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00:02:36.080 So Donald Trump signed this week the no-man-in-women sports executive order, 0.92

00:02:40.620 and J.K. Rowling just posted a picture of him holding up the executive order surrounded by the girls.

00:02:47.580 And J.K. Rowling wrote,

00:02:49.180 Congratulations to every single person on the left who's been campaigning to destroy women

00:02:53.340 and girls' rights.

00:02:54.140 Without you, there'd be no images like this.

00:02:57.660 And I think that's kind of a dig at Donald Trump, because she's not a fan of Donald Trump.

00:03:02.760 But she's like, you know, thanks to you, now Donald Trump is, like, doing the right thing

00:03:09.260 and the common sense thing.

00:03:10.840 I think that's what she's saying.

00:03:12.220 Is that the way you read that?

00:03:13.040 That's how I interpret it, yeah.

00:03:14.540 Because she's pretty liberal. 1.00

00:03:15.600 So, yeah, she just hates how stupid the left has become on the women's issue. 1.00

00:03:21.480 And she's a woman who promotes witchcraft. 1.00

00:03:24.080 I mean, how do you lose her?

00:03:26.660 Right.

00:03:26.940 She said,

00:03:28.880 This is why you care about a tiny fraction of the population.

00:03:33.300 Gender ideology has undermined freedom of speech, scientific truth, gay rights, women and girls' safety, privacy, and dignity.

00:03:40.300 It's caused irreparable physical damage to vulnerable kids.

00:03:43.780 Nobody voted for it.

00:03:44.920 The vast majority of people disagree with it.

00:03:46.840 Yet it has been imposed top down by politicians, healthcare bodies, academia, sections of the media, celebrities, and even the police.

00:03:54.720 Its activists have threatened and enacted violence on those who dared oppose it.

00:03:59.420 The actual victims in this mess have been women and children.

00:04:02.480 This movement has impacted society in disastrous ways.

00:04:06.080 And if you had any sense, you'd quietly be deleting every trace of activist mantras, ad hominem attacks, false equivalents, and circular arguments from your ex-feeds.

00:04:16.500 Because the day is fast approaching when you'll want to pretend you always saw through the craziness and never believed it for a second.

00:04:25.360 That is a powerful statement.

00:04:27.900 Powerful statement from J.K. Rowling.

00:04:30.200 And it's true. 0.56

00:04:30.960 I read a story in The Atlantic this morning that is hysterical.

00:04:36.000 Pat, when you think of Nova Scotia, what do you think?

00:04:39.180 What do you think of?

00:04:40.560 Clubbing baby seals.

00:04:42.660 Okay.

00:04:42.920 So that's my vacation activity.

00:04:47.480 Right.

00:04:47.800 Because I go to Nova Scotia or Newfoundland to club baby seals.

00:04:50.740 Yeah.

00:04:51.140 On a regular basis.

00:04:52.220 All right.

00:04:52.620 Yeah.

00:04:52.940 All right.

00:04:53.200 Not exactly what I was looking for.

00:04:55.200 No?

00:04:55.420 But I think you're in the same family.

00:04:58.860 I immediately think cold.

00:05:00.940 Okay.

00:05:01.480 Yes, it is ice.

00:05:03.000 Cold.

00:05:03.580 Yes.

00:05:03.960 Yes.

00:05:04.140 Okay.

00:05:04.300 That's why the baby seals are there.

00:05:05.680 You have to club.

00:05:06.200 Anyway, so, and you have to be on ice when you do it because then you get to see the blood

00:05:12.160 stains on the ice.

00:05:13.040 Exactly.

00:05:14.340 So I'm reading The Atlantic and there's a story about the people who actually moved

00:05:19.800 to Canada because of Donald Trump.

00:05:21.840 Because of the cheese.

00:05:23.080 Oh, my gosh.

00:05:24.360 And it's so funny.

00:05:26.060 It is so funny. 1.00

00:05:27.300 These people are so stupid. 1.00

00:05:28.860 One lady was like, you know, I moved up to Nova Scotia. 1.00

00:05:32.160 She's from California.

00:05:33.180 I moved up to Nova Scotia.

00:05:35.220 I just didn't realize how cold it would be.

00:05:40.560 Wow, you did your homework.

00:05:42.420 Wow.

00:05:42.520 Oh, my gosh.

00:05:44.660 That's literally the first thing I think of when I think of Nova Scotia.

00:05:48.000 I think it's like, oh, it's cold.

00:05:49.860 It's cold.

00:05:50.180 And my wife would not be happy there. 0.72

00:05:52.520 No matter if they could have the great Jesus could appear on earth.

00:05:56.340 But if he's in Nova Scotia, my wife is like, it's too cold.

00:06:00.100 I'm not going.

00:06:03.060 Okay.

00:06:03.480 So now on the gender stuff, the NCAA has backed down now.

00:06:08.960 They've changed the transgender athletic policy.

00:06:13.440 And they said, you know, look, you can't compete unless you were assigned that sex at birth.

00:06:21.340 Oh, you were assigned that.

00:06:24.240 Oh, my gosh.

00:06:25.080 From now on, women's only sports will be only for women. 1.00

00:06:30.240 And they said the, quote, President Trump's order provides a clear national standard.

00:06:36.080 So now they're getting out of it.

00:06:38.380 Now, why are they doing that, Pat?

00:06:40.380 Why is the NCAA getting out of this?

00:06:44.280 I think because that's the way the flow is going.

00:06:51.500 No.

00:06:53.060 Money.

00:06:54.580 Money.

00:06:55.920 Government money for the NCAA.

00:06:59.380 They'll lose.

00:07:00.660 Their colleges will lose government.

00:07:03.180 It's all about the money.

00:07:04.660 Okay.

00:07:04.840 So they don't really care.

00:07:05.900 And you know that because of the other two that are not getting government money, which I find amazing.

00:07:16.820 Major League Baseball, the values on diversity remain unchanged.

00:07:22.140 Oh, that is great.

00:07:25.440 Oh, I love the commissioner of Major League Baseball.

00:07:28.300 Well, you know, our values on diversity remain unchanged, but another value that's pretty important to us is, well, we always try to comply with what the law is.

00:07:41.760 That's a value that you always try?

00:07:44.820 Try.

00:07:45.200 They try.

00:07:45.920 To obey the law.

00:07:46.860 You try.

00:07:47.460 You can't always succeed, but we're trying.

00:07:49.820 Yeah, we've tried.

00:07:51.260 I mean, clearly you have to rule not guilty.

00:07:55.540 We were trying not to break the law.

00:07:59.360 That's not a value, man.

00:08:01.400 Not breaking the law.

00:08:02.680 That's not a value.

00:08:03.760 If it is, that's something like you say when you're in prison, you're like, you know what? 0.65

00:08:08.160 When I get out, damn it, I'm going to try not to break the law this time. 0.89

00:08:12.840 Okay. 0.99

00:08:13.600 Good.

00:08:14.180 Good for you.

00:08:14.680 Now, the other one that is a little disappointing is the NFL.

00:08:20.480 They're continuing their diversity initiatives, all the DEI stuff, including forcing interviews with minority candidates, and the NFL says, we're just doing the right thing. 1.00

00:08:32.000 We're doing the right thing.

00:08:33.260 Are you?

00:08:33.860 Can you get any more diverse than the NFL already is?

00:08:38.300 You're 75% black in the NFL.

00:08:41.040 Well, I mean, your diversity initiative would probably be to get more white people in the NFL, wouldn't it?

00:08:49.680 Isn't that your diversity?

00:08:51.760 I don't see any transgender players.

00:08:54.020 No, that's true.

00:08:55.060 They're, yeah.

00:08:55.900 I don't see any.

00:08:57.380 Yeah.

00:08:58.720 I don't see any.

00:08:59.740 Not a lot of women either. 1.00

00:09:01.560 And notice, not a lot of women. 1.00

00:09:03.260 No.

00:09:03.460 Not a lot of women. 1.00

00:09:03.980 And I think that is, I mean, it's only fair when it's fair.

00:09:07.880 And, you know, the other thing that really kind of bothers me about the NFL is, notice, you know, you say, can't you get more diverse?

00:09:17.060 Well, not in the front office and not with the quarterbacks.

00:09:19.400 Look how many white quarterbacks there are. 1.00

00:09:20.980 Where are all the black quarterbacks?

00:09:23.360 Have you turned on the NFL on Sunday lately?

00:09:27.360 There might be three white quarterbacks. 1.00

00:09:29.880 I mean, you know, gosh, what a group of dopes. 1.00

00:09:38.180 What a group of dopes. 0.98

00:09:40.080 By the way, did you see, do we have the Carl's Jr. ad? 0.97

00:09:46.400 Okay, we got to play this.

00:09:48.020 New ad for the Super Bowl this weekend.

00:09:52.140 Or is it Carl's Jr.?

00:09:55.480 Let's be real.

00:09:56.460 Everyone's going to be a hot mess after the big game.

00:09:58.520 Been there.

00:10:01.440 Done that.

00:10:02.460 And I've got just what you need to cure that post-party bug.

00:10:05.720 The Carl's Jr. hangover burger.

00:10:07.240 Egg, double bacon.

00:10:08.540 Yeah, you need that double bacon. 0.65

00:10:10.360 Char-boiled beef, hash rounds, cheese, and sauce.

00:10:12.900 Just the way I like it.

00:10:24.860 And guess what?

00:10:25.800 It's free.

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00:10:38.860 Men are back.

00:10:40.580 Yeah, you haven't seen an ad like that for a while.

00:10:47.940 No, two years ago, Stu and I were on the air talking about the Carl's Jr. ad and saying how far we have come from, you know, in advertising, how that stuff just, you could not put the Carl's Jr. ad on two years ago.

00:11:06.220 No way.

00:11:07.220 No, and that's what we were talking about. 0.88

00:11:09.120 And here we are, two years later, Donald Trump wins and Carl's Jr. has the, yeah, I'm going to say it, CNN, the big balls to play it.

00:11:16.240 Good, good, good, good, congratulations.

00:11:21.140 Common sense is coming back just a little bit.

00:11:25.100 But, let's see.

00:11:28.560 Oh, Samantha Power is out at USAID.

00:11:31.560 Oh, don't say that.

00:11:32.680 Don't say that.

00:11:33.520 Yeah, that's.

00:11:34.280 Oh, no.

00:11:34.900 We lost her.

00:11:36.000 We lost her.

00:11:36.520 We lost her.

00:11:37.380 Too soon.

00:11:37.620 She's one of the, like, 9,700 employees that have lost their gig.

00:11:43.740 Yeah.

00:11:44.260 Yeah.

00:11:45.040 She's one of them.

00:11:46.020 She's going to have to live on that teacher's salary. 1.00

00:11:48.100 Her husband, Cass Sunstein.

00:11:49.540 No.

00:11:50.260 You know, at Harvard.

00:11:51.560 Yeah, they're going to have to try to make ends meet.

00:11:53.400 Heartbreaking.

00:11:53.620 It is heartbreaking.

00:11:55.200 She said it was jarring.

00:11:56.860 Very jarring.

00:11:57.660 Here she is.

00:11:58.220 Cut four.

00:11:58.680 Well, you can imagine when you suddenly in your inbox find a termination notice or a leave of absence notice that you didn't expect to get on a flawed predicate that you're doing radical leftist insubordination.

00:12:17.000 That's a flawed predicate.

00:12:17.880 It's pretty jarring.

00:12:18.400 And because there's so many lies and falsehoods circulating and so many claims that people are sort of not with the program, I think people are just completely dislocated.

00:12:30.440 There's no stable ground on which to walk.

00:12:33.700 You're right.

00:12:34.100 And then, of course, most of them have been laid off, so they're worried about how they're going to pay the bills and how they're going to make rent.

00:12:39.780 Oh, no.

00:12:40.500 No.

00:12:40.900 Man.

00:12:41.740 Don't say that.

00:12:42.580 Yeah.

00:12:43.420 Sweetheart.

00:12:44.040 That just hurts.

00:12:45.780 That just hurts.

00:12:47.080 She was caught completely off guard, just out of the blue, Donald Trump.

00:12:54.820 I could see where on November 4th she might not have had any inkling, but November 5th, about 10 o'clock at night, you should have had a pretty good idea of what was about to happen.

00:13:08.960 You might have been saying, I think I should send out a resume.

00:13:12.680 Yeah.

00:13:12.940 I don't think he's going to keep me on.

00:13:16.140 Wow.

00:13:17.080 You know, that is crazy.

00:13:20.120 And look at what she's saying.

00:13:22.260 All the lies, all the misinformation.

00:13:25.360 Again, phone lines are wide open.

00:13:28.840 I'll take anybody, anybody that can defend what USAID was doing, what they were spending their money on.

00:13:38.160 Go ahead.

00:13:39.060 Call me now.

00:13:40.000 I'll give you, I'll give it, I will duct tape my mouth shut for you to try to make a case to the American people that these programs that we have exposed over the last five days were in our national interest.

00:13:57.020 Go ahead, call me.

00:13:58.440 And what do you bet?

00:13:59.060 888-727-BEZK.

00:14:00.940 She wouldn't, Samantha Powers wouldn't even come on the show to explain.

00:14:05.020 No, of course not.

00:14:05.780 To tell you what the lies are and what the information is that we're getting and we're spreading.

00:14:11.200 No.

00:14:11.400 Tell me, where's the mistake here?

00:14:13.940 Okay, other than the fact that you were funding Politico to the extent where when you got shut down, it messed up their payroll.

00:14:24.200 Other than that, where are the lies?

00:14:27.160 Where is the misinformation?

00:14:29.620 What do we have wrong here?

00:14:30.880 Are you saying you didn't do any of these expenditures in these other countries for transgender plays and programs and to make LGBTQ people feel better about themselves?

00:14:41.680 Yeah.

00:14:42.440 Well, you know, where's the argument?

00:14:45.660 Well, let me have CNN.

00:14:47.000 I said that I was going to, I threatened this.

00:14:50.600 But here's CNN.

00:14:51.480 They've uncovered something horrible about these people on the right.

00:14:55.800 Cut three.

00:14:56.820 So this is a 19-year-old high school graduate who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls online.

00:15:04.380 So that would be one way that we could refer to him.

00:15:06.540 He is now working at Musk's behest inside Doge.

00:15:10.600 And we looked into his background.

00:15:13.060 And so we found, you know, several notable things, Aaron.

00:15:16.440 One of which is that this individual has founded multiple companies, including one with another unfortunate name, Tesla.Sexy LLC, which he established in 2021.

00:15:28.340 He would have been around 16 years old.

00:15:29.260 That is unfortunate.

00:15:30.060 Now, this LLC controls dozens of web domains.

00:15:32.800 I'm curious, though, Cara, how well does even Musk know these young men, do you think?

00:15:37.840 I have no idea.

00:15:38.960 I think there is no vetting whatsoever, as you can see, that's taking place.

00:15:41.840 It took Katie and the really great team.

00:15:43.640 Wired has done an astonishing job here.

00:15:45.340 Astonishing.

00:15:45.900 That was astonishing information.

00:15:47.660 You know, I could make a joke. 0.97

00:15:47.760 It's probably why he was hired for all this ridiculous nonsense and other nefarious things. 0.93

00:15:52.460 But, you know, there's an expression in technology. 0.95

00:15:54.600 And other nefarious things.

00:15:56.000 It's not a feature.

00:15:57.720 If they had other nefarious things, they would have led with that and not.

00:16:01.880 He calls himself online Big Balls and started a company with this unfortunate name, Tesla.Sexy.

00:16:12.460 Oh, my gosh. 0.50

00:16:13.640 Oh, my gosh.

00:16:14.300 Next, we'll be airing Carl's Jr.'s ads on the Super Bowl with women in them that are actually born women. 0.99

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00:17:49.520 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:17:53.100 I am so excited to talk to this guy because I saw a movie last week or the week before,

00:17:59.140 and I kind of saw it against my will.

00:18:00.980 I got to be honest with you.

00:18:02.280 My wife was like, oh, let's go see this movie. 1.00

00:18:04.320 It looks really good.

00:18:05.120 And there was that, the other movie that I just saw last week, which was the Wahlberg movie and the plane, you know.

00:18:13.560 Anyway, I'm glad I saw this one first.

00:18:16.240 My wife was right again.

00:18:17.620 But anyway, I went and I saw Brave the Dark.

00:18:20.440 And the reason why I kind of was like, I don't know, it's because, you know, it just looked like a feel-good movie.

00:18:27.100 And I am still so Pavlov with the reaction on, oh, it's a movie made with values.

00:18:38.320 And you're like, okay, it's going to be preachy.

00:18:40.280 And this is so good.

00:18:42.640 So good.

00:18:43.780 I can't recommend this movie highly enough.

00:18:47.000 It's called Brave the Dark.

00:18:49.440 And one of my favorite actors is in it, Jared Harris.

00:18:55.520 He was in Chernobyl.

00:18:57.200 He played Queen Elizabeth's husband in The Crown.

00:19:00.900 He was in Sherlock Holmes.

00:19:02.300 He's really, really great.

00:19:04.040 And this is a great job of acting on his part and the guy who also played the lead role of Nathaniel Dean.

00:19:16.660 Now, the real Nathaniel Dean was the producer.

00:19:20.860 And he's on the phone with me now.

00:19:22.500 And I want to be really careful because I don't want to tell the whole story because part of the brilliance of this movie is you don't know how it's going to end.

00:19:32.580 You don't know the full story.

00:19:34.380 So, Nathaniel, let's be careful on how we tell the story.

00:19:38.540 Thank you for coming on.

00:19:40.920 I appreciate you having me on, Glenn.

00:19:42.980 I'm excited to share this movie and this story and the incredible impact I think it's going to have on audiences.

00:19:49.640 Oh, my gosh.

00:19:50.320 And the fact that it's true, not based on a true story, but it's true.

00:19:55.580 This is your life.

00:19:57.020 What an amazing turnaround on you as an individual and the impact that this has had for so many years on so many people.

00:20:10.140 Talk to me a little bit about the guy who is – you took his name and now your father.

00:20:17.660 You were given up for adoption.

00:20:20.960 You grew up in an orphanage.

00:20:25.200 And, you know, by the time you were in high school, you were living in your car, right?

00:20:32.580 Yeah.

00:20:33.380 I had a pretty rough childhood filled with probably some of the worst childhood trauma that a child can experience.

00:20:42.440 And so I grew up angry.

00:20:44.740 I grew up very distrusting of adults.

00:20:48.060 Went through the foster care system, too.

00:20:50.260 And kind of at 16, I decided to run away.

00:20:53.640 And sadly, no one came looking for me.

00:20:55.720 And ended up living in my car on the streets of a small town in New Holland, Pennsylvania.

00:21:02.680 So can we – can you tell – I just said given up for adoption because I don't know how to address this without giving anything away.

00:21:11.020 Do you want to go into that a little bit of what do we know at the beginning of the movie?

00:21:18.680 Yeah.

00:21:19.340 I mean, you know that something very horrible happens to my mother.

00:21:23.300 And I'm a witness to it.

00:21:28.040 That's all I want to give away on that.

00:21:30.300 Yeah, okay, good.

00:21:30.680 But there's so much more.

00:21:31.820 There's so much more that happens that you don't find out until the end.

00:21:37.440 Right.

00:21:37.980 And can I ask you just without giving anything away, is that part of the movie true?

00:21:43.500 Is that really how it happened?

00:21:46.500 To be honest with you, it actually happened a lot worse than what we portray.

00:21:50.220 Oh, my gosh.

00:21:50.740 We actually had to soften it quite a bit.

00:21:54.320 I think it was too much for people to take.

00:21:56.920 I mean, I'm surprised I'm even talking to you today, surviving what you went through.

00:22:07.120 And so you're living in your car, and the teachers – everybody thinks you're not a good kid,

00:22:15.900 and you fall in with the wrong crowd, and you do knock over, I don't know, a stereo store or something at the time.

00:22:24.360 And now you're in juvie and away from school.

00:22:30.240 But one teacher takes notice.

00:22:33.700 Tell me about this.

00:22:34.480 Yeah, so I – just to explain quickly, I still wanted to go to school, and so I lied to my teachers, my coaches, my girlfriends, my friends.

00:22:44.600 They all just thought I was living at my uncle's house or somewhere else.

00:22:48.380 But I basically ran track in the morning so I could get a shower every day.

00:22:53.520 And that's how I was able to go to school because I wanted to go because I was on the track team and it was very good.

00:22:59.820 And one day I hadn't eaten for three days, and I was really, really hungry.

00:23:03.980 And I walked into this classroom of the teacher.

00:23:06.340 His name was Mr. Dean.

00:23:07.460 And he offers me something.

00:23:12.540 I guess I can give it away.

00:23:14.560 Yeah, you can.

00:23:15.920 Yeah, he offers me a candy bar because that's all he had.

00:23:19.080 He had a giant Hershey's candy bar.

00:23:21.380 But he was going to eat later that day.

00:23:22.980 Did he know you were – hadn't eaten in three days?

00:23:27.440 Because in the movie, he didn't know.

00:23:30.660 No, he didn't know.

00:23:31.580 But he saw me trying to get some money and shake the candy machine to get something to fall out.

00:23:37.460 Plus, I was really skinny.

00:23:38.860 I was super skinny.

00:23:40.300 And we try to portray that a couple times in the film as, you know, Nate takes his shirt off, he's in the shower, and you see how skinny this kid is.

00:23:48.860 And, yeah, so he offers me this candy bar.

00:23:52.920 And can I tell you, it was the best candy bar I ever ate.

00:23:56.380 It was so good.

00:23:57.720 And that was that small planting of the seed of hope in my life.

00:24:02.680 You know, I didn't know it at the time.

00:24:04.320 But, really, that was when I kind of knew, like, all right, this guy gave me something.

00:24:10.220 He didn't want anything in return, you know.

00:24:13.800 But, sadly, I ended up in juvian a couple of days after that.

00:24:19.040 And why did he get involved?

00:24:22.140 I think he saw – Stan loved the underdog.

00:24:26.440 Stan loved the kid that sat in the back row and didn't talk, that the other teachers may not have paid attention to, called the bad kid.

00:24:33.600 He just gravitated towards those that were hurting.

00:24:37.660 And he could see that.

00:24:38.780 He had empathy for people.

00:24:40.260 He saw me in that classroom sitting in the back, not talking, not participating.

00:24:46.140 And he so badly wanted me to participate.

00:24:49.880 And I think, you know, he loses his mother not too long before this.

00:24:55.400 And so, there's a void in his life.

00:24:59.820 And I think it was just timing, too.

00:25:01.980 I think it was like, he's in my classroom.

00:25:05.740 We kind of bonded in the classroom, which I had never had with a teacher before.

00:25:11.020 Because every morning he said, you know, hey, good morning, Nate.

00:25:15.940 And when he graded my papers, when I probably deserved a D or an F, he would give me a C and say, hey, keep trying.

00:25:22.420 Keep trying.

00:25:23.400 And so, I saw that there was something.

00:25:25.280 And I think he saw that there was something in me.

00:25:27.080 And then for him to come to the jail cell and to say, hey, I want to help you.

00:25:35.980 Like, you need help.

00:25:37.060 I'm here to help you.

00:25:38.460 And that was probably one of the most incredible days of my life, really.

00:25:42.260 You know, as I'm watching the movie, and I'm sorry if you're listening to us.

00:25:46.240 I'm so sorry that I'm being cryptic on all of this.

00:25:48.840 But I just, this is such a good movie, and I don't want to wreck the experience.

00:25:54.360 Because the way I experienced it, it just all unfolds in front of you.

00:25:57.740 Don't read anything about this movie.

00:25:59.300 Just go see it.

00:26:00.840 And so, I'm sorry that you're not going to get the full experience of this.

00:26:05.800 You come back and listen to this podcast after you've seen the movie.

00:26:08.800 But I was so afraid.

00:26:11.020 As I was watching him in the teacher's lounge, and he was saying, this is a good kid.

00:26:17.860 You know, aren't we supposed to?

00:26:19.400 And all the teachers were turning on you.

00:26:23.060 I thought to myself, God help me, which one of the teachers would I be?

00:26:30.740 It would be so easy to be not him, you know?

00:26:35.840 And I wondered why he was like that.

00:26:43.040 I mean, was it just the way he was?

00:26:46.280 Was it he was actually living his faith?

00:26:50.020 Or what was it about him that made him?

00:26:55.080 Go ahead.

00:26:58.120 No, sorry.

00:26:58.860 Stan was a man of faith.

00:27:02.140 And, you know, he always believed in helping others.

00:27:06.580 And he got that from his mom.

00:27:07.920 His mom was such an incredible woman.

00:27:09.520 And she doted on him as a child.

00:27:13.500 She told him all the time that she loved him, that she was proud of him.

00:27:17.580 She heard all of the things that I think a child should hear growing up, even the discipline parts.

00:27:24.040 Very giving, very unconditional love.

00:27:27.080 Like, that was who he was.

00:27:29.120 He wasn't just that way towards me.

00:27:31.780 He loved his students.

00:27:33.320 He loved teaching.

00:27:34.320 He loved teaching so much that he didn't even get married because he knew that that would take away from teaching and directing plays, you know, at the school.

00:27:45.240 So he was just very – that's just who he was.

00:27:48.980 He was such a man of integrity and a man of faith and a man who lived, you know, the way I think we're supposed to live, helping others.

00:27:58.640 And he never wanted anything in return, and that's why he's the hero of the story, and I'm absolutely okay with that.

00:28:06.560 Can I ask you – I wrote a book years ago called The Christmas Sweater, and it was about my childhood.

00:28:13.960 I didn't have your childhood, but my mom committed suicide when I was young, and I spiraled out of control.

00:28:19.580 And, you know, and so I write a book, and it was a fictionalized – it wasn't the true story.

00:28:26.800 It was based on it, you know what I mean?

00:28:28.780 But I fictionalized some of it.

00:28:31.880 I don't think you fictionalized much of this, and I know when – I went on tour, and I did a one-man play called The Christmas Sweater.

00:28:40.500 I played all the roles, and it was the hardest thing I've ever done because I had to relive some of my worst things that I had ever done.

00:28:52.720 And when I'm seeing you betray him, in a way, towards the end, what was that like to relive for you?

00:29:02.800 Yeah, that was really hard.

00:29:07.820 It's actually the hardest moment of the film isn't some of the hard childhood stuff.

00:29:12.100 It's when I make a decision that really sets the movie forward in a very fast-paced, high-energy, like, oh, my word, what's about to happen?

00:29:25.660 You know, he – but he didn't give up on me.

00:29:28.260 That's what's amazing.

00:29:29.400 I kept making bad choices.

00:29:30.820 It didn't mean that he had to give in to me, but I pushed his buttons as much as I could because I wanted to know if he cared for me.

00:29:40.640 But, again, I made bad decisions one after another, and he just kept reminding me of who I was, that I could make better decisions.

00:29:47.980 And I think that's hard for people.

00:29:49.320 I think people just get frustrated with people very quickly and can leave a child behind very, very quickly.

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00:30:02.620 Yesterday, I made the statement on the air several times and several times today that no one, no one can, in their right mind, defend the things that USAID was spending money on.

00:30:16.660 Some of these cuts – I mean, first of all, I'd like the defense of USAID that is a CIA operative that has overthrown government after government after government.

00:30:28.420 They've overthrown the Ukrainian government twice in the last 20 years.

00:30:33.760 You know, you want your tax dollars going for shadow ops from the CIA that are not run by the president or have any oversight whatsoever.

00:30:46.020 Also, can you defend $1.5 million in rebuilding the Cuban media ecosystem?

00:30:55.100 $1.3 million from USAID for Arab and Jewish photographers.

00:31:01.260 $2.9 million to teach Sri Lankan journalists how to avoid binary gender language.

00:31:08.780 $4.5 million to stop disinformation in Khakistan.

00:31:13.760 $2.1 million to the BBC to teach them the value of diversity in Libyan society.

00:31:25.100 Now, there is one brave gentleman who can defend these things and tell us, you know, why we should, you know, stop paying attention to it, I guess.

00:31:36.620 His name is Brian, to his credit.

00:31:38.800 He was on a few minutes ago.

00:31:40.100 He, hopefully, will stop with the name-calling and everything else and just get to the facts because I would like to have a real understanding of somebody who says they can defend USAID and the way this spending has been going.

00:31:57.280 Brian, you have the floor, sir.

00:31:59.840 Hi, my name is Brian Bennett.

00:32:01.780 I'm calling from Bittersweet Farm in Hewleton, New York.

00:32:05.160 My wife and I have farmed together for over 40 years.

00:32:09.480 I've seen a tremendous amount of graft and corruption in our government over those decades and more.

00:32:16.320 The reason for my call is to attempt to defend the spending of money on things that I think are of value.

00:32:25.600 Specifically, there was a quote that said something to the fact that do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

00:32:36.840 Helping the least amongst us is not a horrible idea.

00:32:41.240 I believe that mercy and compassion have a tremendous value long-term.

00:32:47.880 I'm not too keen on this idea of short-term pain, suffering, and deprivation and cruelty.

00:32:55.700 So, as a taxpayer, if I have the opportunity to have the first Trump administration spend $83 million with JBS, that's Jose, Bautista, Sabino, and Sons out of Brazil,

00:33:09.980 or to spend the figures you just listed, $1.9 million, $1.3 million, in assisting in some other nation,

00:33:18.040 my taxpayer dollars are better spent on assisting gay men in Africa, like you said before.

00:33:25.700 It's better spent on birth control, reproductive rights, women's rights. 0.63

00:33:33.680 It's better spent on a lot of the things that USAID spends their money on,

00:33:39.500 as opposed to spending the same amount or more money with Brazil, a BRICS nation, correct,

00:33:48.620 and Spain, which is not a BRICS nation.

00:33:51.960 The money should be spent on investing in the future.

00:33:56.280 The future is only going to be a future if it has humans and humanity.

00:34:03.400 The more dangerous weapons we produce, the more money we spend on other things other than mercy and compassion,

00:34:12.380 the more we're feeding into the end times, the more we're feeding into the violence,

00:34:20.340 the more we're feeding into the pain, suffering, and deprivation of billions of people.

00:34:28.240 I believe the money spent at USAID has alleviated some pain, suffering, and deprivation.

00:34:34.640 I don't believe the money given by the Biden administration to Elon Musk or given to JBS by Donald Trump

00:34:42.660 is in any way, shape, or form alleviating pain, suffering, and deprivation for anyone who's already not a billionaire.

00:34:50.740 So taxpayer dollars, if they're going to go to a billionaire or go to an impoverished country,

00:34:55.540 send my taxpayer dollars to an impoverished country.

00:35:00.020 I'm not talking about CIA overthrows, FBI overthrows.

00:35:03.180 We've known of that type of problem since well before 1776.

00:35:10.500 We've seen it.

00:35:11.480 We don't need to continue it.

00:35:13.200 You want to eliminate spending?

00:35:14.800 Let's target the military-industrial complex.

00:35:18.140 Let's target the agricultural-industrial complex, the pharmaceutical-industrial complex.

00:35:22.520 Let's not target those people who sometimes you say you want to win the hearts and minds of,

00:35:28.880 because you're not winning my heart or mind.

00:35:31.240 Thank you.

00:35:33.640 Well, thank you, Brian.

00:35:34.980 I appreciate that.

00:35:36.140 That's not the question I asked, because I agree with you with JBS.

00:35:41.300 JBS, the meat industry, the meatpacking companies, it's a mafia.

00:35:46.580 It's an absolute mafia. 0.86

00:35:47.760 It's a gang of thugs, and it needs to be broken up.

00:35:52.960 So I'm not defending spending to JBS.

00:35:56.140 I'm not aware of it, but I can look it up, and I would probably join you on that fight,

00:36:00.180 because I'm a rancher myself.

00:36:02.340 I live in a town of about 400 people that are all farmers.

00:36:05.900 I know what it's like to work hard, and I know what they're going through.

00:36:09.880 And big pharmaceutical, big agriculture is destroying our health and our ability to feed

00:36:18.100 ourselves.

00:36:19.580 So I'm with you on that.

00:36:21.840 That wasn't the question.

00:36:23.200 The question is not, would you rather spend it on this or that?

00:36:28.240 I think we could all agree there are things that we think would be really good to spend

00:36:33.400 it on, and I'm with you on compassion.

00:36:37.220 I'm not with you on government compassion.

00:36:39.860 If you want to have a real intellectual conversation about that, we can.

00:36:43.880 About 40 cents of your dollar goes, if it goes to government, about 40 cents, if that, goes

00:36:50.420 to the actual need, where if you are in a charity and you're under 80 cents a dollar, you don't

00:36:57.480 get money anymore because people won't, you're required to show where that money is going.

00:37:04.940 And if you're spending it on limousines and everything else, you're not going to get money.

00:37:09.200 You're going to get a really bad rating.

00:37:10.880 The government would have an F rating on charity.

00:37:14.260 So we can talk about that, but that's not, again, the question I asked.

00:37:19.080 I asked you to defend, not compare, to defend all of these things.

00:37:26.740 You say we've known about the CIA overthrowing.

00:37:30.580 Yes, we have.

00:37:31.620 But the Church Commission was supposed to stop that.

00:37:36.260 And USAID, for 10 years, as I have been exposing them overturning in the Middle East, overturning

00:37:43.060 in Ukraine, overturning in Europe, overturning governments in South America, and spending

00:37:51.960 money to overturn our government in a color revolution, as I've been saying that, everyone

00:37:57.520 has said that's a conspiracy.

00:37:59.800 That's not what USAID does.

00:38:01.920 That is exactly what they do.

00:38:04.040 And if you are comfortable with paying the BBC to somehow or another teach them the value

00:38:14.860 of diversity in Libyan society, if you are truly okay with teaching Sri Lankan journalists

00:38:23.620 to avoid binary gender language, I'd like to hear your defense of that.

00:38:29.620 What you said about compassion is accurate.

00:38:33.100 We're talking about government corruption in a fashion being exposed like we've never

00:38:40.520 seen before.

00:38:42.220 And you and I both know, Brian, this is just the beginning of it.

00:38:46.620 And I, for one, as a taxpayer, want every effing Republican and Democrat and Independent that

00:38:55.800 has been using this as a system, as a cash drawer for themselves, their friends, or their

00:39:03.220 petty little interests, I want it to stop.

00:39:07.000 And I'd like all of them to go to jail if they broke a law.

00:39:11.280 Do you have a response now on the actual question that I wanted an answer for?

00:39:17.040 I'll do the best I can, then, because I agree with you that every problem that has been

00:39:24.120 created by the United States government needs to be resolved.

00:39:30.100 What I believe is, yes, I would rather spend, was it $1.9 billion, $1.9 million?

00:39:36.620 We already went through this.

00:39:38.180 We already went through this.

00:39:39.520 Please do not compare.

00:39:41.220 We could do that all day.

00:39:42.560 That's not the question.

00:39:44.180 If you want to talk about those items, defend them.

00:39:48.820 Yes.

00:39:49.460 Sending the money to any of those programs is an investment in the future and winning the

00:39:53.660 hearts and minds.

00:39:54.760 The corrupt money that is going along the way.

00:39:56.900 Tell me, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:39:59.120 Tell me what you know about Sri Lankan journalists and their use of binary gender language.

00:40:06.020 Can you tell me about that and what this program is actually trying to accomplish?

00:40:10.920 No, I cannot.

00:40:12.580 Okay.

00:40:13.760 Okay.

00:40:14.440 So you're just giving it a pass, and I want to know why.

00:40:18.960 Why are you just giving it a pass?

00:40:21.380 The reason I'm giving it a pass is because I believe it to be that type of aid is an

00:40:26.600 investment in the future of life on this planet, okay?

00:40:30.680 The corrupt part, the people that steal the money along the way, real problem.

00:40:35.420 Yeah.

00:40:36.340 Right.

00:40:36.900 Okay.

00:40:37.800 Well, you keep saying that you believe in investing in life on the planet.

00:40:43.540 I just want you to know, scientifically, if you start to deny there's a difference between

00:40:51.000 men and women, and you are promoting sex with women and women and men and men, you are going 0.96

00:40:59.080 to hurt the future of mankind because you won't have babies. 0.97

00:41:07.260 Wow.

00:41:07.860 Boy, that's insightful.

00:41:08.900 That is enlightening, Glenn.

00:41:10.440 I was not aware of that.

00:41:11.220 I know.

00:41:11.240 You're a farmer.

00:41:12.120 You're a farmer.

00:41:12.940 I would think that you would know that. 0.99

00:41:14.380 When you buy a bull, if your bull was just having sex with another bull, would you sell 0.98

00:41:20.300 that bull, or would you say, for diversity's sake, I want to keep feeding that bull?

00:41:26.920 I would say, for diversity's sake, I'd keep feeding that bull, and I'd put other cows in 1.00

00:41:30.860 with the bull because my bulls have sex with bulls, and my bulls have sex with cows. 1.00

00:41:35.860 That's what I witnessed this morning. 0.99

00:41:37.260 What I'm asking is, if one of your bulls were like, I'm only going to have sex, and Brian, 0.99

00:41:44.020 I want you to respect the fact that I'm only having sex with bulls. 0.99

00:41:48.680 You could put me around women and cows, but I'm not interested in them. 1.00

00:41:53.580 Why are you being so hateful?

00:41:56.000 Why would you sell me?

00:41:58.160 Why won't you just keep me alive?

00:42:01.280 Yeah, why would you?

00:42:02.820 Why wouldn't I keep...

00:42:03.780 Why would you?

00:42:05.480 Yeah, why wouldn't you?

00:42:08.260 Why would you, Brian?

00:42:09.940 Why would you?

00:42:10.480 I do.

00:42:11.020 I do have bulls.

00:42:11.360 You're telling me, as a businessman, we're not talking about human beings here, we're

00:42:15.200 talking about business.

00:42:16.920 You, as a businessman, you'd make that decision.

00:42:21.600 No, not as a businessman.

00:42:23.140 I'm not a businessman.

00:42:24.140 Oh.

00:42:24.660 I'm a farmer.

00:42:25.640 You're a farmer.

00:42:26.980 Right.

00:42:27.880 Yes, I know.

00:42:28.820 But you, to produce food, you have to make money.

00:42:32.900 No, you don't really have.

00:42:33.120 And I know in my...

00:42:35.000 Oh, you don't?

00:42:35.820 No, what you...

00:42:37.000 Think about this for a minute, Glenn.

00:42:38.540 You don't have to make all sorts of money beyond your expenses.

00:42:43.660 That's making money, right?

00:42:44.860 Right.

00:42:45.280 But if I'm keeping bulls that are not having sex and producing more cattle, then I'm losing

00:42:51.880 money.

00:42:52.400 And I know how razor thin it is.

00:42:56.820 As a rancher, I'll have a good year, and I'll have three bad years in a row.

00:43:01.000 And if I didn't have another job, I wouldn't be able to keep my ranch.

00:43:05.740 So I'm making sure I'm as efficient...

00:43:09.840 Oh, is it another ballgame?

00:43:11.580 Yeah.

00:43:11.860 I mean, if you want to talk about food and food prices and the agricultural subsidies,

00:43:15.960 if you want to talk about keeping a bull...

00:43:18.300 No, no, because I'm...

00:43:19.460 No.

00:43:19.860 That's fine.

00:43:20.040 Yeah, I just want you to know...

00:43:22.680 Go ahead.

00:43:24.580 Go ahead.

00:43:24.900 The reason that food is being produced is to feed people.

00:43:29.520 Uh-huh.

00:43:30.280 That's the reason...

00:43:31.020 Yes.

00:43:31.580 Think it through.

00:43:32.540 And the reason...

00:43:33.740 I know.

00:43:34.740 I know.

00:43:35.740 And that is great.

00:43:36.860 And if we lived in a communist country, the country would support you, and there would

00:43:41.840 be no death, and everybody would be eating.

00:43:44.040 Communism and socialism...

00:43:44.620 What you have...

00:43:45.340 Forget it.

00:43:46.660 What you have to do to feed people is actually make money so you can buy seed and fertilizer

00:43:53.080 and everything else so you can produce more food.

00:43:56.020 It is the way the world works, Brian.

00:43:59.940 I agree.

00:44:00.420 And also, humankind works by procreation.

00:44:05.760 And so, I'm only bringing this up because that was such a big deal in your argument.

00:44:10.560 You brought it up three or four times about you care about the future of humanity.

00:44:16.400 Well, you can't make that point as hard as you have and also deny that there is a difference

00:44:25.040 between a man and a woman.

00:44:26.720 Brian, I thank you for the conversation.

00:44:28.140 Na-na-na-na.

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