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00:01:59.080 Hello, America.

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00:02:51.780 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:02:58.800 We're going to get to some really important stuff.

00:03:02.940 I mean, not now, but at some point we'll get to some really important stuff.

00:03:06.220 You know, actually, you know, the week that it is, I think there are other things that are much more important.

00:03:11.820 I think our attitude, our hope, our being the resilient American is so important right now.

00:03:29.700 You know, the world is watching us right now and how we're reacting.

00:03:34.260 And I want to talk to you about what the president is doing with tariffs.

00:03:37.600 I did a show last night that if you missed, you really need to see.

00:03:40.280 And we'll go over it here in a little while.

00:03:43.020 But the world's watching us, watching the president and watching us.

00:03:47.320 How are we reacting?

00:03:48.540 Who are we as a nation?

00:03:50.100 You know, a lot of people think that as people, we are just, we can't take any pain.

00:03:57.660 You know, that's why fights will happen with the United States because they just think, our enemies just think they'll not be able to stand it.

00:04:05.420 They can't take it.

00:04:06.400 They can't take it.

00:04:07.080 And is that who we are?

00:04:16.640 I want to take you back to 1920.

00:04:18.300 1920, we were a nation that was bruised by war.

00:04:21.140 We were battered by the grind of progress.

00:04:24.380 Everything was changing.

00:04:25.240 But we were dreaming.

00:04:26.680 We were always, always dreaming of something better.

00:04:29.440 That's who Americans are.

00:04:30.900 Always dreaming.

00:04:32.360 And it's what makes us different as a people.

00:04:36.480 And that comes from hope.

00:04:38.820 And where does hope come from?

00:04:42.700 Hope comes from something.

00:04:44.340 Hope comes from faith in something real.

00:04:51.680 That something that is always given Americans hope is God and his promises.

00:04:55.900 Knowing that God is real and his promises are real.

00:04:59.140 When you understand his promises, they're all based in hope.

00:05:03.080 They're all based in love.

00:05:04.200 And when God is real to people, they act differently.

00:05:09.240 That's how you can tell a real Christian, do they act differently? 1.00

00:05:12.340 Or are they still the same nasty people they always were?

00:05:15.080 If you are, then you haven't been changed by it.

00:05:17.960 When it becomes part of who you are and everything that you produce, that's how you know somebody has really changed.

00:05:26.560 And as the world was faltering, millions were dead.

00:05:31.980 You had the influenza of 1918 just right in your rearview mirror.

00:05:37.240 Where did that hope come from?

00:05:39.940 Where did you find hope in culture?

00:05:41.580 There was, in World War I and after World War I, there was somebody who was very, very small, small by design, that was flickering on the movie screen.

00:05:56.180 He wasn't a king.

00:05:57.880 He wasn't a titan.

00:06:00.000 He wasn't that strong American square-jawed hero.

00:06:04.640 But he was a hero.

00:06:06.220 He was an American hero.

00:06:07.780 And most people don't look at him this way.

00:06:09.900 But he didn't need any fancy titles or, you know, land or money or anything else.

00:06:15.340 Because in the end, he was a hero because he was simply you.

00:06:21.000 He was simply me.

00:06:23.280 He was all of us.

00:06:25.460 He was every man.

00:06:27.760 He's the guy who's, you know, down on his luck, but he has nothing but a spark in his eye and a stubborn refusal to give up.

00:06:37.180 He is the American psyche made flesh.

00:06:41.820 He's flawed.

00:06:42.880 He was scrappy.

00:06:44.520 You know, he'd cut a corner or two, you know, when the landlord's knocking.

00:06:48.480 Maybe he'd be loafing when the sun was too warm.

00:06:52.080 But steal?

00:06:53.140 Be dishonest?

00:06:54.080 Never.

00:06:55.120 Harm somebody else?

00:06:56.340 Never.

00:06:56.900 Not in a million years. 0.82

00:06:57.840 This hero was actually homeless or, as Americans used to say, a tramp. 0.96

00:07:05.380 He was the tramp.

00:07:08.800 Today is Charlie Chaplin's birthday.

00:07:11.840 And I want to bring him up for one reason.

00:07:16.180 Charlie's little tramp is America and is the American spirit.

00:07:22.100 He's lasted this long in our memories for a reason.

00:07:28.460 But I don't think anybody really talks about it.

00:07:31.120 Charlie's little tramp was always in it for something big, bigger, bigger than him.

00:07:35.780 Honor, decency, the kind, quiet nobility that just doesn't need a megaphone to shout its worth.

00:07:42.840 It just is.

00:07:43.840 Most people have never really even seen a Charlie Chaplin movie, but they'd recognize him.

00:07:51.520 But they don't even really know why.

00:07:55.020 Watch the movie City Lights.

00:07:57.300 It's 1931.

00:07:58.220 I don't think I've ever gotten my wife to be able to sit through it.

00:08:00.820 She's like, oh, Jesus, Charlie Chaplin.

00:08:02.440 I know it's silent and everything else, but it is so good.

00:08:05.380 It is the best storytelling on screen that you've seen, maybe ever.

00:08:10.600 And it's about this tramp, this guy with patches on his coat and just lives on the street.

00:08:17.980 And he stumbles into love.

00:08:20.260 And he loves not some starlet, not with somebody draped in diamonds, but a blind flower girl who is just selling flowers on the corner. 0.80

00:08:32.280 She has nothing.

00:08:33.520 She's poor, and the best thing about her for the little tramp is she can't see the patches on his coat. 1.00

00:08:42.440 Now, they meet each other several times through the film.

00:08:46.040 She thinks he's a millionaire.

00:08:47.240 She thinks he's a millionaire because he's buying her flowers, and there was confusion at the beginning of this giant Rolls-Royce that pulled up, and she could hear it.

00:08:58.220 She could hear the servant get the guy out of the car, and Charlie just happened to take a walk through the car because the car was blocking his way to get to the sidewalk.

00:09:06.180 So he just walked through the car, and she thought he was the millionaire.

00:09:09.300 And he doesn't correct her, but he doesn't try to impress her or demand her awe or anything.

00:09:16.560 He just loves her.

00:09:19.620 And so in the movie, he learns that there's a doctor who can restore her sight.

00:09:24.740 A miracle, but it had a pretty high price tag.

00:09:27.560 So what does this guy do?

00:09:30.720 Never has two nickels to rub together.

00:09:33.300 He actually does something that he doesn't like to do.

00:09:35.800 He goes to work.

00:09:37.020 He sweeps the streets.

00:09:38.480 He boxes in a ring.

00:09:40.120 He scrapes, and he claws for every penny just to pay her rent and then to fund her surgery.

00:09:47.540 And when he's done, when her eyes are open, he doesn't come in with a cape fluttering and, you know, you should be grateful to me.

00:09:58.740 I'm your savior.

00:09:59.520 He didn't do any of that.

00:10:00.660 Instead, he passes a flower shop, and he looks in, and he's thinking of her, and he sees there she is in the flower shop.

00:10:10.640 She can now see, and she's working in the flower shop.

00:10:13.140 She's not selling them on the corner anymore.

00:10:15.160 And she turns and looks at him, and he immediately starts to walk away.

00:10:18.860 He doesn't, he's not looking for anything.

00:10:21.520 He just is looking for her joy.

00:10:24.380 Watching her joy from the shadows is enough for him.

00:10:27.860 He doesn't need credit.

00:10:29.120 When you see this scene, I mean, it just makes your heart ache with pride.

00:10:36.080 And to me, it screams America because that's who we are.

00:10:39.460 We as people have always felt the joy of lifting others up, you know, finding your heart full because you know somebody else is smiling.

00:10:51.700 Charlie Chaplin wasn't just a face on the screen.

00:11:02.060 He is us, and sometimes we forget who that is.

00:11:08.520 He was a creator.

00:11:09.900 He was a genius.

00:11:11.740 He wrote, he came up with a little tramp in the museum.

00:11:15.640 And we have Charlie Chaplin's trappings.

00:11:21.280 This is Charlie Chaplin's cane from those movies.

00:11:27.560 It was given to Danny Kaye back in the 1950s because there was a story, I think, in Time Magazine that said, Danny Kaye is the new Charlie Chaplin.

00:11:39.640 And Danny Kaye, one day, got a knock on his door, and there standing at his door was Charlie Chaplin, an aging film star.

00:11:50.720 And he presented it to Danny Kaye and said, they say you're the new me.

00:11:56.420 You have to have the cane.

00:11:59.280 How remarkable is that?

00:12:00.900 To be called a Charlie Chaplin back then, I mean, he wrote, he directed, you know, he composed the scores for all of his films.

00:12:12.640 And the reason why I'm bringing this up is because, you know, this guy has brought joy for so long, long after he's dead.

00:12:21.340 One of the songs he wrote for the little flower girl, he wrote it, and it's in the movie.

00:12:28.660 It's the theme of the movie.

00:12:30.740 You've heard a million times, but probably had no idea that that was from that movie or any movie.

00:12:37.440 And you had no idea that Charlie Chaplin ever wrote it.

00:12:40.780 But this is who he was.

00:12:42.820 Smile, though your heart is aching.

00:12:52.780 Smile, even though it's breaking.

00:12:57.940 When there are clouds.

00:13:02.320 This is the American spirit.

00:13:06.200 It doesn't matter.

00:13:07.540 There's clouds in the sky.

00:13:08.800 There's tomorrow.

00:13:10.420 Tomorrow, no matter how much you hurt, no matter how much you're struggling, it's going to be okay.

00:13:17.480 It's going to get better.

00:13:19.460 And I don't think it's a coincidence that that song with that sentiment written by him, really who he was as a person, as a character at least, endures.

00:13:32.300 If you ask people now, name a giant of the 20th century that, from the very beginning of the 20th century to the end of the 20th century, name enduring stars.

00:13:48.140 Some people might say, I don't know, John Wayne.

00:13:55.780 Well, there's two names that will come up every time, every time.

00:13:59.120 Charlie Chaplin.

00:14:01.240 They don't even know why, but he is burned and seared into our collective memory.

00:14:05.780 And there's another one, Mickey Mouse.

00:14:11.240 And the amazing thing is, and I've never heard anybody talk about this before, so this is just me, but it's the same character.

00:14:21.380 Walt Disney ripped Charlie Chaplin off.

00:14:24.400 Mickey Mouse is Charlie Chaplin.

00:14:26.960 Mickey Mouse is the one who is down on his luck.

00:14:31.520 He's always down on his luck, him and his dog.

00:14:33.120 He's, he's, he's always, he's always there just trying to make somebody else happy.

00:14:38.880 He doesn't win in the end.

00:14:40.480 Charlie Chaplin and Mickey Mouse, they don't win in the end, but they do.

00:14:45.280 They see something bigger than just the win that we would all see.

00:14:51.300 Mickey is the animated echo of the tramp.

00:14:54.600 Which, I think those two are the best cultural icons of the 20th century.

00:15:04.480 When people think of the American century, and we think, oh, you want to go back to the little leave it to beaver days.

00:15:12.180 You want to go back to the, you know, black and white days, the days of the 1950s.

00:15:15.880 No, that's not, that isn't what I think of.

00:15:18.920 I think of individuals like the tramp and Mickey Mouse.

00:15:26.200 Those were the ones that influenced us and showed us who we could be.

00:15:39.360 So if things are getting down in your life, just remember today is Charlie Chaplin's birthday.

00:15:43.480 And, and just remember, smile.

00:15:49.620 No matter how bad things are getting, no matter how dark things are, there is light and it is still shining.

00:15:56.380 Especially this week, it's shining.

00:16:00.320 And in America, we still have it better than anybody else in the world.

00:16:04.220 As long as we can dream.

00:16:08.120 As long as we can dream.

00:16:10.400 We can be whatever we want to be.

00:16:12.540 As long as we can dream, we can do.

00:16:16.380 And Americans have always dared to dream, to do, and to believe in something better.

00:16:26.360 You know, the First Amendment wasn't written for the speech you like.

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00:16:38.920 We better protect that speech.

00:16:40.660 I'm not going to try to silence that speech.

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00:18:00.080 Now back to the podcast.

00:18:01.640 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

00:18:05.300 Last night I did a show on trade, and this is something that Stu and I have been talking about and kicking back and forth, because I am a free trader.

00:18:15.500 I believe in free trade.

00:18:17.620 However, I think that there are things that have truly changed, and it really goes back to World War II and then to the 1970s and then to NAFTA.

00:18:32.960 And we've shortchanged ourselves every step of the way, and it just, it's gutted us.

00:18:41.560 It's gutted us.

00:18:42.520 Can we play cut eight?

00:18:43.480 This is from last night, how NAFTA has affected all 50 states.

00:18:46.960 Listen.

00:18:47.580 The promised prosperity never showed up.

00:18:50.820 The NAFTA winners were Mexico and Canada.

00:18:53.800 Remember, he started that whole thing with expanded global trade.

00:18:59.100 NAFTA turned Mexico into a manufacturing haven.

00:19:02.960 U.S. companies, including Ford and GM, raced across the border for cheaper labor and to make auto parts and electronics.

00:19:11.260 During the first seven years of NAFTA, Mexico added a million new manufacturing jobs.

00:19:17.420 Good for Mexico, not good for us. 1.00

00:19:19.740 In 1993, Mexico's exports to the U.S. totaled almost $40 billion.

00:19:25.940 By 2000, those exports totaled under $136 billion, over 300% growth in seven years of NAFTA.

00:19:37.160 The U.S. now has a trade deficit, with Mexico ranging from $15 to $171 billion every single year since 1994.

00:19:47.220 What does that mean?

00:19:48.520 That means we're buying a lot of stuff, but we're not selling a lot of stuff.

00:19:55.840 We're not making stuff.

00:19:57.860 We're buying stuff.

00:19:59.260 What about Canada?

00:19:59.960 Well, they hit the NAFTA jackpot as well.

00:20:03.180 At the end of 1993, when NAFTA was signed, Canada enjoyed almost an $11 billion trade surplus with the U.S.

00:20:10.560 By the year 2000, that surplus was over $52 billion.

00:20:14.520 And just like we have with Mexico, the U.S. has a trade deficit with Canada between $13 and $78 billion every year since 1994.

00:20:23.400 It's a sweet deal if you're Canadian.

00:20:27.100 Now, look, I have no problem with prosperity all over everywhere.

00:20:31.700 I don't want to hurt other countries, but I do think it's right for us to care about our country to make sure it doesn't slide into the abyss.

00:20:41.500 Meanwhile, while that's happening, by 2000, the U.S. had over 766,000 job losses related to NAFTA.

00:20:51.320 Where's your prosperity?

00:20:52.480 Some states were hit harder than others, but NAFTA-related job losses affected all 50 states.

00:20:59.220 American factories became empty shells.

00:21:02.240 Now, that's just not a stat.

00:21:04.400 That was 766,000 families wondering, how are we going to pay our mortgage?

00:21:10.760 It is.

00:21:11.800 It's remarkable when you look at the full thing.

00:21:14.500 And you really have to understand, because I am a free trade guy.

00:21:17.400 I am.

00:21:17.840 But we have done things and signed treaties from 1946, then 70s, and then the 90s.

00:21:27.480 And we made bets that I think were bad bets.

00:21:31.960 And there's no problem on trying to help.

00:21:34.100 You know, the reason why we have a lot of these tariffs over in Europe is because in 1946, we decided we needed to help rebuild Europe.

00:21:42.740 And that's good.

00:21:43.920 That was a good thing and a righteous thing.

00:21:46.800 It wasn't necessary that we did it, but we wanted to do it.

00:21:50.640 Well, now there comes a time when we need to rebuild our own country.

00:21:54.620 And that's not at the expense of others.

00:21:58.160 It's just we have to pay attention to our own country.

00:22:01.120 And if you talk to people, you know, especially with the World Trade Organization, maybe even European Union and Canada and even China, free trade is what we have or what we had.

00:22:11.540 And then Donald Trump came in and blew it up.

00:22:15.420 But if that's what they believe, I want to take you to just one guy, Joe, car maker, Toledo, Ohio.

00:22:23.060 OK, he's a dreamer at heart.

00:22:25.620 He builds sedans to rival the very best.

00:22:28.540 OK, Joe has a vision.

00:22:30.080 His car is born in America, gleaming from the lots of Detroit to Dusseldorf.

00:22:36.300 He builds a great car.

00:22:39.320 But is the trade free?

00:22:41.240 Is it fair?

00:22:42.660 Well, let's take one of Joe's cars.

00:22:44.440 We're going to take a trip bound for Germany, $30,000 car bound for Germany.

00:22:49.200 Now, this journey, as Joe knows all too well, is a wake up call.

00:22:54.740 Joe's sedan rolls off the line, a marvel of steel and sweat, all for $30,000.

00:23:00.180 And he dreams this is going to compete in Europe.

00:23:02.760 This is just as good as anything they have over in Europe.

00:23:06.280 And it's cheaper.

00:23:08.080 It's cheaper.

00:23:09.620 People crave quality over in Europe.

00:23:11.680 The world's not a level playing field, I know, but I've just made a better car.

00:23:16.440 So the car hits the docks bound for Hamburg.

00:23:19.420 Shipping costs are $1,500.

00:23:21.200 Insurance, another $450.

00:23:23.660 Now, the cost of the $30,000 car is $31,950 before it even smells the salt of the ocean.

00:23:31.240 Joe takes it on the chin because he knows that shipping fee and insurance are part of the process.

00:23:35.560 That's the price you have to pay.

00:23:36.720 If you want to show off your creation to the rest of the world, you've got to get it over there.

00:23:40.220 Okay.

00:23:40.960 But he doesn't necessarily account for what comes next.

00:23:44.520 Joe's car now, at $31,000, docks in Germany.

00:23:48.840 And now the EU, the gatekeepers, pounce.

00:23:52.180 There's a 10% tariff because it's coming from America.

00:23:55.440 That's $3,195.

00:23:57.460 They strap that onto Joe's dream just for crossing the border.

00:24:02.280 Why?

00:24:02.960 Because the EU protects its own.

00:24:05.280 America has the doors wide open.

00:24:08.020 EU says, wait a minute, it's coming from America.

00:24:10.180 Slap tariff on it.

00:24:11.300 Okay.

00:24:12.340 So Germany's cars, just they waltz into the US with a 2.5% tariff.

00:24:17.620 Fair?

00:24:18.620 You tell me.

00:24:20.580 2.5 versus 10%.

00:24:22.720 Joe's car is now at $35,145.

00:24:26.240 And we're just getting started.

00:24:27.360 Next, they have the value-added tax, the VAT tax, 19% in Germany.

00:24:34.000 That's $6,677 hit on the tariffed price.

00:24:39.360 That's not a tariff, they say.

00:24:41.300 That's just a tax.

00:24:42.820 Okay.

00:24:44.060 But it's a tax on Joe's car.

00:24:46.220 It doesn't happen on Volkswagen.

00:24:48.220 That skips the import duty.

00:24:49.680 So he's having to pay almost $7,000 just on a VAT tax for the import of the car.

00:24:56.460 But he already paid for the import tax.

00:24:59.240 So, add another $105 customer's fee.

00:25:01.660 Joe's sedan now is at $41,927 before it leaves the port.

00:25:07.060 Free trade?

00:25:08.560 Well, more like a toll road with no off-ramp.

00:25:11.240 Next, the car's hauled inland, $315 to a Berlin dealership.

00:25:16.400 The dealer, smelling profit, tax on, 15% margin at $6,289.

00:25:22.660 Now, the car is at $48,531.

00:25:27.120 And Joe's dream is fading just a little bit.

00:25:30.320 The dealer says, you know, we're just going to round up.

00:25:31.880 It's going to be $50,000, round and proud.

00:25:34.500 Okay.

00:25:35.260 But wait.

00:25:36.480 Now, there's a VAT again, 19% on the sale.

00:25:40.620 So, it's $95 for the buyer.

00:25:44.300 The dealer offsets the import tax, but the consumer's stuck with a full bill now.

00:25:48.520 Toss in $315 for the registration and taxes.

00:25:51.740 Joe's car hits the lot at $59,815.

00:25:57.560 That's double the price that it was when it sat on the lot in Toledo, Ohio.

00:26:02.480 Now, it's the same price, maybe even a little cheaper than a BMW.

00:26:07.780 Is Joe's car as good as a BMW?

00:26:09.980 That trusted brand?

00:26:12.800 This is a rigged game.

00:26:15.440 Picture Joe back in Ohio staring at his factory floor.

00:26:19.000 His $30,000 car, his sedan, built with American grit, cost Germans $60,000. 0.85

00:26:25.540 A BMW made in Munich skips all the tariff, ducks all the import VATs.

00:26:30.360 It lands thousands cheaper.

00:26:34.240 And Joe's car, it's priced out.

00:26:37.400 His dream is crushed by tariffs.

00:26:39.160 This is why I'm a free trade guy.

00:26:40.600 I don't like tariffs.

00:26:41.520 But if you're going to have tariffs, then we should have tariffs.

00:26:44.040 And maybe, maybe, just maybe, that it's time we start thinking about ourself.

00:26:49.640 You know, I am a free trader.

00:26:51.440 But is our country in good shape?

00:26:54.600 Can we continue to do the things that we've always done by giving everybody else the benefit of the doubt?

00:27:01.420 I mean, this is not the tale that is spun by, you know, all the suits.

00:27:07.100 Not all of the, you know, Brussels and Beijing.

00:27:09.860 They're not telling this story.

00:27:11.920 Do we have free trade anywhere?

00:27:13.920 I mean, real free trade.

00:27:16.660 The reality is it's a gauntlet of fees.

00:27:18.880 It's a maze of levies.

00:27:20.200 It's a system that we've played nice with for far too long.

00:27:23.280 We've taken it because a couple of reasons.

00:27:25.580 One, we're good people.

00:27:27.720 After the war, we wanted to rebuild Japan.

00:27:29.860 We wanted to rebuild Germany and the rest of Europe. 0.95

00:27:31.840 So we just said, hey, let's do what's right for you guys because you guys are really suffering.

00:27:36.340 And it wasn't that we're just, you know, Mother Teresa.

00:27:39.720 It was good for us.

00:27:40.720 It made sense.

00:27:42.040 We wanted them as a trading partner.

00:27:43.600 We also wanted them to be safe and secure because if they're not safe and secure, we're not safe and secure.

00:27:50.280 So it was good for all of us, all of us.

00:27:53.200 But there comes a time when you're like, hey, we have our own problems here at home.

00:27:57.220 We really need to concentrate on ourself here a little bit.

00:28:00.400 We need to pay attention.

00:28:02.140 We've tried to, you know, have you ever seen a mom who just works her fingers to the bones for her kids? 1.00

00:28:07.960 And she's doing all the right things and she's not doing it to be some hero.

00:28:11.120 She's doing it because it's the right thing to do.

00:28:12.900 She's just a good mom.

00:28:14.640 But at some point, you know, the doctors and hopefully her husband and even her children will go, mom, you got to stop.

00:28:21.180 You got to stop.

00:28:21.860 You can't take care of any of us if you don't take care of yourself.

00:28:25.920 That's where we are as a country right now.

00:28:28.120 We won't be able to help anyone if we don't stop and help ourself first.

00:28:35.780 By the way, if Joe happened to be building cars in Japan and sent a car from Germany to Japan, another country that we rebuilt.

00:28:47.640 Do you know how much the tariff is?

00:28:50.320 Do you know what it would cost the Japanese car?

00:28:52.740 How much would be added to the Japanese car?

00:28:56.000 Zero.

00:28:56.480 We rebuilt these countries.

00:29:02.540 And it was our doing, our choice.

00:29:05.260 But it's time that maybe we stop.

00:29:10.520 We stop.

00:29:12.020 Okay.

00:29:12.600 We stop.

00:29:13.940 When does a person like Joe get his turn?

00:29:17.220 Ask the middle manufacturer in middle America about free and fair trade.

00:29:22.600 Because as it stands right now, I'm not sure it's free or fair.

00:29:30.540 This is a hard debate that America has to have.

00:29:34.060 This is a debate that I don't even know if I'm on the right side.

00:29:36.880 I honestly don't.

00:29:38.180 I've always been on the other side.

00:29:40.540 But I'm to the point to where I know what's coming.

00:29:46.280 I know the price we're going to have to pay.

00:29:48.700 I know how bad it is if we keep kicking the can down the road.

00:29:52.680 It's the same thing that we're doing with Social Security.

00:29:54.920 It's the same thing we're doing with spending.

00:29:56.980 It's the same thing we're doing with everything.

00:29:59.580 And we don't do anything because no politician will tell you the truth.

00:30:03.380 No politician has any idea or the guts to do it.

00:30:07.600 Or the guts to do it.

00:30:09.360 They might say they have the guts.

00:30:11.180 But then when it comes to it, then they start getting pressure and they immediately back down.

00:30:14.940 Do you know the kind of pressure that I think Donald Trump is under right now?

00:30:20.240 From the whole world, from the Fed, from everybody else, people in his own party.

00:30:26.800 You imagine the pressure this guy is under and yet he's like, no, I believe it's right.

00:30:31.540 When's the last time you had a president that did that? 0.98

00:30:35.040 That wasn't doing it for politics.

00:30:36.680 Was doing it because he actually, he might be wrong.

00:30:39.700 But he's actually doing it because he believes it's the right thing to do.

00:30:42.880 So, name the last president.

00:30:46.440 Reagan?

00:30:48.140 And what was he doing it on?

00:30:51.640 The last big threat we had to our nation.

00:30:55.120 Russia.

00:30:55.840 Communism.

00:30:57.340 This threat is just the threat of us not doing the right thing.

00:31:02.620 This isn't a threat of some foreign ideology, although we have those.

00:31:09.740 This one's just, can we stop spending money?

00:31:11.680 Can we stop giving everybody else a break and having this weird self-hatred so much that we're like, no, you know what?

00:31:19.320 Everybody else should get the break.

00:31:20.480 We shouldn't get the break.

00:31:21.760 No, no, no, no, no.

00:31:24.140 At least for a time period.

00:31:27.060 Maybe we should.

00:31:28.520 Maybe we should say, hey, everybody, we love you, but we got to take care of ourself.

00:31:33.700 I think that's what Donald Trump is doing.

00:31:38.160 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:31:41.500 If you thought your rights as a parent were secure now that President Trump is in office,

00:31:52.060 you might want to think again.

00:31:53.660 Bad actors all across the country continue to try to circumvent the administration and violate the Constitution.

00:32:00.340 In Colorado, now, there is a bill making its way through the state legislature that would create legal grounds for the state to revoke custody of parents who misgender their children.

00:32:11.400 Named the Kelly Loving Act, named after a 40-year-old transgender man who was killed in a club in 2022.

00:32:18.740 In Massachusetts, a mom is accused of kidnapping her own children.

00:32:23.260 And in California, a case was dismissed against a school district in which a guidance counselor helped a girl secretly socially transition from female to male without a single call to her mom.

00:32:33.840 And in fact, when she wanted to talk to her mom, she's in fifth grade, when she wanted to talk to her mom, the school discouraged her from talking to her mom.

00:32:44.120 Now, a federal judge has resurrected this case, and it could be precedent-setting for the rights of parents in California and all across the country because, you know, whatever happens in California trickles down to the rest of us.

00:32:55.680 This is a really important case.

00:32:57.920 Mark Trammell is the CEO for the Center of American Liberty.

00:33:01.180 Mark, welcome to the program.

00:33:02.920 How are you?

00:33:04.320 I'm well.

00:33:04.760 Thanks for having me, Glenn.

00:33:06.160 First of all, you are replacing Harmeet Dillon as the CEO of Center for American Liberty.

00:33:11.840 Those are huge shoes to fill.

00:33:14.920 But congratulations on the job.

00:33:17.320 Now let's continue the work here.

00:33:20.120 What is happening here in California?

00:33:22.740 Tell me about this story.

00:33:24.460 Yeah.

00:33:24.800 So Aurora Regino, her daughter was in the fifth grade.

00:33:28.000 She was actually 11 years old when an elementary school guidance counselor facilitated the social transition of Aurora's daughter from female to male without so much as a phone call to Aurora.

00:33:40.800 So as a result of this egregious violation of Aurora's parental rights, we filed a lawsuit.

00:33:49.620 We filed a lawsuit in federal court, and unfortunately, the court dismissed the case.

00:33:54.220 The court, I think, just absolutely got it wrong.

00:33:57.720 And that caused us to appeal to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

00:34:02.760 We filed that appeal.

00:34:03.940 Hold on just a second.

00:34:04.860 Why did they just dismiss it?

00:34:06.420 What was the reason for just not hearing the case, just dismissing it?

00:34:09.900 They dismissed it because the court reasoned that there was not a constitutional right violated.

00:34:18.500 So, in fact, what's really interesting is the response from the Court of Appeals.

00:34:25.540 So last year we filed an appeal at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

00:34:29.960 When you file that appeal, you have a three-judge panel that hears the case.

00:34:34.480 They came out just about a week or two ago and gave an opinion, and they said the lower court applied the wrong standard.

00:34:44.700 And this is the standard that the lower court applied.

00:34:47.080 They said that we failed to establish that there was a fundamental right violated because there was an existing precedent that clearly established that fundamental right, which is a ludicrous standard.

00:34:58.880 I mean, doesn't our Constitution say if it's not enumerated in the Constitution, it belongs to the state or the people?

00:35:06.260 It does.

00:35:07.380 It does.

00:35:08.220 So we don't need an enumerated right to have, you know, control of our own family and counsel with our own children, right?

00:35:17.360 Correct.

00:35:18.040 Correct.

00:35:18.620 In fact, the Ninth Circuit gave direction to the lower court and said, look, the standard that you applied is, of course, ludicrous.

00:35:26.920 The standard that you should apply is this idea that there's a fundamental right if something is objectively, deeply rooted in the nation's history and tradition.

00:35:38.440 And so here, the lower court expected us to point to precedent that said parents have a right to know and to consent to the social transition of their child in a public school setting.

00:35:51.080 Well, of course, there's not case law that says that because this is a new phenomenon that's happening, not just in California, but in states across the country where these parental secrecy policies are being implemented, being applied, where schools are really poisoning kids' minds at a very young age, as early as kindergarten, with this idea of transgenderism and changing their gender.

00:36:12.860 And it's all on this basis, this legal falsehood that kids have a right to privacy from their parents.

00:36:23.000 It's completely a legal falsehood.

00:36:26.140 So we are encouraged.

00:36:27.720 We're encouraged that this case has been revived by the Ninth Circuit of all places.

00:36:32.840 The Ninth Circuit is getting this issue right, whereas we've seen some other circuits across the country get it wrong.

00:36:39.380 Can I ask you something?

00:36:41.600 When did the Ninth Circuit become, like, halfway sane? 0.99

00:36:46.520 They've always been crazy. 0.82

00:36:48.960 What happened there?

00:36:50.360 There wasn't, like, an announcement.

00:36:52.320 It's like we just slipped through a wormhole, and all of a sudden, they make sense.

00:36:55.700 What happened there?

00:36:56.280 Yeah.

00:36:56.940 Yeah, I mean, it's bizarre.

00:36:59.900 It is.

00:37:01.020 It is.

00:37:02.220 Makes me question everything.

00:37:03.660 But anyway, go ahead.

00:37:04.960 You know, I'm not going to argue with it.

00:37:06.480 If the Ninth Circuit wants to revive this really important case, I'm happy.

00:37:11.200 I'm really happy about it.

00:37:12.600 And, Glenn, I think what I would love to point out is just that last year, Gavin Newsom signed AB 1955 into law in California.

00:37:20.260 And he did that in response to conservative parents who ran for the school board.

00:37:24.700 They got elected.

00:37:25.740 And the first thing that they did was they passed notification policies.

00:37:29.480 They said if a school starts facilitating the social transition of a child, they have to at least notify parents.

00:37:36.880 Not even necessarily get consent from parents.

00:37:38.860 At least call them.

00:37:40.360 Let them know that this is happening. 1.00

00:37:42.380 God, screw you. 0.97

00:37:43.120 So in response to that, the attorney general of California, Rob Bonta, actually sued the Chino Valley Unified School District and others as well to have those policies declared unconstitutionally. 0.98

00:37:59.860 They had some success doing that.

00:38:01.120 But they signed this law, Gavin signed this law, AB 1955, that would strip school districts of the ability to even pass and implement such notification policies.

00:38:15.700 They want to do all of this to kids behind closed doors and not let parents know.

00:38:21.760 But Aurora's case is important because whereas AB 1955 is a state law, Aurora's case is a federal civil rights issue, right?

00:38:31.640 It arises under the Constitution, under the 14th Amendment.

00:38:35.800 And so if Aurora's case is ultimately successful, it can pretty much gut 1955 in California.

00:38:45.680 And I think set a precedent that will be very persuasive across the country.

00:38:51.180 So we're looking at the decision that will come out is either that children have rights and can make decisions that are unrestricted or nearly unrestricted or parents, their power of their children is nearly unlimited, right?

00:39:11.940 Yes.

00:39:12.680 And also another third actor in there is really the role of government run schools, right?

00:39:19.000 This idea that government run schools know better than parents, what's in the best interest of their children.

00:39:27.680 And so it's almost like this presumption that parents are nefarious.

00:39:32.220 They're not going to support their children in a transition.

00:39:36.160 Wherever people stand, and there are strong beliefs on both sides of this issue in the country.

00:39:41.680 But, you know, Aurora Regino, we certainly make this point in the papers we filed with the court.

00:39:48.360 Aurora Regino stated she would have been supportive of her daughter's transition.

00:39:56.300 Wow.

00:39:56.520 But she was taken out of the equation altogether.

00:39:58.780 She wasn't even given the opportunity to be part of it.

00:40:02.180 And if she thought that this was actually inspired, if she thought that this was actually originating from her daughter and not being pushed upon her by the school, the reaction would be a little bit different.

00:40:12.440 So, in fact, this is not the first case we've handled with this set of facts.

00:40:18.880 The first case we handled was the case of Jessica Conan in Salinas, California.

00:40:23.540 Jessica's daughter was in the sixth grade when teachers invited her to an equality club that met during the lunch hour.

00:40:31.780 And it was the only extracurricular that wasn't after school.

00:40:34.780 You know, if clubs meet after school, parents have to arrange for pickup.

00:40:38.300 But if it's in the lunch hour during recess, these things can be kept secret from parents.

00:40:44.460 And that case resulted in a settlement.

00:40:47.860 We recovered damages for Jessica.

00:40:51.980 But I think what has to continue to happen is when parents see this happening, they have to go to the school board.

00:40:59.400 They have to shout them down.

00:41:02.300 I mean, they really have to give it to them.

00:41:04.340 If they're implementing these policies that violate parental rights, if they're being adversarial to parents in the way that they desire to raise their children, and they have to run for school board.

00:41:16.700 They have to win.

00:41:17.780 They have to pass these notification policies.

00:41:20.000 They have to stand up.

00:41:20.960 They have to file these lawsuits. 0.98

00:41:22.260 They have to fight back.

00:41:23.280 And we're seeing this groundswell across the country.

00:41:26.260 And as someone who's a parent myself, and really, really, obviously, because of the work that we do, interested in preserving these rights, it's really encouraging to see not only the movement toward parental rights, but also seeing that even courts in California are starting to get it right.

00:41:50.580 And come around to this idea that, of course, this is a fundamental right.

00:41:55.420 I mean, when was it that a parent didn't have the right to name their child, right?

00:42:01.820 Like, if the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeal says that a fundamental right is deeply rooted in the history and tradition of a nation, parents have always had the right to give their child a name.

00:42:12.460 And that right extends beyond the formation of the United States.

00:42:16.220 And this is really across the spectrum of humanity.

00:42:18.660 Parents have always given their children a name.

00:42:20.820 Well, now, schools are giving kids a new name, a new identity, new pronouns, all without so much as calling parents.

00:42:31.460 That phenomenon has to stop.

00:42:33.660 And the Center for American Liberty is dedicated to ending it.

00:42:37.800 Wow.

00:42:38.660 I never thought of it that way about the power of the schools giving a new name to your children.

00:42:46.520 That is bad.

00:42:49.000 Mark, thank you so much.

00:42:50.340 When are we going to hear the results of this?

00:42:52.040 When is this actually being argued and when are we going to hear the results?

00:42:55.420 So the Ninth Circuit just gave this ruling.

00:42:58.280 So they punted it back to the district court with direction.

00:43:02.420 So, look, this is a slow process.

00:43:04.860 We're probably months away from another ruling in this case.

00:43:09.780 But we'll be sure to keep you up to date.

00:43:12.980 And you'll be the first to know.

00:43:14.180 Thank you very much.

00:43:15.240 By the way, if you want to help them in their work, this one affects all of us in every state.

00:43:19.220 LibertyCenter.org.

00:43:21.100 LibertyCenter.org.

00:43:22.380 Mark Tremel, thank you for joining us.

00:43:25.060 You know, I have a friend who lives in Washington State who told me that the governor, look this up, see if he's signed it yet,

00:43:30.720 that the House and the Senate in Washington State has just passed a bill that says in an emergency, the state has complete right to your health.

00:43:41.760 So, in other words, it can do anything it wants.

00:43:45.560 If there is a pandemic, they have complete right to make all the decisions for your health.

00:43:51.880 And he loves living in Washington State.

00:43:55.200 I mean, you know, there's some issues with it because he thinks like we do.

00:44:00.040 But he loves it.

00:44:01.140 I mean, it's where he grew up.

00:44:02.620 And he's like, I can't.

00:44:03.780 I can't.

00:44:04.340 If the governor signs it, I can't live here.

00:44:06.040 I can't have that hanging over my head because they will use it.

00:44:09.840 Why would you pass something like that?

00:44:11.600 Do you see it?

00:44:14.840 I'm looking and seeing bits and pieces here.

00:44:17.400 But, you know, I don't know if it's exactly as described.

00:44:23.480 I have to look at it.

00:44:24.520 It's the first time hearing about it.

00:44:25.640 Yeah.

00:44:25.820 I hadn't heard about it either.

00:44:27.640 And, you know, he called me up this weekend.

00:44:29.820 He's like, have you heard what's happening in Washington?

00:44:32.040 I'm like, no.

00:44:33.840 I mean, if that's true, if that's what's happening, then find out.

00:44:37.140 If that's what's happening, could you live there?

00:44:41.820 I mean, I suppose I could live there until an emergency started and then leave.

00:44:45.300 Yeah.

00:44:45.680 And then if they say nobody's leaving the state because of the emergency, you're stuck there.

00:44:49.840 No, you don't have control of my health.

00:44:51.580 You're not going to know.

00:44:52.720 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:44:54.360 They would have massive constitutional concerns, problems with saying, hey, you can't leave the state.

00:45:01.160 That's quite clear in the Constitution.

00:45:02.940 They can't do that.

00:45:04.360 But, I mean, again, who knows?

00:45:06.260 I suppose, though, you hit that standard and you're like, well, is there any place on earth I can live?

00:45:11.260 Yeah.

00:45:11.400 Which is probably no.

00:45:13.520 That's insane.

00:45:14.660 You need to build a platform.

00:45:16.040 Like the guy off the coast of the UK.

00:45:17.820 You can just, like, build a platform and have everyone come out and party.

00:45:20.720 That's what you got to do.

00:45:21.640 Have you seen that platform?

00:45:23.580 That's not really where I want to live.

00:45:26.340 No, no.

00:45:26.940 But I'm saying I don't.

00:45:29.000 And even there, they still, of course, all those things always get taken down in international waters.

00:45:33.040 I know.

00:45:33.380 So, I mean, at some level, you can't protect against everything.

00:45:38.280 I don't think there's certainly no legal right for a state to keep you within a state.

00:45:43.240 So, that is at least something.

00:45:44.940 Well, they don't have the right to tell you exactly what to put in your body and not put in your body what you have to take and what you not have to take.

00:45:50.400 That is terrifying.

00:45:50.740 I would agree as well.

00:45:51.500 Just terrifying.

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