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00:00:45.000 This is happening because of the Supreme Court.

00:00:48.000 Also, Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0,

00:00:51.000 and a history of streetcars and cool cars.

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00:03:03.000 Let me tell you a history story here.

00:03:05.000 Lee Zeldin's coming up in just a minute.

00:03:07.000 We're going to talk to him about deregulation.

00:03:09.000 I may...

00:03:10.000 Well, he's not in person, so I can't kiss him.

00:03:13.000 But I might have kissed him on the mouth for what happened yesterday.

00:03:18.000 I just love what happened.

00:03:20.000 What happened?

00:03:23.000 We think, most Americans think they live in a free market,

00:03:27.000 that this is capitalism, and that is the lie you must dispel, okay?

00:03:32.000 You don't know how much you've been manipulated

00:03:38.000 and how the government has been involved in the manipulation

00:03:41.000 in these big corporations.

00:03:43.000 Let me ask you this.

00:03:44.000 Let me...

00:03:46.000 If I took you back to any American city in the 1920s,

00:03:51.000 what would it look and sound like?

00:03:54.000 Most people would think you'd hear the...

00:03:57.000 horns an awful lot, okay?

00:03:59.000 You don't hear engines, for the most part.

00:04:02.000 You hear a hum.

00:04:04.000 You hear steel wheels on steel rails, okay?

00:04:08.000 The whisper of electricity overhead, spark.

00:04:12.000 Children stepping off of street corners,

00:04:16.000 and they don't have fear of getting hit by cars.

00:04:18.000 Workers getting onto street cars without owning anything

00:04:22.000 and just going downtown to work.

00:04:24.000 Shops rise close together because distance doesn't matter

00:04:30.000 because the trolley is coming every few minutes,

00:04:32.000 and so you just grab a trolley and you get there.

00:04:35.000 City is one kind of living machine.

00:04:37.000 It's efficient, it's rhythmic, it's almost elegant, okay?

00:04:42.000 That was America in the 1920s.

00:04:45.000 By the 1930s in America, nearly every major city

00:04:50.000 from Los Angeles to Detroit to Cleveland

00:04:53.000 had an electric streetcar network.

00:04:55.000 Now, I want you to remember this as where every city 1.00

00:04:59.000 is trying to build those stupid rail systems 1.00

00:05:04.000 that nobody wants. 1.00

00:05:05.000 I just want you to remember that.

00:05:08.000 The United States in the 1930s

00:05:11.000 had more urban rail mileage than anywhere else on earth.

00:05:18.000 We were the leader in streetcars,

00:05:21.000 and then all of a sudden, overnight, vanished.

00:05:23.000 How?

00:05:27.000 I mean, all we want to do now is build light rail systems

00:05:30.000 because they're the best, they're the best.

00:05:32.000 When we build them, nobody rides them.

00:05:35.000 What happened?

00:05:37.000 You look at Paris, Tokyo, Zurich, anywhere else in the world,

00:05:42.000 their trains and their trams, they never died.

00:05:44.000 What killed that here in America?

00:05:48.000 Oh, it was the free market.

00:05:50.000 Was it?

00:05:52.000 Was it?

00:05:54.000 Let me tell you the real story on what happened.

00:05:58.000 America chose differently, but I don't think we actually chose.

00:06:03.000 Here, transportation became a private battlefield,

00:06:09.000 private, public-private battlefield.

00:06:12.000 This is where the story turns dark.

00:06:14.000 In the 1930s, there were three giants that were rising,

00:06:18.000 that were changing, and they had money like nobody else.

00:06:21.000 You had General Motors selling automobiles to everybody.

00:06:26.000 You had Standard Oil of California selling fuel

00:06:29.000 to all of those automobiles that people now needed.

00:06:32.000 You had Goodyear Tire and Rubber supplying the rubber,

00:06:35.000 touching every single road.

00:06:37.000 These companies were the up-and-comers.

00:06:41.000 These were the ones who had all the money, all the power.

00:06:43.000 Streetcars didn't pay anything to those guys.

00:06:47.000 They were competition to those guys.

00:06:49.000 Every electric trolley meant passengers that didn't have to buy cars,

00:06:56.000 wouldn't burn gasoline, and didn't have to buy tires.

00:07:00.000 The streetcar wasn't a vehicle.

00:07:02.000 It was a rival business model to those three companies.

00:07:06.000 Late 1930s, a new holding company comes up

00:07:10.000 and quietly starts buying up all of the electric streetcar systems

00:07:15.000 across American cities.

00:07:16.000 It was called the National City Lines.

00:07:19.000 National City Lines.

00:07:21.000 We're a streetcar company.

00:07:22.000 We're just buying up streetcar companies.

00:07:24.000 Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

00:07:26.000 What America didn't know at the time behind the National City Lines,

00:07:33.000 where were they getting their money to buy up all of the streetcar companies?

00:07:39.000 GM, Standard Oil, and Goodyear.

00:07:42.000 They would buy the local streetcar company.

00:07:45.000 They'd stop investing in the maintenance.

00:07:49.000 Then things would start to break down.

00:07:51.000 There'd be problems.

00:07:52.000 And they would then say, we can't fix this system.

00:07:55.000 It's just outdated.

00:07:56.000 And they'd rip out the tracks.

00:07:57.000 Meanwhile, as the train systems that they owned were having these problems,

00:08:04.000 GM, Standard Oil, and Goodyear would come to the cities and say,

00:08:09.000 you know what you need?

00:08:10.000 You need buses.

00:08:12.000 Buses are absolutely going to change the world.

00:08:15.000 You have city bus lines.

00:08:16.000 They're not going to break down like these old, outdated rail lines.

00:08:19.000 You need buses.

00:08:21.000 And so they replaced all the rail lines with buses.

00:08:25.000 And some cities pushed back.

00:08:27.000 But then suddenly, you know, who's to say that it was bribery?

00:08:33.000 Who's to say it was lobbyists?

00:08:36.000 I am.

00:08:37.000 I am.

00:08:38.000 I'm one to say that.

00:08:39.000 All of a sudden, every city got rid of them.

00:08:42.000 Okay?

00:08:43.000 The permanence of the rail disappear.

00:08:46.000 Rails, that signals stability.

00:08:50.000 Buses can be rerouted tomorrow.

00:08:53.000 What happened?

00:08:54.000 Developers stopped building dense neighborhoods around the transit.

00:08:58.000 So cities sprawled out, you know, everywhere.

00:09:02.000 And that's a problem, not a problem, up to you.

00:09:05.000 But the automobile became a necessity.

00:09:08.000 It was no longer a choice.

00:09:09.000 You live in any city.

00:09:10.000 Live in Los Angeles.

00:09:12.000 Los Angeles.

00:09:13.000 Used to have the leading streetcar system in America.

00:09:17.000 Los Angeles.

00:09:18.000 It was great.

00:09:20.000 Try getting anywhere without a car in Los Angeles.

00:09:23.000 You can't.

00:09:24.000 You can't.

00:09:26.000 You can take the bus.

00:09:27.000 Good luck with that.

00:09:29.000 So this changed the design of American life entirely.

00:09:33.000 This didn't just change the streetcar industry.

00:09:36.000 This changed our architecture, our city designs, the way we live, the way we commute.

00:09:41.000 This changed lives.

00:09:44.000 And then they put a sticker on it that said Americans just love their cars.

00:09:48.000 So you know that I'm not just making this up.

00:09:53.000 1949, federal prosecutors brought an antitrust case, okay?

00:09:57.000 And the jury came back and found, yeah, the companies were conspiring.

00:10:01.000 They were a monopoly on the buses and the supplies to the transit systems.

00:10:09.000 They had lied.

00:10:10.000 They had used lobbyists and all of this thing.

00:10:12.000 And they came down hard on them.

00:10:14.000 And the judge gave them the penalty.

00:10:16.000 You know what the penalty was?

00:10:17.000 You know what the penalty was?

00:10:18.000 For GM, Standard Oil, and Goodyear Tire?

00:10:23.000 $5,000.

00:10:27.000 $5,000.

00:10:29.000 That's like a parking ticket.

00:10:31.000 No one went to prison.

00:10:34.000 The tracks kept disappearing.

00:10:36.000 This wasn't about transportation, okay?

00:10:39.000 Streetcars created neighborhoods.

00:10:41.000 Downtowns built for people instead of parking lots.

00:10:45.000 Cities connected by shared movement.

00:10:47.000 Everything the left says they want today was pushed by these giant corporations and pushed out.

00:10:57.000 And now they're using the same tactics to get those cities back.

00:11:02.000 It's not going to end well because whenever you're doing things undercover,

00:11:07.000 whenever you're trying to be sneaky,

00:11:09.000 whenever you're not being upfront with the American people

00:11:12.000 and you're letting the elites decide,

00:11:15.000 you've got problems.

00:11:17.000 It doesn't work out well.

00:11:19.000 So the distances grew.

00:11:20.000 Dependence on cars exploded.

00:11:22.000 Highways carved through urban neighborhoods.

00:11:25.000 The American dream was relocated to the suburbs, which is fine.

00:11:29.000 It's fine.

00:11:30.000 But you didn't choose it.

00:11:32.000 Three companies through collusion, bribery, everything else,

00:11:38.000 public-private partnerships with governments, they chose that.

00:11:42.000 Because now you need a car to participate in society at all.

00:11:49.000 Okay.

00:11:51.000 America was paving over the rails.

00:11:56.000 While we were doing that, Berlin monetized the trams.

00:11:59.000 Amsterdam expanded their streetcars.

00:12:01.000 Hong Kong kept its electric trams running continuously for over a century.

00:12:05.000 Those cities enjoy options that we don't have.

00:12:10.000 They have the light rail.

00:12:11.000 They have walkable districts, mixed transit systems.

00:12:14.000 It just works because they didn't rip the foundation out.

00:12:18.000 They just kept building as the cities transformed.

00:12:22.000 Okay.

00:12:23.000 We dismantled our own advantage.

00:12:27.000 And I want you to understand.

00:12:30.000 This is not smoke-filled rooms plotting evil.

00:12:34.000 This is more dangerous, I think.

00:12:37.000 This was incentives and human frailty.

00:12:42.000 The companies followed profit.

00:12:45.000 That's what companies are supposed to do.

00:12:47.000 Cities wanted short-term savings.

00:12:50.000 The company, the National City Lines, was creating a problem

00:12:55.000 so then the people funding the National City Lines could come in

00:12:59.000 and fix the problem and have the answer.

00:13:02.000 Does any of this sound familiar?

00:13:04.000 Consumers wanted freedom, but bribes were given and taken.

00:13:08.000 Collusion between giant corporations happened.

00:13:11.000 They had the money to lobby, to buy and to bribe,

00:13:14.000 and the legal system, when it finally kicked in,

00:13:16.000 it did virtually nothing.

00:13:18.000 And let me ask you this, see if this sounds familiar.

00:13:21.000 If you had bribed politicians, colluded, lied, misrepresented everything,

00:13:27.000 and you destroyed an entire way of life, all for profit,

00:13:32.000 do you think you would have faced a $5,000 fine?

00:13:35.000 Or do you think you would have gone to jail?

00:13:39.000 Does any of this sound familiar?

00:13:41.000 Because that's what has to change.

00:13:43.000 And the only way to change that is to reduce the size of government.

00:13:48.000 They were all selling the same thing, a promise that the future would be easier if we tore up the past.

00:13:59.000 Is that not the promise of corporations and NGOs and lobbyists and big government advocates today?

00:14:05.000 Forget the past, tear the past, take the statues down, and we'll have a brighter future.

00:14:12.000 Would it not have served our generation and our children's generation better had the system worked the way it was supposed to

00:14:21.000 and let people actually decide?

00:14:23.000 They may have chosen the same thing, but it would have been their choice, not a manipulation.

00:14:30.000 The streetcar wasn't just transportation.

00:14:32.000 It was a vision on how society could move together.

00:14:36.000 Did you even know about streetcar dominance in America?

00:14:40.000 Did you even know we led the world in this?

00:14:42.000 Did you know we were the envy of the world?

00:14:45.000 Did you know how we went from the trolley and American elites choosing buses over trolleys?

00:14:58.000 I didn't for the longest time.

00:15:00.000 When I found out, I was outraged by it.

00:15:04.000 Once those rails were gone, this is the secret also that you have to pay attention to because it's repeating itself.

00:15:09.000 What did they do?

00:15:11.000 The national city lines, GM said, you know, it's going to be a lot better for the tires.

00:15:19.000 You're going to save more money.

00:15:20.000 Just rip those rails out. 0.94

00:15:22.000 You couldn't go back.

00:15:24.000 Okay.

00:15:25.000 One day the trolley came down your street.

00:15:27.000 The next day it was a giant bus and everybody adapted.

00:15:32.000 And today we don't even know what was lost.

00:15:35.000 And I think that's the biggest trick of it all.

00:15:38.000 When something slowly disappears, slow enough, people stop remembering it ever existed.

00:15:45.000 That's what you're witnessing in real time now with healthcare and energy over the last 20 years.

00:15:52.000 Healthcare, has it gotten better since Obamacare or worse?

00:15:55.000 Did Obamacare fix the problem or make it worse? 0.91

00:15:58.000 Did it live up to its promise?

00:15:59.000 No.

00:16:00.000 Because that wasn't the real goal.

00:16:03.000 Look at energy.

00:16:04.000 The Biden administration.

00:16:05.000 What did the socialist, Marxist, and climate radical politicians, lobbyists, and NGOs put into the legislation that you couldn't even see until it was passed, the Green New Deal?

00:16:16.000 Not just to close all of the coal-fired electrical plants, but they would receive federal money if they also tore those plants down.

00:16:28.000 Bring up the rails.

00:16:30.000 Bring the coal-fired plants down.

00:16:33.000 I share this with you today because we are destined to repeat history if we don't know our own history.

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00:16:56.000 They're not just trying to sell you something, but they care and they have the same values.

00:17:00.000 Most clothes, they're not designed to be like they were.

00:17:05.000 Maybe they're designed to be good for a few washes and then they quietly fall apart.

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00:17:59.000 This guy has just announced yesterday,

00:18:02.000 The Environmental Protection Agency is deregulating the largest, single largest deregulation action in U.S. history.

00:18:12.000 It changes everything.

00:18:15.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:16.000 I might have to play some sexy music behind it when he's talking because this is just,

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00:18:25.000 Lee Zeldin joins me in a second.

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00:19:29.000 Lee Zeldin, I've never had the desire, nor have I ever made out with a man, but today I would consider it.

00:19:42.000 You are the greatest man alive today.

00:19:46.000 Thank you, thank you, thank you for everything that you and Donald Trump have done and announced yesterday.

00:19:52.000 Well, listen, it was a big deal, and we're excited to be there in the Roosevelt Room to announce it.

00:19:59.000 As you pointed out, the largest act of deregulation in the history of the United States, $1.3 trillion.

00:20:06.000 And a smart guy like you who's been following Supreme Court cases, and you know the timeline, this has been a long time coming.

00:20:15.000 The left, they created this endangerment finding to hoard power in a very unique interpretation of the Clean Air Act that is not allowed under any best reading of it.

00:20:28.000 And they did trillions of dollars of regulation on mobile sources, airplanes, stationary sources, oil and gas.

00:20:35.000 There's so much control that they hoarded, and we just went out, went right for the root.

00:20:40.000 The endangerment finding, the best reading of the Clean Air Act, we know that this is a durable decision that I signed yesterday after Loper Bright and West Virginia versus EPA and Michigan versus EPA.

00:20:53.000 If you want the law to say that EPA should be regulating the heck out of greenhouse gas emissions, that is a topic for a debate and a vote in Congress, not a rogue, unelected bureaucrat at a federal agency.

00:21:07.000 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

00:21:10.000 I mean, I was just talking to the insiders, you know, during the break, and I said, you know, one reason why a Kia looks like a Genesis and a Genesis looks like a Bentley and the Bentley looks like the Mercedes is that cars can't design, you can't design cars to look any different because the regulations are so heavy.

00:21:29.000 You can't add any drag to any cars, you know, so everything starts to look meh, and that's just, that's one of the things that I don't think even people even think about, let alone, you know, your lighting, your shower head, your water pressure, the money that you're going to save just because trucks are not going to have to spend as much money.

00:21:50.340 So trucking goes down. Any idea how much money we're looking at possible savings for the American people?

00:21:56.780 Yes, a new vehicle is going to cost over $2,400 less on average now that this decision has been signed.

00:22:07.640 And on top of it all, as an added bonus, we got rid of the Obama switch, the climate participation trophy for manufacturers of adding that annoying start-stop feature in vehicles that make your car die at red light and stop sign.

00:22:22.200 That off-cycle credit, all off-cycle credits are gone.

00:22:24.940 I mean, you're talking sexy talk.

00:22:29.360 When you're talking about getting that thing out of my car, you had me at hello.

00:22:35.200 Amen.

00:22:36.800 How long before we start to see those savings?

00:22:41.780 Immediately.

00:22:42.760 Everything takes time.

00:22:44.560 Yeah, the president came in January of 2025.

00:22:48.280 This was a day one executive order.

00:22:50.080 So as far as signaling to auto manufacturers that the president was focused on it, that was a day one message that was sent.

00:22:59.460 We announced on March 12th that we were going to be pursuing this effort.

00:23:05.180 We did the public comment.

00:23:06.700 We followed all of the rules of the Administrative Procedures Act.

00:23:09.760 I read the final decision before signing it yesterday, and this thing is airtight.

00:23:17.900 I referenced Loper Bright a second ago, the Supreme Court case overturning the Chevron Doctrine.

00:23:24.180 When the 2009 endangerment finding was done, the Obama administration, the EPA administrator, was creatively interpreting the Clean Air Act to say, well, if it doesn't say I can't, I guess that means we can.

00:23:37.540 Well, the Supreme Court said in Loper Bright, that's not how it works.

00:23:41.700 You have to follow the best reading of the law.

00:23:44.260 And then I also referenced West Virginia versus EPA as an example, the major policies doctrine.

00:23:49.860 If you're going to do trillions of dollars of regulation, that is something that is for Congress.

00:23:57.220 And as far as this decision itself, it was loaded with so many mental leaps.

00:24:02.840 They said that when carbon dioxide was mixed with five other well-mixed gases, some of them not even emitted from vehicles, that it contributes, not causes, contributes to global climate change, that you won't find that in Section 202 of the Clean Air Act.

00:24:18.560 And they say global climate change endangers public health and welfare without analyzing the local and regional impacts, which is the way that it was always done for decades.

00:24:29.620 You know, when you actually dig into what the law says, the Obama administration decided, well, I guess we have to change the law.

00:24:37.780 They tried to get the votes in Congress.

00:24:39.360 And then when they couldn't get the votes, they said, well, I guess we're just going to have to do it anyway.

00:24:43.340 Well, fast forward to 2026, game over, endangerment finding is gone.

00:24:49.960 So with a lot of the stuff that Trump has done, because we can't seem to get Congress to really do anything, he's had to do it through executive order, et cetera, et cetera.

00:25:00.480 And then I worry about codifying things.

00:25:02.960 But this one is different because this one's all based on the Supreme Court wins, right?

00:25:07.480 Right, and it's also based off of what the law doesn't allow.

00:25:14.060 You know, this is a best reading of the Clean Air Act, which does not say that we should be regulating an emission to combat global climate change.

00:25:27.440 And, you know, you could ignore all of the bad guesses of Al Gore and John Kerry and others.

00:25:36.640 You can replace all of the bad, flawed assumptions on science that were made in 2009 with the most pessimistic predictions that didn't bear out as we look at facts in 2026.

00:25:49.440 Regardless of where anyone is on their opinion or the fact on the science debate, the reality is the Clean Air Act does not authorize this, that Congress would have to pass a new law in order to have trillions of dollars of regulation.

00:26:08.080 So, yeah, no, it doesn't have to be codified.

00:26:11.340 And quite frankly, because of the Supreme Court precedent, if the pendulum swung one day down the road that some far left Democrat gets elected president and they have, you know, somebody running the EPA and they're trying to go back to it.

00:26:28.080 The problem is, is that the Clean Air Act is still going to give them the same problem.

00:26:31.500 And Loper Bright is on the books and it says you can't just make it up.

00:26:36.700 And now manufacturers can make vehicles that consumers actually want rather than what politicians demand.

00:26:43.660 And when you combine this decision with the resetting of the CAFE standards with Secretary Duffy and DOT and the president, when you combine it with getting rid of the electric vehicle mandate with the three Congressional Review Act bills that Congress passed and President Trump signed,

00:27:01.940 you add the new investments that have been announced, billions of these different manufacturers, and the jobs that come with it, it all adds up for a very positive one year for the U.S. auto industry.

00:27:13.140 So is it going to make the U.S. auto harder to sell in places like the EU because they've gone full-fledged insane?

00:27:26.040 Right now, I mean, Ford F-150s, I don't think a single Ford F-150, best-selling car in America, has been sold in Europe.

00:27:34.000 And it's not just the size of it, it's all of the regulations and the tariffs that hopefully Donald Trump is, you know, really making a real dent in.

00:27:44.500 But if we relax our regulations, will it be harder for us to sell something in Europe?

00:27:52.340 Well, I'm confident that there's going to be more F-150s that are going to get built and less electric vehicles that sit on dealership lots and remaining unsold.

00:28:03.420 Now, it was a couple months ago, I was at the G7 Energy and Environment Minister's meeting that was in Toronto, Canada.

00:28:11.180 And I could tell that these European countries are really feeling the strain of how they have chosen to protect the environment over growing the economy.

00:28:25.380 See, the Trump administration believes that you could protect the environment and grow the economy.

00:28:30.000 The economic cost of the climate goals that they were set, you know, it's coming home to roost right now.

00:28:39.680 And these European countries are facing a reality where, you know, they'll make their decisions in the months and the years to come.

00:28:47.420 But they clearly are in a really bad place right now.

00:28:50.340 And they're rethinking certain policies.

00:28:53.080 Now, how much of that they say publicly versus privately, I don't know.

00:28:57.160 We'll see. But when I was in that meeting and we were having these conversations, clearly they are feeling the economic pressure of their environmental policies.

00:29:05.620 I have to tell you, I think when America becomes more than competitive, I mean, when we're going in a different direction and it's cheaper and it's better.

00:29:15.380 I just think the, you know, the world needed leadership and the world now has leadership.

00:29:21.560 And I think these countries are going to, they're just going to collapse on their own weight on things like this.

00:29:27.760 One last thing, Lee, I mean, you kind of addressed it, but I want to make sure, because I mean, this is conservative heaven right now.

00:29:34.620 But for middle class, lower class Democrats, this is really good for them as well.

00:29:44.960 Can you speak to somebody who didn't vote for Donald Trump and, you know, thinks that, oh, this is, this is, this is going to, you know, you're not listening to science.

00:29:55.520 This is about more consumer choice.

00:29:58.420 This is about having more affordable vehicles.

00:30:00.640 And by the way, when you make the trucks more affordable, that deliver all of those consumer goods that you purchase in your daily lives, the cost of living across the board is able to go down 1.3 trillion dollars.

00:30:15.100 Now, too often when you start talking millions and billions and trillions, you know, a lot of people just kind of view it all as the same.

00:30:23.800 I mean, these are, these are big numbers, 1.3 trillion dollars is one massive number when you're talking about $2,400 to purchase a new vehicle, $2,400 less.

00:30:37.240 It's more mobility, more economic mobility.

00:30:39.780 It's the ability to be able to get to work, to get to church.

00:30:42.340 It's the, it's the ability to have more money available for health care, for education and the other costs of life.

00:30:50.060 And, you know, I was, I was just asked about fossil fuels and, and, you know, the question was asked in a way as if, you know, we, we should be getting rid of it.

00:31:00.740 And, I mean, just look back at the last few weeks, the temperatures across this entire country.

00:31:06.220 Thank God, President Trump has been unleashing energy dominance.

00:31:09.320 Thank God we have baseload power, reliable coal and natural gas and, and oil that's kept our country warm.

00:31:16.460 And for the person that you're talking about, that low-income, that middle-income family, that person who's been struggling, imagine going through the last few weeks without heat.

00:31:25.500 The president's policies, especially when you add them all up, and it's only been one year, we still have three more years of this.

00:31:31.680 There's a lot that's been fixed.

00:31:33.060 There's a lot more to fix.

00:31:34.760 And I'm just really honored to have a part of it.

00:31:37.620 Well, I tell you, Lee, you were on the show, I don't know, about a year ago.

00:31:40.880 And you said you were going to do this, and you said that, you know, the president was on it, and the president had told me he was going to do this.

00:31:46.320 And it is nice to see politicians and people in government actually do what they say they're going to do.

00:31:52.460 Congratulations.

00:31:53.300 And please congratulate the president on this as well.

00:31:56.000 Great, great news.

00:31:57.380 Thanks, Glenn.

00:31:57.740 Thank you.

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00:32:05.200 So, Jason, I want to check with you.

00:32:07.480 I saw the poll go up.

00:32:08.960 We just asked the Torch insiders to decide and, you know, rank what they wanted to talk about this hour, what they wanted me to start with.

00:32:19.360 And it was Cuba, was it not?

00:32:21.020 Yeah.

00:32:21.600 Well, it's gotten closer, but 55% of the audience want Cuba.

00:32:25.360 The second closest one is Save Act at 42%.

00:32:28.260 So, most of them Cuba. 0.62

00:32:29.860 Good.

00:32:30.000 We're going to talk.

00:32:30.520 We'll talk about both of those.

00:32:33.480 Let me start with Cuba.

00:32:35.180 Let me start with something small on Cuba.

00:32:41.920 A really important statement came from the Kremlin this week.

00:32:46.020 Um, the spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, he said, Russia didn't abandon the dollar.

00:32:54.760 The dollar abandoned us.

00:32:57.320 Okay.

00:32:58.920 Now that's an interesting phrase coming from the spokesperson from the Kremlin.

00:33:04.600 Then he said, if conditions change and the dollar became practical again, countries, including Russia might resume using it again.

00:33:15.980 Wait a minute.

00:33:17.460 What?

00:33:19.100 For years, the message out of Russia has been de-dollarization.

00:33:23.780 Okay.

00:33:24.800 Now the message is more, well, we left because we had to, not because we wanted to.

00:33:31.280 Wait, hold on.

00:33:34.280 Reports based on Russian internal proposals suggest Moscow is floating a broader economic cooperation with Washington if a Ukraine settlement emerges.

00:33:44.340 Okay.

00:33:45.680 If we settle on Ukraine, what Russia is now saying is maybe we can do joint energy projects.

00:33:53.660 Maybe we can jointly invest in, in different things and have cooperation.

00:33:59.680 And maybe, you know, the settlement systems that, you know, uh, Joe Biden just blew up.

00:34:08.120 Maybe it would include dollar based transactions again.

00:34:12.840 Wait, what?

00:34:14.340 What?

00:34:15.900 This is huge.

00:34:18.720 Russia has been using the, the dollar as a weapon for a long time, a long time. 0.53

00:34:24.340 And so were we, this is the fundamental principle of bricks, you know, and local currencies.

00:34:29.680 Russia was saying that's the future.

00:34:31.700 Um, okay.

00:34:36.400 But why are you saying you might go back to it?

00:34:39.680 All right.

00:34:40.860 So there's the first piece of the puzzle.

00:34:43.380 Something's going on and it's tied to Ukraine.

00:34:48.300 Jason, Jason, tell me about the Cuban Missile Crisis.

00:34:52.800 What was that about?

00:34:54.000 What happened?

00:34:55.560 Cuban Missile Crisis?

00:34:57.440 Yes.

00:34:57.800 Well, do you want to know like the, I, I, just kind of like a, what, this is what happened

00:35:04.460 or do, or what serious?

00:35:05.580 Yeah, just, just, just basically what happened.

00:35:07.760 Basically.

00:35:08.400 And I know I'm hitting you off the, I mean, I don't know if I would recall all the details.

00:35:11.880 So go ahead and just off the top of your head, what happened?

00:35:16.100 Don't look it up.

00:35:17.220 Don't stall and look it up.

00:35:18.340 Not looking, hands off the computer.

00:35:19.920 So Cuban Missile Crisis was when they were going to start, uh, positioning, uh, nuclear 0.58

00:35:25.340 missiles on Cuba or at least missiles that could, uh, have the range to hit the United States.

00:35:31.360 And that was, uh, obviously a red flag for us.

00:35:33.760 Um, but the Soviets were responding to multiple other countries within Europe that already

00:35:39.000 had nuclear capable missiles that could target them.

00:35:41.760 So for them, it was like, this is only fair for us.

00:35:44.780 This was like, oh, nobody.

00:35:46.060 And then it happened.

00:35:47.140 Oh, good, good, good.

00:35:48.800 Do you remember the country that it came down to?

00:35:52.340 Cause it came down to one country.

00:35:56.300 Uh, nobody remembers this.

00:35:58.000 Nobody remembers this, but this is what the real argument was about.

00:36:01.360 You're right.

00:36:02.100 It was about, wait a minute.

00:36:03.160 Only fair is fair.

00:36:04.100 You got them all up and down our border. 1.00

00:36:07.040 Uh, you can't have that both ways.

00:36:09.940 You're we're going to put them off your coast.

00:36:12.040 Cause you can hit us within minutes. 0.98

00:36:13.380 We're going to be able to hit you within minutes. 0.99

00:36:15.400 And we said, nope.

00:36:18.380 And we think that this all ended.

00:36:20.880 We think this all ended because, uh, JFK was so tough and he was like, I'm putting the

00:36:26.520 ships and you're not going to cross the line.

00:36:28.020 And that's part of it.

00:36:29.500 But there was a deal.

00:36:31.360 We will remove our missiles from Turkey. 0.92

00:36:37.320 Oh, yes.

00:36:38.180 And we won't pursue, we won't pursue Turkey. 0.82

00:36:42.400 Okay.

00:36:43.360 And Turkey was on the border of the Soviet union at the time.

00:36:47.100 Um, and so that was like, that was like putting missiles in Mexico.

00:36:51.780 And so we said, we'll remove these missiles.

00:36:54.620 They're old and outdated anyway.

00:36:56.400 That's what we said.

00:36:57.200 Uh, and so we'll remove those and you remove yours and we'll call it even.

00:37:02.760 And so we both walked away a winner.

00:37:06.580 My question is, we gave up Turkey.

00:37:11.520 Now we're headed towards another blockade possibly because Russia just sent their ships, uh, some

00:37:23.260 ships down for aid and everything else down to Cuba.

00:37:26.940 Mexico is doing it.

00:37:28.540 Uh, some other country is doing it.

00:37:30.140 And we've said, you're not going in, you're not, you're not pulling into port, whether we do a blockade or not.

00:37:35.820 I don't know, but this field, it just felt very, very similar to me.

00:37:42.460 And I was talking to a friend of mine and he said, uh, Turkey, like what Turkey.

00:37:54.440 That was the end of the Cuban missile crisis.

00:37:56.060 Is it possible that Cuba, that this Cuban thing will be solved by what we do and solve in Ukraine, 0.81

00:38:04.540 just like we resolved last time with Turkey.

00:38:08.900 Is it possible that all of this, because they know Donald Trump wants to control this hemisphere.

00:38:16.280 And the last time this happened, Russia gave it up, but we had to give up something. 0.72

00:38:22.520 I'm wondering what the deal is going to be.

00:38:25.480 Cause now he's talking about, okay, maybe we can use the U S dollar again.

00:38:29.020 Maybe we can use the swift system again.

00:38:30.780 They were rebuilding.

00:38:31.900 Remember we're, we're going to rebuild some.

00:38:34.260 We're going to build something brand new to compete against that.

00:38:36.820 Now he's saying, well, we might use that.

00:38:39.840 What's, what's happening.

00:38:41.940 Does that make any sense to you, Jason?

00:38:45.960 Yeah.

00:38:46.360 So are, are you thinking that this new, uh, economic, uh, weapon basically that they're

00:38:51.620 considering with, uh, with Russia is part of this, uh, uh, this standoff basically.

00:38:57.400 Refresh my memory on what are you talking about?

00:39:01.780 New economic weapon with, uh, so this is what hit with me with the Russia story was because

00:39:08.740 they, so if you think back during the Ukraine war, when that first, you know, broke out,

00:39:13.660 they had already wanted to get off the dollar, but it was even more essential after we showed

00:39:19.720 them that their money did not matter in this system that was, you know, the, the, the post

00:39:25.140 Bretton Woods system.

00:39:25.940 Um, so we could control, we could make money just go away if we wanted to.

00:39:30.100 So for Russia, they were like, we have to get off, you know, the dollar. 0.68

00:39:33.660 That was everything they've been trying to do.

00:39:35.200 Now, this is what doesn't make sense about this for me is now they're saying, wait a minute,

00:39:40.000 let us back in, but we don't want you anywhere near Ukraine. 1.00

00:39:44.000 I mean, it almost seems like suicide on their end.

00:39:49.780 So they really must be desperate.

00:39:51.660 I don't know.

00:39:53.860 Uh, well, a, I think they are really desperate.

00:39:56.880 I think, I think this has exposed them to be the paper tiger that we never thought they

00:40:01.740 were.

00:40:02.460 Um, but they have survived and they've survived because of the ally with the axis powers, if

00:40:08.340 you will, you know, China and, and, um, and Iran and everything else.

00:40:12.000 So they're doing that.

00:40:13.580 But now they're talking about doing trade deals with the United States, talking about

00:40:18.820 oil deals with the United States and coming back on our dollar.

00:40:22.700 And it all hinges on Ukraine.

00:40:26.900 That's my point is I think Ukraine is the, is the chit on the table. 1.00

00:40:36.220 I, I, I think I completely agree with you.

00:40:40.400 And wouldn't this be a crazy development, especially in the historical reference that

00:40:44.600 I mean, the cold war eventually flipped and the Soviets were outnumbered once China was 0.64

00:40:49.660 flipped over off their side, over to the U S side.

00:40:53.120 How crazy would that be?

00:40:54.300 If it was exactly opposite, Russia gets flipped because of Ukraine, Russia gets flipped and

00:41:00.080 they now go against China.

00:41:02.700 Interesting.

00:41:03.300 And I could see that actually happening.

00:41:05.980 And it would be fascinating to see how, um, I mean, what the left is going to say.

00:41:12.780 I mean, you know, I, I remember in the eighties, the left used to just say Ronald Reagan, he's 0.89

00:41:17.560 a monster. 0.99

00:41:18.060 He's going to get us all killed and vaporized and everything else. 0.97

00:41:20.480 And it worked out the exact opposite, but it took longer than this is taking, you know, 0.75

00:41:25.280 this is recent memory.

00:41:26.340 Now you don't have to, you didn't have to wait nine years for that thing to begin to

00:41:30.240 fall apart.

00:41:31.300 Um, and, uh, this is falling apart right now.

00:41:34.960 And every single expert, which seems to be the theme of today's show, stop listening to

00:41:41.080 the experts.

00:41:42.120 Every single expert has got us into this trouble.

00:41:46.160 And now the guy who's bucking all of the experts and going an opposite direction seems to

00:41:52.520 be collapsing everything in our favor.

00:41:57.720 It's fascinating to me because I, I, I think you're right.

00:42:01.720 I think this could end with, uh, Russia not being a trusted ally by any stretch of the

00:42:09.640 imagination, but by being somebody we can do business with this is, this is, this, this

00:42:14.420 is what Washington wanted us to do.

00:42:17.520 Um, and our founders wanted us to do.

00:42:19.580 You don't have permanent allies because things change, people change, countries change.

00:42:27.620 And so what you have are business relationships.

00:42:30.880 You do trade with people and you use that trade to strengthen or weaken relationships, but

00:42:38.080 you're friends with everybody.

00:42:39.700 Okay.

00:42:40.140 You try to be, that's what Donald Trump is doing.

00:42:43.480 We're, we're not going to, you know, Hillary Clinton's like gave her the reset button. 1.00

00:42:47.260 Remember that we're best friends.

00:42:49.000 We're never going to be friends with Putin.

00:42:50.500 We shouldn't want to be friends with Putin, but we should want to be able to do business

00:42:54.300 with Putin and have some sort of a relationship where we're not throwing the whole world into

00:43:00.940 chaos.

00:43:02.000 And that's exactly what the left was doing under Biden, throwing the entire world into

00:43:08.220 chaos and pitting each other against each other.

00:43:11.040 Why go back to how does, how does every great empire end?

00:43:15.980 Every great empire ends the same way with the, with its, uh, uh, in world history with all

00:43:25.960 of the other countries, there is always a rising power and a falling power, whatever the great

00:43:33.080 power is that is falling because it's exhausted itself one way or another and made too many

00:43:38.340 mistakes.

00:43:38.800 There's a new rising power that's coming up.

00:43:41.700 And so there's always a war right towards the end because they're like, take them.

00:43:47.320 They're weak.

00:43:47.960 Take them out now.

00:43:49.380 But notice China's not doing that because they're weak themselves.

00:43:56.440 Everyone in the world, I've said this to you over and over again.

00:43:58.700 This is unique in all of human history.

00:44:01.880 This has never happened like this before.

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