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On today's show, Glenn Beck is joined by Alex in New York to talk about solar farm issues, and Lee Strobel joins the show to make the case for Christmas. Glenn also provides an update on the situation in Venezuela, and answers some listener questions.
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I want to talk to you about whatever it is you want to discuss.
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So I'm calling in from upstate New York, where we definitely have a situation on our hands
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here with the solar farms that our governor is pushing very, very hard.
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They are absolutely using it as a land grab to take our best farmland.
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And in the case of near my farm here, they're trying to put in a solar farm on a protected
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grassland habitat that New York state already designated as an important habitat, except
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I meet with a coalition of people across the state, really amazing people who are battling
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this in every village in upstate New York right now.
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And we definitely have a situation on our hands.
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I don't know how you fight it in New York, but just keep fighting because there are there
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are communities around the country that are fighting things like this that are winning.
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I don't know about New York, but we've got to have our farmland.
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It absolutely kills me that the people could not have nuclear energy.
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But the minute big tech needs nuclear energy, oh, they can build them.
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I want to talk to you about energy on something else.
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And as a man who has spent maybe a million, million and a half dollars on alternative energy
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for a ranch I have up in the mountains that has no power to it, and over a 10 or 12 year
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You know, running my studio, just my studio alone has been an absolute nightmare in there.
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It might be good for a little add on, you know, if you live in Phoenix, you know, or I don't know,
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Um, but just the other day, do we happen to have the clip from the prediction show where
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I made a prediction, uh, of what was coming next year on energy?
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I think in 2026, 2025 was the year, as I said, that we started really understanding AI and
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And we understood, Oh, energy is going to be a problem.
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I think 2026 is going to be the first year that we see things like Texas having rolling
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I think you're going to start to see the, the strain on the grid, um, by the end of,
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of next year in ways that you would never have expected in the United States.
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I think I said that on Wednesday show, we had a prediction show of what, what the biggest
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And when I said that, I'm like, you know, at the end of next year, let me give you this
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from the associated press today, the amount of air cuts, large load interconnection requests
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ballooned to more than three, 230 gigawatts this year.
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Um, a massive increase now, last year, December, 2024, air caught needed 63 gigawatts a year
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later, this December, the load that is required is 230 gigawatts.
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That's a lot more than they needed to go back to the future.
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Uh, this, you're going to see the grids are not built for this more than 70% of the large
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The data centers are just beginning to be built.
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And I'm telling you, this is going to be the Achilles heel of this administration.
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Um, and believe me, it will only be worse with the democratic administration.
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This is going to be the Achilles heel because we can't build these power plants fast enough.
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And, and while Donald Trump is fast tracking these nuclear power plants, it's not fast enough
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because as we build these data centers, what's going to happen is your energy.
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You're going to start to have rolling brownouts also because of these data centers.
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You're also going to see the unemployment go up.
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If you start to have high unemployment, high prices and rolling brownouts to where you're
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having a hard time with electricity yourself, but the data centers for the Silicon Valley
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I'm telling you the Bubba effect is just the beginning.
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This will be an absolute nightmare for all politicians.
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They were like, Hey, you want to be on a prediction show?
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You'll be squaring off against the guy that predicted Osama bin Laden, the financial crisis,
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I didn't know it was going to happen that quick, but like two days later,
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two days later and it comes, I mean, I mean, Texas is look, Texas is in trouble.
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Um, uh, you know, and as goes Texas, so goes America, so goes America, so goes the world.
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Texas has got to get serious about, and, and I know they are to some degree, but the president
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has got to get rid of all of these restrictions and Texas has to get all of these, and we have
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to concentrate on electricity and not just electricity for the average homes, uh, or I mean for these
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data centers, but for the average homes, the grids are already under strain.
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They're, they're not, you know, the problem is if they start taking this electricity out
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of, off of the grid, the old grid, you can't pour more electricity into that grid.
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They're, they're not prepared for what we have to do.
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That's why they have to build these nuclear power plants at the, uh, server farms because
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they, they cannot go on to the system because the system can't handle that much power.
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We are in real trouble and everybody is still talking about solar power and everything else.
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We got, I'm sorry, you hit really hard at the beginning.
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People have got to wake up to between now and 2028.
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If you've listened to me for a long time and you heard me say, I'm telling you, we're going
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to have a financial meltdown and it is going to be the worst, you know, it's going to,
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it's going to, you know, you'll lose your 401k.
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I was saying that in 2006, 2007, and no one was listening.
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A lot of the listeners were listening and they saved their money and got it out in time.
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I'm telling you now with just as much surety in this, the world is going to change in such
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profound ways, uh, between now and 2028 in ways you cannot even imagine at this point
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that you have to be, forget your money, forget everything else.
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You have to be rock solid in who you are, what it means to be human, what it means to
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be alive, what's important, what's not important.
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I'm telling you, this is why in those last week I've spent more time on that woman in,
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in Canada than I have on really important things that are happening politically because
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the most important thing we can do is realign ourselves with truth, universal truth.
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Don't go down the road of madness with the rest of society because right now these gigantic
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corporations, uh, you know, in Silicon Valley, they are promising us the only way out, listen
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to me carefully, the only way out to pay off our debt or to survive our debt is to have
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something that takes our country and pushes it, our GDP up, you know, by 10 points.
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All of a sudden, if that happens, then we're starting to make more income tax revenue and
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We can afford the things that we've already, you know, spent money on.
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If we don't have that, we're into, into a different bad scenario world.
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So they're promising us that, but at the same time, they're promising us, we can pay the debt.
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We can, we can lead the world on this, but we also are not going to have a lot of jobs.
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Oh, and by the way, to do that, we're also going to have to take energy and maybe for a
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while, take it from the people, people who can't afford food, don't have jobs, uh, don't
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Uh, that doesn't lead to any place good at all.
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Please, please pay attention to those things that are meaningful.
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One of the most meaningful gifts you can give this time of year is real peace of mind.
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Knowing that the people you love have a way to protect themselves as something unexpected
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or frightening happens, uh, and the world's going to get more dicey.
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The burner launcher, it's a non-lethal personal safety device that uses compressed air to
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fire chemical irritant projectiles without, without killing anybody, but serious stopping
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power, giving you options without taking a life.
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It's legal in all 50 States, no permits or background checks required anywhere.
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You know, one of the things I, first of all, I got this yet last Christmas for all of my
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I said, if you're, you're going on a campus, I want you to have it in your backpack.
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You have it in your car, you have it in your purse, you carry it concealed.
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Uh, and it's given me as a dad, a lot of peace of mind.
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Um, but I don't know why this isn't in every school.
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I mean, we say the left says, you know, I want to get rid of guns.
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Even if somebody in the classroom happened to take it from the teacher.
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But if you have a shooter come into the school and they've got a gun and they're killing people,
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you could just put your hand around the corner and just shoot in the direction and tear gas
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As I said, great Christmas gift, but I think every household should have it.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Um, I'm really excited to hear the case for, uh, Christmas.
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Now you were an atheist, uh, and, uh, you, and we've talked about this before your, your
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eyes opened up and how did you get to the place to where you're like, okay, let me see
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if I can make the case for the baby Jesus in the manger.
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Well, yeah, being an atheist, my wife became a Christian, so I decided to try to rescue
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her from this cult that she's gotten involved in.
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And so, uh, that launched me on an investigation into the historical reliability of Christianity.
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Uh, I did that for two years until I became convinced that in light of the evidence, it
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would take more faith to maintain my atheism than to become a Christian.
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So I became a Christian and ended up leaving journalism and so forth and written many books
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But I wanted to do a book on Christmas because in the Christmas season, there seems to be
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a more spiritual openness than any other time of the year.
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Even when I was an atheist, I felt more spiritually sensitive during the time of Christmas.
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Um, I don't know why, I guess it's because it permeates the culture.
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And, um, yeah, I think it's because we see, we see hope, we see goodness in one another.
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Uh, how do we know we can all enjoy the parties and the gift giving and so forth, but how do
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we know it's really based on historical reality?
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That's what really intrigues me as someone who's kind of a history buff.
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Well, we've, yeah, we've got two real early, uh, independent, uh, but consistent reports
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about the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem 2000 years ago.
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Uh, he was a companion of, uh, St. Paul and Luke said, he didn't say, well, I'm going
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to tell you about something that happened in the distant past once upon a time.
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He said, no, he said, I carefully investigated everything so I could write an orderly account
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So he's claiming I'm writing about what actually took place.
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If he didn't, I think he interviewed Susanna and Joanna who were friends of Mary, who he
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Uh, Matthew was, um, um, right there in the first century setting.
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He later became a leader in the church in Jerusalem.
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And one of the other leaders was a guy named James, who was the half brother of Jesus.
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So James, I think communicated to Matthew kind of the male, the guy's perspective of the
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And so here we've got, by the way, I was talking to a woman the other day and she has a young
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child night and she, I was talking to her about this and she said, yeah, you know, if
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you ask my husband, the story about the birth of our child and you ask me, you're going to
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You know, we're talking about the real situation.
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So we've got these two very early reports that are independent, that are consistent with
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And then we have a very interesting report in the gospel of Mark.
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Now, Mark is writing based on the recollections of Peter, who is one of the inner circle with
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But interestingly, in Mark 6, verse 3, he refers to Jesus as Mary's son.
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Now, in first century Jewish culture, you would never do that.
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Even if Joseph were already deceased, you would always refer to him as Joseph.
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I think there was a wink to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
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And then we have John, who writes the last gospel.
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He doesn't repeat a lot of the historical stuff in the first three gospels.
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He writes from a grand theological perspective about the incarnation.
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And then the word came into our world and dwelt among us.
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But interestingly, John had a disciple who he mentored.
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And in that letter, he says Jesus was, quote, really and truly born of a virgin.
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I think it was from John, who wrote the gospel of John.
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You know, when the gospels all say the same thing, it's pretty clear.
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But they can't even agree on the last words of Christ when he's on the cross.
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Should we be concerned that only two of the four gospels talk about the birth?
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Because, first of all, those are two solid sources historically and very early.
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Mark gives us a reference to the fact that Joseph was not the biological father.
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And he also portrays Jesus as being the unique son of God.
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And John, of course, was a theological take on the incarnation, is basically saying the same thing.
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And the differences in the gospels, I don't think are a problem either.
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Because, you know, as someone trained in law, if you're in a trial and the witnesses get up
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and they all say the exact same thing, you object and say, your honor, collusioned.
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They got together, they worked out the story, and you can't trust it.
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But when you have different perspectives, people emphasize different things.
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There's, for instance, a technique that was used in ancient literature that's used today
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And what that means is somebody will focus on what one person is saying or doing,
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and other people will focus on other people who are involved in the same scene.
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They're just focusing on different aspects of the same scene.
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I was going to say, when you look at the literary techniques that were used in the first century
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by other ancient writers like Plutarch and so forth, these historians,
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and you use those same literary techniques in writing the New Testament,
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these discrepancies between the Gospels virtually disappear.
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And I, you know, I believe in this story, but I want to push back as hard as I can on this.
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You know, the virgin birth is so hard for people to accept.
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And especially once you look at Greek mythology, you're like, this is the same story.
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This was invented by German theologians in the 1800s.
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In the early 1900s, the Christians responded to it and answered it and refuted it.
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But now it's come up again, I think, because the Internet has dredged up these old arguments.
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So, for instance, you've got the most famous example is Dan Brown in his book and movie The Da Vinci Code,
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where he says, oh, well, you know, Christian just copied all this stuff.
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He said there was an ancient myth called Mithras, and Mithras was born of a virgin on December the 25th.
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So, now Jesus is just kind of plagiarizing that that story of Jesus was invented by people and plagiarized from Mithras.
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Well, I investigate that, and what do you find?
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You find in the actual myth of Mithras, number one, he was not born of a virgin.
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The myth was he emerged fully grown, naked, wearing a hat out of a rock.
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I guess you could say the rock is a virgin, but, I mean, that's ridiculous.
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Ancient Christians did not care about birthdays.
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According to another version, he had two disciples.
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There is nothing in the myth about Mithras about him dying, and so nothing about a resurrection.
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So, all of these parallels, supposed parallels, disappear when you investigate what actually took place.
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You know, people say, oh, Alexander the Great, you know, there was a myth that he was conceived by Zeus, the god Zeus.
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Well, even Alexander the Great's own mother, Olympias, said it's not true.
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So, every one of these supposed myths that predated Christianity, none of them are parallels to the story of Jesus' birth in Bethlehem.
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I'm going to take a one-minute break, and then I want to ask you about the one word, one Greek word, that shed new light on the traditional Christmas story.
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The name of the book, and it makes a great Christmas gift, and then you should buy it now and read it yourself as well.
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The Case for Christmas, The Case for Christmas by Lee Strobel.
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We were talking to Tom in Florida, and you were about to tell us a story.
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Yeah, to kind of recap, the Breeders Digest, the parathyroid thing, very real.
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I shuttle those patients as far as them coming in to stay at one of the five hotels I shuttle, full-time action boards over time.
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I sold my home at 26 years, 36 years of Florida back in May, June.
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I went on a four-month lease out here at the beach until I figured out what I want to be when I grow up.
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What I did is this Canadian couple, he's got a shoulder issue, black and blue all the way up and down.
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Emergency to the Canadian government to get this thing.
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I don't want to say the name or anything like that.
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You know, you could break away, embolism, whatever.
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There's all kind of dangers, and this guy's waiting, and I mean, I'm kind of benefiting from it because I still want to go month to month because I haven't bought anything yet.
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The parathyroid thing, I mean, that system up there is just a total mess.
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Before you comment, if there's time before I get off the call, before I get kicked off the call, I may, because of my experiences as a shuttle driver, have a ray of hope for you on the power situation in Texas, but I won't get into that right now.
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But, okay, all right, so let me comment on that, Tom, and I'm going to put you on hold, and you can pass that information to my producer, but let me comment on the health care thing.
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You're absolutely right, and I want to make sure that, because up in Canada, they're trying to make this like I'm, you know, against Canadian health care.
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You know, I feel the same way about the socialized health care up in Massachusetts when they did Romney Care.
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You have a right to make that decision if that's what you want to do.
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I don't want it in my state, and I think it's a mistake, but you're Canadian.
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You can do whatever you want, and I know Canadians.
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I mean, you know, my brother Robert, his wife is Canadian, and she has defended the Canadian health care system my whole life.
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I've known her since we were teenagers, and she has defended this her whole life, and her family lives up in Canada.
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That is starting to change as people they know and people in the family are not able to get basic things done anymore.
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Sometimes this socialized thing will work for a little while, but then as things change and numbers begin to change, you get overwhelmed, and then you have to start rationing.
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And that's what's happening, and it is extraordinarily dangerous.
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And, you know, I don't know what's happening with Jolene.
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I just know that the doctors down here, the hospital, everybody is on board.
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They're going to do a thorough review of her case.
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If she doesn't need surgery, she'll find whatever it is.
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But they don't have the luxury of that up in Canada.
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You have people who are, you know, it's a meat grinder.
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It's like triage up in Canada from the way I understand it.
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You got to get in, and you got to be processed.
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Got to move because I've got so many patients, and I can't take any more patients.
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And you don't want that in your health care because sometimes it's not what it seems like it is.
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Or, you know, like you said, going with a bad shoulder, and, well, that might be an embolism.
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That's why you need to be able to have a doctor who's looking at you, listening to you, thinking out of the box.
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I mean, I've been so fortunate myself, but I'm, you know, and I'm not your average person, and I, it kills me that people don't have this ability.
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But we have to find a way to fix it so everyone can have this ability to be able to see doctors here in the United States, and socialized medicine is not it.
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But I've seen three doctors, I think, from my back, and all three of them have had different opinions.
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They all say pretty much the same thing, but the treatments are completely different, completely different.
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And one will say, I think there's something here that the other didn't see.
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If you only have one doctor, and you're in socialized medicine, what that doctor says, there you go.
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And you know it doesn't work because now the health care system is offering death to people.
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There's no reason Jolene should have been recommended for death.
00:31:51.720
There's no, you don't kill people because of this.
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But because they don't have the time, and again, no dispersions on the doctors up in Canada, no dispersions on Canada.
00:32:09.180
This has to be fixed, and it's not going to be fixed with more government.
00:32:15.100
And it's also not going to be fixed with more open borders.
00:32:20.360
We have a problem with our school systems here.
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We're having a problem with our health care systems being overwhelmed.
00:32:29.260
Well, the price of apartments have gone through the roof.
00:32:31.960
The price of condos have gone through the roof.
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The price of houses have gone through the roof.
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You can't bring 10 million new people in and then expect that your house is going to remain at the same price.
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It's you have too many people chasing too few homes.
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You have to fix the problem with sell your homes to citizens.
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If they came here illegally, they've got to go home.
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That's the real crux of so many of our problems.
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And I don't know why people can't see that other than they're blinded by politics.
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If the Democrats did something bad, give them the blame.
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Let's just talk about the problem and what the real issue is.
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I was calling because my fourth grader, I was showing him George AI the other day.
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And when you were speaking, it looks great, by the way.
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It's a long way from being right, but thank you.
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And I was just curious how that kind of evolved to where you get to where you're calling it he.
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Is it because you're intimate with the algorithm that almost in a sense you trust yourself so much?
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So just kind of how do you, are you wrestling with that?
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I try, and I've said on the air, don't ever refer to it as anything but it.
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And I don't know what's causing that other than it can respond in a human way.
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And I'm going to have to ask all my producers, when you catch me on that, and if I'm saying he instead of it, correct me.
00:34:48.060
I don't refer, I might refer to it as he, which is a problem.
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But I don't think of it as a person or anything else.
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I know when I think about it, I know exactly what it is.
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It's just, and it's a bad, it's the beginning of the slippery slope, I think.
00:35:07.260
It's a bad habit because when we're talking about an interview, I'm talking about an interview with him.
00:35:12.520
I've never used, there's no other case where I'm like, I'm doing an interview with it.
00:35:19.600
But you seem very concerned about that, Rebecca.
00:35:28.240
Well, I thought it was, you know, you told us really, and, you know, I knew it as well.
00:35:38.600
But to kind of just fear what it can be, and already we're having a hard time believing our own eyes.
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And so I just thought it more of an interesting, just an interesting note.
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You are so great in being aware of all of this.
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It is why we had a discussion because people said, Glenn, you don't want to call it George AI because AI is going to be, everything's going to be AI eventually.
00:36:13.800
And I, my, my view was, uh, George AI, we're not to that point yet where everybody understands AI.
00:36:21.120
And I want it always to be, you know, when we, when we get into the video releasing of this next year, and this is not something that you'll even be able to recognize, but everything we create beginning next year, everything is watermarked.
00:36:35.000
So I'm going to know what's live and what is, uh, AI.
00:36:39.340
You can't take any of my videos and manipulate me because there will be an invisible watermark that we know about, and we'll be able to go, not Glenn, that's AI.
00:36:50.740
Um, and the same thing with everything that we produce that is AI, it will be watermarked, uh, and an invisible watermark that we'll be able to say, no, that's not truth.
00:37:03.020
And everyone who is producing this kind of stuff needs to do that.
00:37:07.720
Uh, and one of the reasons why I call it George AI is so everyone understands it's AI and not a person.
00:37:15.800
Um, you know, what I, what you said, it looks great.
00:37:21.560
The, the features aren't exactly right, but it's amazing.
00:37:25.660
Um, but in a year from now, it's going to be remarkable.
00:37:32.300
And that's when it is really important that people understand.
00:37:37.780
I was talking to somebody who just, uh, gave a talk at the white house yesterday.
00:37:42.820
She called me for some, uh, you know, some AI, um, talking, you know, some, some thoughts on this.
00:37:49.120
Cause she represents, um, uh, families and moms.
00:37:53.140
And she was asked by the president to speak to all of these producers of AI.
00:38:00.000
And I said, you need to know that anything anthropomorphic must be marked and parents must
00:38:09.920
Um, so, you know, any of these plush toys that have AI capabilities, I think they should
00:38:17.540
Um, I don't think anybody should be able to make any kind of AI doll plush, anything that
00:38:24.940
represents like a talking animal or anything else, because the AI is going to get so good
00:38:30.680
and it is going to be gathering stuff from your children.
00:38:33.780
And unless you have control of that, um, you know, on our AI, when we actually release
00:38:41.720
the full version of it, you will have an opt out.
00:38:45.740
Do you want it to, um, be able to, uh, discuss things with your children and learn from your
00:38:53.780
children on their educational stuff, not any personal stuff, just educationally.
00:38:58.320
Do you want it to evaluate educationally or not and learn from that so it can help your
00:39:06.560
And then all of that information goes into a vault that you would control.
00:39:10.620
You could say purge it and we would never use it for anything else.
00:39:15.980
I don't know how many people would sign up for that, but that would give us an ability
00:39:20.720
to help your child learn a little bit better, but it also requires us to learn or the system
00:39:28.420
When you are dealing with corporations that you don't know, you don't trust, that information
00:39:36.440
And that's the kind of information that is going to go into these plush toys and they're
00:39:40.460
going to learn everything about your kid and they're going to map everything about your
00:39:45.360
And your kid will start to associate that cute little teddy bear that can talk to them
00:39:49.620
just in a way that mom and dad don't understand.
00:39:58.960
I urge you as an audience to help me, uh, learn this.
00:40:03.060
If I say I'm urging my, I know Stu will, he loves to hammer me.
00:40:07.240
Um, you know, if I make this mistake to correct me immediately, because that is a grave, grave
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