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00:00:00.000 Hey, welcome to the program. We kind of went over what was happening with the Afghanistan

00:00:04.660 and General Milley hearings today. We had a lot of that. Also, the Jedi mind tricks that we were

00:00:12.120 doing. You know, it's you're not Jedi calling people a Jedi. If you are trying to promote

00:00:19.580 justice, equity, diversity and inclusion is a bad thing. And I think we all know this.

00:00:25.980 I think we all know this because of the ablest tropes in Star Wars. That that whole segment

00:00:32.620 was a roller coaster ride. OK, so this started with Stu and I talking about Sodom and Gomorrah

00:00:38.440 and scientists have found that a space rock hit Sodom and Gomorrah and vaporized everybody.

00:00:45.320 And I was asking the question whether or not he wanted to be vaporized. I went to the Jedi,

00:00:52.900 you know, mindset being problematic by five different scientists in Scientific American.

00:00:59.280 And Stu provided a few answers, a few answers, and you'll hear him on today's podcast.

00:01:04.720 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:19.080 You're going to lose your freedom if you are in Australia. If you don't get vaccinated,

00:01:24.140 you're going to lose your freedom. That's great for Australia. Here's the here's the problem. 0.96

00:01:29.840 In America, we have this little thing called the Declaration of Independence and governments

00:01:35.440 are instituted among men to protect those freedoms. And when a government becomes hostile to those

00:01:44.480 freedoms, it is the people's right and it is their duty to throw off the chains of that and create a

00:01:54.520 new government that is not hostile to those freedoms. So in other words, you can't break

00:02:01.340 away because you want to have slavery. But I think it's pretty clear you can break away if you want

00:02:08.160 to just live by the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, because the old government started

00:02:16.020 forgetting about the whole freedom thing. Well, I hate to even say that because people are going to say

00:02:22.260 he's he's he's advocating violence. He's saying we should go into a civil war, which I'm not saying

00:02:28.460 at all. Oh, my gosh, these people on the right, they're so dangerous. I know. Let's do something.

00:02:37.900 Let's do something safe, shall we? Let's just read the New Yorker and listen to their podcast

00:02:45.920 because they talk about books and things like that. And they had Andreas Malm on who is really

00:02:54.000 great. I just want you to listen. Here's cut one. Andreas Malm is a professor at Lund University

00:02:59.640 in Sweden. He studies the relationship between climate change and capitalism. Yeah. And he advocates

00:03:05.900 for far more drastic action than we've seen so far. Huh? His recent book, How to Blow Up a Pipeline,

00:03:12.020 is a bit more nuanced than the title suggests. But at its core, yeah, he really does want

00:03:17.680 environmental activists to rethink their commitment to nonviolence and embrace tactics of sabotage.

00:03:24.280 Stop just a second. Let me let me get this straight. So, Stu, I believe we have to discuss

00:03:29.140 this like this. I believe when he says it's more nuanced than the title really kind of leads

00:03:37.300 you to believe how to blow up a pipeline. It doesn't sound like it really does, that it is

00:03:44.900 more nuanced because he then just went and said, but it's more nuanced than, you know, the title would

00:03:51.880 seem. But but he really does want people to think about, you know, dumping the nonviolence thing.

00:03:59.140 Well, Glenn, the nuance that's associated with the title, How to Blow Up a Pipeline just,

00:04:06.740 of course, indicates that there are far more things that you can blow up. Oh, not just a pipeline. You

00:04:13.780 can blow up a pipeline. Thank you. A tanker ship chip. I can see things more clearly now that you speak

00:04:18.740 like this. You could blow up a bunch of school children who exhale CO2. All these things are options. Well,

00:04:25.780 there are a lot of environmentalism. Thank you very much. Back to the podcast.

00:04:30.900 I spoke with Andreas Malm last week. Andreas, you've been a climate activist now for a long time. And in

00:04:37.800 2007, you were part of a Swedish group that started deflating the tires on SUVs. Tell me about that.

00:04:46.460 What was the impulse and how did it work? Yeah, so what we did was we went through rich

00:04:53.520 neighborhoods and picked out SUVs. This was in the early career of SUVs when they were still

00:05:00.580 remarkable on streets before they were completely ubiquitous. And it's very easy to deflate the

00:05:07.520 tires of a car. You just unscrew the valve and you insert a little gravel or a piece of stone or

00:05:13.620 something like that. And then you screw the valve back on and then the air will be out of the tire in

00:05:19.460 a couple of hours. So this was not probably destruction. It didn't damage anything. It

00:05:24.600 created an inconvenience for the owners of SUVs. Okay. All right. All right. So this began his

00:05:32.620 journey towards civil disobedience, cut two. What was the moment that you realized that your next book

00:05:38.360 would have to be about targeted sabotage and why?

00:05:43.500 That moment was very much the summer of 2018, which was unprecedented in Northern Europe for the

00:05:50.800 wildfires and the drought and the heat wave. And during that summer, I felt panic and desperation,

00:05:58.540 as a lot of people did. This was the summer that led Greta Thunberg to start her later very famous 0.90

00:06:05.900 school strike movement. And that sort of changed the picture because in 2019, all the way up to the

00:06:11.440 outbreak of the pandemic, the climate movement of the global north reached its zenith of mobilization,

00:06:16.320 really its peak of popular force out on the streets. So the book became a product of the moment

00:06:23.860 of 2019. But it's also a call for escalation, a call for the movement to diversify its tactics

00:06:32.680 and move away from an exclusive focus on polite, gentle, and perfectly peaceful civil disobedience.

00:06:43.600 Right. Okay. So here's the left now on in the New Yorker and on the podcast talking about how we,

00:06:52.800 you know, it's not so bad to put rocks into people's airbag, air valves with gravel,

00:06:59.900 otherwise known as gravel, uh, and, uh, let the air out. It's a, it's an inconvenience,

00:07:05.820 sure, but it doesn't do any harm. But then now we really see that we really have to go away from

00:07:12.200 nonviolence because it's really not working. So here he is on blowing up a pipeline.

00:07:18.840 What actions are you recommending for the movement?

00:07:21.380 Well, I am recommending that the movement, uh, continues with mass action and civil disobedience,

00:07:29.140 but also opens up for property destruction. So I'm not saying we should stop strikes or,

00:07:34.720 or square occupations or demonstrations of the usual kind. I'm all in favor of that. But I do

00:07:41.100 think we need to step up because so little has changed and so many investments are still being

00:07:47.380 poured into new fossil fuel projects. So I am in favor of, of destroying machines, property,

00:07:53.720 not harming people. That's very, very important distinction. And I think property can be destroyed

00:08:02.120 in all manner of ways, or it can be neutralized in a, in a very gentle fashion as when we deflated

00:08:07.320 the SUVs or in a more spectacular fashion as in potentially blowing up a pipeline that's under

00:08:13.040 construction. That's something that people have done.

00:08:15.020 Yeah. So you are recommending blowing up a pipeline. You use the phrase intelligence

00:08:19.620 sabotage. What is, what does intelligence sabotage look like in this context?

00:08:24.560 Well, let me give you a very concrete example. Right now, Total, the largest single private

00:08:29.460 company headquartered in France is constructing what will be the world's longest heated oil pipeline

00:08:36.340 in Uganda and Tanzania. And displacing in that process about a hundred and thousand farmers,

00:08:42.340 all for the sake of carrying even more oil to the world market to pour fuel on the global

00:08:50.000 fire. If people in that region were to attack the construction equipment, blow up the pipeline

00:08:57.080 before it's completed, I would be all in favor of that. I don't see how that property damage

00:09:02.780 could be considered morally illegitimate, given what we know of the consequences of such a project.

00:09:10.920 So the ends justify the means, uh, is what he's saying here. Uh, remember you are the dangerous

00:09:17.060 one. We're just a bunch of journalists, uh, at the New Yorker that are just exploring different

00:09:22.780 ideas. Uh, today's idea blowing things up and destroying property. Very, very, very different

00:09:30.640 than killing people. Of course, uh, you know, uh, nobody was killed in, uh, the Capitol. Uh, well,

00:09:39.420 some, one person was killed, but that was by a police officer, but police officers in this case

00:09:44.480 are all good and should never be questioned. But the property was, uh, destroyed there in the Capitol.

00:09:51.200 And that is completely different than blowing up a pipeline.

00:09:56.160 Glenn, I will note for the listeners that machines don't run on their own. The people who show up to

00:10:06.580 work at these facilities are part of the machinery. They are basically parts of the machine. And if they

00:10:16.340 are parts of the machine, they also could be destroyed. Mechanics. Uh, and that, that sounds like

00:10:22.500 a machine to me, quite honestly. Yeah. Working on machines. If they are not there, then these

00:10:27.680 environmental, uh, cataclysms will not occur. So obviously killing people who work for these

00:10:34.640 companies at the mission, at the, at the site. And, and honestly, uh, those people wouldn't show up

00:10:39.520 if they were not paid. So the executives of the company are also fair targets. And to be clear,

00:10:47.280 maybe the banks, well, they found, they found anyone who works at a bank, I think would fall

00:10:51.760 street. Wall street would be a good target. Any shareholder of a company, uh, like this. Absolutely.

00:10:57.340 What about the companies that provide electricity and water to the banks, to these facilities? Uh,

00:11:04.160 they are basically guilty. Yeah. They're, they're feeding, they're giving aid and comfort to an enemy.

00:11:10.340 What if we killed all people other than us? Well, I think we don't, we didn't do these things.

00:11:16.580 We just, I've written out a plan. I've had, yeah. Oh yeah. We've had a plan for how to eliminate

00:11:22.180 people for a long time. I'm glad you brought this up because, oh, thank goodness. I've been

00:11:26.640 carrying this around for so long and you know, we all know, wink, wink, nod, nod. We're not going

00:11:31.960 to kill people. Oh my. Oh, that's rich. No, it's not rich. Rich, bad. Oh, I'm sorry. Rich is very,

00:11:40.660 very bad. Unless we're the ones that are rich. Then it's really, really good. You know what I

00:11:47.120 mean? Here's cut four. And yet climate activist groups like 350.org and Extinction Rebellion have

00:11:55.280 made clear that nonviolence is central to their approach. Do you think that's been a mistake or

00:12:00.760 a tactical error? Yeah. So I have nothing against the tactics employed by these groups. I have very

00:12:07.100 often participated in them myself. What I have a problem with is when Extinction Rebellion

00:12:11.760 and people from 350 and elsewhere say that these are the only things that our movement can

00:12:17.860 ever allow itself to engage in. As in, what we're doing is as far as we will ever go. We'll

00:12:25.400 never escalate beyond this. And I think that idea, this dogmatic commitment to nonviolence

00:12:32.980 is based on a faulty history writing or understanding of social struggles over history

00:12:40.360 because it's based on the idea that the only thing that has ever worked for social movements

00:12:44.760 is to stay completely peaceful. And that just isn't the case. Most social movements that have

00:12:50.200 struggled against overwhelming odds, against enemies that have been very powerful, have diversified

00:12:56.460 and used a number of different tactics ranging into property destruction and confrontation with

00:13:02.500 the police. You saw this during the uprising after the murder of George Floyd where there

00:13:07.300 was tremendous property destruction and conquering and burning down police stations in Minneapolis

00:13:12.680 and things like that. That was an integral part of an uprising that brought millions of people

00:13:17.900 into the streets of the U.S. than any other in American history.

00:13:21.100 Wow, that is amazing. It's weird that the left seems to know that.

00:13:25.240 But wait, I, I was told earlier, it was largely nonviolent, largely nonviolent, almost. I don't

00:13:33.180 think there was any, what I saw was people that were committed to a cause. By the way, the FCC needs

00:13:42.040 to investigate its own history of racism and examine how its policy choices and actions have harmed black

00:13:48.820 people and other communities of color. Now, this is coming from, uh, this is coming from a left-wing

00:13:55.620 group that is funded by the Center for American Progress and George Soros' Open Society Foundations.

00:14:01.760 Uh, they're, they're wonderful. They're called the Free Press. You might remember them. Um, but they said,

00:14:07.540 what do we have to do? Uh, do we have to, how many, how many are we going to have to just shoot

00:14:13.400 Republicans to reclaim our democracy? Now, you might think that that's violent. Um, but it's not

00:14:20.660 being covered in the press at all, even though that's a letter they wrote to the FCC. Are we going

00:14:25.520 to have to shoot Republicans to reclaim our democracy? Um, that is really not so important.

00:14:32.080 Okay. Uh, because they have a reason to do that. Things are really, really tough. And, uh, you know,

00:14:41.560 they're not just, they're not just saying, let's shoot Republicans. They're saying we have to reshape

00:14:47.700 the media. And that is so important. Uh, and if we can't get people to move, then maybe we should

00:14:55.320 shoot Republicans. And, uh, it's very nuanced. It's very nuanced. We have been telling people that

00:15:02.960 they're not allowed to have firearms. So how will we be shooting all the Republicans?

00:15:10.340 We'll have, uh, we can have them, right? We can have them. Oh yes, we can have them. We have them

00:15:15.540 and they can have them. That's right. That's right. That's right. We're part of the elite. I forgot.

00:15:18.740 Yes. Okay. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:15:25.320 I'm going to play a rant from Joe Rogan that I just think is inspiring. Now he's in trouble for

00:15:34.340 this because somebody made a video of it and then put some images to it that include the Nazis and

00:15:44.780 they're not happy. So Joe Rogan must pay, but listen to his words. As soon as you give politicians

00:15:52.380 power, any kind of power that didn't exist previously, if they can figure out a way to force

00:15:58.540 you into carrying something that lets you enter businesses or lets you do this or lets businesses

00:16:05.080 open, historically, they are not going to give that power up. They find new reasons to use power.

00:16:11.300 We have to protect those freedoms at all costs, whether you agree with people's choices or not,

00:16:16.880 because it is the foundation that this country was founded on. Freedom.

00:16:20.320 Freedom. This idea of freedom. There's so many people that think it's frivolous. It's not important.

00:16:26.860 It's not the main thing that we should be focused on, but it is the literal structure that allows this

00:16:32.840 country to be so f***ing amazing. Every single country that's ever existed other than the United

00:16:39.760 States. Up until 1776, every f***ing country that has ever existed was run by dictators. All of them.

00:16:48.820 This is the first experiment in self-government that actually worked, and it created the greatest

00:16:53.640 superpower the world's ever known. It created the greatest cultural machine, the greatest machine

00:16:58.400 of art and creativity and innovation right f***ing here. And how did it do that? It did it through

00:17:04.500 freedom. And as soon as you see something, anything that comes along and inhibits your freedom,

00:17:10.600 you should be very cautious about it. You should be very suspicious, because anything that comes

00:17:16.360 along that can inhibit your freedom is, by definition, anti-American.

00:17:22.560 All right, that's horrible, isn't it? That's horrible. Now, why is he in trouble? Why is he in trouble?

00:17:29.560 Because he says, you know, that anybody's trying to take your rights away. And as he's saying that

00:17:37.380 images of the Holocaust, and that apparently can't be done. Right. That's their big, their big line, 0.81

00:17:44.240 I guess. The group of people that told you that Donald Trump was Adolf Hitler for the past five years

00:17:50.760 now suddenly has problem with Holocaust comparisons. That is a, that's an interesting new discovery

00:17:57.920 from the left. I don't know how they came across it. Wow. And by the way, we should point out that Joe

00:18:04.200 Rogan didn't compare. No, that at all. He that's, that's the who the filmmaker who, who put images to

00:18:12.260 his words used to some Nazi, Nazi video. And a lot of other images too. Right. Dictators.

00:18:20.060 From dictators. Dictators. Whenever anyone starts to say, you know, certain things, those are signs

00:18:27.080 that you're on the wrong path. Right. The wrong path is the, is the best way to put this. Because

00:18:31.440 at the end of the path, if the end of the path is Nazi Germany, you don't take two steps down that 0.80

00:18:39.140 path. You don't take five steps down that path. You take zero steps down that path. You avoid the path

00:18:45.260 at all. No one is saying that currently we are in the middle of murdering millions of people.

00:18:52.860 However, when government takes control, sometimes bad people wind up with the power behind that

00:19:01.280 government and they are able to use those controls against the people. I will give you for the left,

00:19:06.860 an example of someone that might concern you with lots and lots of power. His name's Donald Trump.

00:19:12.220 Remember how much, you remember how you were saying he was Hitler? Well, what if he had all of this 0.99

00:19:17.080 power? What if you gave him all of that power? What if this person that you've been saying is Adolf

00:19:23.140 Hitler for five years? What if he had all of this power? How would you feel about it? This is why 0.99

00:19:29.160 it doesn't matter about the man. It doesn't matter who the person is. Doesn't matter the party. You

00:19:34.900 limit the country is designed so that no matter how crappy your president is, they can't do those

00:19:42.940 things. Right. No matter how crappy Congress or the Senate or the Supreme Court or anybody,

00:19:48.540 you can't do it. But it requires all of those people to stand with the Constitution of the United

00:19:54.740 States. And they're not. And they're not doing it because of their own power and their own money,

00:20:00.380 etc., etc. Or their own arrogance. They think they know better. And that's where dictators usually

00:20:08.340 start. They just know better than everyone else. And that's what we were designed to stop. And we're

00:20:15.500 the only one designed to stop it. Now, they say, you know, just because it's like a like Hitler doesn't

00:20:22.680 mean it's going to end in the Holocaust. Well, OK, but I don't really think that we should be going 0.94

00:20:29.300 down the German road in any way, shape or form. Yeah, it may not lead to the ovens, but I don't 0.96

00:20:39.260 think I want to even go down that road at all. I mean, maybe we'll have some strudel, but that's as

00:20:45.460 deep into Germany as I care to go. But if you look at the this this was developed by Genocide Watch 0.88

00:20:53.760 along with the United States Department of State, the eight stages of genocide.

00:21:02.660 And here they are. So would you say that we want to go down this road at all? Or if we want to make

00:21:10.500 sure that it never happens again, we shouldn't do any of these things. Here's step one. People are

00:21:19.640 divided into them and us. All right, well, that's been done. That's done. OK, so step one on our road

00:21:28.780 to the Holocaust has already been done. Step two, symbolization. When combined with hatred,

00:21:36.480 symbols may be forced upon unwilling members of pariah groups.

00:21:42.860 To combat symbolization, hate symbols can be legally prohibited as hate speech. OK, well,

00:21:50.240 I don't think that that that star has been sewn on to anybody. I think the hate symbol that has been

00:21:59.920 given by the left is the make America great hat. Anything that identifies you as a Trump supporter,

00:22:09.020 you are now part of a group that it's OK to hate. Would you agree with that?

00:22:15.520 Yeah, I would say that's true. I mean, you look at I mean, there's a there was an episode of curb your

00:22:25.400 enthusiasm from this past year where Larry David decided he didn't want to talk to people. So he

00:22:30.640 wore a MAGA hat so that people wouldn't talk to him anymore because he knew no one would want to

00:22:37.180 interact with him if he had it on. I mean, I think that that's obviously a comedic way of telling it.

00:22:42.140 But I think that that's kind of true. I think it is large swaths of the country. Oh, yeah.

00:22:45.940 Large swaths of the country. The other symbol that is OK to hate is not wearing a mask.

00:22:51.480 If you wear a mask, you're fine. You can scream at the person. You can scream at the person that's

00:22:56.300 not wearing a mask. Remember, we had that whole, you know, punch a Nazi movement for a while there. 0.64

00:23:01.420 It's, you know, related to the Antifa stuff where, you know, you see someone who you,

00:23:06.140 quote unquote, think is a fascist. It's OK to punch them, right? It's OK to attack them because

00:23:10.300 we're anti-fascists. So there is definitely a movement and a powerful one. So we're on that

00:23:18.320 road. Yeah, but we're not. We're not there. We're not officially assigning a symbol, but the symbols

00:23:24.480 exist. Discrimination is the third one. Law or cultural power. Law or cultural power excludes groups 0.95

00:23:34.300 from full civil rights segregation or apartheid laws. Denial of voting rights. OK, well, law or

00:23:42.660 cultural power. We have that denying groups full civil rights or segregation. We are now in our

00:23:51.300 colleges segregating. We're segregating instead of black people out. We're now segregating white 0.95

00:23:57.620 people out. New York City is most, most younger African-Americans are not allowed to go into

00:24:03.600 restaurants. Yes, you got it on that direction. So you have multiple places there. I mean, certainly

00:24:09.380 not full civil rights have eroded to that level. But again, you want to go down this road. You're

00:24:14.840 being told that their patience is running thin and you will not be able to do things if you don't have

00:24:21.500 the vaccine. They are. That's definitely again, that's not civil rights, but there there are

00:24:28.120 problems, right? Step four. We're halfway to the ovens. We're halfway to the ovens. No. Well,

00:24:35.660 you're saying this is half of this list. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But we haven't done all the

00:24:40.620 things so far on the list we've done. No, but some of them on the road. Yeah, we're on the road on all

00:24:44.860 of all of them so far. Right. For dehumanization. One group denies the humanity of the other group.

00:24:52.620 Members of it are equated with animals, vermin, insects or diseases. Already done. That's that's

00:24:58.740 done. I don't know that that's well, it's done by some by some. Like, for example, you watch Jimmy

00:25:05.040 Kimmel the other night saying like, let let the people who are unvaccinated die in the hospital.

00:25:09.500 It's not just Jimmy Kimmel. You have doctors saying that you have some. But I mean, I don't know that

00:25:13.640 that's the entire society or the entire apparatus of the government saying that, but it is it's

00:25:19.200 becoming more popular. Yes. Becoming more popular organization. This is where it this is where the

00:25:27.640 metal meets the road or the the rubber meets the road. You have terrible tires. You have the first

00:25:34.660 four and those can be done culturally or through official means. The four of these have been

00:25:43.640 done culturally. Now you get into organization. Genocide is always organized. Special army

00:25:50.180 units or militias are often trained and armed. I think we're going through that now with our

00:25:57.840 military and being trained on CRT. And, you know, they're out searching for people who are Trump

00:26:05.160 supporters because they're radicals, et cetera, et cetera. It's the beginning of it or what could be

00:26:11.920 the beginning of it. Do you disagree with that? I mean, I see what you're saying. I mean, the idea

00:26:18.600 that the the emphasis on domestic terrorism. Yes. Is a problem. I mean, does that mean that we have

00:26:27.120 organized militias going after? No, no, no. I'm not saying that. I'm saying this is the beginning.

00:26:31.720 The training is beginning to see things as parts of the country, however you vote, or if you won't

00:26:40.900 play along with the woke game, you're a problem. You're an extremist. That's the beginning of the

00:26:46.640 training. Then polarization, hate groups broadcast polarizing propaganda. But we're already doing that

00:26:55.760 right now in this program. That's what we do every day. No. Remember, I mean, I think that this is

00:27:01.780 coming from this is aimed at the victim group. And I think that propaganda is coming out already.

00:27:09.960 Preparation, mass killing is planned. Thank God. I don't think that's happening. Persecution. That's

00:27:15.900 when people are rounded up and put into ghettos or concentration camps and then extermination.

00:27:21.520 By the way, the 10th step. The perpetrators deny they committed any crime.

00:27:30.760 How hard that must be. You know, we've always seen this and we saw this in Germany.

00:27:37.940 And we still see this in Germany there. There, you know, people like I didn't have any. I know we

00:27:44.080 didn't do anything wrong. That was just that was what was going on. We didn't know how hard it must

00:27:50.180 be for the people who lived through that and know their new their neighbors did know.

00:27:56.260 I mean, how many times do we have people denying things like, for instance, right now, the Democrats

00:28:01.600 not anywhere in the scale, but the Democrats denying that they were the ones that were holding kids out

00:28:08.240 of school, but they were the ones they now claim they were fighting for the schools to be open.

00:28:13.140 It was the evil Republicans that were trying to keep the schools closed.

00:28:17.660 I mean, how do how do you survive that? How do you I mean, how do you make that so your brain just

00:28:22.220 doesn't explode?

00:28:24.440 And I'll say like it as important it is to warn about these roads. It's also important to note,

00:28:30.180 you know, like it doesn't things it does things are standing in the way still big things. We have a

00:28:35.280 constitutional structure that stops this. We have great people in the military and our in our police that

00:28:41.220 stop this. And like, look, I'll be honest, you know, everyday life. It seems normal. I mean,

00:28:46.980 I like these things escalate slowly, but these problems are problems that you you get rid of

00:28:53.260 now now. So you don't worry about these bigger problems. Correct. Correct. And as Edwin Black told

00:28:58.940 me, these problems we have, this means the Holocaust may never, ever come to America. 0.85

00:29:07.900 But it also means that we've done a lot of the work where it could happen tomorrow. We just have

00:29:15.720 to be aware of when you're polarizing, when you're dividing, when you are excluding people,

00:29:21.820 when you're denying the humanity of people, you are on the same road. And once enough people are

00:29:29.200 convinced of those things, then the government can make the rest of it happen quickly.

00:29:37.900 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:29:49.920 19 time Emmy winner John Stossel hailed by the Dallas Morning News as the most consistently

00:29:55.640 thought provoking TV reporter of our time. And then he then he figured out that regulation causes

00:30:03.080 more problems and decided to report on how the government is really screwing things up. And

00:30:09.440 that's when things went bad for John, but went great for America. John Stossel joins us now. Hi,

00:30:15.640 John, how are you? Great for America. Wow, I wish I had that much power. I think you have had a

00:30:23.480 massive impact, John. I think you've had a massive impact on America. You know, I've watched you for

00:30:29.820 years and years and the things that you, uh, you exposed, I think changed a lot of people open their

00:30:37.080 eyes. Not, you know, not all of the, you know, party people in New York and all the people that,

00:30:42.860 you know, are fashionable, but I think a lot of regular Americans. Why are you suing Facebook now?

00:30:48.260 Well, I, I don't like lawsuits, um, but it's just unbelievable what Facebook is doing. Now, some of what

00:30:58.660 we complain about, they can do legally. They can take people off if they want. Uh, they can censor

00:31:08.320 subjects like whether the virus might've been man-made in China. Uh, that's legal, but it's not legal,

00:31:16.300 legal for them to just lie about people. And that's what they've done about me with the help

00:31:23.540 of their fact checker, which, uh, they have a bunch, but a big group called science feedback,

00:31:31.540 climate feedback. Oh yeah. That. Yeah. And they made up a quote about me. They put it in quote,

00:31:41.100 something I never said. And when we pointed this out to them, they just don't change it.

00:31:46.780 And when we try to talk to Facebook, they say, uh, uh, well, here's how our algorithm works

00:31:53.000 and they don't change it. And it's just a lie. And that is illegal. And I thought, well,

00:31:59.840 I should, with a lawsuit, teach them that they just can't do that. That's defamation.

00:32:05.720 So how are you planning on going up against, I mean, Facebook has more money than God. Um,

00:32:11.520 you have good attorneys. I mean, what are the chances of one guy standing up against them

00:32:17.620 that they, that you win?

00:32:22.060 Small, but the lawyers took it because in my case, it wasn't just about an unfairness.

00:32:29.380 It was a flat out lie. And that is defamation, but you're right. It's going to cost me a lot of

00:32:37.160 money and take a long time and who knows, but I thought I'd try. Yeah. Well, thank you for doing

00:32:45.240 that. Um, tell me, uh, tell me a little bit about, um, what your thoughts are on the virus and the

00:32:52.260 vaccine and all of this there. America is so strangely split on this because it became all about

00:32:59.060 politics. So what are your thoughts on that, John? I was listening to what you just said about that

00:33:07.400 Biden on 98%. That's just not going to happen. And the country is different from how it's been

00:33:15.820 before. There's the level of hatred on the part of people around me for anybody who listens to you,

00:33:23.060 listens to Fox doesn't, maybe doesn't get vaccinated. It's just, they are in a rage.

00:33:31.520 What's it? I mean, I'm working on a video on this. I release a new video every Tuesday and we're

00:33:38.320 researching different countries and China and Australia are a little bit like America at its

00:33:44.940 worst in terms of lockdown, but Denmark just lifted all restrictions. Yep. Belgium has all just

00:33:53.000 allowed people to be maskless. Sweden eliminated almost all restrictions. Britain just got rid of

00:34:00.060 its plans to create a vaccine passport. So many countries are wising up and saying, look, this is

00:34:06.600 never going to go away. Uh, there's always going to be some around and we have to resume normal life.

00:34:14.120 And by doing that, people will get COVID, but it doesn't kill most of them. And people will acquire

00:34:19.700 natural immunity. And that's the only way to move on. What do you think about how Americans and the

00:34:27.860 world have reacted to this? I mean, I remember when it was breaking out in Beijing and if you remember

00:34:33.900 right, there were times that they were welding people into their, into their homes, they were

00:34:38.400 sealing these iron doors so people couldn't leave their homes. Uh, and I remember saying on the air,

00:34:45.000 this would never, we would never put up with this kind of stuff here in America. We're two years into

00:34:51.740 this and we're still putting up with it. What happened to us, John? We became wimps. Now,

00:34:59.580 in fairness, we're not locking, nailing people into their houses. No. And we're not as bad even as

00:35:06.080 Australia, which has come close to China. Um, on the other hand, those countries have stopped deaths.

00:35:15.100 And some people think the only thing that matters in life is whether you die of COVID and then China

00:35:22.340 and Australia have winning arguments at the moment. It's three deaths per million people in China,

00:35:27.620 40 in Australia versus 400 in Denmark and 2000 per million in the United States. So, so far they're

00:35:38.740 saving lives with this repression. Yeah. But I mean, if you want to use that logic, then we should take

00:35:44.060 every car off the road. We should take every pool out of every backyard. We should take every steak

00:35:48.380 knife out of every dishwasher. Very true. And certainly forbid people from driving in the rain.

00:35:57.620 John Stossel, always good to talk to you, sir. Uh, when do you go to court? Do you know?

00:36:02.680 Ah, um, 400 years from now. That's our legal system.

00:36:09.700 Good to talk to you, John. Thanks a lot. You too.

00:36:12.260 Yeah. John Stossel, uh, suing Facebook, um, over defamation and he's absolutely right. And that

00:36:18.900 climate group has been responsible for, um, getting us banned or having our hands slapped or whatever

00:36:26.300 it actually turned out to be. Remember there was something, they were claiming that we said

00:36:31.280 something that we never said. We never said, but we quoted, uh, something that was accurate that came

00:36:38.500 out of a, a study where in that study, they said in that study, this particular quote, we didn't even

00:36:47.520 know it was in the study. We had nothing to do with that quote. Um, we weren't quoting it. We weren't

00:36:52.920 even holding up the study. We were just using that as a footnote on where we got that particular

00:36:58.380 information. All the information in the study was accurate. That quote is what they disagreed with.

00:37:04.220 And they attributed it to us said we were, we were saying that we never said that. Yeah. The problem

00:37:10.140 with a lot of these groups is they're just sloppy, let alone ideological and antagonistic to

00:37:16.200 conservative values. They're just bad at their jobs too, which is a pretty big problem when you're

00:37:21.820 talking about the livelihood of a business. You know, I mean, you know, John Stossel, he, you know,

00:37:27.120 as he said, he releases a new video every Tuesday. Um, you know, like when you throw them off of,

00:37:32.580 uh, off of these platforms, how do you, how do people see them? How do people see his work?

00:37:36.580 You don't, you don't.

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