The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guest： John Schroder ｜ 10⧸10⧸22

00:00:00.000 Oh, Pat, Pat, Pat.

00:00:02.660 Back again.

00:00:04.700 Stu just won't show up.

00:00:06.620 I don't know what his deal is.

00:00:08.580 What it is.

00:00:09.300 I know that, but...

00:00:11.720 And he's just trying to spend as many days away from you as he possibly can.

00:00:15.480 You know what he is?

00:00:16.720 He's afraid of the Eagles-Dallas matchup.

00:00:19.340 Oh, yeah.

00:00:20.140 And I'm really not a fan of football,

00:00:23.420 but I kind of am that tag-along fan when they're doing well.

00:00:27.900 And you know enough to know the Dallas Cowboys are going to crush Philadelphia.

00:00:32.120 Philadelphia, the Eagles.

00:00:33.320 Yeah.

00:00:34.320 Yeah, we just put a cheesesteak down at the...

00:00:39.840 Well, you know that line where they cross and they would make a point for the other team?

00:00:45.040 Yes!

00:00:45.380 We put a cheesesteak there and we win.

00:00:48.960 Done.

00:00:49.360 Yeah, so...

00:00:50.260 Anyway, today's podcast is full of stuff that you need to know

00:00:54.200 and I think some fun stuff as well.

00:00:56.780 Don't miss a second of it.

00:00:58.400 Listen, if 87,000 new IRS agents running around looking into things, you know, about you,

00:01:04.800 isn't enough just to get you sweating just a little more than usual?

00:01:08.860 I don't know what could.

00:01:11.160 Maybe having to give the entire presentation at work with everyone.

00:01:15.240 Everyone looking at you.

00:01:17.040 Judging you. 0.93

00:01:18.400 Noticing your armpits.

00:01:19.880 How damp they're getting.

00:01:21.640 Or how about sitting on that long, long flight when you're stuck in the middle seat?

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00:02:16.360 Here's the podcast.

00:02:24.340 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:02:28.300 Okay, let me start with some good news.

00:02:34.340 First of all, hello, Pat.

00:02:36.320 Hello, Glenn.

00:02:37.000 How are you?

00:02:37.680 Oh.

00:02:38.200 Mmm.

00:02:38.780 Mmm.

00:02:39.200 Mmm.

00:02:39.620 So good.

00:02:40.240 Mmm.

00:02:40.640 Yeah.

00:02:41.160 Mm-hmm.

00:02:42.000 Stu, where is Stu today?

00:02:43.400 I don't know.

00:02:44.260 I guess because it's Columbus Day, he thought that that was a-

00:02:47.260 Oh, yeah, he's a big Columbus guy.

00:02:49.300 Big, big Columbus Day guy.

00:02:50.160 He's like, he decorates his house with smallpox blankets.

00:02:53.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:54.480 And then he does a reenactment.

00:02:56.440 He does.

00:02:56.960 Yes.

00:02:57.240 He does. 0.56

00:02:57.820 Of just the part where he's slaughtering Indians.

00:03:00.540 Right.

00:03:01.040 Yeah, so.

00:03:04.160 Anyway, nice to have you here.

00:03:05.620 Okay, let me give you three good stories here.

00:03:07.700 Now, these are big stories, and they're going to be-

00:03:11.000 You're probably going to-

00:03:13.060 You'll hear talk about them, but nobody will put this into perspective.

00:03:16.740 This is you standing up.

00:03:20.460 Okay?

00:03:21.080 These three things are happening because you are standing up.

00:03:25.580 Story number one.

00:03:28.120 As of October 8th, PayPal's new acceptable use policy states that, effective November 3rd,

00:03:37.140 activities like the sending, posting, or publication of any message, content, or materials may qualify as violations if the company decides they are harmful, obscene, harassing, or objectionable.

00:03:51.360 Basically, yeah, whatever we want.

00:03:54.400 If they depict, promote, or incite hatred or discrimination of protected groups, you go after white guys, no problem, or of individuals of groups based on protected characteristics, race, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, or are fraudulent.

00:04:13.920 Promote misinformation, or unlawful.

00:04:17.040 For each violation, a user may be subject to damages, including liquidated damages of $2,500 U.S. dollars, which may be debited directly from your PayPal accounts.

00:04:29.720 You gotta be kidding me.

00:04:31.760 Okay, now this happened, what, last week?

00:04:36.040 And last week we talked about it, but apparently a lot of other people talked about it, too.

00:04:42.680 Now, they are not a neutral organization.

00:04:45.400 They haven't even really said that they are a neutral organization, although they say they value uniqueness and diversity of thought.

00:04:55.200 Oh, do you?

00:04:56.720 Is that why you shut down the account of the free speech union?

00:05:00.980 Because they were a little upset about the radical gender theory in British schools?

00:05:07.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:08.620 Or how about gays against groomers?

00:05:11.420 Why'd you shut them down?

00:05:12.440 You didn't even have an explanation for that one.

00:05:15.440 Gays for groomers say more and more companies are coming out in full support of the sexualization, indoctrination, and medicalization of minors.

00:05:22.420 By the way, PayPal also shut down Us for Them, a campaign group that advocated for reopening schools during the COVID-19 lockdown. 0.93

00:05:31.680 It's got to shut them up.

00:05:32.780 You know what I'm saying?

00:05:34.480 So anyway, they're not neutral.

00:05:39.240 However, here's the good news.

00:05:42.280 In a tweet on Saturday, just a few days after they released this seven-page document,

00:05:49.900 David Marcus spoke out against the new policy, first reported by the Daily Wire,

00:05:56.980 that would apparently allow the digital payment processor to charge $2,500.

00:06:01.800 Elon Musk, another co-founder of PayPal, said he agreed with the criticism,

00:06:07.220 joining a number of others who have spoken out against the new policy.

00:06:10.480 He said, it's really hard for me to openly criticize a company that I used to love and I gave so much to,

00:06:17.260 but PayPal's new users' rules or whatever goes against everything I believe in.

00:06:25.720 A private company now gets to decide to take your money if you say something they disagree with.

00:06:30.400 That's insanity.

00:06:31.840 And some other people started saying,

00:06:33.480 David Sacks said, get your money out of PayPal right now.

00:06:37.040 Scott Adams from Dilbert said, seriously, close your PayPal account immediately if they don't reverse this today.

00:06:44.800 Vivek Ramaswamy said, misinformation police are now extending their reach beyond social media accounts.

00:06:50.180 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:06:51.720 Whole bunch of people.

00:06:53.440 You spoke out about it.

00:06:54.860 Blake Masters, the Arizona Senate campaign, he said, yeah, I get to Washington soon and I'm going to be working on this.

00:07:05.600 Then PayPal just released this.

00:07:10.960 That notice went out in error and we included some incorrect information.

00:07:18.900 We're not fining people for misinformation.

00:07:20.640 And this language was never intended to be inserted into our policy.

00:07:25.520 Our teams are working now to correct our policy pages.

00:07:29.760 Oh, you know, these companies have such a weird habit of like really bizarre things happening.

00:07:38.520 Yeah.

00:07:39.040 Yeah.

00:07:39.380 You know, like I've never said, you know, hey, by the way, just some company policy.

00:07:46.760 You know, if you have brown hair, it's OK. 0.97

00:07:51.400 It's absolutely OK to harass you because we're going to fire you anyway because you have black hair, brown hair. 1.00

00:07:58.380 Never said that. 0.97

00:07:59.480 Oops.

00:07:59.980 That how did that get into the policy?

00:08:02.780 How did that happen?

00:08:04.240 Somebody broke into the policy and just started writing stuff in it.

00:08:09.040 Yeah.

00:08:09.160 I hate that.

00:08:10.020 You know, that would be I would accept that.

00:08:12.160 I would like to see the termination of that person, but it's just like they have a bunch

00:08:16.740 of rogue people in there.

00:08:17.820 They're just like, watch this.

00:08:19.560 We're going to we're going to write that.

00:08:22.460 We're going to take people's money. 0.88

00:08:25.920 You should fire those people. 0.99

00:08:27.500 Then next story, because of you, Vanderbilt to pause gender transition surgeries on minors.

00:08:37.300 The Vanderbilt University Medical Center has paused all gender transition surgeries for

00:08:41.960 minors following an explosive report about their pediatric gender services and a letter

00:08:46.560 from the state legislators demanding the practices stop.

00:08:49.460 We are, by the way, this is this is really Daily Wire and what's his name on the Daily

00:08:56.800 Wire that did this?

00:08:58.240 We are pausing gender affirmation affirmation surgeries on patients under 18 while we complete

00:09:04.720 this review, which may take several months.

00:09:07.640 In addition, we understand the issue is likely to be taken up by the General Assembly in its

00:09:11.260 next legislative station and session.

00:09:14.300 And as always, we assure that our programs will comply with any new requirements which may

00:09:19.000 be established as a part of Tennessee law.

00:09:22.540 Huh.

00:09:23.240 Huh.

00:09:23.860 Huh.

00:09:24.300 So so no more hormones or double mastectomies for kids.

00:09:30.420 That's you know, that's probably a good thing.

00:09:34.900 Well, since when you change gender, the suicide rate for those kids goes up 20 times.

00:09:45.020 The national average.

00:09:46.180 30 times, is it?

00:09:46.720 No, it's not 30 times.

00:09:47.700 It's not 100 times.

00:09:48.300 No, it's not 100 times.

00:09:49.920 Right.

00:09:50.240 It's only 20 times.

00:09:51.640 Right.

00:09:52.120 The rates.

00:09:52.800 Right.

00:09:53.160 So.

00:09:53.460 So thank you for standing up.

00:09:55.600 See what happens when we stand up?

00:09:57.400 Mm hmm.

00:09:57.920 Several states.

00:09:58.880 Here's number three.

00:10:00.100 Several states have launched efforts to root out ESG with 19 GOP attorneys general sending

00:10:06.780 a letter to BlackRock, BlackRock, BlackRock, increasingly becoming a Republican target, challenging

00:10:15.740 the money manager's commitment to ESG principles.

00:10:18.440 They claim that BlackRock's policies are undercutting shareholder profits and managing state pension

00:10:24.700 funds.

00:10:25.180 So Louisiana decided to go a step further.

00:10:28.740 God bless the state treasurer there, John Schroeder.

00:10:32.740 He announced last week the state has divested $560 million, a number that will increase to

00:10:39.880 794 million over the coming months as Louisiana exits BlackRock money market funds, mutual funds

00:10:46.840 and exchange traded fund holdings.

00:10:48.780 He writes, your blatantly anti-fossil fuel policies will destroy Louisiana's economy.

00:10:56.220 This divestment is necessary to protect Louisiana from actions and policies that you would actively

00:11:01.800 seek to hamstring our fossil fuel sector. 0.77

00:11:04.860 In my opinion, your support of ESG investing is inconsistent with the best economic interest

00:11:09.360 and values of Louisiana.

00:11:11.400 All of these things are happening because, one, somebody was brave enough to expose them.

00:11:21.020 Okay?

00:11:21.660 Matt Walsh.

00:11:23.980 He's the guy who's been exposing and really bringing it to people's attentions, especially

00:11:30.600 at Vanderbilt.

00:11:32.400 That's him.

00:11:34.020 So he was brave enough to stand there and tell you.

00:11:37.520 And then you stood up.

00:11:41.180 This is fantastic news.

00:11:44.080 They are scared out of their mind.

00:11:53.440 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

00:12:02.460 Welcome to the Louisiana State Treasurer, John Schroeder.

00:12:06.100 How are you, John?

00:12:07.800 Glenn, good morning.

00:12:09.100 It is good to talk to you, sir.

00:12:11.420 Yes, sir.

00:12:12.300 Great day.

00:12:13.740 Yeah, it is a good day.

00:12:14.660 Last week, you said, yeah, I'm not going to give you the money.

00:12:23.100 What was it?

00:12:23.700 Seven, I think I said billion.

00:12:24.960 It's $700 million, right?

00:12:26.800 Almost a billion dollars.

00:12:28.840 Yeah, it's about seven, almost 800.

00:12:31.520 Okay.

00:12:32.140 And there's more coming, right?

00:12:35.600 Over the next year?

00:12:36.460 Yeah, so I've been working on this for a long time.

00:12:40.960 You just don't move that much money overnight.

00:12:43.780 Right.

00:12:44.640 What really called this out, somebody caught wind of it, and it's probably my fault because

00:12:50.240 I got agitated at some meeting that I was at, and I said something publicly, and the next

00:12:56.120 thing I know, I had a public information request, and I've been working on it since late last

00:13:02.040 year.

00:13:02.760 We actually started moving money probably around March, and I wasn't going to say anything until

00:13:08.720 I moved at all.

00:13:09.660 But two things happened that sort of forced me to come out last week.

00:13:14.240 I had a meeting with BlackRock in Philadelphia when I was at the Treasurer's Conference about

00:13:20.860 two weeks ago.

00:13:21.600 Then I had a public information request, which I had to release some information that I wanted

00:13:27.720 to control the narrative.

00:13:28.880 So that's why I followed up with my meeting at BlackRock with a letter telling them what

00:13:35.480 I was doing, and I had already started it.

00:13:37.880 We had already moved, you know, a half billion dollars the time I released this letter.

00:13:43.560 And by the end of the year, it'll be about $800 million.

00:13:45.840 But Glenn, I want your listeners to understand this, especially those in Louisiana, because

00:13:52.580 I want to be very accurate.

00:13:54.360 There's a lot of news about this.

00:13:56.820 This is money that I, as Treasurer of the state of Louisiana, manage in our trust funds.

00:14:02.380 About $16 billion in trust funds, and about $800 million that is invested in BlackRock.

00:14:08.620 So we are moving that into other spaces where we're either making more or the same.

00:14:16.700 So we're not losing money.

00:14:19.040 We're just picking businesses, companies that we have something more in common with.

00:14:25.820 And we clearly don't in the fossil fuel space here in Louisiana.

00:14:30.720 But the real goal for BlackRock is to go after the pension money.

00:14:34.940 And each state, each state treasurer handles that a little differently.

00:14:39.720 Here in Louisiana, we have about $70 plus billion in retirement funds and pension funds.

00:14:47.380 And these are policemen and firemen and school teachers and state workers.

00:14:52.040 These aren't people going to work as entrepreneurs every day.

00:14:54.800 This is government employees' pensions money.

00:14:58.180 In Louisiana, again, it's over $70 billion.

00:15:00.040 And that's really what makes up a large share of BlackRock.

00:15:05.140 So I did what I could do.

00:15:08.200 Now, moving forward, I will begin to work with the legislature to figure out a way, how do we curb this pension money to be invested in companies like BlackRock,

00:15:21.160 who clearly want to see the demise of the fossil fuel industry, which is probably the biggest industry we have in Louisiana.

00:15:30.080 Correct.

00:15:30.740 Now, did you take on the S and the G, or are you only looking at the E?

00:15:36.620 Oh, no.

00:15:37.260 We, you know, this just came out in the news last week.

00:15:42.300 But this has been an ongoing battle on several fronts.

00:15:45.020 Our legislative session ended in June, and there were several bills dealing with all kinds of different situations on the ESG.

00:15:58.520 But, no, on this particular front, with BlackRock, it was obviously their environmental position.

00:16:07.780 But, Glenn, I don't mind telling you, almost four years ago, I blocked Citibank and Bank of America over Second Amendment issues.

00:16:16.380 You know, so this has been going on for a while here in Louisiana.

00:16:19.920 I've blocked them from doing almost a billion dollars in borrowing from the state of Louisiana.

00:16:25.200 It's gone under radar, you know, because I can do this all within the confines of the law of my job, my constitutional duties.

00:16:34.140 And I don't have to go beat my chest about it either, but you said this as I was listening.

00:16:41.100 We need to step up and do something.

00:16:43.760 We can't just sit back and be good conservatives and take it in the shorts anymore.

00:16:49.940 So I'm proud to lead the State Financial Office Foundation.

00:16:54.360 I don't know if you know that.

00:16:55.100 I'm the national chair as of October 1st.

00:16:58.120 And you will start seeing more.

00:17:00.240 I have talked to treasurers across the country since last Wednesday.

00:17:05.200 And, you know, they're just looking at ways on how to reinvest this money, because at the end of the day, you do have a fiduciary responsibility.

00:17:14.780 Those pension workers or those retired government workers need to get their paychecks.

00:17:19.440 And I get it.

00:17:20.040 They're a retirement check.

00:17:20.940 So that sits in the palm of my hands in a lot of cases in many states across this nation.

00:17:28.140 So I get that, but I'm also not going to feed my enemy.

00:17:32.800 And I'm not going to – I think we have to do a better job at educating the pension folks, the state workers, the government workers.

00:17:42.060 We have to educate them and let them know where their money is being invested.

00:17:46.700 It's backdooring them.

00:17:48.140 It's going to kill our industry.

00:17:51.560 Not to speak of what it does for communist China and other countries that want to see the United States wiped off the face of the map. 0.79

00:18:00.260 So what was BlackRock's response?

00:18:02.720 Well, you know, I met with them.

00:18:09.300 Now, they've gotten some wind that I was doing this, so this isn't, like, total out-of-the-blue news to them.

00:18:15.580 I mean, I would imagine if you took $500 million out, they might notice it.

00:18:21.220 I would hope.

00:18:21.840 I know they got trillions of dollars, but I know they knew that I was moving this money.

00:18:27.240 But they never made mention of it when I met with them two weeks ago.

00:18:30.360 But what they did do was apologize and say that, you know, that they, you know, wanted to assure me that they weren't against the fossil fuel industry and this, that, and the other.

00:18:48.360 Well, Glenn, I told them – I'm sitting there with three people and one of the directors, and it was about a 45-minute long conversation.

00:18:55.840 And after a little bit, I told them, I said, look, this isn't personal with you guys.

00:19:00.920 But y'all are sitting here telling me one thing, but I can show you, quote, video, and audio of your CEO saying something different than what you're sitting in this room telling me today.

00:19:12.640 Now, I'm the treasurer of Louisiana, and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way, but I guess the CEO of BlackRock needs to tell me otherwise,

00:19:21.740 because y'all are sitting here telling me one thing, but what I read, see, and hear is something totally different than out of your CEO.

00:19:30.300 So unless he's willing to go out publicly and now reverse what he has been saying and go to conferences –

00:19:38.740 because, look, Glenn, I don't need to tell you, it's everywhere, all over the Internet where he makes comments about what they need to do,

00:19:46.080 where BlackRock is becoming almost like the communist leader, that they know what's best for the world water,

00:19:54.440 they know what's best for Louisiana.

00:19:56.460 Well, you know what?

00:19:56.980 He's not going to use my money to do it.

00:19:58.960 That's the other thing people don't understand, and that's something they said to me in the meeting, that it's not their money.

00:20:07.040 It's our money.

00:20:08.100 They're using our money to beat ourselves.

00:20:12.340 That's like – I'm not going to do that any longer.

00:20:15.920 And, look, I just want you to understand this.

00:20:20.820 I didn't just wake up last Wednesday and decide to do this.

00:20:23.860 This is something that we've been strategically working on for the entire year, and it just came to a head last week.

00:20:31.460 I am so glad to hear it.

00:20:32.940 John, you're well thought out, and I hope there are more of you that are working behind the scenes to do the right thing.

00:20:41.200 The whole world is being strangled to death because of the energy policies of people like BlackRock shutting off all investment.

00:20:52.600 I just read a story today.

00:20:54.080 I don't want to get in the weeds, but I just read a story today.

00:20:57.360 The banks can't invest in fossil fuels over in Europe, they're saying, because the money isn't there for investment.

00:21:05.760 And if the price collapses, then they're going to be sitting on all of this oil, and they won't be able to hedge it.

00:21:16.680 And I read that, and I thought, well, the problem is ESG.

00:21:21.540 The problem is that people are not investing in energy now because they're being encouraged not to and being told that that is not the future.

00:21:31.520 Well, it may not be the future 150 years from now, but it is over the next 50 years from now.

00:21:44.340 You know, a couple things have to happen, going back to your comment about your hope and others are doing the same thing.

00:21:51.280 I can tell you factually, we are, and they are.

00:21:54.220 I think what has to happen, what's so great about this country, and look, I'm an entrepreneur, and if I can have a minute, Glenn, I want to tell you something.

00:22:03.980 I've listened to you for a long time.

00:22:06.280 I'm a former military intelligence, infantry military intelligence CID agent from the Army.

00:22:12.840 I was a narcotics agent after that, and I lost my career over a pretty serious eye injury.

00:22:22.320 But I've always appreciated how you stood up for our country.

00:22:26.640 And I don't need, as a veteran of this country, I don't need anybody to thank me.

00:22:34.860 But it is nice hearing people like you on the radio say thank you without saying thank you, and that's all I needed.

00:22:45.560 All I needed to know was there was people out there who understood what we do, why we do it,

00:22:51.720 and there are people like me who did things and went after bad people so you could have your radio show

00:22:59.040 and everybody could go about their business every day.

00:23:02.260 And I've just always appreciated that.

00:23:04.840 This is the first time I've ever met you, talked to you in my life, and I just want to tell you thank you.

00:23:10.000 That is more meaningful than you know, John.

00:23:13.920 Thank you so much.

00:23:15.260 God bless you.

00:23:16.180 Hope to meet you someday.

00:23:17.880 John Schroeder, he is the state treasurer of the great state of Louisiana.

00:23:22.860 Well, I mean, it's connected to Texas, so that really is what makes it great, don't you think?

00:23:28.220 Absolutely.

00:23:28.660 Yeah, so it's the greatest, great, great, great-ish state of Louisiana.

00:23:35.420 It's connected to a great state.

00:23:36.660 Yeah, it is.

00:23:37.120 Let's say that.

00:23:37.480 It is.

00:23:38.220 Yeah.

00:23:38.840 Yeah.

00:23:39.120 And, you know, that rubs off on me.

00:23:45.220 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:23:47.660 I want to play something from a podcast that I did on Friday, and we didn't really have time to promote.

00:24:02.100 And I want you to watch or listen to the podcast.

00:24:05.000 You can find it on YouTube, or you can find it at Blaze TV.

00:24:10.020 It's part of the subscription, and it is really, really good.

00:24:16.360 We put it up on YouTube, on my YouTube page, because you really need to hear this.

00:24:20.840 It's 35 minutes, but I'm telling you it'll be the best 35 minutes you will spend probably all week.

00:24:26.220 It is a professor of psychology, and he was going through COVID, and he realized that he's from Europe.

00:24:38.040 He realized that what countries were doing didn't make any sense.

00:24:44.000 You know, he said everybody in Sweden was going to die because Sweden wouldn't go along with the rest of the world.

00:24:48.920 And he said, and when that didn't happen, you would expect people to go, oh, look, what's Sweden doing?

00:24:54.820 It doesn't really make a difference.

00:24:57.400 And he said, when they didn't do that, and then the mask thing, and then let's just try an experimental drug without telling anybody anything about it.

00:25:05.480 He said, I realized we were in a different place as a world.

00:25:11.120 So he started doing research, and it took him back, really, to authoritarianism.

00:25:18.920 Which he says is very different, because that is something that the mass participates in.

00:25:28.520 For instance, Germans.

00:25:30.660 Germans weren't being held by a dictator.

00:25:33.420 They were being held by an ideology, an idea that was running through Hitler.

00:25:40.420 Listen to what he says here.

00:25:42.520 When you're anxious, and you don't know what you feel anxious for, you feel completely out of control.

00:25:47.560 But if you start to believe that your anxiety is caused by something, no matter whether it is true or not, and that there is a strategy to deal with that something, then you have an experience of control.

00:25:57.900 You feel in control again.

00:25:59.000 And also, you have an object to direct all your frustration and aggression on.

00:26:03.560 So that's the first psychological advantage, the first step of mass formation, where the first psychological advantage of mass formation.

00:26:10.000 And in a second step, something even more important happens.

00:26:15.240 Because so many people participate in a strategy, for instance, the lockdowns, but it could also be the concentration camps or the crusades or the witch.

00:26:23.060 Because so many people participate in the strategy to deal with the object of anxiety.

00:26:28.700 They have the feeling to fight a collective heroic battle with the object of anxiety.

00:26:33.700 And they feel connected again.

00:26:36.020 The loneliness disappears.

00:26:37.860 And they have a feeling of a new sense making again.

00:26:40.940 You could say, of course, what's the problem?

00:26:43.900 People felt lonely.

00:26:45.180 And now they feel connected again.

00:26:46.800 They were confronted with a lack of meaning making.

00:26:49.820 And now they have the feeling that their life makes sense again.

00:26:54.100 And they felt out of control about their anxiety.

00:26:58.060 And now they feel in control again.

00:26:59.460 So what's the problem?

00:27:00.140 Well, there is a problem.

00:27:00.940 First, there always has to be a scapegoat at whom all this frustration and aggression can be directed.

00:27:05.280 And also, even more important, this new social bond, this new connectedness, is not a social bond between individuals.

00:27:12.480 It's always a social bond between the individual, between each individual separately and the collective.

00:27:20.080 Meaning that in a mass, the famous citizenship, the famous solidarity that is so typical for mass formation, is never a solidarity between individuals.

00:27:29.340 It's always a solidarity between the individual and the collective.

00:27:31.820 Meaning that, and it is even the case, that the longer the mass formation exists, lasts, the more all solidarity and love is sucked away from the bonds between the individuals and injected in the bond between the individual and the collective.

00:27:46.700 And that makes that, in the end, solidarity with the collective is much bigger than a solidarity with other individuals, leading to the famous paranoid state in totalitarian systems, where every individual is willing to snitch on every other individual, to report every other individual to the state, if they have the feeling that this other individual doesn't show enough solidarity to the collective.

00:28:11.760 In the end, this leads, typically, I've been talking with this woman, Shoray Fishtali, who lived in Iran during the revolution there, which was a huge scale process of mass formation.

00:28:22.040 And she told me how she has seen how a mother reported her son to the state, and how this mother hung the noose around his neck when he was on the scaffold.

00:28:30.820 And when he was hung, she claimed to be a heroine for doing what she did.

00:28:34.860 That is a dramatic end stage of mass formation.

00:28:38.660 That's what we have to avoid, that it goes to this end stage.

00:28:41.760 So, what a brilliant explanation.

00:28:44.500 He is under attack.

00:28:46.680 Oh, I bet.

00:28:47.220 All of the elites are saying, this guy's a right-wing enabler.

00:28:53.620 He's not right.

00:28:54.400 He's not right-wing.

00:28:55.640 I've read the book.

00:28:57.000 You should read the book.

00:28:58.840 It is.

00:28:59.660 It's called The Psychology of Totalitarianism.

00:29:02.340 It is right on the money.

00:29:04.120 And it is why I have said to you for a long time, if we go dark, if we go dark, you know, evil doesn't destroy things.

00:29:16.920 It perverts things and twists things.

00:29:21.660 Look at what's happened to the word equality.

00:29:25.580 Equality has been perverted.

00:29:28.500 Freedom of speech is perverted.

00:29:31.960 Tolerance.

00:29:32.560 Tolerance.

00:29:33.320 All of it is perverted.

00:29:35.180 They don't destroy it.

00:29:36.620 They pervert it.

00:29:37.660 So, what do you think is going to happen to us with all of our technology, all of the weapons alone that we have?

00:29:47.100 We will become the darkest country to ever be on the face of the earth.

00:29:54.680 We will go from the greatest country to the most terrifying country.

00:30:00.180 Mark my words.

00:30:01.160 It will happen.

00:30:02.520 Because we're already starting to see signs.

00:30:05.400 We're starting to see signs of doctors.

00:30:08.920 Doctors.

00:30:09.780 Saying, if you didn't get the COVID-19, why should I even treat you?

00:30:13.900 Why should I even treat you for anything?

00:30:17.100 I saw an op-ed from, well, it was a Medium post, of a doctor in Los Angeles that said, 0.98

00:30:24.740 this person I was working on hated black people.

00:30:29.700 And, you know, I'm anti-racist. 0.96

00:30:33.240 Do I have to help him?

00:30:37.620 Am I required to help him?

00:30:40.500 Yes.

00:30:41.260 According to the oath you took.

00:30:42.540 Right.

00:30:43.020 Absolutely.

00:30:43.880 You are.

00:30:44.240 So when doctors and nurses are starting to say this, and you're also hearing this, let me just give you the FBI story.

00:30:52.060 So the FBI, we know, has now deemed parents who speak up against their kids being, you know,

00:31:03.740 forced to go to a transgender show or reading books that are wholly inappropriate or having pedophilia normalized 0.61

00:31:16.020 or have them question their gender, all things, all of those we knew were bad five years ago, five years ago.

00:31:26.880 We knew all of those things were bad.

00:31:29.700 We didn't even have to say it because everybody knew it.

00:31:32.500 So, today, it's fine.

00:31:37.700 And the FBI, forget about Washington.

00:31:41.260 I'm talking about the local FBI, the one that is in your state or your city.

00:31:46.700 They are now being called upon to to investigate parents who stand up against this or they're going

00:31:57.520 after and busting with handcuffs, handcuffs, 84 year old people.

00:32:05.160 The latest bust happened last week.

00:32:09.580 The pro-life father of 11 children.

00:32:12.600 This is not the one you heard at the beginning of the week.

00:32:15.800 This one happened on Wednesday.

00:32:18.480 Federal Bureau of Investigation arrested a pro-life father of 11, charging him with conspiracy.

00:32:24.540 Who's the conspiracy theorist?

00:32:26.780 Conspiracy against rights secured by the FACE Act and committing FACE Act violations.

00:32:32.800 Remind me, Sarah, I got to come back to the word conspiracy and how they're using it here.

00:32:37.780 He said, when I opened the door and saw the guns pointed at me, they had long rifles.

00:32:42.100 I asked them what they wanted.

00:32:43.380 They said they were looking what they were looking for and what they said they wanted was me.

00:32:47.620 I had kids in the yard walking out to get in the car to go to school.

00:32:50.540 I was about to take them to school.

00:32:51.880 The other kids were in the house.

00:32:53.600 So, seeing that the easiest path to de-escalation was me in handcuffs, I stepped outside and put

00:32:59.000 an end to the ranting and the banging and the yelling.

00:33:01.960 After the FBI put him in handcuffs in the car, he said his wife came outside.

00:33:06.020 She had been in the back of the house with their 18-month-old baby.

00:33:08.760 She said, I want to know why you were banging on my door with a gun. 1.00

00:33:12.380 She said, you're not going to tell me anything?

00:33:14.540 The agent replied, and I've heard the tape.

00:33:16.940 No, we're not.

00:33:18.480 And she said, you're not going to tell me.

00:33:21.280 And then he said, I tried.

00:33:23.140 She said, no, you didn't.

00:33:25.380 And he said, and he just got in the car.

00:33:28.820 She talked to all the agents.

00:33:30.340 None of them would even answer her.

00:33:31.940 It was really horrible.

00:33:33.700 Horrible.

00:33:34.140 Now, here's the interesting thing.

00:33:36.880 Eleven of the advocates, they were pro-life advocates.

00:33:42.420 They were charged with a violation of freedom of access to Clinic Entrances Act for blocking

00:33:49.900 an abortion clinic in 2021.

00:33:53.560 So, this is not a new thing.

00:33:55.540 By the way, nobody contacted him.

00:33:59.000 Nobody, no lawyer contacted him.

00:34:01.100 It took him hours to get a lawyer and a lawyer to figure out what the heck was going on.

00:34:06.760 After he was charged, he was just let go.

00:34:10.300 He didn't have a cell phone.

00:34:11.480 He didn't have a wallet.

00:34:12.760 He was in a T-shirt and a pair of pants.

00:34:14.920 And he was 60 miles away from his home.

00:34:17.460 He said, what I told the agents that arrested me on the ride into town, since we had a nice

00:34:23.960 hour of fellowship, is that this is a beautiful tactic.

00:34:27.900 If you want to suppress free speech and you want to strike fear and intimidation into opposition,

00:34:33.140 you weaponize justice to go after someone to suppress.

00:34:36.820 If you can get a large family like mine, you can also get all the children, because all

00:34:41.960 the children will have a memory of growing up, the big, bad agents banging on the door

00:34:46.220 and taking away their dad.

00:34:48.400 I think just the opposite, quite honestly.

00:34:51.400 I think the opposite is true.

00:34:55.860 I think the family and the children grow up thinking bad things about the government.

00:35:03.940 Now, he has gone into more details about what was happening.

00:35:11.960 He said his wife was still shaking and fighting back tears as he was being carted off.

00:35:20.080 The family didn't receive any official information about the cause of the raid or Vaughn's whereabouts

00:35:25.240 until six hours after the arrest.

00:35:27.740 He was held in a federal holding facility and brought before a judge, charged, and then

00:35:32.200 released without a wallet or cell phone.

00:35:34.540 For over six hours, no one knew where I was and why I was kidnapped from my home at gunpoint.

00:35:40.540 It took a good attorney six hours to be able to break through the bureaucracy and find somebody

00:35:46.160 who knew what was going on.

00:35:49.100 Vaughn pled not guilty to the charges and promised to fight the legal battle to the fullest.

00:35:55.240 In a statement to Town Hall, Vaughn called the FBI paid thugs out of an out-of-control

00:36:00.020 justice department that must be reined in immediately.

00:36:04.000 Now, if this isn't bad enough, and it is, if this isn't bad enough, Vaughn wasn't even at

00:36:18.380 the sit-in, he wasn't even there.

00:36:24.620 So, this guy and 10 others were arrested for a sit-in.

00:36:32.640 A sit-in.

00:36:34.960 March 2021.

00:36:36.380 Did you know that you could protest and be in a sit-in that's happened all through the

00:36:41.260 60s, and you could get 11 years in prison now?

00:36:47.540 11 years.

00:36:51.240 Vaughn, the guy I just told you about, he didn't even participate in the sit-in.

00:36:56.400 So, what was his role?

00:36:57.880 He acted as a mediator between the pro-life people who participated and law enforcement

00:37:06.680 locally to ensure the protest was safe, peaceful, and as legal as possible.

00:37:15.140 That's why it was coordinated, as these things always are.

00:37:19.740 It was coordinated.

00:37:21.140 He had called the local police and said, hey, look, we're going to do a sit-in on this day.

00:37:25.640 What do we need to do to make sure that we're as legal as possible?

00:37:30.500 And they said, well, you have to do this, this, and this, and it would be a misdemeanor.

00:37:35.500 So, we will take you away, but you'll be charged with a misdemeanor.

00:37:38.380 Okay, great.

00:37:39.500 So, he's the guy that mediated with the local police.

00:37:45.580 They all got misdemeanors, which was 100% appropriate. 0.98

00:37:49.660 And what happens?

00:37:50.600 Because the Justice Department gets wind of yet another local misdemeanor and decides to make it a felony.

00:38:00.700 This is out of control.

00:38:03.580 Now, let me bring it back to the psychology of totalitarianism.

00:38:09.740 If this was happening to any protester that was peacefully protesting, peacefully, would you be for 11 years in prison and the FBI not giving them a chance to surrender?

00:38:26.700 Now, Antifa, oh, I'm all for it.

00:38:29.080 I'm talking about somebody who has called the local cops, doesn't want to burn anything down, they're totally cool, they're in their 60s, 70s, and 80s, and maybe they have their grandchildren with them, and they've done all of that.

00:38:48.300 Do you want the FBI involved in this?

00:38:51.420 Because I don't.

00:38:54.920 I don't.

00:38:56.560 I'm wondering how they even were.

00:38:59.820 What was this that makes it, oh, the act is probably federal.

00:39:04.040 It's federal.

00:39:04.540 Right, the FACE Act.

00:39:05.660 Yeah, and they're making this, you're not supposed to be able to stop someone from going into an abortion clinic.

00:39:14.840 Right.

00:39:15.100 Well, the last week, it wasn't, the hallway was clear, a person could come in, they were singing and praying.

00:39:24.280 Yeah.

00:39:24.680 Okay, that's what they were doing.

00:39:26.540 This sit-in, I'm assuming they're doing the same thing, I don't know if they actually blocked the door, but that is federal.

00:39:33.440 But is this justice in America?

00:39:35.700 America, you already have half the population remaining silent on the abuse from the FBI, remaining silent on all of the stuff that has gone on, and is actually sitting there and remaining silent when a president of the United States says,

00:39:57.740 You know, anybody who voted for Trump, 90 million people, they're all terrorists.

00:40:06.940 Where do you think that ends? 0.97

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