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00:03:15.120 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:03:27.520 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:03:29.400 It's open phones today.

00:03:31.140 I want to talk to you about whatever it is you want to discuss.

00:03:33.940 Let me go to Alex in New York.

00:03:35.800 Hello, Alex.

00:03:39.740 Alex, are you there?

00:03:41.460 Hi, Glenn.

00:03:42.280 Yes, I am.

00:03:42.980 Hi.

00:03:43.240 Hi, go ahead.

00:03:46.260 Sure.

00:03:46.780 So I'm calling in from upstate New York, where we definitely have a situation on our hands

00:03:51.880 here with the solar farms that our governor is pushing very, very hard.

00:03:58.640 They are absolutely using it as a land grab to take our best farmland.

00:04:04.660 And in the case of near my farm here, they're trying to put in a solar farm on a protected

00:04:09.820 grassland habitat that New York state already designated as an important habitat, except

00:04:16.840 when big solar comes to town.

00:04:18.860 And we're currently fighting that up here.

00:04:21.200 I meet with a coalition of people across the state, really amazing people who are battling

00:04:26.460 this in every village in upstate New York right now.

00:04:29.440 And we definitely have a situation on our hands.

00:04:31.840 I call it a runaway train.

00:04:34.400 Yeah.

00:04:34.820 Just keep fighting.

00:04:36.280 I don't know how you fight it in New York, but just keep fighting because there are there

00:04:40.860 are communities around the country that are fighting things like this that are winning.

00:04:44.740 I don't know about New York, but we've got to have our farmland.

00:04:50.380 And it kills me.

00:04:51.800 You know, I talked about this the other day.

00:04:53.120 It absolutely kills me that the people could not have nuclear energy.

00:04:58.320 No way we can have nuclear energy.

00:04:59.940 But the minute big tech needs nuclear energy, oh, they can build them.

00:05:04.740 Build as many as you want.

00:05:05.860 I mean, it's so disgusting.

00:05:08.260 I want to talk to you about energy on something else.

00:05:11.160 The solar thing does not work.

00:05:12.800 And as a man who has spent maybe a million, million and a half dollars on alternative energy

00:05:24.220 for a ranch I have up in the mountains that has no power to it, and over a 10 or 12 year

00:05:32.080 period, I have just poured money into it.

00:05:35.420 And it's a nightmare.

00:05:36.260 It does not work.

00:05:39.100 It doesn't work.

00:05:40.360 You can't run anything of any significance.

00:05:46.220 You know, running my studio, just my studio alone has been an absolute nightmare in there.

00:05:53.220 It's not, it doesn't work.

00:05:54.520 Okay.

00:05:54.940 Solar and wind.

00:05:56.040 It might be good for a little add on, you know, if you live in Phoenix, you know, or I don't know,

00:06:01.700 on the sun, but it doesn't work.

00:06:04.220 Um, at least to the scale that we need.

00:06:07.780 Um, but just the other day, do we happen to have the clip from the prediction show where

00:06:13.300 I made a prediction, uh, of what was coming next year on energy?

00:06:17.500 Can we play that please?

00:06:22.960 I think in 2026, 2025 was the year, as I said, that we started really understanding AI and

00:06:30.460 what is coming to some degree.

00:06:32.020 And we understood, Oh, energy is going to be a problem.

00:06:36.980 I think 2026 is going to be the first year that we see things like Texas having rolling

00:06:43.280 brownouts for a week at a time.

00:06:46.640 I think you're going to start to see the, the strain on the grid, um, by the end of,

00:06:52.880 of next year in ways that you would never have expected in the United States.

00:06:57.200 It's just growing exponentially.

00:06:59.560 Um, okay.

00:07:00.420 I think I said that on Wednesday show, we had a prediction show of what, what the biggest

00:07:05.840 stories and what are the predictions.

00:07:08.000 And when I said that, I'm like, you know, at the end of next year, let me give you this

00:07:12.000 from the associated press today, the amount of air cuts, large load interconnection requests

00:07:18.860 ballooned to more than three, 230 gigawatts this year.

00:07:23.440 Um, a massive increase now, last year, December, 2024, air caught needed 63 gigawatts a year

00:07:35.480 later, this December, the load that is required is 230 gigawatts.

00:07:43.580 That's a lot more than they needed to go back to the future.

00:07:47.260 Uh, this, you're going to see the grids are not built for this more than 70% of the large

00:07:57.140 loads are for the data center.

00:07:59.680 The data centers are just beginning to be built.

00:08:03.620 We don't have the energy.

00:08:06.560 And I'm telling you, this is going to be the Achilles heel of this administration.

00:08:11.300 Um, and believe me, it will only be worse with the democratic administration.

00:08:17.520 This is going to be the Achilles heel because we can't build these power plants fast enough.

00:08:24.280 And, and while Donald Trump is fast tracking these nuclear power plants, it's not fast enough

00:08:31.700 because as we build these data centers, what's going to happen is your energy.

00:08:38.080 You're going to start to have rolling brownouts also because of these data centers.

00:08:42.400 You're also going to see the unemployment go up.

00:08:45.520 If you start to have high unemployment, high prices and rolling brownouts to where you're

00:08:53.740 having a hard time with electricity yourself, but the data centers for the Silicon Valley

00:08:59.580 companies, they're getting your power.

00:09:02.440 I'm telling you the Bubba effect is just the beginning.

00:09:07.300 This will be an absolute nightmare for all politicians.

00:09:13.460 I'm so pissed off.

00:09:14.940 What?

00:09:15.740 This was, I was on this show.

00:09:17.760 They were like, Hey, you want to be on a prediction show?

00:09:20.780 You'll be squaring off against the guy that predicted Osama bin Laden, the financial crisis, 0.86

00:09:25.040 good luck, buddy.

00:09:27.420 And I'm like, I just knew it.

00:09:29.080 I didn't know it was going to happen that quick, but like two days later,

00:09:31.860 two days later and it comes, I mean, I mean, Texas is look, Texas is in trouble.

00:09:38.020 Um, uh, you know, and as goes Texas, so goes America, so goes America, so goes the world.

00:09:44.840 Texas has got to get serious about, and, and I know they are to some degree, but the president

00:09:53.380 has got to get rid of all of these restrictions and Texas has to get all of these, and we have

00:10:01.720 to concentrate on electricity and not just electricity for the average homes, uh, or I mean for these

00:10:10.200 data centers, but for the average homes, the grids are already under strain.

00:10:15.100 They're, they're not, you know, the problem is if they start taking this electricity out

00:10:21.280 of, off of the grid, the old grid, you can't pour more electricity into that grid.

00:10:29.360 The grids are already at the breaking point.

00:10:32.220 They're old, they're brittle.

00:10:33.840 They're, they're not prepared for what we have to do.

00:10:36.580 That's why they have to build these nuclear power plants at the, uh, server farms because 0.96

00:10:43.800 they, they cannot go on to the system because the system can't handle that much power.

00:10:49.800 We are in real trouble and everybody is still talking about solar power and everything else. 0.96

00:10:54.740 You're out of your fricking minds.

00:10:58.300 Nobody has any ideas to, I'm sorry. 0.99

00:11:01.180 Stu's like, watch your language, Mr.

00:11:03.180 We got, I'm sorry, you hit really hard at the beginning.

00:11:05.840 I was wondering what road we were going down.

00:11:08.400 I mean, you're, you're out of your mind.

00:11:10.620 People have got to wake up to between now and 2028.

00:11:17.560 I can't emphasize this enough.

00:11:19.700 If you've listened to me for a long time and you heard me say, I'm telling you, we're going

00:11:25.600 to have a financial meltdown and it is going to be the worst, you know, it's going to,

00:11:31.520 it's going to, you know, you'll lose your 401k.

00:11:35.320 You'll lose everything.

00:11:36.540 Get your money out of the system.

00:11:38.200 I was saying that in 2006, 2007, and no one was listening.

00:11:42.500 Thank God.

00:11:43.400 A lot of the listeners were listening and they saved their money and got it out in time.

00:11:48.040 I'm telling you now with just as much surety in this, the world is going to change in such

00:11:58.080 profound ways, uh, between now and 2028 in ways you cannot even imagine at this point

00:12:07.540 that you have to be, forget your money, forget everything else.

00:12:11.780 You have to be spiritually in tune.

00:12:14.660 You have to be rock solid in who you are, what it means to be human, what it means to

00:12:21.300 be alive, what's important, what's not important.

00:12:25.620 Um, you can't, you, and this is so hard.

00:12:28.800 I mean, I'm a guy who's in this business.

00:12:31.560 I'm telling you, this is why in those last week I've spent more time on that woman in, 1.00

00:12:38.060 in Canada than I have on really important things that are happening politically because

00:12:44.400 the most important thing we can do is realign ourselves with truth, universal truth.

00:12:56.880 Humanity must be preserved.

00:13:00.360 Your life is worth saving.

00:13:03.660 Your life is worth living.

00:13:06.280 Don't go down the road of madness with the rest of society because right now these gigantic

00:13:13.880 corporations, uh, you know, in Silicon Valley, they are promising us the only way out, listen

00:13:21.660 to me carefully, the only way out to pay off our debt or to survive our debt is to have

00:13:28.780 something that takes our country and pushes it, our GDP up, you know, by 10 points.

00:13:36.360 All of a sudden, if that happens, then we're starting to make more income tax revenue and

00:13:41.760 we can pay the debt.

00:13:43.160 We can afford the things that we've already, you know, spent money on.

00:13:47.280 If we don't have that, we're into, into a different bad scenario world.

00:13:53.920 So they're promising us that, but at the same time, they're promising us, we can pay the debt.

00:14:00.460 We can, we can lead the world on this, but we also are not going to have a lot of jobs.

00:14:05.520 Oh, and by the way, to do that, we're also going to have to take energy and maybe for a

00:14:12.680 while, take it from the people, people who can't afford food, don't have jobs, uh, don't

00:14:20.000 have meaning, uh, and don't have power.

00:14:26.300 Uh, that doesn't lead to any place good at all.

00:14:31.500 Warning, it's coming.

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00:15:43.260 This is it.

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00:16:31.320 Now back to the podcast.

00:16:32.860 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:16:36.580 Lee, welcome to the program.

00:16:37.960 How are you?

00:16:39.180 I'm doing great, Glenn.

00:16:40.380 Great to be with you again.

00:16:42.540 Yeah, I love talking to you.

00:16:44.440 Um, I'm really excited to hear the case for, uh, Christmas.

00:16:48.380 Now you were an atheist, uh, and, uh, you, and we've talked about this before your, your

00:16:55.820 eyes opened up and how did you get to the place to where you're like, okay, let me see

00:17:01.220 if I can make the case for the baby Jesus in the manger.

00:17:04.800 Well, yeah, being an atheist, my wife became a Christian, so I decided to try to rescue

00:17:09.420 her from this cult that she's gotten involved in.

00:17:11.340 And so, uh, that launched me on an investigation into the historical reliability of Christianity.

00:17:17.280 Uh, I did that for two years until I became convinced that in light of the evidence, it

00:17:22.780 would take more faith to maintain my atheism than to become a Christian.

00:17:26.160 So I became a Christian and ended up leaving journalism and so forth and written many books

00:17:31.400 about it.

00:17:31.840 But I wanted to do a book on Christmas because in the Christmas season, there seems to be

00:17:36.900 a more spiritual openness than any other time of the year.

00:17:40.840 Even when I was an atheist, I felt more spiritually sensitive during the time of Christmas.

00:17:47.040 Um, I don't know why, I guess it's because it permeates the culture.

00:17:49.700 And, um, yeah, I think it's because we see, we see hope, we see goodness in one another.

00:17:57.600 It's different.

00:17:59.520 Yes, exactly.

00:18:00.800 But how do we know that it's based on reality?

00:18:03.760 Uh, how do we know we can all enjoy the parties and the gift giving and so forth, but how do

00:18:08.780 we know it's really based on historical reality?

00:18:11.080 That's what really intrigues me as someone who's kind of a history buff.

00:18:15.560 Okay.

00:18:16.000 So take me through that.

00:18:17.400 How do we know?

00:18:18.000 Well, we've, yeah, we've got two real early, uh, independent, uh, but consistent reports

00:18:25.220 about the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem 2000 years ago.

00:18:28.820 One comes from the gospel of Luke.

00:18:31.080 Now, Luke was a, I love this guy.

00:18:33.180 He was a first century investigative reporter.

00:18:35.520 Uh, he was a companion of, uh, St. Paul and Luke said, he didn't say, well, I'm going

00:18:41.980 to tell you about something that happened in the distant past once upon a time.

00:18:45.580 He said, no, he said, I carefully investigated everything so I could write an orderly account

00:18:50.000 about the certainty of what took place.

00:18:52.080 So he's claiming I'm writing about what actually took place.

00:18:55.500 I believe he writes from Mary's perspective.

00:18:59.640 Um, I think he may have interviewed Mary.

00:19:01.760 If he didn't, I think he interviewed Susanna and Joanna who were friends of Mary, who he

00:19:05.560 mentions in his gospel.

00:19:06.680 And then we have Matthew.

00:19:08.780 Matthew was also, he was a disciple.

00:19:10.960 Uh, Matthew was, um, um, right there in the first century setting.

00:19:15.440 He later became a leader in the church in Jerusalem.

00:19:17.900 And one of the other leaders was a guy named James, who was the half brother of Jesus.

00:19:22.640 So James, I think communicated to Matthew kind of the male, the guy's perspective of the

00:19:28.500 birth of his brother, Jesus.

00:19:30.160 And so here we've got, by the way, I was talking to a woman the other day and she has a young

00:19:35.040 child night and she, I was talking to her about this and she said, yeah, you know, if

00:19:38.780 you ask my husband, the story about the birth of our child and you ask me, you're going to

00:19:43.800 get two different perspectives.

00:19:46.200 We're going to be consistent.

00:19:47.200 It's the same birth.

00:19:48.440 You know, we're talking about the real situation.

00:19:50.680 So we've got these two very early reports that are independent, that are consistent with

00:19:55.620 each other.

00:19:56.160 And then we have a very interesting report in the gospel of Mark.

00:20:00.240 Now, Mark is writing based on the recollections of Peter, who is one of the inner circle with

00:20:05.360 Jesus.

00:20:06.340 And he starts his gospel later in Jesus' life.

00:20:09.060 So he doesn't have a birth narrative.

00:20:11.000 But interestingly, in Mark 6, verse 3, he refers to Jesus as Mary's son.

00:20:17.480 Now, in first century Jewish culture, you would never do that.

00:20:20.960 You were always your father's son.

00:20:22.460 It would have been Joseph's son.

00:20:23.560 Even if Joseph were already deceased, you would always refer to him as Joseph.

00:20:27.520 And no, he referred to him as Mary's son.

00:20:29.820 I think there was a wink to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

00:20:32.460 Joseph wasn't his biological father.

00:20:34.960 And then we have John, who writes the last gospel.

00:20:38.480 He doesn't repeat a lot of the historical stuff in the first three gospels.

00:20:42.280 He writes from a grand theological perspective about the incarnation.

00:20:46.160 In the beginning was the word.

00:20:47.660 And the word was with God.

00:20:49.100 And the word was God.

00:20:50.260 And then the word came into our world and dwelt among us.

00:20:53.600 So it was very theological.

00:20:55.540 But interestingly, John had a disciple who he mentored.

00:20:59.840 And that guy wrote a letter.

00:21:02.680 And in that letter, he says Jesus was, quote, really and truly born of a virgin.

00:21:09.680 Where did he get that idea?

00:21:10.800 I think it was from John, who wrote the gospel of John.

00:21:15.180 So is it concerning at all?

00:21:17.040 Because I've heard this argument before.

00:21:19.820 You know, when the gospels all say the same thing, it's pretty clear.

00:21:27.140 But they can't even agree on the last words of Christ when he's on the cross.

00:21:32.440 And is it, does it matter?

00:21:36.460 Should we be concerned that only two of the four gospels talk about the birth?

00:21:41.120 No, I don't think so.

00:21:42.440 Because, first of all, those are two solid sources historically and very early.

00:21:47.720 Mark gives us a reference to the fact that Joseph was not the biological father.

00:21:53.340 And he also portrays Jesus as being the unique son of God.

00:21:56.740 And John, of course, was a theological take on the incarnation, is basically saying the same thing.

00:22:03.280 So, no, I don't think that's a problem.

00:22:05.300 And the differences in the gospels, I don't think are a problem either.

00:22:09.460 Because, you know, as someone trained in law, if you're in a trial and the witnesses get up

00:22:15.700 and they all say the exact same thing, you object and say, your honor, collusioned.

00:22:21.000 They got together, they worked out the story, and you can't trust it.

00:22:24.660 But when you have different perspectives, people emphasize different things.

00:22:29.380 There's, for instance, a technique that was used in ancient literature that's used today

00:22:33.660 called literary spotlighting.

00:22:35.960 And what that means is somebody will focus on what one person is saying or doing,

00:22:41.740 and other people will focus on other people who are involved in the same scene.

00:22:46.540 But it's not contradictory.

00:22:48.320 They're just focusing on different aspects of the same scene.

00:22:50.980 So, when you look at what the, yeah.

00:22:55.580 No, I'm sorry to interrupt.

00:22:57.720 I was going to say, when you look at the literary techniques that were used in the first century

00:23:03.820 by other ancient writers like Plutarch and so forth, these historians,

00:23:08.160 and you use those same literary techniques in writing the New Testament,

00:23:12.440 these discrepancies between the Gospels virtually disappear.

00:23:18.000 So, let me take you here.

00:23:19.480 And I, you know, I believe in this story, but I want to push back as hard as I can on this.

00:23:25.860 You know, the virgin birth is so hard for people to accept.

00:23:29.880 And especially once you look at Greek mythology, you're like, this is the same story.

00:23:34.480 They're just plagiarizing.

00:23:35.700 This is half man, half God.

00:23:38.380 You know, this is Hercules.

00:23:40.340 So, how do you respond to that?

00:23:43.640 Yeah, I actually deal with this in my book.

00:23:46.280 This is totally bogus.

00:23:48.400 This was invented by German theologians in the 1800s.

00:23:52.520 In the early 1900s, the Christians responded to it and answered it and refuted it.

00:23:59.000 But now it's come up again, I think, because the Internet has dredged up these old arguments.

00:24:03.700 So, for instance, you've got the most famous example is Dan Brown in his book and movie The Da Vinci Code,

00:24:10.720 where he says, oh, well, you know, Christian just copied all this stuff.

00:24:15.540 He said there was an ancient myth called Mithras, and Mithras was born of a virgin on December the 25th.

00:24:22.640 He had 12 disciples.

00:24:24.480 He died for world peace.

00:24:26.400 He was resurrected from the dead.

00:24:27.920 So, now Jesus is just kind of plagiarizing that that story of Jesus was invented by people and plagiarized from Mithras.

00:24:36.360 Well, I investigate that, and what do you find?

00:24:39.760 You find in the actual myth of Mithras, number one, he was not born of a virgin.

00:24:46.260 The myth was he emerged fully grown, naked, wearing a hat out of a rock.

00:24:51.260 But, I mean, it's the same thing.

00:24:56.380 Yeah. 0.97

00:24:57.440 I guess you could say the rock is a virgin, but, I mean, that's ridiculous.

00:25:01.780 Secondly, born on December the 25th.

00:25:04.220 Well, so what?

00:25:04.800 We don't know the date Jesus was born.

00:25:06.440 That's not in the Bible.

00:25:07.680 The ancient records don't record it.

00:25:09.460 Ancient Christians did not care about birthdays. 1.00

00:25:11.960 Third, he didn't die for world peace. 0.89

00:25:15.220 He was known for killing a bull.

00:25:17.260 Fourth, he didn't have 12 disciples.

00:25:19.300 According to one version, he had one disciple.

00:25:21.620 According to another version, he had two disciples.

00:25:24.640 He wasn't resurrected from the dead.

00:25:26.260 There is nothing in the myth about Mithras about him dying, and so nothing about a resurrection.

00:25:31.360 So, all of these parallels, supposed parallels, disappear when you investigate what actually took place.

00:25:40.620 You know, people say, oh, Alexander the Great, you know, there was a myth that he was conceived by Zeus, the god Zeus.

00:25:47.660 Well, even Alexander the Great's own mother, Olympias, said it's not true.

00:25:53.220 It's crazy.

00:25:54.380 It's just a story.

00:25:55.060 It's not true.

00:25:55.700 So, every one of these supposed myths that predated Christianity, none of them are parallels to the story of Jesus' birth in Bethlehem.

00:26:07.500 All right.

00:26:08.500 I'm going to take a one-minute break, and then I want to ask you about the one word, one Greek word, that shed new light on the traditional Christmas story.

00:26:18.360 More with Lee Strobel here in just a second.

00:26:20.720 The name of the book, and it makes a great Christmas gift, and then you should buy it now and read it yourself as well.

00:26:27.380 The Case for Christmas, The Case for Christmas by Lee Strobel.

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00:26:39.980 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:26:42.780 We were talking to Tom in Florida, and you were about to tell us a story.

00:26:47.560 Tom, go ahead.

00:26:49.380 Hey, thanks, Glenn.

00:26:50.260 Yeah, to kind of recap, the Breeders Digest, the parathyroid thing, very real. 0.99

00:26:55.800 I shuttle those patients as far as them coming in to stay at one of the five hotels I shuttle, full-time action boards over time.

00:27:04.440 They used to support that.

00:27:05.300 Here's the thing.

00:27:07.080 This thing with Canada is very, very real.

00:27:10.420 God's blessed me.

00:27:11.360 I sold my home at 26 years, 36 years of Florida back in May, June.

00:27:15.580 I went on a four-month lease out here at the beach until I figured out what I want to be when I grow up.

00:27:20.640 What I did is this Canadian couple, he's got a shoulder issue, black and blue all the way up and down.

00:27:29.640 They were going to come down.

00:27:30.640 They were going to take it over.

00:27:33.040 Emergency to the Canadian government to get this thing.

00:27:36.560 There could be a blood clot in there.

00:27:38.320 I don't want to say the name or anything like that.

00:27:40.940 You know, you could break away, embolism, whatever.

00:27:43.580 There's all kind of dangers, and this guy's waiting, and I mean, I'm kind of benefiting from it because I still want to go month to month because I haven't bought anything yet.

00:27:52.800 You know, God's been good to me.

00:27:54.640 I'm a cash buyer.

00:27:56.020 But this thing is very, very real.

00:27:58.740 The parathyroid thing, I mean, that system up there is just a total mess. 1.00

00:28:05.540 Before you comment, if there's time before I get off the call, before I get kicked off the call, I may, because of my experiences as a shuttle driver, have a ray of hope for you on the power situation in Texas, but I won't get into that right now.

00:28:18.820 But, okay, all right, so let me comment on that, Tom, and I'm going to put you on hold, and you can pass that information to my producer, but let me comment on the health care thing.

00:28:30.060 You're absolutely right, and I want to make sure that, because up in Canada, they're trying to make this like I'm, you know, against Canadian health care.

00:28:37.420 I'm not a Canadian.

00:28:38.900 You know, I feel the same way about the socialized health care up in Massachusetts when they did Romney Care.

00:28:44.020 I'm not in Massachusetts.

00:28:44.900 You have a right to make that decision if that's what you want to do.

00:28:47.500 I don't want it in my state, and I think it's a mistake, but you're Canadian. 1.00

00:28:51.580 You can do whatever you want, and I know Canadians.

00:28:54.120 I mean, you know, my brother Robert, his wife is Canadian, and she has defended the Canadian health care system my whole life.

00:29:04.160 I've known her since we were teenagers, and she has defended this her whole life, and her family lives up in Canada.

00:29:11.220 That is starting to change as people they know and people in the family are not able to get basic things done anymore.

00:29:20.280 It's because the system is being overwhelmed.

00:29:24.440 Sometimes this socialized thing will work for a little while, but then as things change and numbers begin to change, you get overwhelmed, and then you have to start rationing.

00:29:35.060 And that's what's happening, and it is extraordinarily dangerous.

00:29:38.840 And, you know, I don't know what's happening with Jolene.

00:29:41.480 I just know that the doctors down here, the hospital, everybody is on board.

00:29:47.840 They're going to do a thorough review of her case.

00:29:51.100 They're going to get her help.

00:29:52.240 If she needs surgery, she'll have surgery. 1.00

00:29:53.720 If she doesn't need surgery, she'll find whatever it is.

00:29:56.040 We'll find out what's going on with her.

00:29:58.580 But they don't have the luxury of that up in Canada.

00:30:02.220 You have people who are, you know, it's a meat grinder.

00:30:05.840 It's like triage up in Canada from the way I understand it.

00:30:09.820 You got to get in, and you got to be processed.

00:30:12.320 Got to move.

00:30:12.720 Got to move because I've got so many patients, and I can't take any more patients.

00:30:16.000 I'm overwhelmed, so we got to move.

00:30:17.400 Got to move.

00:30:17.760 Got to move.

00:30:18.080 And you don't want that in your health care because sometimes it's not what it seems like it is.

00:30:24.740 Or, you know, like you said, going with a bad shoulder, and, well, that might be an embolism.

00:30:32.020 It might be whatever.

00:30:32.980 I don't know.

00:30:34.260 But that's why you need time.

00:30:37.780 That's why you need doctors. 0.94

00:30:39.120 That's why you need to be able to have a doctor who's looking at you, listening to you, thinking out of the box.

00:30:45.760 I mean, I've been so fortunate myself, but I'm, you know, and I'm not your average person, and I, it kills me that people don't have this ability.

00:30:58.400 But we have to find a way to fix it so everyone can have this ability to be able to see doctors here in the United States, and socialized medicine is not it.

00:31:08.280 But I've seen three doctors, I think, from my back, and all three of them have had different opinions.

00:31:12.940 They all say pretty much the same thing, but the treatments are completely different, completely different.

00:31:19.360 And one will say, I think there's something here that the other didn't see.

00:31:25.040 If you only have one doctor, and you're in socialized medicine, what that doctor says, there you go.

00:31:31.120 That's what you're going to do.

00:31:32.340 And sometimes doctors can be wrong.

00:31:34.060 It's just a system that no longer works.

00:31:38.320 It just no longer works.

00:31:39.740 And you know it doesn't work because now the health care system is offering death to people.

00:31:46.480 There's no reason Jolene should have been recommended for death.

00:31:51.720 There's no, you don't kill people because of this.

00:31:54.440 You fix it.

00:31:55.480 You find out what's going on.

00:31:56.980 But because they don't have the time, and again, no dispersions on the doctors up in Canada, no dispersions on Canada.

00:32:05.520 You do your own thing.

00:32:07.580 But this is wrong.

00:32:09.180 This has to be fixed, and it's not going to be fixed with more government.

00:32:13.700 It's just not.

00:32:15.100 And it's also not going to be fixed with more open borders.

00:32:18.880 Recognize what the problem is.

00:32:20.360 We have a problem with our school systems here.

00:32:22.900 We're having a problem with our health care systems being overwhelmed.

00:32:25.540 Why do you think that is?

00:32:26.880 Why do you think people can't afford houses?

00:32:29.260 Well, the price of apartments have gone through the roof.

00:32:31.960 The price of condos have gone through the roof.

00:32:33.460 The price of houses have gone through the roof.

00:32:35.300 Why do you think that is?

00:32:36.680 You can't bring 10 million new people in and then expect that your house is going to remain at the same price.

00:32:45.460 It's you have too many people chasing too few homes.

00:32:50.200 That's what makes it go up.

00:32:51.920 You want it to go down.

00:32:53.280 You have to fix the problem with sell your homes to citizens.

00:32:58.480 Rent your homes to citizens. 1.00

00:33:00.540 They have to go home.

00:33:02.160 If they came here illegally, they've got to go home. 0.97

00:33:06.560 That's the real crux of so many of our problems.

00:33:10.800 And I don't know why people can't see that other than they're blinded by politics.

00:33:15.000 Take the political blinders off.

00:33:17.360 Let the chips fall where they may.

00:33:19.100 If the Republicans did something bad, great.

00:33:21.280 Give them the blame.

00:33:21.940 If the Democrats did something bad, give them the blame.

00:33:24.640 Let's just talk about the problem and what the real issue is.

00:33:27.960 Rebecca in Texas.

00:33:29.500 Hi, Rebecca.

00:33:29.980 How are you?

00:33:32.940 Hi, I'm well.

00:33:34.000 Sorry about that.

00:33:34.880 How are you?

00:33:35.600 That's all right.

00:33:36.460 I'm good.

00:33:37.840 I was calling because my fourth grader, I was showing him George AI the other day.

00:33:44.520 And when you were speaking, it looks great, by the way.

00:33:47.600 Well done.

00:33:48.940 And when you were speaking about it.

00:33:50.160 It's a long way from being right, but thank you.

00:33:52.500 Well, it looks great.

00:33:54.160 Thanks.

00:33:54.560 You mentioned, and you referred to it as a he.

00:33:57.840 And I was just curious how that kind of evolved to where you get to where you're calling it he.

00:34:05.460 Is it because you're intimate with the algorithm that almost in a sense you trust yourself so much?

00:34:10.760 Okay.

00:34:11.080 So just kind of how do you, are you wrestling with that?

00:34:17.000 Oh, big time wrestling with that.

00:34:18.600 I try, and I've said on the air, don't ever refer to it as anything but it.

00:34:22.380 And I do.

00:34:23.060 And I don't know what's causing that other than it can respond in a human way.

00:34:31.320 It can respond in a way that a human would.

00:34:34.280 And so it is natural.

00:34:35.700 And I'm glad you caught me on that.

00:34:37.260 And I'm going to have to ask all my producers, when you catch me on that, and if I'm saying he instead of it, correct me.

00:34:45.660 Because this is a big problem.

00:34:48.060 I don't refer, I might refer to it as he, which is a problem.

00:34:53.220 But I don't think of it as a person or anything else.

00:34:58.240 I know when I think about it, I know exactly what it is.

00:35:01.680 It's just, and it's a bad, it's the beginning of the slippery slope, I think.

00:35:07.260 It's a bad habit because when we're talking about an interview, I'm talking about an interview with him.

00:35:12.520 I've never used, there's no other case where I'm like, I'm doing an interview with it.

00:35:16.540 And I need to, I need to.

00:35:19.600 But you seem very concerned about that, Rebecca.

00:35:25.260 Why is it?

00:35:26.480 I agree with you, but what is your concern?

00:35:28.240 Well, I thought it was, you know, you told us really, and, you know, I knew it as well.

00:35:38.600 But to kind of just fear what it can be, and already we're having a hard time believing our own eyes.

00:35:44.700 And so I just thought it more of an interesting, just an interesting note.

00:35:51.140 And just how easy it can be to fall into that.

00:35:55.520 Oh, I know.

00:35:56.540 I know.

00:35:56.960 So you are the perfect mom.

00:36:01.260 You are so great in being aware of all of this.

00:36:04.460 It is why we had a discussion because people said, Glenn, you don't want to call it George AI because AI is going to be, everything's going to be AI eventually.

00:36:11.860 And it's going to look outdated.

00:36:13.800 And I, my, my view was, uh, George AI, we're not to that point yet where everybody understands AI.

00:36:21.120 And I want it always to be, you know, when we, when we get into the video releasing of this next year, and this is not something that you'll even be able to recognize, but everything we create beginning next year, everything is watermarked.

00:36:35.000 So I'm going to know what's live and what is, uh, AI.

00:36:39.340 You can't take any of my videos and manipulate me because there will be an invisible watermark that we know about, and we'll be able to go, not Glenn, that's AI.

00:36:50.740 Um, and the same thing with everything that we produce that is AI, it will be watermarked, uh, and an invisible watermark that we'll be able to say, no, that's not truth.

00:37:01.920 That's AI.

00:37:03.020 And everyone who is producing this kind of stuff needs to do that.

00:37:07.720 Uh, and one of the reasons why I call it George AI is so everyone understands it's AI and not a person.

00:37:15.800 Um, you know, what I, what you said, it looks great.

00:37:19.120 It's out of sync.

00:37:20.300 The voice isn't right.

00:37:21.560 The, the features aren't exactly right, but it's amazing.

00:37:25.660 Um, but in a year from now, it's going to be remarkable.

00:37:32.300 And that's when it is really important that people understand.

00:37:37.780 I was talking to somebody who just, uh, gave a talk at the white house yesterday.

00:37:42.820 She called me for some, uh, you know, some AI, um, talking, you know, some, some thoughts on this.

00:37:49.120 Cause she represents, um, uh, families and moms. 1.00

00:37:53.140 And she was asked by the president to speak to all of these producers of AI.

00:37:58.220 And she said, Glenn, what do I need to know?

00:38:00.000 And I said, you need to know that anything anthropomorphic must be marked and parents must 0.98

00:38:08.280 know and have a choice.

00:38:09.920 Um, so, you know, any of these plush toys that have AI capabilities, I think they should

00:38:16.580 be banned.

00:38:17.540 Um, I don't think anybody should be able to make any kind of AI doll plush, anything that

00:38:24.940 represents like a talking animal or anything else, because the AI is going to get so good

00:38:30.680 and it is going to be gathering stuff from your children.

00:38:33.780 And unless you have control of that, um, you know, on our AI, when we actually release

00:38:41.720 the full version of it, you will have an opt out.

00:38:45.740 Do you want it to, um, be able to, uh, discuss things with your children and learn from your

00:38:53.780 children on their educational stuff, not any personal stuff, just educationally.

00:38:58.320 Do you want it to evaluate educationally or not and learn from that so it can help your

00:39:03.440 children learn better or not.

00:39:06.560 And then all of that information goes into a vault that you would control.

00:39:10.620 You could say purge it and we would never use it for anything else.

00:39:13.680 But that, that requires a great deal of trust.

00:39:15.980 I don't know how many people would sign up for that, but that would give us an ability

00:39:20.720 to help your child learn a little bit better, but it also requires us to learn or the system

00:39:27.040 to learn about your child.

00:39:28.420 When you are dealing with corporations that you don't know, you don't trust, that information

00:39:35.140 is going to go everywhere.

00:39:36.440 And that's the kind of information that is going to go into these plush toys and they're

00:39:40.460 going to learn everything about your kid and they're going to map everything about your

00:39:43.260 kid.

00:39:43.660 And it's not good.

00:39:45.360 And your kid will start to associate that cute little teddy bear that can talk to them

00:39:49.620 just in a way that mom and dad don't understand.

00:39:52.460 It is extraordinarily dangerous.

00:39:55.800 So you, thank you for calling in.

00:39:57.900 Thank you for correcting me.

00:39:58.960 I urge you as an audience to help me, uh, learn this.

00:40:02.660 Correct me.

00:40:03.060 If I say I'm urging my, I know Stu will, he loves to hammer me.

00:40:07.240 Um, you know, if I make this mistake to correct me immediately, because that is a grave, grave

00:40:14.400 danger.

00:40:15.140 It is a tool.

00:40:16.540 It is a machine period.

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