The Glenn Beck Program - July 02, 2024


Best of the Program | Guest: Jonathan Turley | 7⧸2⧸24


Episode Stats

Length

44 minutes

Words per Minute

158.32626

Word Count

7,029

Sentence Count

578

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

Glenn Beck and Jonathan Turley discuss the Supreme Court's recent ruling on the Trump vs. Obama Supreme Court case and the implications for the future of the presidency. Glenn also talks about a story about Dr. John Legend and his dog.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 So there's a big story about dogs that Stu's all over today.
00:00:35.500 I've got, well, I'm going to save it for the show.
00:00:37.160 You don't want to miss that.
00:00:38.440 Also, Jonathan Turley is with us.
00:00:40.120 I mean, I think, Stu, I think we're friends.
00:00:42.480 I think we're friends now.
00:00:45.000 And I didn't make it weird.
00:00:47.480 Just that I want to be his friend so I can, you know, steal some of his viewpoints before he prints them and make them my own.
00:00:55.060 Have you noticed Jonathan Turley is ripping this show off all the time?
00:00:58.440 Never do that, Jonathan.
00:00:59.480 Never do that.
00:01:01.180 Just let's exchange digits and we can chat, you know, before you write your articles.
00:01:06.160 And they help you think them through.
00:01:07.460 Anyway, Jonathan Turley is on with us as well.
00:01:09.880 A lot of great fun on today's broadcast.
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00:02:36.420 Well, I just don't know what to say.
00:02:39.160 I watched the president's speech last night.
00:02:41.100 And everybody coming out and saying, he could go after us.
00:02:45.380 He could just shut us down.
00:02:47.480 Now that the Supreme Court has ruled, Donald Trump, if he is elected,
00:02:51.520 he'll come in and he'll start putting people in jail.
00:02:55.760 I want you to remember that here for just a second.
00:02:58.120 We'll get back to it.
00:03:00.400 Here's what the president had to say last night at a press conference.
00:03:05.040 Scott Nye.
00:03:08.220 The presidency is the most powerful office in the world.
00:03:14.960 It's an office that not only tests your judgment, perhaps even more importantly,
00:03:19.860 it's an office that can test your character.
00:03:22.560 Yes.
00:03:22.920 Because you not only face moments where you need the courage to exercise the full power
00:03:27.040 of the presidency, you also face moments where you need the wisdom to respect the limits
00:03:32.360 of the power of the office of the presidency.
00:03:34.720 Yes.
00:03:35.240 Stop there for a second.
00:03:36.360 So, Stu, like, what would some of those limits be?
00:03:39.720 Like, you know, because it's an awesome responsibility to be president of the United States,
00:03:44.320 but you can't just do anything, right?
00:03:48.160 Like, what would some of the limits be?
00:03:50.220 You couldn't just go out and kill people, right?
00:03:53.760 I don't know.
00:03:54.580 That's not what I've been hearing, Glenn, over the past 24 hours.
00:03:58.120 My understanding is the Supreme Court gave a, like, James Bond license to kill to the president
00:04:05.860 of the United States.
00:04:06.840 No.
00:04:07.660 No, I don't think that's true, but we'll continue to listen.
00:04:10.840 Yeah, immune, immune, immune, immune.
00:04:12.820 I didn't hear the whole speech, so we'll go on.
00:04:14.960 I was thinking, like, something smaller, like, maybe you say, hey, you've got student loans.
00:04:24.140 I can't help you with those.
00:04:26.180 That would be the constitutional thing.
00:04:28.200 But the president couldn't just say, I'm going to just, you know, forgive all student loans, right?
00:04:34.100 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:34.840 That, I mean, you're thinking of the old-timey America.
00:04:39.020 There was a version of America where the, you know, the head of the executive branch
00:04:44.260 couldn't just spend $500 billion on a whim without Congress.
00:04:48.640 But those days are long gone, Glenn.
00:04:51.200 Okay, but it would go to the Supreme Court.
00:04:52.800 It was wrong.
00:04:53.360 It would go to the Supreme Court, and then they'd tell the president to stop, and he would.
00:04:56.400 Yeah, they'd shoot it down.
00:04:57.200 And, well, no, he would just do it again.
00:05:00.240 Oh.
00:05:00.660 Yeah.
00:05:01.000 Oh, it went to the Supreme Court already.
00:05:02.560 Yeah, and they shot it down.
00:05:03.400 He used to find the Supreme Court.
00:05:04.120 That's weird.
00:05:04.520 Yeah, so then he just did it again.
00:05:07.480 And then, but in a slightly different way, like 1% different, and then sends it up through
00:05:12.580 the courts again.
00:05:13.340 And again, it's going to get rejected again.
00:05:16.220 Huh.
00:05:16.580 But then he'll just do it again.
00:05:18.840 Right.
00:05:19.500 So that's weird.
00:05:20.480 It's an awesome power.
00:05:22.160 And, you know, it shows character.
00:05:24.980 You know, when you restrain yourself from doing those things that you can't do.
00:05:28.740 Anyway, I digress.
00:05:30.180 Back to the president.
00:05:31.040 To respect the limits of the power of the office of the presidency.
00:05:35.820 Limits.
00:05:36.220 This nation was founded on the principle of kings in America.
00:05:40.820 Right.
00:05:41.000 Each, each of us is equal before the law.
00:05:44.420 No one.
00:05:45.660 No one is above the law.
00:05:47.800 Okay, stop for a second.
00:05:48.740 Stop, stop, stop.
00:05:49.820 Stop for just a second here.
00:05:51.440 Stu, are we all equal under the law right now?
00:05:54.160 I mean, is that true?
00:05:56.100 Doesn't seem true.
00:05:56.840 Like, for instance, if you were held in contempt of Congress, right, you'd go to jail, right?
00:06:04.240 Yeah.
00:06:04.520 Like, Steve Bannon just went to jail yesterday.
00:06:07.440 Sure.
00:06:07.860 Another Trump advisor who said, no, I can't share that.
00:06:11.140 That's executive privilege.
00:06:12.400 They sent him to jail.
00:06:13.920 Navarro, yeah.
00:06:14.440 But, yeah, but it's, but it's all, it's all equal, right?
00:06:18.260 I mean, let's say somebody was, yeah, not releasing tapes of testimony.
00:06:26.540 Um, and they say, well, that was executive privilege and they're in contempt of Congress.
00:06:33.320 They go to jail as well, right?
00:06:35.660 No, no, no, no.
00:06:36.660 I mean, I don't know what you're talking about specifically, but what you just described
00:06:40.160 does not sound at all like something that you would go to jail for.
00:06:43.080 Let's say that you were the head of the DOJ.
00:06:46.400 Right.
00:06:46.820 And Congress said, you have to produce this information.
00:06:51.940 And then you didn't.
00:06:53.080 Right.
00:06:53.460 You would be in contempt of Congress.
00:06:55.280 Oh, no.
00:06:55.900 No, you don't go to jail?
00:06:57.340 No, no.
00:06:58.120 That doesn't seem like a jailable offense at all.
00:07:00.440 Like, you know, it's like, I can see where you're getting confused here.
00:07:03.660 Like, for example, if you were to, um, like, riot at a federal building, right?
00:07:13.780 Right.
00:07:13.980 That's something you'd go to jail for.
00:07:16.620 It's wrong.
00:07:17.420 Right.
00:07:17.680 You don't do those things.
00:07:19.260 Right.
00:07:19.600 It's the darkest day.
00:07:20.820 Yeah.
00:07:20.980 And then there's, there's another separate scenario where let's say you were to riot at a federal
00:07:28.140 building.
00:07:28.880 You don't go to jail for that.
00:07:30.840 But wait, there was just a federal building.
00:07:32.560 Yeah.
00:07:32.680 If you riot at a federal building, you're going to jail.
00:07:35.180 But if you're just simply rioting at a federal building, then you don't go to jail.
00:07:40.080 You don't go to jail.
00:07:41.000 Um, so is it kind of like, cause it's a very subtle difference.
00:07:44.060 It's kind of like when you're praying in front of abortion clinic, uh, you go to jail.
00:07:50.540 Jail.
00:07:51.060 And, but if you burn down an abortion clinic, you don't go to jail.
00:07:56.220 Depends on, are they not, are you burning it down because they're not doing enough abortions?
00:08:00.340 If you burn it down because they're not frequently aborting enough kids, then yes, you do not go to
00:08:05.440 jail.
00:08:05.660 Uh, but if you burn it down because you think they're doing too many abortions, then obviously
00:08:10.120 you go to jail.
00:08:11.420 Okay.
00:08:11.480 So if you burn down an abortion clinic, you would go to jail if you disagree with them.
00:08:16.700 But if you, if you burn down the people's, uh, you know, uh, business where they were pro-life,
00:08:24.280 you also go to jail.
00:08:26.900 Uh, they're pro-life, the owners of the, of the business.
00:08:29.520 Yeah.
00:08:29.840 No, you would not go to jail for that.
00:08:31.480 That, why would you go to jail for that?
00:08:32.880 That's stupid.
00:08:33.440 I just, I just want to make sure that I understand equal justice under the law, that we're all
00:08:37.460 judged exactly the same.
00:08:38.600 Now I think we have it.
00:08:39.380 All right, go ahead with President Biden.
00:08:42.000 Not even the president of the United States.
00:08:45.400 Today's Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity, that fundamentally changed for all,
00:08:52.740 for all practical purposes.
00:08:54.580 Today's decision almost certainly means that there are virtually no limits on what a president
00:08:59.280 can do.
00:09:00.820 Wow.
00:09:01.220 It's a fundamentally new principle.
00:09:03.400 Yeah.
00:09:03.920 It's a dangerous precedent.
00:09:05.940 Dangerous.
00:09:06.180 Because the power of the office will no longer be constrained by the law, even including the
00:09:10.880 Supreme Court of the United States.
00:09:12.840 Wow.
00:09:13.440 Stop just a second.
00:09:14.620 That is news, isn't it?
00:09:16.820 I mean, especially to the Supreme Court.
00:09:18.540 That is news that no matter what the president does, even if it breaks the law, you're not
00:09:26.880 going to have to pay a price for it.
00:09:28.520 I didn't know that.
00:09:29.600 I didn't know that.
00:09:30.380 See, what the left is afraid of right now is what they're saying is he's going to silence
00:09:35.640 speech.
00:09:36.760 Donald Trump will silence any dissent.
00:09:39.160 And that's not happening now.
00:09:40.800 Hmm.
00:09:42.180 Or he would put his, he'd put his, you know, former allies, I mean, his former foes in jail.
00:09:52.080 You know, for instance, let's say you're, you're running against a guy who Donald Trump didn't
00:09:56.620 think he could beat.
00:09:57.720 Then he would just make up some charges and then get the guy arrested and then keep him,
00:10:03.220 you know, in the court system until you finally got him into jail.
00:10:07.740 That's what Trump could do.
00:10:09.200 Trump could do that, uh, because of yesterday's rulings.
00:10:13.580 Uh, so that's pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty frightening.
00:10:16.980 You know, I think if we're really going to go all the way, what should be terrifying is
00:10:23.020 that Donald Trump could just round up a whole group of people because he didn't like them.
00:10:28.720 You know what I mean?
00:10:29.560 Just round them up and then put them like in a concentration camp, uh, kind of like FDR
00:10:36.720 did with the Japanese and that wouldn't be illegal.
00:10:40.400 You know, he'd get out of office and he'd never pay the price that FDR had to pay.
00:10:47.600 Which was, did he named our best president?
00:10:51.280 Well, yeah, that's over and over again by historians.
00:10:53.880 Yeah, the guys who violate these are always the progressives, always the deep, deep progressives
00:11:02.940 are the ones who violate all these things.
00:11:06.280 Now, when it comes to just killing people or doing something illegal, the Supreme Court
00:11:12.020 case laid out, it must be constitutional.
00:11:18.120 So if the, if the president acts in an unconstitutional way, then you can get him.
00:11:27.880 But unless it's, unless it's unconstitutional, he can't do it.
00:11:33.100 So it would be unconstitutional to round up the people that disagreed with you.
00:11:38.140 It would be unconstitutional to silence those who oppose you.
00:11:42.340 It would be unconstitutional to go after your opposing political, uh, foe and try to put
00:11:48.720 them in jail.
00:11:50.560 All things that Joe Biden is currently doing.
00:11:54.940 Yeah.
00:11:55.600 I mean, it's funny, this ruling is coming from Roberts, who's an institutionalist, right?
00:12:01.280 Like if anything, we've complained about him a million times because he's so unwilling
00:12:05.700 to shake up things just because, you know, it happens to be the constitutional way.
00:12:11.800 I mean, Obamacare is a great example of that.
00:12:13.660 Like it was, ah, it's going to shake things up and I don't want to give the impression
00:12:16.220 that we're, you know, too impactful on society.
00:12:19.020 He's always doing these things.
00:12:20.680 And that's in a way what this ruling is.
00:12:23.740 What he's saying is, hey, we shouldn't have, I mean, in a way it's designed specifically
00:12:30.020 to protect Joe Biden because everybody knows if there's no immunity, what do you think
00:12:35.600 Donald Trump's going to do when he's president of the United States after what he's just
00:12:38.160 been through?
00:12:39.080 He's going to go in there and find every little thing that he can and go after Joe Biden on
00:12:43.360 it.
00:12:43.960 He promised to do it with Hillary.
00:12:45.280 He didn't do it.
00:12:46.100 He now says he regrets not doing it.
00:12:48.880 And now they've done it to him.
00:12:51.060 So you think he's just going to sit back and be like, ah, you know, let me show you what
00:12:54.860 I'm going to do as president.
00:12:55.840 It's a shoulder shrug.
00:12:57.200 I don't think that's the way that's going to go down in a way Roberts is protecting
00:13:01.440 both sides from this back and forth that could easily come.
00:13:05.560 However, what the president has done is not constitutional and he should go to jail, not
00:13:11.260 for the things that he's done in office.
00:13:14.240 I disagree with all of his policies.
00:13:16.380 The whole thing of, you know, of, you know, taking away your student loans and things like
00:13:22.580 that, you know, that that's unconstitutional.
00:13:24.920 But I don't think that's something that you go after.
00:13:27.200 However, the business dealings with China.
00:13:31.160 Yeah.
00:13:31.560 Yeah.
00:13:31.800 I think that should be prosecuted.
00:13:33.800 At least as far as we know, while he was president, as far as we know, none of that
00:13:37.000 happened while he was president.
00:13:38.340 So that wouldn't be covered by this at all.
00:13:40.060 But what I think Roberts is doing here is just setting a high bar.
00:13:44.720 Of course.
00:13:45.660 Yes.
00:13:46.020 You can go after a president for the worst things in the world.
00:13:48.480 However, there's a high bar for you to clear.
00:13:51.900 So don't bother bringing up your BS nonsense every 10 seconds because it's not going to
00:13:56.940 work.
00:13:57.440 That is a that's a beyond the fact that we all knew what he said was true.
00:14:02.880 Official acts would be you'd be have immunity for like you're not able under the law, Glenn,
00:14:09.000 to kill people.
00:14:12.040 Right.
00:14:12.540 Like you don't just you can't just we like you couldn't send a drone to go start murdering
00:14:17.380 people in other countries.
00:14:20.040 The president with his powers, his commander in chief has powers that we don't have.
00:14:25.140 Right.
00:14:25.420 Like we all know that there is some sort of implied immunity for official acts.
00:14:29.340 So we all knew that we all knew unofficial acts would not be covered here.
00:14:33.620 There's nothing new in this ruling.
00:14:35.220 It was blatantly obvious.
00:14:36.600 Yet they have to do this charade every single time and act.
00:14:40.000 Oh, gosh.
00:14:40.560 Seal team six might come and just start being utilized to kill people.
00:14:44.480 How many how many different layers of checks and balances would have to including seal
00:14:51.020 team six just going along with this, which they would not be covered to do.
00:14:55.880 They would all get prosecuted.
00:14:57.380 They'd all be put in prison.
00:14:59.120 But like we're supposed to believe that Donald Trump would be completely fine for doing this.
00:15:03.280 It's insanity.
00:15:04.120 All right.
00:15:04.660 Well, let me just let me just end with this.
00:15:06.940 As the president is saying this, two things happened yesterday.
00:15:10.540 Christian pro-life father of 11 is now facing over a decade in prison.
00:15:16.820 He's going to be sentenced today for a peaceful protest in Tennessee.
00:15:21.780 It was a violation of the FACE Act.
00:15:23.460 You know, they were praying in the hallway.
00:15:25.440 What he said yesterday is this, quote, it's real easy for me.
00:15:30.140 I can go and go to battle and go to jail as an individual.
00:15:32.960 And it's not a big loss.
00:15:34.260 The challenge comes when you're leading your family through it.
00:15:36.940 When you're talking to your three-year-old and your 23-year-old and your other family.
00:15:42.060 Vaughn said that he wanted to pray to God, quote, every day and get up ready to take on
00:15:47.420 the day with whatever circumstances come my way with a humility and a grace and a spirit
00:15:53.400 led life that represents all of us in our society and represents him and our community
00:16:00.800 around us.
00:16:01.640 How many politicians order their life after truth and justice versus power, greed, negotiation
00:16:07.340 and negotiating principles?
00:16:10.220 So here's a guy who said, I believe what I believe.
00:16:13.540 God will be with me.
00:16:14.580 I'm going to go to jail.
00:16:15.740 At the same time, Bannon also went to jail for a contempt of Congress.
00:16:23.460 There are now 15, I believe, 15 people in the Biden administration that have been deemed
00:16:30.080 in contempt of Congress.
00:16:31.860 None of them are being prosecuted.
00:16:35.120 But Donald Trump's people are.
00:16:39.060 But Bannon said this, and I don't like Bannon.
00:16:42.140 OK, I don't agree with Bannon on everything.
00:16:44.180 I think he's a thought leader that I really strongly disagree with many times.
00:16:50.740 But he should not be going to jail.
00:16:53.980 He said, I am proud to go to prison.
00:16:56.540 If this is what it takes to stand up to tyranny, if this is if this what it takes to stand up
00:17:03.840 to the corrupt criminal DOJ, if this is what it takes to stand up to Nancy Pelosi, if this
00:17:10.720 what it takes to stand up to Joe Biden, then I am proud to do it.
00:17:15.760 You have people crying that they might go to prison while they're putting prison people
00:17:22.880 in prison for the things that they have done themselves.
00:17:30.780 Please, Mr. President, don't talk to me about out of control tyranny from the Supreme Court.
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00:19:03.580 Jonathan Turley, welcome to the program, sir.
00:19:05.980 It is an honor to have you.
00:19:07.740 Thank you very much, Glenn.
00:19:09.160 I really appreciate you having me on.
00:19:11.580 Yeah.
00:19:11.860 You are one of those guys that I have been watching since the Clinton thing, when I think you first
00:19:21.140 kind of really appeared in a big way.
00:19:24.760 And there are times, this is always a judge to me of when somebody is speaking their truth.
00:19:32.140 And I hate that word, those words, but when they're speaking from a position where they believe
00:19:39.080 this is the way it is, you piss me off sometimes, and you also really agree with me sometimes,
00:19:47.400 or I agree with you sometimes.
00:19:48.720 And that's really the secret of the Constitution, right?
00:19:51.980 I mean, it cuts both ways.
00:19:53.800 It does.
00:19:55.660 And I think that the point is, I think, profound that you're making, and that the key about
00:20:03.100 our system is this level of civility that we can disagree on occasion, but also recognize
00:20:10.120 that we have certain core values.
00:20:12.080 That's sort of what my new book's about, that there are certain core values that bond
00:20:17.800 us to each other, even when we vehemently disagree.
00:20:21.240 So would you say that that is the—because I've been trying to find what the problem
00:20:27.440 is, and forgive me if you disagree, but I think the biggest problem is this whole early
00:20:33.100 20th century progressive attitude that just goes beyond the Constitution and our written
00:20:40.400 principles.
00:20:41.700 But we don't agree on even the Bill of Rights anymore.
00:20:46.860 You can't, you know.
00:20:48.300 No, I agree with you, and it is coming from the left.
00:20:52.500 That's what my new book talks about, that I do believe that the greatest threat that we
00:20:59.460 have faced, particularly for free speech, is found in the times we're living.
00:21:04.860 I think this is the most anti-free speech period in our history, and it is the most dangerous
00:21:10.900 because there are differences, and one is this alliance that exists now that has never formed
00:21:17.780 before of the government, corporations, academia, and the media.
00:21:22.760 We've never had that before.
00:21:24.560 I mean, the sort of book goes through all the anti-free speech periods we've had.
00:21:29.800 We've never faced this organized effort.
00:21:34.060 And we can't assume that just because we survived earlier periods with our Constitution intact that
00:21:42.000 that that's going to be how this all plays out today.
00:21:44.880 First of all, I love you, so I'm going to give you a piece of advice because you are a constitutional
00:21:51.880 scholar.
00:21:52.640 I'm a broadcast guy.
00:21:54.840 Three times now you've said, my new book, always say, my new book, The Indispensable Right.
00:22:01.340 That way you just keep name dropping all the time.
00:22:04.460 My new book, The Indispensable Right, talks about that.
00:22:07.200 Anyway, his book is The Indispensable Right, and it is about the First Amendment and how freedom
00:22:14.640 of speech, there is this systematic effort to take it out.
00:22:19.580 So let's talk about that.
00:22:23.560 Well, you know, I'm still sort of amazed that we've seen this anti-free speech movement progress
00:22:32.200 to where it is.
00:22:32.940 I have a long chapter in The Indispensable Right.
00:22:37.380 Did I do that one right?
00:22:38.980 Yeah, you did.
00:22:39.640 You did.
00:22:39.980 Very good.
00:22:40.940 But I have a long chapter, for example, on academia and in higher education.
00:22:48.060 And I'm still surprised.
00:22:50.320 I've got a colleague who has drafted a new amendment to the First Amendment and has been praised
00:22:56.280 for it on NPR and other news organizations.
00:22:58.560 It is, she maintains that the First Amendment is excessively individualistic.
00:23:04.740 Those are her words.
00:23:06.100 And so the new amendment would allow the government to curtail free speech in the interest of equity.
00:23:12.420 And other, you know, other professors have published anti-free speech books that have also
00:23:19.200 been widely praised, saying that we have to get beyond individual rights.
00:23:23.860 Some Georgetown professors, a Harvard professor, a Yale professor said, we need to break away
00:23:29.040 from what they call constitutionalism.
00:23:31.540 So there's this war on rights generally coming from the left.
00:23:36.080 It is very popular among academics.
00:23:41.400 And it's gaining steam.
00:23:43.400 And so they're raising a generation now of speech phobics, kids that have been told their
00:23:48.880 whole lives, that free speech is harmful and triggering.
00:23:53.380 So there's two parts to this.
00:23:56.300 And I think your new book, The Indispensable Right, talks about it, where, you know, you
00:24:02.400 have this culture where we are teaching kids and everybody else, hey, that's harmful speech.
00:24:08.200 You can't say that.
00:24:09.200 Don't say that.
00:24:09.840 That hurts people.
00:24:10.420 Well, that could be a choice, but that's not that that speech.
00:24:16.640 The only speech that needs to be protected is the speech that everybody disagrees with or
00:24:21.700 finds offensive.
00:24:23.360 That's what that's what that's for.
00:24:25.320 You don't need to protect the nice, rosy speeches and the speech.
00:24:30.020 The other part of that is, as you say, is now being institutionalized.
00:24:35.560 But this really started with FDR.
00:24:38.500 It's taken taken some root with Cass Sunstein's works, hasn't it?
00:24:44.540 It has.
00:24:45.860 And what you're seeing is that it's now in vogue to be anti-free speech.
00:24:50.540 I'm a dinosaur in higher education.
00:24:52.860 I mean, most universities have purged conservatives, libertarians, Republicans from their ranks and
00:24:59.920 self-reported surveys.
00:25:02.020 About 40 percent in one survey didn't have a single Republican on on the faculty.
00:25:07.660 There was a you know, the book talks about how, you know, the Harvard Crimson had this
00:25:14.440 hilarious piece, which wasn't intended to be hilarious.
00:25:17.520 But they they did this huge piece on the last Republican on the Harvard faculty in this
00:25:25.200 department.
00:25:25.660 And it was like a 90 year old economist.
00:25:28.660 And they did everything but sort of poke him with a stick.
00:25:32.100 I mean, they were sort of fascinated about this is a real Republican still on Harvard's campus.
00:25:38.760 And what's a shame about that?
00:25:40.440 And I go I go into this and then this principle, right, because I I went to Chicago and loved it
00:25:47.340 because when I went there, it was like the Star Wars bar scene.
00:25:53.460 It's like every possible sort of view.
00:25:57.700 I actually lived in the in a way with the the Dorchester Cooperative where the book The Jungle
00:26:03.960 was written.
00:26:04.480 And in the basement was a bunch of Trotskyites that would meet next door was a bunch of libertarians
00:26:14.480 upstairs.
00:26:15.080 We had militant vegans and I loved it.
00:26:19.880 I thought most were absolutely insane.
00:26:22.660 But I was fascinated to talk to people that saw what I was seeing and and but concluded
00:26:29.060 something completely different from what I was concluding.
00:26:33.020 You don't get that anymore.
00:26:35.080 That is, no, I feel sorry for students today because it now the sole sort of range of viewpoints
00:26:42.460 goes from the left to the far left.
00:26:45.320 I think that is starting to change somewhat in public.
00:26:50.420 I don't it's not in academia and I don't know about your circles, but it is changing
00:26:56.900 to where I once again have friends that are far left, you know, that we disagree with each
00:27:07.360 other on a lot of things, but neither of us believe that our view should be enforced,
00:27:13.660 you know, and and and people silenced for their viewpoint.
00:27:19.120 The only way you learn and grow is if you have somebody say something that you are like, that's
00:27:24.060 that's not right.
00:27:25.380 And then you're challenged on it or you challenge them and then you either discover you're wrong
00:27:30.540 or they're wrong or there's something missing in the conversation that we both need to explore.
00:27:36.980 No, you're right.
00:27:39.040 I mean, the problem that I have is is how to regain greater intellectual diversity, particularly in higher education after this purging.
00:27:48.860 There's just simply very few alternative viewpoints and it is still a vicious environment.
00:27:56.040 You know, the book goes into stories of which book, which which book the indispensable right goes into these stories of academics.
00:28:06.260 You know, there's one guy in North Carolina that they pursued for years.
00:28:10.100 He had to go to court three times to keep his job.
00:28:13.600 Then someone found out he made a joke to a bunch of friends at a lunch and he was put again under investigation.
00:28:21.080 And finally, they pressured him to resign.
00:28:24.200 And on the last day that he would be a professor, he went home and blew his brains out.
00:28:30.560 And he's not the only suicide that what people don't understand is that if you are dissenting voice today in higher education,
00:28:39.160 they take everything away from you that an intellectual values, they take away publication opportunities, conferences, associations,
00:28:49.340 and they strip you of everything you value.
00:28:54.060 And it has succeeded in silencing professors.
00:28:58.600 I've had professors send stuff to my blog, which is a free speech blog.
00:29:02.240 And these are, and I always write back, say, why don't you write this up?
00:29:07.980 And they said, look, you know, I'm 40, I'm 50.
00:29:10.920 I, I don't, I can't lose this job and I can't be targeted.
00:29:15.760 I need to be able to publish.
00:29:17.940 And so it's been very successful.
00:29:20.400 What people don't understand is the reason that academic blew his brains out is that he went home and realized
00:29:26.780 that today was going to be my last day to do the only thing I ever wanted to do.
00:29:32.760 That's the environment we're living in now.
00:29:35.100 It is fearful and it's chilling.
00:29:38.380 So it goes beyond, let's move out of academia and talk about this,
00:29:44.580 this monster of public private partnerships in social media, for example,
00:29:50.580 where the government can come in and lay a heavy hand and sometimes they are willingly doing it.
00:30:00.000 Sometimes they're doing it because we got to negotiate with the government on this
00:30:03.380 and it's much more important, just let this go.
00:30:06.820 I mean, it's, it's, it seems to me that the administrative state has found that we don't need Congress anymore.
00:30:15.420 We don't need to try to pass anything.
00:30:18.880 We can just get others in the private sector to do what we want them to do and silence people.
00:30:28.260 No, that's absolutely right.
00:30:29.840 And, and I go into a great depth about this, this alliance and how it has laid out the indispensable right.
00:30:39.440 And I, you know, it's, this partnership is really quite daunting and it's been very successful.
00:30:47.740 And President Biden has played a big role in that.
00:30:51.980 I mean, Joe Biden is arguably the most anti-free speech president since John Adams.
00:30:57.700 This is the best of the Glenn Beck podcast.
00:31:02.980 It's a compilation of clips from various episodes.
00:31:05.480 If you want to dig deeper into this interview, check out the full podcast episode.
00:31:08.880 All right.
00:31:11.700 So, uh, I don't know if you saw Vogue magazine.
00:31:15.180 No, I don't even know where they sell those things anymore.
00:31:18.120 Um, but, uh, Vogue magazine, Jill Biden was on the cover and they, that's why they had to leave the debate.
00:31:25.700 And the very next day they had to be in New York, uh, with Annie Leibovitz doing a photo shoot with the whole family.
00:31:32.600 And it was great.
00:31:33.720 Um, so she's on the cover and she's wearing a beautiful Ralph Lauren dress, uh, which only retails for about $5,000.
00:31:41.780 So who doesn't have one of those in, uh, the closet?
00:31:46.500 Um, there, uh, you know, it's, it's, um, it's an interesting look.
00:31:52.960 She's wearing a $5,000 dress, uh, on the cover.
00:31:56.060 And, uh, then she talks about food prices and she knows that food prices are up and people are really struggling.
00:32:01.880 Uh, but she's, you know, she's a down to earth, Dr. B.
00:32:06.320 She is, she's, uh, you know, she teaches in Wilmington and she shops for her own groceries and, uh, uh, and she's, you know, working at the community college.
00:32:16.360 And she said, I assigned my students articles instead of books because books are expensive.
00:32:21.180 Wow.
00:32:21.400 That's how down to earth she really is.
00:32:23.240 She's great.
00:32:23.960 She's great.
00:32:24.800 Now she's married to, uh, Joe Biden, who is, has always been incompetent.
00:32:30.420 Let's, let's be honest about it.
00:32:32.280 Uh, never really did anything in his life.
00:32:34.260 That's why he's always a truck driver or, you know, I was, uh, you know, I, I taught, um, uh, constitutional law.
00:32:41.340 No, he didn't.
00:32:42.240 No, he didn't.
00:32:43.380 He's done every job.
00:32:44.860 He's lived in every neighborhood.
00:32:46.560 He's, you know, he was, he was there marching with civil rights.
00:32:49.120 No, he wasn't.
00:32:50.440 No, no, he wasn't.
00:32:52.240 Uh, he was standing up for Martin Luther King, you know, when he was in Congress.
00:32:55.580 No, he got into Congress in the early 1970s.
00:32:58.260 Martin Luther King was dead.
00:32:59.380 Uh, I don't know if he notices that he's always, he's making stuff up about himself.
00:33:05.140 I think because he's a bit player in somebody else's show.
00:33:09.440 He's always been a bit player and he wants to be the man.
00:33:13.900 Uh, you know, he wants to, you know, give himself credit for something because he doesn't have anything real.
00:33:20.760 Um, and I think, you know, he acted like a big shot and, uh, you know, he's not Bill and Hillary Clinton.
00:33:29.320 Uh, he's not as subtle at bribery and theft, I guess in, you know, Chelsea's not a crack addict.
00:33:38.260 So, you know, but I think, you know, he was playing the big shot by going over to, you know, Ukraine and say, yeah, I'm not going to give him that, you know, billion dollars unless they fire this prosecutor.
00:33:49.900 He had to tell that story.
00:33:52.020 He had to tell that story, even though it, it implicates him in crimes.
00:33:56.320 He had to tell that story because it made him a big man.
00:34:00.960 Now everything's starting to fold in on them and they, you know, they're going to get caught.
00:34:06.840 They're already the loans, the kickbacks, uh, you know, the, the 70 yellow flags from the treasury and banks.
00:34:15.980 I mean, it can be unraveled fairly easy.
00:34:20.300 Uh, he doesn't have the capability of hiding it anymore and she has to protect him and the whole family.
00:34:25.260 Can you imagine doing that?
00:34:27.540 They can't trust the Obamas to protect them.
00:34:30.920 I mean, Barack was running a lot of the show behind the scenes, but Michelle's not going to risk anything to save the Bidens.
00:34:37.540 And Jill knows if Joe doesn't control the justice department, they're sunk.
00:34:42.060 They're sunk.
00:34:42.620 I think she's trying to hold the crime family together as long as she possibly can.
00:34:48.620 Um, but also because she is, she's somebody who loves being the first lady.
00:34:55.040 She loves it.
00:34:56.180 You know, it's the one thing I had respect for, um, uh, Michelle Obama.
00:35:00.520 She didn't love it.
00:35:01.340 Now I lost respect cause she actually hated it and didn't want to be, you know, was, was just didn't want to be in the white house because of all the oppression and blah, blah, blah.
00:35:12.620 Um, but usually people who want it are dangerous when they have that much power.
00:35:17.200 You know, we've already had our first female president.
00:35:21.220 I don't know if people know that, and this isn't a trick, you know, it's not like, yeah, uh, it's, we actually had a female president for 17 months and it was in 1919 and it was Edith Wilson.
00:35:35.400 Um, she actually became the acting president cause she assigned herself.
00:35:40.880 I mean, she, her husband was trying to push, uh, the league of nations, which then later became the UN and America wouldn't have it.
00:35:49.700 And so he got on a train and he was traveling coast to coast.
00:35:53.060 And I think he was in California and in the middle of the speech, he did what Joe Biden is doing now.
00:35:57.540 He just stopped.
00:35:59.180 Uh, uh, uh, and everybody freaked out and he couldn't recover.
00:36:03.920 And so they rushed him off stage, put him on a train, rushed him back to, uh, uh, Washington DC.
00:36:10.620 And when I say rushed him back, put him on a train.
00:36:12.840 So it was days.
00:36:14.400 He gets back to Washington.
00:36:16.260 He has another stroke in the white house.
00:36:19.640 Edith is the only one that sees it.
00:36:21.220 She puts him in bed and realizes, oh boy, we're, we're in trouble here.
00:36:27.260 Cause you know, we're going to have to leave the white house soon.
00:36:31.240 Now she was, she was born poor.
00:36:35.240 She grew up, I think in West Virginia.
00:36:37.420 She married, uh, some old guy when she was young, who owned the largest jewelry store, I guess, in, in West Virginia.
00:36:46.800 And, uh, and so he was worth a lot of money.
00:36:50.440 So she married him young, then he died.
00:36:52.980 Uh, and then she decided I want to date Woodrow Wilson cause he's cool.
00:36:58.420 And, um, Woodrow Wilson fell in love with her, uh, because she had a kitten face.
00:37:04.860 I don't know exactly what that means.
00:37:08.100 Uh, Woody, but, uh, have you seen the cat lady anyway?
00:37:12.960 So he, you know, he marries her.
00:37:16.280 She just wants recognition.
00:37:18.880 She likes being someone.
00:37:21.520 Okay.
00:37:22.320 So she marries Woodrow Wilson.
00:37:24.300 And then a few years later, you know, he's, he's having a stroke.
00:37:29.620 Well, she was never anyone.
00:37:32.300 And now her ticket to being someone just dropped almost dead.
00:37:38.100 So they were, uh, they were in the white house with her kittenish good looks.
00:37:44.860 And, um, he's now in bed and everybody is talking in Washington, the cabinet, everybody, where's
00:37:55.220 the president now Woodrow Wilson gave her the keys, literal keys to all of the safe and
00:38:02.400 locked drawers and doors in the white house.
00:38:05.420 She would sit in on all of the war meetings and all meetings.
00:38:10.340 And she would just take notes exactly what Jill Biden has been doing.
00:38:15.940 Okay.
00:38:16.380 And then when he drops almost dead from a stroke, he's up in bed and she would go into the meetings
00:38:26.040 and she would say, it's okay.
00:38:27.580 President sent me down.
00:38:29.000 I'll report to him.
00:38:30.380 I'm just supposed to take notes and talk to you about it.
00:38:32.580 And then I'll report on what he says.
00:38:33.980 So they, she'd take notes and then she'd go upstairs and then she'd scribble stuff on
00:38:40.480 the side of all of her notes.
00:38:42.480 And she'd say, it's shaky handwriting, you know, cause he's, he, but he's, I went through
00:38:47.500 it and this is what he wants you to do.
00:38:49.240 It wasn't what he wanted to do.
00:38:51.180 It's what she wanted to do.
00:38:52.720 She wrote the little notes and then she would go back and she would say, this is what he
00:38:57.040 wants to do.
00:38:57.680 At one point, I think I'm probably wrong.
00:39:02.320 You'll have to look this up.
00:39:03.180 I think it was the treasury secretary is one of the secretaries, somebody in the cabinet
00:39:06.920 and they ordered a cabinet meeting to, uh, uh, come together and didn't alert her.
00:39:12.780 She fired him.
00:39:14.760 Okay.
00:39:14.900 Imagine the wife of the president.
00:39:16.520 She blamed it on Woodrow, but he wasn't, he wasn't around.
00:39:22.820 He couldn't understand it for 17 months.
00:39:26.400 Once this went on and, uh, she was, she called this her stewardship.
00:39:32.580 I'm just, I'm just being a steward of the president.
00:39:34.780 I'm just, you know, the country's in need and the president needs some rest.
00:39:38.820 And, uh, so he's just giving me the stewardship.
00:39:41.120 She was actually the president of the United States.
00:39:44.780 She was the acting president of the United States.
00:39:47.780 And she convinced the vice president, uh, that the president didn't need to be replaced
00:39:53.880 because, you know, they talked about what, what do we, we, we should probably have the
00:39:57.820 vice president.
00:39:58.420 And she's like, no, he's going to be fine.
00:40:00.340 You know, just be a couple more.
00:40:01.900 It's always a couple more weeks, just going to be a couple more weeks.
00:40:05.140 He's just, you know, he just needs some rest.
00:40:08.040 Uh, and, uh, you know, he's working from the bedroom and, uh, you know, I'm, I'm just
00:40:12.580 helping.
00:40:12.840 It's my stewardship.
00:40:13.660 It's, it's really my, my sacrifice for the nation.
00:40:19.860 Well, eventually, um, the Congress got together of his own party and they marched to the white
00:40:30.420 house and they got the cabinet together and they said, Edith, I demand to see the president
00:40:36.360 right now.
00:40:36.940 She said, well, you can't, he's sleeping.
00:40:38.780 Well, we don't care.
00:40:39.800 We, we need to see him right now because she was telling the democratic party, he's going
00:40:45.060 to run for a neck, uh, for another four years.
00:40:49.400 Now, what does that sound like?
00:40:51.920 So Edith Wilson starts to register her husband, Woodrow Wilson for a campaign.
00:41:00.160 He hasn't been seen in almost, uh, two years.
00:41:05.320 They said, uh, you're not running, um, we're going to let this run to run its course.
00:41:13.880 If you let us see the president right now, uh, and, uh, we won't kick him out of office,
00:41:22.220 but, uh, he's not running for president for a third term.
00:41:25.460 And this is going to come to an end.
00:41:28.120 That's finally what she agreed with.
00:41:30.860 She finally was like, okay, okay, okay, okay.
00:41:33.240 Now, up until her death in 1961, she said, oh no, no, I, I was never the president.
00:41:42.460 I was never the president.
00:41:44.560 Um, but I, I did know him so well that I did, you know, I just conferred that to the others
00:41:52.720 that that's what the president would want and would want to be doing right now.
00:41:58.680 But she was our first president.
00:42:00.460 Now, does any of that, any of that sound familiar?
00:42:06.500 Any of it?
00:42:07.300 Any?
00:42:07.920 Anybody?
00:42:12.460 So Jill Biden likes being the, uh, the first lady.
00:42:17.780 Uh, she's dangerously close to being POTUS, not FLOTUS.
00:42:25.580 And from apparently good sources around those who know, I don't put any stock into this,
00:42:35.880 but negotiations are underway.
00:42:38.320 And I do believe that just like negotiations were underway with Nixon, with Nixon and Watergate.
00:42:44.920 They said, okay, you're leaving because you don't have, but we're not going to, he's Ford
00:42:50.120 is going to pardon you.
00:42:51.160 So you don't go to jail and we're just going to walk away.
00:42:53.820 Nice.
00:42:55.900 Well, Jill has some power.
00:42:58.000 Um, she wants apparently protection from prosecution of the Biden family.
00:43:05.320 Uh, she wants $2 billion, a presidential library fund, uh, and she wants a guaranteed book deal.
00:43:14.640 Now, I don't know if any of this is true, but that's the kind of stuff that Edith Wilson
00:43:22.060 would have done.
00:43:28.000 Uh, building her, her husband into something that he really wasn't, uh, to make sure that
00:43:38.060 she is remembered and powerful and that she gets the credit she deserves.
00:43:47.220 We'll see.
00:43:48.140 I just thought it was an interesting, uh, history lesson today that maybe somebody might find
00:43:54.600 a little familiar today.
00:43:58.000 I don't think so.
00:44:02.220 But I can't...
00:44:07.180 I think so.
00:44:08.960 And I can't…
00:44:10.060 And I can't…
00:44:12.060 I can't…
00:44:14.060 I can't…
00:44:15.680 But then I'll just leave it.
00:44:19.440 hangs on to me.
00:44:20.100 So..
00:44:21.100 Anyway, um…
00:44:22.000 All right, right, Will.
00:44:22.640 Hold it.
00:44:22.720 Hold it…