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00:00:00.000 Great podcast for you today. We cover all of the bases. We start with William Barr and his

00:00:05.680 unbelievable exit and his nice little note to America. You know, Bill, I think you got a job

00:00:13.480 that you kind of left undone there. Maybe that's just me. Also, Steve Dace. We talk about what

00:00:20.240 happened on the floor of the Senate today, officially recognizing Joe Biden as the president

00:00:26.060 elect. We went through all the emotions today, and I think you'll relate to today's podcast.

00:00:37.860 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:00:44.800 I'm just going to go over the the report that the state of Michigan tried to keep from the

00:00:54.000 American people and they they wanted this to be, you know, buried. And then the secretary of state

00:01:00.600 of Michigan, when she found out that it was going to be released because the courts said they had to

00:01:06.160 release it, that that's when she said, well, it's it's not quite as simple as everyone is saying

00:01:13.660 that there was voter fraud. Really? OK. All right. Well, let's let's not let's go for the real

00:01:19.640 context here. Let's read the report. My name is Russell James Ramsland, Jr. I am a resident of

00:01:28.420 Dallas County, Texas. I hold an MBA from Harvard, a political science degree from Duke. I've worked

00:01:34.700 with the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, otherwise known as NASA and the

00:01:40.440 Massachusetts Institute of Technology, MIT, among other organizations. I run businesses all over the

00:01:47.640 world, many of which are highly technical in nature. I've served on technical government panels.

00:01:53.100 I'm also part of the management team of Allied Security Operations Group, LLC.

00:01:58.740 This is a group of globally engaged professionals who come from various disciplines, including the

00:02:04.200 Department of Defense, Secret Service, Department of Homeland Security, CIA. It provides a range of

00:02:10.520 security services and has a particular emphasis on cybersecurity, open source investigation and

00:02:17.320 penetration testing of networks. We employ a wide variety of cyber and cyber forensic analysis,

00:02:24.160 and we have patents, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I have relied for this report on these experts

00:02:32.060 and resources. Purpose and preliminary conclusions. The purpose of this forensic audit is to test the

00:02:41.060 integrity of Dominion voting system and how it performed in Antrim County, Michigan for the 2020

00:02:47.880 election. Here's the conclusion. We conclude that the Dominion voting system is intentionally and

00:02:58.200 purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systematic fraud and influence election results.

00:03:05.920 The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots

00:03:13.040 are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no

00:03:22.020 oversight, no transparency, no transparency, and best of all, no audit trail. This leads to the vote or election

00:03:31.480 fraud. Based on our study, we conclude that Dominion voting system should not be in use in Michigan. We further

00:03:38.920 conclude that the results of Antrim County should not be certified. The Antrim County clerk and Secretary of State,

00:03:46.720 Jocelyn Benson, have stated that the election night error detailed by the vote by the above vote flip from

00:03:55.180 Trump to Biden. Do you remember this was a where that spike happened? And it was just, no, those spikes are

00:04:01.280 normal. And that flip that happens all the time. You can expect that. And that was without one particular

00:04:07.100 one where it flipped from Trump to Biden. That was just a clerical error that we caught right away. And we adjusted

00:04:14.960 that right away. Well, listen to what he has to say here. The county clerk and Secretary of State,

00:04:22.640 Jocelyn Benson, have stated that the election night error was the result of human error caused by a

00:04:31.060 failure to update the Barcelona Township tabulator prior to the election night for down ballot race.

00:04:38.100 We disagree and conclude that the vote flip occurred because of machine error built into the voting software designed to

00:04:48.820 create error. Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's statement, November 6, 2020, that the correct results always were and

00:04:57.320 continue to be reflected in the tabulated totals and the tape, quote, was false.

00:05:04.560 The allowable election error rate established by the FEC, the guidelines is out of every one in 250

00:05:14.500 ballots or 0.008%. So in other words, every 250 people that vote, 250,000, yeah, 250,000 people who vote,

00:05:26.560 one might be an error. But we observed an error rate of 68%. That means for every 100 people that vote, not 100,000, every 100

00:05:39.860 people that vote, 68 of those votes are in error. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election

00:05:51.700 integrity. Gee, you think? The results of in Andrum County 2020 election are not certifiable. This is a result of machine error and or

00:06:04.560 software error, but not human error. The tabulation log for the forensic examination of the server for Andrum County from

00:06:12.800 December 6, 2020 consists of 15,676 individual events, of which 10,667 or 68% of the events were recorded errors. These errors

00:06:30.640 resulted in overall tabulation errors or ballots being sent to adjudication. This high error rate proves the Dominion voting

00:06:39.040 system is flawed and does not meet state or federal election laws. These errors occurred after the Andrum County

00:06:48.200 clerk provided a repovisioned CF card with uploaded software for the Central Lake Precinct on December 6. This means the

00:06:59.340 statement by the secretary, Secretary Benson, was again false. The Dominion voting system produced systematic errors and

00:07:08.200 high error rates both prior to the update and after the update, meaning the update or lack of update is not the cause of

00:07:19.200 errors. He goes into specifics, he shows different ballots, etc, etc. He says that out of, you know, out of out of all of the

00:07:34.920 ballots, 68 were spit out of the machine. And that allowed people to look at them and refeed them into the machine and they were

00:07:43.880 supposed to do something with them and they never did. They also failed to upload the or update the system. A purposeful lack of

00:07:53.980 providing basic computer security updates in the system software and hardware demonstrates incompetence, gross negligence,

00:08:01.920 bad faith and or willful noncompliance in providing the fundamental system security required by federal and state law. There is no way this

00:08:14.920 election management system could have passed any of the tests or have been legally certified to conduct the 2020 election in

00:08:24.920 Michigan under the current laws. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, Michigan requires full

00:08:31.920 compliance with federal standards as determined by federally accredited voting system laboratory. Significantly, this computer

00:08:39.920 system shows vote adjudication logs for prior years, but all adjudication log entries for the 2020 election cycle are missing.

00:08:50.920 Wait a minute. The lack of records prevent any form of audit accountability and their conspicuous absence is extremely suspicious since the files exist for previous years using the same software. Now they know they go into how somebody went in in between the night of the election and two days after the election.

00:09:18.920 And deleted a lot of information. The computer system shows vote adjudication log for prior years to 2020 are there. However, the vote adjudication logs for 2020 are missing. The lack of records prevents any form of audit accountability.

00:09:42.920 The removal of these files violates state law and prevents a meaningful audit. Even if the secretary wanted to conduct an audit. We must conclude that the 2020 election cycle records have been manually removed. Likewise, all server logs prior to 1103 PM on November 4th are missing. This means that all security logs for the day after the

00:10:12.900 election on election on election day and prior to the election day are gone. Security logs are very important to an audit trail forensics and detecting advanced persistent threats and outside attacks, especially on systems with outdated system files.

00:10:31.660 These logs would contain dominion domain controls, authentication, authentication failures, error codes, times users logged on and off network connections to file servers between file access and internet connections, times and data transfers.

00:10:50.080 So everything that could prove who went in and made everything disappear has also disappeared.

00:10:58.080 On November 21st, an unauthorized user unsuccessfully attempted to zero out all of the election results. This demonstrates additional tampering with data.

00:11:10.080 How, how, how, how, how exactly Facebook, Google, New York times, am I, am I losing the context here?

00:11:22.960 Well, what exactly is the context that's needed to understand this story as no big deal?

00:11:32.680 Can you think of a context? Cause I can't think of a context. I, I've been looking for one.

00:11:39.200 I just can't find it. Isn't that weird?

00:11:51.300 See, here's the problem.

00:11:55.040 Nobody's actually looking for the truth.

00:11:59.960 You are.

00:12:02.000 I am.

00:12:03.080 I have to tell you, if Donald Trump would lose legitimately, I'd have no problem.

00:12:10.580 I would say, get out, knock this off, get out.

00:12:14.680 But I don't have any clue as to how much and how many votes were tampered with.

00:12:25.340 And it, I don't know, it just, it fuels the reason to look into things when every county that is a bellwether county went with him with historic changes like winning Florida and Ohio.

00:12:45.640 No other president has ever done that and not become president, except in 1961 when there was election fraud in Chicago.

00:12:55.960 How about the fact that all these irregularities, they all happened in progressive strongholds?

00:13:05.560 I mean, if they were happening in, you know, Lubbock, Texas, if they were happening in places that were controlled by Democrats, by Republicans, anywhere.

00:13:17.120 Can you show me anywhere?

00:13:19.540 But it just happens to be these strongholds and just happens to be the four states that just kind of threw everything out the window.

00:13:32.480 I am not one to deny the legitimate president.

00:13:40.100 I've I didn't say that about Barack Obama.

00:13:43.300 I, you know, the, the left says that about every Republican president, George Bush selected, non-elected, uh, Donald Trump, not legitimate.

00:13:55.380 He had help from Russia.

00:13:58.040 Well, wait.

00:13:59.660 And then everybody that you vote for is absolutely clean.

00:14:05.080 I, I'm sorry.

00:14:06.780 You can't have that.

00:14:08.240 And it leaves us in this place to where, okay, what do we do?

00:14:15.560 Well, you can't do anything without proof.

00:14:20.860 Now, this is proof, but proof of what?

00:14:24.200 That one state, one county?

00:14:28.060 Do you have proof enough to show that the votes, that there's enough out there to change the outcome?

00:14:38.240 So far, I haven't seen it.

00:14:40.500 And here's the real problem.

00:14:42.380 You're not going to.

00:14:43.460 This is like showing up at a murder and then having everybody going, well, who did it?

00:14:48.400 Who did it?

00:14:49.840 And then the murderer who might or might not be in the room says, you can't prove any of that.

00:14:56.320 I'm innocent.

00:14:57.940 No, police would say, well, no, wait a minute.

00:15:00.480 Let's give the investigation some time.

00:15:02.680 But there is no time.

00:15:05.260 And there is nothing in the Constitution that shows if you prove this after he's seated as president, that you can do anything about it.

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00:16:17.500 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:16:29.740 America's leading skeptic, John Ziegler, joins us now with the 10 most important COVID-related questions,

00:16:37.900 which the news media is ignoring.

00:16:41.060 Welcome to the program, John.

00:16:42.260 How are you?

00:16:43.380 I'm all right.

00:16:43.900 Always good to talk to you, Glenn.

00:16:44.960 So we published this at Glenn Beck dot com because I think these are important questions and you have provided some answers to them.

00:16:54.620 And no one is willing to ask these questions, let alone answer them accurately.

00:17:00.760 So can we go through them?

00:17:03.000 Yeah, sure.

00:17:03.660 Well, first, just for some background, I mean, I'm a senior columnist at Mediate and I submitted this to Mediate.

00:17:10.300 I've had a very good relationship with them for five years.

00:17:12.940 And I actually pulled it from the process because I have learned now in COVID that this is beyond a third rail issue and that there are certain things now that are almost impossible to discuss in the so-called mainstream New York based media.

00:17:32.660 And I knew that this was going to be eviscerated via the editing process.

00:17:37.060 And I said, you know what, let's let's not do this.

00:17:40.220 I didn't want to get into a big fight.

00:17:42.260 I wanted to maintain the relationship.

00:17:43.960 And so I asked you, hey, Glenn, maybe you could find a home for this.

00:17:48.800 Yeah, absolutely.

00:17:50.060 And thankfully you did.

00:17:51.360 So, yeah, it's at Glenn Beck dot com.

00:17:52.940 By the way, there is also the raw report on the voting machines in Michigan.

00:17:58.880 The raw report is what you should read, because the stories I read today, they all said, well, that's taken out of context and that's not really what the report said.

00:18:07.960 So read the report.

00:18:09.060 It's posted at Glenn Beck dot com.

00:18:10.940 And so is this.

00:18:12.140 And this is really important.

00:18:14.360 And when we live in a society where you can't ask questions, there's a real problem with freedom in that country.

00:18:22.180 And it's only getting worse.

00:18:23.880 So let's go through some of these.

00:18:25.480 Yeah, well, I start with what does the recent surge in cases say about the effectiveness of lockdown?

00:18:31.020 So it seems like a pretty simple question.

00:18:32.560 It sure does.

00:18:33.480 I mean, I start this column by admitting that, you know, I, along with a lot of the people who thought in late September, October,

00:18:40.960 that maybe there was such a thing as low threshold herd immunity and that maybe we would hit this sooner than thought by the so-called experts.

00:18:48.780 I admit, guess what?

00:18:50.120 Looks like we were wrong.

00:18:51.640 But why doesn't the other side get forced to at least examine whether or not they were wrong about the issue of whether or not lockdowns are effective?

00:19:00.600 Well, you're seeing lockdowns and between 91 and 97 percent mask wearing, especially in these these states that are really locked down.

00:19:12.580 But you've got a 91 percent or 92 percent mask wearing with the population here in Dallas.

00:19:21.740 It's higher in other places.

00:19:23.460 So how could you be in lockdown, be wearing masks and tell me that those things are effective when the numbers are going up?

00:19:31.340 Not just a little bit.

00:19:32.820 I mean, these numbers are one of the things we've learned is that guess what?

00:19:36.620 During the summer, this basically barely existed.

00:19:38.600 I mean, in comparison to what we have now, if you believe totally in the data now, there are problems with the data.

00:19:44.940 That's another question that the media won't answer.

00:19:48.160 But we have no introspection at all as to whether or not the most recent surge eviscerates the entire concept of lockdowns.

00:19:56.160 And that leads to the second question is, what's the collateral damage of these lockdowns?

00:20:00.460 You know, Glenn, I have two young children.

00:20:02.460 I thought we were living in a society, mostly for better, sometimes for worse, where it's all about the kids, right?

00:20:09.480 All about the kids.

00:20:10.640 That has been completely abandoned and forgotten for the last 10 months.

00:20:15.520 Much of what we're doing here is literal child abuse, whether it's keeping kids out of schools and all sorts of other things that were not almost everything we do within a lockdown targets kids.

00:20:28.940 Anything that's fun, apparently, the COVID really targets.

00:20:31.760 That's one of the things I've learned in the last 10 months.

00:20:34.240 And so we never talk anything in the media about increased suicides, increased child abuse, increased drug abuse.

00:20:42.460 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:20:44.420 I have read in mainstream sources that there is no suicide increase.

00:20:49.860 All of this stuff is nonsense.

00:20:51.680 I've read it.

00:20:52.600 I've read it.

00:20:53.460 Yeah, well, there's been all sorts of both data points as well as specific stories that in a normal media environment would have caught fire where people would have rallied to the cause.

00:21:08.280 Whoa, what are we doing to our kids?

00:21:09.820 But that has been foreboding here because it makes people question the narrative.

00:21:14.580 And you know how nervous I get when people in the news media dive into and get emotionally invested into a narrative early on because then there's no going back.

00:21:23.940 And I predicted early on with COVID that that's what would happen here.

00:21:27.920 And you've already referenced it.

00:21:30.480 To me, the most bizarre element of this entire narrative, and this is a tough battle to pick, which was the most bizarre.

00:21:36.200 But the investment in masks by the mainstream news media is just so strange, given the fact that, you know, St. Dr. Fauci said in March that they don't work and that people shouldn't be wearing them and that this was the conventional wisdom among the scientific community.

00:21:52.160 And I predicted on your show a couple months ago that the whole mask thing would be the cover story that the left uses to show that they were able to finally defeat the virus.

00:22:02.280 And Joe Biden has vindicated that by declaring we're going to have 100 days of mask wearing.

00:22:06.900 100 days, by the way, very science-y.

00:22:08.620 Yeah, it is.

00:22:09.560 It is.

00:22:10.220 Very science-y number that he picked out of his backside.

00:22:13.660 And so why is there no questioning why masks are not helping in the data?

00:22:18.980 Not just recently, but there are literally hundreds.

00:22:22.940 And I'm sure you're aware of this, and probably most of your listeners are.

00:22:25.120 There are hundreds of data charts from not just around the United States, but around the world that make you not just question whether or not masks work, make you question whether or not masks are actually harming us with regard to the data.

00:22:38.480 I mean, I can't find one.

00:22:40.760 Now, there's been a couple they've tried to manipulate and cherry-pick, you know, one in Kansas, Arizona, Tennessee.

00:22:48.040 But those are easily explained as being incredibly weak sauce.

00:22:53.520 Why are masks not helping at all?

00:22:56.840 And the media is simply not going to ask that question because, let's be clear why, because the woke world dove into masks as a virtue signal against Trump.

00:23:07.820 And once that happened, it was all over.

00:23:11.380 Because now the left-wing media, mainstream media, is controlled by woke Twitter.

00:23:16.580 I mean, the woke Twitter basically edits the New York Times now as insane as that is.

00:23:21.220 And so once that happens, you are not allowed to say anything.

00:23:25.700 That Danish mask study comes out and says basically masks do nothing.

00:23:29.360 And the New York Times changed their headline to say, well, the study says they don't really work, but you should still wear them anyway.

00:23:35.840 That was actually in the headline, Glenn.

00:23:37.900 I mean, that's the level of insanity here.

00:23:40.780 And so that's one of the big questions the media won't ask.

00:23:44.200 And then one of the ones that I probably, one of the few that have written about, and I did so early on at Media, because I live here in California, and it never made any sense to me.

00:23:54.780 How in the world, considering all our connections to China, specifically in Los Angeles and San Francisco, that California would have been one of the last states to have a major outbreak here?

00:24:04.960 How is that possible?

00:24:05.880 And so my question is, if COVID was around way before March, what does that really mean?

00:24:10.580 Well, we now know from all sorts of sources, including a Red Cross blood test study, that this thing was here in December.

00:24:19.900 And by the way, anecdotally, I had hundreds of people tell me that they thought they had this in California in the December, January area.

00:24:27.020 And so what does that mean?

00:24:29.340 Why won't we at least ask that question?

00:24:31.720 My gosh, here in California, Glenn, the entire month of February in the Los Angeles area were Kobe Bryant memorials, where people were hugging and kissing.

00:24:42.080 And there was an indoor massive memorial on February 24th, and nothing happened.

00:24:48.220 Nobody even recognized anything.

00:24:50.440 Nobody knew anything was happening.

00:24:51.980 We had a Los Angeles marathon, I think it was March 7th or March 9th.

00:24:57.540 Then the state closed down a week and a half later.

00:25:00.920 This is a question, I don't know what the answer is.

00:25:03.900 Maybe it took a lot longer to spread than we think.

00:25:07.180 But shouldn't somebody be asking what this means, that we just went through an entire winter where this was circulating and nobody noticed?

00:25:15.800 Here's the one that I think that you asked that is really important because it's the mask thing.

00:25:22.080 They're saying now, even if you get the vaccine, you need to wear the mask because the virus could live in your nose and you'd be asymptomatic and it will spread.

00:25:33.760 Glenn, you have to put your finger on the most maddening element of the world.

00:25:39.880 There's so many of the vaccine questions.

00:25:42.620 And by the way, I'm going to be on Bill O'Reilly's show later today talking about the vaccine element of this.

00:25:48.200 The idea that somehow the vaccine changes nothing.

00:25:52.820 This is the narrative that they're now spreading.

00:25:54.840 That we still have to do the mask thing.

00:25:56.600 We still have to do social distancing because you can still spread it.

00:25:59.440 When, by the way, and one of my questions is what's the real evidence of significant asymptomatic spread to begin with, even without the vaccine?

00:26:06.520 I mean, Fauci said in January that that's never the driver of a viral spread.

00:26:12.720 What happened to that?

00:26:13.740 Almost everything we do is about the potential of asymptomatic spread.

00:26:18.220 There was a study out yesterday and getting asymptomatic spread is very, very low and very rare, just as the World Health Organization said.

00:26:25.760 And then they had to walk it back because it was so politically incorrect.

00:26:28.980 But what you just said is so important.

00:26:31.300 And to me, it proves this is about governmental control.

00:26:35.920 They told us we had to wait for the vaccine.

00:26:39.100 And no, no, no.

00:26:40.280 Even the vaccine is not going to be good enough.

00:26:42.600 Because, by the way, the math now, the math on this, if we were doing even third grade math,

00:26:48.220 we would know that if everybody over the age of 55 or even 70 percent of the people over 55 got a vaccine, this thing is over.

00:26:56.700 It's over because there's not going to be any significant level of death, assuming that the vaccine is anything close to as efficient as they say that it is.

00:27:05.680 And right now, I have no reason to doubt that.

00:27:07.820 I hope it is.

00:27:08.960 But that's just remarkable to me because that leads to the next question, which is, what is the average age of COVID death?

00:27:14.820 And this almost gets, you know, it's very serious, but there's a comical element of this.

00:27:19.240 I mean, when you Google anything, Glenn, as you know, you Google the most ridiculous questions in the world, and Google has an answer right there for you.

00:27:26.340 If you Google what's the average age of death in America for COVID, you don't get an answer.

00:27:32.520 You literally do not get an answer.

00:27:34.400 You get a link to a CDC chart that still doesn't give you the answer.

00:27:41.440 You have to surmise what the median, you can't even get the average.

00:27:45.640 You can get the median, which is about, it looks to me like 79 or 80, depending on how you do the math.

00:27:52.760 And by the way, in many specific states who do give you that information, it's higher than 80.

00:27:57.600 In many countries, it's as high as 86.

00:28:00.700 That ought to matter.

00:28:02.260 That ought to be the first and second question.

00:28:04.340 How many people are dying because of this?

00:28:06.560 The second is, how old are they?

00:28:08.540 Yes.

00:28:08.640 I mean, because the average age of death in America is 78 years old.

00:28:13.600 I'm sorry.

00:28:14.580 When the average age of death of a virus is older than the average age of death, period, that's a significant fact.

00:28:23.720 So hang on just a second.

00:28:26.100 Hang on just a second.

00:28:26.680 Because I've got to stop you.

00:28:27.580 I have a network break.

00:28:28.660 I want you to answer one more question.

00:28:30.280 I've got about a minute for you to answer it.

00:28:33.480 All of these questions and all of these answers, there's more, are posted right now at glenbeck.com.

00:28:39.080 And we should be sending this to everyone.

00:28:42.260 Answer these questions.

00:28:44.880 This one.

00:28:45.680 What happened to the flu?

00:28:46.920 Listen to this.

00:28:48.900 Yeah, the flu is amazing.

00:28:50.420 I mean, if you go to the CDC website, the entire country is green, which usually happens in the middle of summer.

00:28:56.140 When there is no flu, it disappeared.

00:28:58.900 It does not exist.

00:28:59.920 Now, I'm not suggesting that everything we're seeing right now is because the flu has been renamed COVID.

00:29:05.300 But something is going on here.

00:29:07.580 And the left, of course, is telling you, well, it's because of masks and social distancing.

00:29:10.840 Well, you can't have it both ways.

00:29:12.540 You can't say that our most recent surge is because we've stopped following the rules all of a sudden, which is ludicrous.

00:29:18.120 When, you know, when obviously if that's the case with the flu, it would be happening with COVID, too.

00:29:23.280 Something doesn't add up and no one's asking the right questions, Glenn.

00:29:26.680 Thank you very much, John Ziegler.

00:29:28.520 Thank you for remaining a skeptic.

00:29:30.300 You can read that now at Glenn Beck dot com.

00:29:33.000 Thanks, John.

00:29:36.020 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:29:38.000 And we really want to thank you for listening.

00:29:39.720 There is a vacuum of leadership in this nation, a huge vacuum of leadership, especially on the right.

00:29:52.820 You know, who's your leader?

00:29:53.840 Donald Trump's gone.

00:29:54.720 Who's the leader?

00:29:56.100 Mitch McConnell.

00:29:57.600 Who's who's leadership?

00:29:59.860 Who is coming out and speaking to people right now?

00:30:04.820 Donald Trump needs to speak to his people.

00:30:08.980 He needs to address the part of the nation that has been behind him and is supporting him because there is no other leader.

00:30:20.420 And without a leader, we will perish.

00:30:25.020 Because everybody will say, I've got an idea.

00:30:27.180 I'm going to do this.

00:30:28.120 I'm going to do that.

00:30:28.940 And some whack job is going to do something.

00:30:32.320 And they are waiting for this.

00:30:35.280 I mean, it's it's it's interesting that the transition integrity project said at the end of this by January 20th, they assumed that Donald Trump was going to win.

00:30:51.320 And in that scenario, by January 20th, they were threatening secession in their war games and they had convinced states to secede by January 20th.

00:31:02.760 Well, it looks like that's where we're kind of headed, isn't it?

00:31:11.320 Except you don't have any leadership.

00:31:13.660 They had it war game.

00:31:15.580 They planned.

00:31:16.440 And who would lead this great secession?

00:31:22.420 You know, as we talked to Alan West, he said just yesterday on this program, this is.

00:31:29.760 It's not we're not.

00:31:31.660 Why would we leave the country?

00:31:34.600 We believe in the Constitution.

00:31:36.760 We believe in the balance of power.

00:31:38.840 We believe in truth, justice in the American way.

00:31:42.600 We don't want fascism.

00:31:44.480 We want the Constitution and we want it applied to everyone.

00:31:49.140 We actually believe all men are created equal.

00:31:51.860 I don't want a master.

00:31:54.020 No man should have a master.

00:31:57.100 We didn't leave the country.

00:32:01.080 Washington left us.

00:32:04.880 The politicians left us.

00:32:08.840 The power apparatus left us.

00:32:12.840 Well, where's your leader?

00:32:17.740 You cannot move forward without a leader.

00:32:22.920 You can't move towards peace or mayhem without a Malcolm X or a Martin Luther King.

00:32:31.420 Without a Robespierre or a George Washington.

00:32:36.620 Where are they?

00:32:40.360 I can find the Robespierre on the left.

00:32:44.020 They have a clear apparatus.

00:32:46.300 They're all set up for it.

00:32:47.560 But how do you even get people to listen to you if you are going to be silenced immediately online?

00:32:56.920 Donald Trump needs to step up and say, here's the deal.

00:33:06.840 You're going to accept that Joe Biden is the president, but I'm going to continue to fight and I'm with you all the way.

00:33:17.120 But we're still a nation.

00:33:19.020 And we're going to work to change it and change it.

00:33:24.800 We will.

00:33:25.860 That would be very helpful.

00:33:27.020 He could step to the plate and say, I don't accept this and I am I'm going out in flames.

00:33:36.480 Not real helpful.

00:33:37.800 Don't think that that's what he would do, but at least we know.

00:33:41.300 We need to hear from the president and he needs to speak to people.

00:33:50.860 Because for the first time in a long time, am I quoting frozen for the first time in forever?

00:34:00.200 Sorry.

00:34:00.780 For the first time in a long time, we are absolutely leaderless.

00:34:06.920 Because Donald Trump is not saying, here's what we do.

00:34:14.880 The left and the media, they've got their leadership.

00:34:22.900 Who's helping us?

00:34:24.160 I just said to Pat, I am not smart enough to be the person on the air at this time.

00:34:30.780 I'm not.

00:34:32.660 This thing was put together by the greatest minds that I think ever assembled and created something.

00:34:41.640 I mean, it's George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and John Adams and Benjamin Franklin.

00:34:49.320 These were giants in their time.

00:34:53.920 It's like, it's the greatest minds of today.

00:34:57.580 You know, Stephen Hawking, or at least his computer, and Elon Musk.

00:35:05.200 These guys don't even compare.

00:35:07.660 They don't even compare.

00:35:10.200 What, you're going to take it from a Yahoo on the radio?

00:35:12.820 You're going to take it from a couple of Yahoo's?

00:35:18.120 You're going to get it from your podcast?

00:35:19.640 There has to be a meeting of the minds.

00:35:23.920 There has to be a call to the, in fact, I'm going to make it.

00:35:28.600 There has to be a meeting of the leadership, of the freedom movement, of the Constitution,

00:35:37.280 where we can come together and we can actually discuss what's the future, what's the plan.

00:35:47.980 The left does this all the time.

00:35:50.820 George Soros funds it and has everybody go over to Davos to meet with him.

00:35:55.080 We don't have that, but we need a plan because we have a lot to fight coming up beginning in January 20th.

00:36:09.440 A lot to fight.

00:36:11.980 And I was glad to see, let me just, let me play one clip here.

00:36:15.720 This is, this is from a Costco.

00:36:19.640 A guy gets up in the middle of Costco and just starts speaking the truth in California.

00:36:26.360 Listen to this.

00:36:27.360 Don't let them do it.

00:36:29.480 You know why we're under this lockdown right now?

00:36:31.720 Because all the information is coming out about COVID and they know it's a farce.

00:36:37.500 You must not do this.

00:36:40.000 I just keep going, guys.

00:36:40.960 If you continue, this is a life that you will have.

00:36:44.240 I just keep going, guys.

00:36:45.460 Don't tell me I have the right.

00:36:49.140 You know what?

00:36:49.600 Governor Newsom doesn't have the right to shut us down, to make you wear a mask.

00:36:54.960 That's right.

00:36:55.920 All right, people, you know, that's right.

00:36:58.360 We've got to stand out for ourselves because this governor is going to keep us locked down until we do something about it.

00:37:06.880 And I want to know, are you going to let this happen?

00:37:09.560 It is as if they want, and I believe they do.

00:37:14.580 They want violence.

00:37:16.360 They have been begging for violence since the beginning of the Tea Party. 0.60

00:37:20.400 They have been in our face, humiliating us, laughing at us, poking at us, calling us names.

00:37:25.860 And we have taken it and taken it and taken it.

00:37:28.320 And now they're destroying our businesses.

00:37:30.860 They are crippling our children.

00:37:33.640 They're lying to us every step of the way.

00:37:38.680 Businesses need to open up.

00:37:40.560 If you're going to have a voice and you're telling me that, oh, I'm willing to stand up, open your business.

00:37:51.080 If you're in a state where they've said, close it down, open it.

00:37:54.900 If you're not willing to go to jail to save your business, you're certainly not ready to stand up against the federal government.

00:38:06.400 Open your business.

00:38:08.680 It's time.

00:38:12.700 Open your business.

The Glenn Beck Program - December 15, 2020

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