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Cnn has done it again. They spent the time and money to put together a laughable coverage of Alligator Alcatraz. And laugh we will, as Pat joins us. Also, a heartfelt message to the youth of the country, and a thank you to the one and only Matt van Swart for his help on Hurricane Helene.
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richer than you think well cnn has done it again uh they spent the time and money to put together
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a laughable coverage of alligator alcatraz and laugh we will as pat joins us also a heartfelt
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message to the youth of the country and matt van swall with a thank you for your help on hurricane
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we're just sitting there looking at cnn they're showing these pictures of these uh you know famine
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uh famished children uh that you know they say that they're not being fed well show me the parents
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you know because what's happening is these children are having muscular dystrophy or other ailments and
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it's now coming out that it's verified these are not starving children if they are show me they're
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starving parents parents are just well fed yeah notice that have you noticed that you'll see the parents
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holding the child children and they're well fed how did that happen yeah i mean i don't know about
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you but i feed my children before i feed myself yeah let's that personalize yeah i mean what i'm
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talking about when i'm saying me i mean the royal right the royal okay you know what i mean pat great
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joins us now hello pat hello oh great oh so great so great so great i want to play something from uh cnn
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as they were describing the shooter yesterday you know right off of the heels of look at these
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these starving children and their fat parents uh they go right into the shooting and listen to this
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showing you here to john's reporting that they do know the fit what he looks like uh male possibly
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white mustache sunglasses in that building isolated to they believe uh to various locations
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possibly white possibly let me translate hopefully white yes that yes what it is
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translate further not white well very much not white impossibly white and you're judging that by
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what the photos yeah by the photos of the guy of the actual shooter yes he's possibly white
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not why he's possibly can i possibly quibble with your analysis in another universe if he had
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another parent he could have been white he's possibly white i will say though to be fair to
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aaron burnett what we see in the video is his face which is clearly not white right however the rest
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of his body is covered by clothing oh right entirely up to 90 percent white yeah he could be
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we don't know possibly possibly white white we don't know that is crazy i can't argue with that
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i didn't see the rest of his meanwhile while this is going on in areas like we gotta have gun control
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what's happening with a crime on our cities then they the same network is going after alligator alley
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oh alligator alcatraz yes yeah yeah sorry alligator alcatraz this clip is amazing sarah gonzalez on her
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show was showing this to pat and i yesterday and we were we were just flabbergasted by it it is a it
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is a apparently supposed to be the i the design of the piece is to make you feel bad for people who go to
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alligator alcatraz now let me let me let me just ask you who goes to alligator alcatraz criminals
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criminals go to alligator alcatraz people who have number one broken our immigration laws and likely
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have committed other some more serious crimes if you will uh they go to alligator alcatraz and it is
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not a permanent facility it's a temporary holding facility which is next to a runway which has planes
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on it that take them to other countries where they're supposed to be but there's alligators
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but there's all around and again surrounding it there are alligators surrounding within miles of
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the facility yes i mean it is in an area where alligators may live i don't know if you've known
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this i've lived in florida there the whole place the whole place is where alligators may live
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sometimes yeah you look out at your little cul-de-sac yeah there's an alligator crossing the street
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that's alligator okay they don't people don't say this is my alligator house no uh they don't live
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inside of alligator alcatraz they they they exist i mean in theory if you escaped and try to swim
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across the swamp you may run into an alligator like any swamp in the state okay yep it is not an act
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like it's just a kitschy name for a place that makes it sound scarier than it is frankly it's just at an
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airport it's a bunch of tents at an airport that's what it is okay show this to me here's the video
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this is sad sad hopeless oh no it's a type of torture torture these are the stories of migrants
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held at alligator alcatraz oh no a new detention facility deep in the florida everglades deep using
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a plan of the site shown during president trump's visit and photos from media tours and social media
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cnn created a 3d model oh my gosh why when you have the photos of it
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why here are the giant tents where people report being crammed into cells
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oh my gosh there's two like what they've done here there's two bunk beds yes what they've done here
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as pat points out is take an actual photo of the inside of alligator alcatraz and then and then
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formed it into a 3d model of the same photo so what you're seeing are a couple of beds
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and then there is a 3d model of a couple of beds what is possibly the purpose of that i think it's
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to make it more mysterious yes it's like we can't even get a camera in there well you just showed us
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the actual photo and now you're doing the 3d mock-up look at that it is it's superimposed there's the
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photo and then it just fades into the 3d model that's amazing are what that's right that's right
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imagine using resources on that it's it's a why would you need that so they can rotate around the
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outside of the bed that is legitimately what they use it for but there's so much more it's so much
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more packed impactful this one it is okay here we go into cells made of chain link fence packed with
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bunk beds cnn spoke with detainees to hear firsthand accounts of what conditions are like on the inside
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some asked not to be named for fear of retribution yeah because of the way that we have been treated
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it has been a very terrible experience oh no oh my gosh you want it to be a nice experience don't you
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let me just go back to every torture place you've ever heard how many times did we get the phone call
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from dietrich bonhoeffer where he's like was it 12 it was 12 times this is a really horrible
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this is a really horrible i don't like it here at all i mean you know edie amin he's putting people
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in boxes we never got the phone call from them no wait a minute edie you might be torturing me and
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putting me in a hole but wait a minute i demand my phone call to the press as they pointed out it is
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true some of the people who did this um did not want their names to be used some of them did now
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how many times have you seen that from when a fascist dictator has imprisoned people and tortured
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them they don't usually get to speak at all but they certainly wouldn't be like yeah my name's bob
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i'm in bunk 74 all right go ahead detained by ice when he showed up for a meeting with his
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probation officer oh no positive he has a probation officer which leads you to believe
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he might be on probation which also leads to he committed crimes
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i love that all right sorry it's 32 people per cell or per cage really because this is a cage
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yeah it's a metal cage strapped in with uh zip ties oh three open toilets are shared by dozens of men
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say there's no running water or sewage system roger moreno who has lived in the u.s stop that is
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that is that is the same story for many mobile home parks in florida surrounded by alligators
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very good point it's also true of every concert festival i've ever been to right they don't have
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running but they do have a lot of people sharing the bathroom it's not the prettiest situation and
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the chain link fence is held together by those all ever defensive zip ties zip ties
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do you remember all the the reports from world war ii when himmler was saying we used zip ties on the
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cell i don't uh also like you know it's such a uh a um they use the word cages as if that's
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worse than cells like is it is a chain link cage which would be a holding facility worse than a cell
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with steel bars no and concrete walls like if anything it would be more open and better yeah
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but they use it in the opposite way to make it well it's actually basically cages and they say you know
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87 people to the cage look at the size of the cage right yeah look at the size it's massive yeah they've
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got 87 bunk beds i mean you know i did you see the one in where was it el salvador where there's like
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60 people on a bunk right like that's not this situation not at all all right go ahead
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are shared by dozens of men who say there's no running water or sewage system no no roger moreno
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who has lived in the u.s for more than 30 years told cnn the rain makes it worse
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the toilets when it rains they overflow and the cells we're in fill up with sewage
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detainees told cnn the lights are kept on 24 hours a day
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i have to personally put a rag on top of my head to at least try to take a nap because the light is
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so bright there's 24 led lights in the roof and it's like shining bright now stop for a second
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now i wasn't familiar with the right to nap at when you're being held in a facility like this i mean
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you would want the lights to maybe go down unless you were afraid of a shiv
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let me go back to the next guy who is uh also has a criminal record to tell us about how horrible
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this is it's like shining bright juan palma martinez has lived in the u.s for more than 20 years
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and was also picked up by ice at a routine meeting with his probation officer oh wait wait what pat
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another another one picked up at a meeting with his probation officer what could possibly be the
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reason he would be visiting a probation maybe he just has he just friendly with them you know i
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don't think so like hey my man hey my probation officer maybe it's slang of some is there some
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slang i know of it usually indicative of committing crimes that's interesting it was a visit it was a
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visit it wasn't an appointment it was a visit a visit a little visit there you go all right go
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ahead no when it's daytime or when it's nighttime i don't sleep it's affecting me mentally and physically
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the tents aren't sealed okay stop for a sec i just want to rewind what he just said here okay or just
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review he said he can't tell if it's nighttime or daytime that's a complaint now you could say that could be
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like a problem right like you i mean you know it would be weird to not be able to detect that yeah
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listen to the literal next complaint they have i no longer know when it's daytime or when it's
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nighttime i don't sleep it's affecting me mentally and physically the tents aren't sealed you can see
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cracks in this image okay stop if the if you can see cracks and that means you could see the outside and
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would be able to detect whether it's daytime or nighttime i love the fact i love the fact that
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they have president trump and ronda or i mean uh that's not ron yeah that's ronda santa standing
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there on a tour with the press of this facility right like we're not hiding it they did not need the
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3d mock-up no no it's they've there is a 3d model with the 3d rendered trump in that no i'd like to
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to know this is what we believe the president looks like
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in this image and at the height of the hot florida summer that means the insects are relentless
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yesterday the air conditioning went out the air can we had the whole morning without air
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conditioning our air conditioning has gone down in our house and i've had days without air
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conditioning in this very building the air conditioning has gone out like a month for a
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month it took a month and we suffered every day with it not to mention the entire continent of europe
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has no air conditioning probably your home back from wherever you came from has no air doesn't have
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air conditioning and i would guess lots of bugs right lots of insects in tropical climates thank
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you pat pat gray unleashed this is the best of the glenn beck program and we really want to thank you for
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listening matt van swal is uh with us now he is north carolina hurricane victim and a guy who i shared
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his email on the air yesterday hi matt how are you hey glenn i'm good how are you i'm good i imagine
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you're kind of saying that with a smile on your face because you could not have ever imagined you'd be
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on the program with me no chance no no chance at all i love that uh so matt quickly just recap your
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situation for anybody who missed it yesterday yeah so uh like you said um we live in western north carolina
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um and after uh hurricane helene didn't hit our house super hard but hit our neighbors uh very very
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hard and uh during that time period we were um trying to help a lot of people we were pretty liberal
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during that time um i think i sent your producer some photos of my son in like a black lives matter onesie
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and i was wearing a a a mask that said um yeah trump's slogan is make america great again and i i
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wore this red mask in in 2020 that said it hasn't been great wow um anyway so wait wait wait wait
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were you the kind of person that would not have would have would have exiled family members or
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friends if they said they were for donald trump we oh man this is so embarrassing but we made my wife's
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dad take off his trump paraphernalia when he came to the house wow we were that that level okay so if
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he's right he remembers yeah no i i mean i know people you know on both sides i know people so anyway
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yeah yeah um so back to the hurricane yeah back to the hurricane um so we were trying just trying to help
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people um and it just seemed like the the government was dropping the ball everywhere i mean it was
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unbelievable and i i did not feel like the news was getting out from how bad hurricane helene was and
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it didn't it wasn't making sense to me at all um like the it felt i always thought that the real news
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was the mainstream news like the the news i saw on cnn or msnbc um or reading the new york times was just
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that was the biggest news uh and if a story was big enough and good enough it would just make the news
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but none of the insane stories that i was hearing from my neighbors and people on the ground was making
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the news at all like at all and we were talking with people who were um there watched their homes get
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flooded had applied to fema and had been waiting for months and fema would come out and do these press
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conferences and say hey um you know nobody's living in a tent and i was like i was just driving through
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swananoa and i just saw 12 tents like what are you talking about and so i would make these videos i had
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a drone and i would make these videos and say hey they're not telling you the truth because i live here
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and i walk out my front door and i i see devastation and it's not being talked about at all
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um and it was crazy because i got a call during this time period from one of your reporters uh steve baker
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yeah um and steve called me uh because he wanted to talk about the fema camp um that was just up the
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road from us and how they were um not helping people that are packing up and they were going home
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and as soon as steve messaged me and said he's a blaze reporter i was like i don't trust this dude
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at all um like uh he's related to you know glenn beck i you know honestly thought y'all were pretty
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like crazy right radical right wing that's what i had heard i know you know i know what they've done
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i know what the media has done to me matt i got it yeah and so i you know i i didn't even like
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my i remember vividly my wife and i in bed saying like should we talk to this reporter like and we
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were like okay i guess we should do it but we should have our guard way up and so uh we talked to steve
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and steve completely disarmed us both it was it is unlike a phone call i've ever had where i thought
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the person calling me was going to be one way and they were completely like i had this i don't know
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thought in my head that any reporter on the right wing was was mean and not kind and just trying to
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push a narrative and i talked to steve and i can't emphasize this enough steve let me speak he asked
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questions and he earned my trust he disarmed me with his kindness and it was one of the most shocking
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moments i've ever had uh because no one would talk to us we had a direct my wife works in film and
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she had a direct line to cnn uh and they ghosted her completely they would not talk to her about what
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was going on in western north carolina and it was like we were alone in a situation that we thought would
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be on the news non-stop and so to have steve like listen to us say yes you're not crazy this is actually
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happening and it's even worse than you imagined it's just unbelievable i've i've honestly never
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experienced anything like that so i just want to say thank you to steve so matt so what was your
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what was happening in your mind when your worldview was crumbling but just about the news when you're
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like wait a minute i thought cnn i thought that you know and they're ghosting you what was going
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through your mind and your honestly your heart when you're like uh-oh wait a minute something's really
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wrong here it it just felt it honestly it felt like i just described you you would just think that the
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news is the news and if the story is big enough it makes the news no matter what but i did not even
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imagine that because it was an election cycle and that the hurricane reflected poorly on the response
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of the current leadership that they would just not talk about the story at all i mean there were i i
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posted tweets i i did not have a twitter following at the time and i posted tweets about what was going
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on in western north carolina and they would get millions of views because the stories were so insane
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like fema promising a hundred homes to um people in western north carolina by thanksgiving and then they
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only delivered 40 or the fact that there were no homes delivered between september 27th and the middle of
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november zero and you think and there were people sleeping in tents all over and i thought this would
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be on the news this would be the news and it just never was and it blew my mind and at that moment i knew
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there's a bent to this media like there is a bent because it's not it's not the economics because if it
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were the economics these stories are getting millions of views on twitter like if the stories are real and
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the stories are crazy they're just choosing not to cover them it's an act of choice to not cover the
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stories happening in western north carolina and that that was the start for me where i thought i i don't
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think i can trust these guys anymore um and that that worldview just kind of started crumbling for me
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that the the news maybe had an insane bent and i just didn't realize it because one would think
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that if every news organization told you the same story that that story and the bent to that story
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there would be no bet and because news organizations would hold each other accountable
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like the story you'd read on new the new york times is the same story you see on cnn is the same you see
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in the washington post so you're like oh if all of these people are telling you the same thing they're not
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all colluding right to tell you a story with a bet would they and it just turns out yeah yeah they are
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um i i will tell you i feel for you i've i've had um i've had maybe two or three of those moments where
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my worldview collapsed on me everything that i thought was real i realized oh my gosh it's not
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like that at all and it's like at least i did i almost went through mourning in a way to where i you
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you're you you're just losing such a big part of what you believed and uh it's just it's soul
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crushing i don't know if you felt it that hard but there's been a couple of things like that for me
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where it's just been soul crushing because you just you just knew and now well no it's not that at all
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and i just i honestly looking back offloaded so much of my critical thinking to the news and just
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said oh okay i read headline therefore i know the truth no more investigation is needed
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and that's on me um i shouldn't have done that um and once you actually sometimes even when you read the
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whole article you can actually get the truth of the story it's shocking to me how many headlines
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are just um virulently anti-gop republican conservatives but then you read the article
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and you're like wait a minute if i should have just read this article um but it really it kind of came
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crashing down for me at that point you're listening to the best of the glenn beck podcast hear more of
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so lucy biggers is somebody who wrote an article u.s politics it says uh i woke up to the news last
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week that 33 year old democratic socialist zoran mamdani had beaten andrew cuomo in the democratic
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primary for new york city mayor charismatic handsome and social media savvy mamdani amassed an enormous
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following of young new yorkers and spurred more than 50 000 volunteers to get out in canvas for
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him his promise of free bus rides free child care and government-run grocery stores and his vow to tax
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the rich reminded me of another young good-looking charismatic democrat who upset the heavily favored party
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nearly a decade ago alexandria ocasio cortez back then i was one of aoc's biggest supporters in fact
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it was not too much to say that i helped her win in the fall of 2017 when i was a video producer at
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the left-winging millennial news company now this i found myself at a small meet and greet event hosted
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by arena political action committee dedicated to backing those new democratic candidates the speakers
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that night were unknown candidates hoping to take back the house one of the candidates was uh
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alessa elisa slotkin who has since become michigan's junior u.s senator um and there was aoc an
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unknown bartender turned volunteer for bernie sanders out of all of the candidates i hit it
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off with alexandria she was beautiful humble articulate and had a spark of charisma you could
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tell this girl was going places we're the same age and it was easy to talk about our frustration
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and fear of donald trump our love of bernie and the need for real change from universal health care to
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climate action to free college we exchanged numbers two months later i booked her for a video
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interview on the now this program aoc arrived to our office and by the end of the hour we felt like
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old friends my friend working behind the camera is also completely taken by aoc and her vision we
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agreed that aoc had tapped into something real and it was going to be popular with the coming generation
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i'm now 35 a mother of two and a homeowner like so many other people before me i've grown up
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and my eyes have my ideas have moderated much of the hyperpoly being uh thrown at mom donnie and
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his followers goes too far for example that mom donnie is a 100 communist lunatic as trump says
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i don't know if that's true but i no longer think that giving the government more of our money
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to run free programs is the right way to do things i spend time at the dmv and tell me if you want
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government run grocery stores like run like the dmv we need less government in our lives less
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regulation and lower taxes so individuals can flourish and create capital and prosperity
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hopefully these young new yorkers don't have to live through the downturn of new york city to learn
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the hard way that socialism never works this is a woman who helped aoc get elected i still have
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sympathy for the young people who see inequality and poverty and want to do something about it their
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hearts are in the right place but sadly the promises that charismatic people like mom donnie
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and aoc sell are not the solutions that young people are seeking they have been mistakenly taught
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that our capitalist society is the source of all of their problems and the only way to fix it is with
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more government spending whether from the lack of life experience or just pure ignorance they fail
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to realize that programs offering free everything have to be paid for and nothing is free the politics
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and policies they promote will lead to a more centralized government with more power higher
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taxes and a higher cost of living i think we should extend these people grace and realize that most of
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them don't have any idea that they're supporting horrible ideas that literally ruin civilizations we
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should understand that they just want to make the world a better place that is what mom donnie with
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his charming demeanor and understanding of social media is promising to do he is still way ahead in new york
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it's weird because i have always been an optimist yes i'm an optimistic catastrophist i know that but
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i've always been an optimist i've always believed in people i believed in the country i believe people can
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change and the older i get i see some of that wearing thin you know what i mean there are times i catch
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myself and i'm like no stop it stop it you know the truth you've just had 60 years of being beaten
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into the ground nothing's going to change nothing's going to change and it's all a game
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and that's where the gift of youth comes in because it is it is the power to renew to breathe life
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into the world that frankly has gone a little weary has lost all of our hope we're tired we're cynical
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and then you the youth show up and you renew us and that's part of your job you are the hope
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that this entire country is starving for right now and soon enough whether we like it or not
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the world is yours to shape and it doesn't have to be shaped the way we want it shaped
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but let me just plea to those give a plea to those who are young you need to understand something very
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very very real your passion your energy your hunger to change the world it is fantastic and it is not
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invisible it's not going unnoticed and there are those who see it and are excited by it but there are
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those who see it and crave it they would they would gleefully take it twist it bend it and weaponize it
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to their own ends because history repeats itself history is not clean it's not clear cut revolution war
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protest all of these things they're not fairy tales they happened and they can happen again and for every
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cause that was just there was somebody lurking in the wings ready to hijack it let me show you
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how this works they take you back to 1933 the hitler youth brainwashed millions of german children
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into nazi ideology why because they knew the youth they were optimistic they were idealistic they were
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looking for hope they were looking for something bigger than themselves that they could be involved
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in well they ended up spying on families disrupting the church services they helped lead the german
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military's aggressive style and eventually all of that led to the holocaust and you know the rest of the
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story unless you went to a public school in 1966 who who did mao rely on the red guards
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what did the red guards do they attacked the intellectuals they destroyed artifacts they led chaos and
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violence in the street they they pulled university professors out and stoned them killed them beat them
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and their families they were responsible for so much of the loss of freedom in china and who were the
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red guards they were the student-led youth groups they were you if you're in that age group that's
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who and why it wasn't them they wanted to be a part of something bigger to change the world the hitler
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youth wanted to be involved in something bigger and there was always somebody who was older who couldn't
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get it done themselves and needed the power of the youth to be able to take that and and and
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one million deaths in a hundred days they used machetes to kill a hundred a million people in a
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hundred days who was the main perpetrator of this the youth militia
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misguided wanting to be a part of something for justice something to change the world
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used by leadership 2020 blm americans youth flood the streets hammers fists fire mass destruction
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remember you have to have the black square for blm did you know that all of that money ended up most of
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it at blm i'm not making this up look it up blm incorporated
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that money was laundered that money was lost useful idiot that's what stalin used to say
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i know you want to change the world i know i do too i'm more jaded
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because i just i we've tried to do it over and over and over again and that's the problem
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they know they can't do it because they've tried and so they're now co-opting you and they're
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convincing you that this is your idea it's that's exactly what but they're not they're not most times
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most times they are looking for their own greed and their own power
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so i know you want to change the world just don't you want to make sure that you're on the right
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don't you want to make sure you're you're not on the popular side not on the easy side but on the truthful
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you want to believe and the people my age no longer believe many cases but i do i believe in you
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there are millions of us that believe that you know it's your turn it's your turn
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but don't be used don't become a tool of somebody who couldn't fix it themselves because
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if they could they would have they would have fixed it by now but they didn't
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and now they're looking to you not to lead but to serve the power
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we all have to learn what what history is begging us to learn yeah the odds are stacked against real
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change but here's the good good news real change never comes from the odds it comes from the people
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but that change is often very dangerous if the young people don't know history
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they want to choose to be more than just useful
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you have to choose to be true because you have a light that is dimmed as life goes on
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you are the balance between the people who still see the light still believe in the light but have
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worked their whole life to try to make that that light become stronger and in many cases we have in
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many ways but in others it just seems like it's never going to end it's never going to be a fight we
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win and that's the way power wants it and so we look down to you and we're like they have the light
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they believe in the light and if that light is true if it is based in thinking in reason
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in critical questioning then it's true it's an it's a universal and eternal light
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and it's your job to not just carry it but to guard it and protect it and refine it in the truth
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because now is your turn and i am so excited to see what you're about to build
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our job at my age is to protect them to tell to to point out the weasels that may be duping them
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just like she did she's like look i i get it i was there but that's not true
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if you if you base your life in truth and you guard that light you are going to do something
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remarkable the future will be brighter than anything you dared to imagine it is and the best part is
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it will be yours it will be your success not somebody else who is going to take your success and mock it
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