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00:00:00.000 Welcome to the podcast. Today we have, we look deep into the bill that they're trying to pass for a couple trillion dollars.

00:00:06.840 What's in it and what is the process that's going to go forward.

00:00:10.240 We have Pat Gray on the program. He is talking about the media and the way they're handling this.

00:00:17.060 And Bill O'Reilly gets into that a little bit as well today when he comes on.

00:00:20.440 Talk about guns in the coronavirus era. Are they essential? Are gun stores essential businesses?

00:00:26.760 And I feel like they are. And we get into a lot more as well.

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00:00:58.320 Here's today's version.

00:01:06.480 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:10.540 Our coronavirus update for Friday.

00:01:20.140 If you look at our coronavirus update, every every stat is locked in at 530 in the morning.

00:01:25.460 Central time from John Hopkins University.

00:01:28.040 Total confirmed cases worldwide.

00:01:31.300 542,000.

00:01:33.340 That is up from 486.

00:01:37.540 That's quite a jump.

00:01:39.700 Total confirmed deaths worldwide.

00:01:41.740 Up 24,000.

00:01:43.460 Only 2,000 worldwide.

00:01:46.160 Total confirmed recovered worldwide.

00:01:48.420 125.

00:01:49.880 Up from 117.

00:01:51.760 5% cases are considered serious.

00:01:54.900 Up from 4% yesterday.

00:01:57.540 7% of confirmed cases here in the United States, however, do require hospitalization.

00:02:03.360 The U.S. has 85,000 confirmed cases.

00:02:07.040 1,304 deaths.

00:02:09.280 Up from 65,000 cases.

00:02:11.900 And 1,000 deaths yesterday.

00:02:14.140 So up about 300.

00:02:15.760 United States of America now leads the world in total confirmed cases.

00:02:20.880 With 4,409 more cases than China.

00:02:25.440 We have officially 1,800 official recovered against the 1,300 rounding the numbers off on deaths.

00:02:32.540 So the big news yesterday was after terrifying the world governments into committing financial suicide, the U.K. scientist has reduced his death forecast by 95%.

00:02:46.940 Now, Stu is the guy that I trust with all of the stats and everything else.

00:02:51.920 I asked him at the time that Al Gore came out with his global warming movie.

00:02:56.660 I said, I'm going to go see his movie.

00:02:58.320 I'm going to go do my own research.

00:02:59.960 And Stu was like, oh, dear God, no.

00:03:03.640 I came out of that and I had a pretty good idea of where I stood on it.

00:03:10.360 But I said, Stu, I want you to look at these stats, look at these facts, and tear them apart.

00:03:15.920 Show me where it's wrong.

00:03:17.980 I'm going to say, I don't know.

00:03:20.340 I believe them.

00:03:21.780 I'm not acting on them.

00:03:23.180 But I want to see them proven or disproven.

00:03:26.560 And that's what Stu really does best.

00:03:30.060 You've read what he wrote.

00:03:33.880 I've read what he wrote.

00:03:35.520 Is it fair to say he's not recanting?

00:03:42.560 He's pointing out that the lower part of his scale is accurate.

00:03:47.860 Yeah.

00:03:48.000 It's been reported almost everywhere that he recanted his initial 260,000 people were going

00:03:53.500 to die in Britain sort of projections.

00:03:55.580 And now he's saying 20,000.

00:03:57.300 So that would be reasonable to note that difference.

00:04:00.200 It's pretty major.

00:04:00.800 However, I think part of this is just a reporting issue.

00:04:05.700 If you read his study, what he says is he gives two different approaches.

00:04:11.600 He gives more than that.

00:04:12.800 But the two that we're focusing on, the two approaches were mitigation and suppression.

00:04:16.920 Okay.

00:04:17.900 Mitigation is sort of like the approach that has been sort of the alternative approach.

00:04:23.980 A lot of people on the right have suggested where you would isolation of suspect cases,

00:04:30.380 home quarantine of those who are living in the household of suspect cases, social distancing

00:04:36.380 of the elderly and other risk cases, right?

00:04:39.800 So not what we're doing now, but that kind of alternative approach where the elderly and

00:04:44.820 the sick would be isolated.

00:04:46.580 Anyone who might have the disease would be isolated, but other people would be able to

00:04:50.100 kind of go about things a little bit more normally.

00:04:52.260 That's mitigation.

00:04:54.220 Suppression is kind of what we're doing now, which is everybody's social distances.

00:04:58.280 You know, we isolate anyone who has it.

00:05:02.580 We isolate the household of people who have it.

00:05:05.540 We close schools.

00:05:07.380 We close universities and everything like that.

00:05:09.320 Much closer to what we're doing and what Britain's doing.

00:05:11.660 The way I took his comments, and I think is what he's saying, is Britain has now implemented

00:05:17.420 the suppression strategy.

00:05:19.640 Which was his most draconian.

00:05:21.600 Right.

00:05:22.080 And that one, his death count was 20,000.

00:05:25.180 Exactly what he put in the study.

00:05:26.620 So what he's saying is, we've now implemented the thing I thought we should implement, and

00:05:32.060 now the death count is going to be a lot lower.

00:05:33.980 He's not saying, oopsie doopsie, I said 260 last time, and now it's only 20.

00:05:38.920 They changed strategies in that meantime.

00:05:41.000 But Great Britain hadn't, right, but they hadn't really been in that lockdown for more than

00:05:47.320 a couple of days.

00:05:48.060 Right, but what he says, yeah.

00:05:49.060 So I mean.

00:05:49.460 No, it's true.

00:05:50.100 And that's, he's saying that the peak of this would be in two to three weeks, which

00:05:55.760 is how long he said the suppression strategy would take to actually go into effect.

00:06:01.700 So it is, again, I don't, I'm not defending his analysis here.

00:06:05.680 I think he's off base, and I don't believe the worst case scenario.

00:06:10.580 So I'm not saying he's right on this.

00:06:12.180 I'm just saying I don't think he recanted it.

00:06:13.780 He, he is, he's trying to walk this line, which he did outline pretty clearly in the

00:06:18.240 study between these two different approaches.

00:06:21.040 I still think, I mean, I, we said this from the very beginning.

00:06:24.280 I think there's two major problems here.

00:06:26.060 One, you know, I think his estimates are, you know, sky is falling type estimates, but

00:06:32.040 I mean, I, I'm not in this field.

00:06:33.480 I'm sure he knows more about it than I do, obviously.

00:06:36.680 Secondarily, though, there's a real problem with us and the entire world seemingly basing all

00:06:42.080 of our decisions on this one model.

00:06:44.480 And I think what we've, it just, it's just, you know, anybody, even if, you know, like

00:06:48.600 the most honest person with, with the most information might not be right.

00:06:52.780 And you can don't blame these things usually on one model.

00:06:54.860 And it seems to be this model is what scared the hell out of everybody, which is why we

00:06:58.300 made these drastic changes.

00:06:59.740 But to his point, I don't think he recanted it.

00:07:02.520 It really goes to show how we have to be so careful.

00:07:08.380 You know, we were looking at these models for global warming, uh, guys, this one, we

00:07:14.900 at least know right away and we can pull back and adjust global warming.

00:07:20.860 We could spend ourselves into oblivion and have absolutely no idea the effects none because

00:07:27.740 they keep moving the goalposts and keep saying, well, you know, what we did there, that, that

00:07:33.500 worked.

00:07:33.920 And so it's not going to happen for another 25 years.

00:07:36.480 So we're, we're going to have to keep pushing on.

00:07:39.180 I mean, you, you just don't know, at least with this one, we'll know, but it, it shows

00:07:43.740 again how much we don't know.

00:07:46.720 These guys were so absolutely positive.

00:07:50.260 And as I said before, and I, I want to make clear on this, I don't believe that this virus

00:07:58.280 and nor have I ever believed this virus was going to be as deadly as everybody worried.

00:08:02.720 I have not been worried about this virus.

00:08:05.160 I have been worried about overwhelming the healthcare system.

00:08:09.400 We don't want to overwhelm the healthcare system.

00:08:12.660 If we do that, we're into a whole nother kettle of fish that we just don't want to get into.

00:08:17.760 However, as I started to see what it's taking now, $6 trillion, and I think it's actually

00:08:26.720 more than that with what the Fed has done before this, this is just $6 trillion between

00:08:31.540 the Fed and the United States Congress.

00:08:34.100 Those two packages this week were $6 trillion.

00:08:36.960 I bet we're closer to $10 trillion with everything that's been put into this.

00:08:40.280 That's an awful lot of money.

00:08:42.720 And we've got to go back to work to be able to pay for some of this stuff.

00:08:48.400 Now, let me go back to England here for a second.

00:08:51.180 Government guidelines.

00:08:53.600 Government guidelines and everybody separate, including Boris Johnson.

00:08:58.340 But Boris Johnson now has confirmed he has tested positive for COVID-19.

00:09:02.400 Over the last 24 hours, he said, I've developed mild symptoms and tested positive for coronavirus.

00:09:10.760 I'm now self-isolating, but I'll continue to lead the government response via video conference

00:09:15.040 as we fight this virus.

00:09:17.460 His partner, Carrie Simons, is pregnant.

00:09:22.460 She'll also isolate for two weeks.

00:09:24.740 Together, we'll beat this, he said.

00:09:27.600 And in one of the most irresponsible things I've ever seen, news from Mexico, and this 0.99

00:09:35.360 should concern every single American, because Mexicans are going to pay for this and they 1.00

00:09:42.400 are going to start making a run for our border and overwhelm our health care system.

00:09:48.740 And nobody's going to stand up against that in Congress, and they should.

00:09:53.840 Mexicans are making their own bed right now. 1.00

00:09:56.940 And it's going to cost us, possibly our health care system, if we don't guard against it.

00:10:03.960 The governor of the central Mexican state of Puebla told reporters yesterday, you ready?

00:10:11.980 The majority of people that are getting sick, I'm quoting, are wealthy people, you know.

00:10:17.800 If you're rich, you're at risk.

00:10:20.580 But if you're poor, well, no, us poor, we're immune.

00:10:26.940 What?

00:10:29.740 Wait, so does the disease check the tax returns?

00:10:34.220 How exactly is that?

00:10:35.580 Yeah, I'm not sure.

00:10:36.500 I'm not sure.

00:10:38.020 I'm not sure.

00:10:38.780 But how many poor people in Mexico who are not paying attention because their government

00:10:44.200 is not making a big deal out of this are just going along with that and going, yeah,

00:10:49.100 well, that's only a rich person's disease.

00:10:50.980 Yeah, I mean, the one thing that's interesting about this, too, when going back to the projections

00:10:55.140 we were just talking about, we're not going to necessarily know the answer with the UK

00:10:59.080 and the US because we've taken sort of these more drastic steps.

00:11:03.620 Places like Mexico and probably two-thirds of the globe have not.

00:11:07.000 So we will see if this guy's projections wind up being true in places like Mexico and in

00:11:11.720 the Middle East and Africa because these countries haven't done anything.

00:11:18.100 I mean, they're not, many of them are not doing even any testing.

00:11:21.340 You know, Mexico has 300 cases in their country of 129 million people and it's across a border

00:11:27.340 where the most cases are in the world.

00:11:29.560 It's obviously not true and they're just ignoring it at this point and hoping for the best.

00:11:33.260 Here's what we should be doing.

00:11:36.140 We should be having our National Guard stand on the border and have some sort of health

00:11:44.080 care, some sort of health care facility in a tent or something that is on just on the

00:11:51.620 other side of the border.

00:11:52.860 We should work with the Mexicans. 0.92

00:11:54.320 They should pay for it.

00:11:55.800 But I mean, that is going to become a humanitarian crisis and every bleeding heart is going to

00:12:02.820 say, we've got to let them into our hospitals.

00:12:05.640 No, we don't.

00:12:07.880 They've made their bed and they'll swamp our system. 0.95

00:12:12.200 We will.

00:12:12.800 We've already done all of this and we've put ourselves in a situation where we might be

00:12:17.940 in a depression.

00:12:19.560 They did nothing.

00:12:21.600 They did nothing.

00:12:22.580 And we we can offer help and doctors can go down across the border when it starts to

00:12:29.980 hit them, if that's what they want to do.

00:12:32.100 But we cannot have them flooding in and swamping us.

00:12:37.240 I'm sorry.

00:12:38.760 Your country is your lifeboat.

00:12:41.000 You chose incorrectly as a nation.

00:12:44.400 All right.

00:12:48.440 I love this story.

00:12:50.480 Even in a pandemic.

00:12:53.140 Fake meat won't won't sell apparently at grocery stores all across the the country.

00:13:01.820 I've seen these pictures everywhere.

00:13:04.380 Even in a crisis, people will not buy fake hot dogs.

00:13:10.980 I don't I don't know that that's actually true, but because, I mean, they are projected

00:13:17.240 to make, you know, the market is like tripling every single year at the moment for these

00:13:23.280 things.

00:13:23.560 But there's certainly a lot of people who will not buy them no matter what.

00:13:26.060 They'd rather die.

00:13:27.280 Yeah.

00:13:27.800 No, it's those those.

00:13:29.240 You see the pictures of the shelves.

00:13:31.540 Everything's gone.

00:13:33.000 All of the vegan and vegetarian stuff.

00:13:35.900 All that fake meat still sitting there.

00:13:38.820 Everybody's like, man, I'm starving to death.

00:13:40.740 Well, there's that stuff.

00:13:41.960 Not that.

00:13:43.020 That's crazy.

00:13:44.360 What are we?

00:13:45.200 What are we in Somalia?

00:13:46.780 I'm not eating that crap.

00:13:53.300 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

00:14:06.240 Yeah, this is the Glenn Beck program.

00:14:09.440 We're glad you're here.

00:14:10.240 Welcome to Friday.

00:14:11.080 Pat's joining us from Pat Gray Unleashed.

00:14:13.520 Pat, we're just having this conversation back and forth about how we're not sure.

00:14:19.960 I have this feeling that this is going to be like the scientists that were telling us all

00:14:31.860 about global warming because we're kind of like, could be, don't know, yet they panic

00:14:39.100 and say we're all going to die.

00:14:40.640 I still think we're two weeks away from seeing how bad this thing can get, but because we're

00:14:48.600 all staying in or most of us are staying in, we are, you know, we are really slowing the

00:14:54.820 growth down.

00:14:55.460 So we'll never know how bad it could have been.

00:14:57.840 Do you think that we have overreacted at all at all?

00:15:03.060 Oh, yeah.

00:15:03.420 Yeah, I think there's been some overreaction.

00:15:07.180 And what I hate are the dire predictions that, you know, the 2.2 million dead Americans and

00:15:13.500 all that.

00:15:14.700 How does that help in any way at all?

00:15:17.480 It doesn't.

00:15:18.560 It causes people to panic.

00:15:19.940 It hurts the market.

00:15:20.960 And people just lose all sense of reality.

00:15:26.940 Unless it's true.

00:15:28.060 Unless it's true.

00:15:28.980 But even if it is true, even if that's going to happen, why would you tell people that's

00:15:32.760 going to happen?

00:15:33.600 How does that help us?

00:15:34.940 It doesn't.

00:15:36.120 I guess it's to get people to take it seriously, right?

00:15:38.800 Well, I think we're pretty well there already.

00:15:40.720 We've already given up half, three quarters of our liberty.

00:15:43.880 Right, right.

00:15:44.480 Wait a minute.

00:15:44.960 Wait a minute.

00:15:45.260 Is it only me that has friends that are still texting?

00:15:50.160 They're still out going, yeah, I'm having friends.

00:15:53.460 Is no one else having a problem with their friends where you're saying, hey, dude, you

00:15:59.300 guys should take this seriously?

00:16:01.060 I mean, we're all kind of staying at home.

00:16:03.920 Yeah, it's all overblown.

00:16:05.800 It's all.

00:16:06.200 Am I the only one that has friends who are still going out doing things and, you know,

00:16:11.900 going over to friends' houses and I'm the only one?

00:16:16.340 Maybe because I don't know anybody like that.

00:16:19.120 And there's nowhere to go if you were to go.

00:16:21.100 Where were you going to go?

00:16:21.980 They're going to friends' houses and they're doing stuff as friends.

00:16:26.060 Like yesterday.

00:16:27.480 Like yesterday.

00:16:28.240 Yesterday.

00:16:28.920 I went out.

00:16:29.920 My wife and I were like, okay, I got to go take a drive.

00:16:32.880 And I've been working on the remodel of our studio complex.

00:16:37.280 And I'm way behind now because of all this stuff.

00:16:41.940 And we have to do landscaping.

00:16:43.420 And I said, honey, let's just go to that tree farm.

00:16:47.320 And she said, is it open?

00:16:48.980 And I said, I hope not.

00:16:50.120 But we'll just go and we'll walk through it because, you know, it's you can still walk

00:16:54.100 through it even when it's closed.

00:16:55.980 Well, I get there and I turn into the parking lot and it is packed.

00:17:00.680 And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:17:03.460 Let's not park here.

00:17:05.620 So we went around the corner and we just walked through the trees where there was nobody.

00:17:10.100 But that place was packed.

00:17:11.800 People were in close to each other doing stuff, talking to people, buying stuff.

00:17:16.760 I was like, what is happening?

00:17:18.960 I don't see that.

00:17:21.260 I mean, even at the grocery store, everybody's kind of distanced themselves from each other.

00:17:25.480 And I think just because they have their own common sense, they don't have to be told where

00:17:29.300 to stand like some Kroger's have done where they show you where to stand in the checkout

00:17:34.240 line.

00:17:34.680 Yeah, I think I can noodle that out for myself.

00:17:37.200 I'm not going to get, you know, right.

00:17:40.900 Do a little pony back ride on the next guy in front of me.

00:17:45.280 I'm not going to do that.

00:17:46.240 So it's just I if we just exercised our common sense, we wouldn't have to be told exactly

00:17:53.640 what we should be doing and what we shouldn't be doing.

00:17:55.720 I mean, even in Britain, the prime minister, Boris Johnson, just tested positive for this.

00:18:03.200 What has he been doing?

00:18:04.280 You've been out party?

00:18:05.080 He might have been making out with Prince Charles because they both have it.

00:18:08.720 So maybe that's a thing.

00:18:10.320 We now know.

00:18:11.220 We now know.

00:18:12.440 The prince is like, Boris, I confused you with Camilla.

00:18:15.560 You look so much alike.

00:18:16.660 Did you see have you seen any of their press conferences over there?

00:18:24.700 Because even their their podiums, unlike ours, where the president's like, you know, got his

00:18:29.740 arm around people like, hey, we're all in this together and given a press conference where

00:18:34.360 they're all right there in Great Britain, they had the podiums six, seven feet apart.

00:18:42.240 It was bizarre, six or seven feet apart, way across the room from each other.

00:18:47.640 And then this enormous television where the press could ask questions.

00:18:53.300 And they were all in separate rooms, too.

00:18:55.520 I mean, it's it's not like ours.

00:18:58.000 Yeah, we're at all.

00:18:59.760 Well, according to the press, we've taken no precautions whatsoever.

00:19:03.280 I mean, I don't I don't know what they want us to do.

00:19:05.700 I don't want I don't know what they want Trump to mandate.

00:19:08.440 But they're still saying he's rudderless leaderless.

00:19:11.220 He's done nothing.

00:19:13.660 He's handled this poorly.

00:19:15.140 I don't get that sense.

00:19:16.520 I mean, even though, yes, they do do the close contact press conference, but they all know

00:19:21.400 each other doesn't have it because they've all been tested.

00:19:25.100 But I don't know what else you can do in this in this country.

00:19:28.740 I don't know.

00:19:29.160 I go back and forth on this, but I think so far, I think what Trump has done has been

00:19:33.880 the right thing.

00:19:35.260 Right.

00:19:35.440 Like, I think so.

00:19:36.340 Yeah.

00:19:36.540 You know, yeah.

00:19:37.360 Look, it's unlike global warming.

00:19:39.000 She brought up global warming before.

00:19:40.040 And I think this is a good comparison.

00:19:41.820 Global warming is something where they're saying we have to ask act right now because

00:19:45.620 the effect for the effects will be horrible and irreversible in 10 years.

00:19:49.660 And then you go five years in and they say it's going to be in 10 years.

00:19:52.600 That's what it's going to be horrible or irreversible.

00:19:54.180 And they kind of give you this constant moving deadline about what we know in the future.

00:19:58.380 And of course, you know, human nature is long into the future.

00:20:01.980 Here we have a situation where I think there's a lot of reason to believe that perhaps some

00:20:07.460 of these estimates are too aggressive.

00:20:09.640 Right.

00:20:10.720 However, when the the information is going to be available to you as to how bad it is in

00:20:16.820 two weeks, and if the worst case is really bad, if the experts believe this, maybe this

00:20:23.740 is the right step.

00:20:24.760 He said 15 days.

00:20:26.160 Right.

00:20:26.380 And yes, this is really hurting people right now.

00:20:28.640 Obviously, they're going to do this package and hopefully solve some of those wounds.

00:20:33.060 But the bottom line at the end of this is we should know in real in a really close amount

00:20:38.500 of time whether we need to continue this or how aggressively we need to continue it.

00:20:42.760 So, I don't know, everyone's beating up on him because either he went too hard on these

00:20:49.160 15 days or that he's trying to get everybody out into the workforce by Easter and that's

00:20:54.520 crazy.

00:20:55.480 But like, the best thing to do is get the information that is coming in and making the

00:21:00.760 decisions based on that.

00:21:01.780 Right.

00:21:01.940 And it seems that would be what Fauci is saying and Birx is saying, he's reacting to the

00:21:07.580 information on the ground where it looks like maybe it's, you know, like Washington's

00:21:12.060 a great example.

00:21:12.640 It looked like the first big breakout.

00:21:14.720 Then it does not seem like it's been as bad as they would have expected it.

00:21:18.560 So, that's it.

00:21:19.440 That's real information that they're able to take in and say, okay, what went right there

00:21:22.300 and what's going wrong in New York?

00:21:24.620 Right.

00:21:25.240 So, here's the thing.

00:21:28.420 We just don't know what's true and what's not.

00:21:32.600 But when I watched the president yesterday and I've watched it, I watch him every day

00:21:37.160 at five o'clock.

00:21:37.880 It's kind of like, I think, how people felt about my show maybe at five o'clock.

00:21:43.520 It's like appointment television.

00:21:44.720 I watch it every day.

00:21:46.280 You know, my wife is like, hey, president's on. 0.98

00:21:48.140 We're not watching any other show like this.

00:21:50.980 And so, we're watching it yesterday and every single one of them were like, calm down, people.

00:21:58.760 Calm down.

00:22:00.380 And they weren't talking to the American people.

00:22:02.720 They were just talking to the press.

00:22:05.080 The prey, you can't win with the press.

00:22:07.400 You've either done too much or you've done too little.

00:22:10.740 And they can't make up their mind which it's supposed to be.

00:22:15.940 So, they use both, actually.

00:22:17.960 They use both all the time.

00:22:20.180 They do.

00:22:21.120 Yeah.

00:22:21.820 In the same report sometimes, which is bizarre.

00:22:26.800 And I, you know, this is the United States of America.

00:22:29.240 If you think he's done too little, I don't know what you expect him to have done at this point.

00:22:33.900 Yeah.

00:22:34.700 No, I don't either.

00:22:35.760 Short of soldering people into their homes like China did. 1.00

00:22:39.340 Is that what you want?

00:22:41.160 They keep saying that, you know, he's going to open up the, are you really going to open up the country?

00:22:46.600 No, you dummy.

00:22:48.220 Listen to what he's saying.

00:22:49.740 He's saying, for instance, let's go county by county.

00:22:54.720 Let's look at the counties where it's high risk.

00:22:58.040 Let's look at the population.

00:22:59.840 Basically, he's saying the same thing that Cuomo is now saying.

00:23:03.300 We shouldn't have done it like we've done it.

00:23:06.080 We did it because that's all we knew what to do at the time.

00:23:10.140 And now let's relook at things.

00:23:13.320 Let's let's reexamine this and see what what the hell we're doing here.

00:23:18.120 And and and they don't accept that.

00:23:21.200 They just think that he is.

00:23:22.960 He's just going to say it's Easter.

00:23:25.660 Everyone get your butt in church. 0.97

00:23:27.720 I don't care how sick you are.

00:23:30.040 It's crazy.

00:23:32.100 It's just crazy.

00:23:33.480 They described it.

00:23:34.260 I think Fauci described it as his aspirational goal.

00:23:37.900 Right.

00:23:38.700 But he's considering the information as it comes in.

00:23:41.720 And if it's if that goal doesn't make sense, then you it's like my goal.

00:23:45.700 My aspirational goal is to buy a Bugatti.

00:23:47.520 That doesn't mean I'm going to the dealership today.

00:23:49.440 Like you've got to see what the situation is.

00:23:51.340 At some point, maybe I'll be able to afford one.

00:23:53.060 But not right now.

00:23:54.000 That's right.

00:23:54.940 Like my aspirational goal is to lose another twenty five pounds.

00:23:57.740 It's not stopping me from getting a bowl of ice cream in this next break.

00:24:02.420 It doesn't mean I'm going to do that.

00:24:08.140 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

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00:24:32.920 We're so glad you're here.

00:24:34.540 You know, there's a couple of essential businesses, if you will, that are being closed down that

00:24:39.700 I think should be marked as essential.

00:24:41.800 One is our faith centers and not saying that we all should be going into church, but we have

00:24:47.980 to remember that faith is essential to the American people.

00:24:52.380 The other one that is much more clear cut on remaining open, that is a gun store, especially

00:25:00.560 when you have the the governments all around our country just letting prisoners out.

00:25:07.360 What?

00:25:08.620 I don't even understand that.

00:25:10.440 Isn't shelter in place the perfect place to do that in prison?

00:25:14.500 How is this not a how is how is releasing prisoners a good idea?

00:25:22.360 I really don't understand that.

00:25:24.460 Then on top of it, they're closing the gun stores.

00:25:27.680 And on top of that, they're telling us, oh, well, our first responders are going to be swamped

00:25:33.400 with calls.

00:25:34.040 Well, then who's going to protect you?

00:25:36.000 We have John Lott on John is John is he's really, truly a national treasure.

00:25:42.680 He is probably one of I would say this directly.

00:25:45.880 He is the most important voice when it comes to guns, gun crime, gun statistics.

00:25:52.620 And that's why he's despised by people on the left, because he's no pun intended, bulletproof

00:26:00.300 with his stats.

00:26:01.340 He is the president of Crime Prevention Research Center.

00:26:04.400 Welcome to the program, John Lott, Jr.

00:26:06.140 How are you, sir?

00:26:07.640 Oh, great to talk to you again, Glenn.

00:26:10.660 You bet.

00:26:11.140 So tell me what your thoughts are on on, you know, places like L.A. saying, no, a gun store

00:26:17.820 is not essential.

00:26:20.100 Right.

00:26:20.980 Well, I mean, people are concerned about what will happen to the social order.

00:26:25.500 I mean, we have kind of a perfect storm in the sense that prisoners are being released

00:26:29.920 from prison because of the concern that some people may be particularly susceptible in closed

00:26:34.760 spaces to gain the disease.

00:26:36.440 We're not arresting people because they don't want to have new people put into the prison 1.00

00:26:42.000 system in police departments across the country.

00:26:46.500 You have two things that are happening.

00:26:48.920 One is that many police departments simply aren't responding to many types of calls from

00:26:55.500 victims because they don't they want to limit the exposure that the police are receiving.

00:27:00.980 Some departments like Los Angeles have issued gloves and goggles and face masks to police.

00:27:08.200 But the thing is, when you're dealing with the rough and tumble of actually arresting a 0.68

00:27:14.160 criminal, you know, just because you have a face mask on doesn't mean it's going to stay

00:27:19.020 there at the end of the process that you have.

00:27:21.460 Um, and, uh, you know, it's, you also have a fair number of police who are getting the

00:27:29.140 illness themselves right now.

00:27:30.940 And, uh, and so you're going to have fewer police officers available to, uh, to be called

00:27:37.080 on.

00:27:38.940 So you make it less you have criminals.

00:27:42.800 You, you have states now and counties that are starting to close down, uh, these gun stores.

00:27:50.160 I think it's surprising what happened in Illinois, uh, where the governor did the exact opposite.

00:27:57.760 Right.

00:27:58.660 You know, there are a couple of states now where you've had fairly strong, uh, gun control

00:28:04.920 advocate, uh, democratic governors who have actually allowed, uh, gun stores to, to keep

00:28:10.780 operating.

00:28:11.340 But you have a large number, uh, in major states like New York and New Jersey and, uh, and other

00:28:18.800 places, which, uh, have made it impossible for people to be able to go and buy guns, uh,

00:28:24.000 for protection.

00:28:25.560 And, uh, you know, they've, and they've, in some of the states where the state actually

00:28:31.060 operates the background check system, uh, you don't directly go to the federal system.

00:28:36.240 Uh, they've just refused to process any more, uh, uh, purchase.

00:28:43.060 Yeah.

00:28:43.500 Somebody told me they were trying to buy a gun here in, uh, Texas recently.

00:28:47.600 And they said that it, they were told it's a, almost a month's wait to get it, uh, uh,

00:28:54.700 through the system.

00:28:55.460 And, uh, that's what they said.

00:28:58.180 I don't know if that's true, but that's crazy if it is.

00:29:02.280 Yeah, I've talked to a number of, uh, licensed dealers and they've told me that it's just

00:29:07.920 impossible to get through the system right now.

00:29:11.820 When they call up, uh, the line's busy and, um, you know, I assume that's occurring across

00:29:18.660 the country there.

00:29:19.680 People now, is that, is that because people are going out and buying guns or, you know,

00:29:24.540 during the Obama administration, that was happening a lot too.

00:29:27.480 Uh, and during the Clinton administration, you'd talk to people who were, you know, uh,

00:29:32.060 gun store owners and they said, boy, the day George Bush was, uh, elected, all of a sudden

00:29:37.340 all those phone problems went away.

00:29:39.420 Is that the same thing or is this just because they're overwhelmed?

00:29:43.820 I think it's largely because they're overwhelmed, but of course the system can break down when

00:29:48.060 they have a huge number of calls going into the, to the system there.

00:29:52.000 Uh, but, uh, you know, uh, we know, uh, ammunition sales, for example, uh, in the last three weeks

00:30:00.280 have probably gone up about, uh, 300% from what they were, uh, in the three weeks prior

00:30:07.120 to that.

00:30:08.020 Uh, one can only assume that maybe gun sales have been going up similarly over that period

00:30:12.980 of time.

00:30:13.780 But, you know, one thing just to mention about the police is you and I can telecommute to

00:30:20.020 do our jobs.

00:30:21.160 I mean, you could go and do your, uh, job, uh, from your home.

00:30:25.560 Uh, but police officers don't have that option.

00:30:28.500 They have to, they can't, they have to actually come in physical contact with, uh, criminals

00:30:34.260 and that allows them to face risks in terms of the disease that, uh, you and I and many

00:30:41.300 others don't have to worry about.

00:30:43.720 So John, is any of this going to be corrected assuming this virus passes without any kind of

00:30:48.840 real problems, um, are, are we going to be able to take the states to court about this

00:30:55.300 to be able to fix this and shore this up?

00:30:57.980 Or do they have a right to just shut all this stuff down when it comes to gun stores and

00:31:02.440 guns?

00:31:03.980 Right.

00:31:04.600 Well, I mean, there are a number of court cases.

00:31:06.820 Uh, these things take time to wind through, uh, and it's been kind of a mixed bag so far.

00:31:12.820 Uh, the Pennsylvania state Supreme court, uh, which is almost completely dominated by Democrats

00:31:20.040 voted four to three that the state was allowed to go and shut down the gun stores that were

00:31:26.000 there.

00:31:26.280 Um, uh, you know, I think the federal courts, uh, Trump, while he's accomplished a lot in

00:31:35.000 the courts, he's only kind of brought it into balance.

00:31:37.800 The Democratic nominees had so completely dominated the courts prior to him being there.

00:31:43.220 People talk about the number of federal judges that he's put on.

00:31:46.620 But, um, if you look at the circuit courts, uh, 24 of the states are in circuits where Democrats

00:31:53.140 have a majority and 26 are in, uh, in states where Republicans now have a majority.

00:31:59.380 And so the states, which are most likely to put these types of restrictions on are the

00:32:05.540 heavily blue states.

00:32:07.360 And they tend to be in those circuits like the ninth circuit, for example, which are still

00:32:12.800 dominated by Democrats.

00:32:16.220 So, uh, John, um, as you're, as you're looking at what's happening with the, uh, with the situation

00:32:25.800 with guns, what should the average person do and know today?

00:32:34.120 Well, I mean, I think just as you have a fire extinguisher, because something might happen,

00:32:40.700 a fire might occur.

00:32:42.560 Uh, we're not talking about the zombie apocalypse right now, but people have concerns about their

00:32:47.500 safety.

00:32:48.120 If police can't respond, uh, to calls either because the police officers aren't there or

00:32:54.620 because, uh, they're simply limiting the number of calls that they're willing to take because

00:32:59.200 they don't want to expose the officers.

00:33:01.220 People have to be able to go and protect themselves.

00:33:04.520 Um, you know, if you make it less risky for criminals to go and commit crime, they're going

00:33:10.240 to go and commit more crimes than they would have otherwise.

00:33:12.600 And that's, that's happening.

00:33:14.580 They're, they're already in Philadelphia and other places saying, we're not going to prosecute

00:33:17.900 for, you know, certain things.

00:33:19.920 Wait a minute.

00:33:20.660 What?

00:33:21.900 Right.

00:33:22.400 I mean, they giving them a license.

00:33:24.620 Right.

00:33:25.260 If you steal up to a thousand dollars in some places, you're not going to be prosecuted.

00:33:30.400 You have these, uh, district attorneys, uh, that George Soros and others have supported

00:33:36.520 to get in there and, and they, you know, you, you can have these horrific videos of people

00:33:43.100 just going into the stores and taking stuff off the shelves because they know that they're

00:33:48.040 not going to get into serious trouble, uh, for doing that.

00:33:52.060 Criminals are like anybody else.

00:33:53.460 If you make it less risky, less costly for them to go and do something, they're going

00:33:58.900 to do more of it.

00:34:01.380 John Lott.

00:34:02.060 Thank you so much.

00:34:02.780 Appreciate it.

00:34:03.320 The president of Crime Prevention Research Center, John Lott Jr.

00:34:06.820 The President of Crime Prevention Research Center, John Lott Jr.

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