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In this episode of the podcast, we discuss the latest in the Ukraine, China's aggressive stance towards Hong Kong, the latest on the NFL, and much, much more. We also talk about the impeachment of Donald Trump and why we should all be worried about it.
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Hey, welcome to the, is it Wednesday? The Wednesday podcast.
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Holy cow, this one was hard to get through because we have so much to talk to you about.
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We have more on the impeachment and news that nobody else has.
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That is really critically important that you understand and pass on to your friends.
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We also have some financial news that nobody seems to want to be talking about.
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Some of the things that Donald Trump did yesterday, including open skies, a law that he has repealed, and I'm happy about it,
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but it opens the door to a lot of questions on why, what are we preparing for?
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And there are some rumors going around about the funds, the sovereign funds that the Chinese own, and we'll talk about that.
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Also, the NBA, what is really happening with the whistleblowers in Ukraine, the 76ers kicking the guys out who are saying free Hong Kong.
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Also, Turkey has just invaded Syria. What does that mean?
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Boy, this is a, this is a jam-packed podcast. Don't miss a second of it. Here it is.
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All right. I want to talk to you a little bit about what is happening in China.
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Stu, can you give me an update on what you have with the NFL and everything else?
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Yeah. I mean, there seems to be a really increase in the aggressiveness of China over even just the past few weeks.
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The, the ridiculous NBA saga with Daryl, Daryl Morey, who is an NBA general manager for the Houston Rockets.
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And, like, just to put a, an emphasis on this, because he tweeted out, I support Hong Kong, you know, support democracy, was, was just obliterated by not only the league, his owner, other owners.
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How dare you insult the People's Republic of China?
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Yeah. And the, and the wonderful Communist Party was essentially the response.
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Now, after a real blowback from Americans saying, oh, wait, wait, what are you guys doing?
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You're siding with the Chinese government here?
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There was a little bit of a step back yesterday.
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Adam Silver, who is the commissioner, released a statement that I thought was really weak, frankly, that said, well, we're not going to crack down on people's personal views if they're employees of the league, which was exactly what they had done for the past few days.
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He did make a statement and said a little bit more clearly yesterday that we're not, we understand that he had a viewpoint and we're not going to, we're not going to get involved in whether he's right or wrong.
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So there was a little bit of an improvement in the NBA's position yesterday.
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This did not help the opinion of China, however, who then not only has been taking down posters around the cities for the games that are being scheduled, that were scheduled there, they're not airing them.
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They have a streaming service there that is not airing the games.
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There's a big, big pushback there, and this is coming to a major head, and you get the sense that South Park was right.
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You know, China basically is controlling multiple, you know, large portions of our economy because they can hold us at gunpoint.
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And if you think this is bad, if you look at the way the NBA has reacted, it's going to point you to what, you know, Glenn has been talking about for a million years on how they could do this with our entire economy.
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First of all, let's just remember that something's wrong with our banking system.
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I just sent something to Bowie, one of our producers, in the control room.
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If you could open that up and put that chart up.
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This is something that Stu found very interesting yesterday, and you found this chart, I think, in the Wall Street Journal, maybe?
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And you said, you've been talking about this bank, this quiet bank bailout for a while.
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I just saw a graphic on it, and it totally changes everything.
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And what happens is every bank has to have a certain amount of money, you know, in their coffers when they close every night for the overnight.
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You know, they might be short $5 billion or, I mean, $5 million or, you know, whatever it is.
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And so they borrow money from the other bank, and they'll say, hey, we're short something.
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Can we just sell you these treasuries or you give us a loan based on these treasuries, and we'll pay you 1% for the 24 hours or the actual, it's usually about eight hours.
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Now, it used to prior to 2008, but it wasn't a very big deal.
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You would just go to the Fed, and the Fed would take your asset, and they would give you a loan, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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What's been happening since the oil fields went on fire, you will see, now, if you happen to be watching the blaze, let's describe this for our radio listeners.
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You will see that the beginning of this chart starts in 2005, and it is marked in billions of dollars.
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So you will see that the Fed was bailing these banks out or borrowing, lending money to these banks every night, you know, between 25 and 48, is this in billions?
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Okay, you will see that in 2008, when Bear Stearns went belly up, you will see that it went up to $125 billion every night.
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Then they were bailed out, and it went to almost zero every night.
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And then, on September 18th, for the first time, so it's a kind of like a heartbeat graph, with one big spike up to $125, you know, for the Bear Stearns thing.
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And then it goes almost flatline all the way to zero for 10 years.
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Then, on September 18th, all of a sudden it spikes up to $75 billion.
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It was about $130 was the very top for one day.
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So, we don't know what's going on with our banks.
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I told you at the beginning that trade wars always follow a certain pattern.
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And when the world is on edge, that pattern always ends in war.
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When countries are in conflict, that's usually the last step.
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The first step is there's some sort of political crisis, and that leads to some sort of a banking crisis.
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We have our political crisis going on, and we also had our banking collapse in 2008.
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The next step always is the governments step in to bail their banks out, and they start to devalue their money.
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Then, because other countries begin to devalue theirs, look overseas, look at what everybody is doing,
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That's the last step before war, is a trade war.
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Trade wars usually get nasty and nationalistic, and so you start saying,
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well, we're not in this with them, and they're not in this with us.
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And you start throwing barbs back and forth, and it spirals out of control.
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And World War I, World War II, both started by trade wars.
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Now, this has been leaked, and these people who leaked this should be found.
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I mean, I really believe the White House is a sieve,
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and we are leaking things for political reasons that are very bad.
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I want you to recall that in prior programs, we noted that the Chinese printed 51 trillion U.S. dollars
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in their money and used a portion of that to invest in Western and U.S. stocks and bonds.
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These were off-balance sheet holdings per their own Financial Stability Report in 2018.
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So they reported this, but it was off their balance sheet.
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So, you know, if we gather up all the cash in the entire world, every, you know, every yak
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and every clam and every dollar and every pound, we take all of it, that is 50 trillion dollars.
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So they printed more than what the entire world has out in circulation.
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Half of that went 15, between 15 and 24 trillion is the estimate from the Bank of International Settlements
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that the Chinese now bought in U.S. stocks, bonds, and real estate.
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Marco Rubio introduced a bill in the Senate early this year requiring foreign holders of U.S. equities
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to report ownership structures, a backdoor way for us to know who owns the companies,
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who owns the trusts, who owns the LLCs that are making this investment.
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The bill, for some reason, most likely China, never made it out of committee.
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We speculated at the time that it was possible that President Xi from China
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was weaponizing our own financial system against us, enabling him to crash the U.S. economy
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If they have 24, I want to make sure this is right, yes, 15 to 24 trillion dollars
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If he hits sell, we have a major depression on our hands.
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So something happened yesterday that is very important.
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Today, Turkey has launched their initiative to rid the world of the Syrian Kurds.
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Well, that's not possible because yesterday the president tweeted out that we are not abandoning
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And likewise, we have a great relationship with Turkey.
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And then Lindsey Graham, to the Turkish government, you do not have a green light to enter into
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Unfortunately, they have entered into northern Syria.
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Is it possible they caught the yellow, the yellow light?
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So Turkish warplanes have started to carry out airstrikes on civilian areas.
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Apparently, there's huge panic among the people of the region.
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This is going to go down as, look, I want our troops home.
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I want to be out of all of these foreign entanglements.
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However, when a country says that they are going to commit genocide, you take them at
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their word, especially when they have a history of genocide.
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The Kurds, the problem is these Kurds are not good guys.
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Now, they happen to be on our side against ISIS, but they're not good.
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They're they are communist Marxists and they they would be fighting us just as fast.
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But that's not why Turkey is going in to get them.
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You know, the line that we we we made that ISIS was trying to make a big deal out of that
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We've done so many shows on these things over the last 10 years.
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This is all about division after after World War, after World War one.
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And ISIS was trying to take that back for the, you know, the caliphate.
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They also want the Iraqi Kurds who are really pro-American, who we have abandoned every time,
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There are also Christians in these communities in Syria that are being bombed by Turkey as
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So we have abandoned the Kurds that wiped out ISIS.
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And Turkey had been saying, we're going to go in and slaughter all those people because
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And as President Trump said, he's he's fought them off doing that for three years.
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And I don't know if he got tired of telling them no.
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No, no, I think what's happening is I think the impeachment is is now starting to affect
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policy because the president's the president needs to fulfill some promises.
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You'll notice in the last week we've been talking about the border and and there's all
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kinds of news about the border on how many, you know, a million plus came in last year and
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like a what is it's 160 miles of the border has just been completed or something like
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Nobody is helping him in the Pentagon in the State Department get out of these wars.
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We'll put alligators down at the southern border and I'm going to pull them out because
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And I believe this is a a a function of a deep state, but not the way we think of deep
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When we think of deep state, people usually think that's a star chamber and everything
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That's not the kind of deep state we have, although the Ukraine thing is beginning to
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What we have are these career people in Intel, career people in the State Department that
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have their own policies that they believe is right.
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And so they will thwart the president because they know they'll outlast him.
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This is what President Bush told me when I was in the office.
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I was in the Oval Office and he tried to calm me down on something and he made it worse
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by saying, look, whoever gets in and sits behind this desk is going to make almost the
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same decisions because they'll get the same advice and they'll have the same facts they're
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He says that this has been caused because of decades of screwing it up.
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And he talked the other day about his great and unmatched wisdom.
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Doesn't it come off, though, as if Turkey is just pushing us around?
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Communications director to write an op ed in the Washington Post saying, look, yeah,
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we're going to go in there and we're going to get these guys because they're a terrorist
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organization that's been working with the United States, by the way, this terrorist
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We're going to go in there and protect all of our people.
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And I mean, they're announcing this in our newspaper, basically get out and then we'll
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That's a weird position for the United States to be in.
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These Kurds are reminiscent to me of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, who we also supported
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and we also armed and we also funded and they were the enemy of our enemy and they were
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So it was cool that that's kind of like and they turned into Osama bin Laden.
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And that doesn't mean you just allow Turkey to come in and do whatever they please.
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I wouldn't have a problem if Turkey was doing this.
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This is between Turkey and Syria and the Syrian Kurds.
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But the but Turkey is on the record wanting all of the land and they want all Kurds dead.
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They're trying to reestablish the Ottoman Empire.
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And so the problem with this is, is this is not like these Kurds were, you know, are super
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We were using them like the Mujahideen or however I never could say those name as we were
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However, the real problem for me is Turkey stated goal over the last decade has been to get rid
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of all of the Kurds, get rid of all of them, kill them all.
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If they were just talking about these particular Kurds because these guys were causing problems
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for China, but not the or for Turkey, but not these Kurds over here.
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You know, we don't care about their race or whatever, but they do.
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And I think a lot of times this winds up in a zoom out situation where we're looking at
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the big picture and talking about these in general concepts.
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But what's actually happening here is we had, what, a couple of hundred troops who were
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not fighting on the front lines in Syria, assisting the Kurdish troops in that region.
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And that was what was keeping Turkey out from wiping all these people out.
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So we pull out 150, what, 200 troops out so they can stand across an invisible line in
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And by the way, when we say we want to bring our boys home, they're just, is Iraq home?
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Because they're just pushing them across the border to Iraq.
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Because I don't want to be protecting or be in bed with the Syrian Turks or Syrian Kurds.
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I don't, I don't think that ever works out well.
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I didn't want them to be on our side, you know, from the beginning.
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Look at every time we get into bed with a world power or any power that is bad.
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We created the biggest foe because we said they were good.
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We are creating our biggest foe because we're saying that they're good.
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So I don't want to be in the round around the world going, you know what?
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We're just best friends with you and we're in bed with you and we'll help you with the military and you'll help us.
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Unless you just say, yep, some people are going to be killed, but I got to pull them out.
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Well, I mean, what Trump has promised right here to potentially fight against this is massive economic sanctions.
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I mean, I don't, I assume he does not want that to occur, obviously.
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So, you know, he, and he did threaten that publicly.
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He said he wouldn't allow Turkey to come in and just, and, and take the Kurds.
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He said something about if they do something inhumane, which I guess is a, is a line that's a little different than them coming in.
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As the op-ed says in the Washington Post, during a phone call with the president of Turkey on Sunday,
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President Trump agreed to transfer the leadership of the counter-Islamic state campaign to Turkey.
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This is from the Turkey, the communications director of Turkey in the Washington Post today.
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You can't turn an anti-Islamic movement over to Turkey.
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Doesn't sound like there's going to be a good outcome from that.
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Now, look, a lot of things, I think we've come to a point with war.
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I made this point, I think, a couple times before, but where we kind of judge it by the wrong metrics.
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Where, like, we're like, you know, here's the length of time from the beginning of the invasion to today, and now it's our longest war.
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Like, I hate that argument when it comes to Afghanistan because, like, we can say, is that, yes, it is.
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Let's just say it is our longest war, which I, you know, I quibble with because what is war, right?
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When you think of war, you think of World War II.
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Like, yes, we are still involved in this situation, but would you rather have a one-week war where 500,000 people are killed on your side, or would you rather have a very long war with very few people killed, which is the new style of war?
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I don't like war at all, but the idea that 150 people being kept in what seems to be relatively, for that region, safe circumstances because they're not on the front lines of battle,
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to prevent an entire, you know, group of people that have assisted us to get wiped out does not seem like the idea of being the world's policemen.
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I think the world's policemen, we are constantly invading places.
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Honestly, the world's policemen is what Donald Trump promised he would do.
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If you do something wrong, then we'll come in and we'll punish you.
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A peacekeeping force, which they never are, but a peacekeeping force is what we actually were doing there.
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You know, we were keeping the security force, just making sure that things, you know, are stable and they don't fall into extremist hands.
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Our real role there was Turkey's not coming in while our guys are there because they don't want to, they don't want to conflict with us.
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And they promised it in our newspaper, in our capital.
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Despite the fact, the warnings from the president and a U.S. senator, they did it anyway, which looks really bad for us.
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I mean, if they really had this call where Trump said, yep, now this is your gig, if that actually happened, I mean, obviously somebody's not telling the truth.
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Now, I would tend to support, believe our president over Erdogan.
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So, but still, like, that needs to be sorted out.
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And you've got to think the president of the United States, if he sees this and they're just lying about this phone call, he's got to be infuriated today.
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Well, maybe Nancy Pelosi can get a copy of that phone call.
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We have Turkey starting to drop bombs in Syria, which they first said they weren't going to do.
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Or Trump first said that he wasn't going to allow them to do.
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And then it was if they don't if they do anything inhumane.
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So we are we're displacing thousands of Christians today in Syria, and they may die if we can't get them out, because I do believe that Syria is on a genocidal tirade.
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Even if it doesn't happen right now, they're going to be in charge of of what's going on, and they are looking to reestablish the Ottoman Empire.
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Don't listen to the so-called frickin' experts because they're wrong every step of the way.
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Russia has also started using a new unit, what's been around for 10 years, to destabilize Europe.
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And our officials in Washington are wondering what's happening.
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All you have to do is listen to the people who Putin listens to.
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Meanwhile, the impeachment hearings are making our president look weak to the bad guys in the world.
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You think there's a reason why China is upping the game?
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Meanwhile, yesterday, the president repealed the Open Skies Law, which allowed China and Russia and everybody else just to fly their military jets in our airspace with no problem.
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Listen to the first hour of this podcast today to find out just what's happening on Wall Street and what is happening with stocks and bonds and the bank bailouts that the Fed is doing.
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It is time now more than ever to keep calm and carry on.
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You cannot blindly support impeachment or support no impeachment.
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I told my staff today that we need we need some things up on my set for the five o'clock because you can't understand.
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And we are going to explain it every frickin night.
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We are going to go through it every night because people need to understand last night we went over the whistleblower.
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Here's how the usual whistleblower complaint is handled by the intelligence community.
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First, whistleblower has to come to the inspector general.
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Now, the inspector general then has 14 days to determine if the complaint is credible and of urgent concern.
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You go to the inspector general and you say, hey, listen, this is what I'm hearing.
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They have 14 days after you go in and meet with the inspector general to see if it's credible and of urgent concern.
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Now, the urgent concern language is really important.
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An intelligence community urgent concern is defined as relating to the, quote, administration or operation of an intelligence activity within the authority of the director of national intelligence involving classified information.
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You can't just go in and and and circumvent these things.
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You have to go to the IG, because even if you have a top secret clearance doesn't mean you have clearance to see everything that's top secret.
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So members of Congress don't have a need to know things.
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If they do, they then can ask for those top secret documents and say, I have top secret clearance.
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Not everybody can just go to Area 51 and find the alien bodies.
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If the information is deemed credible and urgent, then the IG is required, required to forward it to the national, the director of national intelligence.
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Then the director of national intelligence, the DNI, has seven days to submit that report to Congress.
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However, if the information is deemed not credible or no action is taken, the whistleblower then can go directly to Congress, but capitalized, but he is required to tell the IG and work with the DNI to ensure that he isn't exposing classified information that he is not supposed to.
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You can go to Congress, but you have to inform the IG and the DNI because they have to look at that and say, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you can't tell them that.
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Because they don't have the clearance to know these things.
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Jack Bauer or any Tom Clancy character, Jack Ryan is always in trouble because he's like, I'm just going to tell.
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And they always get in trouble for telling them.
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What are we doing to our intelligence community?
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The phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian president occurred on July 25th.
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Well, he probably had to hear it from the water cooler.
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The complaint should have gone directly to the IG.
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But the New York Times broke the story that the whistleblower went straight to the House Intelligence Committee.
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This whistleblower skipped steps one through four.
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He went right directly to the Senate Intelligence Committee.
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What kind of responsible whistleblower does that?
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Because he could have gone to them and gotten nothing.
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But then the rules state, as long as he did that, he can go to Congress.
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Now, here's the part that they really don't want to, they don't want you to know.
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What guidance did the Democrats give this whistleblower?
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And he just revealed classified information without permission from the Director of Intelligence or the IG.
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And that 18-day gap before he decided to actually follow the correct procedure is not him deciding and tossing and turning because he went to Congress to Adam Schiff and the Intelligence Committee.
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You've seen them in, you know, the movies where they go into the glass rooms and you have to sign in.
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And then you sit in there and everything that you say is totally top secret.
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This guy went into that room and talked to Adam Schiff and Schiff and who else?
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Did the DNC attorneys, did the attorneys for Adam Schiff that are in that room, did those attorneys help craft this whistleblower's story?
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I believe Schiff and possibly the attorneys in that room broke all kinds of laws.
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helped him craft this, then sent him to an attorney firm.
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And you're not going to guess who this attorney firm is.
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This attorney firm, the odds of this happening are just, I mean, so coincidental.
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The main lawyer representing the whistleblower is Mark Zaid.
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Shortly after the president was inaugurated, Zaid co-founded an organization called The Whistleblower Aid.
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Its main page now says, report government and corporate law breaking without breaking the law.
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But that's not what it said when it was first established right after the president was inaugurated.
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What it used to say was, today, our republic is under threat.
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Whistleblower aid is committed to protecting the rule of law in the United States and around the world.
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But it almost seems like a setup, a partisan attack on Donald Trump.
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They didn't do it during the Obama administration.
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They did it right after Donald Trump was elected.
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And then, and then what they did is they went out and tried to goad people into spilling the beans on Trump.
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They were on every street corner and every, you know, every subway stop going to the Capitol.
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They stood on street corners in D.C. handing out pamphlets and whistles so you could whistleblow.
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They hung signs up in the D.C. metro that said, you know, you've got to blow the whistle on this.
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Or is this a partisan setup from the very beginning?
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It's at least worth knowing before people start to say, yeah, I'm with this impeachment.
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It's at least worth the president being able to present some of these things, but nobody's doing it.
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Tonight, we're going to introduce you to the real Underwoods.
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Francis Underwood and his wife, Claire, were, I always thought, were the Clintons.
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They were actually based on another real-life couple, good friends of the Clintons,
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Marion Smith is a civil society leader, expert in international affairs.
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He has been the executive director of Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation since March
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They are fighting to keep the multiple holocausts and programs alive in people's minds so we
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And there are over a hundred million of them now, just from the last century.
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And what I love is he is also the National Civic Art Society chairperson, which I don't
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know somebody with your credentials, how you got them to give you that role.
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So can you just these corporations, is it an overstatement to say that these corporations
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that are in bed for the cash of China, that they are going to someday possibly be remembered
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as the kind of company that the Nazi collaborators were?
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Well, I think, you know, 30 years ago, the Berlin Wall fell.
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And in the days after that, if someone would have said that in 2019, it would be America's
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business elite, sports, entertainment elite that would be ushering in a censorship state
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inside of the United States, along with, you know, giant tech companies, I don't think
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But China has effectively intertwined themselves into all elements of American society.
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They have been very strategic and silent about it.
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They have appealed to greed and to short-term interest.
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And the fallout right now over the NBA's refusal to stand immediately with Daryl Morey, eventually
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after China, you know, punished the NBA, Adam Silver had statements defending free speech.
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But it's very clear the leadership of the NBA came down very heavily on Morey.
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And he deleted his original tweet supporting Hong Kong and issued an apology.
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But, you know, the fallout of all of that is, I think, revealing to Americans just what's
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wrong at the very top of so many of our institutions.
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And that is that they have made a deal with the devil and the Chinese Communist Party.
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They have made money and they have pretended that they're advancing democracy and political
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values of freedom by trading or conducting business with China.
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Yeah, we're not we're not bringing our culture into theirs.
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We're bringing our products into theirs and they are bringing their their culture of of
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Well, the problem is that it's not even working on the business side anymore.
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You know, internationally, China, with their Belt Road Initiative, is this is essentially standing
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up a alternative to the, you know, rules based international trading system that the United
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States has defended, which respects free enterprise.
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And they're, you know, engaging in neo mercantilist, exploitative, you know, trading policies with
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essentially countries they're trying to make client states.
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And in those countries, they also present their their values of authoritarianism.
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But then businesses, Western businesses operating in China have increasingly been pushed out now
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And then, of course, the entire national security element to this and and and the infiltration
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of companies and and firms that are important for U.S. national security.
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You know, all of this has been made possible by the silence in American society about the nature
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of the People's Republic of China, silence on the human rights abuses that they've been conducting.
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Because your organization is about the victims of communism.
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And so you document these things and keep these stories alive.
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Tell the American people the kinds of things that they're doing.
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For instance, the guy who is wearing a Houston's Houston Rockets T-shirt tried to light the
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He was picked up by the Chinese police and disappeared.
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Well, the record on human rights, going back to Mao's Communist Party and when they took
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over China in 1949, since that time, the Chinese Communist Party is responsible for the deaths
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The Chinese Communist Party remains the single deadliest entity in world history.
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But they will say those are things of the past.
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That is what the propaganda has been in the West since 1989.
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And yet, inside of China, throughout that entire period, they were devouring their own people
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The cultural genocide in Tibet has continued until today.
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And more recently, we've seen, of course, the update of a gulag system, a 21st century gulag system
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in Xinjiang or East Turkestan, where one and a half to three million Uyghurs and others,
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and there have been documented cases of Christians in those camps and of non-Uyghurs,
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But it's basically a three-tiered camp system where you have re-education camps,
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you have forced labor camps, and then you have sort of factory towns or factory complexes,
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where if you're really good and you make it out of the first two camps,
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you can work in one of those factory complexes.
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It's essentially a modern-day gulag, and to have up to three million people out of a population
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of 11 million in that province, it lets you know the scale.
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And in those camps, we do know that there is ideological training,
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treating adults like they're four-year-olds and making them cite gibberish from Mao and Xi Jinping
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and, you know, proclaim allegiance to Marxism and Maoism.
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And we know that there is low-skill, labor-intense, you know, products being made in those facilities.
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Sadly, some of it, clothing, we know for fact, has ended up in Western countries being sold in stores.
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Marion, how serious is the threat of China to freedom around the world?
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Well, we have begun to see the nature of the party revealed externally.
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They have for now 70 years, you know, this month, the People's Republic of China turned 70.
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That means they have officially outlived the Soviet Union, which fell apart in its 69th year.
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And, you know, in 1990, the Soviet Union no longer believed that its system was better than the West.
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They didn't have a confidence in Marxism-Leninism.
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But what you see today under Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party
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is absolutely an arrogant confidence that their system is just as good, if not better, than democracy.
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Well, they are the people of China are not rooting for the Hong Kong people.
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They actually are convinced now that they're terrorists.
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Well, of course, to understand anything about China, we have to remind Americans that we can't trust them.
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Medical data coming out, economic data, etc., etc.
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The Chinese people, sadly, don't really understand what's going on in the outside world.
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And that's partially because American tech engineers and tech companies like Google and their project Dragonfly
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have been helping the Chinese to perfect a more total totalitarian system than Orwell could have ever dreamed of.
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And because of that, you know, things like the Tiananmen Square massacre,
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things like the Hong Kong protests and what's really going on in the outside world are not known in China
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because of the effectiveness of the censorship authorities and the measures online
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and the draconian punishments for anyone like that individual you just mentioned
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who was making a statement supporting the Houston Rockets.
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But to see that same kind of punishment given by American companies against their employees in the United States,
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you know, we had last year Marriott fired an employee for tweeting something critical of China in the United States.
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And you see it, Blizzard, an e-sports company, has just fired a number of people
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over statements made by one of their gamers in support of Hong Kong.
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Because it proves to the world that Chinese people can be prosperous, free, happy, without the Chinese Communist Party.
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And that's an existential threat to the propaganda of Beijing,
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which has done its best to make sure that everybody understands that China is the party,
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the party is China, and to criticize the party is to somehow criticize the Chinese people
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Marion Smith, Executive Director of Victims of Communism.