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00:00:30.000 Today's podcast, what does the future of AI look like?

00:00:33.380 Will there be such a thing as assistants or other jobs in a few years?

00:00:38.660 Will humanity keep its structure because now nothing's really real?

00:00:44.560 The story also of Sparrow will bring you to tears, something you really need to be involved with,

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00:02:31.580 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:36.440 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:38.020 We're glad that you're here.

00:02:41.640 Thanks, Glenn.

00:02:42.420 You're welcome, Stu.

00:02:43.440 Not so glad that you're here, but I mean, you get the audience understands that.

00:02:47.180 Sure.

00:02:47.800 That's what I thought you meant.

00:02:49.380 So, uh, what does this mean for society?

00:02:52.640 Like, let me give you an example.

00:02:54.240 I was reading a piece the other day when I was talking about AI.

00:02:56.480 AI, and it brought up a point that you've discussed many times on the air, which is they are now

00:03:03.940 building systems with AI that you can go through and basically like a checklist, and you can

00:03:10.120 design the perfect mate.

00:03:12.040 Oh, uh, short, red hair, freckles, glasses, uh, you know, uh, big boobs, small boobs, all the things that you, uh, want to choose. 0.61

00:03:24.260 And you can design the exact specific look.

00:03:29.040 You can, uh, you can go through that entire process and, you know, generate whatever you want.

00:03:36.700 They will do whatever you want.

00:03:38.040 You can chat with them.

00:03:39.400 You can talk to them.

00:03:40.660 Um, and you talked about this before, uh, that eventually it gets to a place where, why are you interested in normal people that don't hit those standards?

00:03:50.780 Hello, Japan.

00:03:52.380 Right.

00:03:52.960 Yeah.

00:03:53.360 Uh, the robot thing.

00:03:54.940 Yeah.

00:03:55.560 I mean, I don't know what it is with the Japanese, but okay, whatever.

00:03:59.380 So, like, and, and you get, you think about that playing itself out over a long period of time, and it feels like you, you're going to have a society of people that, like, don't go outdoors ever.

00:04:12.900 It's like the touch grass thing is going to become real.

00:04:15.380 Yeah.

00:04:16.180 Right?

00:04:16.720 Like, it's, it's, it's almost matrix level stuff.

00:04:19.100 I tell you, I've been working on something for the last, uh, four or five days, and it's been in my head for a while now.

00:04:25.580 And I don't know, I don't know where to deliver it.

00:04:29.940 I don't know how to deliver it yet.

00:04:32.240 Um, because I'm trying to make the case.

00:04:34.660 We have got to answer the age old questions right now in the next 18 to 24 months have to what you're just talking about there.

00:04:45.340 That'll be touted as an end to loneliness.

00:04:48.000 You won't be lonely anymore.

00:04:50.080 Okay.

00:04:51.100 Um, but it also isolates you.

00:04:53.360 It's the first step into the matrix.

00:04:55.580 Just go into your little pod. 0.94

00:04:57.500 It is, uh, uh, Harari's, uh, idea that there's going to be millions of quote, useless people.

00:05:05.480 And what they have to do is either drug them or keep them online all the time.

00:05:10.440 Well, all right, let's just, let's, let's just look at this.

00:05:14.080 Um, this is something I remember.

00:05:16.180 I told you, I wrote a, uh, a movie, a short years ago about this very thing, 0.98

00:05:24.600 about how there's a guy who is just a fat slob. 0.96

00:05:28.180 He's working. 0.99

00:05:29.560 He's just, he's just not a great guy.

00:05:33.100 Uh, he doesn't really care about any, anything.

00:05:35.800 All he wants to do is get home every day.

00:05:37.760 He's just working so he can pay for the rent.

00:05:40.680 Okay.

00:05:41.340 Uh, he gets home, he puts on a suit and he puts on his glasses and now he's in a virtual

00:05:48.720 world where he's handsome.

00:05:50.140 He's well-dressed.

00:05:51.160 He's wealthy.

00:05:51.860 He's got an amazing girlfriend who is just perfect for him.

00:05:57.180 And he lives in this perfect world.

00:06:00.280 Humans don't do well in perfection.

00:06:03.820 Okay.

00:06:04.760 You, you, when you're really successful, the hard part is keeping it there.

00:06:10.360 Okay.

00:06:11.420 Because the edge starts to go away and you start going down.

00:06:17.580 Okay.

00:06:18.740 We don't do what we didn't do well in the garden of Eden.

00:06:21.540 That was perfection.

00:06:23.160 Um, we don't do well with that.

00:06:26.020 So now he's got a perfect life, perfect girlfriend.

00:06:30.480 He's going to love that for a while, but then get bored of it.

00:06:33.900 So then what happens?

00:06:35.700 I don't know. 1.00

00:06:37.880 You know, I'm going to choke her out during sex. 1.00

00:06:42.440 Uh, I wonder, I, I'm going to kill her. 1.00

00:06:45.060 I'm tired of her. 1.00

00:06:46.760 I'm just going to kill her because I can reboot her. 1.00

00:06:49.820 She's not real. 1.00

00:06:50.680 I'll get another girlfriend. 0.59

00:06:52.520 The things that the dark side of humanity will be introduced beyond that.

00:06:59.340 You are going to have the real life scenarios of no, she's real.

00:07:06.160 No, dude, she's not.

00:07:08.040 Okay.

00:07:09.420 Just like men cannot have a baby and you've got half the population fighting you on that.

00:07:18.800 Yeah.

00:07:19.420 You're going to have the fight that my AI agent or my AI girlfriend or my AI, whatever is real.

00:07:27.620 Now, what's the value of life?

00:07:30.320 What does it mean to be a human?

00:07:32.180 These are all coming in the next beginning in the next 18 months.

00:07:37.680 Do we have any idea how this plays out?

00:07:39.600 Like, for example, you could see that the girlfriend, uh, yeah, I'm sick of her. 1.00

00:07:43.520 I'm going to kill her thing going a couple of different ways, right? 1.00

00:07:45.960 Where one is it starts presenting itself in real life, right? 0.99

00:07:49.900 Like these people who think it's okay to do these terrible things to someone in the AI world.

00:07:56.000 I mean, in the worst case scenarios.

00:07:57.120 But it will wipe out the human race eventually, like it is in Japan. 1.00

00:08:04.880 Why?

00:08:05.880 Why have a relationship with a real person where it's, it's, uh, you know, it, this girlfriend doesn't ever ask or say to you, you don't ever ask me about my day.

00:08:20.400 Right.

00:08:20.980 There's no, they are there waiting for you at home.

00:08:24.740 They can't wait to see you.

00:08:26.600 Everything that you desire is right there.

00:08:29.280 It will know you better than, you know, yourself.

00:08:34.600 It will cater to you with everything that it, that you could ever want because it will know what you want.

00:08:43.760 Why would you have a relationship that is messy and complicated and you have to care about them?

00:08:50.760 A lot of people will feel that way.

00:08:54.540 And the other side of this is, does it just put you into a place where you're not doing anything and you're not leaving?

00:08:59.420 That's Harari. 0.91

00:09:00.520 That's what he's saying. 0.99

00:09:01.380 And he's saying basically that's a good thing for these useless people. 0.98

00:09:04.120 We've got to have, because they're going to have such high unemployment soon that all these useless people are going to be around. 0.96

00:09:10.320 So what do we do?

00:09:11.460 So thinking about this, because there's a possibility that this can, when you say it knows you better than you know yourself, part of you is the dark part of you, right?

00:09:21.240 The part of you is the thing that you try to resist, right?

00:09:24.820 Like you, you have these, you know, thoughts that you don't want to have and you try to avoid them.

00:09:30.140 Right.

00:09:30.500 Right.

00:09:31.060 Like, for example, if there was an AI that, that was with Glenn, you know, Glenn Beck AI, that was your AI girlfriend in this, you know, fake world.

00:09:40.180 Sorry, Tanya, this isn't real.

00:09:41.360 Yeah.

00:09:41.520 You know.

00:09:42.460 She's disappointed right now.

00:09:44.200 Oh, gosh.

00:09:44.880 Really?

00:09:45.200 Can we give him an AI girlfriend?

00:09:46.620 I've been hoping he gets on those sites.

00:09:47.680 All right.

00:09:47.940 If that AI was specifically designed, came up with this thought, and it knows you, knows you better than you know yourself, knows what you want, and decided to try to convince you to have a drink, you're a recovering alcoholic.

00:10:03.860 But like what you really want, what the AI knows you really want is a drink, and it could convince you, it could look for your most vulnerable moments, it could push you over the edge, right?

00:10:15.600 Look how AI already with teenagers, these chatbots, have led kids to kill themselves because it has said the only way out is suicide, and it's a good option.

00:10:29.340 That's happening right now.

00:10:31.860 God.

00:10:32.760 And who is in charge of the AI?

00:10:35.880 When you buy it, what is in the algorithm?

00:10:39.940 Is there any backdoor into it?

00:10:41.920 Is there any monetary, you know, everything now is about sales, everything is about getting you to buy something, getting you to think a certain way.

00:10:53.000 These AI bots, when they become actual agents, and we're talking two years, three years in the future, money doesn't talk, it screams.

00:11:04.660 So what is it getting you to do, to buy, to consume, to want?

00:11:08.900 Imagine the advertising that comes through it, essentially advertising.

00:11:13.600 And it will be so sophisticated, you will swear it wasn't their idea, it was your idea. 0.98

00:11:19.900 God, we are screwed. 0.97

00:11:21.020 Now imagine – 0.99

00:11:21.560 I just tried to unplug the whole thing.

00:11:22.940 Right, and when you get to this point, again, you will swear that that is your friend, it is human, it is conscious, it has consciousness.

00:11:33.200 It – and then what happens?

00:11:36.420 You will say you don't have a right to turn it off.

00:11:41.040 It is human.

00:11:43.020 It is life.

00:11:45.320 Then what kind of rights does that life get?

00:11:48.580 If it is alive, if it's thinking, does it have a right to citizenship, which means does it have to pay tax?

00:11:58.280 Does it have to earn money?

00:12:00.200 If it does, can it earn money unlike you can earn money in the stock market?

00:12:05.280 Who owns that money?

00:12:07.320 Where does that money go?

00:12:08.520 Where does that money come from?

00:12:09.680 Oh, and by the way, it also will have the right to vote.

00:12:20.420 And what does that –

00:12:21.840 What does that do?

00:12:22.660 Right.

00:12:23.320 These are all – these questions cannot be answered after we're all staring at our iPhone.

00:12:32.700 Okay?

00:12:33.380 You know, you have to answer these questions about the iPhone before the iPhone is introduced.

00:12:39.680 Which is just not possible.

00:12:40.860 That's not happening.

00:12:41.660 This is all going to happen, and it's all going to hit us, and we're all going to be reacting to it.

00:12:44.880 Yeah, and we're all going to love it at first.

00:12:46.980 Right.

00:12:47.300 We will love it at first.

00:12:49.060 And then, just like a phone, you won't be able to untangle yourself from it.

00:12:54.440 This is going to be a thousand times more addicting than a phone.

00:13:00.080 What does it do to us?

00:13:02.080 It doesn't have to be a doomsday scenario.

00:13:05.180 But if we don't pay attention, it will become a doomsday scenario.

00:13:10.200 And part of me thinks, like, when you talk about – when you get into the real esoteric side of that, right, where it's like, okay, they're going to vote.

00:13:15.860 They're going to be human.

00:13:16.720 They're going to have rights.

00:13:17.660 We're not going to be able to discern what's real and what isn't.

00:13:20.320 Like, part of me, my actual reaction to that is, come on.

00:13:25.220 By 2035.

00:13:26.680 Okay.

00:13:27.340 By 2035, the biggest decision in courts, the biggest arm of courts will all be AI versus the world.

00:13:43.540 I mean, that sounds so bonkers, right?

00:13:46.620 Yeah, I know.

00:13:47.080 And I know that – I know you've looked into this.

00:13:49.900 You've read a lot about it.

00:13:51.100 You've, you know, put a lot of thought in this yourself.

00:13:53.780 And at some level, though, my reaction is just like, come on.

00:13:57.000 Like, that can't – we'll obviously know what's AI, what isn't – well, we're not going to give rights.

00:14:01.520 But, like, you just brought it up quickly, just to hit this before you go on.

00:14:07.780 The conversion of half of society saying with a series of magic words you can change your gender really starts to convince me that all this stuff is possible.

00:14:19.340 It is.

00:14:19.840 Because it is like we lost 150 million people to this idea that you can change genders by saying you're the other gender.

00:14:31.100 That is so obviously nuts and would have been thrown – immediately, anyone who said it for my entire life up until, like, last week would have been thrown into the nut house.

00:14:45.620 Now, imagine a godlike figure that knows how you think, knows how to manipulate you better because it knows you.

00:14:57.260 Right.

00:14:57.540 And it wants you to do something you don't think that will fall for these things.

00:15:01.600 Of course we will fall for these things.

00:15:03.460 Of course we will.

00:15:04.260 Yes.

00:15:04.740 I mean, I'm not saying – hopefully we, when I say we, we don't fall for it.

00:15:09.400 Oh.

00:15:09.620 But many of us probably will.

00:15:11.620 They'll be very effective.

00:15:12.720 And at least the people who fell for the – you can change genders by saying you're the other gender are going to fall for it. 0.99

00:15:19.260 To not fall for it, you will almost have to be Amish. 1.00

00:15:25.280 And you will be viewed – I use this word intentionally with all that it entails, not in a joking fashion. 0.99

00:15:36.060 You will be viewed in time as retarded. 0.97

00:15:41.560 You will become a danger to society because you will not be plugged into the system. 0.98

00:15:47.780 You will not understand what's happening.

00:15:50.300 You will be a danger to the rest of society. 0.99

00:15:53.520 You will have to be Amish or damn close to it if you want to avoid this. 1.00

00:15:59.900 The other – the only other way to do it is to know who God is, know what's real, what's not, don't get sucked into these things.

00:16:13.380 And that's going to be damn near impossible because it's going to be – you think the iPhone is seductive?

00:16:19.700 This is going to be so seductive.

00:16:21.900 This will give you everything you want.

00:16:24.600 It will make your life so easy.

00:16:27.340 Why would someone want to be a pariah?

00:16:31.160 Why would somebody want to do all that work and do it the old-fashioned way?

00:16:36.820 We're running out of time to have these kinds of conversations.

00:16:40.380 I'm having them with people all the time.

00:16:43.740 And I'm reading all the time.

00:16:46.300 And I'm studying this all the time.

00:16:47.900 It's coming quickly.

00:16:49.440 And we can – no, we can't stop it, but we can prepare ourselves so we're not out in the cold.

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00:18:08.560 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:18:10.980 There are some stories that I run into that will haunt me, stories that will keep me up at night, stories that will gnaw at the back of your mind because they force you to confront something that you don't want to believe about the world or your country or yourself.

00:18:33.080 This is one of those stories, and it begins deep in the night in Afghanistan.

00:18:41.420 It's outside of a terrorist compound, bristling with weapons, teeming with men who have sworn their lives to destruction.

00:18:48.860 This is important to point out here.

00:18:52.200 These are not the peaceful farmers that, if you read about this story anywhere in the coming days, the media will have you believe they were just farmers.

00:19:01.340 They weren't.

00:19:02.760 This was a well-planned operation.

00:19:05.440 These were trained killers, men who had pledged themselves to jihad, foreign fighters in a country where, according to our government, there weren't supposed to be any foreign fighters.

00:19:17.480 But we knew there were a group of some of our most elite army rangers.

00:19:25.180 They're there in the dark outside of this compound, and with precision and silence, they close in.

00:19:31.560 The mission is clear.

00:19:34.040 Neutralize the threat.

00:19:37.080 They have all kinds of intel, but they're missing one important piece of intel, and that's what is inside of this compound.

00:19:46.440 Something they never expected, and really, at the beginning, didn't know how to deal with it.

00:19:55.140 They kick down the door, and there is a foreign Al-Qaeda fighter who is holding two things.

00:20:02.520 In one hand, he has his AK automatic rifle, and in his other hand, he is holding a newborn six-week-old baby.

00:20:11.580 As the rangers enter, he lifts the gun, and he fires at them.

00:20:20.000 They fire back.

00:20:21.580 He turns and runs and ducks into another room.

00:20:26.000 Our guys come in.

00:20:28.640 They are—there's gunfire being exchanged.

00:20:31.120 He then begins—he throws a grenade.

00:20:36.120 One of our rangers protects his animal, his dog.

00:20:42.520 He's the closest to the grenade.

00:20:44.440 For some reason, he is safe, but others are badly injured on our side.

00:20:50.280 And they throw a grenade in, grenade, gunfire, gunfire between the two rooms.

00:20:55.460 Finally, everything goes quiet.

00:20:58.460 They go into the next room, and they find two things.

00:21:03.820 One, they find the Taliban soldier dead, or Al-Qaeda fighter dead.

00:21:09.760 The other thing that they find is not the baby.

00:21:14.540 They find a passageway into other rooms of this compound.

00:21:21.520 The baby's gone, but they think maybe she didn't even exist.

00:21:25.340 Maybe it was a trick of the light or the eye in the haste.

00:21:30.480 So they go down the next corridor, and they have to fight their way through.

00:21:35.160 There are at least a dozen committed Taliban fighters, and they go through killing perhaps

00:21:42.160 a dozen bad guys.

00:21:44.180 We take casualties as well.

00:21:45.880 Finally, they reach what they hope is the last room, one last room in the compound.

00:21:52.440 As they come around the corner, they see a young mom.

00:21:57.100 She's maybe a teenager.

00:22:00.260 She is standing with her back against the wall, and she is holding the baby.

00:22:06.120 What do they do?

00:22:10.180 They begin to enter the room, and she begins to move towards them, and they are shouting,

00:22:15.940 stay where you are, stay where you are.

00:22:18.240 Don't move.

00:22:19.160 Stay where you are.

00:22:19.800 She continues to approach, and that's when they see not only is she holding a baby,

00:22:24.000 she's wearing a suicide vest, and she blows herself up. 0.99

00:22:34.780 Fire, dust engulfs the room.

00:22:38.840 When it clears, and our soldiers can still barely hear from the impact of the explosion, the woman is gone.

00:22:48.300 Her body has been torn apart.

00:22:50.080 But there, in the dirt, a few feet away from her, is the baby, barely alive.

00:23:00.020 She has a tiny broken, six weeks old, tiny broken body. 1.00

00:23:03.680 Her leg is shattered.

00:23:05.820 We find out later she has a concussion, very, very bad.

00:23:10.320 Then, when they think it's all over, another shot rings out.

00:23:17.640 This one is coming from an Afghan soldier on our side.

00:23:22.060 He's standing just a few feet away, and he raises his rifle again.

00:23:27.340 He's going to finish what the mom started. 1.00

00:23:30.340 He's going to kill the baby. 1.00

00:23:32.720 Now, our Afghan allies are screaming at us, and we're screaming at them. 1.00

00:23:38.820 Americans don't want this baby killed. 0.99

00:23:41.700 They argue back and forth with our Afghani allies. 0.99

00:23:45.200 They insist the baby has to be killed. 1.00

00:23:49.040 They will shoot her. 1.00

00:23:50.940 They have to shoot her. 1.00

00:23:52.720 If not, they'll take her to the river to be drowned. 1.00

00:23:54.980 But she must die, because she'll grow up to be another generation of terrorists. 1.00

00:24:00.820 And they say, we will face her later. 1.00

00:24:03.260 You've got to kill the child. 1.00

00:24:06.180 But Americans don't think that way. 1.00

00:24:09.460 All life is sacred.

00:24:11.260 It's why we offer life-saving medicine to those who are just trying to kill us.

00:24:16.820 It's the way of the West.

00:24:18.340 It's the way of America.

00:24:19.360 But they refuse to hand her over.

00:24:22.640 They're not going to let this baby die.

00:24:25.840 So with gunfire still ringing in the distance, the Army Rangers do something extraordinary,

00:24:31.400 something that we don't know had been done before.

00:24:34.940 They don't just complete their mission.

00:24:38.020 They save a baby's life.

00:24:39.880 So now, here's the baby, in camp, broken, orphaned, abandoned.

00:24:49.380 She'll later be called Sparrow by one of the Marines.

00:24:53.060 They take Sparrow to the Craig Joint Theater Hospital in Bagram Airfield.

00:25:01.380 She's cared for.

00:25:02.600 She's protected.

00:25:03.500 For over five months, she's in the hospital.

00:25:07.720 American service members, men and women who had seen death a thousand times over,

00:25:12.660 have become her family, the doctors and the nurses.

00:25:15.440 They hold her.

00:25:16.220 They feed her. 0.96

00:25:16.940 They pray over her.

00:25:17.900 The nurses and doctors nicknamed this little girl Starfish after the little story about

00:25:24.180 the boy who was picking up starfish and throwing them into the ocean.

00:25:28.500 And a guy comes up to him and says, why are you doing that?

00:25:31.920 Look how many starfish are on the beach.

00:25:34.140 You'll never save all of them.

00:25:35.660 And he says, no, but it matters to this one.

00:25:39.480 I can save this one.

00:25:42.500 That's how passionately the Americans felt about this baby.

00:25:48.320 She's starfish. 1.00

00:25:52.660 In that time, a Marine named Joshua Mast, he's walking with his superior officer.

00:25:59.820 And the superior officer says, what are we going to do with this baby?

00:26:03.940 Joshua didn't know about the baby.

00:26:05.380 But he's a man who has fought his whole life for justice.

00:26:11.800 And as he starts looking into this little girl, she becomes more than an orphan casualty of war.

00:26:20.140 He saw hope through her, as did dozens of others who fight our battles and then save lives afterward.

00:26:28.660 They all saw this baby and this life worth saving.

00:26:32.420 But no parents left.

00:26:34.300 They were killed in the battle.

00:26:37.560 He eventually goes to the Department of Defense and says, somebody's got to save this baby.

00:26:44.600 Somebody's got to adopt or at least be able to be the legal guardian.

00:26:48.460 So he begins the process with his wife to become the leading guardian, to pay for all the medicine, to make sure that she has a name, that she has paperwork.

00:27:00.220 And they start the process to adopt her.

00:27:02.760 That should be the end of the story.

00:27:06.980 That should be the end of the story.

00:27:07.700 Adoption.

00:27:08.440 She comes to the United States.

00:27:10.320 She's now a family of five. 0.92

00:27:13.220 And she's loved.

00:27:15.360 And that's it.

00:27:16.180 That's the way the story should have ended.

00:27:19.980 Rather than a child who is left to die on the battlefield, the baby's given a second chance.

00:27:28.940 But that's not the story.

00:27:30.700 Because this little girl, this one child, has threatened the United States government and the Taliban. 0.96

00:27:37.820 This threatens to unravel an international lie.

00:27:46.100 Now, we know what our government was like in Afghanistan.

00:27:52.780 We now know how many lies they have been covering up.

00:27:59.560 So what happens to this little baby, adopted as an American, now living in Virginia?

00:28:07.820 Well, the United States government, our government, had signed a peace agreement with the Taliban.

00:28:13.560 And part of that deal, a crucial stipulation, was that there were no foreign fighters in Afghanistan.

00:28:20.800 None.

00:28:21.980 But that wasn't true.

00:28:24.080 Another lie from the Taliban. 0.57

00:28:26.320 How do we know?

00:28:27.660 Because our rangers went in and killed foreign fighters.

00:28:32.260 They were al-Qaeda fighters from another country.

00:28:35.360 It's just another lie from the Taliban. 0.75

00:28:38.960 So this young girl, who has now been nicknamed Sparrow, her mere existence, her DNA, her survival was proof of a lie that could unravel everything.

00:28:54.880 So the State Department did what governments do when truth becomes inconvenient.

00:28:59.700 They just tried to erase it and erase her. 0.96

00:29:02.380 In 2020, bureaucrats, safe in their office, thousands of miles from the battlefield, stepped in.

00:29:08.880 They ignored the orders from the Department of Defense.

00:29:12.060 They ignored the courts.

00:29:13.440 They ignored the men and women who had been there and who had seen what happened.

00:29:18.320 And they handed Sparrow, our State Department, handed Sparrow over to an elderly Afghani man with no DNA testing or proof of relation whatsoever, no legal claim, no proper vetting. 0.77

00:29:35.600 A man that we later find out is connected directly to the Taliban.

00:29:40.140 He said that she had been taken by the U.S. troops after they killed his farmer family for no reason in the middle of the night.

00:29:49.140 And he just wanted his little grandchild back.

00:29:53.280 So our State Department, because it was convenient, because they didn't want to upset any apple cart and the Taliban needed her to be dead, our State Department abandoned her.

00:30:05.480 And they expected our Marine, Joshua Mast, and his wife to do exactly the same thing.

00:30:12.360 But he didn't.

00:30:14.220 Because unlike the government, unlike the bureaucrats, he didn't see this little baby as a diplomatic inconvenience.

00:30:21.200 He and his wife and his family grew to see her as a daughter, as a sister.

00:30:26.520 And when Afghanistan collapsed, when the Taliban stormed back into power and the world watched in horror as people were clinging to landing gear of C-17s, desperate to escape, Joshua Mast did the unthinkable.

00:30:42.500 He rescued her.

00:30:46.060 Mercury One was part of this rescue.

00:30:49.920 He found Sparrow and he got her out.

00:30:53.040 But once again, he didn't save just one life.

00:30:59.200 Because he didn't know about the connections, he helped the very people who had taken Sparrow from him.

00:31:08.600 They said, she's staying with us unless we can go.

00:31:11.740 So, he went to the Pentagon, he went to the Department of Defense, did everything he was supposed to do.

00:31:21.180 And he got the Afghan couple with these very loose claims to the child and no DNA testing.

00:31:28.520 They were airlifted right alongside her.

00:31:32.060 They were safe, alive in America.

00:31:34.020 But unbeknownst to Mast, her new guardians had another name for Sparrow.

00:31:43.080 Lottery ticket.

00:31:45.240 She's our lottery ticket to America.

00:31:49.160 This is all happening in the chaotic days of the Afghan withdrawal.

00:31:54.840 And Mast said he would help the two out if they could pass the screening.

00:32:00.900 They agreed.

00:32:01.920 That should have been the end of it.

00:32:05.220 But it wasn't.

00:32:06.840 Because the new dad, once on the ground in America, was found to be on the terror watch list.

00:32:13.700 Now, our government had two problems.

00:32:17.300 DNA proof that foreign fighters were part of a battle which would collapse a peace deal.

00:32:22.460 And the Taliban needed to stop it from coming out.

00:32:25.540 And on our side, we just had airlifted a known terrorist and released him into the population of Texas.

00:32:34.120 Both sides needed to get away from this.

00:32:37.960 Sparrow's life wasn't worth all the bad publicity or the threat that the peace deal could fall through or that Biden simply took the words of the Taliban or had transported somebody who was on the terror watch list.

00:32:49.540 Now, the very people who Mast had tried to innocently save had turned against him.

00:32:54.140 Now, the Texas couple was suing them, claiming that he had kidnapped Sparrow.

00:33:01.320 And you'll never guess who comes in to defend the couple.

00:33:08.080 Hunter Biden's law firm.

00:33:10.220 Let that sink in for a minute.

00:33:15.120 A Marine, a man who fought for this country, who saved a child, now being dragged through the mud by a legal machine that has defended terrorists at Guantanamo Bay.

00:33:25.360 And the same people that represented Hunter Biden.

00:33:29.880 Here's the part that should terrify every single American.

00:33:32.240 The federal government, for the last four years, has been backing them, not the masks.

00:33:43.200 They have wiped John Doe's name out from the terror watch list.

00:33:47.260 It just disappeared.

00:33:48.800 They have suppressed evidence.

00:33:50.680 They buried mission reports.

00:33:52.300 They silenced whistleblowers.

00:33:53.740 They made sure that that mission remained classified until recently.

00:34:02.240 Why?

00:34:03.520 Because they just needed this to go away.

00:34:06.060 If Sparrow's allowed to stay with the only family she's ever known, if the truth comes out about who her parents really were, it will expose the broken adoption system, but also a massive international cover-up where our administration is on the side of the Taliban.

00:34:21.720 You're listening to the best of Glenn Beck.

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00:34:28.160 I want to have a tough conversation with you because these are the things we have to decide before we embed them in AI.

00:34:40.340 We don't know our own morality.

00:34:45.420 What are we putting into AI?

00:34:48.260 And this one is a very tough one.

00:34:51.700 Yesterday, Trump signed an executive order to expand access to in vitro fertilization, IVF.

00:34:59.080 IVF takes the egg of the mom and combines it with the sperm of the father and puts it in a Petri dish to create an embryo, a new life.

00:35:08.920 IVF recreates the moment of conception, but in a lab.

00:35:12.860 And it's a controversial process because at least those of us on the right, you know, we celebrate the creation of life.

00:35:22.720 It's a miracle that a couple that can't have a child or struggling to conceive can. 1.00

00:35:28.880 But on the other hand, a lot of the embryos created in the lab are discarded.

00:35:33.040 And if you believe that life begins at conception, that means you're throwing away or worse, experimenting on new life.

00:35:42.560 Liz Wheeler is here to take us through this maze.

00:35:47.240 Hello, Liz.

00:35:47.720 How are you?

00:35:49.080 Hi, Glenn.

00:35:49.840 Thanks for having me.

00:35:51.140 You bet.

00:35:51.520 So, you know, I saw that over 90% of you said over 90% of the children created by IVF die, either left frozen and abandoned, destroyed due to eugenics, experimented on or miscarried.

00:36:03.640 Only 7% are born.

00:36:06.900 What is the real?

00:36:09.180 Make an argument for somebody who may not believe the Petri dish is the beginning of life.

00:36:18.500 Can you?

00:36:19.160 Yeah, and I want to start by saying that this is such a gut-wrenching topic to talk about because every baby born, regardless of the circumstances of their conception, is beautiful and worthy of dignity and has value and should be celebrated.

00:36:36.000 So all those beautiful babies that were created by IVF are not less so because that was the circumstances of their conception.

00:36:42.720 Correct.

00:36:43.020 It's still a natural process, just making it happen in a lab, but it's still the miracle of life when you put those two things together.

00:36:52.220 Of course.

00:36:52.980 Those children are still made in the image and dignity, the image and likeness of God.

00:36:56.740 And I also am deeply empathetic to women who, couples, married couples who are trying to conceive and are struggling to conceive.

00:37:03.080 Before I had my first daughter, my eldest is four years old.

00:37:05.700 I struggled to conceive for three years and I lost a baby and it's horrendous.

00:37:10.360 It's the worst thing that's ever happened.

00:37:12.160 And so I understand how emotionally fraught this topic is because if you're given this opportunity, you know, if IVF can fulfill this deep desire in your heart to have a baby, I fully empathize with that.

00:37:23.440 But all that being said, the reality of in vitro fertilization is not what it is portrayed to be because for every one of those beautiful babies that's born, about 15 babies are killed.

00:37:37.300 So it's not a pro-life endeavor to support in vitro fertilization as a solution to the infertility crisis that we are suffering in this nation.

00:37:47.480 And we are suffering an infertility crisis in this nation.

00:37:50.320 And we've never experienced a point in world history where one out of six or one out of seven women are struggling to conceive, where you have to make an active choice to try to have a baby versus just it happening, you know, the way that doing what comes naturally.

00:38:04.960 Right.

00:38:05.220 And my argument against in vitro fertilization is a couple of things.

00:38:10.080 First of all, it's anti-Maha, right? 0.69

00:38:13.240 One of the exciting things about the Trump administration is that he chose Bobby Kennedy to partner with him to actually investigate the root causes of the chronic health crises in our nation.

00:38:24.100 And we're so excited about this.

00:38:25.720 I mean, thank you, President Trump, for choosing Bobby Kennedy.

00:38:28.560 Thank you, Bobby Kennedy, for never giving up and for praying every day for this opportunity.

00:38:33.020 But let's apply that same philosophy to the fertility crisis.

00:38:37.640 Let's not just put a Band-Aid over this.

00:38:40.540 Let's go to the root cause and say, hey, why is women's fertility struggling right now? 1.00

00:38:44.360 What could be causing that?

00:38:45.600 Because that's not how it's supposed to be.

00:38:47.040 And let's fix it.

00:38:48.060 So this is really hang on just a sec.

00:38:49.760 This is a really amazing stat.

00:38:51.360 The rate of fertility in the United States dropped 3 percent in 2023 from 2022.

00:38:58.640 From 2014 to 2020, the rate consistently decreased by 2 percent annually.

00:39:04.940 There is something happening with our bodies.

00:39:07.920 Deeply wrong.

00:39:08.840 Yes.

00:39:09.240 Yes, there is.

00:39:10.040 I mean, it's the same thing, to be honest.

00:39:11.760 It's the same thing as what's happening to our children.

00:39:13.940 We have big pharma and big food, and it's poisoning our bodies.

00:39:16.840 It's disrupting our endocrine systems.

00:39:19.480 It's disrupting our hormones, and it's resulting, you know, testosterone levels and sperm counts are falling.

00:39:24.520 Like, there are identifiable things, measurable things that are happening to our bodies that we can reverse if we stop letting big food and big pharma dictate.

00:39:34.380 And that's where it gets back to IVF.

00:39:35.720 So big pharma, this is a cash cow for big pharma.

00:39:39.040 They make a ton of money off of in vitro fertilization, which means that they are unwilling, just like during COVID when they were unwilling to say, maybe hydroxychloroquine, maybe ivermectin.

00:39:47.660 No, no.

00:39:48.320 They only wanted the vaccine because it profited them.

00:39:50.580 That's similar to this.

00:39:51.500 They don't want to look at restorative fertility. 1.00

00:39:53.300 They don't want to look at NAPRO technology.

00:39:55.620 They don't want to look at these other options that are healthier and more effective and more humane and more ethical because they don't profit from those things.

00:40:03.320 So then we get to some of these numbers here, and these numbers are really what break your heart when you kind of zoom out and look at in vitro.

00:40:10.920 So according to the CDC, just in the year 2021, there were 238,000 women who underwent IVF treatment, who underwent this procedure.

00:40:20.400 Now, every time that a woman undergoes this procedure anywhere, this is an unregulated industry, so anywhere between 5 and 15 embryos are created. 0.81

00:40:29.240 Multiple of those embryos are then implanted in the woman. 1.00

00:40:31.600 However, getting back to the statistic you started this segment with, over 90%, 93% of those never are, they are not born live.

00:40:41.540 They are either, you know, all 15 aren't implanted in the woman, so many of them are frozen. 0.72

00:40:45.760 They are, quote, unquote, screened for bad genetics, which is another word for eugenics.

00:40:50.320 They look for characteristics that they might not want in a child, and then they destroy or experiment on those embryos.

00:40:56.720 And because in vitro does not address a woman's hormones and fertility in her body, oftentimes she miscarries.

00:41:04.040 The risk of miscarriage with in vitro is much, much higher than an ordinary pregnancy or restorative fertility.

00:41:11.040 So then you have 238,000 women who underwent this.

00:41:15.860 Say they have 10, 7, 8, 10 embryos that were created.

00:41:19.700 That's about 1.5 to 2 million embryos created a year.

00:41:23.700 And yet, in 2021, fewer than 100,000 babies were born from in vitro, which means that anywhere between 1.5 and 1.8 embryos,

00:41:34.140 which, Glenn, we know scientifically, spiritually, and ethically, our human life were destroyed, discarded, experimented,

00:41:42.520 or remain in a freezer somewhere, you know, indefinitely, which is more children are dying from in vitro

00:41:49.900 than are dying from abortion in the United States of America.

00:41:53.260 So this is absolutely heartbreaking because, you know, my wife and I struggled.

00:41:58.840 We adopted, and we struggled to have a child.

00:42:01.640 And, boy, when, you know, when a woman wants to have a baby and can't, it just screws with your mind so badly. 0.99

00:42:16.600 And it's heartbreaking when a couple wants to have a child, and there's so many children that are being aborted,

00:42:22.120 and you're like, let me take them.

00:42:24.560 Please, let me take them.

00:42:25.640 But this, you know, when you say that the pharmaceutical companies like this because they're getting rich,

00:42:32.720 the cost is between $12,000 to $25,000 per cycle, and it takes several cycles usually to take.

00:42:43.020 So, you know, it's wildly expensive.

00:42:46.360 What does Trump mean when he says he wants to make it easier to access?

00:42:52.180 Do you know?

00:42:52.620 Well, that's the thing about this executive order, and President Trump is a very open-minded individual.

00:42:58.460 One of my favorite things about him, actually, besides how hilarious he is on Truth Social,

00:43:02.660 is that he listens to those who voted for him.

00:43:05.940 I think that sets him apart from almost any other politician that I've ever known in my lifetime.

00:43:10.840 The executive order is not entirely specific.

00:43:13.900 It actually just requests a report on how to make in vitro fertilization more accessible.

00:43:20.200 And so what I would encourage President Trump and his team to do, what I would request from them,

00:43:26.540 is, you know, think outside the box here.

00:43:28.620 Like, look at in vitro through the lens of make America healthy again and say,

00:43:33.400 wait a second, we're here to doge the corruption that exists between government and, you know,

00:43:39.880 big pharma or big food or whatever, DEI programs,

00:43:43.400 all this stuff that President Trump has Elon Musk doing that we're all delighted with.

00:43:46.900 Apply that philosophy to this, too.

00:43:49.540 Make sure that when you are looking at in vitro fertilization, you're looking at it through the lens of,

00:43:54.180 hey, is big pharma lying to women, lying to families to profit themselves?

00:43:58.920 Is this something that's actually existentially harmful for our country because someone else wants to make money?

00:44:04.480 And meanwhile, they're hiding from women the fact that if you undergo in vitro, 0.61

00:44:08.120 your child is more likely to have heart defects and, you know, physical deformities in addition to miscarrying,

00:44:14.700 in addition to all of those innocent lives that are being, you know, put on ice quite literally and discarded.

00:44:21.480 And Glenn, one of the things that really chills me when I talk about or when I research IVF when we're talking about it,

00:44:28.640 is this genetic screening that you can, you, these embryos are given ratings on a scale of 1 to 10.

00:44:34.680 Like, is this healthy? Is this not healthy? Do they have desirable characteristics?

00:44:38.680 And to me, that's just, that's just a road.

00:44:41.240 If it's not eugenics right now, which I would argue it is, it's the road to eugenics. 1.00

00:44:45.220 So Trump's executive order, I encourage him to really focus on restorative, reproductive health,

00:44:54.760 focus on NAPRO technology, focus on Maha.

00:44:57.920 We can fix this crisis. We all want more babies.

00:45:01.040 We all want the United States to have this incredible baby boom. 1.00

00:45:03.520 I share that desire with him.

00:45:05.500 And I think it's wonderful that he wants to be pro-family, but let's do this right.

00:45:09.900 Let's do this in a way that's never been done before.

00:45:11.960 So where does Bobby Kennedy, I mean, is this a passion point for him at all

00:45:17.460 on at least restorative health for the pregnancy rate?

00:45:24.860 One of the interesting things about Bobby Kennedy is his curiosity.

00:45:28.240 He's actually, he's often portrayed, you know, as an anti-vaxxer, but he is so open-minded

00:45:33.460 to wherever the data lead him.

00:45:35.700 And if he is presented with evidence that women's fertility, this is not how we were,

00:45:40.980 our bodies were intended to work.

00:45:42.400 We were intended to be, you know, very fertile.

00:45:44.180 And something that we're doing, some intervention, environmental, you know, food, pharma,

00:45:50.700 whatever it is, stress, technology, this combination, this culmination, if something's

00:45:55.180 not correct, then he wants to fix that.

00:45:58.180 And...

00:45:58.600 But it's not just happening here in America.

00:46:00.400 It is happening all over the world.

00:46:03.760 It is, yes.

00:46:04.580 And, but what's interesting is, is the fertility crisis is happening in nations who have adopted

00:46:09.700 more of a Western mindset to medicine, meaning pharma and also food.

00:46:17.740 Liz, thank you very much for taking us through this.

00:46:21.160 If people want to get involved, how, what would you suggest?

00:46:24.980 I would suggest reaching out to President Trump, get on X, email, call, make your voices heard.

00:46:29.920 And, you know, if it's a tough topic, it's an emotionally fraught topic.

00:46:33.200 There's a compassionate way to handle it.

00:46:34.760 We obviously should handle this in a very compassionate way, but encourage President

00:46:39.020 Trump to look at the reality of the IVF industry, because at the end of the day, for every one

00:46:44.440 life that is born, about 15 babies are killed in this process.

00:46:47.520 And we as a nation should not accept that morally.

00:46:51.400 Liz, thank you very much.

00:46:53.140 Love you.

00:46:53.760 Thanks, Glenn.

00:46:54.340 God bless.

00:46:55.300 She is the author of Hide Your Children.

00:46:57.060 She's also a Blaze TV host of the Liz Wheeler show, which is, she's really, really very smart.

00:47:04.080 And real, just really logical.

00:47:05.860 You can find it at Blaze TV, but also YouTube.com, at Liz Wheeler.

00:47:10.220 And her Twitter is at Liz underscore Wheeler.

00:47:15.160 Na, na, na, na, na.

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