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00:00:00.000 Hey podcasters, it's Glenn and Stu and we've got a great program for you today. Yes, another

00:00:05.780 epic podcast. This week is actually a week you don't want to miss on either radio, the podcast

00:00:13.500 or on Blaze TV. We're doing a special on Thursday night at 930. And it's explaining this Ukrainian

00:00:23.840 Trump Biden democratic scandal. And a scandal it is probably one of the more important scandals

00:00:31.900 of my lifetime. This is going to be bigger than Watergate. And I want you to I want you to see it

00:00:39.960 this week. We are today talking about the whistleblower, his firsthand knowledge, how

00:00:48.660 this actually started in 2016. With the Democrats, everything the Democrats have started to accuse

00:00:57.960 Donald Trump of with Russia. Maybe they they thought that was going on because that's exactly 0.92

00:01:03.520 what they were doing in Ukraine. And we lay out some of that evidence. Also, Hillary thinks that

00:01:09.600 Trump is obsessed with her. I think she's gone insane. All this and more on today's podcast.

00:01:18.660 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:32.500 There's a couple of things that the mainstream media are not going to tell you about that are

00:01:37.680 very important. And they will be exposed in full detail. And we'll tie this whole story together for

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00:02:08.740 a subscriber, thank you so much. And if you'd like to become one, we'll give you 10 10 dollars off your

00:02:15.340 yearly subscription now at blaze tv.com slash Glenn promo code Glenn to save the 10 percent. Now,

00:02:22.160 there's a couple of things. First of all, the whistleblower came out last week. And he said that

00:02:29.180 that Trump said at least eight times that he needed a big favor. And he he wanted Rudy Giuliani. That's not

00:02:38.340 true. He brought really Rudy Giuliani up twice. And the president of Ukraine was the first one to

00:02:44.260 bring him up. Not Donald Trump. He also said that. What was the other one that was just debunked this

00:02:53.600 weekend? I mean, this is a central part of the whistleblower complaint, which is to say that, yes,

00:03:01.040 uh, look, there is a this particular transcript of this call was hidden, right? This is the it was

00:03:09.600 it was moved over to a super secret vault. Exactly. And that was if you read the actual report, which

00:03:15.000 we have, you see that really what it is, is an outline of publicly available information like things

00:03:23.400 Rudy Giuliani said on television, things the president tweeted, all that's in there with a couple of

00:03:29.380 additions. I've heard there's a call with the Ukraine where this was discussed. And the transcript

00:03:34.900 was moved to the super secret place to hide it. So that shows that it was they knew it was something

00:03:41.300 bad. That is central to the argument of the whistleblower case. Already, this is Monday. When

00:03:48.660 did this thing come out Thursday? We're only on Monday of the next week. And already that point by the

00:03:55.880 mainstream is already accepted by the mainstream media that well, no, they were doing that with

00:03:59.960 all the transcripts. They're doing that with all the transcripts, because as you might remember,

00:04:03.640 the Mexico and Australia calls with the president were leaked to the media. So they to take to fight

00:04:10.640 those leaks, pulled all these transcripts and started putting them in a super secret vault.

00:04:14.840 So this whistleblower didn't realize that or didn't put it together or the rumors they heard didn't

00:04:20.620 include that information. And so they made it a central part of their case to say, look, this was

00:04:27.820 secret that shows it was a problem because it was hidden behind this super secret vault. The media has

00:04:33.440 already accepted the Trump administration position on this, which is, oh, actually, they were doing it

00:04:39.300 because of these initial early leaks. What's incredible is this whistleblower has zero credibility,

00:04:46.660 zero, eight times. He said the president made him a promise. He never made him a promise,

00:04:53.380 asked him for a favor and said, I'm going to hold things back on your defense unless you help me.

00:05:00.600 He never said that. Nothing like it. The media had to edit out 543 words between I have a favor

00:05:10.680 and also Joe Biden and Hunter Biden had to edit out five, about 540 words. The guy has no credibility.

00:05:22.160 Now we find out that the super secret vault is something they do with all of the phone calls.

00:05:28.780 This is why you don't take secondhand knowledge. But let me give you something else that just

00:05:34.920 broke this weekend. We don't know when, but the intelligence community in the last few months

00:05:43.360 secretly eliminated the requirement that whistleblowers provide direct firsthand knowledge

00:05:51.100 of alleged wrongdoings. Now, this was the intelligence community that changed their form.

00:05:59.700 And this wasn't uploaded until September 24th, 2019 at 425 in the afternoon. That is just days before

00:06:10.720 the anti-Trump complaint was declassified and released to the public. The markings on the document

00:06:18.760 state that it was revised in August 2019, but no specific date of a revision is disclosed. So the document

00:06:28.160 was revised in August of this year by the intelligence community. Then it was only told to the public

00:06:37.680 just a couple of days before this whistleblower report came out. Now, what was the claim from the media

00:06:46.320 that Donald Trump was trying to hold this whistleblower report back and all of these things were always

00:06:55.240 reported to Congress? Wasn't that, wasn't that the case that these always went to Congress? No whistleblower in the

00:07:04.480 history of whistleblowers. No whistleblower has ever been held back from Congress. Okay.

00:07:12.680 The IG report talks about how this guy, the attorney, the investigator general had to look at it and say,

00:07:23.440 well, this guy, he's, he doesn't have any firsthand knowledge. So no, I'm not going to give this to

00:07:28.760 Congress. That's Donald Trump trying to stop this investigation. I want you to listen to what it

00:07:37.660 used to say up until this whistleblower.

00:07:42.660 It says firsthand information required. Now, this is the form that if you have, if you're a whistleblower,

00:07:54.580 you have to fill out. And on page eight, it said firsthand information required. Here's the

00:08:04.000 explanation. In order to find an urgent concern credible, the ICIG must be in possession of reliable

00:08:14.520 firsthand information. The ICIG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA based on an employee's

00:08:24.700 secondhand knowledge of wrongdoing. This information in this information includes any

00:08:32.420 information received from another person, such as when a fellow employee informs you that he or she

00:08:39.040 witnessed some sort of wrongdoing. Anyone with firsthand knowledge of the allegations may file a

00:08:46.100 disclosure in writing directly with the ICIG. Similarly, speculation about the existence of wrongdoing does

00:08:56.420 not provide sufficient legal basis to meet the statutory requirements of the ICWPA. If you think that

00:09:06.420 wrongdoing took place, but can provide nothing more than secondhand or unsubstantiated assertions

00:09:13.640 or assertions, the ICIG will not be able to process the complaint or information for submission

00:09:21.980 as an ICWPA. Could it be more clear? You cannot do this. Why? Well, we know why, because we have now an

00:09:34.320 impeachment hearing based on a guy who said the president said at least eight times, the president made a

00:09:42.620 promise. He said that he was going to withhold things unless the transcript was held in a super

00:09:56.700 secret vault because they never do that. And there was nothing classified in this. So why did they do it?

00:10:04.060 He's hiding something. All of those assertions have been wrong. All of them. Why? Because

00:10:12.420 this isn't the guy's job. This guy is not in line here. He heard other people talk about it.

00:10:20.280 So it's nothing to do with his job. The reason why the intelligence community doesn't listen to

00:10:26.980 whispers is because how many times in your life have whispers about you been right?

00:10:33.620 Our intelligence community requires people who are not dealing in rumors. Imagine we go to war

00:10:45.220 because there's rumor of things and no one has firsthand knowledge. Oh, I know. You know,

00:10:51.500 it's weird. Kind of like when we went into Iraq saying that there were chemical weapons and weapons of

00:10:57.900 mass destruction. What was the left screaming for? They were screaming for evidence.

00:11:05.260 And we considerably more evidence on that than we do in this. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, when you don't

00:11:10.700 when you're talking about secondhand information like this, maybe that's good enough for a tweet.

00:11:15.260 It's good enough for a whistleblower report. I don't think so. And one of the things that some on the

00:11:20.320 right are saying is we need to know who this person is. We need to interview them. We need to know what

00:11:24.260 they know. That's putting him in danger. The president might kill him. Right. Yeah, they are.

00:11:28.360 Well, by the way, that's that was reported by, I think, 60 minutes that they that the whistleblower

00:11:32.760 is getting death threats. And that's why they're under witness protection. Seems like the whistleblower's

00:11:37.780 own attorney is disagreeing with that and calling out 60 minutes on that leak. But beyond all that,

00:11:45.520 what is the value of talking to this person? Well, because he's just reporting secondhand information.

00:11:52.600 No, no, no, no, no. Listen, in the in the report, his own report, he says, I have received

00:12:00.840 information from multiple U.S. government officials. He also says officials have informed me. Officials

00:12:07.920 with direct knowledge of the call informed me. The White House officials who told me this

00:12:13.140 information. I was told by White House officials, the officials I spoke with. I was told that a State

00:12:20.160 Department official I learned from multiple U.S. officials. One White House official described

00:12:26.680 this act based on multiple readouts of these meetings recounted to me. You're not even seeing

00:12:32.940 them. I also learned from multiple U.S. officials. The U.S. officials characterized this meeting.

00:12:39.180 Multiple U.S. officials told me I learned from U.S. officials. I also learned from a U.S. official.

00:12:43.700 Several U.S. officials told me I heard from multiple U.S. officials and multiple U.S. officials

00:12:48.580 told me. So he only says that I don't know anything myself. Right. So is it digging for

00:12:55.320 the sources? Is that the value of talking to this person? I know there's no reason to talk

00:12:58.920 to this person. There's no reason to listen to this person. The only reason why we know this

00:13:04.680 story is because and if you want talk about deep state, then the intelligence community should

00:13:11.820 stop doing these things. If you don't want people thinking there's a deep state, then the intelligence

00:13:17.380 community should stop in the cover of night sometime in August of 2019. That's just about a month

00:13:25.960 and a half ago. Sometime in August, they changed the whistleblower requirements. Now, I just read

00:13:35.920 that paragraph to you about how you cannot be giving secondhand. Now, it just says, question

00:13:43.540 three, I know about the information I'm disclosing here and you check the box. I have direct and

00:13:50.720 personal knowledge or I heard about it from others. Why would you change that? Why would you

00:13:58.580 change that? Unless you're just trying to get rumors out, which is weird because that's what the

00:14:06.820 Democrats did with the Russia file. And everybody said, we've got to impeach him right away. And then

00:14:14.340 there was an investigation. And what turned out? Nothing. This is the same story over and over and over

00:14:22.400 again. And somebody needs to pay a price. The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:14:36.960 Hey, it's Glenn and you're listening to the Glenn Beck program. If you like what you're hearing on

00:14:41.100 this show, make sure you check out Pat Gray Unleashed. It's available wherever you download

00:14:46.460 your favorite podcasts. Give me the strength to listen to about 35 seconds of Hillary Clinton

00:14:53.020 this weekend on Sunday morning CBS. Listen, I believe he knows he's an illegitimate president.

00:15:00.980 He knows. He knows that there were a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out

00:15:08.620 the way it did. And I take responsibility for those parts of it that I should. But Jane,

00:15:13.100 it was like applying for a job and getting 66 million letters of recommendation and losing to

00:15:20.360 a corrupt human tornado. And so I know that he knows that this wasn't on the level. I don't know

00:15:27.760 that we'll ever know everything that happened, but clearly we know a lot and are learning more every

00:15:32.380 day and history will probably sort it all out. So of course he's obsessed with me. And I believe

00:15:38.420 that it's a guilty conscience in so much as he has a conscience. He doesn't think of you, Hillary.

00:15:44.800 He doesn't. When he obsesses over the election, it's not about Hillary Clinton. It's about the

00:15:50.060 corruption of the Democrats and the way they played. He's not. Hillary, you were the worst candidate 0.98

00:15:58.460 in my lifetime and maybe in several Beck generations. I mean, my shoe could have beaten you.

00:16:09.840 There's no mystery here.

00:16:11.720 Yeah, that's why you lost.

00:16:13.320 That's why she lost. She's horrible.

00:16:15.480 She was horrible.

00:16:16.560 Further than I've heard her go, though. She's saying the election was not legitimate.

00:16:20.140 Remember the big complaint before the election was that Donald Trump was going to say it wasn't

00:16:23.940 legitimate?

00:16:24.440 Yes.

00:16:24.700 Do you remember this?

00:16:25.520 Yes.

00:16:25.820 Do you remember how they spent, the press spent weeks talking about what a scary thing it

00:16:30.220 was that one of the major presidential candidates would say, dare say, that if they lost, the

00:16:34.860 other side cheated.

00:16:37.340 Yeah.

00:16:37.600 Right?

00:16:37.980 Yeah.

00:16:38.180 Here, that's what she's saying. She's saying, we don't know how, but we think he cheated.

00:16:41.280 That's not how you could accuse someone of a major crime.

00:16:43.340 What was the deal with the media? They're claiming that the birth certificate stuff claimed that he

00:16:48.320 was an illegitimate president. Well, yeah, that's exactly what it was. And you had a problem

00:16:53.200 with it. And that's why we didn't report on it. I mean, we, we did our homework on it and

00:16:57.540 we found it to be a valid birth certificate. But those people who kept going with the, the

00:17:03.900 non-valid birth certificate, look, it could have been changed. I bet it was CIA that changed

00:17:08.220 it. Good. They're doing the same thing. This is just their birth certificate thing. But

00:17:15.760 here's the, here's the problem with the birth certificate. The president could have done,

00:17:21.640 he could have solved that right away. He could have released that thing right away, but it

00:17:26.980 helped Obama. It helped him because it made anybody who was opposed to him, they could

00:17:33.460 throw him into birther categories where I wasn't a birther. You weren't a birther, but

00:17:38.740 we were birthers.

00:17:39.980 Right. It was, it was a handy way to demean his enemies.

00:17:42.800 Correct. Okay. So that's why they kept that thing going for as long as they did. Now, what

00:17:49.240 are they doing here with the birth certificate? It was Obama's prerogative to release that

00:17:55.460 certificate whenever he wanted. Okay. He held it back. This is not only a false claim. This

00:18:04.060 is what they did. This is what they did. Oh, he was, he was involved in Russia. Let me give

00:18:11.280 you some new information now on the Ukraine scandal with the, with the DNC. We're doing

00:18:18.900 a special with blaze TV and the, the episodes begin tonight. Tonight, we're talking to you

00:18:27.300 about what you need to know, what your questions are. Cause I want to make sure that on Thursday,

00:18:32.920 this special hits everything that it needs to hit on Tuesday, we're going into, uh, Biden

00:18:40.440 and Ukraine on Wednesday, Biden and China. Then on Thursday, we'll do a special behind

00:18:48.020 the scenes at five o'clock and then Thursday night at eight 30, uh, central time, nine 30

00:18:55.400 Eastern. We're going to do a special Ukraine, the Democrats, Russia. Now, why are we calling 0.86

00:19:03.720 it the Democrats, Russia? When John Solomon was doing his research on the, uh, Russian collusion

00:19:15.600 story, what about a year and a half ago, he had gone over to the Ukraine because some of the

00:19:22.740 information was coming from the Ukraine. And so when he's looking at it, he was asking for

00:19:30.240 the Ukrainians to help. Did it come from you? Where was it? Were the Democrats involved? So

00:19:36.540 he was satisfied that Donald Trump was not involved with Russia and that he had not colluded with

00:19:43.900 Russia to get dirt on, uh, Hillary Clinton. The last thing that this source in Ukraine said

00:19:52.580 to John Solomon was when John said, okay, so there's really nothing to see here. The guy

00:20:01.160 looked at him and said, shook his head and said, you don't get it. Ukraine is the Democrats, 0.85

00:20:08.920 Russia. Everything that they said Donald Trump was doing, they were doing in Russia. And the evidence

00:20:17.640 is a little overwhelming at this point. Imagine what could happen and the evidence you could

00:20:26.360 get if you're looking for it. Let me give you a couple of things. First, uh, Chris Murphy in, uh, from

00:20:38.400 Connecticut. He's a Democrat from Connecticut. He called or went over to, uh, Zelensky and he wanted to make

00:20:46.360 sure that the Ukrainian, the new Ukrainian president knew exactly what the deal was. Now he spoke to him

00:20:55.020 in, I believe, August. I don't have the date in front of me while choosing his words carefully.

00:21:02.220 This is from John Solomon. Murphy made clear by his own account that Ukraine currently enjoyed

00:21:09.020 bipartisan support for us aid, but that could be jeopardized. If the new president acquiesced to

00:21:15.380 request by president Trump to investigate past corruption allegation involving Americans, including

00:21:22.060 Joe Biden. What is that? Can somebody help me on that? What is that? Did he not just threaten aid?

00:21:31.360 Murphy boasted after the meeting that he told the new Ukrainian leader that the U S aid was his

00:21:40.360 country's most important asset, and it would be viewed as election meddling and disastrous for

00:21:46.980 long-term U S Ukrainian relations to bend to the wishes of Donald Trump quote. I told Zelensky that he

00:21:54.540 should not insert himself or his government into American politics. I cautioned him that complying with the

00:22:00.820 demands of the president's campaign representatives to investigate a political rival of the president

00:22:05.800 would gravely damage U S Ukrainian relationship. There are a few things Republicans and Democrats agree

00:22:11.860 on in Washington these days, and support for the Ukraine is one of them. So here's his message.

00:22:20.240 Investigate the Ukraine dealings with Joe Biden and his son, and you're not going to get any aid.

00:22:26.380 Now that's current. So they just did exactly what they accused the president of doing,

00:22:36.460 but the president was looking for something else. So you have to understand he is not obsessed with

00:22:44.380 Hillary Clinton. She's a loser and he knows it. And he doesn't spend any time thinking about people.

00:22:51.240 He thinks are losers. What he is thinking about is, and she did it for a reason. He's an illegitimate

00:23:00.720 president. She knows that will bother him at night. It will bother him in everything he does. He,

00:23:09.800 that will stick to him and he will make mistakes because he will be so preoccupied with,

00:23:17.480 they're saying I'm a little illegitimate president. I'm not an illegitimate president.

00:23:22.580 So they're trying, she's specifically chose those words because she's trying to get underneath his

00:23:29.560 skin and it will work. Now I want to give you a couple of other things of what Donald Trump is

00:23:40.480 actually looking for. He's not obsessed with Clinton. He's obsessed with the DNC's investigation

00:23:52.060 into the Russia thing. He's obsessed with that because it didn't happen. And, and how is, how,

00:24:01.660 how did this, how did this happen? He believes he was set up. Now I'm going to give you some clear cut

00:24:09.220 evidence that that is true. This is this on top of the Biden thing. The Biden thing is what

00:24:16.900 everybody's concentrating on. That's not what you should focus on. And I'll give you some of that

00:24:22.560 evidence. As early as January, 2016, the Obama white house unexpectedly invited Ukraine's top

00:24:31.000 prosecutors to Washington to discuss fighting corruption in the economy. The meeting promised

00:24:37.640 justice training turned out to be more of a pretext for the Obama administration to pressure Ukraine's

00:24:43.880 prosecutors to drop an investigation into the, into the Burisma Holdings gas company that employed

00:24:51.220 Hunter Biden and to look for new evidence in a then dormant criminal case against eventual Trump

00:24:58.040 campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, a GOP lobbyist. So this is 2016. The Obama administration

00:25:05.860 brings the prosecutors over and says, Hey, we, we got to train, we got to work together.

00:25:11.640 And Oh, by the way, you guys got to stop on that thing. U S to fish, U S officials quoting

00:25:18.240 kept talking about how important it was that all of our anti-corruption efforts be united.

00:25:25.100 Now, this is not like a whistleblower. That's saying this who has secondhand knowledge.

00:25:29.980 This is the former political officer in the Ukrainian embassy in Washington who organized

00:25:35.920 and attended the meetings.

00:25:40.440 Nazar Kolodensky, Ukraine's chief anti-corruption officer, also on the record said soon after he

00:25:50.240 returned from the Washington meeting, he saw evidence in Ukraine of political meddling in

00:25:55.580 the U S election. The two top Ukrainian officials that released secret evidence to the American

00:26:01.900 media smearing Paul Manafort. That's what they were asking for in 2016. The Obama white house 0.52

00:26:08.760 here in the United States in Washington, when they got back to officials smeared Manafort and released

00:26:17.120 information. Now, what's interesting about this is Manafort had a partner. Manafort

00:26:25.100 had somebody else doing exactly the same thing, except on the Democratic side. And that name is Tony

00:26:34.240 Podesta. And if you remember the day Manafort was arrested, Tony Podesta closed his business, a very

00:26:44.340 successful Washington lobbyist group. He closed it and retired. Now, why do you think and why isn't Tony

00:26:54.620 Podesta been asked about anything? Why hasn't there been any records released from Ukraine on Tony

00:27:00.020 Podesta? The release of the evidence forced Manafort to step down as Trump's top campaign advisor.

00:27:09.760 Now, so you know, this just isn't two sources that are saying this. A Ukrainian court concluded last

00:27:18.620 December that the release of the evidence amounted to an unlawful intervention in the U S election by

00:27:27.760 the Kiev government. You have that? This is more than a whistleblower. This is the courts in the Ukraine

00:27:39.440 saying that two members of the government were engaged in unlawful intervention in the U S election.

00:27:48.580 Who was that benefiting? That was benefiting Hillary Clinton, who asked them to do it. It was the Obama

00:27:56.940 administration. Shortly after the Ukrainian prosecutors returned from their Washington meeting,

00:28:04.140 a new round of democratic pressure was then exerted on Ukraine, this time via the embassy in Washington.

00:28:14.640 Valerity Chaly, I don't know how to pronounce the first name. He's the Ukrainian ambassador to the

00:28:19.900 United States confirmed in a statement issued by his office that in March, 2016, a contractor for the

00:28:29.440 Democratic national committee pressed his embassy to try to find any Russian dirt on Trump and Manafort

00:28:36.880 that might reside in Ukraine's intelligence files. The DNC contractor also asked the ambassador's team

00:28:45.040 to try to persuade Ukraine's president Petro Poroshenko to make a statement disparaging Manafort

00:28:52.860 when the Ukrainian leader visited the United States during the 2016 election.

00:28:57.400 The ambassador said his embassy rebuffed both requests because it recognized they were improper efforts

00:29:04.400 to get a foreign government to try to influence the election against Trump and for Hillary Clinton.

00:29:12.880 It's easy to see everything that the Democrats accused Donald Trump of doing with Russia,

00:29:20.840 they themselves were doing in Ukraine. This is without a government investigation.

00:29:31.080 This is just good reporting.

00:29:35.360 Nellie Orr, the wife of senior U.S. Justice Department official Bruce Orr, who we know played a role,

00:29:42.800 worked in 2016 as a contractor for Fusion GPS, the same Hillary Clinton-funded opposition firm

00:29:50.020 that hired Christopher Steele, the British spy who wrote the now-debunked dossier linking Trump to Russia.

00:29:56.440 Okay, so Nellie Orr was the one who was giving the Fusion GPS stuff into the

00:30:04.800 into the federal government through her husband, and that got to the Justice Department, the FBI.

00:30:16.220 They started an investigation, then they leaked it to the press, blah, blah, blah.

00:30:20.140 She has now testified to Congress that some of the dirt she found on Trump during her 2016 election opposition research

00:30:28.240 came from a Ukrainian parliamentary member.

00:30:32.540 She also said she eventually took the information to the FBI through her husband,

00:30:36.900 another way Ukraine got inserted into the election.

00:30:40.560 So, pressure, opposition research, all part of the Democrats' playbook on Ukraine

00:30:46.880 long before Trump ever called Zelensky this summer.

00:30:50.700 And, as I pointed out in the article here with John Solomon,

00:30:57.800 Chris Murphy from Connecticut is still using that political pressure

00:31:02.520 to influence elections in the United States through Ukraine.

00:31:09.040 This is much, much bigger than Joe Biden.

00:31:12.900 It is, that is a big part, but honestly, a minor role on why you should care.

00:31:22.000 This is the Democratic National Committee using another intelligence service

00:31:30.460 to influence our elections.

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00:32:18.000 Michael Rechtenwald is somebody I met, I don't know, about six months ago.

00:32:24.240 And I didn't know what to think of the guy.

00:32:26.760 He's somebody who was teaching at NYU.

00:32:30.600 He had been at the center of deconstruction, I think, and teaching and helping further the ideas of socialism or communism.

00:32:45.880 But they were all in theory.

00:32:47.500 And when he started seeing people actually do it, he's like, oh, no, wait, this leads to massive death.

00:32:53.460 Don't do it.

00:32:54.300 And he's really had his eyes opened to the left and now is speaking out and a strong voice.

00:33:01.900 Welcome to the program, Michael Rechtenwald.

00:33:04.800 Hi, Glenn.

00:33:05.600 Thanks for having me.

00:33:06.320 Good morning.

00:33:06.860 Hey, I want to congratulations on your book.

00:33:09.320 It's called Google Arpelago, the Digital Gulag, and the Simulation of Freedom.

00:33:15.400 I want to start there, Michael.

00:33:16.540 What do you mean by the simulation of freedom?

00:33:19.200 Well, you know how the Internet gives us the sense that we can go anywhere, do anything, learn anything, and have unlimited roaming capacities.

00:33:28.240 You know, that's been the promise of the Internet since its inception.

00:33:33.760 Well, it's a simulated freedom that is not really freedom because we're being trammeled, we're being controlled.

00:33:42.260 Our searches are being basically diverted by Google and other entities, but especially Google for searches.

00:33:51.980 So, in effect, we don't have the unlimited freedom that we think.

00:33:57.360 We're actually being controlled to a great extent by virtue of the algorithms that Google has instituted.

00:34:04.740 If everybody, if you're by a computer right now, go to google.com and just type in, in your search box, just the letter A.

00:34:14.460 Stu, you doing it?

00:34:15.560 What comes up first?

00:34:17.300 Amazon.

00:34:18.260 Amazon.

00:34:18.920 Do you know why Amazon is coming up first?

00:34:20.700 You would think, because, well, everybody's searching for Amazon.

00:34:23.520 What are you searching for Amazon for?

00:34:25.680 How about just going to amazon.com?

00:34:27.560 Why go to google.com to find amazon.com, right?

00:34:33.200 Okay.

00:34:33.520 Why is it coming up first?

00:34:35.820 Because it's their biggest financial partner is Amazon.

00:34:40.680 Right.

00:34:41.320 And so, whether you're being manipulated because of financial reasons that you don't understand,

00:34:46.360 or for political or social reasons, you are being manipulated.

00:34:52.200 Indeed.

00:34:52.680 So, Michael, you talk about new knowledge.

00:34:59.140 And before we get into that with capital letters, there is new knowledge going around, and it is, you know, that there is no difference, you know, that men can have babies.

00:35:11.320 That's new knowledge.

00:35:14.220 Show how we're being manipulated on that.

00:35:18.440 Well, I mean, if you type, for example, you just talked about a Google search.

00:35:21.520 If you type in men can, just type in men can. 0.95

00:35:25.020 Do that now.

00:35:25.440 You'll see the amazing results that you'll get.

00:35:29.340 What Google is attempting to do in their world view is really all demonstrated almost instantly by virtue of this search.

00:35:40.240 Show me what it says.

00:35:41.700 It says, this has been exposed.

00:35:43.320 You don't have it?

00:35:44.740 Do you have it?

00:35:45.260 Men can.

00:35:46.060 Let's see.

00:35:47.660 It sure says men can have periods is the number one. 0.99

00:35:51.160 Okay.

00:35:52.520 Yeah.

00:35:52.960 Men can have babies. 0.63

00:35:54.580 Men can have babies now. 1.00

00:35:56.460 Men can think about nothing. 0.97

00:35:57.660 Men can get pregnant. 1.00

00:35:59.340 Okay.

00:35:59.880 Now, go search for women can, right? 1.00

00:36:04.080 There's a space in there, by the way.

00:36:04.540 What's that?

00:36:05.000 Yeah, you have to have a space.

00:36:05.940 Now, search for women can. 1.00

00:36:07.940 Women can. 1.00

00:36:08.640 So, Michael, tell me the significance of what he just found with men can.

00:36:13.400 Well, I mean, so one of the things that Google is about is that they are trying to break down what I call social ontology,

00:36:21.300 and that is, you know, the basic structure or infrastructure of our social order.

00:36:25.840 You know, men and women, for example, are the basic constituents of a family, you know, for a reproductive family.

00:36:34.880 Well, they don't want the family to exist.

00:36:39.040 One of the major arguments of this book is that Google is a leftist authoritarian outfit, and they are trying to abolish the family,

00:36:48.420 and that is one of the main constituents that stands between corporate state power and the individual.

00:36:54.180 That's a real statement to make that they're trying to abolish the family.

00:36:58.900 Why would they want to do that?

00:37:00.980 Because it suits their interests.

00:37:02.660 Their interests are to have no mitigating force between them and the state or the corporate state, as it were,

00:37:12.740 because they are really state actors, as I've shown in the book.

00:37:16.540 All right, now search for women can. 1.00

00:37:20.980 Do you have that still?

00:37:22.980 Yes, women can gives you, women can do it. 1.00

00:37:27.540 Women can vote. 1.00

00:37:28.720 Women can do anything. 1.00

00:37:30.280 Women can fly, which if true, I'm going to the airlines right away and trying to oppose that. 1.00

00:37:35.180 And then women can be drafted is the last one. 1.00

00:37:37.680 But the first four are very positive.

00:37:40.540 Women can fly. 1.00

00:37:41.640 What person is searching for women can fly? 1.00

00:37:45.720 Right.

00:37:46.140 Nobody's searching for that.

00:37:48.740 Now, you talk, and this is something also that our podcast just from over the weekend with Robert Epstein,

00:37:57.760 he was saying that it's not necessarily the search results.

00:38:03.380 It's the drop-down box that makes a huge impact before the search results even get there.

00:38:09.440 Can you explain that?

00:38:10.220 Yeah, it's the algorithms are actually determining what pre-search results that you're going to get.

00:38:17.780 In other words, they're leading you into certain results by virtue of suggesting,

00:38:23.640 filling in the blanks of what you are searching for,

00:38:26.500 and giving you the answer for what you're searching for before you even complete the search.

00:38:31.280 And this has a great deal.

00:38:32.460 People often just drop down on the box.

00:38:35.140 Instead of completing their search by typing,

00:38:37.480 they prefer to let the algorithm fill it in for them.

00:38:40.680 The algorithm fills it in and diverts them into the channel that Google would have you go in.

00:38:46.120 But if you're not searching for women can fly, 1.00

00:38:49.460 is the concept that they're just showing you all positives about women? 0.59

00:38:53.980 Absolutely.

00:38:54.900 Okay.

00:38:55.120 Yes, they have this thing called algorithmic unfairness.

00:39:00.260 Okay?

00:39:01.060 Now, that's their definition of what they mean by algorithmic unfairness is unfairness in the world.

00:39:08.760 They're not talking about their algorithms being unfair.

00:39:11.540 They're saying that there is an unfairness built into the reality,

00:39:15.300 and that they attempt purposefully to change that unfairness by virtue of altering the results that they give you for your searches

00:39:27.000 to reflect the way the world should be rather than the way it actually is.

00:39:33.040 But, Michael, yeah, because your conclusion, new knowledge or does the real exist,

00:39:42.180 nothing in the men's drop-down box, men can have periods, men can have babies, you know, 0.80

00:39:49.480 those aren't true.

00:39:51.620 That's not right.

00:39:52.460 They're not true, but they want them to be true.

00:39:56.800 They want these things to be true because they are trying to disestablish our stable social ontologies.

00:40:04.420 They are attempting to eradicate any barriers that stand between corporate state power and the individual.

00:40:12.820 Okay, so...

00:40:13.440 The family is the main one.

00:40:14.640 I mean, Karl Marx in 1848 with Engel, in the Communist Manifesto,

00:40:21.880 one of the ten points in the platform was to abolish the family.

00:40:25.620 This goes back hundreds of years now.

00:40:28.460 And there is no question that Google has interest in the abolition of the social ontologies that lead to the family.

00:40:36.360 So...

00:40:36.880 Because there are policies inside the company that make it very apparent,

00:40:40.720 and there are algorithmic biases, you know, that are facing outward to the public that make it very apparent.

00:40:50.620 You talk about new knowledge, and we've talked about new knowledge being, you know,

00:40:56.100 women can fly and men can have periods. 0.98

00:40:59.220 But new knowledge is capitalized, capital N, capital K.

00:41:04.560 What is new knowledge?

00:41:05.700 There is a company called newknowledge.com that bills themselves as a disinformation agent,

00:41:14.560 as the leading disinformation agent on the West.

00:41:18.580 Now, as we've seen with the affair that's going on in terms of the Ukraine issue,

00:41:24.920 anytime they're saying one thing, it's really the opposite.

00:41:28.980 New knowledge claimed to be the main source for uncovering the Russian bots that were colluding to help Donald Trump win the 2016 election.

00:41:41.160 Well, after they submitted their report to the Senate Intelligence Committee,

00:41:47.260 they then went on in the 2017 election to stimulate Russian bots themselves to support the candidacy of Roy Moore

00:41:59.480 in order to make it look like the Russians were behind his candidacy.

00:42:04.400 So they create reality.

00:42:06.320 Then they spread this news, quote-unquote news, to the news outlets saying that this was happening.

00:42:12.460 They were producing the reality that they were having reporters report on.

00:42:18.580 This is what's going on.

00:42:20.140 This is what new knowledge is.

00:42:21.520 It's the creation of a simulated reality.

00:42:24.520 And then the reporting on it by news outlets.

00:42:28.640 This is unbelievable, Michael.

00:42:31.540 I was at a friend's house on Saturday.

00:42:34.760 And they, I walk in and they said, Alexa, living room lights.

00:42:43.280 And I said, dear God, don't tell me, no, you don't have Alexa all throughout everything in your life.

00:42:51.040 Yeah, we love it.

00:42:53.160 I said, do you have Nest too?

00:42:55.440 Yeah, we love it.

00:42:57.320 And I said, uh-huh, that's great.

00:42:59.720 And I tried to talk to him about, you've got to stop that.

00:43:03.640 Don't.

00:43:04.140 Don't feed that any more information.

00:43:07.040 Can you explain to the person who says, but I love this.

00:43:11.440 I don't have anything to hide.

00:43:12.920 As he said, Glenn, if they're coming for me, they're out of everybody else.

00:43:19.160 Right.

00:43:19.800 There's a couple things to say about that.

00:43:22.180 First of all, Alexa has been shown to be a biased virtual assistant. 0.57

00:43:28.500 It is collecting information that leads you to certain conclusions that they want you to draw.

00:43:33.940 So the information is already tilted.

00:43:36.260 They're basing, Alexa is based on tilted algorithms, just like Google search engines.

00:43:42.220 Secondly, Alexa is recording your conversations.

00:43:46.820 And with the development of HARPA, the Health Advanced Research Project Agency,

00:43:53.780 which is an analog of DARPA, is to be an analog of DARPA.

00:43:59.060 This data will be collected, collated, and sent to a central database

00:44:03.940 in order to be interpreted to decide upon certain things about your life.

00:44:08.800 For example, whether you can own a gun.

00:44:12.120 And it's not just Alexa.

00:44:13.720 It's Google Home.

00:44:15.080 It's the Google Watch.

00:44:16.480 And it's your television, if it's a certain brand.

00:44:18.720 And I won't mention it.

00:44:19.940 No, mention it.

00:44:21.040 Go ahead and mention it.

00:44:22.660 It's Samsung.

00:44:23.520 Samsung televisions have been shown to be recording conversations.

00:44:29.460 And soon it could be a refrigerator.

00:44:31.600 If the Internet of Things becomes what it's vaunted to be,

00:44:36.700 that is, any appliance in your home, any appliance, I'm talking a washing machine,

00:44:42.580 I'm talking a hair dryer, a microwave, I'm looking around my apartment here,

00:44:50.220 a refrigerator, blender, television, radio, anything that plugs in and has a chip.

00:44:57.560 Right.

00:44:58.900 Anything that could be chippified.

00:45:01.480 Then we'll be in this new Internet of Things, which is IoT, as they call it,

00:45:06.340 the smartification of everything.

00:45:08.160 The smartification of everything is basically the circumvention of what it is.

00:45:15.840 It's the surrounding of yourself with intelligent machinery, which is, in effect,

00:45:22.320 a way to fence yourself in, to be surveilled upon, to have all the data in your home recorded

00:45:29.760 and sent to central agencies, to have it collated, et cetera, et cetera.

00:45:33.760 It's a very, very scary proposition.

00:45:35.660 So in the book, I say – I'm sorry.

00:45:38.460 No, go ahead.

00:45:39.060 In the book.

00:45:40.160 In the book, in Google Archipelago, I say that soon everything that's happening outside of the home

00:45:46.820 will be recorded and tracked and traced, and much of what goes on inside of the home as well,

00:45:52.820 thanks to this Internet of Things, the smartification of everything.

00:45:57.880 Google Archipelago is the name of the book with Michael Rechtenwald.

00:46:01.300 More in just a second.

00:46:02.500 Let me just say this.

00:46:03.520 A lot of Germans said at first, no, it's just like the Boy Scouts.

00:46:07.220 It's just like the Boy Scouts.

00:46:09.200 The Hitler Youth, yes, it's about Hitler and stuff, but they do a lot of good things,

00:46:13.380 and my kids get out and they get fresh air and everything else.

00:46:16.340 Well, eventually those kids were taught to report on their parents.

00:46:20.740 You don't need the kids to do it.

00:46:22.340 Now your Blender will do it.

00:46:24.560 Your TV.

00:46:26.080 Google is doing it.

00:46:28.000 Nest is doing it.

00:46:29.600 The Blaze Radio Network.

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The Glenn Beck Program - September 30, 2019

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