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In this episode, Glenn Beck talks about Rubio's immigration speech, immigration reform, and why we need more facts in the immigration cases. He also talks about a woman in Canada who says, "I might be Canadian, but you guys have a real problem."
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If we fix the language, we can lower the temperature and have a conversation on the
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emission of key facts in the immigration cases. We've got a few of those I want to share with you.
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Also, Rubio's speech, tying it together with Great Britain and what it means there and here.
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And Kelsey Sheeran, an amazing woman who is trying to stand up and fight made in Canada.
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But she says, I might be Canadian, but you guys have a real problem. She talks about that all on
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Just got a couple of comments from insiders.
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Um, I'm talking about the, the story about how two stories, one in Minnesota, a woman who's,
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you know, tracking down ice and yelling at them as they're trying to deport somebody who literally
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had been raping children. Um, and then the second, the second, uh, story was about this guy who is an
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Irish immigrant who came here to start a new life, yada, yada, yada. But half that story has been left
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out the story that he was wanted in Ireland. He left behind his family and two 18 month old
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children and came over here and started, and then only, you know, reached out to his children 18
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years later. Um, because he was in trouble over here in America. Okay. So let me, let me tell you
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the rest of those stories here in a second and how you can communicate. But somebody wrote in,
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who was it that wrote in Tracy? Okay. Tracy said, thank you so much for the first immigrant
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story on the Ireland dad or Seamus. My daughter has been inundating me with this type of story.
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I try, but I cannot find the facts. I wonder why. And thank you for confirming what I had
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suspected. There is more to the story. Of course there is. There always is more to the story.
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Um, and they're left, they are always left out. Okay. So now that you have the facts,
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how are you going to talk to your daughter about it? Because giving her the facts won't be enough.
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You need to know how to talk to people on the other side. Uh, and I'm, believe me, I am
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a lot of the stuff I say on the air, the person that needs to hear it the most is me.
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So let's learn this together. If you will, what is the question that will open the door for anybody
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to hear you? Okay. It's not, how can you not care about the victim?
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Because they see a victim and that victim is real or not. They see a victim. You see a victim
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and they're different. So you can't say, how can you not care about the kid that was raped?
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Okay. Or in the case with the, the, uh, the Irish guy, how can you not care about the two daughters?
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You need to ask this to open the door. What would you need to see to believe the situation
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might be different from the abuses that you're worried about? Okay. Ask them questions. Always
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ask questions and separate them from the ideology. Because if you say you're wrong, they feel attacked.
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They'll fight. If you say, wow, I can understand how you're suspicious on this. Government has done
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so many bad things. Government has lied a lot. And a lot of people are worried about this.
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Can we look into this case, this specific case, a little deeper here? You're lowering their shield.
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You're giving them the wind. Do you trust, do you trust the government? Cause I don't.
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And that's the thing that we all have in common. They don't trust the government. Neither do we.
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So let's give on that one. You know what? I understand that. A lot of people are suspicious
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and I'm very suspicious of our government, but let's look at this particular, this individual
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case specifically together. You want to protect innocent people. I want to protect innocent
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people. You want to prevent abuse from the government. I want to, uh, prevent abuse from
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the government. I want fairness. You want fairness. Let's start there, but let's start with the facts
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here. Okay. This is the part that you instinctively might understand. Okay. It's why our, it's why
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that monologue with the two points of view actually works. If you can honestly hold two truths at
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once, you can make all kinds of progress. Okay. And that is one. Yeah. You should fear the
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government. You should fear the government. You should fear the government overreach. Our founders
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were against that. Our founders warned us that government is fire. So yeah. Okay. There's one
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truth and I'm with you on that. Are you also worried about violent crime and children being raped?
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Because I know you are. You're my daughter. You're my son. I know you. That is important. Those two
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things can be true. And it's in that space where we can have a dialogue. Okay. Some people are not
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going to be reached, you know, in the moment. Some people are just, I mean, if there's a, if there's a
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camera, it's over. Okay. When identity and ego and audience, uh, combine the persuasion rate drops
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almost to zero. So in that case, if there is a camera, the person that you are trying to appeal
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to is not the person yelling. This is really important. If a camera is rolling, you are no
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longer, this is Martin Luther King. You are no longer trying to persuade the person who you're,
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who's yelling at you. You're, you're now arguing for the people who are watching, who don't haven't
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fully made up their minds yet. They don't know they can be persuaded. That's where minds move.
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So once there's a camera, stop performing for that person and start understanding the audience that
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you're trying to attract and, and to appeal to are the reasonable people who still have an open mind
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and want to see which one is going to act like a normal human being. Okay. You don't break through
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by shouting louder than the crowd. You break through by speaking to the person who is standing quietly
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behind the crowd, wondering, is there another way to see the world than these two points of view?
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Because that's what we're trying to do. So let me tell you the three stories that happened in the
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parking lot in Minnesota. No battlefield, no courtroom, no history book, just a parking lot.
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Three different stories happening at the same time. Layer one, the activist. She sees agents with badges
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and unmarked cars. She didn't see safety. She sees power. Now, maybe she's watched videos for years
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that convince her that our government is, you know, is just abusing people and killing people.
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Maybe she believes the weak are always one step away from being crushed by the system, whatever.
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So she steps forward, camera in hand. She thinks she's doing something brave. She believes
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she's standing between the vulnerable and the machine. And when the agent says,
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we're looking for somebody accused of raping children, her mind is not going to process this
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information. It processes that information as some sort of justification. Because once trust is
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gone, every explanation sounds like an excuse. She doesn't trust them. She doesn't trust them.
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So it doesn't matter what they say. Layer two, the agents. Now step into the agent's shoes for a
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second. They're not seeing ideology. They're seeing names on warrants, reports, victims,
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paperwork that says someone dangerous might be close by. They're thinking about the people who
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don't get interviews on social media, the child harm, the family that lost somebody, the victim who
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doesn't get their camera pointed their way. To them, interruption is not a protest. It feels like
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obstruction, especially when people are chanting death threats to them. So when somebody says,
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I don't care that lands on them as a punch because from their side of the glass, this isn't about
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politics. It's about prevention and stopping somebody who has raped a child. Now the third
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participant in this, the silent majority, and that's everybody else. The people who are watching
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this clip later that night, the mom doing dishes, the dad, you know, scrolling, you know, in the garage,
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the teenager trying to figure out what the truth even looks like anymore. And they watch one version
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of the video and they think, how could somebody defend that? Then they watch another version and
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they think, how did we get to a country where this feels normal? They're not radicals. The third group is
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tired and all they're trying to do is decide which fear is bigger, the fear of unchecked power or the fear
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of rising chaos. Okay. That's the real story here. All three, all three perspectives are completely
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incomplete. All three of those, the activists might be missing the victims. The agents might be missing
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the distrust that people feel that's legitimate. And the audiences at home, they're being asked to
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choose a side before they've even heard the whole story. It's who makes, who appeals to their emotions
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because modern media, uh, uh, uh, rewards emotion. First context, much, much later. If context comes
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at all, it's all about how does it make you feel and civilizations collapse when people stop believing
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the other side could possibly be acting in good faith. When every disagreement becomes proof of
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evil, when every fact becomes propaganda, when empathy becomes surrender. So maybe the question
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isn't who won the argument in the parking lot. Maybe the question is how many people watched it?
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How many people became a little more certain that their fellow Americans are the enemy? Because if that
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number keeps rising, the parking lot isn't just the beginning. Okay. So how do you talk to these
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people? You've got to start where they are, not where you want them. You know, most people encounter
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that story on both sides through empathy. A main, a man detained far from home, harsh conditions, wife
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speaking publicly, dogs waiting for him. If you begin with you're being manipulated, you lose people
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instantly. Instead start with empathy. I understand why people feel sympathy for this guy. Cause I mean,
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nobody likes the idea of somebody sitting in detention for months, you know, not knowing what's
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going on his wife. What did she do? The dogs. I get it. You're not surrendering here. You're lowering
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the temperature so you can add some things to the pot. Okay. Then you have to introduce the missing
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frame, not the attack. Don't say, but he's a bad guy. Say, can we widen the frame here? Can we just
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for a second, let's step back and look at a bigger picture here. He overstayed a 90 day visa by many,
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many years. Final order of removal came from a judge. The opportunity for him to leave was,
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was available to him. The reason why he didn't want to go back is because he had drug related
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charges in Ireland. Also, he abandoned his daughters saying the daughters are saying they're abandoned and
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unsupported. I mean, you're a daughter. If dad would have left and left mom alone for 18 years,
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no child support, no, nothing, nothing. Doesn't that need to be included in this? Widen the frame.
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When, when you say, let, can we just widen the frame a little bit? I agree with what you're seeing.
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Let's widen the frame just a little bit. That is showing, I believe in fairness. I'm not going to
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dismiss everything you say. I, I see what you're saying. And then shift from the person to the pattern.
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This is a critical move. If you focus only on him, people will think you're arguing immigration
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policy. Instead, you need to say, this is not about one man. This is about how stories get built.
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Okay. The first narrative wife plus dogs, plus detention, compassion. That's what it equals.
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You add the missing details. The perception changes. People rarely resist when you make
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it about media literacy rather than politics. Nobody trusts the media. Use the terms. Both
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things can be true. This is, this is so critical because it breaks the binary thinking, which we're
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all trained. There's only right or wrong, right or wrong, right or wrong. It can be true that
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tendention conditions should be humane, but it also is true that full legal and family history matters.
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And when people realize you don't have to abandon compassion to acknowledge the facts,
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maybe they'll relax a little bit. And when they relax, then you can point to the real danger
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because the real danger is not immigration. The real danger here is emotional framing, replacing
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facts. A story designed to trigger sympathy before context appears. Selective humanization. They're
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humanizing the guy, but dehumanizing ice. Some victims are centered. Others disappear. What about the,
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what about the children, the abandoned children? What about the children on the other guy that was
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raping children? What, what about them? People pick a side before hearing the full record. That is a
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real, real problem. The danger is not that people feel compassion. The danger is when compassion gets
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steered by omission. So instead of confrontation, use things like, but can I, can I widen this view for you a
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little bit? Did you hear that? Can we zoom out for a minute? Because there's this fact, you know, I felt that
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way too. I understand how you feel until I heard fill in the blank. Ask the question, what would change if both
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stories are true? Anything change for you? If both stories are true? Invite thinking instead of triggering
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defense. Because what we're doing right now is triggering defense. What never works is you care more
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about the dogs than you do about kids. Label, you're, you're just so naive. You know, all of you people,
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you just have bad intent. Lead with accusations, you'll fail every time. Those things only harden
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the identity. The danger isn't that we feel sympathy. The danger is when sympathy is handed before the
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whole story arrives. Tell them the whole story. People don't change when you prove them wrong. They
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change when they realize, I didn't have all the facts. And your goal is not to win the argument,
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Glenn Beck program. And we really want to thank you for listening. We're talking about, uh, Marco Rubio's
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speech in Berlin this week. And I want to take it over to England. I mean, um, the, the main point
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that we need to get out of Europe right now is they know it's over. They know that what they're doing
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is not going to work. And as Marco Rubio said, we did it too. We were there. We're just changing
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because of Donald Trump. We have woken up and we're changing and we have to do something different.
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And that begins with remembering who you are. Okay. Let me, I'm going to come back to that point
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here and say, just remember, remember who you are first. Let me, let me give you something. This is
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from an MP in great Britain over the weekend. He posted on X and he launched the, uh, a new political
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party. I want you to hear this cut one Rupert Lowe. I have chosen to speak to you today from the farm
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because places like this represent what proper Britain is about. Hard work, responsibility,
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effort, duty, stewardship. This is the England I know. And this is the England that I love on a farm.
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You don't think in election cycles or headlines or polling. You think in seasons. You think in
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generations, in what you leave behind to those who come after you. And that's why here on the farm,
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I am now launching Restore Britain as a national political party. I'm now going to dedicate my life
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to finding, organizing, funding, and providing hundreds of qualified candidates to present to
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the British people at the next general election. This process has already started with invitations
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being issued to Patriots in aligned political parties, reform, the Conservatives, the SDP,
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advance, and more. The men and women standing for Restore in that election will not be politicians.
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I promise you that they will not be failed ministers. They will not be tainted by failures of the past.
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They will be from business, from the military, from science, from medicine, from education,
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from industry, representing real communities up and down the country. Every single one will be from
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well outside the existing political establishment. And every single one will understand the difficult
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decisions that need to be taken. Because there are no easy fixes. I'm not going to tell you comforting
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lies about the condition of our country. I have only ever been honest with the British people.
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And I will be straight with you now. What is necessary will be incredibly painful. But for the first
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time in a very long time, voters will have a genuine alternative, which is truthful with them about the
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Okay, so this is a guy who, he led the inquiry into the Pakistani rape game, rape gangs, which
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failed spectacularly. I mean, I don't know how you're a politician and you vote against an inquiry
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into the rape gangs, but they did it in overwhelming numbers. And so he's had enough. This is coming.
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I got to tell you, um, I really think, uh, with everything, the way it is going now with the
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justice department and if Congress fails on the save act, you're going to start to see this kind
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of thing happening in America. You're going to say, I'm done with the demo of the Republicans
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done with the Democrats, but done with the Republicans get the same old crap every time. And you're going
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to see people like him saying, I will finance and it'll probably be Elon Musk. And, uh, good luck
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with that Republicans, you know, vote against the save act at your own peril. Okay. I've got a couple
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of examples of what is happening over in Europe where this kind of thing is taking, uh, is taking hold
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now. Okay. What Rubio was talking about, um, this weekend was this system has failed and Donald Trump
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is going a completely different direction and we will lead the way, at least for our people. And we would
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love to have you join us in this, but you have to restore common sense. You cannot keep doing the same
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thing over and over again. This system doesn't work. And we all know it just, we're the first ones to
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admit it. It doesn't work. So what do you do? I mean, have you ever worked for a failing company?
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Have you ever worked for, I remember I was 18 years old and I worked for WPGC and it was one of the
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first real top 40 radio stations in the country. It was the one that financed the Beatles to come
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over for the Ed Sullivan show. And the deal was come over for the Ed Sullivan show. And then you
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come down and do a concert in Washington, DC for us at WPGC. They led the way on rock and roll for
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forever. I mean, I remember I was going through the archives, I'm 18 years old and they put me in
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charge of the archives. And I go through the archives and I find this picture of John, Paul,
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George, and Ringo in WPGC t-shirts. I have never seen a picture of the Beatles in a radio station
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t-shirt before. And I was brought in as the, as the station was starting to fail. And so I was part
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of the team and we used to talk about it in the hallways. We're going to be remembered as the,
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this, the team that was the demise of this great radio station. And I hated it, hated it. And no
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one would listen to reason and, and restore. WPGC is still in Washington, DC. It's a success again,
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but it's not a top 40 station and it's, but you know, it was a success. Um, if you've ever worked
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for a company going down, you know, there are many options in front of you, you can give up and give
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in and you get to say, let it go. Doesn't matter. Let it go. I'm not one of those people because I
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like history. I know what history means. Um, and when it comes to Western civilization,
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how could you make the case that it's worth letting go? You could only make a case if you've
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been carefully taught that Western civilization means nothing except bad things. And you're
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misinformed on that. And it's going to be a dangerous awakening when you finally get the real
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news on what the Western civilization is. This is why I keep saying we're, we're already in world war
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three. We're fighting world war three. You just don't know it yet. Islam is on the move and what
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is their target? Western civilization. You take down Western civilization and they occupy those countries,
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which they've been trying to do for thousand plus years. They occupy those countries. They now a have
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nuclear weapons. And if they occupy those countries, you no longer have what built us.
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You no longer have where we all came from. You no longer have the memory because the memory will be
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erased. So you can, you can work for a company and you have a choice. You're going to go for the
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hostile takeover and they'll sell off all the parts. You can come up with a, this is what WPGC did a whole
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new plan. They were like, okay, we're not that anymore. We don't care about that history. And they,
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they worked hard to erase the history of who they were and they eventually were successful, but they
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aren't what they were. And you know, maybe that doesn't matter when it comes to a radio station,
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but it does when it comes to a culture or you can see the writing on the wall and you can go, okay,
00:27:45.320
what we are is really, really important. And I see the future. We're going to keep doing what we do
00:27:53.720
best, but we will adapt to the new realities. And so you restart the company. You have the same
00:28:01.220
company, same goals, but you're achieving them in different ways. And let me give you a real world
00:28:07.760
example. 1908, a company, a Fisher carriage. It makes wooden carriages. It makes the, you know,
00:28:17.360
everything back then, the horse, you know, and buggy and the, and the carriage for the car, you know,
00:28:22.960
early on the cars, they were all wooden and then they would slap some metal on top of them,
00:28:28.620
but there was a wooden frame underneath. And that's what Fisher carriage did. Fisher carriage
00:28:34.080
made the greatest suspension and carriages in America. They saw what was coming and that is the
00:28:44.000
automobile and started making wooden carriages and they made good wooden carriages by 19. Let me look
00:28:50.580
this. A 19, uh, 10, they were known as the, uh, carriage company to make wooden cars, but they saw
00:29:02.400
what was coming and they realized we have to get into steel by 19, 19 GM comes in Fisher carriages,
00:29:13.480
the important part of the car, not the engine, just the rest of the car. They have a choice.
00:29:20.280
We can either just keep doing what we've been doing, make carriages for, you know, horses and
00:29:26.520
everything else, but we believe the car is the future. And we, they had slowly retooled what they
00:29:32.980
had been doing. And by 1920, 1919, they're purchased by, uh, GM now GM, because they had strategically made
00:29:45.020
partnerships. They saw the future. They saw that it was cards. So they made strategic partnerships.
00:29:50.980
They were going to build the, the carriages for, um, uh, for Cadillac. They were going to be making
00:29:57.780
all of the carriages for all of the different companies under the GM label. Now that was kind
00:30:03.320
of scary because you're going up against Ford, but Ford wasn't changing. He wasn't willing to change
00:30:10.540
care of Fisher carriages, willing to change. When I was growing up, you would open the door
00:30:17.200
of a Cadillac or anything, any card made by GM, you would open the door and there would be a little
00:30:21.980
plate and it was a little blue belt plate. And it had, it had a horse and, and, and carriage logo
00:30:28.740
on it. Just had that carriage. Like, you know, you see the, I don't know, the queen or the princess,
00:30:33.020
you know, going in, in a Disney movie, saw that. And it said underneath Fisher made a carriage or a
00:30:40.120
body made by Fisher. Okay. May I suggest that we understand that times have changed and we want our
00:30:52.200
country to survive. And we want the Western civilization to survive. And so we can't sit
00:31:00.400
here and say, we make horse and buggies. We make the buggies for the horse. And that's all we're ever
00:31:07.540
going to do. We see the world is changing and has changed and we adapt. So we don't lose who we are.
00:31:16.640
We do it in a different way. We do it in a better way, but we hold our values and what made us a
00:31:23.760
country in the first place. We don't throw everything out and we don't hold onto the crap
00:31:29.580
that, that doesn't work. Get rid of that crap. It's over. Those days are over. Great. What made us
00:31:39.340
a great country in the first place? Let's remember those things. Let's restore those things. And then
00:31:44.480
let's adapt those to today's issues and problems. I think that's what Rubio was saying. And he was
00:31:53.800
challenging Europe. And at the same time, he was reminding America, this is what Donald Trump is
00:32:01.500
challenging America to do as well. We're going to do it. Join us. That was the last part. Remember I
00:32:10.500
told you he had this great pattern. Start with a unifying memory, bring people together. Remember
00:32:15.600
what we were then state the problem. Here's the problem. It doesn't work anymore. Then state the
00:32:22.100
intent. We want to preserve Western civilization. The next step was invite them to join. And we don't
00:32:30.760
want to do it alone. We want to do it with you because we're family. Invoke the memory again.
00:32:37.780
We came from you. And then the last step was show the promise that the goal will accomplish.
00:32:48.540
If we do this and do this together, we will be stronger. We will preserve Western civilization,
00:32:55.240
but it will work so much easier and so much better if we do it together.
00:33:01.000
You're listening to the best of Glenn Beck. Need a little more? Check out the full show
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podcasts anywhere you download podcasts. Man, I'm so excited to have our next guest on.
00:33:10.720
Kelsey Sharon is somebody. She's a Canadian combat veteran. She was a former artillery gunner,
00:33:18.820
a female searcher. She served right alongside the Americans and the British in Afghanistan in 2009.
00:33:25.180
Uh, it took a physical and mental toll on her diagnosed with PTSD and traumatic brain injury.
00:33:31.760
She rebuilt her entire life through therapy and entrepreneurship. Uh, and she is on this mission
00:33:38.260
to, uh, to help, uh, bring to attention death, uh, and the, the silent epidemic of our, our veteran
00:33:48.340
suicide. I wanted to get her on as I just saw her in an interview. Oh, I don't remember who it was.
00:33:54.320
Um, but she was, uh, talking about the maid program up in Canada and going through some of the details,
00:34:01.000
you know, they just did this study on how much will, how much will Canada, Canada save if they
00:34:05.660
just kill people instead of giving them palliative care? Oh my gosh, $1.27 trillion. Okay. That's a
00:34:13.620
horrifying, uh, stat and horrifying that anybody was like, how much can we say by killing people who
00:34:19.700
are going to die anyway? I mean, I read about that in history books. It didn't end well,
00:34:24.940
Kelsey is here with us now. Hi, Kelsey. How are you? Hi Glenn. Nice to meet you. Thanks for having
00:34:29.080
me. You bet. You bet. So can you go through this? I mean, how did they even get to the point to where
00:34:34.300
they're like, yeah, we can save a whole lot of, uh, a buttload of money if we start killing people.
00:34:40.040
Well, I mean, that's what happens when you have a liberal government for over 10 years that has told
00:34:44.600
you for a very long time since the seventies and his father's own documents, the Trudeau Federation
00:34:49.520
foundation that they wanted to roll out assisted dying in Canada. They want it to be more like
00:34:54.020
Denmark. They want it to be more like Europe, a more progressive country that utilizes, you know,
00:34:59.140
choice and compassion and dignity. And they use all of these really wonderful keywords that,
00:35:04.860
you know, people grab onto and for solace when their loved ones are passing away. And frankly,
00:35:10.600
Canada is like the least of our problems at this point. America's slow rolling this,
00:35:14.720
like I've never seen before, but Canada itself. Yeah. Canada itself has been toying with this
00:35:20.420
since, you know, well in the nineties when dying with dignity really started to come to fruition.
00:35:24.780
And then ultimately in 2016, when a pro-death cult called dying with dignity had over $9 million and
00:35:31.880
decided to challenge the Supreme court and actually won in the Carter versus Canada case. And that's when
00:35:37.480
killing began. So you're right about the United States and I'm, I'm so concerned about what we're
00:35:43.360
teaching our doctors and our nurses and our medical schools and state after state starting to roll
00:35:48.720
this out just like Canada. And what a surprise it's the most progressive States, uh, in America.
00:35:54.340
Um, not necessarily though, that's where most people are very wrong. It's a lot of red States
00:35:59.300
are actually rolling this out. And a lot of Republicans in places like Montana have voted for this.
00:36:05.380
You know, my job isn't to, you know, just teach people about what's going on. It's to raise the alarm
00:36:10.900
so that you guys can stop it dead in its tracks. And right now you guys have 14 States and are
00:36:16.340
rolling at another 18 this year. And, uh, we have the list of those with bills on the table. We know
00:36:21.600
who's doing it and we know who's promoting it in America. And it all starts with compassionate
00:36:25.880
choices and the Rabin group who ironically work alongside the Bill Gates foundation and the Obama
00:36:31.500
foundation. And we actually got their marching orders for this year to 2028. And by 2028, uh, over 50%
00:36:38.260
of the American population will live in States where made is available. And you don't have
00:36:42.200
residency requirements in Vermont or Oregon, which means you have death tourism coming.
00:36:54.580
No, I know. No, I know. It's, it is. You were, you, you state the facts and it was,
00:37:00.120
yeah, that's why I asked you to get on. It's just so sorry.
00:37:03.580
How do you stop this? How do you stop this? It is so well funded, so well planned. Um, and people,
00:37:10.480
they don't, they don't get it. I mean, this is what happens in history over and over again. You
00:37:15.100
don't get it until it's too late. And you're like, what they've been telling you the whole time. If
00:37:19.600
there is, if there is some sort of shortage of medical care, then rationing has to start. And what
00:37:25.380
do you think that means? It means this. And what do you think a shortage is like? We'll never have
00:37:29.520
shortages. We have shortages today. Yes, we do. We have shortages of nurses and doctors. Cause we
00:37:35.460
all fired them. You know, I don't know which words I can say here, so I'll be careful, but, um, we
00:37:39.740
have, you know, we fired them. FCC rules, but on that, you can say, you can say whatever you want.
00:37:44.620
So, yeah. So, you know, in Canada, we fired all of the nurses and doctors and firefighters
00:37:48.340
who refuse the vaccine, who had backbones in America, same sort of thing. And then we cry,
00:37:52.680
Oh my God, we have a shortage and hospitals have to close. And we just don't know why it's like,
00:37:57.540
you know, a lot of this isn't rocket science is to the average human, but I, you know, I really do
00:38:04.060
believe I put my life into this work for a reason. I have the largest podcast in the globe that covers
00:38:09.120
made daily. And so I try to bring it up in a way that's understanding to people that are not going
00:38:15.860
to be depressed. So I look at it this way, like we actually have the power. Americans actually have
00:38:20.700
the power. Canadian citizens have the power. We have to be willing to assert said power. And you don't
00:38:26.600
know how to assert power if you don't know what's happening. And so my job is to do the
00:38:32.560
investigative deep diving work with, I have great people, you know, Alex Schattenberg and a lot of
00:38:37.160
different people who have been studying this for 30, 40 years, who have become mentors of mine.
00:38:40.760
And I'm just really a, I'm just really a vessel and a voice for this, for this issue. And it's
00:38:45.760
really because they started offering it to veterans. And those veterans happen to be friends of mine who
00:38:50.780
called in 2019 and 2021. So, you know, in Canada, this spring, we're about to hit our 100,000th
00:38:58.060
death. We are expanding to the mentally ill in March of 2027. And then I put an episode out today
00:39:04.400
on the Kelsey Sharon perspective, where I was able to show that Sick Kids Hospital, the greatest,
00:39:09.620
biggest hospital for children in Canada, actually went into parliament arguing that we should be killing
00:39:14.420
mature minors in 2023. And that means children down to zero to one. And that's what Quebec is
00:39:20.720
arguing right now. Now, I'm careful to state that, of course, there's levels to Canada. And this is
00:39:26.600
what happens when you allow death. And that was the Jillian Michaels interview, she brought me in to
00:39:31.720
have a conversation about. And the reason it stood out to people was because Western University did a
00:39:36.640
study, and it was supposed to be, I mean, just make it very clear, because people love to correct me.
00:39:41.340
It was supposed to be an if situation, Glenn. This is an if situation. But here's what happens
00:39:47.280
with if really quickly. When you allow death to walk through the door, you don't get to decide how
00:39:51.720
it's amended. Now, Canada funds dying with dignity, dying with dignity challenges the Supreme Court
00:39:57.800
they have over, we saw their financials from last year over $9 million. They make over $700,000
00:40:02.900
in investment in just like the turnaround alone. Now for America, compassion and choices is your death
00:40:08.800
cult, right? These are the guys who lobby all of your governments, who are in DC, who are in
00:40:13.620
Washington, who are in Florida and Arizona, talking to all your senators. And then they've hired
00:40:19.480
quietly the Rabin Group. And the Rabin Group, people should really be paying attention to because
00:40:24.140
this is your, this is your social elite. These are the ones going around slow dripping the mentality
00:40:30.640
to the elderly and to everyone that, you know what, it's a peaceful death. But the longer I do this
00:40:35.800
work, the more evidence I find that it's not peaceful, we actually paralyze you and drown
00:40:39.760
you to death. And that's Dr. Joel's of its work I spoke about on Jordan Peterson. So, you know,
00:40:44.280
this isn't, this isn't small, this is eugenics, you guys don't even allow the death penalty in
00:40:49.100
certain states, but you'll allow your loved one to drink a cup of poison and have a death potentially
00:40:53.720
up to 137 hours. So we have to stop pretending that this is compassion and dignity and empathy.
00:41:00.180
It never has been. It's called eugenics. It's rolled its way back around because we forgot what
00:41:05.460
history looks like. And now Canada has killed the most people. I mean, like I said, 100,000 people
00:41:11.560
in a decade. That's an entire town. That's an entire village. And these aren't elderly. Glenn,
00:41:17.400
these are not elderly people. We have Keanu's case, you have Kayla Pollack, who you spoke to,
00:41:22.280
you have Roger Foley, we have case of coercion after coercion after coercion. And the problem is,
00:41:28.700
in my opinion, Canada's too far gone because they're so infiltrated. But America has a real
00:41:34.440
chance here. You know, I've been speaking with Alex Jones recently a lot about this, trying to get
00:41:40.000
to people like RFK and Donald Trump to understand that I spoke with your United States State Department
00:41:45.440
and they were not even aware there were bills on the table to legalize this. And they're even looking
00:41:51.940
at revamping the Pachetta bill in America because Bill, you know, Bill Clinton said, we can't be
00:41:58.760
funding, you know, anything assisted death. So then what the death lobby has done is change the
00:42:05.060
language. So it's not assisted death anymore, Glenn. It's end of life care. So if you change the term,
00:42:12.240
they can get the bill passed. And now I found evidence of them targeting Veterans Affairs America
00:42:16.680
once the Pachetta bill is back in place. Have you ever read War on the Week? The book by Edwin
00:42:24.140
Black? No, I have not. It outlines, oh, you need to talk to Edwin Black. He is the best. But he did
00:42:33.560
extensive research on, you know, eugenics and how it killed all the week and how it was all perpetrated,
00:42:40.660
how it was done. It is a book of just solid documentation of what happened in the past.
00:42:46.680
And if you know all of that, you see this unfolding and you're like, it's happening again.
00:42:53.120
It's, you know, Hugo Boss designed the black SS officers outfits. Okay. It doesn't come in
00:43:02.180
looking scary. We think of those black SS uniforms as scary. They didn't at the time they were sharp.
00:43:08.460
They were beautiful. It was Hugo Boss. And, and it comes in and it screams compassion. The black
00:43:16.180
uniforms were not as frightening as the white uniforms of the doctors and the nurses in the
00:43:20.480
1930s and forties in Germany. And we're doing the same thing and they're doing it exactly the same way.
00:43:27.620
Yeah. Why do we not learn? Well, we don't learn because this is money talks and power is power,
00:43:33.880
right? And so the thing we figured out is that, you know, the beautiful gold standard healthcare
00:43:38.460
system in the communist country I live in is actually, you know, 20,000 people die a year on the
00:43:43.980
healthcare waiting lists. Uh, we have over one point, uh, over a million people walking out of
00:43:48.200
ERs because they can't see a doctor. We have no doctors. We cannot get dental care. We're overrun
00:43:53.040
by immigration and they don't have to pay for, for, um, for hospitals or anything along those lines.
00:43:59.220
So people like myself who come from actually a family who escaped the Nazis in Hungary and came to
00:44:05.280
Canada, worked their way up. We don't, we can't have that conversation because I look white now,
00:44:10.680
don't I? So we can't have that conversation, but we can for sure allow the Trudeau government from
00:44:15.680
2015 and 16 upwards to institute this program where ironically, just ironically though, Glenn, 96%
00:44:25.440
of the people using this program are white. And so if you look at America, 95% of the people that
00:44:33.880
have used that program are also white. And so it's, it's, people can say this is a race thing,
00:44:39.200
but it's a cost saving thing. So this study I was bringing up, it was an if situation and they were
00:44:44.700
just running basic numbers. And they were saying, look, if we kept expanding the law, which by the
00:44:50.640
way, we already are. So that's not an if anymore to me. If we keep expanding the law, then what we
00:44:55.700
will see eventually is a savings of over a trillion dollars. Now, just as the law sits today in February
00:45:01.200
16th, it's already saved $117 billion by not providing palliative care or hospice. So is it,
00:45:09.680
let me ask you, cause this is the question people don't get. Is it really free will or choice if
00:45:13.860
their only choice is death? No, it's, it's not free. It's not free will. I mean, uh, you know,
00:45:21.860
and you're the killer, the, uh, the shooter up in Canada recently, I read his words and he was,
00:45:29.560
you know, a few years ago, he's like, I just, I'd rather die than wait. I can't wait for this
00:45:33.940
healthcare system anymore. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait. I'd just rather die.
00:45:37.500
If he had made, he would have, he would have been killed. Now, some people will say, well,
00:45:42.360
that would have been better. That's not the choice. That's not the choice. It's a false choice.
00:45:48.580
Well, and that's where we're at. I mean, I've had 23 operations now and every,
00:45:53.140
almost the majority of them, I've had to go to a mentor of mine, Gabby Reese. So she could call an
00:45:58.140
athlete's team who could call somebody else to get surgery for me because you'll die on a waiting
00:46:02.540
list here. And that's the reality. I'm not being emotive or facetious at all. I go to America for
00:46:07.300
the majority of my treatment. My brain treatment was done in Texas and it was donated by American
00:46:12.080
donors to defenders of freedom. I have gone through significant amounts of, uh, psychedelic
00:46:17.520
treatment through heroic hearts project, who again is American funded. But at the same time,
00:46:22.120
speaking of the shooter, the very male shooter, should we say, I'm a psychedelic integration
00:46:27.540
specialist and I've been on the pharmacology cocktail. This guy was on. And I got to tell
00:46:32.000
you when you combine those with psychedelics and then you don't have any proper care, you know,
00:46:37.780
you're going to get a psychosis. You're going to get these situations. And so we, you know,
00:46:42.640
we just had a case in Ontario where a guy actually won the right for the government to pay for his new
00:46:48.340
vagina because he wanted to transition so badly. You know, we have to stop affirming mental illness,
00:46:54.060
which is the first part. And then in 2027, which is really terrifying and people should pay attention
00:47:00.780
to this. If you are Canadian or American, because it starts at track one and then it makes its way
00:47:04.820
down. So in 2027, it's when you are allowed to be killed. I say murder. So I know it's aggressive,
00:47:11.620
but I believe this is murder. Your doctor's allowed to murder you in 2027 if you have a mental
00:47:16.780
illness only. So that's depression. That's PTSD. That's major depressive disorder. That's
00:47:23.700
postpartum mummies. You know, I'm pregnant right now. I'm almost seven months pregnant. And I went
00:47:28.080
through postpartum with my last child. I can't imagine if I was having a hard time going into an
00:47:33.340
ER saying, I need help. Can you help me protect me from myself? And we had a case of this. I talked
00:47:38.860
about it on trigonometry where the nurse said, you know what? How about maid? And this was a lady asking
00:47:43.920
and screaming, please, I don't want to kill myself, but I feel like I might. And she put
00:47:48.820
her hand on her lap and said, have you heard of maid? So this is a coercion program. This doesn't
00:47:53.780
stay at grandmas and grandpas with ALS, like, you know, Governor Kathy Hogel started with. It
00:47:59.640
doesn't work that way. It goes from there and it trickles down. And now Quebec is suggesting
00:48:06.400
Kelsey, I would love to have you on for a longer period of time. I'd love to have you
00:48:10.900
in a podcast. You keep doing the good work. You're doing God's work. Thank you so much.
00:48:16.580
You bet. The Kelsey Sheeran perspective, you can find her at KelseySheeran.com.
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