00:22:48.920OK, so so so, Kevin, because this is I've been talking about this one in Utah and I understand the people of Utah and I understand what they're worried about.
00:22:57.240And quite honestly, I am, too. But I you know, I said there is a solution to these things and you just gave part of that solution.
00:23:05.640And that is you have to build your own power. And and I said, you know, negotiate with these companies and say, look, you want the data center.
00:23:14.300great you bring in your own power but we also want x percentage of power put in here and we
00:23:21.300don't want to be charged for any infrastructure that is is revolves around anything to do with
00:23:27.620this data center you're you have to bring this asset to the community you have to say this we're
00:23:34.300going to help the community because you're not going to really be creating jobs long term uh so
00:23:40.200what are you going to create power hold on bubble louie not so fast on the jobs not so long term
00:23:46.520the job let me give you the numbers 4 000 construction jobs just for the first phase
00:23:51.1602 000 permanent jobs to maintain it and those are engineering and support jobs very high paying
00:23:56.280not true about the jobs that's a lot of jobs that's a lot of jobs including all of the additional
00:24:02.280stuff we have to do for the community which no one's been talking about new fire trucks we got
00:24:07.320to provide hotels to put these construction workers in for two years we got to have permanent
00:24:13.240you know support for schooling there's so much stuff we're going to give back to the community
00:24:17.400just to make sure our data center we have we have to employ we have to find these people to employ
00:24:22.760them thank goodness utah is highly educated workforce north of grumman is just a few miles
00:24:28.440away the hill air force base i got jobs my friend i got a lot of jobs a lot of jobs and i need
00:27:41.760So, um, Kevin, how do you generate, what kind of power generation are you using?
00:27:47.740Because, I mean, doesn't it always come back down to you've got to make steam, that steam pushes then a turbine, and then you can generate?
00:27:55.820I mean, no matter what it is, it usually uses steam, doesn't it?
00:28:00.180What are you going to use to make power?
00:28:04.380Think about you're one of the tenants, which I have to negotiate with, the hyperscalers, the SpaceX, the Microsoft, the Google, whoever it is.
00:28:13.140Let's just take Box Elder County, because we're talking about Utah.
00:28:15.680So every single person, I'm going to guess, in Box Elder County, you know, everyone has
00:30:33.180democratic socialist america it has a governing board it's called the national political committee
00:30:39.980after the 2025 national convention the far-left news aggregator not a conservative
00:30:46.860outfit the manhattan or the manhattan institute um but one of theirs did a count on that board
00:30:54.260and published the count how many communists are on the board after the 2025 national convention
00:31:01.760how many in the democratic socialists are actual communists
00:31:07.50051.9 percent are actual self-avowed communists 14.8 percent are middle between socialists and
00:31:20.440communists and 33 percent are what are called reformists what does that mean i have no idea
00:31:27.240they didn't publish this as a warning okay they published this as a scoreboard and on the 4th of
00:31:34.460july on america's 250th birthday the dsa announced it had passed 120 000 members and they put that
00:31:41.080out with pride they noted correctly that this makes them the largest socialist organization
00:31:46.940in the history of the united states that's bigger than when eugene debs started the socialist party
00:31:53.180back in 1912 that was the peak of it it's bigger than the communist party usa have has ever been
00:31:59.060even in 1947 when stalin still had friends in hollywood and and and russia was an ally okay
00:32:07.00010 years ago they had 6 000 people 6 000 that's a decent high school now in in major cities
00:32:15.720now it's a now it's 120 let me show you where this organization came from because the story
00:32:25.260is not what the what what you think it is and what anybody in the media is ever going to tell
00:32:29.920you the man who founded it would be sick to his stomach today his name was michael harrington
00:32:36.220in 1962 michael harrington wrote a book called the other america ricky get that get have the
00:32:43.600library get me a copy original copy of that book would you the the other america it's about the
00:32:49.920invisible poor john kennedy read it and helped him kick off the war on poverty okay from the other
00:32:58.100america and michael harrington harrington was a socialist but he was also and this is a part that
00:33:05.020nobody will tell you he was also a ferocious anti-communist he believed that the soviet union
00:33:13.000was a lie and a prison and he believed the american left had to say so out loud every time
00:33:21.680without a single word of hedging because he did believe that there was a difference between
00:33:26.240socialism and communism and he made that very clear so the same year 1962 a group of students
00:33:35.320meet at the UAW retreat in Port Huron, Wisconsin, and they write a manifesto. Students for a
00:33:45.160democratic society, SDS. This is where the old chalkboards come in from 2008. Tom Hayden held
00:33:52.980the pin there. And SDS at that point was still under the wing of the older labor socialist outfit
00:33:59.600that had one rule one rule and it was an exclusion clause that exclusion clause and they the teachers
00:34:07.600union in california had it up until 2008 they excluded one group you could not join if you
00:34:15.180were or ever had been or are a communist now that rule existed because the men who wrote it
00:34:23.440had watched the communist hollow out one organization after another in the 30s and they
00:34:28.780had learned you let a communist in and they're just going to devour you so harrington reads the
00:34:36.100port huron statement and he goes to war not over you know economics over just one thing the kids
00:34:43.260refused to condemn the soviet union without qualification they wanted they wanted to be in
00:34:51.060the phrase of the era, anti-anti-communists. They thought the exclusion clause was a relic. It was
00:34:59.280something, you know, a loyalty oath. And it was embarrassing. Only something our fathers worried
00:35:05.000about with McCarthy. And Harrington is like, no, you don't understand. You don't know history. I
00:35:10.960fought these people. So he fought these people with SDS and he lost. And he later said, I handled
00:35:17.760it really really badly but in 1965 sds took the exclusion clause out of its constitution now
00:35:24.960here's what happened next because you're watching the exact same real play again today with the door
00:35:33.320open now to communists a maoist outfit called progressive labor walked into sds and started
00:35:41.200taking it over from the inside remember this is a maoist communist group but they named themselves
00:35:49.020progressive labor why because that's what communists always do they took this thing over
00:35:55.820chapter by chapter and caucus by caucus exactly what's happening with the democrats by the summer
00:36:01.960of 1969 the national convention in chicago blew apart what came out the other side was no longer
00:36:08.900a student group okay sds as i taught you on the chalkboards a year ago was now the weatherman
00:36:15.040the days of rage that came that october in march of 1970 a townhouse in greenwich village
00:36:24.540blew up because the people inside all former sds members all part of the weather underground now
00:36:31.460were building nail bombs and they didn't know what they were doing a bomb goes off and three
00:36:38.200of them die that's the arc from a manifesto about participatory democracy to getting rid of the
00:36:49.440exclusion clause no communists to a nail bomb all in seven years okay the hinge here the only hinge
00:36:57.720on this was the day they removed the rule that kept out the communists they thought they were
00:37:03.840just removing a relic but they were removing a wall an important wall and michael harrington
00:37:10.200spent the rest of his life building an organization that would never make that mistake
00:37:14.480in 1982 he merged his group with another group called the democratic socialist of america
00:37:22.960and the dsa carried in its bones a ban on something called democratic centralism
00:37:30.020What the hell is that? Well, if you know anything about Lenin, it's a Leninist rule that you fight behind closed doors and then present one face to the public, one line, one voice, no dissent.
00:37:46.520harrington's people said uh no we're not doing that it was in the words of a dsa member
00:37:53.720a holdover from the group's anti-communist period and a ward against entreatism
00:38:02.420what the hell does that mean you know one reason i hate communists is they make me learn a whole
00:38:07.660new language okay what the award against entry it is award like a charm you hang on the door0.98
00:38:15.2002025 national convention the dsa repealed this ward again okay now entry entryism what the hell
00:38:26.680is that strotsky 1934 he he told his followers in france to dissolve their little party and walk
00:38:35.740into the big socialist party not to join it but to eat it from the youth wing outward
00:38:43.160it has a name in the trade because it works and it's worked here before and the people doing it
00:38:50.580right now are not even being coy about it there's a caucus inside the dsa that published an essay
00:38:56.840titled communists belong in the dsa i'm telling you gang you might be a socialist and go no no
00:39:04.460it's socialism we don't want anything to do with communism i don't think there's that many people
00:39:08.580fighting against it honestly but if there are that's you it's already written it's already done
00:39:14.280okay you took away you took away the ban on communism a couple of dsa guys went on a podcast
00:39:22.040recently and they explained that the organization is the most fruitful ground they've got because
00:39:26.480the members there are open to the most radical position in the room that's not my characterization0.92
00:39:34.180that's their characterization that's a recruiting pitch set out loud in a microphone you're crazy
00:39:41.920you want to do you want communism come on in we'll listen to you
00:39:45.420and when it comes to running the place don't listen to the press don't listen to me
00:39:51.420let the votes tell you there's a maoist in the dsa who goes by black red guard whose caucus put
00:40:00.040out a statement supporting the man accused of gunning down two israeli embassy staffers
00:40:05.640remember the male and female that were killed they were going to be married okay outside of
00:40:11.200a museum in washington dc black red guard in the dsa puts out a statement supporting that guy
00:40:19.200he got himself elected to something the dsa calls it's red rabbits security commission
00:40:25.500so let me let me focus this here for you a member of the national board removed moved to remove this
00:40:33.980guy the motion failed 15 to 10 10 people out of 25 thought a caucus that celebrates an assassin
00:40:43.440should not be running their security only 10
00:40:49.760last month the marxist unity group put out an amendment to the dsa's national program it
00:40:57.300passed 12 to 11 what does that say listen to this you think they don't want to change the
00:41:03.780united states fundamentally get away from the constitution and the declaration this is what
00:41:08.860they just passed that the presidency and the supreme court of the united states should be