counsel at First
00:26:38.360 Liberty Institute and
00:26:40.380 also a well-known
00:26:42.500 Ernest goes to camp
00:26:43.800 aficionado.
00:26:45.240 He is on the
00:26:46.220 program with us now.
00:26:48.040 This is not the
00:26:48.660 first thing that you
00:26:49.840 mentioned because
00:26:50.540 that's,
00:26:51.060 that's the bigger
00:26:52.180 issue right there.
00:26:53.080 It is.
00:26:53.700 We could spend the
00:26:54.460 whole segment on any
00:26:55.460 variation of Ernest
00:26:56.760 movies if you,
00:26:57.520 if you prefer,
00:26:58.280 Jeremy.
00:26:59.260 No,
00:26:59.480 there's only three to
00:27:00.260 discuss,
00:27:00.760 of course,
00:27:01.240 but I'm glad to be
00:27:02.920 known for my,
00:27:03.980 my,
00:27:04.300 my profound knowledge
00:27:05.420 of pop culture in
00:27:06.220 this regard,
00:27:06.680 but let's get on to
00:27:07.480 things that I may
00:27:08.380 want to be more
00:27:08.960 respected for.
00:27:10.180 It's possible.
00:27:11.280 There is some pretty
00:27:12.960 obviously serious
00:27:13.920 stuff going on right
00:27:14.760 now outside of just
00:27:16.400 what we're dealing
00:27:17.160 with,
00:27:17.360 with the,
00:27:17.960 with the virus
00:27:18.680 itself.
00:27:19.400 There is an
00:27:20.740 instinct by a lot
00:27:22.300 of people who have
00:27:24.440 a new grip on
00:27:26.040 power and,
00:27:26.940 and seemingly no,
00:27:28.680 nothing's stopping
00:27:29.580 them from wielding
00:27:30.260 it.
00:27:30.900 And what we're
00:27:31.740 seeing now in the
00:27:32.780 world of faith and
00:27:34.580 the restrictions
00:27:35.280 from people
00:27:36.480 worshiping,
00:27:37.660 even when it
00:27:38.200 comes to driving
00:27:39.480 their car and
00:27:40.140 doing a car-based
00:27:41.080 service,
00:27:41.840 we're seeing
00:27:42.300 restrictions on
00:27:42.880 that.
00:27:43.340 And it's something
00:27:44.260 I know you're
00:27:44.900 following very
00:27:45.580 closely.
00:27:47.520 We are.
00:27:48.120 And I think you
00:27:48.900 framed this exactly
00:27:49.920 right,
00:27:50.520 that there is,
00:27:51.820 look,
00:27:52.140 I think all
00:27:52.800 Americans understood
00:27:53.960 the need to kind
00:27:55.000 of pump the brakes
00:27:55.740 for a second
00:27:56.280 during this pandemic
00:27:57.700 and,
00:27:58.360 and begin to,
00:27:59.340 to figure out,
00:28:00.320 okay,
00:28:00.360 what's the lie of
00:28:00.840 the land,
00:28:01.200 what we've got to
00:28:01.580 do here to make
00:28:02.160 sure this stops.
00:28:02.920 Why?
00:28:03.240 Because Americans
00:28:04.420 are very tolerant
00:28:05.220 people,
00:28:05.720 and not only that,
00:28:06.280 they're very loving
00:28:06.800 people.
00:28:07.100 They want to make
00:28:07.600 sure their fellow
00:28:08.180 man is safe and
00:28:09.120 their neighbor is
00:28:09.680 well-loved.
00:28:10.700 And so,
00:28:11.100 yes,
00:28:11.260 they're willing to
00:28:12.100 slam the brakes
00:28:13.020 in some respects to
00:28:13.960 make sure that
00:28:14.520 everybody is safe.
00:28:15.760 But when you give,
00:28:17.780 and this is just a
00:28:18.500 lesson of history,
00:28:19.060 when you give a
00:28:20.600 little bit of power
00:28:21.260 back to a central
00:28:22.080 form of government,
00:28:22.940 that becomes a
00:28:24.740 little bit more
00:28:25.360 than a little
00:28:26.440 after a little
00:28:27.240 while here.
00:28:27.720 And so,
00:28:28.760 you've got
00:28:29.300 municipalities around
00:28:30.380 the country,
00:28:30.980 and don't forget
00:28:31.420 there's some 40,000
00:28:32.400 or more of these
00:28:33.320 municipalities around
00:28:34.120 the country,
00:28:34.640 cities or counties
00:28:35.320 or what have you,
00:28:36.680 that are then
00:28:37.740 abued with more
00:28:38.440 power to try to be,
00:28:40.140 you know,
00:28:40.960 demonstrating a little
00:28:42.220 bit more authority
00:28:42.820 than the last guy.
00:28:44.280 And so it comes down
00:28:45.260 to people like the
00:28:46.080 mayor of Greenville,
00:28:47.080 Mississippi,
00:28:47.760 where he's put
00:28:49.540 in an order there
00:28:50.200 that says that
00:28:51.000 churches cannot meet
00:28:52.360 even with a drive-in
00:28:53.580 service.
00:28:54.160 And why?
00:28:54.820 Well, he said
00:28:55.240 yesterday at a
00:28:55.860 press conference
00:28:56.540 reaffirming his
00:28:57.740 commitment to this
00:28:58.420 unconstitutional order
00:28:59.600 that, well,
00:29:00.960 people are too
00:29:01.620 friendly.
00:29:02.300 They get out of
00:29:03.260 the car and
00:29:03.800 they're going to
00:29:04.100 talk to each other.
00:29:04.900 Specifically,
00:29:05.460 Christians are too
00:29:06.360 friendly and they
00:29:07.000 can't stay in their
00:29:08.060 cars.
00:29:09.060 Well, this is a
00:29:09.720 real problem if
00:29:10.660 you're parked in
00:29:11.620 your car.
00:29:12.200 Number one,
00:29:12.640 I don't think
00:29:13.060 we've known that
00:29:14.300 the virus can
00:29:15.260 actually travel
00:29:15.920 through glass
00:29:17.100 and steel yet.
00:29:19.180 But they've
00:29:20.460 specifically targeted
00:29:21.400 cars parked at
00:29:22.540 church parking lots,
00:29:23.760 not at the
00:29:24.200 Sonic drive-in,
00:29:25.380 not at the
00:29:25.920 Walmart parking lot,
00:29:26.820 not at the
00:29:27.160 liquor store,
00:29:28.120 but specifically
00:29:28.980 churches.
00:29:29.700 And on top of
00:29:30.380 all that,
00:29:31.020 last Thursday
00:29:31.980 when our client
00:29:32.900 in Greenville
00:29:33.940 went to have
00:29:34.520 his drive-in
00:29:35.300 services on
00:29:36.000 Thursday evening,
00:29:37.300 the entire
00:29:38.020 shift of the
00:29:38.920 police force
00:29:39.560 for Greenville,
00:29:40.620 Mississippi,
00:29:41.900 showed up.
00:29:43.860 That's concerning
00:29:44.940 to me.
00:29:45.400 I mean,
00:29:45.560 when all the
00:29:46.400 police officers
00:29:47.060 that are on
00:29:47.620 duty that
00:29:48.120 shift show up
00:29:49.000 to a church
00:29:50.020 to possibly
00:29:51.240 ticket every
00:29:52.000 individual in
00:29:52.740 those cars,
00:29:53.360 $500 for
00:29:54.340 daring to
00:29:54.960 drive from
00:29:55.500 their home
00:29:55.980 with the
00:29:56.720 windows up,
00:29:57.680 park in a
00:29:58.240 church parking
00:29:58.880 lot to hear
00:29:59.560 their pastor
00:30:00.100 preach through
00:30:00.720 the open air,
00:30:02.360 $500 per person?
00:30:04.360 Is this America
00:30:05.260 anymore?
00:30:06.000 This is the kind
00:30:06.840 of thing that
00:30:07.260 has to be put
00:30:08.920 up with,
00:30:09.400 cannot be put
00:30:09.960 up with.
00:30:10.500 We're willing
00:30:11.220 to put up
00:30:11.680 with reasonable
00:30:12.180 restrictions for
00:30:13.040 a temporary
00:30:13.660 period of time.
00:30:14.720 This is not
00:30:15.280 reasonable,
00:30:16.280 nor is it
00:30:17.100 equally applied.
00:30:18.000 When you can
00:30:18.520 park at a liquor
00:30:19.160 store, but not
00:30:20.140 at the church
00:30:20.520 parking lot,
00:30:21.540 that is clear
00:30:22.480 evidence of
00:30:23.080 discrimination.
00:30:24.500 It really is
00:30:24.880 crazy.
00:30:25.700 I think there
00:30:27.120 is an aspect
00:30:27.840 of this where
00:30:28.820 the American
00:30:29.940 people can
00:30:30.420 understand.
00:30:31.280 Most churches,
00:30:32.040 I think,
00:30:32.260 are saying,
00:30:32.920 look, watch
00:30:34.280 us online for
00:30:34.980 a few weeks,
00:30:35.600 and it's okay.
00:30:37.300 I think most
00:30:38.200 people are
00:30:38.840 choosing to
00:30:39.700 do this.
00:30:40.980 They're trying
00:30:41.760 to practice
00:30:42.100 as safely as
00:30:43.000 possible.
00:30:44.120 To me,
00:30:44.640 it makes me
00:30:45.140 nervous if
00:30:45.880 there's any
00:30:46.380 restriction from
00:30:47.120 government on
00:30:48.020 worship at
00:30:48.800 all.
00:30:49.140 I know that
00:30:49.500 if they came
00:30:50.080 and they
00:30:50.360 said,
00:30:50.640 look, we're
00:30:51.360 not going
00:30:51.660 to allow
00:30:52.220 you to buy
00:30:53.240 guns during
00:30:54.080 this period,
00:30:54.540 I would have
00:30:55.000 a huge problem
00:30:55.620 with it.
00:30:56.200 Just because
00:30:56.980 Christians are
00:30:58.020 sort of, as
00:30:59.140 you point out,
00:30:59.760 nice people and
00:31:00.440 want to do the
00:31:00.840 best things for
00:31:01.480 everybody else,
00:31:02.480 that doesn't
00:31:02.860 necessarily, it
00:31:05.200 doesn't make it
00:31:05.720 okay for them to
00:31:06.440 be restricting
00:31:06.880 this in any way.
00:31:07.920 What is the
00:31:08.400 traditional role
00:31:10.200 here in this
00:31:10.860 type of situation
00:31:11.960 for the state
00:31:14.700 to be able to
00:31:15.860 intercede this
00:31:16.620 way?
00:31:16.980 Do they have
00:31:17.540 any right to
00:31:18.200 do any of
00:31:18.780 this stuff?
00:31:20.320 Certainly, the
00:31:21.300 state does have
00:31:22.300 a compelling
00:31:22.700 justification here,
00:31:23.720 right?
00:31:23.920 That's what's
00:31:24.420 necessary for
00:31:25.180 the state to
00:31:25.800 enforce or to
00:31:26.980 put on hold
00:31:28.500 our First
00:31:29.300 Amendment rights
00:31:30.000 or any of our
00:31:30.500 constitutional rights
00:31:31.120 for that matter.
00:31:32.200 A worldwide
00:31:33.080 pandemic is
00:31:34.360 going to almost
00:31:34.960 always be upheld
00:31:36.200 in any court
00:31:37.400 there is around
00:31:37.820 the country,
00:31:38.380 but that
00:31:38.800 justification has
00:31:41.040 to be met
00:31:41.460 very narrowly and
00:31:42.740 very equally
00:31:43.360 applied.
00:31:43.940 In other words,
00:31:44.880 if there are
00:31:45.760 lesser ways to be
00:31:46.580 able to control
00:31:47.040 the pandemic,
00:31:47.840 the government
00:31:48.240 has to follow
00:31:49.100 those.
00:31:49.840 But on top
00:31:50.380 of all that,
00:31:50.980 and much more
00:31:51.740 basically, it
00:31:53.040 can't say,
00:31:53.580 well, look,
00:31:54.000 cars parked at
00:31:54.760 a liquor store
00:31:55.520 are fine, but
00:31:56.800 church parking
00:31:57.380 lots are wrong.
00:31:58.940 You know, we
00:31:59.380 had the same
00:31:59.920 issue in
00:32:00.440 Louisville,
00:32:00.900 Kentucky last
00:32:01.620 week, and we
00:32:02.820 filed a lawsuit
00:32:03.540 last Friday, and
00:32:04.740 overnight, the
00:32:05.840 judge there,
00:32:06.360 Judge Walker,
00:32:07.360 turned out a
00:32:08.140 really fabulous
00:32:08.880 opinion to
00:32:09.580 remind everybody
00:32:10.300 of how
00:32:10.960 overreaching the
00:32:12.020 city of Louisville
00:32:12.600 have become,
00:32:13.180 and put a
00:32:14.200 temporary restraining
00:32:14.940 order against
00:32:15.460 it.
00:32:15.640 In fact, we're
00:32:15.920 going to have a
00:32:16.200 hearing in a few
00:32:16.740 minutes here to
00:32:17.880 turn that in, we
00:32:18.600 hope, to a
00:32:19.200 preliminary injunction
00:32:19.980 to fully enforce
00:32:21.400 that.
00:32:22.200 But again, it's a
00:32:23.220 demonstration that
00:32:24.080 the city of
00:32:24.600 Louisville, who
00:32:25.400 is going to send
00:32:25.880 out their police
00:32:26.400 officers to take
00:32:27.360 down license plates
00:32:28.380 numbers and
00:32:29.360 enforce anyone
00:32:30.140 parked in a
00:32:30.740 church parking
00:32:31.300 lot on Easter
00:32:31.860 Sunday morning
00:32:32.480 into a 14-day
00:32:33.540 quarantine period,
00:32:35.140 I mean, goodness
00:32:35.680 gracious, that is
00:32:36.540 not the kind of
00:32:37.100 thing that we
00:32:37.600 expect our police
00:32:38.420 officers to be
00:32:39.080 doing in the
00:32:39.840 United States of
00:32:40.540 America in
00:32:41.180 2020.
00:32:41.980 2020, that is
00:32:43.660 certainly not the
00:32:44.280 level of freedom
00:32:44.920 that we get.
00:32:45.620 So look, while
00:32:46.500 there may be some
00:32:47.200 reason for a
00:32:48.040 temporary restriction
00:32:49.120 on some large
00:32:50.180 in-person gatherings,
00:32:52.040 I think you're
00:32:52.760 hearing America
00:32:53.300 wondering, wait a
00:32:54.080 minute, is this
00:32:54.520 temporary anymore?
00:32:56.260 And how long is
00:32:57.100 this going to
00:32:57.680 last?
00:32:58.100 And on top of
00:32:58.620 all that, why
00:32:59.920 are they being so
00:33:00.780 targeted at churches
00:33:01.820 and not anywhere
00:33:02.500 else?
00:33:02.880 That doesn't seem
00:33:03.440 to make a whole
00:33:03.980 lot of sense, as
00:33:04.620 if the virus
00:33:05.100 somehow targets
00:33:06.660 churches themselves
00:33:07.520 instead of liquor
00:33:08.920 stores.
00:33:10.300 Well, there are a
00:33:11.260 couple of instances
00:33:12.120 where there have
00:33:13.320 been some other
00:33:13.760 weird restrictions,
00:33:14.600 like the Chicago
00:33:16.080 mayor said that if
00:33:17.680 you're found
00:33:18.600 outside, then you
00:33:20.880 can be ticketed, or
00:33:22.680 like in Philadelphia
00:33:24.140 the other day, where
00:33:25.500 10 cops dragged a
00:33:27.340 guy off a bus
00:33:28.100 because he wasn't
00:33:28.900 wearing a mask.
00:33:30.440 Is it, I mean, can
00:33:31.760 law enforcement
00:33:32.540 really enforce
00:33:34.460 restrictions that are
00:33:37.240 that severe?
00:33:37.940 I guess we're
00:33:40.280 going to find
00:33:40.740 out.
00:33:41.180 I mean, I
00:33:41.800 assume it was
00:33:42.400 Stuart, Pat, one
00:33:43.460 of you guys that
00:33:44.140 were out paddle
00:33:44.720 boarding in the
00:33:45.260 Pacific Ocean and
00:33:46.120 got dragged into
00:33:46.900 the store by the
00:33:48.360 police as well.
00:33:49.360 I mean, it's
00:33:50.480 incredible where
00:33:51.540 the police are
00:33:52.920 given greater
00:33:54.500 authority somehow
00:33:55.320 right now during the
00:33:56.120 middle of a
00:33:56.420 pandemic.
00:33:57.500 Maybe what the
00:33:58.340 virus has done for
00:33:59.340 all of us is
00:34:00.000 provided a bit of
00:34:01.280 a cultural truth
00:34:02.640 serum to find out
00:34:03.760 exactly where,
00:34:05.680 what do we really
00:34:07.060 believe about
00:34:07.660 freedom, and what
00:34:08.980 does that mean for
00:34:09.960 us all?
00:34:10.600 Look, let me just
00:34:11.240 talk in the area of
00:34:11.940 religious liberty
00:34:12.400 since that's kind
00:34:12.980 of where I spend
00:34:13.460 my life.
00:34:14.500 You know, we're
00:34:15.320 kind of living out
00:34:16.280 the left vision for
00:34:17.780 religious freedom,
00:34:18.640 or what they call
00:34:19.220 the freedom to
00:34:20.040 worship right now.
00:34:21.660 Do church at home,
00:34:23.000 inside your house.
00:34:24.260 Maybe you can
00:34:24.940 access it virtually,
00:34:26.480 but don't you dare
00:34:27.020 bring it into your
00:34:27.580 place of work, or
00:34:29.400 take it to school,
00:34:30.300 or into the military
00:34:30.980 with you.
00:34:31.580 Don't get outside
00:34:32.200 the four walls of
00:34:32.980 your home.
00:34:34.020 Keep it locked
00:34:34.600 down.
00:34:35.020 And if you
00:34:36.120 appear in public,
00:34:36.920 the police are
00:34:37.300 going to come out
00:34:37.920 and disperse your
00:34:38.980 group and ticket you
00:34:39.780 if you do.
00:34:41.080 This is not the
00:34:41.800 vision of the
00:34:42.260 founding fathers.
00:34:43.240 This is not what
00:34:44.240 we intended to have
00:34:45.240 as religious liberty
00:34:46.100 in the long haul.
00:34:47.760 And so I think it's
00:34:48.480 important for us to
00:34:49.160 stop and look around.
00:34:50.620 This is the vision
00:34:51.440 of the left right
00:34:52.320 now.
00:34:52.900 This is not the
00:34:53.600 vision that our
00:34:54.100 founding fathers
00:34:54.620 had.
00:34:55.000 This is not the
00:34:55.440 vision that we've
00:34:56.400 been living for 200
00:34:57.320 plus years in the
00:34:58.120 United States of
00:34:58.660 America.
00:34:59.160 This is not the
00:35:00.020 level of freedom
00:35:00.660 that you and I
00:35:01.800 not only expect,
00:35:03.040 but are due under
00:35:04.880 not only the
00:35:05.500 Constitution but our
00:35:06.500 Declaration of
00:35:07.020 Independence.
00:35:07.600 This is not the
00:35:08.460 freedom that we have
00:35:09.800 ordered our lives by.
00:35:12.300 I think part of this
00:35:13.220 too is when they
00:35:13.880 talk about essential
00:35:15.040 businesses.
00:35:15.740 And by the way,
00:35:16.200 I don't think any
00:35:17.540 governor has been
00:35:19.160 daring enough to not
00:35:20.380 include alcohol,
00:35:21.700 which is really
00:35:22.380 bizarre.
00:35:23.160 I mean, the liquor
00:35:23.800 store, I think, in
00:35:24.520 every state is protected
00:35:25.540 as an essential
00:35:26.260 business, which I
00:35:27.240 mean, I understand
00:35:27.840 we're stressed out
00:35:28.660 here, but I don't
00:35:29.120 know that that's
00:35:29.540 necessarily as
00:35:30.420 important as other
00:35:31.360 constitutionally
00:35:32.260 guaranteed rights.
00:35:33.560 But when it comes
00:35:34.180 to church, it not
00:35:35.740 only, I think, has
00:35:36.460 an effect as far
00:35:38.300 as constitutionally
00:35:39.620 and what the right
00:35:40.340 thing to do is to
00:35:41.860 allow people to
00:35:42.640 worship if they're
00:35:43.320 taking normal
00:35:44.820 precautions and doing
00:35:45.740 the best that they
00:35:46.220 can, but in
00:35:47.080 addition, if you
00:35:47.900 want people to
00:35:48.800 voluntarily do
00:35:51.700 this large swath
00:35:53.980 of restrictions and
00:35:55.980 life changes,
00:35:57.380 giving them a
00:35:58.500 foundational thing
00:35:59.620 they can still
00:36:00.280 connect to is
00:36:01.640 actually going to
00:36:02.220 help us all
00:36:04.140 kind of, if we're
00:36:05.360 in the middle of a
00:36:05.780 shut-in, it's going
00:36:06.380 to help us because
00:36:07.500 we're going to have
00:36:07.980 some outlet, we're
00:36:08.840 going to have some
00:36:09.420 way to stay sane,
00:36:10.320 we're going to have
00:36:10.660 some sort of
00:36:11.160 foundational basis
00:36:12.080 that we can get to
00:36:13.380 and making an enemy
00:36:14.920 out of the churches
00:36:16.000 and the pastors around
00:36:16.840 this country strikes me
00:36:18.060 as a terrible idea
00:36:19.240 for the government.
00:36:21.260 And for the culture
00:36:22.480 at large.
00:36:23.220 Look, the government
00:36:23.980 is not really very
00:36:25.100 capable of providing
00:36:26.080 care, call, and
00:36:26.980 comfort.
00:36:27.940 That actually is the
00:36:28.700 domain of the church.
00:36:29.420 And our houses of
00:36:30.980 worship have proven
00:36:31.900 over millennia the
00:36:33.860 ability to provide
00:36:34.980 that level of comfort
00:36:36.060 and care and calm
00:36:37.820 amidst pandemics and
00:36:39.040 epidemics and wars and
00:36:40.620 everything like that.
00:36:41.920 And so for the
00:36:42.680 government to kind of
00:36:43.340 kick them aside as if
00:36:44.400 they're some sort of
00:36:45.140 needless appendage, as
00:36:46.620 if they're the, you
00:36:47.480 know, the appendix of
00:36:48.480 the culture around us
00:36:49.780 that is not really
00:36:50.440 needed and we don't
00:36:51.000 know why they're even
00:36:52.140 here, that strikes me
00:36:54.020 as extremely not only
00:36:55.580 intolerant of religion,
00:36:57.280 but in some respects
00:36:58.160 really hostile towards
00:36:59.240 religion as a whole.
00:37:00.260 And so again, I think
00:37:00.820 the virus is revealing
00:37:01.880 here some biases that
00:37:03.960 were deep hidden
00:37:05.240 amongst some politicians
00:37:06.400 and are coming out.
00:37:08.100 Look, Mayor de Blasio
00:37:09.080 a couple weeks ago, and
00:37:09.860 I really kind of feel
00:37:10.380 badly of kind of
00:37:11.340 pushing against a mayor
00:37:13.100 who has had a lot of
00:37:14.400 stuff going on in their
00:37:15.240 city.
00:37:16.140 But I mean, he comes
00:37:17.000 out and says, hey,
00:37:18.280 you know, if these
00:37:18.900 synagogues don't abide by
00:37:20.420 my orders, I'm going to
00:37:21.960 send the health
00:37:22.360 department out and we're
00:37:23.080 going to permanently
00:37:23.580 shut them down.
00:37:25.000 Permanently shut down
00:37:26.000 synagogues?
00:37:27.400 Is this America in
00:37:28.760 2020?
00:37:29.940 That's never going to
00:37:30.900 fly into the
00:37:31.380 Constitution.
00:37:32.000 And the worst thing
00:37:32.580 is that to my
00:37:33.180 knowledge, I don't
00:37:33.660 think the mayor has
00:37:34.340 actually walked those
00:37:35.020 comments back.
00:37:36.420 No, I don't think he
00:37:37.220 has.
00:37:38.000 And it's interesting
00:37:39.040 when you think back
00:37:40.100 to what's been going
00:37:42.420 on in this country
00:37:43.140 for a while from
00:37:44.320 someone on the left,
00:37:46.840 they have been setting
00:37:47.880 the stage for this
00:37:48.740 kind of thing.
00:37:49.340 I know Tammy Baldwin,
00:37:51.220 Senator Baldwin from
00:37:52.520 Wisconsin, said a
00:37:53.900 couple of years ago
00:37:54.600 that your rights to
00:37:56.620 freedom of religion
00:37:57.440 don't extend much
00:37:58.620 beyond either the
00:38:00.220 church house or your
00:38:01.100 own house.
00:38:01.980 And that's pretty much
00:38:03.120 where they stay.
00:38:05.080 So they've been, and
00:38:06.360 so did Debbie Wasserman
00:38:08.080 Schultz say virtually
00:38:09.020 the same thing.
00:38:09.800 So they've been setting
00:38:11.020 up this attack against
00:38:13.200 religion and trying to
00:38:15.180 minimize the First
00:38:16.400 Amendment as much as
00:38:17.420 they possibly can.
00:38:18.640 Now I think they see
00:38:19.520 their opportunity with
00:38:20.600 this pandemic that they
00:38:22.960 can maybe take some
00:38:24.220 steps to shut it
00:38:25.100 down.
00:38:26.540 It's a shame.
00:38:27.520 And what do they
00:38:27.940 shut down in the
00:38:28.520 process?
00:38:29.540 Well, roughly about a
00:38:31.260 trillion and a half in
00:38:32.480 socioeconomic relief that
00:38:34.060 the faith-based
00:38:34.960 organizations, churches,
00:38:36.180 synagogues, and the
00:38:36.780 like provide to this
00:38:38.120 country.
00:38:38.860 When those charitable
00:38:40.320 dollars and those
00:38:41.160 charitable actions dry
00:38:42.420 up, then that has to
00:38:44.840 go and fall on
00:38:45.720 something and somewhere.
00:38:47.300 And it's going to
00:38:47.880 probably go to central
00:38:48.800 planning again at the
00:38:50.180 governmental level.
00:38:51.560 And that's going to
00:38:52.680 result in what?
00:38:53.740 Greater taxes, less
00:38:55.880 opportunity, and less
00:38:58.060 good being done to our
00:38:59.600 community here.
00:39:00.200 That's why I think it
00:39:00.720 was very critical for
00:39:01.580 the president to
00:39:02.620 include, or the
00:39:03.620 Congress to include
00:39:04.400 within the CARES Act,
00:39:05.460 some relief for these
00:39:06.820 nonprofit organizations.
00:39:08.360 And yet, my gracious,
00:39:10.080 you would have thought
00:39:10.820 you would have to move
00:39:11.540 a mountain in order to
00:39:12.620 be able to have
00:39:13.480 pastors the ability to
00:39:15.440 find relief for their
00:39:17.000 churches within the
00:39:17.980 midst of this coronavirus
00:39:19.360 outbreak, or faith-based
00:39:21.000 institutions who feed
00:39:22.240 children around the
00:39:23.760 world be able to take
00:39:24.760 part in the relief of
00:39:26.380 the CARES Act.
00:39:27.760 That was an incredible
00:39:29.540 fight within the
00:39:30.540 Congress and within
00:39:31.660 the administration, or
00:39:32.520 at least within the
00:39:33.080 rules afterwards.
00:39:34.180 Thank goodness that all
00:39:35.260 resulted in relief that
00:39:36.820 are going to be able to
00:39:37.380 continue those charitable
00:39:38.200 acts.
00:39:38.560 Otherwise, you and I and
00:39:40.000 our tax dollars are
00:39:40.780 going to be having to
00:39:41.460 pick up that bill.
00:39:42.600 And Jeremy Dice,
00:39:43.500 Special Counsel, First
00:39:44.440 Liberty Institute, in the
00:39:45.480 middle of fighting all
00:39:46.080 these battles right now,
00:39:47.260 also hosts the First
00:39:48.160 Liberty Briefing.
00:39:49.380 Jeremy, thanks for
00:39:49.860 coming on the show,
00:39:50.260 man.
00:39:50.740 My pleasure.
00:39:51.320 Always good to be
00:39:51.720 here, guys.
00:39:52.160 All right.
00:39:52.380 All right.