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00:00:00.000 You do not want to miss, you do not want to miss on today's podcast, Monkey Madness.

00:00:07.640 It's, whoo, there's a story.

00:00:10.860 You know, when you think of monkeys and weird, weird, I mean, sick, demented monkey stories,

00:00:18.340 nothing comes to mind, at least in my mental Rolodex here.

00:00:22.200 I'm looking weird, demented monkey stories.

00:00:24.740 I don't have any to tell.

00:00:25.820 So, Stu brought one to the table, and the good news is, it's an American story.

00:00:31.080 You're welcome.

00:00:32.140 You're welcome.

00:00:33.060 Yeah, you don't want to miss that.

00:00:35.440 Also, we talked to Generation Z-ers, if you will.

00:00:41.040 There are these videos going around with these Generation Z people that are saying,

00:00:44.980 you know, I can't, an eight-hour workday, nine to five, that's incredible.

00:00:49.800 I can't do that.

00:00:50.560 I don't want to do that.

00:00:51.340 And they're getting a really bad name because of, because of these Generation Z-ers that are 1.00

00:00:56.320 posting on TikTok, et cetera, et cetera.

00:00:58.660 But we talk right directly to them and say more than what's being said online.

00:01:03.860 Get off my lawn!

00:01:06.120 I want to make the case to Generation Z that I get it.

00:01:10.960 I understand what you're going through because you grew up in a different age, but it's important

00:01:16.420 that you understand who's responsible for the things that you're going through.

00:01:22.240 That's today on the podcast.

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00:02:52.720 I want to continue our conversation with Gen Zers that feel like it's not worth even trying to go to work 1.00

00:03:01.860 because you'll never get anywhere.

00:03:03.780 You can't afford, you work a full-time 40-hour week, you still can't afford a place to live.

00:03:10.320 You're still living with your parents.

00:03:11.840 You can't afford food.

00:03:13.500 And I think they're right to feel this way.

00:03:15.960 That wasn't always the case.

00:03:18.500 But I want them to know that I blame a lot of it on the hippies.

00:03:23.720 And that may be wrong, but I hate hippies. 0.82

00:03:27.200 Hippies have been screwing things up since the 1960s. 1.00

00:03:30.600 And they have been on this socialist march.

00:03:33.400 And they have become everything that they said they despised back in the 1960s.

00:03:40.320 They have been liars and politicians.

00:03:43.280 And they have become greedy for themselves.

00:03:47.600 And they just won't let go.

00:03:50.560 Their time has passed.

00:03:51.720 But these are the people that have come up with all of these policies that now you feel like this is the way the world is.

00:04:01.240 It doesn't have to be this way.

00:04:03.280 And I was talking about crime, looters, squatters, riots.

00:04:07.160 Somebody has to pay for that.

00:04:09.540 Actions have consequences.

00:04:11.280 Votes have consequences.

00:04:13.440 You say you can't afford health care.

00:04:15.680 I understand that.

00:04:16.800 That's crazy.

00:04:18.120 Crazy.

00:04:18.600 My own company used to provide the best health care insurance in all of New York City and New York State.

00:04:27.720 At one point after Obamacare passed, they were taxing us, you know, Cadillac taxes.

00:04:34.580 I was the only company that still carried that until the insurance company stopped carrying it.

00:04:41.580 Why?

00:04:42.340 Since Obamacare passed, health care costs have gone up 55% for the average premium.

00:04:51.600 That's without inflation figured in.

00:04:54.740 $13,000 to $21,000.

00:04:58.500 But that's just from 2013 to 2020.

00:05:02.380 That doesn't include the last three years.

00:05:04.600 Since Biden has entered office, it's up again from $21,000 to $24,000 a year.

00:05:11.640 That is an increase of 80%.

00:05:15.500 But you have to remember, politicians promised that if we pass this big government program,

00:05:21.860 it would mean a savings of $2,500 per family.

00:05:25.820 I mean, you're in school, you know, $2,500 savings is not the same as an 80% increase.

00:05:39.200 Hospitals, your hospital stay is up 210%.

00:05:45.400 I understand you can't afford, I can't afford health care at these costs.

00:05:50.780 Who can afford health care?

00:05:52.560 Who can afford insurance?

00:05:56.700 You also are starting your life thousands of dollars in debt.

00:06:02.040 Your parents didn't have to have that.

00:06:04.480 They didn't.

00:06:06.140 You could take a job and work a job to pay for your college as you went.

00:06:11.720 You can't do that now.

00:06:14.180 When they took out their loans, most likely the government wasn't behind their loans.

00:06:20.100 Once that happened, once the government said, you know what, we're going to guarantee all the loans.

00:06:26.880 Once that happened, like health care, the cost of going to a university skyrocketed and it hasn't stopped.

00:06:34.400 In 1965, it was Lyndon B. Johnson who said, we're going to just guarantee.

00:06:39.580 We're going to guarantee everybody's college, don't worry about it, we'll help you with the loan.

00:06:46.580 Well, once the government guaranteed it, universities found, well, we can just charge more.

00:06:52.820 And they have been charging more and more.

00:06:54.840 In 1965, it was $450 a year to go to college.

00:07:00.920 Now, let's change with inflation.

00:07:03.780 With inflation, that's $4,000 a year.

00:07:07.880 You're currently paying on the average $26,000 a year.

00:07:13.700 As opposed to inflation adjusted, $4,000.

00:07:18.120 What happened?

00:07:20.260 What happened?

00:07:23.500 By the way, books, the cost of books up 155%.

00:07:29.100 Gas, gas is up.

00:07:31.640 Why?

00:07:32.460 Government regulations.

00:07:34.300 Can't afford a house?

00:07:36.120 Well, that's due to several things.

00:07:37.800 Many of them revolve around the Fed and our debt.

00:07:47.580 Look, you have been fed lies probably your whole life.

00:07:53.140 And your parents just realized it during COVID.

00:07:57.380 Okay?

00:07:58.820 There's something called common sense.

00:08:00.920 And hopefully you have it.

00:08:02.660 Hopefully it hasn't been beaten out of you in these indoctrination camps we call schools.

00:08:11.860 The U.S. government has run a debt.

00:08:14.660 And we have been concerned about it forever.

00:08:17.460 But they haven't been listening to your mom and dad and people like me.

00:08:21.100 They haven't been listening.

00:08:22.580 And a lot of people just thought, oh, well, we could get away with it.

00:08:25.940 And somehow or another, it will all work out.

00:08:29.260 And many of us have been saying, no, we can't pass this on to our children.

00:08:34.800 And you're now seeing what we have passed on.

00:08:38.340 So when you say, Generation Z, that, you know, this is, you know, the adults, you created this world.

00:08:47.240 In some ways, yeah, you're right.

00:08:49.400 You're right.

00:08:50.880 We were lied to.

00:08:52.200 And as many people do, they want to believe the lie because it makes them feel better.

00:09:00.440 Quite honestly, it's what's happening in your generation with that's a female when it's not. 1.00

00:09:08.140 It's a male.

00:09:09.000 And he feels like a female. 0.77

00:09:12.240 He wants to be a female. 0.96

00:09:13.400 But it makes us feel better to go along with the lie because we don't want to hurt his feelings.

00:09:20.240 That's the same thing that happened, except this time it was with money.

00:09:23.260 We wanted to believe that we could spend all this money because, honestly, it would provide you, our children, with a better life.

00:09:30.980 And when anybody said, wait, we're going to have to pay this off.

00:09:34.200 This is going to cost them.

00:09:35.660 We never saw the consequence, and it was always way out in the future.

00:09:42.640 Nobody wanted to listen to the doomsday people saying, no, it's going to come faster than you think.

00:09:47.800 And that time is right now.

00:09:52.280 Our government now is printing $1 trillion every 100 days.

00:10:00.120 It's never been done.

00:10:01.180 We have more debt than any country has ever had in the history of the world.

00:10:06.920 But we're not alone.

00:10:09.400 Every country is doing this.

00:10:12.260 They're going into debt like we've never seen before.

00:10:18.140 And we're all about to pay for that.

00:10:20.400 And it's going to make your life even harder.

00:10:24.800 That's why real, true constitutional conservatives, okay?

00:10:30.300 And you have to understand that everything is being cut into fractions now.

00:10:37.840 There are Marxists and there are decent Democrats that still believe in the Constitution and the rule of law.

00:10:45.320 There are Republicans that still believe in spending all kinds of money, getting us involved in every war around.

00:10:53.300 And then there are constitutional conservatives that believe that we should conserve the things that have worked, throw out the things that don't work, but we can only do those things that are allowed by our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

00:11:11.480 Because all of our problems are caused by government and the people supporting a government that will do things that are not in our Constitution.

00:11:27.420 But that's what this election is really all about.

00:11:32.260 And you might say, I don't really care.

00:11:36.460 I don't really care.

00:11:37.400 I don't like either of them.

00:11:38.580 I know.

00:11:39.220 A lot of people don't like either of them.

00:11:41.760 But one is going to try to cut the size of this government down, which is causing the problems.

00:11:53.480 All of these programs, all of the things that we've said we wanted, you know, your parents can't retire now.

00:12:01.400 You know, you have the opportunity that they didn't.

00:12:04.280 They were promised, I was promised, that we could retire at 65 and we'd get Social Security and we could live off that.

00:12:11.700 There's no way you could live off that.

00:12:14.740 You, if you look at the bright side, you're paying for Social Security now, but at least you know you're never going to get it.

00:12:24.620 I'm probably the first generation that knows we're not going to get it.

00:12:30.300 We're not.

00:12:31.180 It was a lie.

00:12:32.000 But all of the people that are older than I am, they didn't necessarily know it was a lie.

00:12:39.800 And now they're stuck.

00:12:42.880 And I know people think about retirement, but honestly, especially for guys, if you retire, you generally die.

00:12:51.920 There is no such thing as retirement.

00:12:54.260 That doesn't mean you stay in the same job doing the same things.

00:12:58.040 But you, you work.

00:13:00.840 You work.

00:13:01.600 It's something, something that drives you, maybe if you're lucky, by the time you're older.

00:13:08.840 But man's meant to work.

00:13:12.940 We have to find a way to keep the people who have been raping this country and our treasury for so many years away from you.

00:13:29.780 Because if they teach you, like they taught us, that all of this stuff will work, you're only going to see much, much more pain.

00:13:41.000 So we have to try to protect you so you can do your things while we, my generation, stands between you and the older generation that just have raped, robbed, and pillaged through their hippie policies.

00:13:55.700 We say, stand back, enough is enough, enough is enough, let go.

00:14:01.240 My generation should not be the one that takes the power now.

00:14:04.660 Really, the younger generation, 30, 40 years old, they're the ones, because they're going to have to live with it a lot longer than I am.

00:14:14.520 And the people who created it cannot fix it.

00:14:20.160 But it can be fixed.

00:14:22.000 You just have to learn enough about the truth about why this has happened to us.

00:14:31.740 Why did we make it for so long?

00:14:34.860 Longer.

00:14:35.440 This constitution lasted longer than any other constitution in the world.

00:14:39.620 The average is 17 years.

00:14:42.780 This thing has lasted hundreds of years.

00:14:45.400 Why?

00:14:46.320 How?

00:14:48.260 And why is it falling apart today?

00:14:50.580 That's what you should dedicate some of your time to figuring out today.

00:14:58.660 Not just complaining.

00:15:00.160 You can complain.

00:15:01.040 I complain.

00:15:01.700 Everybody complains.

00:15:04.580 But learn what caused this.

00:15:09.860 And if you end up thinking that Marxism is the solution, more collectivism is the solution, then you haven't done enough homework in the past.

00:15:20.580 Because that always ends the same way.

00:15:25.620 And the way that starts at the end is exactly what we're going through right now.

00:15:34.020 All right, man.

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00:16:46.140 Now back to the podcast.

00:16:48.960 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

00:16:55.240 All right, let me go back and play a couple of Gen Zers that are currently online.

00:17:03.760 These are going viral.

00:17:05.540 This one came out April 2nd.

00:17:08.180 Here's a Gen Zer talking about life and how hard it is. 1.00

00:17:12.540 Working a 9-to-5 is the biggest f***ing scam out there.

00:17:16.260 The biggest scam.

00:17:17.140 How the f*** do you want to sit here and tell me that I work every day of my life, every f***ing day, but I still don't have enough to pay my bills?

00:17:25.640 How?

00:17:26.580 How?

00:17:27.180 And before you say, oh, get a better job.

00:17:29.100 F***, I have had four jobs.

00:17:31.500 Four different, completely different type of jobs.

00:17:35.400 All different pays.

00:17:36.760 And how are you going to tell me none of those four jobs could pay my f***ing bills?

00:17:40.500 That's a good point by the Joker's mistress, but I don't think necessarily...

00:17:46.100 If you happen to be watching Blaze TV, she has got, you know, candy cane hair or clown hair. 1.00

00:17:52.500 And I stand corrected.

00:17:54.780 I said last hour, two-inch nails.

00:17:56.660 They've got to be three- to four-inch nails. 0.98

00:17:58.980 Yes.

00:17:59.820 Yeah.

00:18:00.140 That are neon green.

00:18:02.000 Perhaps one of the issues was she took a job typing and she was unable to complete the tasks.

00:18:08.080 And that's a fascinating thing to watch.

00:18:11.160 Now, one thing we should note to our Gen Z friends is that when you talk about having four jobs, it's not necessarily quantity you're looking for.

00:18:21.340 Like, you're searching for quality, not quantity.

00:18:24.400 And, you know, you could say, well, she had four jobs, but I don't think she meant all at the same time.

00:18:30.300 No.

00:18:30.640 There are parents that work four jobs.

00:18:33.100 Oh, yeah.

00:18:33.740 My parents worked two jobs each my whole life, really.

00:18:41.620 Okay.

00:18:43.480 They barely made it.

00:18:46.180 And they, well, they didn't have candy corn hair.

00:18:48.700 So, you know, I don't know.

00:18:50.400 I don't know.

00:18:51.220 Now, go ahead.

00:18:53.500 Say what everybody's thinking.

00:18:55.760 Suck it up, buttercup. 1.00

00:18:57.180 You know what I mean?

00:18:57.580 You've got to say it.

00:18:58.440 It's got to be part of the equation.

00:19:01.740 And I will say, I think, like is the case when you talk to a Hispanic American and they say to you, you know what pisses me off when everyone assumes I'm for illegal immigration?

00:19:14.820 And, like, the people who are toughest on the border tend to be legal immigrants from Latin America who are like, hey, I did this the right way. 1.00

00:19:25.260 Screw you.

00:19:26.500 I think a lot of Gen Zers look at people like this and say, wait a minute.

00:19:30.920 Don't paint my whole generation like this.

00:19:32.980 This is insanity.

00:19:34.660 Get off my lawn.

00:19:35.800 Suck it up, buttercup. 1.00

00:19:37.200 Get to work.

00:19:38.420 You know what?

00:19:39.140 Not every bill is going to be paid if you don't work hard.

00:19:42.120 And sometimes you'll work hard and it'll be difficult.

00:19:44.240 I know for a fact I went through a period which was a lot of, like, hey, if I have this credit card convenience check that I write to my rent this month, it should work out.

00:19:56.120 There were a lot of things that were very difficult as I, you know, came up.

00:20:00.080 I know the same is for you, even though you had success very early on in your career.

00:20:04.520 You blew it so many times.

00:20:05.960 You had plenty of struggles.

00:20:08.840 But, I mean, I think everybody goes through that.

00:20:11.180 And I know I went into the workforce with the idea, this is going to suck for a while.

00:20:17.820 That was really my attitude going in.

00:20:19.880 I'm going to work a lot and not make a lot of money.

00:20:22.620 You know, when I started in radio, I was working as a promotions guy, which I made, like, $6 an hour.

00:20:29.000 And I only got paid for when the promotions were occurring, which was, like, a two-hour period.

00:20:34.320 And then all the other time that I worked with you and started my career, I made $0 an hour.

00:20:40.320 I went in there all the time and did and worked and worked and worked and worked for nothing until that changed, thankfully.

00:20:46.960 Now, if it never changed, it would have been, I would have had to change careers.

00:20:49.640 But eventually it did.

00:20:51.340 But the mindset going in was, this is going to suck for a while.

00:20:57.900 Even if that's not true, that should be your mindset.

00:21:01.360 If you go in with a mindset of, like, why are they not rewarding me for all of my wonders, you're going to wind up disappointed very early in your career.

00:21:09.540 May I just say that one of the reasons why people feel that way, Gen Zers, is because that's the way they've always been treated.

00:21:17.620 They've always been told, you're special.

00:21:21.180 My family, there were times when they said, you're special, and they didn't mean it, like, in a positive way.

00:21:28.140 Right.

00:21:28.400 You know what I mean?

00:21:29.440 Glenn might be special.

00:21:32.780 And, you know, we didn't get trophies for everything.

00:21:35.940 You had to earn things, and they have been coddled, and I hate to say this if you're a Gen Zer, because it's going to sound different coming from me than, you know, what your experience might have been. 0.99

00:21:50.740 But you don't understand, I as a parent know, because I saw the changes in our society.

00:21:57.240 It's always been this way for you.

00:21:59.300 And so you may not think, I wasn't coddled, because your point of view is, it's always been like this.

00:22:07.480 Everybody was treated like this.

00:22:09.600 Yeah, I know.

00:22:10.780 And that's one of the problems.

00:22:12.300 We bought into a lie from all of these so-called experts that said, oh, always ask your kids how they're feeling.

00:22:20.540 You know, you're expecting too much from your kids.

00:22:23.140 Don't push your kids.

00:22:24.180 You know, be there for them when they get a bad grade.

00:22:27.920 All of that stuff.

00:22:29.640 And all of that was garbage and a lie.

00:22:33.160 And then you went to a school where most likely they taught you even more lies.

00:22:37.460 And then they told you the lie.

00:22:39.620 Your parents probably did.

00:22:41.260 Society definitely did.

00:22:43.180 And schools certainly did.

00:22:45.260 That you can't make it unless you go to these very expensive colleges.

00:22:50.340 That's a lie.

00:22:51.780 That's a lie.

00:22:52.380 You don't have to go to college.

00:22:55.680 And I know my kids, people were like, so where are they going to go to college?

00:23:02.860 Where are they going to go to college?

00:23:03.580 I don't know.

00:23:04.500 They may not go to college.

00:23:05.760 What?

00:23:06.700 I mean, that's great.

00:23:08.000 You've got to go to college.

00:23:09.280 Really?

00:23:10.040 I didn't.

00:23:11.660 I didn't at all.

00:23:13.560 And it turned out pretty well for me.

00:23:16.620 That was one of the most frustrating things listening to these social media videos is that they are like,

00:23:21.840 well, I went to college and I've got all these loans and I can't make it.

00:23:26.300 And it's like, well, why are you blaming, let's say, society for that?

00:23:30.860 Why aren't you blaming colleges who, as you pointed out earlier, what was it?

00:23:36.180 200 or it was 160% increase in tuition over the past 20 years.

00:23:40.700 And what are they giving you for that?

00:23:43.860 This is a, this is the dumb, I, look, this is the dumbest thing in the world.

00:23:50.140 To send your kid to a place that is going to bring them back as a socialist, most likely,

00:23:55.760 that will give them no job skills and will wind up costing them and putting them in debt,

00:24:01.840 $100,000, $200,000 to start their life.

00:24:05.120 Like, it's one thing when you've got a good job to take out a loan on a house and all these things

00:24:09.520 to start your life with no asset in, in theory.

00:24:13.000 I mean, obviously you have the asset of the knowledge, whatever that brings you.

00:24:15.140 And everybody has the same asset.

00:24:17.340 Yeah.

00:24:17.740 And that's the thing.

00:24:18.800 I mean, you know, Brian Kaplan makes this argument really convincingly and it's called

00:24:22.140 The Case Against Education, which is a great title of a book.

00:24:25.660 But like you, you go through this and it's like, it's just credentialism.

00:24:28.640 Like, everyone's competing to get to the same line where like, hey, we all have the same

00:24:33.440 thing now.

00:24:34.520 We spent $200,000 and now we all have the same degree that doesn't really do anything for

00:24:41.240 us other than clear some like auto-generated filter process for employers.

00:24:49.180 And like, that is, that's a real problem by employers, I think.

00:24:52.720 I mean, again, they're not even looking at some of the best applicants that they have because

00:24:56.580 a lot of them are just like, oh, we'll just filter out everyone who doesn't have a degree.

00:24:59.860 So I understand why you'd want to go get a degree, but like, it makes absolutely no

00:25:03.080 sense in the real world unless you're doing very specific things.

00:25:06.300 So everything in your life, if you're a Gen Zer, has got to change. 1.00

00:25:10.500 It has to change.

00:25:11.440 And there are many of us that believe that we need to change and know what these problems

00:25:17.200 are.

00:25:18.420 For instance, you don't have hope right now, many Gen Zers, that your life is going to get 1.00

00:25:25.420 better, that America is going to get better.

00:25:27.580 And you know what?

00:25:28.500 If things don't dramatically change, they won't.

00:25:32.380 But it will be your generation that will make that change. 0.98

00:25:36.580 I mean, a lot of Gen Zers and Generation X, they're starting to wake up now and seeing,

00:25:42.440 wait a minute, everything I've been promised by politicians, the opposite seems to be true.

00:25:48.880 You know, we're going to have more fairness.

00:25:51.040 Uh, we're going to reimagine the cops.

00:25:54.040 Well, has that worked out for anybody except criminals?

00:25:59.280 Has it made your life cheaper, better?

00:26:03.400 Do you feel safer in your town, your neighborhood?

00:26:07.580 No.

00:26:08.880 So you know that that, the people who told you this, that we should reimagine the cops,

00:26:15.040 you know they were either wildly wrong or they were lying to you.

00:26:22.960 Either way, you shouldn't listen to them anymore.

00:26:26.520 Same thing, and this goes for everybody.

00:26:29.300 The people who said we have to violate the free market system to save the free market system,

00:26:34.460 does the free market system seem to be saved?

00:26:37.260 Because that's the lie the Federal Reserve and President Bush and everybody else said

00:26:43.020 after 2008 and the banks collapsed.

00:26:46.220 By the way, if you're a Gen Zer, you grew up, I can understand why you are so calloused against this, 1.00

00:26:52.200 because you grew up at a time where you saw your mom and dad maybe lose their house,

00:26:56.840 lose everything they had because of the 2008 banking crisis.

00:27:01.120 So who bailed all of those people out?

00:27:04.800 The Federal Reserve bailed the banks out, but didn't bail mom and dad out.

00:27:09.760 So who told you that if we violate all of our principles, that we'll make things better,

00:27:18.800 who did that? 0.91

00:27:20.220 The Federal Reserve, the politicians, and the banks.

00:27:24.640 You shouldn't listen to those people because they either were wildly wrong or they lied to you.

00:27:35.180 I mean, you could go through this one after another,

00:27:39.280 but right now the politicians and the banks and the central banks, the Federal Reserve,

00:27:47.320 are all telling you that we need to spend a trillion dollars more than what we have every 100 days.

00:27:58.960 A trillion dollars.

00:28:02.180 Remember, if you put a dollar down on the table every second for every minute of every hour of every day,

00:28:09.000 of every week, of every year,

00:28:11.040 it would take you 36,000 years before you would have a stack of a trillion dollars.

00:28:19.040 We are printing a trillion dollars every 100 days.

00:28:23.260 Now somebody has to pay for that.

00:28:25.260 And unfortunately, it's going to be you and me.

00:28:30.000 Because nobody's going to allow us to default on that debt.

00:28:33.660 It's just not going to happen.

00:28:38.260 All right.

00:28:39.020 So then how do we pay for it?

00:28:42.360 Well, they try to convince you or your parents or businesses or somebody to buy government bonds.

00:28:50.540 Why is that a problem?

00:28:53.020 The government is issuing a trillion dollars and wanting to sell those bonds,

00:29:00.560 which means somebody just, it's like a bank giving you a loan for a car.

00:29:06.160 Okay.

00:29:06.460 But in the end, you have a car.

00:29:09.400 Now that's not a great investment because the car eventually depreciates to nothing.

00:29:15.320 But if you want to buy a new car, well, you go to a bank and they look at everything and say,

00:29:20.120 you're good for the money.

00:29:21.600 We'll give you that and you buy a new car.

00:29:23.660 Now you buy a new house.

00:29:25.840 That's great.

00:29:27.600 Because a house will generally appreciate.

00:29:30.120 So you're making money on that, where with a car, you're losing money.

00:29:36.080 Now the government is selling bonds.

00:29:39.320 And that means that it goes to people, you know, like you, me, big corporations, even banks.

00:29:46.560 And they say, buy a U.S. Treasury bond.

00:29:50.340 Buy a savings bond.

00:29:52.200 Okay.

00:29:52.840 That's buying their debt.

00:29:56.220 That's giving the government the loan for their debt.

00:29:59.540 What are you getting for that loan, for that trillion dollars?

00:30:04.700 Can you tell me today, what have we purchased in the last 10 years that we're proud of, that is appreciated,

00:30:16.520 that is really, you look at it and go, wow, but yeah, but we got that.

00:30:20.500 Can you?

00:30:21.200 Because I can't.

00:30:22.020 F-35s, only 25 of them are mission capable.

00:30:26.200 25% are mission capable.

00:30:29.160 That's it.

00:30:32.300 What have we built?

00:30:36.640 You know, I keep hearing about infrastructure.

00:30:38.900 I hear about it every two to four years.

00:30:41.040 We got to have this X number of dollar for infrastructure.

00:30:44.060 But I don't ever see our infrastructure really getting better.

00:30:47.360 Do you?

00:30:47.740 I don't see things where I'm like, wow, look at that.

00:30:56.100 I don't.

00:30:57.480 And here's the problem.

00:30:59.260 Every time, for every trillion dollars that people take, because what they're doing is they're taking their money

00:31:06.360 and they're giving that to the government instead of investing that in a company that actually is building something,

00:31:15.420 making something.

00:31:17.960 Instead of investing it in the private sector, they're giving that loan to the government,

00:31:24.580 which creates nothing.

00:31:26.880 In fact, every one trillion dollars that we take in bonds, that reduces our GDP, every one trillion, by 0.28%.

00:31:39.320 So about 30%.

00:31:41.860 So that means every trillion dollars, we're losing almost a point off our GDP because the government isn't making something.

00:31:54.800 And we're taking this money and instead of investing in a new factory or a new idea,

00:32:01.860 we invest it in garbage.

00:32:07.800 So we're going to issue almost $4 trillion just this year.

00:32:16.000 That's a point off our GDP.

00:32:21.660 If we do it again next year, that's two points off our GDP.

00:32:26.760 Do you see what's happening?

00:32:28.180 We're destroying ourselves.

00:32:31.140 Destroying ourselves.

00:32:32.300 And we're doing it because the average person is saying and has been saying for a long time,

00:32:40.760 stop spending so much money.

00:32:45.220 But for some reason, the only thing I can think of is that everybody's on the take.

00:32:51.720 Everybody's getting rich.

00:32:53.000 Nobody in Washington wants to stop spending money.

00:32:58.860 And those who do want to stop spending so much money,

00:33:02.100 they're the ones that are called extremists.

00:33:05.460 This wouldn't work in your own home.

00:33:08.760 Why would you expect it to work here?

00:33:11.940 And the old idea that, well, we have a big economy,

00:33:15.120 and so, you know, we're going to, we can have a big debt.

00:33:20.680 Not this big.

00:33:22.180 Not this big.

00:33:24.340 If you had a, if you had a big loan for your house,

00:33:29.180 and it was on an adjustable mortgage,

00:33:32.240 what would everyone in your family be saying right now?

00:33:37.580 Sell this damn thing,

00:33:39.420 because it's only going to get worse with your adjustable mortgage.

00:33:42.840 If things get worse, you're going to go bankrupt.

00:33:46.240 Well, the United States of America,

00:33:49.100 because we sell bonds and they're short-term bonds,

00:33:52.940 that's an adjustable mortgage.

00:33:56.360 And the house we've purchased,

00:33:59.320 it has very little value,

00:34:02.540 because it doesn't do anything.

00:34:05.580 We didn't actually buy anything.

00:34:08.060 Many times we're just paying for people to do what?

00:34:11.500 Create more paperwork,

00:34:14.140 so you and I have to pay for more accountants,

00:34:19.100 or more lawyers,

00:34:20.660 which doesn't create anything to the bottom line of the GDP.

00:34:26.320 This is how you destroy a nation.

00:34:30.580 And Gen Zers, 0.98

00:34:31.940 you need to get serious about your own education on economies,

00:34:37.060 what works, what doesn't.

00:34:38.600 Because you're the ones that are going to have to save it.

00:34:43.300 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:34:46.780 John Daniel Davidson,

00:34:48.680 pagan America,

00:34:49.820 the decline of Christianity,

00:34:51.440 and the dark age to come.

00:34:53.660 Let me just tell you,

00:34:54.540 there's a couple of signs of hope,

00:34:57.560 and I'd like John to address some of this as we go along.

00:35:02.800 First of all,

00:35:03.920 here's Donald Trump two days ago.

00:35:05.720 And what the hell was Biden thinking

00:35:08.720 when he declared Easter Sunday

00:35:10.900 to be Trans Visibility Day? 0.72

00:35:17.560 Such total disrespect to Christians, 1.00

00:35:20.760 and November 5th is going to be called something else.

00:35:24.220 You know,

00:35:24.380 it's going to be called Christian Visibility Day 0.59

00:35:27.540 when Christians turn out in numbers 1.00

00:35:29.580 that nobody has ever seen before.

00:35:32.180 Then we also had this come out over the weekend.

00:35:37.260 Here's Richard Dawkins,

00:35:38.940 very famous atheist,

00:35:41.220 not proclaiming Christianity as his belief.

00:35:46.520 But listen to what he says.

00:35:48.360 I do think that we are culturally a Christian country.

00:35:51.920 I call myself a cultural Christian.

00:35:54.380 I'm not a believer.

00:35:55.340 But there's a distinction between being a believing Christian

00:35:58.720 and being a cultural Christian.

00:36:00.140 And so,

00:36:00.720 you know,

00:36:00.960 I love hymns and Christmas carols,

00:36:03.340 and

00:36:03.540 I sort of feel at home

00:36:07.100 in the Christian ethos.

00:36:08.940 If I had to choose between Christianity and Islam, 0.99

00:36:11.220 I'd choose Christianity every single time.

00:36:14.040 I mean,

00:36:14.300 it seems to me to be

00:36:15.480 a fundamentally decent religion

00:36:17.920 in a way that I think Islam is not. 0.98

00:36:20.620 Forget about the Islam part. 1.00

00:36:23.800 The culture of our country

00:36:26.080 is based on Christianity.

00:36:29.020 So let's bring John in about pagan America.

00:36:31.960 We are a Christian nation.

00:36:34.040 You believe that?

00:36:35.720 I believe we were.

00:36:37.120 I don't think we are now.

00:36:38.440 I think we're entering a post-Christian era 1.00

00:36:40.300 for America and for the West.

00:36:42.300 So that kind of sounds bad

00:36:44.280 if you listen to Richard Dawkins.

00:36:47.340 Yeah, absolutely.

00:36:48.380 Richard Dawkins should know better, right?

00:36:50.380 You can't have the culture without the cult.

00:36:53.820 You can't have Christianity 1.00

00:36:55.360 as a cultural force,

00:36:58.120 as a force that shapes the public square

00:37:00.060 and forms the character of the people

00:37:01.700 without the actual religion behind it,

00:37:03.740 people who believe.

00:37:05.380 Elsewhere in that clip that you played,

00:37:07.440 he said,

00:37:08.100 now I understand that the number of believing Christians

00:37:10.600 are going down in this country,

00:37:12.080 and I think that's a good thing.

00:37:14.240 What does he think is going to happen

00:37:15.640 to all the cathedrals

00:37:16.640 and all the parish churches?

00:37:18.200 They're going to turn into mosques 1.00

00:37:19.620 in the case of Britain

00:37:20.960 or apartments or nightclubs.

00:37:23.580 So what happens to us?

00:37:26.580 We become pagan,

00:37:27.940 and part of the claim of the book

00:37:29.660 is that there's really only one alternative

00:37:31.160 to Christianity,

00:37:31.900 which is paganism.

00:37:33.640 Now, I don't mean that we're going to have

00:37:34.920 temples to Zeus and Apollo

00:37:36.720 popping up in Times Square

00:37:38.180 or a surge of witchcraft,

00:37:40.340 although we are seeing that surge.

00:37:42.300 What I mean is that our public life,

00:37:45.900 our communal life as a nation and a people

00:37:48.100 is going to be defined by the pagan ethos,

00:37:50.620 not the Christian ethos.

00:37:51.960 Which the pagan ethos is what?

00:37:54.640 Nothing is true.

00:37:55.820 Everything is permitted.

00:37:57.580 A radical subjectivity about man,

00:38:00.640 about God,

00:38:01.580 about our natures,

00:38:02.540 about what we can become

00:38:03.520 and what we can do.

00:38:04.880 And so what determines

00:38:06.680 what public policy should be

00:38:08.760 or what determines what is right

00:38:11.080 isn't based on any universal claims

00:38:13.440 about human nature

00:38:15.100 or the image of God,

00:38:19.200 man being created in the image of God.

00:38:21.060 It's based on force and coercion.

00:38:23.380 And that's how pagan societies have always been.

00:38:25.200 That's why they were slave societies. 1.00

00:38:26.960 So pagan societies in the 20th century, 1.00

00:38:30.660 Soviet Union,

00:38:32.160 Germany,

00:38:34.000 post-Christian.

00:38:34.900 Yes, yes, exactly, exactly.

00:38:37.540 And what were they characterizing?

00:38:38.760 Forced by force, coercion,

00:38:41.420 a rejection of human nature,

00:38:43.920 a rejection of the idea of human rights.

00:38:46.400 So you're seeing that everywhere.

00:38:49.260 And this is what led you to

00:38:50.640 the idea that we're post-Christian.

00:38:55.420 Is there any way to turn it around?

00:38:57.740 I don't think there's a way to turn it around

00:38:59.420 in our lifetimes.

00:39:00.540 Let's put it that way.

00:39:01.560 So I don't think that, you know,

00:39:03.680 Christianity will be defeated in the end. 0.99

00:39:06.020 I'm a Roman Catholic myself.

00:39:07.620 And so I believe in the permanency of the church

00:39:11.200 and of the Christian faith

00:39:12.460 and victory in the end.

00:39:13.580 But this is a generational struggle.

00:39:15.640 It's been centuries now

00:39:16.880 that Christianity has been declining in the West

00:39:19.560 and has really accelerated

00:39:21.260 since the middle of the last century.

00:39:22.960 And I don't think that it's going to be turned around

00:39:25.080 in our lifetimes

00:39:26.000 and maybe not even in our children's lifetimes.

00:39:28.020 But there are things that we can do

00:39:29.980 to sort of preserve the flame

00:39:31.480 and rebuild amid the ruins.

00:39:34.620 Like what?

00:39:35.280 Transmit the faith to our children. 0.87

00:39:37.140 Carve out spaces for our churches and communities.

00:39:39.780 And this is the important part.

00:39:40.920 We don't retreat into those communities.

00:39:42.840 We find and fight on ground we can win.

00:39:45.720 Now that may mean moving out of large cities

00:39:47.620 that are lost.

00:39:48.700 And it also may mean getting involved

00:39:50.560 at the local level

00:39:51.520 to take back your school district,

00:39:53.100 take back your library,

00:39:54.120 take back your city council,

00:39:57.260 you know,

00:39:57.600 and bring the faith,

00:39:59.620 the Christian faith,

00:40:00.420 back into the public square

00:40:01.600 where it was for most of our history as a country.

00:40:04.220 You know, I've been saying for a long time now,

00:40:06.220 I think it's really important that,

00:40:08.220 and I don't like this

00:40:09.320 because I don't want to segregate us.

00:40:12.400 I don't want, you know,

00:40:14.260 two separate Americas.

00:40:15.980 But I think because of the battle

00:40:17.980 that we're in right now,

00:40:19.540 I think it's important

00:40:21.820 to be in like-minded communities.

00:40:24.120 Especially religiously speaking.

00:40:26.920 And I don't mean all of the same religion.

00:40:28.840 I mean that they are Judeo-Christian 0.96

00:40:30.760 value-driven communities.

00:40:35.740 Because we,

00:40:37.540 if you're not in that community

00:40:40.040 and you are not surrounded by the people

00:40:41.960 with the same kind of ethics and ethos,

00:40:46.360 you could very well be into a community

00:40:49.260 that goes wrong on either side,

00:40:52.000 on either right or left,

00:40:53.540 and goes into darkness quickly.

00:40:57.020 Do you agree with that?

00:40:57.720 You also get lulled into a sense of complacency,

00:41:00.120 right?

00:41:00.540 That things are okay.

00:41:02.500 It's not as bad as it seems.

00:41:04.540 Part of the, you know,

00:41:06.460 arresting title and subtitle

00:41:07.960 and the cover of the book,

00:41:09.160 which has a burning church on it,

00:41:10.620 is to wake people up,

00:41:11.880 to get people to accept

00:41:13.240 that this is happening.

00:41:14.760 We're living in a post-Christian society. 0.99

00:41:16.920 Christianity is not going to be the dominant force 0.98

00:41:20.500 in the public life of America moving forward,

00:41:23.180 as it has been,

00:41:24.300 as I said,

00:41:24.800 for most of our history.

00:41:25.920 We're going to become a pagan country. 0.99

00:41:28.540 And that means that Christians are going to become 1.00

00:41:30.360 a persecuted minority,

00:41:31.620 as they always have been in pagan societies.

00:41:33.600 Well, wouldn't you say

00:41:34.320 that we're already really kind of there?

00:41:35.880 It's not as bad as it probably will be.

00:41:39.260 But we're already there.

00:41:40.500 Look, if you're pro-life,

00:41:42.080 you're toast.

00:41:43.420 Yeah.

00:41:44.060 The number of things

00:41:45.320 that you can't publicly disagree with

00:41:47.520 or dispute

00:41:48.200 is growing seemingly by the week, right?

00:41:50.880 You have to accept

00:41:51.740 that Easter is really trans day of visibility.

00:41:54.740 You have to accept

00:41:55.620 that abortion is a positive good, 0.99

00:41:57.680 not just safe, legal, and rare,

00:41:59.060 but it's a positive good

00:42:00.060 that's necessary

00:42:00.920 to vindicate the rights of women.

00:42:03.480 You can't question gay marriage anymore.

00:42:05.380 That ship sailed a long time ago.

00:42:07.800 So these are things

00:42:08.780 that are part of what I call

00:42:11.060 the pagan morality

00:42:12.640 or the state morality

00:42:13.820 of the new pagan regime.

00:42:16.540 And there is no dissent allowed on these things

00:42:19.500 because dissent,

00:42:20.980 tolerance in the public square,

00:42:22.400 freedom of speech,

00:42:23.660 that's a Christian virtue.

00:42:25.280 That's a luxury

00:42:26.080 that only a Christian society can afford. 0.97

00:42:28.320 Has there been any pagan countries

00:42:33.400 that have lasted?

00:42:36.500 I mean, I know Soviet Union, 80 years, 0.86

00:42:38.840 but has there been any modern pagan

00:42:41.080 that just don't eat themselves?

00:42:45.260 Well, no.

00:42:45.920 And the thing that always happens

00:42:48.160 to pagan societies

00:42:49.080 when they encounter Christianity,

00:42:50.840 going back through history,

00:42:52.840 Christianity is the only thing 1.00

00:42:54.060 that breaks the pagan stranglehold 0.82

00:42:56.300 on a people across geography,

00:42:58.760 across time,

00:43:00.840 across cultures.

00:43:02.060 It was the encounter with Christianity 0.96

00:43:03.540 that broke these pagan societies 1.00

00:43:05.360 because it proposed

00:43:06.660 a radically new way

00:43:07.660 of conceiving of man

00:43:09.320 and our relationship to God

00:43:11.220 and one another

00:43:11.920 and how we should organize society.

00:43:14.240 And as Christianity retreats, 0.93

00:43:16.960 that paganism,

00:43:17.860 that pagan ethos

00:43:18.720 that's simmering

00:43:19.520 just below the surface

00:43:20.640 is going to come back

00:43:22.280 in modern forms,

00:43:23.500 in modern iterations

00:43:24.300 as it did in Nazi Germany,

00:43:25.760 as it did in the Soviet Union.

00:43:27.620 And those were periods

00:43:28.720 where there was sort of

00:43:29.480 this illusion of like

00:43:30.840 of atheism

00:43:32.100 and of secularism.

00:43:33.740 That's,

00:43:34.160 we're shedding that

00:43:35.380 pretty quickly.

00:43:36.380 This idea that the future

00:43:37.440 is going to be

00:43:37.940 the secular liberal utopia

00:43:39.880 is totally wrong.

00:43:41.680 Well, I think wokeism

00:43:42.580 is a religion.

00:43:44.040 I mean,

00:43:44.320 it's a form of paganism.

00:43:45.420 Yeah, it has,

00:43:46.360 it's high priests.

00:43:47.820 You can easily be excommunicated.

00:43:50.300 It has its rituals.

00:43:52.020 Yeah.

00:43:52.160 It has things you must do

00:43:54.200 and must never do.

00:43:55.760 It's the opposite of Christianity. 0.99

00:43:57.580 There is no forgiveness.

00:43:59.300 Even the high priests

00:44:00.940 can't forgive you

00:44:02.400 unless,

00:44:03.540 you know,

00:44:04.620 you bow down to them.

00:44:06.660 And then only maybe.

00:44:08.080 And then only maybe,

00:44:09.140 depending on who you are.

00:44:10.680 I mean,

00:44:10.940 it is,

00:44:11.780 it's so clearly

00:44:13.720 a religion.

00:44:14.740 why,

00:44:17.680 why call it paganism

00:44:19.440 instead of

00:44:21.580 wokeism?

00:44:23.740 Because I think

00:44:24.800 wokeism,

00:44:26.500 just like

00:44:27.240 atheism

00:44:28.340 or communism

00:44:29.560 is a species

00:44:31.140 of paganism.

00:44:32.200 And that

00:44:32.760 when you

00:44:33.960 really dig into

00:44:35.060 what paganism is

00:44:36.360 and how it works,

00:44:37.580 what we're seeing

00:44:38.520 is a resurgence

00:44:39.420 of paganism

00:44:40.060 in a modern context.

00:44:41.840 And so part of it

00:44:42.480 is a vocabulary problem,

00:44:43.820 right?

00:44:44.060 We're not going to

00:44:45.120 talk about

00:44:46.280 the gods

00:44:47.120 in the same way

00:44:47.860 that ancient

00:44:48.520 pre-Christian peoples 0.98

00:44:49.700 talked about the gods.

00:44:51.280 But we are seeing

00:44:52.120 a growing acceptance

00:44:53.000 of the idea

00:44:53.700 of spiritual forces,

00:44:56.040 a movement away

00:44:57.720 from pure

00:44:58.580 materialist,

00:45:00.360 secular,

00:45:01.620 scientific sort of thinking

00:45:03.080 that denies

00:45:03.800 all supernatural reality,

00:45:05.220 that denies

00:45:05.640 all spiritual reality,

00:45:06.880 especially among young people

00:45:07.900 you see this right now.

00:45:09.160 This admixture 1.00

00:45:10.120 of being secular

00:45:11.080 on the one hand

00:45:11.940 in rejecting

00:45:12.560 organized religion,

00:45:13.500 but being open

00:45:14.620 to spiritual forces

00:45:16.220 and things like

00:45:18.760 identity

00:45:19.300 that are really

00:45:20.400 beyond reason

00:45:21.380 or I would say

00:45:22.440 a disfigurement

00:45:23.260 of reason,

00:45:23.720 which is another

00:45:24.360 hallmark of a pagan society.

00:45:27.180 And we see that

00:45:27.920 everywhere now.

00:45:28.600 So you saying

00:45:31.000 these things,

00:45:31.800 it would be

00:45:32.740 really easy

00:45:33.680 for the left

00:45:34.240 to say,

00:45:34.760 ah,

00:45:36.180 you want,

00:45:37.120 you're a Christian

00:45:37.760 nationalist.

00:45:38.800 You want

00:45:39.800 a Christian

00:45:40.660 country

00:45:41.300 that is

00:45:42.100 run by the church.

00:45:44.560 How do you respond

00:45:45.340 to Christian nationalism?

00:45:47.540 Well,

00:45:47.780 it would be great

00:45:48.540 if it were true.

00:45:49.880 The funny thing

00:45:50.800 about the Christian

00:45:51.440 nationalist

00:45:52.000 debate,

00:45:52.680 as I,

00:45:54.000 as I sort of

00:45:55.020 the argument

00:45:56.020 in my book

00:45:56.660 kind of lays out

00:45:57.620 is that it's

00:45:58.560 the opposite

00:45:59.180 of the case.

00:45:59.700 We're not becoming

00:46:00.240 a Christian

00:46:00.720 nationalist country.

00:46:02.060 I don't even know

00:46:02.960 what that means.

00:46:03.880 I think what they

00:46:04.860 mean by that

00:46:05.440 is that they

00:46:05.820 don't want

00:46:06.160 Christianity

00:46:06.560 to have any

00:46:07.340 influence

00:46:07.840 on our

00:46:08.740 national life

00:46:09.660 and on the

00:46:10.260 public square,

00:46:10.940 as was the case

00:46:12.580 for our entire

00:46:13.800 history up until

00:46:14.920 the middle

00:46:15.440 of the last

00:46:15.940 century.

00:46:17.360 But the idea

00:46:18.160 that Christian

00:46:18.800 nationalists

00:46:19.500 are somehow

00:46:19.940 ascendant

00:46:20.620 or that

00:46:21.340 Christians

00:46:21.660 are somehow

00:46:22.260 gaining power

00:46:23.280 and influence

00:46:23.900 in the United

00:46:24.460 States

00:46:24.860 is a joke.

00:46:26.220 And when you

00:46:26.520 look at the

00:46:26.960 demographic data

00:46:27.880 and you look

00:46:28.400 at the decline

00:46:29.060 in church

00:46:29.980 affiliation

00:46:30.620 and church

00:46:31.020 attendance,

00:46:31.880 you look at

00:46:32.340 how...

00:46:33.280 It's plummeting.

00:46:34.060 Yeah,

00:46:34.420 on every metric

00:46:35.360 across the board.

00:46:36.280 So it's a weird

00:46:37.780 argument to make

00:46:38.720 at a time

00:46:39.300 when Christianity

00:46:39.800 has never been

00:46:40.480 weaker in the

00:46:41.060 United States.

00:46:41.840 But there is,

00:46:43.060 there are those

00:46:43.980 that do want

00:46:45.100 a,

00:46:45.780 I mean,

00:46:45.960 they're very

00:46:46.500 fringe,

00:46:47.060 fringe,

00:46:47.340 fringe,

00:46:47.640 fringe,

00:46:47.920 fringe.

00:46:48.740 But they do

00:46:49.920 want a religious

00:46:51.280 state.

00:46:52.080 And that,

00:46:52.680 I don't think

00:46:53.280 that's what

00:46:53.820 you would want

00:46:54.900 when you said

00:46:55.540 it would be

00:46:55.920 great if it

00:46:56.360 were true.

00:46:57.060 I don't think

00:46:57.780 it would be

00:46:58.220 great if it

00:46:58.780 were true.

00:46:59.440 I want the

00:47:00.460 Constitution

00:47:01.000 and the Bill

00:47:01.760 of Rights.

00:47:02.320 But I want

00:47:03.480 the people

00:47:04.400 to regulate

00:47:08.300 themselves.

00:47:09.640 And,

00:47:09.960 you know,

00:47:10.420 as Franklin

00:47:11.380 and Jefferson

00:47:11.960 said,

00:47:13.000 the best way

00:47:14.320 to regulate

00:47:15.000 yourself

00:47:15.660 is through

00:47:17.160 religion,

00:47:18.080 through

00:47:18.340 Christianity.

00:47:19.680 Well,

00:47:19.720 you had

00:47:19.960 John Adams

00:47:20.440 famous line

00:47:21.200 that our

00:47:21.780 Constitution

00:47:22.380 was meant

00:47:22.980 for only

00:47:23.320 immoral and

00:47:23.840 religious people.

00:47:24.580 It's unfit

00:47:25.000 for any

00:47:25.420 other.

00:47:26.700 But,

00:47:27.180 you know,

00:47:27.380 it really

00:47:27.900 is true 0.89

00:47:28.520 that,

00:47:28.960 you know,

00:47:29.560 Remy Bragg,

00:47:30.180 the French

00:47:30.500 philosopher,

00:47:30.920 said in the

00:47:31.440 1990s,

00:47:32.080 talking about

00:47:32.580 Europe,

00:47:32.980 that European 0.99

00:47:33.460 civilization,

00:47:34.920 you know,

00:47:35.680 is a product

00:47:37.040 not of

00:47:38.400 calculation,

00:47:40.280 but of

00:47:40.560 faith.

00:47:40.900 So,

00:47:41.260 you need

00:47:41.520 actual

00:47:42.100 Christian

00:47:42.620 belief,

00:47:43.620 you know,

00:47:43.800 contra Richard

00:47:44.500 Dawkins.

00:47:45.260 You can't

00:47:45.900 just have

00:47:46.240 the principles.

00:47:47.200 They rely

00:47:47.800 as their

00:47:48.560 source of

00:47:49.140 vitality on

00:47:49.960 an active

00:47:50.400 faith among

00:47:50.960 the people.

00:47:51.920 So,

00:47:52.140 if we

00:47:52.580 actually had

00:47:53.520 a critical

00:47:54.060 mass of

00:47:54.580 believing,

00:47:55.240 practicing

00:47:55.560 Christians in 0.99

00:47:56.200 this country,

00:47:56.820 we would

00:47:57.520 have things

00:47:58.020 like free

00:47:59.100 speech,

00:48:00.100 tolerance,

00:48:01.200 an open

00:48:01.560 public square,

00:48:03.200 human rights

00:48:03.820 and respect

00:48:04.280 for everybody,

00:48:05.320 the things

00:48:05.800 that are

00:48:06.060 disappearing

00:48:06.600 right now

00:48:07.280 under an

00:48:08.700 ascendant and

00:48:09.320 emerging pagan

00:48:10.000 regime.

00:48:11.100 The name

00:48:11.300 of the

00:48:11.500 book is

00:48:11.880 Pagan

00:48:12.320 America,

00:48:13.220 the decline

00:48:13.660 of Christianity

00:48:14.240 in the dark

00:48:14.940 age to come.

00:48:15.780 You know,

00:48:15.960 I hear from

00:48:16.440 people all

00:48:16.940 the time,

00:48:17.400 well,

00:48:17.640 it's never

00:48:18.080 going to

00:48:18.260 get that

00:48:18.620 bad.

00:48:18.980 I mean,

00:48:19.360 it's,

00:48:19.680 you know,

00:48:19.860 it's never

00:48:20.300 been like

00:48:20.800 that and

00:48:21.280 it's never

00:48:21.680 going to

00:48:21.920 get that

00:48:22.400 bad.

00:48:24.020 Clearly

00:48:24.460 not true,

00:48:25.660 John.

00:48:27.180 We're in a

00:48:27.900 different place

00:48:28.460 than we've

00:48:28.800 ever been

00:48:29.340 before.

00:48:30.160 So,

00:48:30.720 give me

00:48:30.940 some hope.

00:48:31.600 What can

00:48:32.440 be done?

00:48:34.220 The last

00:48:34.680 chapter of

00:48:35.340 the book

00:48:35.620 is titled

00:48:36.000 The Boniface

00:48:36.680 Option,

00:48:37.320 and it's

00:48:37.700 a loving

00:48:38.440 dig at

00:48:39.080 Rod Dreher's

00:48:39.660 The Benedict

00:48:40.000 Option,

00:48:40.580 which came

00:48:40.960 out in

00:48:41.200 2016.

00:48:42.620 And one

00:48:43.060 of the

00:48:43.180 things that

00:48:43.560 Dreher

00:48:43.920 argued for

00:48:44.960 was to

00:48:45.640 build up

00:48:46.320 your local

00:48:46.720 communities,

00:48:47.520 your local

00:48:47.980 churches,

00:48:48.640 your home

00:48:49.040 schools,

00:48:50.020 your family

00:48:50.760 communities,

00:48:51.760 and sort

00:48:52.640 of build

00:48:53.000 an arc

00:48:53.460 to survive

00:48:54.340 the storms

00:48:54.860 to come.

00:48:55.820 And one

00:48:56.160 of the

00:48:56.280 things I

00:48:56.540 push back

00:48:57.020 on a

00:48:57.760 little bit

00:48:58.220 is the

00:48:58.860 idea that

00:48:59.300 we can

00:48:59.600 just build

00:49:00.180 arcs and

00:49:00.780 kind of

00:49:01.160 hunker

00:49:01.900 down and

00:49:02.480 survive.

00:49:03.160 We have

00:49:03.760 to push

00:49:04.220 forward and

00:49:05.260 we have to

00:49:05.720 push 0.64

00:49:06.080 Christianity

00:49:06.940 out back

00:49:07.960 into the

00:49:08.340 public square

00:49:08.980 where it

00:49:09.500 was and

00:49:10.180 where it

00:49:10.520 belongs as

00:49:11.560 a testament

00:49:12.060 to the

00:49:12.440 faith.

00:49:13.100 I think

00:49:13.400 there is

00:49:13.940 hope in

00:49:14.860 this sense

00:49:15.460 as people

00:49:16.420 shed their

00:49:17.740 sort of

00:49:18.520 strict

00:49:18.940 materialist

00:49:19.760 worldview

00:49:20.260 and are

00:49:21.960 open to

00:49:22.960 the idea

00:49:23.660 of spiritual

00:49:24.320 forces,

00:49:25.180 there's an

00:49:25.780 opportunity for

00:49:26.560 Christians to 0.88

00:49:27.240 proclaim their

00:49:27.940 faith publicly

00:49:28.720 again and

00:49:29.760 proclaim it

00:49:30.480 to people

00:49:31.960 who maybe

00:49:32.420 are more

00:49:32.880 open than

00:49:34.100 they were

00:49:34.740 a generation

00:49:35.580 ago when

00:49:36.560 secular

00:49:37.400 liberalism

00:49:38.140 seemed

00:49:38.740 triumphant

00:49:40.700 and it

00:49:41.380 seemed like

00:49:41.780 the future

00:49:42.200 was going

00:49:42.600 to be

00:49:42.900 this

00:49:43.180 atheist

00:49:43.760 cold

00:49:44.660 rationalistic

00:49:45.560 world.

00:49:46.220 That's not

00:49:47.000 the world

00:49:47.400 that's

00:49:47.760 emerging

00:49:48.620 right now.

00:49:49.640 And so

00:49:49.980 there's

00:49:50.200 real battles

00:49:52.800 to fight

00:49:53.360 with real

00:49:54.160 spiritual

00:49:54.620 forces.

00:49:55.800 And Christians 0.95

00:49:56.240 need to

00:49:56.860 sort of

00:49:57.320 put on

00:49:58.080 their armor

00:49:58.560 and get

00:49:59.440 ready to

00:50:00.480 fight for

00:50:01.120 their faith

00:50:01.680 by like I

00:50:02.480 said earlier

00:50:02.960 taking back

00:50:03.800 your schools

00:50:04.320 taking back

00:50:05.000 your city

00:50:05.400 halls

00:50:05.960 taking back

00:50:06.800 your towns

00:50:07.360 but also

00:50:08.920 be prepared

00:50:09.800 to proclaim

00:50:10.440 the faith

00:50:11.020 publicly

00:50:11.600 and pay

00:50:12.900 a cost

00:50:14.100 for it

00:50:14.520 right.

00:50:14.820 There was a

00:50:15.180 long period

00:50:15.860 in this

00:50:16.200 country where

00:50:16.740 Christians

00:50:17.480 and the

00:50:17.860 state

00:50:18.160 were kind

00:50:18.660 of you

00:50:19.140 know on

00:50:19.360 the same

00:50:19.720 side

00:50:20.200 and Christians

00:50:21.560 enjoyed a

00:50:22.480 kind of

00:50:22.900 deference

00:50:23.580 and privilege

00:50:24.240 that they

00:50:24.720 didn't through

00:50:25.220 much of our

00:50:25.740 history.

00:50:26.780 That's coming

00:50:27.200 to an end

00:50:27.800 and we need

00:50:28.280 to wrap our

00:50:28.780 minds around

00:50:29.560 that.

00:50:30.260 We need to

00:50:30.600 steal our

00:50:31.220 nerves

00:50:31.640 and we

00:50:32.260 need to

00:50:32.760 take heart

00:50:33.780 in the

00:50:34.120 truth of

00:50:34.480 our faith

00:50:35.000 and the

00:50:36.380 sucker

00:50:36.940 and the

00:50:37.300 strength

00:50:37.560 that it

00:50:37.780 gives us.

00:50:38.340 And that

00:50:38.500 only gets

00:50:39.200 stronger

00:50:41.380 Christians

00:50:42.540 stronger people

00:50:43.700 of faith

00:50:44.220 when they

00:50:44.960 really have

00:50:45.480 to struggle

00:50:45.880 with it.

00:50:46.220 That's our

00:50:46.520 problem.

00:50:46.920 We haven't

00:50:47.240 had to

00:50:47.520 struggle

00:50:47.740 with our

00:50:48.080 faith

00:50:48.300 for so

00:50:48.680 long.

00:50:49.520 It's just

00:50:49.860 like yeah

00:50:50.280 I'm sure

00:50:51.580 I believe

00:50:52.160 in God.

00:50:52.960 You wouldn't

00:50:53.440 say it

00:50:54.040 out loud

00:50:54.820 many times

00:50:55.580 but now

00:50:57.220 that you're

00:50:57.880 starting to be

00:50:58.480 pushed you're

00:50:59.400 seeing more

00:50:59.880 and more

00:51:00.200 people

00:51:00.660 talk about

00:51:01.840 it openly.

00:51:02.920 Thank you so

00:51:03.400 much for being

00:51:04.040 in here.

00:51:04.660 It's

00:51:04.920 Pagan America 0.83

00:51:06.000 The Decline

00:51:06.720 of Christianity

00:51:07.460 and the Dark

00:51:08.380 Age to Come

00:51:09.240 John Daniel

00:51:10.320 Davidson.

00:51:10.820 Na na na na na

00:51:12.960 na na na

00:51:13.060 na na na

00:51:14.860 na na na na

00:51:15.640 na na na na na na na

The Glenn Beck Program - April 04, 2024

Best of the Program ｜ Guest： John Daniel Davidson ｜ 4⧸4⧸24

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