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00:02:32.160 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Just got a couple of comments from insiders.

00:02:36.620 Um, I'm talking about the, the story about how two stories, one in Minnesota, a woman who's,

00:02:44.960 you know, tracking down ice and yelling at them as they're trying to deport somebody who literally

00:02:50.040 had been raping children. Um, and then the second, the second, uh, story was about this guy who is an

00:02:57.300 Irish immigrant who came here to start a new life, yada, yada, yada. But half that story has been left

00:03:03.580 out the story that he was wanted in Ireland. He left behind his family and two 18 month old

00:03:10.240 children and came over here and started, and then only, you know, reached out to his children 18

00:03:16.180 years later. Um, because he was in trouble over here in America. Okay. So let me, let me tell you

00:03:23.580 the rest of those stories here in a second and how you can communicate. But somebody wrote in,

00:03:27.820 who was it that wrote in Tracy? Okay. Tracy said, thank you so much for the first immigrant

00:03:32.380 story on the Ireland dad or Seamus. My daughter has been inundating me with this type of story.

00:03:37.680 I try, but I cannot find the facts. I wonder why. And thank you for confirming what I had

00:03:43.620 suspected. There is more to the story. Of course there is. There always is more to the story.

00:03:48.260 Um, and they're left, they are always left out. Okay. So now that you have the facts,

00:03:53.960 how are you going to talk to your daughter about it? Because giving her the facts won't be enough.

00:04:01.380 You need to know how to talk to people on the other side. Uh, and I'm, believe me, I am

00:04:08.200 a lot of the stuff I say on the air, the person that needs to hear it the most is me.

00:04:15.560 So let's learn this together. If you will, what is the question that will open the door for anybody

00:04:23.760 to hear you? Okay. It's not, how can you not care about the victim?

00:04:30.780 Because they see a victim and that victim is real or not. They see a victim. You see a victim

00:04:36.280 and they're different. So you can't say, how can you not care about the kid that was raped?

00:04:40.880 Okay. Or in the case with the, the, uh, the Irish guy, how can you not care about the two daughters? 0.89

00:04:46.420 You need to ask this to open the door. What would you need to see to believe the situation

00:04:54.580 might be different from the abuses that you're worried about? Okay. Ask them questions. Always

00:05:02.640 ask questions and separate them from the ideology. Because if you say you're wrong, they feel attacked.

00:05:09.820 They'll fight. If you say, wow, I can understand how you're suspicious on this. Government has done

00:05:15.300 so many bad things. Government has lied a lot. And a lot of people are worried about this.

00:05:20.300 Can we look into this case, this specific case, a little deeper here? You're lowering their shield.

00:05:27.260 You're giving them the wind. Do you trust, do you trust the government? Cause I don't.

00:05:32.200 And that's the thing that we all have in common. They don't trust the government. Neither do we.

00:05:36.320 So let's give on that one. You know what? I understand that. A lot of people are suspicious

00:05:42.220 and I'm very suspicious of our government, but let's look at this particular, this individual

00:05:48.920 case specifically together. You want to protect innocent people. I want to protect innocent

00:05:57.680 people. You want to prevent abuse from the government. I want to, uh, prevent abuse from

00:06:03.260 the government. I want fairness. You want fairness. Let's start there, but let's start with the facts

00:06:08.620 here. Okay. This is the part that you instinctively might understand. Okay. It's why our, it's why

00:06:20.460 that monologue with the two points of view actually works. If you can honestly hold two truths at

00:06:27.800 once, you can make all kinds of progress. Okay. And that is one. Yeah. You should fear the

00:06:36.840 government. You should fear the government. You should fear the government overreach. Our founders

00:06:40.960 were against that. Our founders warned us that government is fire. So yeah. Okay. There's one

00:06:46.920 truth and I'm with you on that. Are you also worried about violent crime and children being raped?

00:06:55.260 Because I know you are. You're my daughter. You're my son. I know you. That is important. Those two 0.73

00:07:02.480 things can be true. And it's in that space where we can have a dialogue. Okay. Some people are not

00:07:10.780 going to be reached, you know, in the moment. Some people are just, I mean, if there's a, if there's a

00:07:14.860 camera, it's over. Okay. When identity and ego and audience, uh, combine the persuasion rate drops

00:07:24.760 almost to zero. So in that case, if there is a camera, the person that you are trying to appeal

00:07:32.240 to is not the person yelling. This is really important. If a camera is rolling, you are no

00:07:39.980 longer, this is Martin Luther King. You are no longer trying to persuade the person who you're,

00:07:46.620 who's yelling at you. You're, you're now arguing for the people who are watching, who don't haven't

00:07:55.440 fully made up their minds yet. They don't know they can be persuaded. That's where minds move.

00:08:01.300 So once there's a camera, stop performing for that person and start understanding the audience that

00:08:08.000 you're trying to attract and, and to appeal to are the reasonable people who still have an open mind

00:08:14.360 and want to see which one is going to act like a normal human being. Okay. You don't break through

00:08:20.540 by shouting louder than the crowd. You break through by speaking to the person who is standing quietly

00:08:26.100 behind the crowd, wondering, is there another way to see the world than these two points of view?

00:08:30.460 Because that's what we're trying to do. So let me tell you the three stories that happened in the

00:08:39.960 parking lot in Minnesota. No battlefield, no courtroom, no history book, just a parking lot.

00:08:46.860 Three different stories happening at the same time. Layer one, the activist. She sees agents with badges

00:08:53.800 and unmarked cars. She didn't see safety. She sees power. Now, maybe she's watched videos for years

00:09:01.220 that convince her that our government is, you know, is just abusing people and killing people. 0.89

00:09:06.280 Maybe she believes the weak are always one step away from being crushed by the system, whatever.

00:09:11.140 So she steps forward, camera in hand. She thinks she's doing something brave. She believes

00:09:17.780 she's standing between the vulnerable and the machine. And when the agent says,

00:09:22.620 we're looking for somebody accused of raping children, her mind is not going to process this

00:09:28.300 information. It processes that information as some sort of justification. Because once trust is

00:09:35.660 gone, every explanation sounds like an excuse. She doesn't trust them. She doesn't trust them.

00:09:41.340 So it doesn't matter what they say. Layer two, the agents. Now step into the agent's shoes for a

00:09:49.280 second. They're not seeing ideology. They're seeing names on warrants, reports, victims,

00:09:56.140 paperwork that says someone dangerous might be close by. They're thinking about the people who

00:10:01.780 don't get interviews on social media, the child harm, the family that lost somebody, the victim who

00:10:06.940 doesn't get their camera pointed their way. To them, interruption is not a protest. It feels like

00:10:12.420 obstruction, especially when people are chanting death threats to them. So when somebody says,

00:10:17.180 I don't care that lands on them as a punch because from their side of the glass, this isn't about

00:10:25.020 politics. It's about prevention and stopping somebody who has raped a child. Now the third 0.98

00:10:32.700 participant in this, the silent majority, and that's everybody else. The people who are watching

00:10:39.220 this clip later that night, the mom doing dishes, the dad, you know, scrolling, you know, in the garage,

00:10:45.000 the teenager trying to figure out what the truth even looks like anymore. And they watch one version

00:10:49.920 of the video and they think, how could somebody defend that? Then they watch another version and

00:10:55.200 they think, how did we get to a country where this feels normal? They're not radicals. The third group is

00:11:04.660 tired and all they're trying to do is decide which fear is bigger, the fear of unchecked power or the fear

00:11:13.200 of rising chaos. Okay. That's the real story here. All three, all three perspectives are completely

00:11:21.680 incomplete. All three of those, the activists might be missing the victims. The agents might be missing

00:11:31.060 the distrust that people feel that's legitimate. And the audiences at home, they're being asked to

00:11:37.320 choose a side before they've even heard the whole story. It's who makes, who appeals to their emotions

00:11:43.560 because modern media, uh, uh, uh, rewards emotion. First context, much, much later. If context comes

00:11:52.600 at all, it's all about how does it make you feel and civilizations collapse when people stop believing

00:12:00.340 the other side could possibly be acting in good faith. When every disagreement becomes proof of

00:12:07.280 evil, when every fact becomes propaganda, when empathy becomes surrender. So maybe the question

00:12:14.640 isn't who won the argument in the parking lot. Maybe the question is how many people watched it?

00:12:19.720 How many people became a little more certain that their fellow Americans are the enemy? Because if that

00:12:25.420 number keeps rising, the parking lot isn't just the beginning. Okay. So how do you talk to these

00:12:31.620 people? You've got to start where they are, not where you want them. You know, most people encounter

00:12:38.680 that story on both sides through empathy. A main, a man detained far from home, harsh conditions, wife

00:12:46.120 speaking publicly, dogs waiting for him. If you begin with you're being manipulated, you lose people

00:12:52.520 instantly. Instead start with empathy. I understand why people feel sympathy for this guy. Cause I mean,

00:13:01.480 nobody likes the idea of somebody sitting in detention for months, you know, not knowing what's

00:13:06.280 going on his wife. What did she do? The dogs. I get it. You're not surrendering here. You're lowering

00:13:14.240 the temperature so you can add some things to the pot. Okay. Then you have to introduce the missing

00:13:23.200 frame, not the attack. Don't say, but he's a bad guy. Say, can we widen the frame here? Can we just

00:13:29.820 for a second, let's step back and look at a bigger picture here. He overstayed a 90 day visa by many,

00:13:36.680 many years. Final order of removal came from a judge. The opportunity for him to leave was,

00:13:43.700 was available to him. The reason why he didn't want to go back is because he had drug related

00:13:49.120 charges in Ireland. Also, he abandoned his daughters saying the daughters are saying they're abandoned and

00:13:56.560 unsupported. I mean, you're a daughter. If dad would have left and left mom alone for 18 years,

00:14:05.020 no child support, no, nothing, nothing. Doesn't that need to be included in this? Widen the frame.

00:14:14.380 When, when you say, let, can we just widen the frame a little bit? I agree with what you're seeing.

00:14:19.360 Let's widen the frame just a little bit. That is showing, I believe in fairness. I'm not going to

00:14:23.940 dismiss everything you say. I, I see what you're saying. And then shift from the person to the pattern.

00:14:31.380 This is a critical move. If you focus only on him, people will think you're arguing immigration

00:14:38.200 policy. Instead, you need to say, this is not about one man. This is about how stories get built.

00:14:46.000 Okay. The first narrative wife plus dogs, plus detention, compassion. That's what it equals. 1.00

00:14:52.480 You add the missing details. The perception changes. People rarely resist when you make

00:15:00.220 it about media literacy rather than politics. Nobody trusts the media. Use the terms. Both

00:15:08.740 things can be true. This is, this is so critical because it breaks the binary thinking, which we're

00:15:16.020 all trained. There's only right or wrong, right or wrong, right or wrong. It can be true that

00:15:22.000 tendention conditions should be humane, but it also is true that full legal and family history matters.

00:15:30.360 And when people realize you don't have to abandon compassion to acknowledge the facts,

00:15:36.680 maybe they'll relax a little bit. And when they relax, then you can point to the real danger

00:15:42.520 because the real danger is not immigration. The real danger here is emotional framing, replacing

00:15:53.480 facts. A story designed to trigger sympathy before context appears. Selective humanization. They're

00:16:04.020 humanizing the guy, but dehumanizing ice. Some victims are centered. Others disappear. What about the,

00:16:11.840 what about the children, the abandoned children? What about the children on the other guy that was

00:16:18.640 raping children? What, what about them? People pick a side before hearing the full record. That is a 0.96

00:16:28.140 real, real problem. The danger is not that people feel compassion. The danger is when compassion gets

00:16:34.380 steered by omission. So instead of confrontation, use things like, but can I, can I widen this view for you a

00:16:46.280 little bit? Did you hear that? Can we zoom out for a minute? Because there's this fact, you know, I felt that

00:16:52.020 way too. I understand how you feel until I heard fill in the blank. Ask the question, what would change if both

00:17:00.460 stories are true? Anything change for you? If both stories are true? Invite thinking instead of triggering

00:17:09.440 defense. Because what we're doing right now is triggering defense. What never works is you care more

00:17:16.800 about the dogs than you do about kids. Label, you're, you're just so naive. You know, all of you people,

00:17:23.240 you just have bad intent. Lead with accusations, you'll fail every time. Those things only harden

00:17:29.440 the identity. The danger isn't that we feel sympathy. The danger is when sympathy is handed before the

00:17:36.460 whole story arrives. Tell them the whole story. People don't change when you prove them wrong. They

00:17:44.200 change when they realize, I didn't have all the facts. And your goal is not to win the argument,

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00:19:09.600 Glenn Beck program. And we really want to thank you for listening. We're talking about, uh, Marco Rubio's

00:19:15.180 speech in Berlin this week. And I want to take it over to England. I mean, um, the, the main point

00:19:25.880 that we need to get out of Europe right now is they know it's over. They know that what they're doing

00:19:31.760 is not going to work. And as Marco Rubio said, we did it too. We were there. We're just changing

00:19:38.900 because of Donald Trump. We have woken up and we're changing and we have to do something different.

00:19:45.820 And that begins with remembering who you are. Okay. Let me, I'm going to come back to that point

00:19:51.400 here and say, just remember, remember who you are first. Let me, let me give you something. This is

00:19:55.940 from an MP in great Britain over the weekend. He posted on X and he launched the, uh, a new political

00:20:04.700 party. I want you to hear this cut one Rupert Lowe. I have chosen to speak to you today from the farm

00:20:10.720 because places like this represent what proper Britain is about. Hard work, responsibility,

00:20:18.920 effort, duty, stewardship. This is the England I know. And this is the England that I love on a farm.

00:20:27.980 You don't think in election cycles or headlines or polling. You think in seasons. You think in

00:20:35.100 generations, in what you leave behind to those who come after you. And that's why here on the farm,

00:20:41.900 I am now launching Restore Britain as a national political party. I'm now going to dedicate my life

00:20:48.820 to finding, organizing, funding, and providing hundreds of qualified candidates to present to

00:20:55.960 the British people at the next general election. This process has already started with invitations

00:21:02.120 being issued to Patriots in aligned political parties, reform, the Conservatives, the SDP,

00:21:09.620 advance, and more. The men and women standing for Restore in that election will not be politicians.

00:21:15.980 I promise you that they will not be failed ministers. They will not be tainted by failures of the past.

00:21:22.480 They will be from business, from the military, from science, from medicine, from education,

00:21:29.240 from industry, representing real communities up and down the country. Every single one will be from

00:21:37.300 well outside the existing political establishment. And every single one will understand the difficult

00:21:44.140 decisions that need to be taken. Because there are no easy fixes. I'm not going to tell you comforting

00:21:50.820 lies about the condition of our country. I have only ever been honest with the British people.

00:21:55.860 And I will be straight with you now. What is necessary will be incredibly painful. But for the first

00:22:02.940 time in a very long time, voters will have a genuine alternative, which is truthful with them about the

00:22:09.560 scale of what now has to be done.

00:22:11.540 Okay, so this is a guy who, he led the inquiry into the Pakistani rape game, rape gangs, which

00:22:23.440 failed spectacularly. I mean, I don't know how you're a politician and you vote against an inquiry

00:22:28.520 into the rape gangs, but they did it in overwhelming numbers. And so he's had enough. This is coming.

00:22:37.580 I got to tell you, um, I really think, uh, with everything, the way it is going now with the

00:22:46.700 justice department and if Congress fails on the save act, you're going to start to see this kind

00:22:52.380 of thing happening in America. You're going to say, I'm done with the demo of the Republicans

00:22:57.200 done with the Democrats, but done with the Republicans get the same old crap every time. And you're going 0.99

00:23:02.140 to see people like him saying, I will finance and it'll probably be Elon Musk. And, uh, good luck

00:23:08.140 with that Republicans, you know, vote against the save act at your own peril. Okay. I've got a couple

00:23:15.680 of examples of what is happening over in Europe where this kind of thing is taking, uh, is taking hold

00:23:21.340 now. Okay. What Rubio was talking about, um, this weekend was this system has failed and Donald Trump

00:23:35.520 is going a completely different direction and we will lead the way, at least for our people. And we would

00:23:41.880 love to have you join us in this, but you have to restore common sense. You cannot keep doing the same

00:23:49.180 thing over and over again. This system doesn't work. And we all know it just, we're the first ones to

00:23:55.440 admit it. It doesn't work. So what do you do? I mean, have you ever worked for a failing company?

00:24:07.920 Have you ever worked for, I remember I was 18 years old and I worked for WPGC and it was one of the

00:24:16.440 first real top 40 radio stations in the country. It was the one that financed the Beatles to come

00:24:22.180 over for the Ed Sullivan show. And the deal was come over for the Ed Sullivan show. And then you

00:24:27.660 come down and do a concert in Washington, DC for us at WPGC. They led the way on rock and roll for

00:24:34.280 forever. I mean, I remember I was going through the archives, I'm 18 years old and they put me in

00:24:39.260 charge of the archives. And I go through the archives and I find this picture of John, Paul,

00:24:47.660 George, and Ringo in WPGC t-shirts. I have never seen a picture of the Beatles in a radio station

00:24:56.300 t-shirt before. And I was brought in as the, as the station was starting to fail. And so I was part

00:25:04.560 of the team and we used to talk about it in the hallways. We're going to be remembered as the,

00:25:08.760 this, the team that was the demise of this great radio station. And I hated it, hated it. And no

00:25:16.740 one would listen to reason and, and restore. WPGC is still in Washington, DC. It's a success again,

00:25:24.660 but it's not a top 40 station and it's, but you know, it was a success. Um, if you've ever worked

00:25:31.080 for a company going down, you know, there are many options in front of you, you can give up and give

00:25:39.700 in and you get to say, let it go. Doesn't matter. Let it go. I'm not one of those people because I

00:25:48.660 like history. I know what history means. Um, and when it comes to Western civilization,

00:25:56.080 how could you make the case that it's worth letting go? You could only make a case if you've

00:26:03.500 been carefully taught that Western civilization means nothing except bad things. And you're

00:26:12.760 misinformed on that. And it's going to be a dangerous awakening when you finally get the real

00:26:18.920 news on what the Western civilization is. This is why I keep saying we're, we're already in world war

00:26:24.160 three. We're fighting world war three. You just don't know it yet. Islam is on the move and what 1.00

00:26:30.020 is their target? Western civilization. You take down Western civilization and they occupy those countries, 0.97

00:26:40.280 which they've been trying to do for thousand plus years. They occupy those countries. They now a have 0.55

00:26:47.120 nuclear weapons. And if they occupy those countries, you no longer have what built us.

00:26:57.980 You no longer have where we all came from. You no longer have the memory because the memory will be

00:27:05.300 erased. So you can, you can work for a company and you have a choice. You're going to go for the

00:27:12.420 hostile takeover and they'll sell off all the parts. You can come up with a, this is what WPGC did a whole

00:27:20.540 new plan. They were like, okay, we're not that anymore. We don't care about that history. And they,

00:27:24.780 they worked hard to erase the history of who they were and they eventually were successful, but they

00:27:31.600 aren't what they were. And you know, maybe that doesn't matter when it comes to a radio station,

00:27:35.520 but it does when it comes to a culture or you can see the writing on the wall and you can go, okay,

00:27:45.320 what we are is really, really important. And I see the future. We're going to keep doing what we do

00:27:53.720 best, but we will adapt to the new realities. And so you restart the company. You have the same

00:28:01.220 company, same goals, but you're achieving them in different ways. And let me give you a real world

00:28:07.760 example. 1908, a company, a Fisher carriage. It makes wooden carriages. It makes the, you know,

00:28:17.360 everything back then, the horse, you know, and buggy and the, and the carriage for the car, you know,

00:28:22.960 early on the cars, they were all wooden and then they would slap some metal on top of them,

00:28:28.620 but there was a wooden frame underneath. And that's what Fisher carriage did. Fisher carriage

00:28:34.080 made the greatest suspension and carriages in America. They saw what was coming and that is the

00:28:44.000 automobile and started making wooden carriages and they made good wooden carriages by 19. Let me look

00:28:50.580 this. A 19, uh, 10, they were known as the, uh, carriage company to make wooden cars, but they saw

00:29:02.400 what was coming and they realized we have to get into steel by 19, 19 GM comes in Fisher carriages,

00:29:13.480 the important part of the car, not the engine, just the rest of the car. They have a choice.

00:29:20.280 We can either just keep doing what we've been doing, make carriages for, you know, horses and

00:29:26.520 everything else, but we believe the car is the future. And we, they had slowly retooled what they

00:29:32.980 had been doing. And by 1920, 1919, they're purchased by, uh, GM now GM, because they had strategically made

00:29:45.020 partnerships. They saw the future. They saw that it was cards. So they made strategic partnerships.

00:29:50.980 They were going to build the, the carriages for, um, uh, for Cadillac. They were going to be making

00:29:57.780 all of the carriages for all of the different companies under the GM label. Now that was kind

00:30:03.320 of scary because you're going up against Ford, but Ford wasn't changing. He wasn't willing to change

00:30:10.540 care of Fisher carriages, willing to change. When I was growing up, you would open the door

00:30:17.200 of a Cadillac or anything, any card made by GM, you would open the door and there would be a little

00:30:21.980 plate and it was a little blue belt plate. And it had, it had a horse and, and, and carriage logo

00:30:28.740 on it. Just had that carriage. Like, you know, you see the, I don't know, the queen or the princess,

00:30:33.020 you know, going in, in a Disney movie, saw that. And it said underneath Fisher made a carriage or a

00:30:40.120 body made by Fisher. Okay. May I suggest that we understand that times have changed and we want our

00:30:52.200 country to survive. And we want the Western civilization to survive. And so we can't sit

00:31:00.400 here and say, we make horse and buggies. We make the buggies for the horse. And that's all we're ever

00:31:07.540 going to do. We see the world is changing and has changed and we adapt. So we don't lose who we are.

00:31:16.640 We do it in a different way. We do it in a better way, but we hold our values and what made us a

00:31:23.760 country in the first place. We don't throw everything out and we don't hold onto the crap 0.98

00:31:29.580 that, that doesn't work. Get rid of that crap. It's over. Those days are over. Great. What made us 1.00

00:31:39.340 a great country in the first place? Let's remember those things. Let's restore those things. And then

00:31:44.480 let's adapt those to today's issues and problems. I think that's what Rubio was saying. And he was

00:31:53.800 challenging Europe. And at the same time, he was reminding America, this is what Donald Trump is

00:32:01.500 challenging America to do as well. We're going to do it. Join us. That was the last part. Remember I

00:32:10.500 told you he had this great pattern. Start with a unifying memory, bring people together. Remember

00:32:15.600 what we were then state the problem. Here's the problem. It doesn't work anymore. Then state the

00:32:22.100 intent. We want to preserve Western civilization. The next step was invite them to join. And we don't

00:32:30.760 want to do it alone. We want to do it with you because we're family. Invoke the memory again.

00:32:37.780 We came from you. And then the last step was show the promise that the goal will accomplish.

00:32:48.540 If we do this and do this together, we will be stronger. We will preserve Western civilization,

00:32:55.240 but it will work so much easier and so much better if we do it together.

00:33:01.000 You're listening to the best of Glenn Beck. Need a little more? Check out the full show

00:33:05.820 podcasts anywhere you download podcasts. Man, I'm so excited to have our next guest on.

00:33:10.720 Kelsey Sharon is somebody. She's a Canadian combat veteran. She was a former artillery gunner,

00:33:18.820 a female searcher. She served right alongside the Americans and the British in Afghanistan in 2009.

00:33:25.180 Uh, it took a physical and mental toll on her diagnosed with PTSD and traumatic brain injury.

00:33:31.760 She rebuilt her entire life through therapy and entrepreneurship. Uh, and she is on this mission

00:33:38.260 to, uh, to help, uh, bring to attention death, uh, and the, the silent epidemic of our, our veteran

00:33:48.340 suicide. I wanted to get her on as I just saw her in an interview. Oh, I don't remember who it was.

00:33:54.320 Um, but she was, uh, talking about the maid program up in Canada and going through some of the details,

00:34:01.000 you know, they just did this study on how much will, how much will Canada, Canada save if they

00:34:05.660 just kill people instead of giving them palliative care? Oh my gosh, $1.27 trillion. Okay. That's a 0.63

00:34:13.620 horrifying, uh, stat and horrifying that anybody was like, how much can we say by killing people who

00:34:19.700 are going to die anyway? I mean, I read about that in history books. It didn't end well,

00:34:24.940 Kelsey is here with us now. Hi, Kelsey. How are you? Hi Glenn. Nice to meet you. Thanks for having

00:34:29.080 me. You bet. You bet. So can you go through this? I mean, how did they even get to the point to where

00:34:34.300 they're like, yeah, we can save a whole lot of, uh, a buttload of money if we start killing people.

00:34:40.040 Well, I mean, that's what happens when you have a liberal government for over 10 years that has told

00:34:44.600 you for a very long time since the seventies and his father's own documents, the Trudeau Federation

00:34:49.520 foundation that they wanted to roll out assisted dying in Canada. They want it to be more like

00:34:54.020 Denmark. They want it to be more like Europe, a more progressive country that utilizes, you know,

00:34:59.140 choice and compassion and dignity. And they use all of these really wonderful keywords that,

00:35:04.860 you know, people grab onto and for solace when their loved ones are passing away. And frankly,

00:35:10.600 Canada is like the least of our problems at this point. America's slow rolling this,

00:35:14.720 like I've never seen before, but Canada itself. Yeah. Canada itself has been toying with this

00:35:20.420 since, you know, well in the nineties when dying with dignity really started to come to fruition.

00:35:24.780 And then ultimately in 2016, when a pro-death cult called dying with dignity had over $9 million and

00:35:31.880 decided to challenge the Supreme court and actually won in the Carter versus Canada case. And that's when

00:35:37.480 killing began. So you're right about the United States and I'm, I'm so concerned about what we're

00:35:43.360 teaching our doctors and our nurses and our medical schools and state after state starting to roll

00:35:48.720 this out just like Canada. And what a surprise it's the most progressive States, uh, in America.

00:35:54.340 Um, not necessarily though, that's where most people are very wrong. It's a lot of red States 0.99

00:35:59.300 are actually rolling this out. And a lot of Republicans in places like Montana have voted for this.

00:36:05.380 You know, my job isn't to, you know, just teach people about what's going on. It's to raise the alarm

00:36:10.900 so that you guys can stop it dead in its tracks. And right now you guys have 14 States and are

00:36:16.340 rolling at another 18 this year. And, uh, we have the list of those with bills on the table. We know

00:36:21.600 who's doing it and we know who's promoting it in America. And it all starts with compassionate

00:36:25.880 choices and the Rabin group who ironically work alongside the Bill Gates foundation and the Obama

00:36:31.500 foundation. And we actually got their marching orders for this year to 2028. And by 2028, uh, over 50%

00:36:38.260 of the American population will live in States where made is available. And you don't have 0.85

00:36:42.200 residency requirements in Vermont or Oregon, which means you have death tourism coming.

00:36:49.660 Well, you're a ray of sunshine.

00:36:51.820 And this is why people love having me Glenn.

00:36:54.580 No, I know. No, I know. It's, it is. You were, you, you state the facts and it was,

00:37:00.120 yeah, that's why I asked you to get on. It's just so sorry.

00:37:03.580 How do you stop this? How do you stop this? It is so well funded, so well planned. Um, and people,

00:37:10.480 they don't, they don't get it. I mean, this is what happens in history over and over again. You

00:37:15.100 don't get it until it's too late. And you're like, what they've been telling you the whole time. If

00:37:19.600 there is, if there is some sort of shortage of medical care, then rationing has to start. And what

00:37:25.380 do you think that means? It means this. And what do you think a shortage is like? We'll never have

00:37:29.520 shortages. We have shortages today. Yes, we do. We have shortages of nurses and doctors. Cause we

00:37:35.460 all fired them. You know, I don't know which words I can say here, so I'll be careful, but, um, we

00:37:39.740 have, you know, we fired them. FCC rules, but on that, you can say, you can say whatever you want.

00:37:44.620 So, yeah. So, you know, in Canada, we fired all of the nurses and doctors and firefighters

00:37:48.340 who refuse the vaccine, who had backbones in America, same sort of thing. And then we cry,

00:37:52.680 Oh my God, we have a shortage and hospitals have to close. And we just don't know why it's like,

00:37:57.540 you know, a lot of this isn't rocket science is to the average human, but I, you know, I really do

00:38:04.060 believe I put my life into this work for a reason. I have the largest podcast in the globe that covers

00:38:09.120 made daily. And so I try to bring it up in a way that's understanding to people that are not going

00:38:15.860 to be depressed. So I look at it this way, like we actually have the power. Americans actually have

00:38:20.700 the power. Canadian citizens have the power. We have to be willing to assert said power. And you don't

00:38:26.600 know how to assert power if you don't know what's happening. And so my job is to do the

00:38:32.560 investigative deep diving work with, I have great people, you know, Alex Schattenberg and a lot of

00:38:37.160 different people who have been studying this for 30, 40 years, who have become mentors of mine.

00:38:40.760 And I'm just really a, I'm just really a vessel and a voice for this, for this issue. And it's

00:38:45.760 really because they started offering it to veterans. And those veterans happen to be friends of mine who

00:38:50.780 called in 2019 and 2021. So, you know, in Canada, this spring, we're about to hit our 100,000th

00:38:58.060 death. We are expanding to the mentally ill in March of 2027. And then I put an episode out today 0.58

00:39:04.400 on the Kelsey Sharon perspective, where I was able to show that Sick Kids Hospital, the greatest,

00:39:09.620 biggest hospital for children in Canada, actually went into parliament arguing that we should be killing

00:39:14.420 mature minors in 2023. And that means children down to zero to one. And that's what Quebec is 0.63

00:39:20.720 arguing right now. Now, I'm careful to state that, of course, there's levels to Canada. And this is

00:39:26.600 what happens when you allow death. And that was the Jillian Michaels interview, she brought me in to

00:39:31.720 have a conversation about. And the reason it stood out to people was because Western University did a

00:39:36.640 study, and it was supposed to be, I mean, just make it very clear, because people love to correct me.

00:39:41.340 It was supposed to be an if situation, Glenn. This is an if situation. But here's what happens

00:39:47.280 with if really quickly. When you allow death to walk through the door, you don't get to decide how

00:39:51.720 it's amended. Now, Canada funds dying with dignity, dying with dignity challenges the Supreme Court

00:39:57.800 they have over, we saw their financials from last year over $9 million. They make over $700,000

00:40:02.900 in investment in just like the turnaround alone. Now for America, compassion and choices is your death

00:40:08.800 cult, right? These are the guys who lobby all of your governments, who are in DC, who are in

00:40:13.620 Washington, who are in Florida and Arizona, talking to all your senators. And then they've hired

00:40:19.480 quietly the Rabin Group. And the Rabin Group, people should really be paying attention to because

00:40:24.140 this is your, this is your social elite. These are the ones going around slow dripping the mentality

00:40:30.640 to the elderly and to everyone that, you know what, it's a peaceful death. But the longer I do this

00:40:35.800 work, the more evidence I find that it's not peaceful, we actually paralyze you and drown

00:40:39.760 you to death. And that's Dr. Joel's of its work I spoke about on Jordan Peterson. So, you know,

00:40:44.280 this isn't, this isn't small, this is eugenics, you guys don't even allow the death penalty in 0.95

00:40:49.100 certain states, but you'll allow your loved one to drink a cup of poison and have a death potentially

00:40:53.720 up to 137 hours. So we have to stop pretending that this is compassion and dignity and empathy.

00:41:00.180 It never has been. It's called eugenics. It's rolled its way back around because we forgot what

00:41:05.460 history looks like. And now Canada has killed the most people. I mean, like I said, 100,000 people 0.96

00:41:11.560 in a decade. That's an entire town. That's an entire village. And these aren't elderly. Glenn,

00:41:17.400 these are not elderly people. We have Keanu's case, you have Kayla Pollack, who you spoke to,

00:41:22.280 you have Roger Foley, we have case of coercion after coercion after coercion. And the problem is,

00:41:28.700 in my opinion, Canada's too far gone because they're so infiltrated. But America has a real

00:41:34.440 chance here. You know, I've been speaking with Alex Jones recently a lot about this, trying to get

00:41:40.000 to people like RFK and Donald Trump to understand that I spoke with your United States State Department

00:41:45.440 and they were not even aware there were bills on the table to legalize this. And they're even looking

00:41:51.940 at revamping the Pachetta bill in America because Bill, you know, Bill Clinton said, we can't be

00:41:58.760 funding, you know, anything assisted death. So then what the death lobby has done is change the

00:42:05.060 language. So it's not assisted death anymore, Glenn. It's end of life care. So if you change the term,

00:42:12.240 they can get the bill passed. And now I found evidence of them targeting Veterans Affairs America

00:42:16.680 once the Pachetta bill is back in place. Have you ever read War on the Week? The book by Edwin

00:42:24.140 Black? No, I have not. It outlines, oh, you need to talk to Edwin Black. He is the best. But he did

00:42:33.560 extensive research on, you know, eugenics and how it killed all the week and how it was all perpetrated, 0.82

00:42:40.660 how it was done. It is a book of just solid documentation of what happened in the past.

00:42:46.680 And if you know all of that, you see this unfolding and you're like, it's happening again.

00:42:53.120 It's, you know, Hugo Boss designed the black SS officers outfits. Okay. It doesn't come in

00:43:02.180 looking scary. We think of those black SS uniforms as scary. They didn't at the time they were sharp.

00:43:08.460 They were beautiful. It was Hugo Boss. And, and it comes in and it screams compassion. The black 0.98

00:43:16.180 uniforms were not as frightening as the white uniforms of the doctors and the nurses in the

00:43:20.480 1930s and forties in Germany. And we're doing the same thing and they're doing it exactly the same way.

00:43:27.620 Yeah. Why do we not learn? Well, we don't learn because this is money talks and power is power,

00:43:33.880 right? And so the thing we figured out is that, you know, the beautiful gold standard healthcare

00:43:38.460 system in the communist country I live in is actually, you know, 20,000 people die a year on the

00:43:43.980 healthcare waiting lists. Uh, we have over one point, uh, over a million people walking out of

00:43:48.200 ERs because they can't see a doctor. We have no doctors. We cannot get dental care. We're overrun

00:43:53.040 by immigration and they don't have to pay for, for, um, for hospitals or anything along those lines.

00:43:59.220 So people like myself who come from actually a family who escaped the Nazis in Hungary and came to

00:44:05.280 Canada, worked their way up. We don't, we can't have that conversation because I look white now,

00:44:10.680 don't I? So we can't have that conversation, but we can for sure allow the Trudeau government from

00:44:15.680 2015 and 16 upwards to institute this program where ironically, just ironically though, Glenn, 96%

00:44:25.440 of the people using this program are white. And so if you look at America, 95% of the people that

00:44:33.880 have used that program are also white. And so it's, it's, people can say this is a race thing,

00:44:39.200 but it's a cost saving thing. So this study I was bringing up, it was an if situation and they were

00:44:44.700 just running basic numbers. And they were saying, look, if we kept expanding the law, which by the

00:44:50.640 way, we already are. So that's not an if anymore to me. If we keep expanding the law, then what we

00:44:55.700 will see eventually is a savings of over a trillion dollars. Now, just as the law sits today in February

00:45:01.200 16th, it's already saved $117 billion by not providing palliative care or hospice. So is it,

00:45:09.680 let me ask you, cause this is the question people don't get. Is it really free will or choice if

00:45:13.860 their only choice is death? No, it's, it's not free. It's not free will. I mean, uh, you know,

00:45:21.860 and you're the killer, the, uh, the shooter up in Canada recently, I read his words and he was,

00:45:29.560 you know, a few years ago, he's like, I just, I'd rather die than wait. I can't wait for this

00:45:33.940 healthcare system anymore. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait. I'd just rather die.

00:45:37.500 If he had made, he would have, he would have been killed. Now, some people will say, well, 0.99

00:45:42.360 that would have been better. That's not the choice. That's not the choice. It's a false choice.

00:45:48.580 Well, and that's where we're at. I mean, I've had 23 operations now and every,

00:45:53.140 almost the majority of them, I've had to go to a mentor of mine, Gabby Reese. So she could call an

00:45:58.140 athlete's team who could call somebody else to get surgery for me because you'll die on a waiting

00:46:02.540 list here. And that's the reality. I'm not being emotive or facetious at all. I go to America for

00:46:07.300 the majority of my treatment. My brain treatment was done in Texas and it was donated by American

00:46:12.080 donors to defenders of freedom. I have gone through significant amounts of, uh, psychedelic

00:46:17.520 treatment through heroic hearts project, who again is American funded. But at the same time,

00:46:22.120 speaking of the shooter, the very male shooter, should we say, I'm a psychedelic integration

00:46:27.540 specialist and I've been on the pharmacology cocktail. This guy was on. And I got to tell

00:46:32.000 you when you combine those with psychedelics and then you don't have any proper care, you know,

00:46:37.780 you're going to get a psychosis. You're going to get these situations. And so we, you know,

00:46:42.640 we just had a case in Ontario where a guy actually won the right for the government to pay for his new 0.99

00:46:48.340 vagina because he wanted to transition so badly. You know, we have to stop affirming mental illness, 1.00

00:46:54.060 which is the first part. And then in 2027, which is really terrifying and people should pay attention

00:47:00.780 to this. If you are Canadian or American, because it starts at track one and then it makes its way

00:47:04.820 down. So in 2027, it's when you are allowed to be killed. I say murder. So I know it's aggressive, 0.96

00:47:11.620 but I believe this is murder. Your doctor's allowed to murder you in 2027 if you have a mental 0.98

00:47:16.780 illness only. So that's depression. That's PTSD. That's major depressive disorder. That's 0.97

00:47:23.700 postpartum mummies. You know, I'm pregnant right now. I'm almost seven months pregnant. And I went

00:47:28.080 through postpartum with my last child. I can't imagine if I was having a hard time going into an

00:47:33.340 ER saying, I need help. Can you help me protect me from myself? And we had a case of this. I talked

00:47:38.860 about it on trigonometry where the nurse said, you know what? How about maid? And this was a lady asking

00:47:43.920 and screaming, please, I don't want to kill myself, but I feel like I might. And she put

00:47:48.820 her hand on her lap and said, have you heard of maid? So this is a coercion program. This doesn't 1.00

00:47:53.780 stay at grandmas and grandpas with ALS, like, you know, Governor Kathy Hogel started with. It

00:47:59.640 doesn't work that way. It goes from there and it trickles down. And now Quebec is suggesting

00:48:04.840 children from zero to one.

00:48:06.400 Kelsey, I would love to have you on for a longer period of time. I'd love to have you

00:48:10.900 in a podcast. You keep doing the good work. You're doing God's work. Thank you so much.

00:48:15.040 God bless you.

00:48:15.560 Thanks for having me, guys.

00:48:16.580 You bet. The Kelsey Sheeran perspective, you can find her at KelseySheeran.com.

00:48:23.060 Some say the bubbles in an arrow truffle piece can take 34 seconds to melt in your mouth.

00:48:31.120 Sometimes the very amount you're stuck at the same red light.

00:48:34.780 Rich, creamy, chocolatey arrow truffle. Feel the arrow bubbles melt. It's mind bubbling.

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