Glenn Beck reacts to the release of the Tucker Carlson tapes and calls for an investigation into the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center. Glenn also talks about the recent release of a new piece of evidence in the case against Ray Epps.
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00:01:06.100All right, so in case you didn't see the Tucker Carlson videotapes last night, they were released by the GOP, McCarthy, who is as GOP as GOP gets.
00:01:24.480So they were released to Tucker Carlson.
00:02:35.780We're seeing evidence now that is shockingly different than what the January 6th committee was exposing.
00:02:45.620And I don't want to rehash January 6th.
00:02:49.600I do want to make sure if you're in jail and you didn't have a right to defend yourself because of national security, now that that national security tape is out and it changes your case, your case.
00:03:03.040And quite frankly, and I say this, not wanting to, because there are some people I'm sure that do belong in jail over this.
00:04:03.720Did our administration go around Congress and do a secret op against the Constitution of the United States, against international law and blow up the Nord Stream Pipeline?
00:04:58.380Otherwise, why would Sandy Berger go into the National Archives, take anything related to Saudi Arabia and 9-11 and try to sneak it out in his underpants?
00:05:09.740Now, you know, you know, we have documents.
00:05:12.340We have surely the scans of those documents that he took.
00:10:12.180And in order for somebody to be exonerated with regard to these tapes, you'd have to say,
00:10:17.900well, how did the denial of their availability prejudice the trial to the extent where the
00:10:25.440outcome would have been different if they would have had this information beforehand?
00:10:30.320So if you look at the example of Jacob Chansley's case last night, famously known as the QAnon Shaman, widely called an insurrectionist, the leader of a mob, so on and so forth.
00:10:43.860You know, the Viking who led the breach of the Capitol, nothing could have been further from the truth.
00:10:50.680I think had the defense attorney and had the defense attorney had access to the footage that we saw last night from the inception of this case.
00:11:01.100Would the outcome have been different, right?
00:11:58.700So there's just two forms of entrapment, right?
00:12:00.900There's old school entrapment when you think about a government agent inducing somebody to commit a crime and then there's entrapment by estoppel.
00:12:09.180And entrapment by estoppel is when a citizen makes a reasonable reliance on the representations of the person in the government, either by words or by some publication by somebody who's perceived to be in the government, that your actions are OK.
00:12:24.100And when you have the Capitol Police walking you through the building, the inference is that you believe that you should be there.
00:12:33.400Otherwise, they would tell you to get the hell out.
00:12:35.980And since they're giving you the grand tour, why not ask them for a backstage pass?
00:12:41.540That's exactly what they did in the case of Jacob Chansley.
00:12:44.740And then they and then they entrapped him because of it.
00:12:47.820They threatened him with years and years and years in jail.
00:12:50.400And very much like my brother would happen to my brother, they forced him into taking a very unfair plea before he had the time to process the information that should have been available to him on day one.
00:13:02.460So, Joe, you know, we were we've been talking about this today because I know when there is a case where a district attorney has, you know, trumped up evidence or held evidence back.
00:13:15.640They will go after the attorney, but then also they will overturn or at least release the prisoners because it it's in question now.
00:13:29.140And they usually don't do it just with one.
00:13:32.300If there's a pattern, they'll do it with everyone that that person ever put behind bars.
00:13:46.020So if you if you think about like when I first when I was in law school, when I was an intern, I was at the Innocence Project for a year and a half.
00:13:53.300In those cases, you think about a guy.
00:13:55.560He did 30 years in jail for rape and murder.
00:13:57.720And then he gets exonerated through DNA evidence because the DNA evidence points to another wrongdoer.
00:14:03.420And that person is sprung out of jail immediately because there's a scientific certainty that he was innocent.
00:14:14.340In other cases, you have motions like like in Jacob Chansley's case that can be filed that says, hey, listen, despite the fact that he took a plea, his continued incarceration offends the most basic same sensibilities of fair play and justice.
00:14:31.140This guy has to get out because keeping him in jail is fundamentally unjust.
00:14:37.520We have this new available information that was previously not made available to him at the time of trial.
00:14:44.340And because we know the truth now, you've got to get him out.
00:14:47.940So his lawyers need to file a motion for him to get him out because he doesn't belong there.
00:14:58.640It is malicious on behalf of the federal government.
00:15:01.460Tucker used the Jacob Chansley case as a wonderful example to get clear and convincing evidence about one guy's injustice.
00:15:09.760But let me tell you right now, Glenn, I can tell you for certain that this has happened to hundreds of men who have been charged with these cases.
00:15:18.580And quite honestly, when you have the federal government saying we're going to put you away for a decade, you know, and you can't get access to anything that shows the videotape of you not doing those things, you would be probably pretty wise, or at least at that time when you're thinking about it.
00:16:17.480How come how come you didn't have all this stuff?
00:16:20.800So for the first year, basically for 2021, we were told that this is the biggest investigation in the history of the Department of Justice.
00:16:29.300And because of that, they weren't able to get a handle on all the material.
00:16:33.760So they slow drifted to us, drip by drip by drip.
00:16:37.640Meanwhile, during that time, they took all of this information that they had and in bulk turned it over to the January 6th committee.
00:16:46.080And we saw this very dramatic publication that they did to indoctrinate the American public in the D.C. jury pool to proffer this narrative to incriminate former President Trump and everybody who went to the Capitol that day.
00:17:00.860We didn't get the material that Congress had until almost a year later.
00:17:04.960And we still only have about half of it.
00:17:07.560So the very short answer to your question is, hell no, we did not have that stuff on time.
00:17:28.360So I represent multiple people accused with January 6th related crimes.
00:17:33.000I also represent people who have been targeted by the D.O.J. as witnesses, subpoenaed in the investigation against President Trump and some people who were subpoenaed by the January 6th committee as well.
00:17:45.360For instance, I took Alex Bruce for the January 6th committee, one of my clients, and he pled the fifth 105 times, told them to go to hell.
00:17:53.380Other people who have been indicted don't have that luxury.
00:17:57.180So, for instance, in the case of Richard Barnett, the guy who famously had his feet up on Speaker Pelosi's desk.
00:18:03.240Listen, we had a two week trial, a two week trial, and the jury convicted him in less than two hours of every crime charge.
00:18:13.760We proffered defenses in that case that gave absolute defenses to crimes.
00:18:19.520There's no way that he should have been convicted of most of those crimes beyond a reasonable doubt.
00:18:24.780So because the January 6th committee and President Biden, with his with his, you know, pejorative terms about MAGA Republicans, has poisoned the jury pool beyond repair, we stood no chance.
00:18:35.900So the fact that the D.C. jury pool has been damaged beyond repair, that's grounds for appeal.
00:18:41.740Regarding what's happening now, we're getting ready to try Ryan Nichols' case.
00:18:45.700He's a decorated Marine Corps veteran, search and rescue specialist, ironically discharged, PTSD from his service.
00:18:52.720Two years, almost two years on a regular basis in solitary confinement.
00:19:34.860And the judge who let him out, Thomas Hogan, who was the most senior judge on the bench, you know, he retired a month later, which I wonder if they, you know, I find that to be convenient.
00:19:48.020But, you know, yes, he was out in two years since they drove him to Suicide Watch.
00:19:54.660And while he was on Suicide Watch, they strapped him to a table in a Tyvek suit in a very cold room.
00:20:02.480And they left the lights on for days at a time.
00:20:57.200And when you think about the term insurrectionist, the term insurrection, no one's been charged with insurrection.
00:21:04.080So why are they using the term insurrectionist?
00:21:06.220Why are they using the term domestic terrorist?
00:21:08.420They are using that term because it is analogous to using the N word to black people.
00:21:14.620And what I mean about that is the term insurrectionist is designed to subhumanize and therefore subconstitutionalize an entire class of people.
00:21:24.720If you look at that person, you say, yeah, he's really not an American.
00:21:47.420They are subconstitutionalizing and subhumanizing white Christian Trump supporters simply because of who they are, the color of their skin, and what they believe in.
00:21:57.320Joseph McBride, founder of the McBride Law Firm, located in New York City.
00:22:02.140He has been defending many of the January 6th prisoners.
00:26:54.900Do you not recognize right from wrong?
00:26:57.860Can we not tell what a woman is anymore?
00:27:00.860So, you know, up is down, right is wrong.
00:27:04.100The whole world is turned upside down.
00:27:06.260And if we don't get a grip, this is going to change our whole nation because, as another Republican said, and it's attributed, I believe, to Abraham Lincoln, the philosophy of the classroom in one generation is the philosophy of government in the other.
00:27:23.900You are looking at what we've been teaching our children in the schools.
00:27:29.680I still feel like we could, we can still win.
00:28:39.560We don't co-parent with the government.
00:28:41.760We give them to the government to say, teach them the history, the math, everything that they're going to need, how to read and write, and leave the morals to us.
00:28:50.420We don't want you to teach them those things.
00:29:10.980And then we're introducing grievance and, and, uh, you know, and, and we're saying that you, you see the violence that's in schools nowadays and everybody's wondering, how did that happen?
00:29:24.440When we're telling one group of children that through CRT, Marxism, socialism, that you, black children, Latino children, you're oppressed.
00:29:34.760And these white students over here, they're the oppressors.
00:29:38.200They and their families and their, yeah.
00:29:40.220Then what do you think is going to happen to the morale?
00:29:56.240And some of our schools are already resegregated because you have all black schools and, and they're not learning.
00:30:02.080And so that's one reason why I put in my ESA bill, you know, education success accounts so that parents could finally make that decision that we want our child to learn differently.
00:30:13.720And not all, everything doesn't fit one, you know, all children.
00:30:18.060You have said that this is the most important thing you could do.
00:30:21.520And even if it just means you're never reelected again, you don't care.
00:31:22.040So that politician is like, I have no, I have no backing, even though they would, they don't think they do.
00:31:29.240Except we had polls in Virginia to show that there was a super majority of parents and that included Democrats and independents, not just Republicans to say that they wanted to be able to, to decide to send their children to any school that they wanted to.
00:32:20.760And you know who's not listening to that anymore?
00:32:22.600We found black parents in urban districts and rural districts and white parents and urban and rural Latino and everybody to come to our education committee, subcommittee, to tell these people, these Democrats, that they want to make that decision.
00:32:41.240We had one mother say, I'm working three jobs to keep my child in the school that I want him in.
00:32:46.740And, you know, what the Democrat elected leader said to her, well, I'm worried about the kids who are not going to take this opportunity.
00:33:32.480And you know what this Democrat said to her?
00:33:34.840Well, you can choose any school you want your child to.
00:33:38.280Did you not hear me just say I can't afford it?
00:33:41.360So these are the black and Latino and white parents, Asians, who have come to say we knocked doors for you Democrats and you've let us down.
00:34:38.680I just heard, I just interviewed Ron DeSantis for a podcast that's coming out later this week.
00:34:45.720And we were talking about it and he said, I had to keep the emergency order alive long enough to get our kids back in school because it was the only tool I had to force the unions to get the kids back in school.
00:35:00.420And now we know the learning loss, which, by the way, was prior to COVID.
00:35:05.360The kids weren't learning prior to COVID.
00:35:07.000And now we know fully that because we stayed closed so long in the public schools that the learning loss among black kids and Latino kids is off the charts.