The Glenn Beck Program - May 22, 2025


Best of the Program | Guest: Kelsey Grammar | 5⧸22⧸25


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

158.83461

Word Count

8,512

Sentence Count

674

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

14


Summary

On today's program, we talk about South Africa and what happened in the Oval, and how a lot of this stuff is connected and connected directly to a media you can't trust. Also, why is the left seemingly ramping up all of their anti-Semitic attacks? It's a coordinated effort, and we tell you about that and the most incredible interview with Kelsey Grammer.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 On today's program, we talk about South Africa
00:00:32.800 and what happened in the Oval
00:00:34.360 and how a lot of this stuff is connected
00:00:36.360 and connected right directly to a media you can't trust.
00:00:40.620 Also, why is the left seemingly ramping up all their anti-Semitic attacks
00:00:44.620 and all of the attacks,
00:00:46.060 all of the different things we're seeing in the news?
00:00:48.340 It's a coordinated effort, and we tell you about that.
00:00:50.760 And the most incredible interview with Kelsey Grammer
00:00:55.480 all on today's podcast.
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00:02:53.560 All right, let me talk to you here now about the House Republicans.
00:03:10.720 The Republicans have now revealed the final changes to the, you know,
00:03:15.540 one big, beautiful bill.
00:03:17.080 I'm still hearing stuff in my...
00:03:18.420 Thank you, Sarah.
00:03:19.780 One big, beautiful bill.
00:03:21.420 It looks like the tweaks are going to be enough to win the support of the holdouts.
00:03:28.000 Medicare work requirements are moved up.
00:03:31.780 The SALT deal stays, incentives for non-expansion states,
00:03:35.940 faster phase-out of energy tax credits for wind, solar, and battery storage,
00:03:40.460 changes in federal pensions,
00:03:43.100 ditching the federal requirement that firearm suppressors must be registered.
00:03:46.820 There's some good things in here.
00:03:48.300 And it's really going to come down to Congress.
00:03:49.760 If they pass this, there is $1.7 trillion in savings.
00:03:55.680 However, the sticking point is Congress can pass this bill,
00:04:01.200 but then Congress has to go back and enact and say,
00:04:04.500 yes, let's start enacting those things.
00:04:07.900 So just passing the bill does not mean that savings is coming until Congress then acts again to say,
00:04:14.480 yeah, what we said in that bill, we mean, and we're going to start it right now.
00:04:17.740 So that's where it gets a little hairy for most people.
00:04:22.300 Also, the no tax on tips passes the Senate unanimously.
00:04:27.880 Then we have Trump talking about leasing or taking the mortgage giants, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,
00:04:34.840 which I believe is a public nightmare, honestly.
00:04:37.480 You cannot have the government involved in people's mortgages.
00:04:41.120 They do all kinds of tricks.
00:04:42.320 It's one of the things that helped cause the 2008 crash is Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
00:04:47.620 But Trump says they're now healthy and he wants to take them public.
00:04:51.280 So get them off of our books.
00:04:53.640 Let other people take the risk in the private sector.
00:04:56.860 Amen.
00:04:57.120 Now, I watched the president yesterday in the Oval Office, and I got to tell you, this guy's the goat.
00:05:06.120 I want you to think one thing.
00:05:09.840 We have been trying to find out the truth on what's happening in South Africa.
00:05:15.560 Is there a genocide going on?
00:05:17.300 Well, the first thing that I would tell you, we did a report on this in May 2021, somewhere in that.
00:05:25.620 And we had some evidence that there is some sort of genocide, if you will.
00:05:32.080 Let's explain that first.
00:05:33.680 Genocide, to me, is not six million Jews.
00:05:36.720 Genocide is a stated purpose of getting rid of any class, any kind of person, any group of people.
00:05:44.080 That's a genocide.
00:05:44.860 We want to wipe you out.
00:05:46.260 Yesterday, a genocide was furthered in Washington, D.C. when they shot the two Jews on the street.
00:05:54.120 Why is that a genocide?
00:05:55.060 It was only two.
00:05:55.740 Because the people who do it are claiming they want to do it to all Jews.
00:06:01.500 Okay?
00:06:01.900 So I think genocide is kind of a mindset.
00:06:05.760 You genocidal maniac.
00:06:08.320 It's a mindset.
00:06:09.860 It's not a number.
00:06:10.980 All right.
00:06:12.300 So we believe that there is, based on that interpretation, that there is a genocide going on.
00:06:19.380 And I'm going to talk to you next hour about how that, what you're seeing in South Africa is what is coming here.
00:06:25.700 And I don't mean the white thing.
00:06:27.020 I just mean the violence in South Africa is remarkable.
00:06:31.900 So President Trump, because nobody in the media is ever going to say anything about this.
00:06:37.700 They won't cover it.
00:06:39.220 In fact, you are just, you're killed if you try to cover it.
00:06:43.840 But T. Beckett Adams, who used to work for the Blaze years and years ago, he said, you know, I don't know about the, you know, what's happening, whether the claim of genocide is baseless or not.
00:06:56.240 But I do know the people that insisting that it is baseless said the Hunter laptop, the COVID lab leak, the Biden deterioration were baseless claims as well.
00:07:05.100 So grain of salt with those people.
00:07:07.720 Amen.
00:07:09.080 Thank you.
00:07:09.960 That's exactly right.
00:07:11.340 Now, let's, let me show you what the president did.
00:07:15.780 He has the president of South Africa, Ramaphosa, in his office.
00:07:20.860 And he says, you know, I want to show you, you know, let's talk about what's happening to the white farmers.
00:07:25.840 Now, I said this as I was watching this in real time.
00:07:29.300 And I said this last night on the TV show.
00:07:32.760 He makes one mistake.
00:07:34.280 He said, these are grave sites.
00:07:35.720 They're not grave sites.
00:07:36.780 They're not.
00:07:37.220 They're memorials.
00:07:38.380 We see them on the highways.
00:07:40.040 Somebody dies.
00:07:40.740 They put up a little red, a little white cross someplace.
00:07:43.420 And, you know, somebody had a car accident there.
00:07:45.700 So this is just a memorial that they put together to show the world how many farmers, white farmers are being killed.
00:07:53.120 And so here he has the president of South Africa sitting in the office.
00:07:58.120 And he plays this.
00:07:59.620 Watch.
00:07:59.800 These are burial sites right here.
00:08:04.220 Burial sites.
00:08:06.520 Over a thousand.
00:08:08.220 Each one of those white things you see is a cross.
00:08:11.520 And there's approximately a thousand of them.
00:08:16.740 They're all white farmers, the family of white farmers.
00:08:20.940 And those cars aren't driving.
00:08:23.240 They're stopped there to pay respects to their family member who was killed.
00:08:26.840 And it's a terrible site.
00:08:30.640 I've never seen anything like it.
00:08:32.020 Those people are all killed.
00:08:34.220 Have they told you where that is, Mr. President?
00:08:37.320 Okay.
00:08:38.260 No.
00:08:38.680 I'd like to know where that is.
00:08:40.100 So the president is playing, you know, he is short-circuiting the press.
00:08:48.620 You know what?
00:08:49.380 These people say everything is conspiracy theory.
00:08:51.620 I don't know what it is.
00:08:52.320 I have the president here.
00:08:53.220 I'm going to ask him.
00:08:54.100 Why not ask him in front of everybody?
00:08:56.300 And the president says, I'd like to know where that is.
00:08:58.240 Well, come on.
00:08:59.760 I've seen that video before for years.
00:09:02.060 I know that video.
00:09:03.140 You know, you're the president.
00:09:04.680 You've never seen that video before.
00:09:06.680 Maybe.
00:09:07.120 Maybe not.
00:09:07.440 But let me show you another piece of video that the blaze had on last night on Sarah's show.
00:09:16.880 Do you have the video of this is just, these are stones that have names carved in them.
00:09:24.940 And it goes on and on and on.
00:09:27.400 And it looks like the Vietnam War Memorial.
00:09:31.580 Okay.
00:09:31.760 Those are all names of white farmers.
00:09:33.300 If you're watching the blaze, just think the Vietnam War Memorial.
00:09:36.240 Okay.
00:09:37.440 And they put all these names on these walls and they just keep going.
00:09:43.560 So, I mean, that's pretty elaborate.
00:09:46.880 If this is, you know, fake, what they're putting all these fake names on granite.
00:09:52.180 Now, what the press is saying, in fact, if we have, do we have the audio from, I think it's CNN or NPR.
00:09:59.420 Do we have that audio?
00:10:00.180 For people who don't have a historical context, it does potentially appear more literal.
00:10:09.620 It is an inflammatory song, without a doubt.
00:10:13.280 And many in South Africa, even black South Africans, don't think it should be sung in a post-apartheid world, 30 years plus after apartheid.
00:10:21.720 But there are many who grew up under those years of white minority rule who understand the historical context of this song, Kill the Boer, Kill the Farmer, that Julius Malema has made popular again.
00:10:33.640 It sort of fell into disuse.
00:10:35.240 It's not been that commonly sung after the end of apartheid in 1994.
00:10:39.040 But it's brought it back again to reanimate the issue of the majority of land in South Africa still being owned by white farmers.
00:10:48.980 Okay, okay.
00:10:50.120 So that's all they're doing.
00:10:51.880 They're saying kill the boer, which means kill the whites.
00:10:54.460 It hasn't been sung for a long, long time.
00:10:56.660 But I guess it's okay now.
00:10:58.000 I mean, you know what?
00:10:58.880 The Klan, you know, we didn't have giant cross burnings around the country.
00:11:02.820 But they're trying to make an economic point now.
00:11:05.300 So I think it's pretty okay that the Klan is, what are you talking about?
00:11:11.420 That is, that's insane.
00:11:13.820 You know what that is?
00:11:14.960 That's the New York Times covering just like they did with Walter Durante on the Holodomor.
00:11:21.140 There's no actual starvation or deaths from starvation.
00:11:24.780 But there is widespread mortality from disease due to malnutrition.
00:11:30.700 That's the New York Times.
00:11:31.880 The excellent harvest about to be gathered shows that the report of a famine in Russia is an exaggeration or malignant page of the New York Times.
00:11:41.840 How about the Holocaust from 1942?
00:11:47.400 The Chicago Daily Tribune.
00:11:49.780 Ready?
00:11:50.480 British section of the World Jewish Congress estimated today more than a million Jews have been killed or died as a result of ill treatment in countries dominated by Germany.
00:11:58.580 That was the only paragraph about the final solution.
00:12:05.640 That was it.
00:12:07.380 So please, you have a history of missing these things.
00:12:11.560 Now let me give you some perspective on the other side.
00:12:14.700 Again, I don't know how many people have died.
00:12:18.400 And what they're doing is they're saying, well, there's, I mean, there's 19,000 murders or 20,000 murders, you know, every year.
00:12:27.680 Actually, there's 27,000 murders annually in South Africa.
00:12:33.860 Okay?
00:12:34.640 Annual murders, 27,000.
00:12:38.240 The annual murders, just to give you some perspective, they have a population of 63 million people.
00:12:45.520 The annual murder rate for our country, a country with 350 million people, is 19,252.
00:12:56.880 So, I don't know.
00:12:59.500 There seems to be a bad murder problem happening in South Africa.
00:13:03.680 I don't know how the president even calls this a country.
00:13:07.640 You don't have a government if you have 90, or sorry, 27,000 murders every year with a population of 63 million.
00:13:16.820 We think our murder population is out of control.
00:13:19.160 We think we've got problems with crime and murder.
00:13:22.200 We have 19,000.
00:13:23.720 They have 27,000.
00:13:26.880 So, they don't, they barely even have a country.
00:13:29.800 Now, the press is saying, well, only 2,000 of those were the white farmers.
00:13:34.620 Oh, okay.
00:13:36.180 All right.
00:13:37.000 Stu, could you quick ask AI or just look it up yourself, if you don't know it already, how many people were lynched in America?
00:13:46.880 Over 100 years.
00:13:49.820 How many people were lynched?
00:13:51.700 I think the number is under 5,000.
00:13:54.600 I don't know.
00:13:55.380 Is that a problem?
00:13:56.140 Is that a problem for anybody in the press?
00:14:02.380 Oh, well, there are only 5,000.
00:14:04.060 Let me be crazy.
00:14:05.260 There are only 10,000 people lynched.
00:14:09.220 Oh.
00:14:10.580 Okay, well, then that's not a genocide.
00:14:12.700 That's not a problem there.
00:14:14.880 There are only 2,000 white farmers who were killed and slaughtered.
00:14:19.500 I'm not saying that everybody is engaged in this.
00:14:23.000 I'm saying you have a major political party singing Kill the Whites, okay?
00:14:31.500 In stadiums, singing Kill the Whites.
00:14:34.380 Well, you don't understand the historic perspective.
00:14:37.320 You know what?
00:14:37.680 When somebody tells you they're going to kill you, you take them seriously.
00:14:41.060 You have no choice.
00:14:42.220 Now, let me play something else from the leader of the same party.
00:14:45.000 Here is the leader from the same party.
00:14:48.980 I think this was a year or so ago.
00:14:50.680 Let me look it up.
00:14:53.520 This is...
00:14:55.000 Nope.
00:14:57.180 Nope, this is recent.
00:14:59.220 Here he is, leader of the economic freedom fighters on this particular...
00:15:04.160 Is there a genocide?
00:15:05.020 Are you killing white farmers?
00:15:06.280 Listen to what he says.
00:15:06.860 I don't know what's going to happen in the future.
00:15:09.980 I'm saying to you, we've not called for the killing of white people, at least for now.
00:15:15.400 I can't guarantee the future.
00:15:16.680 Yeah, but, I mean, you'd understand somebody watching that, especially as it gets shared
00:15:21.040 on Twitter, they freak out.
00:15:22.560 It sounds like a genocidal...
00:15:24.300 Ah, cry babies.
00:15:26.220 Cry babies.
00:15:26.700 I'm not calling for the slaughter of white people.
00:15:28.460 At least for now.
00:15:29.700 I can't give you a guarantee of the future.
00:15:32.180 Okay, stop!
00:15:32.620 Do you need to hear any more?
00:15:35.800 I'm not calling for the killing of white people, at least for now.
00:15:39.940 If I got on and said, you know what, I'm not calling for the killing of, you know, Asians,
00:15:46.540 at least not for now, would the press be okay with that?
00:15:51.080 Or would they call me a genocidal maniac?
00:15:54.960 I think we know the answer.
00:15:57.180 And the answer is yes, they would have a problem with it.
00:16:01.560 They'd call me a genocidal maniac, and they would be correct to do that.
00:16:09.540 Do not listen to the press.
00:16:11.400 Do not listen to the press.
00:16:14.480 I can't tell you what the numbers are.
00:16:16.900 I can't tell you how many people are involved in killing whites.
00:16:21.160 I can just tell you there is a major party.
00:16:23.620 Would you accept the Klan?
00:16:25.440 Would America accept the Klan as a major political party that had real political sway that they said they were singing kill the black man?
00:16:38.300 Well, you don't understand.
00:16:39.400 It's an old-timey Klan song from the 1800s.
00:16:42.640 We don't mean it like, you know, like they used to.
00:16:45.280 You just have to understand the historic.
00:16:46.780 We're just making a point.
00:16:48.100 Would they accept that?
00:16:50.700 The answer is no.
00:16:52.240 If they had these big rallies, they were singing the song, and then you went to the head grand wizard or dragon or whatever the hell they are,
00:16:59.080 and the guy said, no, you know what?
00:17:00.520 We are not calling for the killing of black people yet.
00:17:05.540 At least not now.
00:17:08.600 Would the New York Times be okay with that?
00:17:10.880 The answer is no.
00:17:14.000 Racism is a human problem.
00:17:17.740 Here's what's really going on.
00:17:20.340 The reason why they're not saying anything is because those who are calling for the killings of whites are what?
00:17:27.100 They are Marxist, and they are all into the ESG, DEI, anti-racist bullcrap.
00:17:37.900 America, you want to see your future?
00:17:38.960 You're seeing it right now in South Africa, and that should be a frightening thing for non-whites because, remember,
00:17:49.200 there's about 2,000 whites that are farmers that are killed by these radicals,
00:17:54.280 but the government, with all of their great socialist stuff, they have 27,000 murders a year for 63 million people.
00:18:04.120 Just a reminder again, we have 19,252 murders in the year 2023, the latest one, and that is 350 million people.
00:18:15.460 Do not listen to the press.
00:18:18.200 Well-lit parking lot, right in the middle of the afternoon, you don't think twice about walking through it, but somebody is waiting there for you.
00:18:27.100 Somebody's waiting there, out there, hidden among the cars.
00:18:29.580 When he comes for you, he comes fast.
00:18:31.540 Instinctively, you reach into your bag, you pull out your burner launcher, looks like a handgun, that should stop him, but it's not.
00:18:38.920 It fires non-lethal rounds filled with pepper or tear gas, hits the man hard enough to stop him in his tracks.
00:18:45.600 In fact, he literally crumples to the ground, whimpering, clawing at his eyes because it's tear gas.
00:18:51.520 You only had to be within six feet.
00:18:53.220 You don't have to be accurate.
00:18:54.420 You don't have to hit him in the chest.
00:18:55.440 You just have to be within six feet.
00:18:58.420 Anything within six feet when that thing hits, they're down on the ground, okay?
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00:19:05.420 The guy is going to be put into a lot of pain for a long while, and he's probably not going to like jail too much either.
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00:19:42.300 Let me start here before I get into what I think is coming, and this is a good indication of it.
00:19:48.720 And last night at the Israeli embassy, two staff members, they're called diplomats because they were probably on a diplomatic passport.
00:19:56.120 They worked at the embassy, but these are just two young kids, you know, in their 20s.
00:20:02.240 They were walking out of an event that happened to be at the Capital Jewish Museum in Washington, D.C., and a 30-year-old guy, we now know is Elias Rodriguez.
00:20:22.020 He's from Chicago.
00:20:24.720 He decided that he was going to kill himself some Jews, and so he stood in waiting with a gun, and he gunned these two kids down in cold blood.
00:20:38.620 They caught him.
00:20:40.280 They confiscated the gun.
00:20:42.660 I hope he, I mean, if we had the death penalty, I hope he would get the death penalty, but we don't do that anymore, and he's going to be tried most likely in Washington, D.C., so God only knows what happens to him.
00:20:51.720 But this is a couple that he had just this week, unbeknownst to her, got out and bought an engagement ring here in America, was going to bring it back home in his pocket to Israel, and when they got back to Israel next week, he was going to propose.
00:21:12.240 Their whole life, any children they would have had, gone.
00:21:18.020 Now, let me tell you who this guy is.
00:21:24.460 We now know that this guy was part of a Marxist pro-Hamas organization.
00:21:37.300 It's Marxist-Communist.
00:21:39.720 These are the people our schools are churning out.
00:21:42.720 This is, ends justify the means.
00:21:50.300 These are the same people that are, you know, the same people that are now helping these judges and pushing these judges and protesting in the streets and causing all kinds of havoc because they think that they should stand up for the rights of murderers and everybody else to stay here in our country.
00:22:10.000 Then you have people like the governor of Minnesota saying that ICE is Trump's modern-day Gestapo.
00:22:18.460 Everything is being ratcheted up.
00:22:21.640 Everything is, I mean, you have, you have Fang Fang's boyfriend saying that they've arrested MacGyver, a congresswoman who was assaulting a police officer, trying to storm the gates of a secure facility for ICE.
00:22:42.200 All she had to do, if she wanted oversight, was call them and they would have let her in.
00:22:46.400 But they instead, a mayor who wants to be governor of New Jersey, he, you know, they came with a bunch of protesters.
00:22:54.400 They protested from the gate.
00:22:55.560 Well, as soon as they opened the gate to let a bus in, the protesters, this congresswoman and the mayor, they all surged at the gate.
00:23:04.820 ICE did their best to stop them.
00:23:06.340 They were assaulted, yada, yada, yada.
00:23:09.660 And now, you know, Nancy Mace just introduced a bill in Congress that said she should be removed from Congress.
00:23:16.600 I think she should.
00:23:17.480 I don't think Congress will do it.
00:23:18.560 That's how sad things are.
00:23:20.080 She should be removed from Congress.
00:23:22.580 You know, she's assaulting police officers.
00:23:24.880 DOJ is now going to prosecute her after the investigation for that.
00:23:29.760 Why would, why, last night on TV, I asked the question, why would the Democrats be going this way?
00:23:37.400 Why would they be standing up for murderers?
00:23:39.720 Why would they be standing up for Hamas?
00:23:42.220 Why would they, why would they be ratcheting up?
00:23:45.260 It's not the way to win an election.
00:23:47.560 You're not going to win on that.
00:23:49.340 America's not going to embrace that.
00:23:51.800 I believe that may not be the, the plan.
00:23:59.760 You know, revolution and direct action stuff, that's what they're trained to do.
00:24:05.680 It's the highest calling of the left.
00:24:07.800 And this isn't about politics.
00:24:09.500 This is about a Marxist worldview that has been baked into the minds of several generations of Americans through our university classrooms now.
00:24:18.120 I could give you the, the history of it, but I mean, it starts with John Dewey and then it goes to a guy named Paolo.
00:24:26.500 I think his name is Freire.
00:24:27.580 Freire and Freire, he wrote a book called The Pedagogy of the Oppressed.
00:24:32.940 And that is the sacred text for the left and the educational revolution.
00:24:37.700 You want to know what happened to our education?
00:24:40.520 Pedagogy of the, of the oppressed.
00:24:42.800 Read it.
00:24:44.420 He didn't see schools as a place for learning math or history.
00:24:47.280 He saw them as battlegrounds for social action.
00:24:49.720 All across the U.S., his critical pedagogy is still the dominant theory in teacher education programs today.
00:24:56.500 So they are churning out radicals.
00:24:59.180 And his big idea was, see if this sounds familiar, the world is divided into oppressors and the oppressed.
00:25:05.380 So the classroom is where you train students to see everything through that lens.
00:25:11.500 You're either the oppressor or the oppressed.
00:25:14.380 This is critical race theory, gender ideology, DEI, every other oppressed versus oppressor framework that's taken over our corporations and our campuses comes from this.
00:25:25.700 The wake of the Hamas attack in Israel, October 7th, 23, Jonathan Haidt, one of the brilliant minds of our day, he wrote an article called Why Anti-Semitism Sprouted So Quickly on Campus.
00:25:43.820 He says the students have learned now a new morality.
00:25:47.340 Let me read this to you.
00:25:48.180 To view everyone as either a oppressor or a victim, students were taught to use identity as the primary lens through which everything is to be understood, not in their coursework, but in their personal and political lives.
00:26:01.100 When students are taught to use a single lens for everything, their education is harming them rather than improving their ability to think critically.
00:26:09.140 This is the new morality.
00:26:11.020 This is what has driven our universities off a cliff, and it's about to run our country off a cliff if more people don't wake up, because this is what fuels the direct action in the streets.
00:26:24.040 Now, I said last hour, and I said last night on TV, that I think, I don't know if it's going to be this summer, but we are headed for real, you know, BLM riots all across America on multiple fronts.
00:26:41.300 It's coming.
00:26:42.100 It's just coming.
00:26:43.220 And it's coming from, I mean, we've seen the political violence from the left, no matter what the mainstream media wants to tell you.
00:26:49.040 Oh, no, that's, you know, we're worried about the white man and the extremists.
00:26:52.600 Well, you know what?
00:26:53.360 I'm worried about everybody right now, quite honestly, but one side really has a track record, and I don't have to go back in the time machine to see it.
00:27:01.500 Let me just give you a few.
00:27:02.920 This is just off the top, you know, of our heads as we sat around this morning.
00:27:06.220 Ready?
00:27:07.340 Baseball field attack on Republican congressmen in 2017 by a Bernie Sanders supporter that almost killed Representative Steve Scalise.
00:27:15.600 He was out to kill all of the Republicans on the baseball diamond, and we now know that our DOJ covered it up because who was in charge?
00:27:25.480 2020 BLM riots, which caused at least a dozen deaths and an all-time U.S. record of $2 billion in damages.
00:27:35.240 The 2020 Antifa riots in Portland, where the Department of Homeland Security spent $12 million just to protect the federal buildings during weeks-long battle with rioters.
00:27:46.160 At one point, the rioters barricaded federal offices inside a courthouse and tried to set the building on fire.
00:27:52.300 How about the 96 different crisis pregnancy centers that were attacked since the Dobbs decision was overturned, or overturned Roe v. Wade, or the hundreds of Catholic churches that have been vandalized with pro-abortion messages?
00:28:08.380 Or the man who was arrested with weapons, all kinds of stuff, outside Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's house, who claimed he was there to assassinate Kavanaugh because of the Dobbs decision?
00:28:21.000 Then there was the assassination of the UnitedHealthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, last year.
00:28:26.520 The alleged killer held left-wing views, and now the left has lionized him.
00:28:32.180 He's a hero of the left.
00:28:34.120 You don't put that man up as a hero for your movement.
00:28:36.380 You don't make him a hero unless you agree with violence, unless you believe no matter what, ends justify the means.
00:28:47.920 He's now a folk hero.
00:28:50.400 How about the burning of the Tesla dealerships and the cars?
00:28:54.820 Last month, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's official residence was firebombed.
00:28:59.060 The suspect allegedly set the governor's mansion on fire because what?
00:29:02.680 What?
00:29:04.300 Because Shapiro, who is Jewish, what he wants to do to the Palestinian people.
00:29:10.460 Okay, wait a minute.
00:29:11.020 So shooting last night, the fire there.
00:29:13.500 Huh.
00:29:14.060 Then, of course, there was the assassination attempt on Donald Trump's life last year.
00:29:18.940 Somehow, we still don't know the details about the assassin's political views, but seems pretty unlikely that he was a conservative.
00:29:25.760 The pattern is very clear, and what's disturbing about this is it's getting worse after the election.
00:29:38.960 Okay?
00:29:39.140 When these people talk about democracy, what they mean is communist-style people's revolution.
00:29:47.100 And I want to make sure you understand this.
00:29:48.540 I'm not talking about the average Democrat that is your neighbor.
00:29:51.600 I don't believe they believe this stuff.
00:29:52.920 I think they've been duped into believing that, you know, through the hatred of Donald Trump,
00:29:57.660 and they may have legitimate reasons for not liking Donald Trump.
00:30:00.660 Okay?
00:30:01.260 I'm not going to argue with that.
00:30:02.220 You might have legitimate reasons for not liking him, but they have been so indoctrinated by the mainstream media,
00:30:09.380 they've only been given half of the story, and the half that they're giving a lot of times is out-and-out lies.
00:30:16.500 I mean, let's talk about the Biden stuff.
00:30:18.640 Okay?
00:30:20.620 And you've been indoctrinated to hate Donald Trump, which stops you from looking at what your side is actually doing
00:30:27.440 and the coordination of it.
00:30:28.820 And if you think that it's not coordination, well, let me just tell you about the coalition of Democratic governors
00:30:39.860 called Governors Safeguarding Democracy.
00:30:43.260 It is a group that is led by J.B. Pritzker, who is the Illinois governor, and Colorado's governor, Jared Polis.
00:30:51.740 This is a coordinated effort to defy President Trump's immigration policies and to get some heavy hitters calling the shots.
00:31:01.740 One day after Trump's second inauguration, the group held a Zoom meeting led by none other than Norm Eisen.
00:31:10.900 Who is that?
00:31:12.620 He's the former White House ethics czar.
00:31:15.500 So funny.
00:31:16.840 And a special counsel for Trump's first impeachment trial.
00:31:20.240 He is also one of the ringleaders of the current lawsuit campaign.
00:31:25.380 He's laid this whole thing out.
00:31:28.300 Now, their strategy is laid out in a book called Governors Safeguarding Democracy, Firewall for Freedom.
00:31:37.320 Now, it was obtained through FOIA by the Daily Signal.
00:31:43.120 Why isn't anybody saying, thank you, Daily Signal?
00:31:46.160 Why isn't anybody talking about this?
00:31:48.620 Well, we know, because the mainstream media is never going to talk about this.
00:31:52.040 The plan includes model executive orders for governors to use in blocking National Guard deployments if they don't like them
00:32:01.580 and refuse state resources for federal immigration enforcement.
00:32:06.340 One draft order says that states shall provide no time, money, or facilities for National Guard units deployed without the governor's approval.
00:32:15.640 Another directs state agencies to withhold information if they suspect it's being used for immigration actions.
00:32:23.840 So they are plotting for the government.
00:32:28.140 And what exactly are they preparing to obstruct what National Guard deployments?
00:32:34.820 What are you talking about?
00:32:35.780 Is it just that they're going to use legal action?
00:32:41.820 No.
00:32:42.620 Now, remember, Pritzker is one of the guys leading this with Norm Eisen and everybody else.
00:32:47.700 And I want you to listen to what he's saying.
00:32:49.120 He's not talking about the National Guard and he's not talking about lawyers here.
00:32:52.200 Listen to what he said just a couple of weeks ago.
00:32:53.840 Never before in my life have I called for mass protests, for mobilization, for disruption.
00:33:01.080 But I am now.
00:33:02.040 Yeah.
00:33:02.520 These Republicans cannot know a moment of peace.
00:33:22.120 These people cannot know a moment of peace.
00:33:26.260 That is a governor of one of our largest states.
00:33:28.900 This is what happens when the system churns out activists instead of thinkers.
00:33:36.500 Violence is excused as resistance.
00:33:38.780 When governors weaponize their authority to defy the will of the American people.
00:33:44.200 Trump won in a clear 2024 mandate.
00:33:46.800 Everybody knows that.
00:33:47.860 Everybody knows Trump was elected for two things.
00:33:51.680 The economy and immigration.
00:33:56.620 And I don't think in that order.
00:33:57.780 But he won.
00:34:01.000 And the left is obsessed with their oppressor, oppressed worldview.
00:34:04.700 They see only one path and that is fight, disrupt, and resist.
00:34:08.260 We're not talking about just policy disagreements.
00:34:10.580 This is a coordinated effort to destabilize America rooted in decades of Marxist indoctrination.
00:34:18.480 That's what's happening in America.
00:34:20.280 That's what's coming.
00:34:21.180 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:34:25.480 You know, people always say, here's a man who doesn't need an introduction.
00:34:30.020 And then they go on.
00:34:31.600 I'm not going to.
00:34:32.600 Kelsey Grammer is on with us.
00:34:35.080 He has written a new book.
00:34:36.840 And before I bring him on, I just, I want to read what's on the back cover of his book or, you know, the PR people set up.
00:34:44.980 On July 1st, 1975, Kelsey Grammer's younger sister, 18-year-old Karen Grammer, was raped and murdered.
00:34:50.640 In Karen, Kelsey reveals their past, celebrates their youth together, mourns her loss, and unearths his struggle for faith and healing in the decades since her death.
00:34:57.640 That is such bullcrap if you've read the book.
00:35:01.860 That is just, that's a PR person saying, it's almost like chat GPT.
00:35:05.480 Let me, before I bring him on, let me just show you what this book is in his own words in the book.
00:35:10.660 Recounting her history and the events that landmark her story is part of what's going on here.
00:35:14.920 But another part is how she continues in me or how I've imprisoned her with my inability to let her go.
00:35:22.020 That idea haunts me.
00:35:23.840 Recounting her funeral and the events of her death has made me realize how mad I was at myself.
00:35:28.960 How angry that that one thing that I had always done, I didn't do.
00:35:33.220 I felt unmasculated and empty.
00:35:36.060 All my big brother protector BS was just that.
00:35:39.100 No, Karen.
00:35:40.540 Karen, get back to Karen.
00:35:42.560 Okay, it's important to remember the tragedy of her death belongs to her.
00:35:46.840 Not entirely true, perhaps, because, you see, I've often said that to dismiss my own feelings about it.
00:35:52.980 The tragedy belongs to her as if I have no right to view it as my tragedy, but it belongs to me, too.
00:35:58.580 Her death belongs to her.
00:35:59.800 The consequences belong to me and to the men who killed her.
00:36:03.820 And to me, because I couldn't stop them.
00:36:06.140 I didn't stop them.
00:36:08.000 That was my issue with it all, and I felt like I had failed her.
00:36:12.560 Don't read the back cover.
00:36:13.940 Read the book.
00:36:14.980 It's called Karen by Kelsey Grammer.
00:36:17.920 Kelsey, welcome to the program.
00:36:20.220 Thank you, Glenn.
00:36:21.000 Thank you.
00:36:21.500 This is an amazingly powerful book.
00:36:31.780 You want to tell a little bit of the story?
00:36:35.280 Yeah, sure.
00:36:36.280 I deeply appreciate what you just read.
00:36:40.260 What happened, it's 50 years ago, July 1st this year.
00:36:44.560 I have carried it with me for a long, long time, and I probably would have continued to do that.
00:36:50.700 It was sort of having reached a kind of stalemate with the grief and remembrance that always sort of favored the grief part.
00:36:59.380 And I was doing a channeling session with a woman who's kind of a famous medium in some of the circles I travel.
00:37:07.520 And in the midst of the session, she said, oh, wait a minute.
00:37:12.120 Your sister is saying that she wants you to tell her story.
00:37:20.080 And that was kind of a remarkable moment because I've delved into this world a bit, this sort of mediumship world.
00:37:26.380 I produced a show called Medium years ago.
00:37:28.620 And it's meant to be a healing art, I think.
00:37:32.400 But I'd never heard anyone say that.
00:37:36.360 And I suddenly thought, that sounds authentic and real, like Karen really is asking me to do this.
00:37:41.800 And so I sat down about a month later.
00:37:44.900 I waited a while, and I sat down and started to jot down some notes.
00:37:47.940 And about eight or nine pages into it, I suddenly realized I was writing a book about Karen, about my sister, and about the life we'd lived together, and about the life that I'd lived since her time, and the life I've lived with her always in my mind.
00:38:04.180 And so I came up with this book, and this book is part spoken by Karen, part written by my imagination and my recollection.
00:38:15.720 And in a weird way, the writing itself became a kind of a channeling event in my life where things came up in clarity that I'd forgotten, that it was extraordinary.
00:38:27.480 Time just disappeared, and suddenly I was still holding my little sister's hand or taking her up a hill to take a snow ride or a ride on a sled, or we were out on a boat together or sitting in a hammock together.
00:38:41.540 And all these things became sort of the world of the book, and the world that was the world I grew up in with Karen, and then the world, of course, that I was left with when she was gone.
00:38:50.660 We were extremely close.
00:38:52.480 That was probably different than some brother-sister stories, but, you know, there's no one closer to you genetically than your brother or your sister.
00:38:59.420 You're identical, basically.
00:39:01.100 So it was a very important experience.
00:39:07.980 No, go ahead.
00:39:08.640 I'm sorry.
00:39:09.840 No, that was it.
00:39:10.480 That was it.
00:39:14.540 You know, I was taken aback.
00:39:17.380 I wasn't going to go here, but you brought it up, the medium thing.
00:39:20.280 I was taken aback, and it made me think of Harry Houdini.
00:39:24.040 After his mother died, he became obsessed with the other side and trying to reach.
00:39:31.020 And then when he died, he said to his wife, you know, continue to try to find me, and I will say the words, best believe.
00:39:41.240 And she never heard that.
00:39:43.400 But he was obsessed with that.
00:39:45.220 You talk about Christ, you know, an amazing way.
00:39:48.660 If I may quote, I think of Christ.
00:39:51.200 The world gave him so much hate, he gave them so much love.
00:39:54.940 God bless him.
00:39:55.740 God bless Karen.
00:39:56.560 God bless Mom.
00:39:57.460 God bless Evangeline.
00:39:58.680 Gam.
00:39:59.540 My God, even his body distorted in the grimace of inhumane torture.
00:40:03.720 Jesus beseeched, Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.
00:40:07.740 Their hate and their fear killed love.
00:40:09.840 Imagine that.
00:40:10.880 How could that happen?
00:40:12.080 So, you know, that was the one thing that I wondered.
00:40:15.840 I wondered, you know, have you forgiven yourself really yet fully?
00:40:23.080 Because, I mean, you're carrying around guilt that is not yours.
00:40:26.020 And even if it was, you've got to find a way to let it go.
00:40:30.220 And that's the whole point of Christ.
00:40:32.040 Have you found that place yet?
00:40:34.540 Yeah, I mean, it did come, you know, but what's funny about life, you know, from each morning
00:40:41.780 you wake, there may come a fresh spring of self-loathing or regret that will indict you,
00:40:51.140 you know.
00:40:51.500 But, of course, Jesus is there to take it.
00:40:55.600 You know, that's what's amazing.
00:40:57.260 In the book, I do, you know, I have this moment where I was just sitting on a plane, and it
00:41:03.080 was as if, finally, Jesus was sitting beside me saying, this one's mine.
00:41:09.060 You've got to let it go.
00:41:11.980 I'll take it.
00:41:13.380 And, of course, I still resist that because it's like it's sort of, I think, well, no,
00:41:19.500 I'm a man.
00:41:20.280 I can handle this.
00:41:20.900 I can take it.
00:41:21.440 You know, there's just some things, and then Jesus finally said to me, he said, no, I got
00:41:27.740 this.
00:41:28.520 I got this.
00:41:29.340 It's why I came.
00:41:31.480 And that really, that helped me a great deal.
00:41:35.200 And, of course, it's so funny, the mediumship thing.
00:41:37.580 I mean, I'm going to deflect for a second.
00:41:40.020 The mediumship thing is, you know, is reviled by my buddy, Greg Laurie, who, you know, is
00:41:44.640 sort of a fundamental, you know, kind of evangelistic guy.
00:41:48.740 Yeah, yeah.
00:41:49.100 Really enjoyed me.
00:41:49.960 But I always point out to my friends from that particular quarter, that whole book about
00:41:57.080 Revelation, you know, that is channeled.
00:42:00.580 I don't know if they've gotten to come to terms with this, but John sitting in that cave
00:42:05.740 and stuff and all this information he got and talking with Jesus, I mean, I guess it's
00:42:10.920 okay in the Bible, but it's not okay anywhere else.
00:42:12.760 I think this is another sort of arrow in the quiver of God's quiver that you will get
00:42:21.560 information from so many different places.
00:42:24.640 Be careful.
00:42:25.560 Yeah.
00:42:25.760 Because, you know, the stinky one can come along for the ride once in a while and sort
00:42:29.580 of insinuate his way into what you hope is a healing message.
00:42:33.720 But God's clarity is apparent in many places.
00:42:38.380 Let me take you to one of the more incredible parts of the book.
00:42:43.340 I mean, your sister was brutally murdered and raped.
00:42:47.240 And at one point in the book, you get the police report and you see the police report.
00:42:58.300 And I mean, it's deeply disturbing.
00:43:01.840 And you read it cold.
00:43:05.240 If you may, if I may.
00:43:06.820 I've spent more than a month away from writing.
00:43:08.780 Longer pause than I intended.
00:43:10.200 There were some health concerns in the family in a trip abroad.
00:43:12.500 I had reached a crossroads a while back, Jim Bentley with the prosecutor's office in Colorado
00:43:17.880 Springs, sent me a copy of the files on Karen's death, files of the investigation, the murder
00:43:22.600 scene.
00:43:23.160 This is the record.
00:43:24.520 It was sent with a warning.
00:43:26.400 I want to caution you about the details you will learn.
00:43:29.000 If you read all the material I'm sending you, please consider having someone you know
00:43:32.860 and trust to review this information before you decide to read it yourself.
00:43:36.600 There is no way to unring the bell or perhaps have somebody else summarize the
00:43:42.180 information might be an alternative to reading it yourself.
00:43:45.960 But you read it and you don't regret it.
00:43:49.560 Tell me about that moment and that process.
00:43:53.000 Yeah.
00:43:53.560 It occurred to me in that moment that if it was something so painful, why would I make
00:44:02.300 somebody else do it?
00:44:04.480 That one was for me.
00:44:05.940 That was meant for me to do.
00:44:07.360 And of course, then I tried to cushion it.
00:44:10.660 When I revealed some of the facts that I learned in the police report, I tried to make them
00:44:15.560 a little more palatable to people.
00:44:18.280 I described some things that were truly horrible that Karen suffered that night.
00:44:22.960 But that was in order to kind of gain a sense of credibility of a credential of suffering that
00:44:33.220 would other people who have been through similar things would recognize and say to themselves,
00:44:37.880 okay, he's talking about what I know.
00:44:40.500 He's talking from the same place that we've been put in.
00:44:45.220 So that they would be able to say that the advice I give is true.
00:44:54.880 The longing that I've experienced about missing my loved one is the same they've experienced.
00:45:02.280 And so that my words of comfort come from a place they would recognize.
00:45:06.960 You, um, it was, what, what you pulled out of that, if I may, read the police report again
00:45:18.600 now and again, and after two months, I now, I'll find an uneasy comfort in these pages.
00:45:26.020 I've spent so many years playing out these moments in my imagination.
00:45:29.840 Now I know the truth.
00:45:31.700 There's no smidgen of relief.
00:45:33.980 There's only clarity.
00:45:34.880 It is the place, only imaginings of how she must have felt and thought and suffered
00:45:46.880 during those final hours of her life.
00:45:51.360 Is that comfort that you now, you now know everything it's, is it, it's better?
00:45:59.240 That was real.
00:46:01.400 Yeah.
00:46:01.640 That's, that's a real thing for me because I had so much conjecture, you know, and I
00:46:06.220 guess it's, I don't think, I don't think I'm special in this regard.
00:46:10.280 I mean, being an actor, I guess we, we spend a lot of our time coming up with, you know,
00:46:14.620 excuses, reasons, uh, justifications, understandings, things that, um, connect us to the motivation
00:46:21.240 of characters we're playing fantasies, basically.
00:46:23.420 Um, so my mind has always been very fertile that way.
00:46:27.880 So everything that Karen went through, there was another component to it of what I imagined
00:46:33.940 she went through.
00:46:34.800 So there was deep comfort in knowing truth, finally.
00:46:39.080 So many things that I'd supposed were not the truth.
00:46:42.680 And, uh, so the, the comfort I read in the pages was simply that I now had information
00:46:48.480 that was accurate, that would help me keep the men who killed her in jail.
00:46:52.700 Uh, but also it was, it was the end to me coming up with stories that I hadn't thought
00:46:59.660 of there.
00:46:59.960 It was the end of imaginings.
00:47:01.420 It was, it was, so that was a comfort because I had spent so much of my life kind of wrestling
00:47:08.280 with, Oh, I wonder what that was.
00:47:10.300 I wonder if this happened or what she was doing there.
00:47:12.680 And I, by being able to track some of her footsteps and actually going and reliving some of them,
00:47:18.840 I was able to find a way into what Karen was really thinking that night, stuff like that
00:47:24.120 before.
00:47:24.900 Why was she there?
00:47:25.860 Why, why was she sitting behind the restaurant where she'd worked?
00:47:28.580 And I suddenly realized, Oh, she liked company.
00:47:31.080 You know, that was a, that was a huge burden lifted from me about how did she get there?
00:47:36.720 I'd said, she walked there because she thought maybe, you know, I'll go have a drink with
00:47:39.880 a pal.
00:47:40.500 And that, that reduced so much of what I, my anxiety about it to a symbol of remembrance
00:47:46.120 of who Karen was.
00:47:47.160 Karen was great company.
00:47:48.840 She was a wonderful person to spend some time with.
00:47:51.140 And to remember that was more important than, you know, any of the horrors in a weird way.
00:47:57.180 The horrors, but I'd imagine were just as horrible or even what actually happened was worse than
00:48:04.300 I'd imagined in many ways.
00:48:06.240 But to know the truth did set me free, which is, you know, biblical.
00:48:13.360 Yeah.
00:48:14.620 The truth does that.
00:48:16.160 It can make you miserable at first, but it will set you free.
00:48:18.680 Um, uh, you know, uh, can I ask you is some of, I read, uh, a quote from somebody, I don't
00:48:27.300 remember who said it, but they said, you die twice.
00:48:30.680 First, when you stop breathing.
00:48:32.160 And second, when somebody mentions your name for the very last time is that kind of thinking
00:48:38.920 play a role in that great.
00:48:41.120 Uh, did that kind of thing you play a role with you at all in, in holding on to her and
00:48:47.840 speaking her name and making sure she was a part of your life.
00:48:51.620 Yeah.
00:48:52.240 I mean, I'm, I discovered, I discussed it in the book.
00:48:55.260 I mean, the word remember is my favorite word because it is, if you break it off after
00:49:00.180 the R E right and put a little hyphen in there, remembering means you're a member again, you
00:49:05.740 are, you are a member of society and you are brought back to life in every moment that
00:49:11.440 you're remembered.
00:49:12.140 And so that's why I think it's important.
00:49:14.780 And that's why I would just one of the reasons I wrote the book, but, uh, I hadn't thought
00:49:18.320 of that, but what's nice is when people call or, or text me and say, I just finished the
00:49:24.000 book.
00:49:24.260 I know your sister, Karen.
00:49:25.500 Now it's just great to see your name written that way.
00:49:28.160 It's great to hear them say her name as though she's alive today.
00:49:32.140 And that, that makes all the difference.
00:49:37.300 Um, you, you talk about justice, uh, in the book and you're really, I mean, you're very
00:49:42.380 raw.
00:49:42.660 You want to see your, uh, sister's murderers rot in jail.
00:49:46.000 Um, and in fact, I think at one point you say, uh, you know, if I had the opportunity,
00:49:51.220 I would have killed them and I still probably would kill them.
00:49:54.440 Um, and I don't, I don't blame you.
00:49:57.060 I mean, it's really honest and raw, but our culture, um, uh, emphasizes and maybe over
00:50:03.960 emphasizes at times compassion over justice.
00:50:07.580 Um, but both justice and compassion come from God and there's a careful balance in there.
00:50:13.020 Um, how do we balance that?
00:50:16.580 Do you think you found the balance?
00:50:18.640 If I were to, you know, sort of assign where that sentiment has arisen, I think it's because
00:50:26.560 we've kind of lost touch with God as a society in many ways.
00:50:31.120 I think, I think there was a bit of a comeback going on right now, which I'm enjoying and I
00:50:34.720 hope the rest of the country is, um, but, um, government is flawed and of course, you know,
00:50:44.220 judgment within the confines of our government today and then we, and our, in our courts.
00:50:49.580 I mean, of course, you know, that there've been some people who've gone to jail who shouldn't
00:50:53.180 have, but there are those, you know, remarkably sort of landmark cases.
00:50:57.700 There's no question this guy should stay in jail.
00:51:01.700 Um, the, the, the prevalence right now of, um, people saying, well, you know, maybe it's
00:51:08.480 been long enough, that kind of stuff.
00:51:10.120 It's, you know, yes, I, I get that there, that there is a component of what justice and
00:51:14.760 compassion might actually be when they're twinned.
00:51:17.200 But, um, this, this guy is, um, past that beyond that and, and needs to remain in jail.
00:51:25.300 And it's just, we need, we need to have the courage to say, well, yeah, consequences do
00:51:31.100 have, uh, their place in our society.
00:51:33.920 And then the free ride thing, which is what's becoming very popular right now, or the skate
00:51:38.760 aspect of, of, uh, justice is, is not, it's not prudent.
00:51:45.720 Um, Kelsey, I, I mean, just so he doesn't die a second death.
00:51:49.760 I just want to say George went, uh, today, Norm on cheers.
00:51:53.900 He passed away this week.
00:51:55.360 I'd love to talk to you about that, but we're out of time.
00:51:57.580 I've only got about 45 seconds.
00:51:58.900 I would, I would love to talk to you in a longer form at some point, but I just have
00:52:04.060 to tell you, I watched the new Frasier.
00:52:07.520 You have created the funniest character that is so long run now.
00:52:13.960 Um, the characters on your show are so brilliant.
00:52:17.140 Every single one of them in this new version of, of Frasier.
00:52:20.540 Uh, it is the funniest show, the best well-written show on television.
00:52:26.080 And, uh, thank you for all of the laughs that me and my family have watching Frasier over
00:52:31.560 the years from cheers all the way to the latest, but thank you so much for all of the laughs.
00:52:35.980 You're very, thank you.
00:52:37.260 You're great.
00:52:37.660 You're a treasure.
00:52:39.020 Thanks, Kelsey.
00:52:40.020 I appreciate it.
00:52:40.520 I feel the same about it.
00:52:41.580 Thank you.
00:52:42.560 Thanks, man.
00:52:43.480 Kelsey, Kelsey Grammer.
00:52:44.660 Um, if you haven't seen his, um, you haven't seen his show, I don't remember what network
00:52:49.300 it's on now, but it's fantastic.
00:52:51.020 But, uh, you should read if, especially if you've lost somebody, uh, Karen, a brother
00:52:57.000 remembers the way he has dealt with things, uh, and let things go.
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