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00:00:00.000 Well, Nancy Pelosi has finally decided to call for a vote for impeachment that happened yesterday.

00:00:06.660 What's the exciting adventure on Capitol Hill today?

00:00:10.600 We'll talk to you about what is going to happen over the next few weeks and the procedures on today's podcast.

00:00:20.640 Also, is there a flashpoint coming?

00:00:22.620 And Blaze TV's John Miller is on the program to discuss the Virginia governor declaring a weapons ban ahead of a gun rights rally on Martin Luther King Day.

00:00:33.000 That's this coming Monday.

00:00:34.620 And then we took phone calls from Virginians who are really upset.

00:00:40.380 This is a state that is on the edge and it's not all about guns.

00:00:47.260 And the people we spoke to, the citizens of Virginia, are actually really upset as well with all of the Republicans.

00:00:56.500 Not those just in office, but those Republicans who didn't vote because this is a hostile takeover of a state.

00:01:05.760 And we'll explain it all on today's podcast.

00:01:08.800 If I was looking for an arson, I would look no further than Governor Blackface of Virginia. 0.97

00:01:31.120 I'm pouring the accelerant on an already tense situation in Virginia on Monday.

00:01:39.860 It's Martin Luther King Day and the cities around Virginia, the people who have attended all these city council meetings,

00:01:48.080 and the city councilmen that have been there have all decided that they wanted to go to Virginia on Monday

00:01:54.000 and protest what the House and the Senate, the local House and Senate for the governor, what they're doing with guns.

00:02:04.400 And this is a huge movement in Virginia.

00:02:08.540 And Antifa has stated that they were going to come.

00:02:13.380 Okay, so they start throwing in, we're going to be there, we're going to cause trouble.

00:02:18.100 So what does the governor do?

00:02:19.520 So he says it's a state of emergency.

00:02:24.180 The National Guard needs to come out.

00:02:26.960 There's no guns allowed on any of the government grounds on Monday. 0.58

00:02:32.860 And he blames this on white supremacists.

00:02:37.880 So he's disenfranchising all of the outlying areas, all of the towns that aren't run by the Democrats,

00:02:46.680 and calling everybody a white supremacist.

00:02:50.520 Are there going to be white supremacists that show up?

00:02:52.900 Maybe. I don't know.

00:02:54.320 I have no idea.

00:02:55.100 But that's not what this group is that has been showing up in city council meetings.

00:03:00.820 They're not white supremacists.

00:03:02.300 They're constitutionalists. 0.98

00:03:04.300 And by the way, most white supremacists are Nazis, and Nazis are socialists. 0.78

00:03:09.860 So you have two socialist groups. 0.96

00:03:12.440 You have Antifa and the National Socialists.

00:03:15.300 And then you have the constitutionalists, which no one wants to address.

00:03:21.380 I'm sorry.

00:03:21.840 I'm really kind of passionate about this.

00:03:24.160 I'm going to talk to you about that next hour.

00:03:26.140 So don't go anywhere.

00:03:27.160 Now, what happened yesterday with impeachment?

00:03:31.080 Let me spend a few minutes today to tell you what happened yesterday, what Nancy Pelosi,

00:03:36.520 the game that Nancy Pelosi was playing and how it fits into history, and what happens today at noon Eastern time.

00:03:44.320 Yesterday, Nancy Pelosi, after stalling how many weeks, Stu?

00:03:49.940 Three weeks?

00:03:50.420 Three weeks, yeah.

00:03:51.200 Three weeks.

00:03:52.040 After stalling three weeks, she finally decides that she's going to call for a vote for the delivery of the articles of impeachment.

00:04:00.900 Now, she came out yesterday, and she said, well, this is really, this, you know, I got a lot of heat.

00:04:07.480 I got a lot of heat for waiting.

00:04:09.580 But I'll tell you this right now.

00:04:12.540 The reason why I waited, because I knew new evidence was going to come out, and it was going to change things.

00:04:18.520 And it did.

00:04:20.380 Well, no, it really didn't.

00:04:21.720 Because when they finally voted, it came down the same way it did last time.

00:04:28.820 So nobody's mind was changed.

00:04:30.740 There was one Democrat that voted with the Republicans, a Democrat from Minnesota, and then there was the independent, what's his name, Justin Amash, that voted for the articles to be delivered.

00:04:46.800 Other than that, it's the same.

00:04:49.240 Nobody changed their mind.

00:04:50.560 Nobody changed their mind with this new evidence.

00:04:55.140 More importantly, it was going against Nancy Pelosi.

00:04:59.040 But there's a historic reason why she waited, and I'll explain it in just a second.

00:05:03.260 First, let me tell you who she appointed.

00:05:05.960 She did Adam Schiff, you know, head of the House Intelligence, and he was the one who really did all of the investigation.

00:05:13.240 Then you have Jerry Nadler, who drafted the articles.

00:05:17.800 And what this is, what she announced yesterday, they're called the House Managers.

00:05:22.100 But what they really are is this is the defense team.

00:05:25.340 Okay?

00:05:25.640 This is the Johnny Cochran and Alan Dershowitz in the House.

00:05:32.760 These are the ones that are going to make the case.

00:05:35.020 All right?

00:05:35.380 Because you're going now into a trial phase.

00:05:38.160 And so you need a bunch of attorneys, if you will, and prosecutors that know how to, are comfortable in a courtroom setting.

00:05:47.300 Okay?

00:05:47.540 So she also put Zoe Lofgren in from California, and this is her third impeachment.

00:05:59.640 Maybe she's the problem. 0.69

00:06:00.920 I mean, she just keeps showing up everywhere.

00:06:04.040 The person that shows up and two days later there's a terrorist attack.

00:06:07.180 What's going on here?

00:06:07.860 I'm not really sure, really, that they really even understand what's going on when they say this is her third impeachment.

00:06:17.380 Nixon was not impeached.

00:06:19.980 There was an impeachment process, though.

00:06:21.740 Yes.

00:06:22.100 But it never went to a vote.

00:06:24.240 So maybe her third...

00:06:25.220 Inquiry.

00:06:26.080 Inquiry.

00:06:26.700 Okay.

00:06:28.380 And that also tells me that she's been in Congress too long. 0.94

00:06:32.640 Yeah.

00:06:33.080 Then you have these two, Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler, were givens.

00:06:40.000 And I think Zoe Lofgren was also a given.

00:06:44.460 Then Nancy Pelosi could pick from anybody else in Congress. 0.98

00:06:48.780 So she takes Hakeem Jeffries, who's the head of the Democratic Caucus.

00:06:54.160 She then takes Val Demings. 0.96

00:06:57.760 Now, Val Demings is an interesting pick.

00:06:59.900 She was a former Orlando police chief.

00:07:04.700 And so you would say, oh, well, she's really...

00:07:07.220 She's probably going to be, you know, really good because she's a police chief and she knows the courtroom and she's comfortable with all this kind of stuff.

00:07:15.040 She was actually selected, I believe, because she's the one that the Democrats are pushing to be the vice presidential candidate.

00:07:21.980 And so I think they want to give her stage space.

00:07:28.120 However, stage space is interesting because there's a recent poll out of Democrats.

00:07:37.340 Can you tell me who Adam Schiff is?

00:07:40.800 No, was the most popular answer by an overwhelming number.

00:07:46.840 Remember, this is not printing with the American people.

00:07:51.060 They're not paying attention to it.

00:07:53.020 Democrats are not paying attention to this.

00:07:56.600 All right.

00:07:56.880 So you have Val Demings.

00:07:58.160 Then you also have Jason Crow.

00:08:01.900 He's a former military guy.

00:08:04.580 He's from Colorado.

00:08:05.420 Then you have Sylvia Garcia from Houston. 0.55

00:08:07.920 So if you look at this, you have Hakeem Jeffries, Val Demings, Jason Crow, and Sylvia Garcia.

00:08:18.220 What are they doing?

00:08:20.280 She picked this because the last impeachment was 13 white guys.

00:08:25.700 The House sent over 13 white guys.

00:08:28.940 So she's got all kinds of Americans from all kinds of...

00:08:32.800 It's diverse.

00:08:34.100 That's all they were going for was a diverse look.

00:08:36.920 And somebody they wanted to put on on stage.

00:08:41.020 All right.

00:08:42.280 So they took the vote on this.

00:08:44.360 Then they marched over around 5 o'clock last night and said, you know, rap, rap, rapping on your door, Senate,

00:08:51.680 to be able to tell you that we are going to tomorrow deliver the articles of impeachment.

00:09:00.160 So that's what happens today.

00:09:02.900 Last night, in what is called the engrossment ceremony, I love that, the engrossment ceremony, Nancy Pelosi finally signed the papers.

00:09:13.340 They went from the House to the old House chamber to the rotunda.

00:09:17.960 Then they slowly walked over to the Senate.

00:09:22.200 They gave the message to the House.

00:09:24.620 Today, the trial starts.

00:09:28.720 The trial is something unlike you've ever seen before.

00:09:36.720 If you missed the last one with Clinton, you'd have to go...

00:09:42.160 You'd have to be really old because the last one after that was in the 1860s and President Johnson.

00:09:49.740 Now, Johnson is an interesting guy.

00:09:54.860 And they say it was all political.

00:09:58.280 Well, isn't that what they said about Clinton?

00:10:01.500 And isn't that what we're saying about this one?

00:10:03.860 You have to remember, this is a political process.

00:10:08.380 Now, Johnson was one of our worst presidents ever.

00:10:10.760 He took over as the vice president because Lincoln was running on unity.

00:10:22.780 And he was actually a Democrat.

00:10:25.340 And he was a Southern Democrat.

00:10:27.260 I think he was from Tennessee.

00:10:29.060 And he was the only Southern senator when his state seceded that he didn't resign his office.

00:10:38.500 So he was the only senator to sit and remain from the South.

00:10:43.340 All right? 0.85

00:10:44.680 But he didn't necessarily like black people.

00:10:48.820 He was in that seat.

00:10:51.680 And he was called a Southern Unionist.

00:10:54.700 Now, when Lincoln put him in, the only time he ever really appeared,

00:10:59.320 he is a Democrat running on a unity party with Abraham Lincoln,

00:11:05.920 who's going to now try to knit the fabric back together after the Civil War.

00:11:10.900 And so he chooses him.

00:11:12.840 Hey, look, it's Republicans and Democrats and Northerners and Southerners coming together.

00:11:17.220 Well, he gives this horrible rambling speech before President Lincoln gives his second inaugural address.

00:11:24.180 And it's completely the opposite of what Lincoln was going to say.

00:11:29.160 That's his malice toward none and charity toward all.

00:11:32.220 Let's heal the wounds.

00:11:34.660 That's not what Johnson is saying.

00:11:36.660 And he gives a speech in the Senate.

00:11:39.560 And it is ugly.

00:11:43.140 The history books will tell you that he secluded himself for the next six weeks.

00:11:48.080 No, he didn't seclude himself.

00:11:49.360 Lincoln told him, go home.

00:11:53.120 I don't want to see you.

00:11:55.560 And so he was, it was, he was ridiculed for what he did.

00:12:00.720 And then six weeks later, Lincoln dies.

00:12:04.240 And now you have this president who really nobody wanted as president of the United States,

00:12:10.260 except perhaps Southerners.

00:12:13.540 When the Southerners come back together and, uh, and they start to knit the union back together,

00:12:22.960 this is where the real trouble starts.

00:12:26.300 Um, the Southern states, they, they are encouraged to have new elections and have them all open.

00:12:34.380 Many of the Southern states return the same old white leaders. 0.81

00:12:38.300 Uh, and when they did in their towns and in their, their, you know, counties and townships and, and state, 0.60

00:12:46.120 they passed black codes, which deprived black people of, uh, their, their civil liberties.

00:12:55.240 And so they were starting the same thing again. 0.72

00:12:58.200 Johnson did not want any protection for blacks.

00:13:02.240 The Republicans in Congress said, uh, no, that's no, no.

00:13:06.920 And so the Republicans passed bills to get it done.

00:13:11.660 So you would have protections.

00:13:14.520 Johnson, Johnson, the, the democratic president.

00:13:17.880 Now he's saying, no, he tries to stop all of it.

00:13:21.540 He's against the 14th amendment.

00:13:24.120 This goes on and on.

00:13:25.840 And he is trying to frustrate anything that Lincoln was trying to do and frustrate anything that would actually protect black people.

00:13:34.520 That's when it became political.

00:13:37.260 Yes.

00:13:37.600 I would say it was moral too, um, that the Republicans put him on trial and tried to impeach him because he was going against what the civil war was supposed to solve.

00:13:50.300 And that is equal rights.

00:13:54.260 They impeached him.

00:13:55.560 Now you would think that that would be pretty easy with through today's eyes.

00:14:01.740 He was not removed from office.

00:14:04.660 He only, he only, they were only short one vote.

00:14:09.660 You need 67 to re to remove a president.

00:14:13.820 They were short one vote.

00:14:16.600 So he stayed in office.

00:14:18.660 Clinton, same thing, stayed in office.

00:14:21.700 Now what's going to happen this time?

00:14:24.040 I'll tell you how it begins today at noon.

00:14:26.540 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:14:37.460 Hey, it's Glenn.

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00:14:48.580 We want to give you a quick update on something.

00:14:50.920 Uh, Jeff Fisher, Jeffy, who's been with me for 20 years.

00:14:55.980 Um, he's in the hospital.

00:14:57.860 Uh, it's not a heart attack this time.

00:15:00.340 Now it's a gallbladder.

00:15:02.500 Uh, and, um, he's going to have it removed today, but he, you saw him yesterday and he's good.

00:15:08.060 Yeah.

00:15:08.640 Okay.

00:15:09.020 Good.

00:15:09.220 Yeah.

00:15:09.340 He had some other issues, pancreas, liver enzymes, but I think it was all being caused by the gallbladder.

00:15:15.840 Yeah.

00:15:16.060 So it's amazing how those all work together.

00:15:18.700 It is, you know, anybody who doesn't, anybody who knows the human body and doesn't believe in at least intelligent design.

00:15:27.600 I don't know how you crazy.

00:15:29.940 I am. 1.00

00:15:30.260 What are you thinking?

00:15:31.660 How did this come up?

00:15:32.840 We can't do it.

00:15:33.920 And we're trying to, yeah, just, we just put all these things in a box and shook them up.

00:15:38.700 And well, I was a person.

00:15:40.020 I mean, it doesn't make any sense.

00:15:41.760 Anyway, uh, welcome to Pat Gray, uh, from Pat Gray Unleashed, the podcast that you can

00:15:46.860 hear and watch on blaze TV, uh, every morning as he records it live, uh, prior to, uh, this

00:15:54.020 program.

00:15:54.960 So Pat, we have the impeachment hearings.

00:15:57.860 Uh, the first thing that's supposed to happen, it was supposed to happen, I guess at noon

00:16:01.580 today, but now I'm hearing that they're, the Senate is going into session here in about

00:16:07.080 10 minutes.

00:16:07.760 They're going to vote on China on the trade bill.

00:16:12.220 Uh, and then, uh, the house comes over and they, the Sergeant of Arms says, you know,

00:16:20.760 warning anybody who talks for the next few weeks, you have to get rid of your cell phone,

00:16:27.060 computer, any electronics.

00:16:29.860 Um, you cannot speak on pain of imprisonment.

00:16:33.900 If you're a Senator, uh, like inside or outside the chamber, inside the chamber.

00:16:38.980 Okay.

00:16:39.320 You cannot speak.

00:16:40.280 The house is going to present their case.

00:16:43.320 They'll have 24 hours, not consecutive, 24 hours to present their case.

00:16:49.540 And no one can say any of your Senator, you cannot say anything.

00:16:53.540 So after they read the articles of impeachment, then, uh, the house summons, John Roberts, John

00:17:01.860 Roberts is supposed to come over, uh, and he's going to be called as the judge.

00:17:06.480 He's the Supreme court justice.

00:17:08.280 He's the head of the Supreme court and, uh, and a weasel.

00:17:12.060 And he's going to be called in and he will sit as the judge.

00:17:17.200 The Senate will be the jurors.

00:17:18.960 They cannot ask any questions.

00:17:22.700 They can only ask questions in writing and they pass those to chief justice Roberts, who

00:17:29.500 at the end of the presentation will then ask those questions of the house.

00:17:35.240 My impression of Roberts is role in this though, because he's in a different branch of government.

00:17:43.280 He's not in charge of it.

00:17:45.300 No, he's just like the master of ceremonies.

00:17:47.780 Yeah.

00:17:48.000 He's kind of the, he'll gavel it in.

00:17:50.040 Yeah.

00:17:50.640 And, but he doesn't have power in it.

00:17:53.320 He has power.

00:17:55.100 Like a judge has power to clear the courtroom to, uh, say you're out of order.

00:18:02.120 Take him.

00:18:03.120 I mean, he is in charge of that, but not the process.

00:18:06.600 He doesn't set rules or any of that.

00:18:08.240 No, that's McConnell.

00:18:09.160 Right.

00:18:09.440 And so what happens is once they present their side of the case, then the house is going

00:18:16.980 to say, do we want, or the house is going to say, we want to call new witnesses.

00:18:23.020 Then the Senate can, uh, discuss that it will be behind closed doors and then they will vote.

00:18:31.080 And here's the, this is where it gets dicey.

00:18:34.740 If they vote to open up and have the house call new witnesses, the Senate has said, great.

00:18:43.580 If you don't want it based on the evidence that you've already given us and you want

00:18:49.300 to present new stuff and new witnesses, then we're going to call witnesses too.

00:18:53.800 And so it's a game of bluff because quite honestly, I don't think either side wants this to be opened

00:19:00.560 up all the way, which is tragedy in, as far as I'm concerned.

00:19:04.640 So if they vote to hear witnesses, you will then hear from the whistleblower as well, because

00:19:10.480 the Democrats only need, what is it?

00:19:14.320 Four.

00:19:15.880 I'm trying to, let me, let's see where it is.

00:19:18.540 I wrote it down.

00:19:19.420 I think, uh, four Republicans to vote their way.

00:19:24.660 Yes.

00:19:25.000 So 50, 50. 0.81

00:19:26.060 I mean, it's 51, 49, so they need four Republicans to vote their way.

00:19:30.880 And they think they have that in Romney, Collins, and a couple others.

00:19:35.820 And they will have it.

00:19:37.040 The Republicans will also have it, uh, to be able to get the whistleblower and everybody

00:19:41.880 else.

00:19:42.220 And then it really opens up.

00:19:43.400 If it doesn't open up to witnesses, it'll be about two to three weeks.

00:19:48.240 The president, after he is sworn in today, Roberts, he will then swear the Senate in and present

00:19:55.760 them with the rules of the Senate, that they have to shut their mouths for the next couple 1.00

00:19:59.740 of weeks until the trial is over.

00:20:01.740 Then the next thing, the Senate has to dispatch someone to officially alert the president that

00:20:09.200 he is under trial in the Senate.

00:20:12.720 And then he will present his defense.

00:20:14.980 Remember, we have not had the White House defense attorneys yet.

00:20:18.780 They will get their 24 hours to present their case after the House does.

00:20:25.400 Do you, because you mentioned this a little bit earlier, do you think that the delay reason

00:20:30.720 now is because of what?

00:20:35.200 My, okay, go ahead.

00:20:36.980 Uh, here's, here's my view on this and, and I get it just from looking at history.

00:20:43.120 Um, they have, for instance, um, Nixon's impeachment hearings were over like July 27th.

00:20:55.700 Um, and they, they didn't file for the articles of impeachment.

00:21:00.580 What they did was they, they politicked internally and it, and pressure started to build with the

00:21:08.740 American people.

00:21:09.640 Uh, and so on August 5th, the Republicans went to the president said, I think you're going

00:21:18.560 to be impeached.

00:21:20.180 Uh, and he released the final tape, the smoking gun tape where it showed he did know about

00:21:27.220 all of this stuff and he was involved in Watergate, uh, and the coverup.

00:21:31.800 And so once that tape came out, that came out on August 5th and then on August 9th, the pressure

00:21:39.000 was too much and he resigned.

00:21:40.800 So I think what she was trying to do was trying to whip up pressure, get the press to whip up 0.73

00:21:47.500 the people and get that to introduce some new things.

00:21:50.760 Look, there's some new things that are going on.

00:21:52.940 So hoping against, against all hope that this president would blink and say, I don't, I don't

00:22:00.160 want it to go to trial and he would resign.

00:22:03.840 She was looking for more things to come up because she knows how weak it is, uh, and trying

00:22:10.620 to get people whipped up.

00:22:11.840 So we have to hear from these new, these new, uh, uh, witnesses.

00:22:16.860 Yeah.

00:22:17.120 I mean, I definitely, it definitely, you know, reading some of the stuff that's come out the

00:22:20.980 last couple of days and probably the biggest part of this is last night's clearly coordinated

00:22:27.860 interview with Lev Parnas on Rachel Maddow show.

00:22:31.140 Um, you know, it does seem like she was maybe trying to align all of these things to hit all

00:22:37.300 at once so that when this thing starts, there's pressure for the witnesses.

00:22:41.920 There's pressure.

00:22:42.960 Exactly right.

00:22:43.320 So she initially maybe wanted to, um, see if she could get the things she wanted when she

00:22:50.140 couldn't get them.

00:22:51.320 This seems to be their almost, almost backup plan, right?

00:22:54.000 Like this is how they're going to push the Republicans into doing what they want, which

00:22:57.460 is all this new evidence and these new interviews and these people coming out saying all these

00:23:00.780 bad things about Trump.

00:23:02.220 Right.

00:23:02.660 Okay.

00:23:03.300 I mean, at least it makes some sense.

00:23:06.200 Uh, I mean, I can understand why they thought that might work.

00:23:09.040 I don't think it's going to.

00:23:10.960 I will tell you that it's that unless you have a picture of him with a gun, you know,

00:23:18.260 shooting witnesses that would have testified.

00:23:20.900 Right.

00:23:21.400 And even then, I'm not sure.

00:23:23.540 Um, but the, what, what Senator is going to say who is, who respects the constitution?

00:23:33.740 Remember, no president has ever been removed.

00:23:37.220 We've had, this is the third impeached.

00:23:41.040 We've had one that was close to impeachment.

00:23:43.380 So this is the fourth time really we've gone through any of this.

00:23:47.060 None of them have ever been removed.

00:23:49.600 None.

00:23:49.820 None.

00:23:50.460 Okay.

00:23:50.660 The worst one was Johnson and he wasn't removed.

00:23:55.900 You're telling me that you're going to remove a sitting president just a few months before

00:24:01.120 the people have their own vote and way to remove a sitting president.

00:24:07.520 No way.

00:24:08.020 No way.

00:24:08.660 Unless, unless it was something smoking guns, you had like literally the picture of him

00:24:13.580 with the gun and there was smoke coming out of it.

00:24:15.600 And even then, yeah, there'd be plenty of people who would still say no.

00:24:19.420 I don't remember this level of, uh, scrutiny during the impeachment of, of Clinton.

00:24:27.640 Do you?

00:24:28.200 I mean, scrutiny, this detail, this, we're every describing every minute of, of the process

00:24:36.940 and how this all works.

00:24:38.560 Oh yeah.

00:24:38.960 You do remember that?

00:24:39.880 Oh yeah.

00:24:41.200 We were doing it like, we, uh, Stu and I were on the air together during it and absolutely

00:24:46.380 we paid great attention to every detail.

00:24:49.740 Did you really?

00:24:50.180 Oh yeah.

00:24:51.060 All the way to, I remember talking about, I will admit I did not.

00:24:54.080 I remember Red, Renquist being seated and we did a whole, uh, at least one break just

00:25:01.360 on the gold braids on his robes.

00:25:04.520 What the hell are the gold braids for?

00:25:06.420 How come he has gold braids and nobody else has gold braids and how, and nobody else ever

00:25:10.920 has.

00:25:11.720 I was married.

00:25:12.340 I do not remember the gold braids discussion.

00:25:14.440 And it, and it, it turns out he didn't, he just wanted them.

00:25:18.820 Oh.

00:25:19.360 And it's like, I want something different for my robe.

00:25:21.320 I'm the chief justice.

00:25:22.300 I want something different.

00:25:23.280 So he put gold braids on him.

00:25:24.760 Then nothing.

00:25:25.480 It was just him.

00:25:26.560 Shorter explanation than I expected.

00:25:28.140 Yeah.

00:25:28.500 He just wanted them.

00:25:29.200 Yeah.

00:25:29.480 Um, you know, cause we did three variations of the Glenn Beck talk show before it became

00:25:34.060 the show that it is today.

00:25:35.640 Yeah.

00:25:35.820 Cause you were still doing music radio.

00:25:37.920 And so, and you said you weren't following it that close.

00:25:40.080 Right.

00:25:40.200 I was doing music radio.

00:25:41.260 Right.

00:25:41.500 I mean, there'd be no reason for show for the show really to follow it all.

00:25:44.440 Plus I was 34 years old.

00:25:46.420 I really didn't care at the time.

00:25:47.700 Yeah.

00:25:48.000 Yeah.

00:25:50.000 Um, but, uh, one of the iterations of that show was called the impeachment of character

00:25:53.940 and it was basically nonstop impeachment talk, including like going through all of the

00:26:01.600 testimony and Glenn acting it out.

00:26:04.740 Oh, that's right.

00:26:06.540 It was actually really funny.

00:26:08.200 That I remember.

00:26:08.680 We had tapes of that cause that would be worth playing again for people.

00:26:12.160 Yeah.

00:26:12.340 Cause it was, I played all the, I just took it.

00:26:14.440 But the raw testimony, uh, and I acted all of the parts out.

00:26:19.200 You're playing like Linda Tripp and Monica Lewinsky and Kenneth Starr.

00:26:23.080 That part I do remember.

00:26:24.040 That was tremendous.

00:26:25.240 It was really funny.

00:26:26.140 But you know, there was never a time in which anyone really believed he was going to get

00:26:33.020 removed from office.

00:26:34.080 No, that's true.

00:26:34.720 Just like now.

00:26:35.420 I remember being, it was a little, it felt a little bit more uneasy.

00:26:38.480 And I remember one of the big keys of this was Joe Lieberman.

00:26:42.220 And I remember Glenn, who was friendly with Joe Lieberman and he's a Senator from Connecticut

00:26:45.960 and, uh, and still am.

00:26:48.040 He's been on the show a bunch of times.

00:26:49.580 And you were very much hoping he would be the one guy who would stand up on the democratic

00:26:55.260 side and say, look, this matters.

00:26:57.860 Character matters.

00:26:58.980 And that would maybe start, uh, momentum for this to really happen to him be removed.

00:27:05.260 Right.

00:27:05.480 You know, Lieberman wound up making a, a pretty, uh, uh, speech that was critical, but wound

00:27:10.120 up still voting to keep him in office.

00:27:12.860 Yes.

00:27:13.220 Yeah.

00:27:13.500 If I remember correctly.

00:27:14.200 Because he said character does matter, but it doesn't rise to the level of impeachment.

00:27:18.800 Uh, and, and this one character does matter, but this one's not about character.

00:27:22.680 This is not about him lying, uh, to the American people under oath.

00:27:27.420 It's also not about 11 felonies that he committed like it was with Clinton.

00:27:31.700 Yeah.

00:27:31.820 Uh, it's about, it's about two things that don't, don't rise to the level of impeachment

00:27:36.700 at all.

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00:28:14.820 John Miller is our white house correspondent at a blaze TV host of the white house brief.

00:28:20.480 He has previously worked for Fox news, the blaze and mercury radio arts, which is my company.

00:28:28.200 He was actually my assistant, uh, for a while and then a producer on my show.

00:28:34.340 Uh, and we welcome to the program, John Miller.

00:28:37.080 Hello, John.

00:28:38.040 Hey, Glenn.

00:28:38.760 How you doing?

00:28:39.400 I'm very good.

00:28:40.820 Can you tell people who have not really been paying attention to Virginia exactly what is

00:28:46.060 going on?

00:28:46.700 Well, what's happening is very simple and that is that governor blackface Northam is 0.99

00:28:52.300 literally just trying to deprive and along with the Virginia legislature, trying to deprive

00:28:56.860 the people of their second amendment rights.

00:28:59.720 And, you know, just to rewind a bit and go back, you know, obviously because it's at the

00:29:03.740 state level, there's no electoral college.

00:29:05.640 So basically what happened is you got Northern Virginia, uh, Northern Virginia, if you don't

00:29:10.700 know, Virginia is basically Washington DC, right?

00:29:13.840 You got Northern Virginia, which is all blue because they don't have the electoral college.

00:29:19.620 Northern Virginia determined the state representatives.

00:29:21.880 So you basically have all Democrats.

00:29:24.620 So Virginia's representation went completely blue.

00:29:27.340 However, the Virginia populace is the remained sane, remained constitutionalists who just want

00:29:33.760 to have their rights.

00:29:34.780 And so now you've got the situation where the legislators are trying to turn the state blue

00:29:39.160 and the citizens of Virginia are literally rising up against it because they are trying

00:29:44.360 to implement a number of anti-gun legislation, such as red flag laws and limits on, on so-called

00:29:51.320 assault rifles, et cetera, et cetera, basically trying to disarm the citizens of Virginia.

00:29:55.940 And so 90 out of 95, and that number is growing, you know, just recently I checked this morning

00:30:01.200 and the, uh, Virginia citizens defense league has, has, has, is keeping track, but a bunch

00:30:05.900 of localities are jumping on by the day, if not by the hour, rising up against us and declaring

00:30:12.060 themselves sanctuaries against these anti-gun anti-self-defense legislation.

00:30:17.640 And so on lobby day, which is on Martin Luther King day on Monday, they have decided to, they,

00:30:23.180 they, they had plans to show up at the Capitol in Richmond and make their voices heard.

00:30:28.080 That was the whole point, make their voices heard.

00:30:30.680 Governor Blackface said, uh, no, I don't think they'll wait until yesterday to, to declare

00:30:35.600 a national emergency.

00:30:36.980 And due to that national emergency, everyone who decided who, who was going to show up to

00:30:41.760 the Capitol now is not able to show up with arms.

00:30:45.260 They're going to have metal detectors and you will not, you will not be allowed on the

00:30:49.380 ground if you are carrying a firearm in self-defense, which is funny because this happened

00:30:55.440 right after Antifa decided to make their presence be known.

00:30:59.080 Antifa said, oh, well, we're going to show up at the rally.

00:31:01.260 Everyone said, uh, I, uh, you know, I, I'm not sure if Antifa is really going to want to

00:31:05.240 show up with tens of thousands, which are the numbers that they're expecting citizens that

00:31:09.300 are carrying.

00:31:10.300 And so coincidentally, the governor then comes in and says, well, actually, we're not going

00:31:14.260 to allow the citizens to carry at this demonstration.

00:31:16.760 So, uh, you've been saying this, Glenn, I, I, I really do.

00:31:20.000 I hope not like you, but I do think this is a flashpoint.

00:31:22.820 I do think this is a really big deal because they're, they're, they're saying you cannot

00:31:28.220 exercise your rights.

00:31:29.320 And we know that.

00:31:30.360 And instead of trying to deescalate the situation, we are putting pressure.

00:31:33.660 We're trying to escalate it.

00:31:34.640 We're trying to make it worse.

00:31:35.540 And we're trying to enrage the citizenry even more.

00:31:38.860 So here's, what's really interesting is, um, you could say, hey, because of Antifa, we're

00:31:45.300 afraid of skirmishes, police will be out in numbers to make sure that these groups are,

00:31:51.400 you know, separate or whatever.

00:31:53.160 I mean, we've done it before.

00:31:54.220 John, you were there when the Black Panthers threatened to walk through the crowd of 500,000

00:31:59.900 people.

00:32:00.700 Remember that?

00:32:01.700 Correct.

00:32:01.980 Um, and it was all taken care of.

00:32:05.000 There's easy ways to take care of it to where you say, look, you have your right.

00:32:09.240 We have our right.

00:32:10.160 You can do this, you know, and it's all fine.

00:32:13.260 Um, instead, what this governor has done is with, if I'm correct me, if I'm wrong, without

00:32:20.580 talking about Antifa, he has instead started talking about white supremacist groups and,

00:32:27.640 and, and foreshadowing the, the Nazi presence instead of saying, look, there's socialists

00:32:37.440 over here with Antifa who are dedicated to, you know, um, you know, trouble.

00:32:44.040 And then there is also the Nazis who have a long history, also socialists who have a

00:32:49.780 history of trying to make trouble.

00:32:51.560 We're going to protect the law abiding citizens who are here to voice a different opinion than

00:32:58.660 mine on the right to bear arms.

00:33:01.600 And they have every right to do that.

00:33:03.980 Um, and if he would have said, then we would ask that you don't bring any guns.

00:33:09.040 I think it still would have bothered a lot of people would bother me, but at least it

00:33:13.360 would be understandable and fair.

00:33:15.120 What he's doing is he is making all the law abiding citizens of Virginia into white supremacists.

00:33:22.800 I think that's, I mean, sadly, that's exactly right.

00:33:26.680 And I think he knows exactly what he's doing.

00:33:28.980 Absolutely.

00:33:29.500 You're absolutely right.

00:33:30.440 And he, and he's just rubbing the salt in the wound.

00:33:32.460 I mean, last night, um, you know, me and a number of people, uh, you know, we're just

00:33:37.820 enraged by this because it's literally, you know, he's just putting a thumb in your eye

00:33:41.940 and saying, I don't care about your rights and I don't really even care about actually

00:33:45.720 preventing violence.

00:33:46.800 I am so hell bent on my position and my views on this that I'm going to rub it in your face

00:33:51.480 and I'm going to use my power to do it.

00:33:53.680 And there's really nothing you can do about it.

00:33:55.680 And the question is whether that's actually the case, because what he's doing literally,

00:34:00.620 of course, it violates the constitution.

00:34:03.100 That's as clear as day, but it also violates Virginia code.

00:34:06.060 Virginia has code 4414615 that prohibits, um, of the governor in line with the constitution

00:34:12.980 of Virginia and of the second amendment of the United States constitution from, uh, from

00:34:18.360 prohibiting the rights of, of people to keep and bear arms as is guaranteed by the, the

00:34:24.240 respective constitutions.

00:34:25.680 And I think that he has just made people even more mad.

00:34:29.900 And then what he did is he compared it to Charlottesville.

00:34:32.100 Oh, well, we're getting warnings about, uh, behavior similar to what we saw in Charlottesville.

00:34:37.240 Last time I checked in Charlottesville, nobody was getting shot.

00:34:40.700 Nobody got shot.

00:34:42.000 Somebody got hit and it was tragic, got killed with a car.

00:34:44.720 Uh, so are you banning cars to, to just, you know, say, well, it looks like Charlottesville

00:34:49.720 and therefore we are going to prevent the people from carrying, uh, does not seem like

00:34:53.940 it's really going to solve the problem.

00:34:55.320 And instead it's just trying to make a political point that is escalating the situation to a

00:34:59.620 point where I really think this could be the beginning of something, of something major.

00:35:04.640 I mean, this is the litmus test for the country in terms of, are we going to stand for our

00:35:08.780 rights or are we not?

00:35:10.140 And he is saying, here's my position.

00:35:12.380 Are you going to challenge me on it?

00:35:13.880 And if you are going to challenge me on it, how far are you willing to go?

00:35:18.140 So do you know, um, first of all, what is the percentage of Virginia that is siding the

00:35:26.140 towns?

00:35:26.820 Uh, I mean, how much of Virginia is supporting the, the, the right to bear arms?

00:35:34.440 Yeah.

00:35:35.840 So you've got 90, there's 95 counties in Virginia, right?

00:35:39.600 And 90 of them are standing with the second amendment, 90 out of 95.

00:35:46.680 Now is where they stand has the leadership.

00:35:49.240 I mean, the one thing that Martin Luther King did was the leadership was very clear and

00:35:54.960 very vocal.

00:35:56.500 You're with us and there is no violence and anything else.

00:36:00.360 And I'm not suggesting that they would come out and be violent, but when pushed and provoked

00:36:05.780 and made angry by the state and Antifa and being called a Nazi and having a Nazi come in,

00:36:13.960 I mean, that is very, it is a volatile situation where 90% or 90 of 95 counties will feel like,

00:36:25.180 wait a minute, I'm the one that's pushing for law and order.

00:36:28.420 I'm the one pushing for the constitution.

00:36:32.060 I believe our, our house, Senate and, and, uh, governor are being anti constitution.

00:36:40.380 Antifa doesn't believe in the constitution.

00:36:42.900 Neither do the Nazis.

00:36:44.260 I'm the only one historically standing where Americans are standing and I'm being lumped in

00:36:50.360 as a rebel.

00:36:51.380 And that's why this is so dangerous because you right now, you've gotten to a point where

00:36:57.680 you've pushed the law abiding citizens.

00:36:59.960 You've pushed the people who are for law and order to a point where they're angry, to a

00:37:04.980 point where they're mad, to a point where they're, they're ready to rise up.

00:37:08.900 Right.

00:37:09.140 So really dangerous situation.

00:37:10.900 So who's leading the, who's the leading voice that is going to take the Martin Luther King

00:37:16.520 role and say this, we all lose.

00:37:20.440 If there's gunfight, we all lose.

00:37:23.480 And we have to be, even if you get beaten in the, I mean, this is what he said.

00:37:29.220 They beat you in the head.

00:37:30.920 They hit you with a fire hose. 0.99

00:37:32.260 They sick a dog on you. 1.00

00:37:34.060 Take it, take it. 0.99

00:37:35.720 Otherwise you won't be the sympathetic party.

00:37:41.040 Yeah.

00:37:41.640 And, and that's, and that's where I think this is strategic because notice that, that

00:37:46.240 Northam announced this yesterday.

00:37:48.160 All right.

00:37:48.600 This happens on Monday, you know, the lobby day is Monday.

00:37:51.120 He announced this yesterday.

00:37:52.280 So there's really no time, uh, you know, the Virginia citizens, the defense league, they

00:37:56.820 are the, the organizers of this event.

00:37:59.240 Um, and they're looking into it.

00:38:00.960 They have their lawyers looking into it to look to, you know, how do we, how, how do we

00:38:04.400 settle this in court so that we don't have, um, a violent situation so that we don't have

00:38:09.080 clashes, uh, and Northam intentionally announced this yesterday because they waited until now

00:38:14.700 to do it.

00:38:15.280 So, um, so to answer your question, Glenn, I did that there is no, there, there, there's

00:38:21.800 no time.

00:38:22.380 There's no one voicing that because there hasn't been the organizational time to actually affect

00:38:26.840 that because they're announcing all of this so late.

00:38:28.780 And so I really think that this is an intentional effort to, to, to just, you know, escalate

00:38:34.080 it, put their thumb in the eye of the people and see, you know, how, how messy can we make

00:38:39.660 this?

00:38:39.880 And that's why I, I honestly think that Northam is not doing this in good faith.

00:38:44.920 Um, he's not trying to prevent violence.

00:38:46.740 He's trying to show the American people in his eyes, how evil these angry, evil right

00:38:52.360 wingers are when meanwhile, it's, it is people who are just trying to exercise their rights,

00:38:56.120 but there's no time Glenn.

00:38:57.900 And that's why there's no time to actually, you know, have the kind of foresight and organizational

00:39:03.600 thought of like, how do we get this to be, uh, you know, a peaceful event and it needs

00:39:08.580 to be.

00:39:09.520 Yeah.

00:39:09.600 And I don't think that there was no forethought on that because they didn't think that people

00:39:14.880 would, I mean, they know the people of Virginia, the American citizens who are constitutionalist

00:39:20.620 in Virginia are just like they are in any other place.

00:39:23.420 They are not for violence.

00:39:25.180 They're not carrying their guns to shoot.

00:39:28.100 They're carrying their guns because they can.

00:39:31.720 Um, and I don't think the, the, um, the leadership necessarily thought because it's been peaceful.

00:39:38.280 That's who we are as people.

00:39:40.340 But when you corner us and then, I mean, it's, it's a Reichstag moment. 0.89

00:39:45.740 If you have Nazis, you have Antifa and you have somebody who is righteously pushed up against

00:39:52.400 the wall, it doesn't matter.

00:39:55.320 It, what matters is what the government says and what the press says on what happens.

00:40:02.420 Reichstag, who burned it down?

00:40:04.700 Didn't matter.

00:40:06.020 The powers that be said, well, we have to go get them communists.

00:40:10.740 Now we got to round them all up because they blamed it on who they wanted to blame it on.

00:40:16.620 Just like Northam is already blaming this situation, not on Antifa, not on socialists, the national

00:40:23.320 socialists. 0.81

00:40:24.060 He's just blanketing, uh, everybody who's going to show up to this thing is a white supremacist. 1.00

00:40:29.900 It's ugly. 1.00

00:40:30.880 It's ugly.

00:40:31.640 All right, John, thank you so much.

00:40:33.440 I know you're going to be there.

00:40:34.800 Uh, and I appreciate your coverage.

00:40:36.800 We'll, we'll watch this.

00:40:38.380 I know you've been covering this, uh, from the beginning.

00:40:40.660 So we'll, uh, make sure we keep track, uh, with you on the white house brief on blaze TV.

00:40:47.000 And John, real quick, if you just wanted to step in and say, which one was better?

00:40:49.880 Glenn's interview of you, or honestly, my appearance on your program yesterday.

00:40:54.760 Still was on my program yesterday.

00:40:56.780 Great job.

00:40:57.920 Uh, and I think, you know, the show is going to be real fun, but if you, if you haven't

00:41:00.880 seen it, def, uh, I'm not going to, I'm not going to put myself in that position.

00:41:04.080 Nice try to do.

00:41:04.980 See what I mean?

00:41:06.560 Check out the interview yesterday though.

00:41:09.300 Thanks a lot, John.

00:41:10.300 Thanks, John.

00:41:10.920 John Miller is one of the smartest guys I know.

00:41:16.840 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

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00:41:37.760 So in Virginia, the, the state house and legislature has been taken over by Democrats.

00:41:47.020 You also have a Democrat who is the governor who was really saved by his party, even though

00:41:54.520 he was in blackface.

00:41:56.000 And I mean, he said some crazy, crazy things about abortion.

00:42:01.280 They saved him.

00:42:02.620 Well, now he owes them.

00:42:04.400 Uh, and his opinions, I'm sure on the second amendment are personally, uh, you know, the

00:42:10.980 exact opposite of many Americans who believe in the constitution.

00:42:14.980 Well, they are using all of their power there in, uh, in Virginia.

00:42:19.720 Uh, now that they have taken over because of the population of Northern Virginia, which

00:42:24.960 is basically the suburb of Washington DC.

00:42:28.840 I mean, the only thing that separates Virginia from Washington DC is the Lincoln Memorial and

00:42:34.500 the river.

00:42:35.200 When you see that shot of the Lincoln Memorial with Lincoln sitting in it from, so it's, you

00:42:41.320 know, from the front of the Lincoln Memorial, what's behind it is Virginia.

00:42:46.680 Uh, you know, that bridge that crosses over that, you know, JFK, uh, came over, they brought

00:42:54.460 his body to Arlington.

00:42:56.040 That bridge brings you right to Arlington, Virginia.

00:42:59.900 So this huge population, uh, in Virginia is right there in Washington DC.

00:43:06.740 And that's now starting to control the rest of Virginia, which is nothing like Washington

00:43:12.960 DC.

00:43:14.300 And the people are being disenfranchised.

00:43:16.980 Uh, they have met in their townships.

00:43:19.840 They've met, uh, all across the state and they have decided that they are going to be a

00:43:26.140 sanctuary city if the, if the Democrats who now control the state start to put in these

00:43:33.140 crazy laws and well, the state doesn't like that.

00:43:38.340 So they were going to have a big rally in a place called Capitol square right there in

00:43:42.060 Richmond, Virginia.

00:43:43.400 Uh, and, uh, it was a peaceful gathering just to let their voices be heard on Martin Luther

00:43:50.460 King day.

00:43:51.080 That's Monday.

00:43:52.000 So what happens last night, the governor, remember the guy in blackface, uh, the governor, I don't

00:44:00.060 was he in blackface last night when he made this?

00:44:03.140 I think it's, I think it's only on, uh, Tuesdays and Fridays.

00:44:06.700 Okay.

00:44:07.240 So, uh, he came out without the blackface and said, this is, um, uh, this is not going to 0.99

00:44:15.940 be tolerated. 0.73

00:44:16.700 You know, we have, we have violence coming our way, white supremacists, uh, and so there 0.79

00:44:23.600 are no guns that are allowed on Capitol square.

00:44:27.180 And he, he pulled that off by declaring a state of emergency.

00:44:31.700 So there may be credible threats.

00:44:34.560 I don't know.

00:44:35.120 There may be credible threats, but not from the majority of people of Virginia that are

00:44:40.860 coming to this rally, there are people that feel disenfranchised by their government, that

00:44:47.380 they're not being listened to.

00:44:49.880 So how do people in Virginia explain this?

00:44:54.780 How do they feel what's going to happen on Monday?

00:44:57.960 I want to open up the phones to you because America needs to hear from Virginia and they

00:45:03.940 need to hear from the Virginians who are going through this because most of America doesn't

00:45:08.580 know anything about this story and it could be a wildfire by Monday night.

00:45:14.480 I hope it is not.

00:45:15.940 I don't think it will be, but it could be Kirby in Virginia.

00:45:19.980 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:45:21.560 Hey, I'm a Richmond second amendment Patriot, and I'm going to be there as a Patriot and

00:45:26.860 a citizen.

00:45:27.420 I wanted to address the Antifa, the carrying of guns and a credible threat.

00:45:32.300 Go ahead.

00:45:32.740 Uh, I'll say it real quick.

00:45:34.060 Uh, yeah.

00:45:34.860 Richmond seven Hills Antifa.

00:45:36.840 Uh, I read their, uh, post and they're, they're basically saying they were against

00:45:40.120 the initial, uh, the initial gun bans as well as what Ralph is doing because they say

00:45:45.780 they need the guns to protect themselves in the future from Nazis. 0.56

00:45:49.600 Now, whether you believe them or not, that's another story, but you can look them up.

00:45:52.660 There's seven hills.

00:45:53.140 So they're not actually, they're not actually causing trouble for you.

00:45:56.880 They're no, they are going to be joining or are they going to be having their separate

00:46:03.080 They don't say anything about what they're going to do that day.

00:46:06.220 They're just saying they're against the gun ban.

00:46:08.420 Okay.

00:46:08.820 Because they believe it protects the politicians and their people, you know, I guess minorities.

00:46:13.040 Yeah.

00:46:13.420 Uh, anybody they represent that they think the Nazis could harm need guns to stop Nazis when

00:46:18.360 Nazis, I guess, take over.

00:46:19.940 Or I don't know, or, or you can read it.

00:46:22.460 You can read it on their page.

00:46:23.920 Uh, it's a statement they made right after they were banned by Facebook for a month.

00:46:28.080 So I don't know.

00:46:29.120 Kirby.

00:46:29.920 Thank you.

00:46:30.600 Go ahead.

00:46:31.220 You finish.

00:46:31.680 Go ahead.

00:46:32.140 No.

00:46:32.660 Yeah.

00:46:33.000 I want to say one minute, uh, the VL, uh, the VC, uh, the Virginia citizens defense league

00:46:38.040 had said from the beginning, no long guns.

00:46:40.220 And most of the people, and I, and I'm real in touch with a lot of the people that are

00:46:45.000 pro second amendment, uh, they're going to, they're going to go and be behind the lines.

00:46:48.920 They're not going to cross over, but they are going to bring their guns because we've 0.68

00:46:52.140 always brought our guns.

00:46:53.320 Yeah.

00:46:53.820 And the other thing is, um, uh, yeah, I'm against the, of course, the, the gun bans and

00:46:59.660 the Capitol grounds prohibition and all that.

00:47:02.040 I think it's just, uh, uh, terrible, but there are some credible threats.

00:47:06.300 I've actually seen them on Facebook where guys were saying they were going to go armed.

00:47:09.900 And, and, you know, take the governor out.

00:47:12.620 So, I mean, I've actually seen this stuff.

00:47:14.940 Okay.

00:47:15.160 So that's, so that's, and is that part of the, the citizen defense, uh, no, no, no, no, no,

00:47:24.580 no, no, no, no.

00:47:24.840 They're just random people who are rabble rousers that are saying, yeah, let's go armed and get

00:47:30.600 them.

00:47:30.920 Yeah.

00:47:31.180 I, I, I, I actually told these guys, you don't know, no, that's wrong.

00:47:35.000 We want to be peaceful.

00:47:35.880 We want to be armed, but peaceful.

00:47:37.360 We want to show America that we are not the crazies that the liberals are making us out

00:47:42.500 to be.

00:47:42.900 If you go in there armed and try to take out the governor, then that's going to destroy

00:47:48.220 the second amendment forever.

00:47:49.840 So I know that's not what you're, I know, I know exactly what you're saying, Kirby, and

00:47:54.240 I appreciate it.

00:47:55.200 Um, uh, and you're exactly right, uh, and, uh, stay way away from anybody who is, and

00:48:03.220 you're doing the right thing.

00:48:04.120 Stay way away from anybody who is like that.

00:48:06.600 They are not the constitution's friend.

00:48:09.500 And anyone who says something like that should be immediately reported to authorities, uh,

00:48:13.260 be clear.

00:48:13.820 Uh, that's obviously, I mean, you know, what, you know, the whole point of this is the second

00:48:19.480 amendment is not used for those types of reasons and is not used to make threats against people.

00:48:25.820 It's, it's used to protect us, right?

00:48:27.940 I mean, it is, it is our God given right to be able to protect ourselves.

00:48:32.140 Um, and so certainly an effective, uh, rally and messaging of that point does not include,

00:48:37.240 uh, you know, the crazy people, which of course there are a few. 0.80

00:48:39.900 There always are, people are saying all sorts of crap online.

00:48:42.500 Um, but yeah, I mean, you see anything like that, that's obviously something you should

00:48:45.040 report.

00:48:45.500 Yeah. 0.99

00:48:45.740 Because also the people who say that online, um, they're either dumb as a box of rocks because 0.93

00:48:51.080 that's should be reported and will be reported. 0.97

00:48:53.560 And so now they're watched.

00:48:55.480 Thank God.

00:48:56.500 Um, however, uh, you know, they, they, uh, they also may claim to be something they're not.

00:49:03.700 I don't know if you know this, but internet, the people on the internet, not necessarily always

00:49:08.880 honest about who they are.

00:49:10.220 What?

00:49:10.660 Yeah.

00:49:11.340 Yeah.

00:49:11.740 Are you sure?

00:49:12.560 Sal in Virginia.

00:49:13.500 Welcome.

00:49:16.400 Hey Glenn.

00:49:17.100 Yes.

00:49:17.360 Thanks for taking my call.

00:49:18.560 Uh, lifelong Henrico County resident, uh, guns are part of this, but I think you guys

00:49:24.200 are missing the bigger story.

00:49:25.460 Okay.

00:49:25.740 What's going on here is this is the results of people not voting in elections besides this

00:49:33.220 total gun grab.

00:49:34.840 They've also passed out of committee.

00:49:37.640 Uh, you know, you used to be able to recall the governor with 10% of the vote and via petition

00:49:42.320 and they passed increasing that number from 10 to 25%.

00:49:45.960 They're, uh, changing the term limits from a governor from one term to two terms.

00:49:50.960 They're also changing the way the governor's elected.

00:49:53.220 So instead by popular vote in Virginia, they want to do it by who wins the most congressional

00:49:57.660 districts.

00:49:58.340 And we all know which way that leans, especially with Northern Virginia.

00:50:01.780 The other thing they want to do, excuse me, is they want to change our electoral college

00:50:08.260 votes from the way it's normally run to the national popular vote.

00:50:14.000 This is a complete and total power grab by the left sponsored for and paid for by Michael

00:50:21.000 Bloomberg and George Soros.

00:50:22.940 So shame on all you people, all my fellow right wing people who didn't go out and vote in

00:50:29.300 November.

00:50:30.040 This is what happens when you don't vote.

00:50:34.220 That is a, um, a great perspective that I don't think Americans have heard.

00:50:41.540 Thank you, Sal.

00:50:42.400 Let's go to Jake.

00:50:43.880 Hi, Jake.

00:50:44.880 You're in Virginia.

00:50:46.120 What's up?

00:50:46.500 Yes, sir.

00:50:48.840 Uh, I'm actually in Charlottesville, Virginia, and, um, I, uh, was born and raised here and,

00:50:55.120 um, you know, my family, grandparents, we grew up living off the land, you know, um, yeah,

00:51:01.300 just, just for them to eat.

00:51:03.240 And, um, myself as an early kid as well.

00:51:06.040 And, um, still to this day, my thing is, is, you know, there's a rumor around here as

00:51:12.820 well, you know, saying miners can't hunt anymore in Virginia.

00:51:16.280 Uh, I don't know exactly if that's true, but that's the word going around here.

00:51:21.420 Um, and just like the other call, just like the other caller said, you know, we, we did

00:51:26.760 this to ourselves, you know, we, we weren't paying attention and I, I'm one of those people

00:51:32.040 I regret to say, you know, and, uh, now look, here we are now.

00:51:36.580 Um, and, um, it, it's really disheartening, um, you know, all my friends and family, you

00:51:42.620 know, we're for guns, um, we've never had a, a bad, you know, gun incident or anything

00:51:48.220 like that.

00:51:49.080 Um, we simply just like to shoot guns at the range and, uh, you know, hunt deer, turkey,

00:51:56.300 um, you know, and put a good old meal on the table.

00:51:59.940 And the people who don't actually, uh, hunt for their food around here, they're all very

00:52:04.280 curious and, uh, open to it.

00:52:06.520 You know, it's, uh, it's a big thing for us and, um, you know, and, uh, to go on to

00:52:13.040 my next point, if that's all right, you know, um, do you think that, you know, the governor

00:52:18.300 or whoever is going to, you know, uh, call, uh, you know, white supremacists and people

00:52:24.680 to be there to cause conflict?

00:52:26.200 Do you think they want conflict there?

00:52:29.000 Um, I think Jake, I think it's, um, it's, uh, not helpful.

00:52:34.280 To, uh, speculate, uh, as you get close to an event like this, um, you can look in history

00:52:43.240 and you can look at the, uh, for instance, I, uh, I, I would go to the Bernie Sanders,

00:52:50.020 uh, supporter, uh, that has just been relieved, uh, just been, uh, you know, exposed by project

00:52:57.840 Veritas as someone who says, we're going to go to Milwaukee and we're going to burn it down

00:53:01.740 to the ground.

00:53:02.260 If there's trouble with Bernie Sanders, we're going to, I mean, this, they're going to,

00:53:05.460 we're going to make 1968, 1968 look like a picnic in Milwaukee.

00:53:09.320 Um, okay.

00:53:11.020 Well, that's just one guy that's saying that, but there are those supporters that think like

00:53:16.020 that.

00:53:16.400 Um, and, and in Virginia, you should know that because one of Bernie Sanders supporters,

00:53:20.980 uh, went and tried to shoot the Republican members of Congress and, and almost killed one,

00:53:29.060 uh, and could have killed all of them, uh, if, if, if God, I think hadn't had some divine

00:53:36.520 providence on our, uh, on our country that day, uh, we could have had a real tragedy.

00:53:40.900 And that was a guy who was a low level staffer of, of Bernie Sanders.

00:53:45.560 There are people to quote Batman that, or actually, um, uh, Alfred, there are people that just want

00:53:55.500 to watch the world burn.

00:53:57.920 And just to clarify, you said he was a low level staffer.

00:54:01.340 Uh, is it, is, was correct?

00:54:02.980 Was he actually fired?

00:54:03.880 Have we heard anything about that?

00:54:05.800 Or does he hold on to that job?

00:54:07.360 No, I, you know what?

00:54:08.520 I, I stand corrected.

00:54:10.260 I don't know if he's lost his job.

00:54:12.240 I haven't heard anybody demanding it.

00:54:14.060 Look at what he said.

00:54:15.660 Yeah.

00:54:16.100 I mean, look at what he said.

00:54:17.300 I think you can fairly say like, this is not Bernie Sanders, right?

00:54:20.120 This is some low level guy.

00:54:21.160 He's making, you know, 25, $30,000 a year, you know, as a, as a campaign guy.

00:54:24.960 But, uh, if he doesn't get fired after this, then I think maybe you can say it is.

00:54:29.660 You imagine an intern, you imagine an intern for me saying that.

00:54:33.540 Oh my gosh.

00:54:34.020 They would be calling for my head, especially if I didn't fire him.

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