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Glenn Beck is joined by Jonathan Cahn for part 1 of his new book, "The Return of the Gods" and talks about the ancient gods and what they did to America. Also, the Dow and S&P 500 hit new records in February and the unemployment rate hit a new all-time low.
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We did not get to JPMorgan Chase and Jamie Dimon, what he said.
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We have to share it with you on tomorrow's podcast or just look it up.
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He said that the government should just start claiming eminent domain on farmland
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so we could, you know, have more solar panels and wind power.
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On today's program, we really nailed down a couple of issues.
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You need to listen to this and take a stand in your own life.
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It's a real challenge to you today on the podcast.
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And then Jonathan Cahn joins us for part one of The Return of the Gods,
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a new book that I've been reading that is really exceptional.
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It makes it very clear what's happening to America.
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And when you hear the ancient gods and what they brought and what they did to a nation
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when the people started worshipping them, you will see we are, without knowing, worshipping these three powerful gods.
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He's got hopeful message for us tomorrow, but you need to have the basics of what these gods are.
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All on today's podcast brought to you by American Giant.
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Clothing factory was failing in North Carolina.
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They had to shut down because all the business was going overseas.
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We used to buy 95% of our clothing here in America was made in America.
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And he decides, let me talk to the factory owners.
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I'll invest in new machinery and skill development.
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Because he wanted to start making American clothing again.
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And he loved the old Champion sweatshirts and the hoodies that you can't buy anymore.
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And most of them were sitting over in Japan, you know, sitting in mothballs.
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He retooled the factory, went and skilled labor here in America.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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Well, I am just wrapped up with good news today.
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It seems like maybe this isn't all just transitory.
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Also, we're going to talk to you a little bit about, you know, something that I just love.
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We're going to talk about his endorsement, not only for Bud Light, but also now for Nike
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Now, if you want to have a guy advertise sports bras, you get me to do it, okay?
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So, we've got an exciting time happening for us.
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Now, the government numbers are a little different than the ADP numbers, but the ADP jobless numbers
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But from ADP, it shows private sector hiring has decelerated, and it's another sign that
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the U.S. is headed for a sharp slowdown, or dare I say it, recession.
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So, the company payrolls rose by just $145,000 for the month, down from an upwardly revised
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$261,000 in February, and below the Dow Jones estimate of $210,000.
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But I believe ADP has a very complex system because they're a payroll company, and what
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they do, is my understanding, I could be wrong, is they look at how many paychecks they cut
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last month, and then they give us the number that they cut this month, and they either add
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Now, if they add some sort of fancy algorithm, I would say that's why you can't trust it.
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You know, you're looking at all the companies, and you're like, hmm, how many checks did we
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But the government has, you know, a New York Times bestseller list kind of algorithm going
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So, I know there's something that came out today, which is one of those more, like,
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It always comes out on Friday, and it comes out tomorrow.
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There's something that comes out today in jobs.
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There was something else that came out separately today.
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But the big number, I like this quote, by the way.
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This is from a chief economist at ZipRecruiter, actually.
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I think the image for me that most sums up where we are, labor market, is a chart by Bloomberg's
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chief economist, which shows that mentions of job cuts are now higher than mentions of
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That's a big reversal after 2021 and 2022, where very much the years of the labor shortage
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and everyone was talking about how they were struggling to find workers were at a tipping
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So we had all these people living off the teat of the government, and they wouldn't work.
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Now, the people who will work are losing their job.
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By the way, ChatGPT, they did an analysis of the job market.
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But they did this at the behest of a Goldman trader, and he put in all of the things.
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And it looks as though gold is going to hit, this according to Citigroup, $2,300 in the near term.
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Okay, the reason why Citigroup is saying that it may reach $2,300 in the near term, gold has found itself on solid ground as the U.S. dollar's strength tapered.
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Okay, are any of your friends paying attention to this?
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Because this is the most – I read a diary of a guy from World War II, and he was in Germany during the Weimar Republic.
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And he said nobody had any idea what hyperinflation even meant.
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He said we were just going along and we had inflation and, you know, things weren't great, but it wasn't hyperinflation.
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He said seven days later, that was the only conversation you would have with anyone in Germany.
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It's not like we're doing the slow approach to it now.
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Now, this is the time for you to explain this to your friends and to your neighbors, that massive change is coming.
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And the reason why you explain it is the opposite of what Neil Cavuto told me one time.
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Neil Cavuto, I said in 2008 that I thought we were headed for a crash and the banking system didn't make any sense.
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These home loans were out of control, and he – when we got off the air, he didn't even look at me.
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And I said – and Neil and I were friends, and I said, is there a problem?
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And he said, you're the most irresponsible man I've ever met.
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We don't tell the American people because they will freak out.
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And I said, respectfully, Neil, I disagree with you.
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We have to tell the American people or they will freak out.
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It is the government's belief, and it is many journalists' belief, that if they tell you these things, then it'll make you go do it.
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That way we have a better chance of not eating each other for dinner.
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Now, I told you yesterday that China and Malaysia were discussing the Asian Monetary Fund.
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Tell me that our friends are not going to abandon us and our dollar.
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The Mexican president, Orbrador, has written to officials in China requesting Beijing's help in stemming the flow of fentanyl into Mexico.
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Now, I for one would just like to say at this point, I hope Beijing funds a wall on our southern border.
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If Mexico's northern border could just be protected by a wall, wow, I'd be very disappointed.
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He said at a news conference that he had written the Chinese after U.S. officials encouraged him.
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U.S. officials encouraged him to reach out to Beijing in a recent visit.
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Why would we encourage the Mexicans to reach out for help from the Chinese, our enemy?
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The Mexican president also struck out at the U.S.
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He complained about the U.S. in his letter and the rude threats coming from the U.S. officials to classify Mexican drug cartels as terrorist groups.
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He said, we've come to you in his letter to President Z.
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We've come to you, President Z, not to ask for your support in the face of these rude threats, but to request that for humanitarian reasons, you help us control shipments of fentanyl that can be sent from China to our country.
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Unjustly, unjustly, the United States is blaming us for problems that in large measure have to do with their loss of values.
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These positions are in themselves a lack of respect and a threat to our sovereignty.
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And moreover, they are based on an absurd, manipulative, propagandistic, and demagogic attitude.
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That's our friend Mexico writing a letter to President Z in China.
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Top Saudis now said that they are meeting with the Iranians in Beijing for a new peace conference.
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This is coming from an Iranian official who's standing right with a Saudi official.
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Quote, the era of the United States' involvement in this region, the Middle East, is over.
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The regional countries are capable of preserving security and stability in the Middle East without any interference from Washington.
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Do you remember when the experts all said that a Biden administration would restore us in good standing with the rest of the world?
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A Biden administration would put us back where we belong.
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And non-experts like me said, no, no, they won't.
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No one respects us with this kind of leadership.
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Little did I know we would not only not be respected, but we would be shunned because of what's happening in our country.
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If you're driving, especially, or if you're in the office or in a meeting and you got the earbuds in and they think you're listening, don't stand up.
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I am for the sanctity of a mother and father's relationship with their child and their protected space around that child.
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And I know a lot of people are like, he's not traditional.
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You know, I believe all the same things you do.
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I just happen to believe some other things as well.
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Our virtues and our values are exactly the same.
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Now, I want to tell you a story about a mom up in Oregon.
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And she lost her husband and wanted to adopt a couple of kids.
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And what the state has put her through is absolutely astonishing.
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Jessica Bates is with us now, as is her attorney, Johannes Viedmomm-Delfangs.
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So, Jessica, tell me what happened, your journey with the state on adoption.
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So, I felt like God had put it on my heart to look into adoption and went ahead and got
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in touch with the Department of Human Services.
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And after finishing their Resource and Adoptive Families training, I let them know that some of
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their things that they teach about sexual orientation and gender identity, you have to support their
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views and you have to, would have to take a child for cross-sex hormone injections or
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possibly post pride flags or LGBTQ plus things on your lawn.
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And they ended up denying my application to adopt.
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There was a phone call where they basically said, we're going to put you on hold.
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If you change your mind, we can put your application back into circulation.
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And then about two months later, they did officially deny me with the letter.
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Well, Oregon is discriminating based on religion.
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They're saying, they're making a sweeping claim, which is that people of a certain religious
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faith are categorically unfit to care for children.
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We believe that violates Jessica's First Amendment rights, both her rights to free exercise and freedom
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I live out in Vail, Oregon, which is a pretty small little rural area outside of Ontario.
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Is that part of the Oregon that wants to secede and go to Idaho?
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But so you must have support in your community.
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And this is just coming from the west coast of Oregon.
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Yeah, I've had, since the story kind of, since that first interview with Fox the other day,
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I've had a lot of people reach out and just had somebody here at work say, hey, I want
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to let you know, supporting you with what you're doing.
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And I would imagine you're going to take this all the way to Supreme Court if necessary.
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The Alliance Defending Freedom, Johannes, tell me about your support and your funding.
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It all comes, you're doing this for free for Jessica, right?
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We're supported by people who, you know, just want to support the work that we're doing,
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which is fighting for our God-given rights to live and to speak the truth.
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So when Jessica reached out, you know, we said that we wanted to stand by her.
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Do we have, Johannes, do we have any other examples of this happening in America where
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Well, so on two fronts, unfortunately, we have heard from other people who are going
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through a similar thing, being discriminated against because of their beliefs.
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But there hasn't been a lot of litigation over this.
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There is one case that went up to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals that's sort of in
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But other than, and then there was a case actually in Washington where Washington State settled
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and, you know, they basically relented and agreed that it violated the First Amendment
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It's going to be amazing to watch because, you know, if they change, like Washington,
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I would imagine the culture in the government is not supportive of that.
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I wonder how much of this is actually done just without people knowing about it.
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I mean, just since we filed the lawsuit, we've heard from people.
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Well, and, you know, unfortunately, I mean, hopefully what we're asking the court to do,
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right, is not just to protect Jessica, but to protect all people of faith, whether they're
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Christian, devout Jews, Muslims, you know, this goes beyond Jessica.
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And then obviously, when the state puts ideology above people the way that it's doing, it ultimately
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hurts the children in need, which is, again, why we filed this lawsuit.
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It's amazing to me, Jessica, that the left always says, well, nobody's going to want to
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And then they say to Christians, no, you can't adopt, which puts the mothers then in between.
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I mean, it's amazing how indecent all of this game is.
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It's definitely unjust, not a level playing field.
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And I think last year, there were about 8,000 children that touched the Oregon foster care
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They're so much better when they're set in loving families.
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And that's what I'm wanting to do and to open up the gate so that more families can help
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It's amazing to me also, we know the foster care system is broken.
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I know kids who have been in foster homes, and they're lucky to find a good home.
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And here's the state trying to take good, decent people out of the mix.
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You take Christians out of the mix for foster care.
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And Glenn, I would just add, you know, I mean, Christians have been doing this long
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before there were departments of health and human services, you know, providing these types
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And, you know, according to some surveys, practicing Jewish Christians are twice as likely to adopt
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Um, so for sure, you know, and I think that it's really pernicious because it really puts
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pressure on a lot of families to violate their conscience.
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You know, they may feel that, well, if I don't go through with this, who's going to take care
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Um, so the state is, this is really about pushing ideology onto people, trying to pressure
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Um, but all they want to do is, again, they're not asking, they're not saying they're entitled
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They just want to care alongside, you know, serve alongside others on an equal, yeah, exactly,
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You can help fund cases like this, um, adflegal.org.
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You know, I've talked to several of these legal foundations and, uh, they don't have a shortage
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of people willing to help and attorneys to volunteer their time.
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They're actually finding now a shortage of people willing to stand up.
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It's not who we are, you know, they always say, uh, going gets tough, the tough get going.
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Well, the going has gotten tough now and, uh, we cannot let fear stop us from doing the
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What are we going to, are you really that afraid in the grand scheme of things?
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When judgment comes, and it's going to come to all of us, when judgment comes, even if
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you don't believe in that, you just close your eyes at the end of your life and your life
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Do you want to see yourself standing up, protecting children from horror shows or sitting down when
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Well, there are a lot of reasons to be alive today.
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And standing, I can't think of a better, you know, everybody's like, we've got to go to war
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I've got, we've got to have reparations for slavery.
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Because there's 40 million slaves right now today in the world.
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That's more than the 400 years of slavery combined.
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Why don't we be abolitionists today so future generations don't go, what the hell were those
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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If you've been a long-term listener of the program back around 2010, I think, I started
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talking about the evil of Moloch and Baal and how I felt we were repeating all of the
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Well, a guy who's actually put meat on that bone, a great deal of meat, and I've learned
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a ton, just reading the book Return of the Gods, is Jonathan Cahn.
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First, kind of just show the state that we're in and entering if we don't wake up.
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You know, I got all sorts of emails recently when you shared the dream that you had.
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And you've been speaking about this for a whole while.
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And the thing is that we are witnessing changes in America that are massive, that are irrational,
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that even people who are not believers are saying, what is going on?
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And so the Return of the Gods is opening up this mystery.
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And the question being that, what if behind all this, it's not just happening randomly?
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And what if the gods that we hear about mythologically, they're not just tales, but there's something behind them?
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And the thing is that the Bible actually always gives the answer.
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And in the book of Deuteronomy, it says that when they're worshipping these gods, the word that it's used is the word Shedim.
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And the word Shedim doesn't just mean, you know, mythology.
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It says they offered up their children to the Shedim, these spirits.
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When that word was translated into Greek by the rabbis and it got into the New Testament, the word became daemonia.
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And so what it's saying is behind these gods of the ancient world were these spirits.
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And so, you know, when you look at pagan culture, you're looking at the signs of spirit possession.
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If you set the stage, what happened was Jesus happened.
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The gospel, the word of God goes into the pagan world, goes into the world of the gods.
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That's why Christians were thrown to the lions in the first centuries, over the gods.
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And the gods are, in a sense, it's the twilight of the gods.
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But the thing is, if behind the gods are spirits, then what happened to the spirits?
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And to that, the final kind of piece to set it up is this clue that Jesus gives.
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He says, when a spirit departs from a man, it goes looking for a place to dwell.
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Brings seven other spirits more evil than himself.
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And Jesus said, the last state is worse than the first.
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But what people miss when they hear this is that at the end, he says, so it will be with
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So the warning is, an entire civilization can get possessed, can be delivered, and can
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And the warning to America, or the warning to the modern world, is that any civilization,
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any nation, any culture that has been delivered of these things, like Western civilization has
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been, and it turns away from God, empties itself of God.
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And the spirits that were cast out of the house are coming back.
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And we want to understand what's been happening to America for the last half century or so.
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You know, the spirits of the point is to turn a Christian nation, or a Judeo-Christian
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And you alluded to something, which is very profound, is that look what happened when Germany
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So that's what's happening right now, and we're witnessing it.
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You make such a good point, and you go through all the facts, and we have you for an hour.
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So we're going to have you go through some of these things.
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But what's really important to remember, the first commandment in the Torah, you know,
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Christians will say, you know, I am, you know, the Lord thy God, and you'll have no other
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gods before me, but in the Torah, it says, I'm the Lord, your God, who brought you out
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And our founders believed we were completing that journey, and we made covenants.
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We were delivered from slavery, and now if you look at our society and you think, how
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could we have in eight years gone from abortion should be rare, legal, and safe to shout your
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How can we go from a society that says, hey, love is love, and you should be able to marry
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whoever you want, to drag queen shows with our preschoolers?
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The answer is, evil is real, and it has taken possession of this country.
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And when you look at the kind of the original test case, and you're alluding to it, I'm
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You know, Israel was in covenant with God, and when they turned away from God, it didn't
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What happened is these principalities came into the land.
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And they ended up doing exactly what, well, in other words, we're doing exactly what
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You know, you mentioned the founders of America, John Winthrop.
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You know, he dedicated America to God, this Puritan, and he said, we'll be as a city on
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He says, if we follow God, then the blessings that came on Israel will come upon America.
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You know, we became the greatest, most blessed nation.
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He said, if we turn away from God, if we turn to, and he literally says, to other gods,
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he says to the gods of our prophets, the gods of our desires, then the curses that came
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That is what we're dealing with, exactly what happened to ancient Israel.
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In fact, not only exactly, but the same principalities that came to Israel when they turned away from
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And, you know, to much of the, when you don't deal with God, you just look at it, it just
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But when you kind of take away the veil and see, it makes total sense.
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So I was on this track for a while, and I'm so glad you wrote this book, because you taught
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And I think it's a book that everyone in this audience should read.
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It's called Return of the Gods by Jonathan Cahn.
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But I stumbled onto this about 2008, I was watching the Occupy Wall Street people, and
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they started using excrement to smear on things.
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And it became so barbaric at times, so ancient.
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And I called a friend of mine, who I think you know, Rabbi Daniel Lappin, and I said, what's
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This is the kind of things that happened in the ancient world, happened at the fall of
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France, when they smeared excrement over everything.
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And the more I look at, especially with our children, sacrificing our children, that was
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Let's talk about the first one, which is Baal, I believe, is the first one for you.
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In the Return of the Gods, I call it the Dark Trinity.
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And you know, when you look at the fall of Israel, when they turned away from God, there
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are three main principalities, or three main gods that really embody the whole fall.
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And the first one who's always mentioned, and you've mentioned him many times, the first
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that you always mention first is Baal, and or Baal.
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And the thing is that the name means literally, you know, I call him the possessor, because
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It means the possessor, the owner, the master, and the Lord.
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And so the thing is, he's the first, again, he's almost like that spirit that, when Jesus
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speaks about that first spirit that comes back to the house.
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So this is what Baal did to ancient Israel, is a few things.
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One, it said, once the door was opened, he began, the spirit began to drive God out of
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And that's exactly what's been happening to America.
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And you know, when you look at the early 60s, we opened the door.
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You know, we said, we're going to take prayer out of school, we're going to take the word
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It's a real big deal, because you're taking God from the children, which is the future,
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And you know, the law of Jesus in this, the parable, is that the house, you empty the
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So you know, we took God out of the school, we took God from the children, look at what
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Look at what has now come into the children, because it's not going to stay empty.
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And so what Baal does, we've been watching this progressive, driving God out of the house
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And that is a dangerous thing for any nation, any Christian nation to do that, or Judeo-Christian
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nation, this is going to, something else is coming in.
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So you have the progressive driving out of God, out of the culture, out of the public
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Or then, also it says that Baal caused Israel to forget God.
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Well, that's exactly what's happened to America.
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You know, when you look back, before the 60s, you had an America where actually the public
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school teachers are leading the children in the Lord's Prayer, we can hardly imagine that
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Because it has been so successful, we've not only forgotten God, we've forgotten that we
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And then, it also says he caused them to overturn or abandon the ways of God.
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Well, we've been watching that progressively happen.
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We literally, it literally caused us to literally strike down the Ten Commandments.
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And it's not only in these, I would say, overt ways, but also in very, in ways we don't
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For instance, you know, with monotheism, you have one God, you've got one truth.
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You know, with paganism, you have many gods and many truths.
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So all of a sudden, there's this thing in our culture that it's your own authentic truth.
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You know, if a man says, I'm not a man, I'm a tree, well, then that's his authentic truth.
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You know, that's not enlightenment, that's paganism.
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You know, and another thing we wouldn't think about, but the Bible says that when they turned
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away from God, when they turned to Baal, they started serving the works of their hands.
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Well, interesting, because when Paul, the Apostle Paul, speaks about the pagan world and
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So here we are now, we have become slaves to our own technology.
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We literally, you know, people are enslaved, a whole generation is enslaved to their phones,
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to the computer, and it says that they become like the ones that they're idols.
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They become like, so we have a generation becoming less and less human.
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You know, we have, that one is just addicted to this, and while our machines become more
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human, start taking more power, we literally have artificial intelligence that can now master
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So in every single way, this is a process of paganization.
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And when it comes to becoming more like our master, we're now talking about transhumanism.
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We're now talking about merging man with machine, and that's five years away.
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And this is, you know, this is also part of it, Glenn.
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You know, we have transhumanism, we have the merging of man and machine, we have the
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And when you look at the, you know, when you look at the ancient, ancient paganism, you see
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Number one is they put, you know, they had images of man and animal.
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Well, we're doing the same thing now, not with clay, but with the genetic code.
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You know, and also, you know, the person was basically, was linked to his, there's confusion
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in paganism between, you know, image and reality, and, you know, and basically the idol and god.
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So, yeah, so we merge, we're merging ourselves with our works, with our, and also even we
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We're confusing, we can't even, we don't even have a clear concept of reality anymore.