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Glenn and Stu discuss the latest in the build up to war between China and Russia, the possibility of a nuclear attack on the United States, and the potential for world war 3. Don't miss it!
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it's funny too because i remember the way i remember that day at the space hill
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i was like first of all completely had no doubt at all and was not like trying to confirm it i was
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like really interested in hearing like why they did it and like how they did it and he's like
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yes they did yes they did i mean to be fair they clear like seemingly they clearly did
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they clearly did but like it it's like it didn't maybe happen the way you remember it
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what was i remembering then i don't know i remember the top of the space needle being
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on fire i was young i don't know how young do you remember brian williams like he remembered
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being like shot at a helicopter that's kind of what they were shooting going on someplace
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right this was one flame on the top of the space needle look i i can't explain your your
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dementia related medical ailments this stems from a what did you just say i'm not the one who was
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rooting for the eagles uh this stems from a 20 year fight that i thought i had finally settled
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on today's podcast plays a very minor role but it is huge to me um you'll hear that plus uh there's a
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a lot of things going on in washington now that i think we should pay attention to uh war seems to
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be the drum beats of war seem to be growing louder and louder we're in a cold war now with china and
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russia not a good thing we talk about the presidential candidates and who will be the best uh candidate
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that can convince people they can take care of the economy and a foreign war and i i think i mean we
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said it at the same time clearly pete buddha judge uh but he's busy not being busy in ohio and we
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cover that as well all on today's podcast don't forget to rate and review the podcast if you would
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stu and i were just talking about what's going on with this build up to war and i i warn you i i am not
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satisfied on the nord stream pipeline thing yet i i i i would like i i i would like an investigation
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on that and it it won't happen because if we did indeed do it that's world war three i mean if if russia
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did that to us wouldn't that be something we would declare war on now i have to tell you
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uh for me it's not fighting a war over if if our administration did this that's impeachable that
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is treason you don't do this you don't go around congress and do something like this and i hope to
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god we didn't but you know we we all look at well putin's not crazy enough were we crazy enough to do
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what we just did because if if we are crazy enough to blow up the nord stream pipeline
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that is an act of war and to do it without anyone even in congress knowing about it i i got i got
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news for you he's crazy enough to detonate a nuke again you're calling for an investigation to find
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out if this was done by who it was done by well name the countries it could do it still well everyone
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pointed to russia initially which never really made sense to doesn't make sense to me china could do it
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but china there i mean that doesn't make sense they'd be on the other side of of uh of russia
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and they're cozying up to russia right they don't want to do that no uh you have france france does
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not have the spine and if their people found out and while they were freezing to death that they were
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the ones that i mean that would just be horrible uh england has the capability but england has the same
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story as france and england's not going to do it i mean why would england do it i mean even if they
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did do it it's it's basically our ally doing it anyway and they would have to ask us right i mean
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they probably they don't have to ask us of course as a sovereign because i doubt we asked any of them
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right and but they would probably consult with us on something like that it doesn't make any sense i
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mean the only thing that if you want to stretch a little bit the only thing that kind of potentially
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could make sense from the russia standpoint is perhaps a faction of the russian military that
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believes putin is too soft now this is this does this faction definitely exists right they they're
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they're saying wait a minute the united states is supplying arms to these guys they are our enemy
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we're already at war admit it and they also were the the people who are saying you know we are too
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tied economically to these other countries and we can't do the right thing in ukraine by going
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after them because of these pipelines and and we're worried about europe and and how they're
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going to react because that we have these ties to them for gas and all this and that was going
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on before this war so i mean in theory could a a faction of the military or some part of their
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military and intelligence complex thing yeah so we need to end this so there's no more ties here and
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we can fight this like what we're supposed to why would maybe why wouldn't the investigate i mean it's
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it's interesting to me that uh all the investigators from the west they've all been like uh yeah uh
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we should just forget about it no i mean we've been down there we looked at it we should just forget
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about it now no i mean if it was a it was a russians and there was any evidence at all they would have
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said that if there's any evidence at all they wouldn't say it was us yeah they say i mean they
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do seem to point to russia but they don't provide any real reason and they don't provide that sort of
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you know because there's not a real reason why would russia want to do that like if their if their plan was
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uh to just go to war with europe right they would could just go to war with europe right like that
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there's no reason to to break off the income in the middle of at the worst part of of a financial
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crisis caused by this war right like the last thing they're going to want to do is cut off their short
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term access to to the gas business now i guess this was the second secondary pipeline so it was
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the one that wasn't really operational yet but still why close that door it doesn't make any sense
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you know it's it's a bizarre it's a bizarre theory why would russia blow up their own access to a
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bunch of money like doesn't have we looked at the rebel alliance because like you said it wasn't
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fully operational yeah so they tend to do it right before it comes online um it is valentine's day
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which i absolutely hate i hate it why do you have some plans tonight i mean yes we do have plans nice
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but i hate it so are you is this going to be the discussion while you're out shut up a little bit
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of a hey not happy i'm here not happy to see you my my wife gave me a card today it was so sweet
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and uh i get up in the morning and it's sitting by my sink and hers is
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not sitting by the sink it's uh i i put it at the store but anyway uh so i wish you can do something
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today and go out and get it well i'm gonna pick it up oh you're gonna pick it up i thought i might
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pick it up you should give her the opportunity yeah pick it up yeah okay you're right good idea it's a
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surprise go in and see which one you think i left there for you uh they'll charge you if you got the
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wrong one so anyway um just a quick you know valentine's tip here this comes from a harvard trained
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psychologist that works with couples and they they wanted to show that these are some of the phrases
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that might show that your marriage or relationship is in trouble okay so remember this is harvard okay
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okay so i mean we're we're looking i mean we're gonna go deep here yeah i want to know what all
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right uh the first phrase that if you notice any of these phrases coming from you or your partner
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your relationship may be in trouble uh the first phrase uh that apparently they don't want to say
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is you don't deserve me really they said it could could also actually written on the valentine's day
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card i got for my wife well that's weird because the one i picked out said you're lucky that i even put
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up with you which is you know still the same phrase they wanted you to know if you hear any of those
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you might be in trouble um uh this one uh number two is uh stop asking if i'm okay all right
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everything's fine when it isn't when you hear that now now what would be the issue there i can't think
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of anything uh they say that's just passive aggressive uh and uh then they you know then
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they don't feel open to you know to to share uh okay and uh they can't resolve the conflict although i
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will tell you there's a caveat on this stop asking if i'm okay everything is fine
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sometimes guys really just don't know we have no idea if you're fine or not we just know you've
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stopped talking to us or you you're just going to give us a cold shoulder or just a look sometimes
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that look means nothing sometimes that look means like you've really done something now and i'm so
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angry i want you to apologize and then we're like i don't know what i did and so you're like hey
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sup and then they give you the look you're like okay all right so now i know i've done something
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scanning scanning scanning i don't know what i have no idea what it is honey is something wrong can i i mean
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did i no nothing is wrong okay all right so i'm not sure if that is necessarily uh the same and you
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said sometimes guys don't know what was the can you explain yeah there's i should take out the
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caveat sometimes guys don't not guys just don't know that we have no idea so if you're if someone's
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asking usually that's probably a good sign that they actually care enough to ask yeah at least you're
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over that hump are you okay please don't chop our heads off we have no idea no yeah we have no
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idea okay uh number three is if if you say this to your spouse your marriage may be in trouble or
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your relationship you're pathetic okay now this is from a harvard study okay if their name is actually
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pathetic then i don't know i don't know but they say this is name calling and it simplifies saying name
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calling yeah right right i'm saying if it's her name right her name is pathetic god-given name right
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okay um this one this one again it has to come from a phd because you'd never see this so far it's
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pretty advanced uh analysis uh the fourth phrase that you just don't want to say or hear in your
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relationship is i hate you shut up it's not i hate i hate you i hate you number four i hate you
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uh because wow do we pay for the study we had to pay for the study it over generalizes momentary
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feelings and creates insecurity even in the good moments because your partner may think do they
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really love me right now when they said i hate you last week the good what good moments are you
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saying good moments so you have a bad moment where you say i hate you and then there's a good moment
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you're like i love you and you're like you just said you hated me wait a minute you're wait a minute
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your breakdown of the situation is inconsistent that's that's wait do you get back to the i love
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you thing after the i hate you thing i think the i hate you thing kind of winds it up doesn't it
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i i mean i i kind of see that as a red flare really yeah okay she says i hate you do you go to harvard
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uh no i yale okay uh five uh you're a bad parent
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who says these things uh i don't i don't i don't know you're a bad parent a bad parent but like these
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all of the or at least most of these seem like immediate relationship enders if you say them
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once right so they say this is what you're supposed to do for a good relationship use i statements say
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thank you and take responsibility so now i'm not a i'm not a phd but i am a doctor in the humanities and
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this is oh for the love of all humanity say these things okay use i statements say thank you take
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responsibility use i statements yeah so so it would be like oh thank you for saying that um i've been
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looking to take responsibility of my own life and you've just reminded me i hate you oh it's a nice
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statement yeah i hate you that's good and apparently it'll be fixed it'll be fixed happy valentine's day
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everybody oh you know it's really sad is there people probably in this audience that are like
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wow don't say i hate you or my wife's been saying she hates me now for years are we really in trouble
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i want to welcome in uh a resident caitlin uh schwartz walter she is the von schwartz doberman
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kennel owner uh and has been forced to evacuate but you were there for the first couple of days
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were you not caitlin hi glenn uh yes i was so um the derailment occurred on friday evening
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and um we were there from friday evening until sunday evening at 8 p.m when we were subsequently
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uh evacuated um my home and my business um are both on target road which is the road of the derailment
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we have 27 acres and from driveway to derailment is 1.2 miles and from the edge of the property
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uh to the derailment is less than a half a mile and the railroad tracks actually butt up to the
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back of the property by 10 feet holy cow so when you had the dogs in the kennel everything was fine
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until they set this on fire right i wouldn't say fine um to be honest with you uh the area looks
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like a war zone it looks like i would assume ukraine to look like there's military tankers every half
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mile there's police personnel blockading roads um it's it's beyond anything imaginable and and it's so
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so you when you are evacuated you take you immediately take all of the the dogs out but
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then um you have horses too don't you correct so on sunday evening uh with the help of uh bearded
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brothers moving group which is a is a local moving group in ohio they came with their moving trucks we
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evacuated 30 dogs between 8 p.m and 6 a.m the next morning um they were able to transport all of the the
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cages and kennels uh and i had my own vehicles to to make multiple trips to transport the dog
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we had them all evacuated to a private residence by the next morning um you know it's it's less than
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an ideal situation but it's all we have you know in this time you know the the home is not fenced uh
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the dogs do have to live in in cages because you know there's there's not an appropriate setup i mean
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what kind of appropriate setup can you make in one evening um so we evacuated the dogs uh between
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sunday night and monday morning the uh original time of the controlled detonation was supposed to
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be 12 in the afternoon on monday at 11 o'clock we were evacuating horses i own one horse and my neighbor
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has uh eight other horses across the street my my horse is only six months old she's a baby
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um and we had to load these horses onto trailers they were all upset from the noises and the banging
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and uh you know just emergency personnel flying up and down the road uh it was we had we had a terrible
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time trying to get them loaded onto trailers and evacuated and believe it or not our our local police
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department specifically uh officer frederick he actually came into the horse pastures with us and
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helped us move the horses out you know because all we knew that you know the controlled detonation was
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happening at noon and you know obviously there was a chance of a catastrophic failure prior to that
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um so we were all just kind of you know wishing and hoping for the best and and trying to get these
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animals to safety and and we did and the controlled detonation didn't end up happening until i believe
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about 4 38 on monday uh and then kind of all all hell broke loose so tell me tell me now what happened
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after the um explosion because they've they've just come out the epa has come out and said oh it's it's
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fine but there were were there some people that stayed or they left their animals um yeah unfortunately
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some people had to leave their animals um because they didn't have a place to evacuate that was
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you know animal friendly um some people left the animals and unfortunately some of those animals have
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have have died um you know there are stories of a woman with chickens i have spoken with her personally
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anytime there's any kind of animal death of course because i'm so close i i do a little more digging and
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i've actually personally spoken to these people who have had herds of chickens die who've had domestic foxes
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die um i have a personal friend whose whose family member's dog went out into the yard and never came back
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inside a two-year-old healthy dog um my personal dogs just from the two days that that they were
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there and exposed to just you know the fire fumes and and whatnot whatever was you know in the air
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prior to the detonation i had four dogs needing to have emergency veterinarian services because they were
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projectile vomiting um very lethargic so you know i can't even imagine what it would be like
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for a human or an animal to be there uh during the controlled detonation or being there now um
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i can't imagine we've had to go back a couple of times for supplies because you know i i had to move
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an entire business in one evening as well as my own personal thing and um uh we've had to go back and
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going back is extremely uncomfortable it is you know there's physical symptoms each and every time
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we go from you know itchy burning watery eyes itchy burny throat um coughing uh it was a weird sensation
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of like your eyes pulsating it almost felt like your eyes had a heartbeat um our skin was so dry
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uh that even you know your general moisturizers that you put on you know after a shower have still
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not uh resolved the problem um so i can't imagine being back there now uh our plan is to most likely
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not go back ever um so we're just trying to fund all these things and trying to to just figure out
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where life has to go from here so what is it like on the ground today because there's i mean this detonation
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you know happened a week ago sunday and the epa is saying oh you can go back in and some people are
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um but as you said they're you know they're experiencing difficulties yeah so i was there
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yesterday um i was continuing to grab some more kennels for the dogs to make the situation here a little bit
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better and i you know we couldn't stand to be there for more than 30 minutes so i don't i don't know how
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people are doing it what i know is still as of yesterday it it it doesn't look like our normal
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town of east palestine in darlington pennsylvania it looks like something out of a movie like the you
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know it's it's it's empty um i think the media is not uh appropriately displaying the fact that people
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aren't going back you know some people who didn't have the financial means to stay away any longer came
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back but i think anybody who had an option did not go back geez okay so um they're they're now worried
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that all of this stuff is seeping into the water supply and i know pennsylvania has just closed down
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one of the the plants but the epa um said they had screened 291 homes near the crash site it has not
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detected any levels of uh vinyl chloride or hydrogen chloride um and they said they still have to
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screen but it's uh it's safe and they're not uh finding anything in the water do you believe that
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my my understanding is that you know i have talked with some chemical engineers and environmental services
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and essentially it's not supposed to be in the water just yet from my understanding um the vinyl chloride is
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is is like water and it travels through the ground and the soil like water um so you know being you
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know a mile 1.2 miles away like we are other locations within a mile it takes time for this
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stuff to try the ground we've not had much rain um i think in the last seven days we've had one day of a
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little bit of rain um they're saying that right now they're not surprised if it tests okay but in four or
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five six months from now you know these levels could be astronomic and and that is the that is the
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concern that is my concern that is others concerned not to mention the fact that physically being there
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is uncomfortable and yeah i mean you have 20 what did you say 26 27 acres this is farm this is farmland
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what are people going to do i mean you're not going to be able to sell this land
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that's that's i mean that's kind of why we're in a rock and a hard place right now you know i have
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a 7 500 square foot facility i have a beautiful home i have other buildings that i've built on the
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property as well so i have a great investment into this property that now went from you know x amount
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of dollars to maybe being able to sell it for a fraction of what it's worth maybe i mean who in
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their right mind would buy something um something on taggart road right now i i couldn't imagine
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um so you know now we're faced with the issue of um little to no help from anybody um and we're
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faced with the issue of having to potentially own two large properties you know and and you know funding
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and and the ability to own two pieces of land and two buildings and two facilities and pay
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you know two taxes i mean it's it's it's going to be nearly impossible for a small business
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so caitlin hold on for one minute and when i come back i i want to ask you what we can do to help
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um i mean i know our audience uh well enough to know and uh we just we want to help you're we're
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looking at now uh you know if you want to use that land again i think you're going to have to
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i think you're going to have to dig up and take quite a bit off the top soil um not an expert in
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this obviously but that's what i'm i'm seeing today environmental protection agency is like yeah
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don't don't worry i don't believe them um do you can i ask you that do you believe them caitlin
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so i can i i can't comment on that but what i can comment on is that we were told um by norfolk
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personnel that the the agencies that were coming to our homes to test were from independent laboratories
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now what i can tell you firsthand is that we had a gentleman from ctec which is the you know so-called
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independent laboratory he was sitting in our driveway from the night of the derailment and we
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had spoken to him you know just very informally and he said that and i quote uh we follow around
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the railroad when they make mistakes and they are happy to have us here um and when you know ctec came
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to our facility to test our air they had not offered the services of water at that point in time
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uh they handed me a contract that essentially said that i needed to hold norfolk their affiliates
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not limited to but including ctec uh harmless of any future you didn't sign it in terms of oh of
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course not good um but unfortunately 340 other residents did sign it and and that's where my heart
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just breaks for these people because we don't know the long-term repercussions of what these chemicals can do
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in our air to our environments to our homes to our businesses and they've signed their rights away
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in the hopes that they're getting help and the right answers from these organizations and
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what i can tell you firsthand is that ctec the affiliate of norfolk that came to test the air
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was followed by the epa and what i can tell you is that we said can the epa by themselves come into our
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panel we do not sign this paper and can they test themselves because they're a government
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organization that has the ability they had the testing equipment with them and the answer was
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absolutely not why i can't tell you why i just i i i don't know um so what how could we help you
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it sounds like if you could get some independent testing that might be uh a help but how could we help
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you i think that's the thing the thing is is that people who uh have have the means to stay away and
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stay evacuated are are wanting this independent testing done now i've reached out to three different
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independent laboratories um and they've actually reached out to me as well uh core atlas and acron i
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think if i say that correctly and their services they want retainers between fifteen and fifty thousand
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thousand dollars to do these independent testings of the land or of the air soil and water now they
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do a whole reconnaissance of the property and the topography and it's it's a very you know intense
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procedure and protocol and i mean i think that the ways to help imminently would be to help fund
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these you know landowners and or people who have stayed evacuated and are demanding these private
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testing you know to fund essentially help us fund the the private testing because many people can't
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afford fifteen to fifty thousand dollars up front especially you know i spoke with a gentleman at
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core environmental services this morning and i said you know these um uh these chemical engineers and and
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people making intelligent and professional um uh consensus are saying that this could be six to eight
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months to a year from now where we're going to see answers so if we're having to pay these kinds of
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retainers up front and have to pay them again maybe in six months again in a year it's just not feasible
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welcome welcome to the glenbeck program you know i just want to point out that
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that with every passing day this job which used to make some sense makes no sense whatsoever anymore
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every day we're slowly being boiled slowly being boiled and we don't notice things like
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stew just said what are the percentages though that you know aliens really are responsible this is how
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they do it right they'd roll it out oh it's a balloon yeah we found a couple balloons lots of
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balloons this is yeah hey no big deal just shot we're just firing 500 000 missiles at balloons i
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think these these balloons are the performers from rihanna that just kind of floated away oh no
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yeah people who floated away yeah yeah yeah i think that's a possible possibility um could i show
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you uh one thing and then we'll go back to politics here in a second but uh i want to show you something
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that uh people recorded and uh it was recorded by the subaru asai star camera in hawaii and it was
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japanese operated telescope big island and it showed lasers lasers
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okay so this is out in the middle of nowhere there you can see okay see the lasers yeah okay
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they're clearly coming down right i would think so yes they're coming down uh from the sky but not
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necessarily though you don't know for sure it could be going up well either way it would be very bizarre
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yeah they would all have to be pointed as if they're looking like they're coming because they're
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they're sweeping like a like a hand of a clock like a tick tock you know what i mean so it appears
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it's coming from the same place up in the sky or they're all just aimed but that's quite a distance
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okay and so people took this video and the the telescope people took it they're like um
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what's that the telescope people said that what what what exactly uh is that now
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here is the explanation weather balloon no no no they are saying that this is a nasa satellite
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that has lasers aboard that from time to time measure the earth's surface
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now i would think that if it was measuring the earth's surface
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and it's looking for ice water features coral reefs ocean waves snow cover uh forests
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farmland we would have seen that nasa that nasa laser before right because it would be all over
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the place right it'd be like oh they're just upstairs measuring again right right they might make an
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announcement in advance say by the way this is the week we're doing that we're gonna we got our laser
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tools out right okay we just we just want to make sure 16 inches is really 16 inches between the studs
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we're just gonna laser map the earth i haven't seen that before i wanted to bring that up and ask
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you if you've seen i have never never never heard of that i've never heard of that yeah i thought you
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know they is it possible that they uh that it's true sure oh yeah but it's very yeah very odd and
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i've never seen anything like that before that's incredible now let me ask you how many times
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well i was going to say a week a day do you find yourself saying no i've never heard of that before
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i've never seen anything like that before uh many many times per day like a disturbing amount of times
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right but i want the audience to know because i don't want you to panic that this is a man who
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claimed that there were no gas jets on the top of the space needle for years decades even are you
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claiming that these lasers were caused by the space needle is that your case i would not be surprised
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no the space needle is actually supposed to look like a spaceship you know it was for the 62 worlds
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fair so it's like a big spaceship kind of thing up there and uh i think that's maybe where the
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lasers came from giant balloons that look like balloons but they're actually spaceships so the
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way the flame would be on the top of the point i don't know i don't know okay i don't know all the
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facts about the space needle oh we just heard it on record can you pull that audio i don't know all
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the facts about the space needle interesting admission 20 years later oh man i will know it now tomorrow
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i'll know them all it's like the fact that i've sent you on this uh yeah 20 years uh journey uh
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journey okay so could we just go back to that list and talk about the things do you agree or disagree
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that it is likely if not most likely we will have a change in currency
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wow um you're saying the the digital dollar yeah they just announced it last week difference to me i
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look at that as different than a change in currency like i think they will say that they will essentially
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make the case that's an additive right like a wonderful benefit a new thing you can try anything
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you can use uh-huh um but okay i don't think of that as a change okay so you think we'll still have
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the green back but we will okay okay do you believe that there's it's likely if not most likely that we
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will be in war by 2024 i really hope that's not the case i think the uh because i have not put a
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percentage on it in my head to me the issue here is if you're at five percent chance of war with
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russia you're talking about such a a terrible outcome catastrophic that it should be your
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number one priority to make sure that doesn't occur sure um i don't think they're doing that
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no it does not seem like they're interested in that seems like they might be going the other way
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but that's just from my perspective no i think your perspective is accurate and i'm a guy who hasn't
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ever seen the laser measuring of the world before that's just obviously what do i know i'm a shut
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in if you're talking about is it over 50 i think i would say no to that i think i would say no that
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we're at war with russia but i mean i'm not i the fact that i'm not saying it's zero or point one percent
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is is very scary to me uh uh and china we're we're just at a cold war with china by that time yeah i
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i mean you're talking about active shooting wars right like i i would make the argument right now
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we're we're in a cold in a cold war yeah okay honestly so yeah absolutely with both of them uh
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now real quick economy doing well and we probably not probably not yeah it doesn't seem so inflation
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numbers out of these people are are able to give people a sense of okay this guy's an adult he's
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going to handle it this guy is going to handle it okay um i mean i think that would be the case of
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nikki haley right i mean someone who has foreign affairs experience someone who has uh you know
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executive experience as well does she have experience like like somebody has to have experience with
00:37:12.320
the economy as well this would be the case i think yeah and haley ran a state i mean you know yeah
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what i'm saying so yeah pompeo i think would get would get you to that first one i think that would
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be a case he would make that he has that expertise i think pence would make that case pence says um
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both i'm again remember every one of these polls he's still he's the third number three guy in the
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polls because everybody knows his name everybody knows his name that's a big part of the battle it's a
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big part of the battle but if you want a campaign that has the turnout that looks like a
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joe biden covid campaign he would go with mike pence i just don't see i don't know how you
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navigate it i mean his case is clearly everything you liked about the trump administration without
00:37:53.120
the january 6th he didn't like that's essentially his that's essentially but i'm not convinced that
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that pence was really in the room on you know let's just do it let's go bold and big let's do it
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no i think that's true and i think the things that he would argue are his strong points from
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the pence perspective is hey like i'm gonna do all this without the tweeting right like that's
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his case i'm gonna do all this without tweeting without the crazy rallies i don't think i like i
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don't think it's gonna work but because i think the people who really really there's a there's a
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section of people who liked the trump policies but you know trump he was a vessel to get you to
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a good supreme court right like there's there's a lot of those people out there if you're super
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passionate about trump he's already running you don't need a guy who wasn't trump to be your trump
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it's only the appeal for for pence is only like if you really love trump but only didn't like the
00:38:48.480
fact that he tweeted a lot no i think that's a huge i think that's the case for de santis
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i think de santis is more likely to be tough as nails like trump was yeah than pants and i think and
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and he's already got the but i don't do the crazy tweets yes and i think too the de santis case is
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more broad than pence i i think it pence is so closely tied to trump you you have to be in love
00:39:14.720
with the trump administration right to want pence but then also if you trump has told you he basically
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hates mike pence right so what where where's let's get so there's a schizophrenic trump supporter yeah
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that is like i really really love pence and i really really love donald trump except for the one
00:39:33.680
thing he said about pants that's not it doesn't it's there's just no road there to me um the the road
00:39:39.600
you might find there honestly is pence thinking he wants someone else to be president that's not donald
00:39:45.760
trump and thinking if he can pull eight to ten percent in these early primaries away from trump
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it might help someone like de santis or somebody else beat trump i can see that being his actual uh
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his actual idea if he goes through with this which is not confirmed yet by the way well they're very
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good i mean you know the the the gop is absolutely not above doing to trump what they did to hillary
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clinton where just cobble everybody together and say everybody just come out and be for this one
00:40:16.480
person you know what i mean yeah that could very well happen otherwise other names on this list
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obviously this is essentially bolton's entire case which i will take this seriously and i will be i will
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be the guy you know you want on national security you have um also both i would say rubio holly and tom
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cotton have versions of this argument you know both of them all three of them have been active in this
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area uh that's about it i mean that's a bunch of people but i don't think with serious a serious
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chance and obviously i would i should also mention donald trump would be a guy who would be who would
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say i was able to shut these things down when i was president and i had a good record on the economy i
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mean this is going to be central to his argument donald trump only has is the only one that has the
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credibility to say yep i did that to the economy after they said the economy could never grow and i
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did that to the economy and i stopped all those wars yeah he's the only one that has the credibility
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however he's also the only one that has been smeared for you know 10 years now and made into a horrible
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monster i'm not sure if you can get the swing vote for donald trump now just because of what the press
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is done to him yeah and i think like look donald trump is such he's elevated a thousand levels
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above celebrity president at this point he is just an argument in and of himself his name is an argument
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and so like it's i don't think donald trump wins or loses the presidency right now based on policy
00:41:52.800
and i don't like that i don't like that's where america is but like i think right now that it's going to
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come down to him as a brand whether you like him or you don't like him and that's really what is
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going to be the decision on that whether the republicans say i want that or not let me just
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end this uh this uh section of the program here with the way we started this section of the program
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have you ever seen this before sure chinese authority chinese authorities have uh now announced
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that they saw and have spotted a ufo they were preparing to shoot the object down but they are
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urging fishermen in the vicinity just to be safe
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so we so we now have now have the chinese going i was seeing a flying it could be i don't know if
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they're measuring the earth or what you ever heard that before no yeah no no no you're not