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Glenn Beck sits down with Lincoln Jay, a video journalist for Rebel News, to discuss the events of January 20th and 21st in Ottawa, Canada. Lincoln was on board a trucker convoy that was evicted from the downtown core of the city.
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Today was kind of a gut check, um, with the audience, with you, um, and we took phone calls
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today. There's a couple of phone calls that I think are really, really important. David
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sticks out in my mind. He is, um, one of very few phone calls that I think really reflect the time.
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I've had about three of them in the course of this, uh, network career. And David is reflecting
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what I think many Americans are feeling right now. Listen.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Lincoln Jay, he is a video journalist for rebel news.
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He was with the trucker convoy in Canada, uh, and he saw it firsthand. Lincoln, welcome.
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Hey, thanks so much for having me on. How's it going?
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Uh, it's good. So tell me, tell me, uh, what happened is, is there any, um, was there any
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reported real violence? Was, were there any of these protesters that were out of hand at all?
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Well, I can tell you that I was on the ground since the 28th of January. So I've been here for
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quite a bit. I was here for the duration of the truckers convoy in Ottawa. And I've described it
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previously as a family environment. Uh, no exaggeration. There was kids bouncing on bouncy
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castles. There was, they had food tents set up, uh, across the city in the downtown core where they
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were feeding anybody in need, not just supporters, the truckers, but even if you were just a homeless
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person in the city, just simply someone in need, they were feeding everybody. So it's really crazy
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to see how the, the legacy media is in Canada is trying to spin this into something. It's not.
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And, uh, is the, uh, the, the, the people seem to be okay with it at first, the Canadian people,
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and then they got a little pissy because of the, you know, the bridges, et cetera. And then they seem
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to get angry with Trudeau for not doing anything. And now he's, he's really done something. What do
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the average Canadians feel about this? How is this playing to the average person in Canada?
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To be honest, it's, it's really hard to judge. Like you said, at first, it seemed like everyone
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was on board, but then people, a lot of people started to feel like it was like, it was time for
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them to leave. What I can tell you is that the locals in Ottawa, from what I've experienced on the
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ground, just walking around and being here, is it like, I would say about half of the locals I've
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talked to in Ottawa are on board with it. And half would just wanted them out. Like we're like,
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they, they just thought it was time to leave after the first weekend. So I can only tell you,
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sorry, go ahead. No, I was going to say, but out of those half,
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did they think that this was justified to get them out?
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Um, you know what? I can't comment on that because since, since the emergencies act, since we saw the
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police enforcement that we saw over the past three days, the city is completely like blocked off.
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They now say it's a red zone. So there's police checkpoints all over and you really can't come
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into the red zone, which is like a big chunk of the downtown core, unless you live or work in the
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area. So honestly, it's like, it's like a ghost town in Ottawa. So I haven't really been able to
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assess the situation other than what I'm seeing on, uh, on television through on mainstream media
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outlets. And honestly, it seems like a lot of people think that it was justified the way they,
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uh, took the protesters out. And that's what I'm gauging. So tell me what you saw.
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Well, what I saw, like I said, was a peaceful, peaceful protest with no acts of violence that
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I saw with my own eyes for almost three weeks. And then everyone had a feeling that there was
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going to be some sort of heavy police enforcement. And then all of a sudden we got a phone call and we
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said there's about 200 cops outside of the Westin hotel, which is a hotel not far from Parlin Hill.
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And then it was basically like a flick of a switch. They just went all out. I've never seen such a
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police enforcement in my life. It was, uh, it was intense pepper spray, tear gas canisters.
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As I'm sure you heard my, uh, my colleague Alexa got shot point blank in the leg with a, uh,
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with a rifle that shoots out tear gas canisters. So it was, it was nuts. And they were also
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stopping journalists from recording. I've, I've seen some really nasty, um, footage of the cops
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trying to shut journalists down. Yeah. So there's a gentleman by the name of Andrew Lawton from true
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North. He got pepper sprayed, uh, in the face. And then there's countless independent journalists here
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that, you know, just have their phone out and they're live streaming. And on the Saturday night,
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there was a block party. And, uh, so basically the protesters got pushed out of the street,
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Wellington street that runs right in front of Parlin Hill. So then they kind of regrouped and
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there was just like a, it was basically just like a dance party. They're just playing music and
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the police, we saw the same strategies. The police basically formed a line and they tried to just
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aggressively push this whole crowd out. And in the process, they were literally shooting
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people's phones. I talked to two people who had their phone shot out of their hands with rubber
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bullets. Oh my gosh. Um, the, um, the fact that these people, the police say now that, uh, they are
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going to continue this investigation and anyone involved is going to be debanked. Uh, what are people
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saying in the, in the protest? Are they worried about these things?
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Well, I can tell you firsthand, um, for a fact that it is happening. Um, I spoke with a gentleman
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who, uh, who traveled here from Winnipeg to Ottawa to, in support of the truckers.
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And I'm assuming that he just donated some money, et cetera. And, uh, he, his bank account
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is frozen. I've done a full report on him and, uh, he has no access to his funds. He cannot
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make the debit purchase. He can't use his credit card, can't take out money, can't send any sort
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of wire transfers. It's, he's, it's completely frozen. And the, the bank there, there's just
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no transparency with how long it's going to be frozen for or anything. So he's kind of just
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left in the dark with no access to his funds. He's got bills to pay. He's got a mortgage. He's
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got a daughter and ultimately he has to get home back home to Winnipeg. So he tells me he's all
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right, but it's just, it's nuts. And I can confirm that that is happening.
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How is he going to, how's he going to get home?
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That's the question, you know, and that was the question too, if, you know, if they seize
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all these truckers trucks, right, if they freeze their bank accounts, these, these, a lot of the
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truckers, the gentleman driving the trucks, the woman driving the trucks, they've driven across the
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country, you know, they've driven three, four days to get here. So if they're freezing their bank
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accounts, they're taking their rigs. They have basically nothing. How are they supposed to get
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I don't know, but I think we should, I watched these guys and they were peaceful. They were
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rational. They were creating a family atmosphere. Everything that I've seen and heard about these
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guys, you know, this nonsense of the, of the Nazi flags, there was one and the protesters kicked that
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guy out and he was the only one with his face fully covered. Why, why, why, why is that? And we
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haven't found that guy. Um, this was not a Nazi rally. Uh, this was a freedom rally. And I, I think
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we should, we should offer them a, um, uh, sanctuary here in the United States, quite honestly.
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Yeah. Um, I, I can't reiterate enough. I cannot express enough how, how peaceful the environment was
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here. I've honestly never seen anything like it. It was three weeks of straight protests every day.
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And the streets of Ottawa were completely clean. Like this just completely clean. You had it's
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the temperatures are freezing here. There's a lot of snow. Countless protesters, supporters,
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shoveling the streets of all shoveling snow on the streets of Ottawa. And like I said earlier,
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they were literally handing out food to anybody, anybody. It did not matter. So the fact that Justin
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Trudeau has literally stated that the people involved in the truckers convoy in Ottawa were
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stealing food from the homeless, it could not be any further from the truth. I don't know where,
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I simply don't know where he's getting his information from.
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Lincoln, how does this end? Does parliament meet today?
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Well, what I can tell you is that Justin Trudeau is having a press conference where I'm assuming
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he's going to address, uh, the events that took place over the weekend and the, and ultimately
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the clearing out of the convoy. So on the streets of Ottawa right now, four days ago, it was filled
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with trucks, filled with trucks. So Wellington street again, which is the street right in front
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of the parliament of Canada, just filled with trucks today. It is completely empty. So, uh,
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my honest opinion on where this goes is I think Trudeau is probably just going to continue on with how
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he's been acting and, and what he's been doing. He seems to take no responsibility. He doesn't want
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to, he didn't want to negotiate, talk to the truckers, meet them halfway in any way. He just
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stuck to his principles, stuck to his agenda, whatever that is. And, uh, he keeps moving forward.
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So it's tough to predict where this is going to go.
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Well, Lincoln, thank you very much. Stay safe and, uh, and, uh, tell all the truckers and
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anybody you meet to keep their chin up. They've done a great job keeping it peaceful and letting
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the world see who the real fascists are. Thank you so much, Lincoln. I appreciate it.
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Absolutely. Thanks for having me on Glenn. Really quick guys. If you want to check out our coverage
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on the ground in Ottawa, we have a website called convoy reports.com. There you can see what
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actually took place here in Ottawa. Thanks a lot. Convoy reports.com. By the way, um,
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we, we have Trudeau. He's the press conference has started, I guess.
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We're just going to have to wait for the translation. Cause again, I don't speak French,
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so I don't, don't know exactly what he was saying, but he didn't sound happy. Did he?
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That was, uh, interesting. Yeah. He was, he was getting his day started on the right foot.
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Yeah. Do you? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. A little coffee early in the morning. Yeah. He's,
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he's an early riser right here. Yeah, he is. And a vegan. And a vegan. Wow. Yeah.
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Hello, Glenn. Thank you for taking my call. You bet. Hey, I, I am a trucker down here in the States.
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I've been driving for 30 years and I'm not real sure what I've been, I've been trying to work
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through what I'm going to do. It's called upon to stand up. Um, I actually have friends, business
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owners, even, even people from my church saying, Hey, we will financially support you if you choose
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to go. And I'm looking at them saying, do you see what's going on? 500 miles north of us here.
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And you're, I don't know that I, I want to put them in that position. You know, we have a,
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my wife has a, uh, small business, home-based business. She's a tutor out of our home. Um,
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like, honey, you know, we could really risk losing everything if I go. But on the other
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hand, I'm really feeling called to go. I never thought Glenn that I would face what I call
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a founder's moment, but it very well may be my life, my, my fortune as small as it is,
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and my sacred honor of being labeled an insurrectionist or a terrorist. I mean, I've got to consider all
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of that. And what, what is it going to literally cost me to go down and say, you know, freedom.
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And like your caller said, yeah, they've got a blueprint. Now they've got something that they
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can implement to counter what, what the convoy would do. So yeah, I'm walking into this thing
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or literally driving into this thing, right into the teeth of the thing, knowing exactly what's
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common, but I'm still feeling somewhat compelled to go and, and take a stand.
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I will tell you, uh, this is David, we are all going to have to go through this, um, dilemma, all of us.
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Um, we, you're just one of the first to have to do it. And I think this is a really good thing,
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uh, that you're, you're going through. Uh, I mean, I'm really sorry, whichever way you decide
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you will choose a side and everybody's going to have to. And as Dietrich Bonhoeffer said,
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not to stand is to stand. You are making a commitment. If you just stay silent and I'm not
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telling you which decision you should make, everybody has to make that on their own. Um,
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but I think I will pray for you. And I would ask our audience to, to, uh, to pray for David and
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anybody like David, which way are you leaning right now, David going? I can't look at this
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point in time in American history and shrink back and think someone else is going to do it.
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I've, I've been, I really listened to the words of your intro song, you know, to stand up,
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to hold the line. It's time to do something. And Glenn, here's the, here's the thing that really
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has me, I'm wrestling with. I'm a Christian. My wife and I are believers. This isn't, uh, we,
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we don't have a let's go Brandon sign or a sticker or a flag or anything like that. We have,
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we literally do not make our politics known at all. And we're not doing this as a political
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statement. This freedom that we're fighting for is something that's guaranteed in the constitution
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that gives freedom to every American citizen. We don't care if they're gay, straight, black, purple,
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whatever. It's freedom. We're asking the government to give us back our freedom. When all of this
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happened with COVID blend, my first question was how do the American people get the power back that
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the government sees during all of this? How do they get the power back to open their businesses?
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How do they get the power back to freely associate? How do they get the power back to go back out
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and live their lives? They don't. So if we don't stand now, there's no going backwards from here. It's
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only going to go forward. So somebody's got to stand. And if at first Glenn, it was the first responders,
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it was the nurses, the doctors, you know, yeah, the truckers, we trucked all the time and just
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hauled freight, but those were the people that were in front. And now look what they're doing to
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them. If they don't get the shots. Well, now if it's the truckers turn to stand up, Glenn, I've got
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to stand. I know I have to stand. I can't, I'm just about ready to burst into tears. I can't sit here and
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watch this go by knowing I've got three adult daughters, 25, 23, and 21 that are just starting
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their lives and saying, ladies, I'm sorry. You're going to have to put up with whatever's coming.
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David, I'm maybe sorry, man. No, no, maybe three or four times in the history of this show.
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And it's always a pivot. Someone will call in and speak the words that so many are feeling. And it's
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never, it's never with bravado. It's always with deep reflection and sorrow that they speak those
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words. You are that caller for this time. Hold on, David, because I want to give you a bit of something
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to chew on, uh, over the next few days and weeks and months. David, the reason why, uh, I say there's
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always, there's always a caller and there's been maybe three in, uh, the last 20 years, 22 years of
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my broadcast, um, that S speak from the heart and speak the truth. There are a lot of callers that have
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a lot of bravado and I will have even bravado from time to time. But those are the things that led us to
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the declaration of independence. And that's good. But that, that is the summer soldier. That is the summer
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soldier. Somebody who is there when it's nice and warm and everything is great. And we're having these, you
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know, we think we're on top of the world and yeah, let's, let's break away. Let's break away from England.
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England. And then the reality sets in. And I think that's what's happened here. That's what is
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happening. At least in my house, the reality of where and when we are is beginning to set in.
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And now it's not necessarily, um, there can be no hyperbole because you're going to have to do one or
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the other. And now we're all thinking, okay, well, what does this mean for me? Because it's just up at
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the border and we're seeing the same kinds of things being done with the January 6th investigation.
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And we see how they are trying to go after people's banks, bank accounts.
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When we went into the, into the war, it was in July and we started fighting after the signing of the
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declaration of independence. And we lost every single battle until December 25th that year,
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every battle we lost, we were in retreat on December 23rd, Thomas Paine wrote these words.
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These are the times that try men souls, the summer soldier in the sunshine Patriot will in this crisis
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shrink from the service of their country, but he who stands by it now deserves the love and thanks of
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men and women. Tyranny like hell is not easily conquered. Yet we have this consolation with us.
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The harder, the conflict, the more glorious, the triumph, what we obtain too cheap.
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We esteem too lightly. It is dearness only that gives everything its value and heaven knows how to put a
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proper price upon its goods. And it would be strange indeed. If so celestial is of an article as freedom
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should not be highly rated. The government with an army to enforce her tyranny has declared that she
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has a right fill in the blank, but that's to bind us in all cases whatsoever. And if being bound in that
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matter is not slavery, then there is no such thing as slavery upon the earth.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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This is the Glenn Beck program. Welcome. We're glad you're here. It's it was fascinating to follow the
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truckers this weekend to see what was going on. Trudeau is supposed to have a press conference this
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morning. I mean, I don't know what he's going to what he's going to say. You had some footage of
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well, I have him from the weekend. Here's Trudeau on the on the truckers over the weekend.
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Right. But I don't I don't speak French Canadian. And yeah, because I think even if you speak French,
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you don't fully understand that. There's another dialect. It's a well, it's the occupied French,
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you know. So anyway, but I will tell you, it is terrifying to hear the the the police chief of
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Ottawa that was saying what they're not done yet. They got the trucks off the street, but they're
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not done yet. The protesters at this point, you know, retreat and go home. Are they going to be
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getting sort of repercussions down the road? Are you going to be sort of actively pursuing the people
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that you've been documenting and filming who are still out there protesting? What are your plans
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after this, after the protest is over? Thank you. It's a great question. And the simple answer is yes.
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If you are involved in this protest, we will actively look to identify you and follow up with
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financial sanctions and criminal charges. Absolutely. This investigation will go on for months to come.
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It has many, many different streams, both from a federal financial level, from a provincial licensing
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level, from a criminal code level, from a municipal breach of court order, breach of court injunction
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level. It will be a complicated and time consuming investigation that will go on for a period of
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time. You have my commitment that that investigation will continue and we will hold people accountable
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How did Trudeau get in there? I don't, I don't think he was at that press conference.
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Let me go to Wayne in Pennsylvania on line nine. Hello, Wayne.
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Hey, good morning, Glenn. When you say you won't recognize your country today, I really found
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that based on what's happening in Canada and what's happening here. I was stationed in Germany
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while I was in the army between 83 to 85. And the wall was still up in Czechoslovakia. And we actually
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had a trip to go there. And one of the things that they told us was do not raise your hand. Do not
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point. Do not make any loud gestures because the towers were staring at us and actually photographing
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us. And they were going to use that as propaganda. So you're basically feared or towed to fear
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what can happen to you if you kind of like point at them or make gestures. And I'm like,
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this is getting kind of eerily similar. You know, there's the freedom on that side of the, the,
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the, the wall was excruciating, look like it's painful. And, and, uh, you know, it's just amazing.
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I never thought we'd get to that spot where I feel like I'm on the border of Czechoslovakia
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again. This is crazy. Yeah. I, I will tell you the, the, the banking things that, I mean,
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it has made it good. I, I think, I, I think people are waking up even more to ESG and what's
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happening in our banking sector because of what, uh, Trudeau did, uh, when, when they can just
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shut down your banking service and they're, they're now not doing it. Um, as soon as this
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is lifted, they're saying that, you know, it'll be up to the banks, whether they feel comfortable
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doing, uh, banking services for people that have participated in this right now they're cut off,
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but you know, if they were involved in any way, they'll have to make their own decision because
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that might be risky business. That's exactly what ESG is. And if people don't get that now,
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I don't know what's going to get them to wake up because once you cut off people's livelihoods
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and their insurance, you're done. What else is there to control?
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I had a conversation. I go into people's homes for flooring and, um, I had a conversation with
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someone who was very wealthy, very well-to-do and started asking them because I had listened,
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I've listened to you for years and you came out with the reset and the ESG scores and I've asked
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them, I said, have you seen anything come across? Cause you put up that display showing, uh, the ESG
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score. And I said, have you seen anything come across your retirement account on this? And they
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said, no, what are you talking about? You know, like I was in the conspiracy stuff. I said,
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just about a year from now, you'll see. And sure enough, we are there. People who, who we were
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talking to and you know, I was able to have that because of what you, what you shared. Um, people
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are, they're, they're starting to wake up and they're coming back on. Yeah. I had no clue what
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you were talking about. I thought you were just conspiracy and here we are. We're living in,
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in a time, like I said, like border Czechoslovakia, we're going the other way. They're putting
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us on the other side of that board and for a man to call up and, and be fearful to, uh,
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be able to drive his truck, make a decision between his family or freedom is very, very
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sad. And it's very scary. It should really, um, you know, I didn't, I didn't see it that
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way, Wayne, but I should have. And it, uh, it really does say everything about what time
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we're living in. You know, I, I read something from Emmanuel Kant once. There are many things
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that I believe that I shall never say, but I shall never say the things that I do not
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believe. And I wondered what kind of a world he lived in and we're there now. Do I stand
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up and risk financial ruin for the first time in my lifetime? Our lives, our fortunes, and
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our sacred honor are meant. We mean that now, if you're going to, if you're going to choose to get
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involved, you have to know you could lose everything. And if you don't, I mean, you know, then the,
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the Bible comes to mind on, uh, you know, trying to save, trying to save what doesn't matter.
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Uh, you're going to lose everything that does. And that's what it, those, those things feel true
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to me. If you, if you sit down now, but where's the leader? That's, that's the thing we have
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missing is there is no Martin Luther King. There is, there's no one to lead at this point. And it has
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to be you. It has to be you lead your own family and your own children and, uh, just do the next
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right thing. Let me go to a John in Indiana. Hi, John. Good morning. Hey, how are you? I hope,
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hope you can hear me. Okay. I'm laying on the floor with my head between a toilet and a sink.
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No, I'm not drunk. Um, is that a normal thing for you? Is that where your phone is located or are
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you repairing? No, uh, I'm actually trying to fix it, which I recommend everyone learn how to fix
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basic. Yep. Um, my wife is a low level executive with one of the major banks and we sat down and
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discussed DSG numerous times. It's easily available on their website. Um, your book ought to be here
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within a couple of weeks, but boy, do we fight like crazy. She wants nothing to do with it.
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She's on the side of a bank. Um, I was willing to give up my job with a long time in and she just
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wants, she's going crazy. She won't buy any, but what the heck do I do?
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Uh, well, I don't, I don't know. We're all going to face the, the difference here is that she's
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working at a bank. All of us are working at companies, most likely, unless it's a small
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company that in one way or another is involved in ESG. And, um, right now the way to, uh, make sure
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that you don't lose your soul is to speak out against it. Don't, don't go to these training
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meetings where you have to admit your whiteness or whatever. Um, don't, don't, uh, don't play into
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any of the S's. Uh, you have to remain solid on that. Once you start going down that road,
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it gets easier and easier, uh, to really to lie. Don't do that. Um, however, we're all working for
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companies that are, that are somewhere or another related. It's the banking industry that is leading
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it. And I don't know which bank your wife works for, and I don't want to know because I don't
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want to hurt her. Um, but, uh, is it a, is it, is it one of the big five banks? Uh, I will say used
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to be. Okay. Um, it, it, it may not, I mean, there are banks that are playing along and they're doing
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it cause they know they have to, and there are other banks that are really running up the flagpole
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and saluting every day to it. Um, and it's, it's, it is evil. It will be used for evil. Um, unlike
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anything that we've seen, you guys have to just make your own decision. Um, and I don't, uh, you're
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not going to be able to avoid brushing up against ESG wherever you go. You will not be
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able to avoid it unless you're running your own business and then you'll run into it with
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the banks. Just keep standing brother. Just keep standing or laying underneath your sink
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in between your toilet and your sink, fixing things. We don't know that that's not where
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his phone was located though. I mean, he wasn't clear. No, I mean, that's just where you go
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to pay calls. Sometimes I got to make a call. Yeah. Okay. You need the phone? It's, uh, under
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the, uh, bathroom sink right there. Just put your head between the toilet and the sink and