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00:02:35.640 So Fannie Willis admitted yesterday a lot of things.

00:02:39.520 You know, her attorneys were trying to keep her from testifying. 0.99

00:02:44.380 And they were in the middle of making the case.

00:02:46.480 And she just walked up there like a strong, proud black woman.

00:02:50.420 And she stood there and she's like, I'm coming to testify.

00:02:54.680 And she did.

00:02:56.520 And nobody could keep her from stopping talking.

00:03:01.300 You know, the one thing that you learn, if you've ever had to do anything like this, is don't volunteer any information.

00:03:08.560 Answer the question and that's it.

00:03:12.080 Yeah, but no, I should explain.

00:03:13.460 No, don't.

00:03:14.780 You'll open up too many cans of worms.

00:03:16.860 Don't.

00:03:17.940 Right.

00:03:18.200 Your job is not to be entertaining.

00:03:19.840 Your job is not to fill in the holes in the story.

00:03:22.760 Your job is to give as little as information as possible while answering the question.

00:03:27.060 That is your job in that situation.

00:03:28.780 She took her job more as I was trying out to be the next host at MSNBC. 1.00

00:03:33.900 Oh, that's exactly what she was doing yesterday. 0.52

00:03:37.680 Here she is on the witness stand when questioned about cash that she used to reimburse Nathan Wade.

00:03:46.500 Listen to this.

00:03:47.180 I always have cash at the house.

00:03:49.460 That has been, I don't know, all my life.

00:03:53.480 If you're a woman and you go on a date with a man, you better have $200 in your pocket. 1.00

00:03:57.100 So if that man acts up, you can go where you want to go.

00:04:00.000 So I keep cash in my house.

00:04:01.880 And I don't keep cash as good in my purse like I used to.

00:04:05.800 I don't go on many dates.

00:04:07.460 But when you go on a date, you should have cash in your pocket.

00:04:11.020 So my question was, where did that cash originally come from if it didn't come out of the bank?

00:04:15.320 Cash is fungible.

00:04:17.460 It's fungible.

00:04:18.060 I've had cash for years in my house.

00:04:19.940 So for me to tell you the source of when it comes from, when you go to Publix and you buy something, you get $50, you throw it in there.

00:04:26.460 It's been my whole life.

00:04:28.380 When I took out a large amount of money on my first campaign, I kept some of the cash of that.

00:04:33.040 Like, to tell you, I just have cash in my house.

00:04:36.920 I don't have as much today as I would normally have.

00:04:40.340 But I'm building back up now.

00:04:42.360 So you just put money in.

00:04:43.400 It's a very good practice.

00:04:44.340 I would advise it to all women.

00:04:47.480 So in other words, so in other words, she used to have tens of thousands of dollars of cash. 0.97

00:04:53.700 And she got that cash by building up, by going into the grocery store and buying her groceries.

00:05:01.700 Wait, you would have to pay with cash to get change back.

00:05:07.200 So she would take $100 out, and she'd get $50 back in change, and that's how she built up the cash. 0.99

00:05:17.520 Now, also, I don't do this anymore.

00:05:21.140 I mean, I spent it all.

00:05:23.900 Wait, you spent most of it?

00:05:26.140 I'm building it back up.

00:05:27.420 So we don't – there's nobody that can testify or we can't ask you how much cash do you have now.

00:05:33.820 Because if you had $40,000 in cash, I mean, usually that's – I mean, that's something that I would think that maybe, you know, you could have that amount of cash.

00:05:46.500 But isn't that something like the bank notifies and goes, I think they've got a lot of cash?

00:05:51.360 But she admits that it's from her first campaign, which I believe the cash from your campaign is pretty tightly regulated.

00:06:03.260 And, you know, I don't – you imagine if anybody – if I'm running, I'm like, yeah, I just keep all those campaign contributions in my house.

00:06:09.540 Now, I will say, again, we would never get the benefit of any defense if the situation was reversed.

00:06:18.960 But to be fair to her, hearing the way that –

00:06:21.220 I hate this show.

00:06:21.600 I know.

00:06:22.020 I know it sucks.

00:06:22.640 I hate this show because of that.

00:06:23.240 I know it sucks.

00:06:23.860 We try to be fair.

00:06:24.860 We never get it in return.

00:06:26.600 I will be fair to her on this one point, which is she, at another point in this testimony, did talk about taking out $50,000 for her campaign of her own money.

00:06:39.720 So it was not – it was not like she was saying, I took donations and then kept them in cash at my house.

00:06:46.260 She was talking about a large amount of cash she took out to pay for her own campaign. 0.88

00:06:50.260 And I think she's trying to refer to what was left over.

00:06:54.380 Now, she did also say she was almost broke after that campaign.

00:06:58.740 So not a lot of – would be left over, I would think, if you're describing yourself as broke to an author.

00:07:04.360 Especially if you're adding to that pile by taking from that pile to get change.

00:07:10.420 Right.

00:07:10.980 Well, and that's the thing, Glenn.

00:07:12.200 Like, if you get into a conversation, let's say, with the IRS.

00:07:15.700 Like, let's say they have a tax issue with you.

00:07:17.660 They don't take a, well, look, cash is fungible.

00:07:21.200 I don't know where it came from.

00:07:22.800 Like, that's – you don't get to answer that way.

00:07:25.700 The only people I've ever – the only people I've ever heard say that are drug lords.

00:07:32.260 You know, I've never heard that before.

00:07:35.440 In fact, I've heard the opposite.

00:07:36.980 If you do have cash, make sure you have a receipt with that cash so you know exactly where that cash came from.

00:07:46.220 Yeah.

00:07:46.680 I've always heard that.

00:07:47.920 Right.

00:07:48.680 Like, the cash part of this is so unbelievable.

00:07:52.000 I mean, look, do some people have cash?

00:07:54.240 Yeah, some people have cash.

00:07:55.680 Some people pay for things with cash.

00:07:57.740 I mean, like, that's not completely out of the realm of possibility.

00:08:01.880 What is out of the realm of possibility is taking this, you know, these large gobs of cash and paying for exactly half of trips that you're going on with your boyfriend.

00:08:11.760 Like, that is just – like, it's just not – that is not realistic.

00:08:15.800 This did not occur.

00:08:17.800 You know, it's just not the type of thing that goes on,

00:08:20.880 especially when you add on the fact that the boyfriend then does nothing – does – there's never a deposit he makes with all these thousands of dollars.

00:08:29.520 I mean, just – it's so completely unbelievable.

00:08:33.580 And, like, they think they've talked themselves into this untraceable victory here.

00:08:39.400 Like, they just – oh, well, they can't prove that this didn't happen, which probably is true, right?

00:08:45.540 I mean, you could get witness testimony, but that's about it.

00:08:48.260 It's probably going to be really hard to prove that that cash went – did not go from her, you know, magical stash to his magical stash with no record of it anywhere.

00:08:57.300 It's going to be hard to prove that.

00:08:58.340 But, I mean, does – the question is, does the judge actually buy it?

00:09:01.600 And I can't believe that he would.

00:09:04.420 I mean, how could he?

00:09:05.660 I mean, the regulations, Glenn, say, according to the attorneys in the case, that she's supposed to report any gift of $100 or more.

00:09:15.560 And we have multiple trips of thousands and thousands of dollars where this woman is going to vacations. 1.00

00:09:23.600 I've never been to Napa Valley on a vacation.

00:09:25.680 I've never been to Aruba on a vacation.

00:09:28.520 But, you know, she's taking really fancy trips for a public servant. 0.99

00:09:35.200 Listen to the hatred.

00:09:38.520 Listen to the hatred.

00:09:39.460 All right, let me hit you up on this then.

00:09:41.320 If you're just going to hit me on the hatred, let me ask you this.

00:09:43.820 Okay.

00:09:44.780 Because I got – I got this –

00:09:46.320 By the way, that's all I have, Stu.

00:09:48.180 That's the only thing you can – that's why she's using it. 1.00

00:09:51.000 Well, that's why she made that speech at the church where she said, like, can you believe they're going after this black man and a black woman?

00:09:56.060 This is all about race.

00:09:57.840 Immediately jumped to that because there's no other way to justify this behavior.

00:10:01.700 It's obviously a problem.

00:10:03.160 But, like, there's this other thing.

00:10:06.280 Their interaction was fascinating between Wade and Willis.

00:10:12.440 Willis continually kept talking about bizarre relationship details that she was not being asked about.

00:10:21.100 Did you notice this?

00:10:22.560 This was fascinating.

00:10:23.640 Oh, yeah, I know.

00:10:24.320 How could – if you watched it, how could you miss it?

00:10:27.800 At one point, like, she kept making this distinction as to when their relationship ended.

00:10:34.140 She claims it ended in August.

00:10:36.820 And he – she – he didn't say this, but she claims that he thinks the relationship ended in June or July because that was the last time they had sex.

00:10:46.940 And she kept bringing this up.

00:10:48.080 Like, you know, you know how men are.

00:10:50.140 Men think relationships stop the last time you have sex.

00:10:53.160 And I believe it stops when you have an uncomfortable conversation, the breakup conversation.

00:10:59.200 Well, hang on just a second, Stu.

00:11:01.020 May I just point out, he also believes that his marriage is over, you know, long before the divorce proceedings.

00:11:10.540 When you're testifying, did you have an affair during your marriage?

00:11:14.460 And the answer is no, and you're still married and seeing someone, you don't get to say, in a court of law, well, yeah, but that's not how I define marriage.

00:11:27.720 Right.

00:11:29.320 So it's these people.

00:11:31.080 So go ahead.

00:11:31.720 I will say in this day and age, you do get to occasionally make up definitions of marriage.

00:11:35.940 That is something that we have learned over the years.

00:11:37.860 You are occasionally able to do.

00:11:39.400 But so she so she was saying, OK, well, that's how men think.

00:11:45.500 Now, again, I guess you're just able to just trash all men. 0.99

00:11:48.180 That's how men think.

00:11:49.400 Now, I don't have no guy who's like, actually, we broke up on Tuesday.

00:11:53.140 But I think of the relationship ending last Thursday because we hooked up last Thursday.

00:11:58.300 Like, I don't know guys who think it that way.

00:12:00.620 But, OK, let's just take that as it is.

00:12:03.560 Then that was not something they were asking about, though.

00:12:06.240 They were not saying, like, you know, she wanted to tell this story.

00:12:09.820 She wanted to tell the story so bad.

00:12:11.120 And then she says he you know, she starts going into the details of their breakup conversation.

00:12:16.420 And the attorney cuts.

00:12:18.020 Now, you're not supposed to do this as an attorney.

00:12:19.780 You want the you want the witness to just run their mouth and hopefully give you details you didn't think were coming.

00:12:24.280 The attorney cuts her off and says, yeah, no, I'm not asking about the details of your conversation.

00:12:28.640 You don't need to go into that.

00:12:29.960 I'm not asking about that.

00:12:31.040 She interrupts him and says, oh, well, you should ask about that because wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:12:37.700 I have to also lead that she went on a rage about how she was being personally violated her. 0.72

00:12:46.860 Her most important relationships have been hung out for everybody to see.

00:12:52.940 And she is offended that anybody would do that to her.

00:12:56.980 Right.

00:12:57.320 And then she's privacy violations.

00:12:58.960 Giving all sorts of details and multiple times tries to bring up that Nathan Wade, the guy she was sleeping with, had erectile dysfunction problems.

00:13:11.200 She attempts to do it multiple times.

00:13:15.220 And the attorneys keep cutting them off.

00:13:17.020 And everybody's like, I'm really grossed out.

00:13:18.760 We don't need to know.

00:13:19.780 We don't need to know this information.

00:13:21.040 And at one point, and eventually she gets to the point where she can bring it up because he, the attorneys are trying to get the timeline of this relationship.

00:13:29.400 Again, multiple witnesses are saying it started in 2019.

00:13:32.400 They're denying that.

00:13:33.360 So he's like, well, what about in 2022?

00:13:35.160 Did you guys have a relationship?

00:13:37.080 Her point on that is it was impossible for us to have a relationship because he had some sort of cancer, which apparently gave him erectile dysfunction.

00:13:47.780 And again, they keep trying to cut her off before she says this stuff.

00:13:54.340 She eventually gets it out and then says, and then says, I'm sorry.

00:14:00.400 She, she says, well, I mean, he had issues that would make a relationship impossible.

00:14:05.540 If you know what I mean, but I am not going to emasculate a black man.

00:14:11.580 And the attorney's like, wait, wait a minute.

00:14:15.220 What?

00:14:15.720 Like, we didn't ask you about this.

00:14:17.340 And he's so shocked.

00:14:18.700 He's like, what?

00:14:19.760 And she says, I will not emasculate a black man.

00:14:26.760 And then sits back in her chair.

00:14:27.600 I need that audio.

00:14:28.500 I need that audio.

00:14:29.620 It was incredible.

00:14:30.720 And you got to think this guy, Nathan Wade, who's, by the way, trying to share this BS story about cash payments and when the relationships start.

00:14:40.980 Like, they're on the same team.

00:14:42.260 They've obviously arranged this story.

00:14:43.920 And he's like, why are you talking about my wiener?

00:14:46.560 There's no reason.

00:14:48.080 Why?

00:14:49.840 Why is that?

00:14:51.000 Why?

00:14:51.480 Why are you doing that?

00:14:52.900 Stop bringing that up.

00:14:53.740 You wouldn't ask me about a relationship if you saw his wiener. 0.99

00:14:56.720 That's basically.

00:14:57.960 That was her defense.

00:14:59.000 How dare you?

00:14:59.460 It really was.

00:15:02.420 This guy couldn't perform at all.

00:15:04.520 Let me tell you about what he tried to do this one time.

00:15:07.480 Ma'am, stop. 1.00

00:15:09.420 Can I ask you this?

00:15:10.540 What I find so infuriating is their logic never meets.

00:15:17.740 It is never complete.

00:15:19.660 So on one hand, she is talking about how we can't have a relationship.

00:15:26.160 It's impossible.

00:15:26.640 He just asked if your relationship.

00:15:29.460 We couldn't have because his wiener wouldn't work.

00:15:34.360 Earlier, when she's asked about relationship ending, she says, guys only think of that as sex.

00:15:42.400 Women think of it differently. 1.00

00:15:45.100 Wait, no.

00:15:45.580 Apparently, you think about the sex, too.

00:15:47.740 Because they asked you about your relationship.

00:15:49.980 Not, you know, not his wiener.

00:15:52.940 She said it was impossible without that factor.

00:15:55.420 And then later on said that it's the exact opposite stance.

00:15:59.140 Exact opposite.

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00:17:01.660 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:17:09.740 A man whose church I wish I could attend if I lived in the area, I would be there often, Josh McPherson.

00:17:15.860 Welcome to the program, sir.

00:17:17.040 How are you?

00:17:18.320 I'm very good, Glenn.

00:17:19.300 Thanks for having me back.

00:17:20.600 Sure.

00:17:21.160 So when I brought you in last time, you sat in my studio and you were like,

00:17:26.580 I don't even, I have no idea why I'm even here.

00:17:29.560 That's very true.

00:17:35.320 That was a little confusing experience.

00:17:37.340 Yeah.

00:17:37.560 Because we called you out of the blue, but as I told you there, you have a global reach now.

00:17:43.260 If you're online and you're posting stuff, you never know who's watching.

00:17:47.580 You never know who's listening.

00:17:49.120 And I thoroughly enjoyed it.

00:17:50.820 What was the take when you got back home?

00:17:53.540 Oh, my gosh.

00:17:56.240 Well, lots of different experiences.

00:17:58.300 But I think largely just so many of the people in our community, especially our church, are just so grateful for you, your impact, your reach, your clarity, your curiosity, as I mentioned on your show, your humility.

00:18:10.100 And just your willingness to invite, like I said, Hick from the sticks to come on your show and talk about Jesus.

00:18:16.740 So a lot of excitement, a lot of gratefulness.

00:18:19.300 And like I said, you gave my family a top ten experience of our life with the after show, after the podcast, the things we got to see there at your place.

00:18:27.040 So we are very, very grateful.

00:18:28.580 Well, very grateful.

00:18:29.820 Well, Josh, I'll give you the hundred bucks I promised you if you said all those nice things.

00:18:34.660 So you did a good job.

00:18:35.540 It came off sincere.

00:18:37.120 I remember it was $200.

00:18:41.760 All right, Josh, I want to take this and break what happened down at Lakewood Church, the shooting there.

00:18:51.100 And I want to break it down the way you've broken it down, one piece at a time, starting with on a human level.

00:18:58.040 Because you go through on a human level, practical level, social level, political level, theological level, and it really helps you think clearly.

00:19:07.880 So let's start with this story on a human level.

00:19:11.420 Yeah, we were chatting.

00:19:14.300 As a pastor, you see something that happens like this, and it's so tragic and it's so complex.

00:19:20.200 And instantly it can become politicized.

00:19:22.340 It's instantly it can be weaponized from one side of the aisle to push for some sort of crazy legislation.

00:19:30.320 And the focus goes the wrong way.

00:19:32.600 It goes to the wrong problem.

00:19:33.760 And as a pastor, you look at it and go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:19:36.520 On a human level, at a very basic starting point, this is tragic and complex.

00:19:41.160 There are no easy answers, especially when you have what I would consider to be a mentally unstable woman who thinks she's a man. 1.00

00:19:48.360 And potentially on hormones, we'll never know that if she was, that'll never get out. 0.95

00:19:54.680 And she takes her seven-year-old child into harm's way while she is going to attempt to harm other people. 0.69

00:20:01.900 We can just start with the fact that this is tragic and complex.

00:20:06.240 It's complex for her family, her former husband, her in-laws, her Jewish in-laws, mother-in-laws, already on the news.

00:20:14.640 It's tragic for her friends, her co-workers, that child's friends.

00:20:18.480 And then you get into the security team at the church, the Sunday school teachers of the church, the pastoral team of the church.

00:20:23.840 Now, every single person attending that church has to deal with the fear and anxiety.

00:20:27.960 Is it safe to go to church again?

00:20:29.280 And I have people in my church, Glenn, who've been a part of kind of mass shooting events at concerts, couldn't go outside for years, couldn't go back out in public for years.

00:20:39.440 And so just on a basic human level, I think to be helpful pastorally, we start with the fact that it's tragic and complex.

00:20:46.440 And that's where we used to pause for a while.

00:20:49.500 That's right.

00:20:50.060 I've been doing radio for almost 50 years, and, you know, there used to be a time where you didn't joke, you didn't make it political, you didn't do anything.

00:21:01.640 It was a moment of pause and reflection, and the whole country did it.

00:21:06.180 Now it goes, if it even goes to the human level, it's not there very long.

00:21:12.980 That's exactly right.

00:21:14.280 And we're lesser for it.

00:21:15.760 I mean, if we as a society can't come together and acknowledge the human element, that this is tragic at every level, then we're less human and we're missing something very, very profound.

00:21:27.440 So on a practical level, the next thing you looked at.

00:21:31.780 Yeah, the next thing that I thought was, thanks be to God, there was leadership in place.

00:21:35.900 I don't know this church very well, the leadership at all, but thanks be to God, they had the sense to take initiative to prepare for evil.

00:21:43.920 And that's the job of leadership, is we don't make war on things because we hate what's in front of us, but we love what's behind us.

00:21:50.920 And part of being a stronger man, part of being a good leader, is preparing for worst-case scenario.

00:21:55.340 And so, you know, our nation may not be taking very good care of our borders, but thanks be to God there was a pastor in Texas who was willing to take care and prepare to protect the people of his church.

00:22:05.560 So on a practical level, having spent six years in law enforcement myself and having been put in situations where weapons were drawn and was instant moments away from having to make a live or death decision myself,

00:22:16.740 I guess my first instinct was it's tragic at a human level.

00:22:21.240 And then I was intently grateful for good guys with guns, which is the only thing that will stop bad guys with guns.

00:22:28.060 Then the social level.

00:22:30.420 You asked here, are we even listening?

00:22:32.980 Yeah, you know, it's interesting, Camille Paglia, I don't know if you're familiar with her, she's actually someone I've listened to quite a bit.

00:22:41.120 I actually really enjoy her, and we're kind of odd-bed fellows.

00:22:44.480 She's an atheist, lesbian, self-identified, like lesbian, transgender, professor of Yale, and kind of higher learning.

00:22:56.140 Hold on just a second.

00:22:57.720 America, did you just hear this?

00:23:01.380 A pastor who listens because there's always something to learn from somebody, even if you disagree with them.

00:23:10.440 There's always something to learn, and you listen and you don't hate.

00:23:14.820 God bless you.

00:23:15.560 All right, go ahead.

00:23:16.200 Well, I was listening to one of her lectures, and she's just naturally curious, and she's very intellectually honest.

00:23:22.180 And so I've followed her for several years and just kind of watching the journey that she's on.

00:23:26.640 And when she speaks, she makes a lot of sense.

00:23:28.880 And one of the things that she talks about is she studied androgyny.

00:23:32.000 She's written dozens of books on it and papers.

00:23:33.940 And it's kind of the blurring of men and women.

00:23:40.420 And she talks about, historically, she's very intelligent.

00:23:43.280 She talks about the fact that it's inevitable that when a society fixates on androgyny, it is undeniable and indisputable late-stage culture.

00:23:55.960 It's a telltale sign that that culture is in its late stage of collapse.

00:24:00.140 She goes through the Greek Empire, the Persian Empire, the Babylonian Empire, the Roman Empire.

00:24:07.020 And she shows what was—

00:24:08.700 The Weimar Republic, the Republic of Germany.

00:24:11.780 It was late-stage.

00:24:13.020 That's exactly right.

00:24:13.480 That's exactly right.

00:24:14.560 She referenced that as well.

00:24:16.180 And she talks about the social contagion that she calls this kind of transgender fixation with androgyny.

00:24:22.500 And the crazy thing is, Glenn, she points to each one of those cultures.

00:24:25.540 Each one of those cultures and their fixation on androgyny felt they were being two things.

00:24:30.140 One, sophisticated and compassionate.

00:24:33.520 And as a self-avowed, atheist, lesbian, transgender person, she says,

00:24:38.740 I am grateful that there was not a crazy government mechanism in place to pull me into making decisions that I would have regretted the rest of my life when I was 12.

00:24:47.060 Because in my state, Glenn, it's illegal for a government school teacher to reveal to a parent that their child wants to use different pronouns at school.

00:24:55.620 And it's legal for the government schools to transport that child to a, quote, gender therapy center to begin hormonal treatment without their parents' consent. 0.87

00:25:03.880 And that is absolute insanity.

00:25:07.220 And so we have to recognize what's happening here and stand up and say something about it.

00:25:11.140 So on a social level, are we listening when you take a mentally unstable woman and encourage her to be a man, et cetera, et cetera? 0.76

00:25:19.760 Next, you talked about political, on a political level.

00:25:25.140 Well, it's crazy to me, and I think there's a wide consensus with this in our nation.

00:25:31.660 I think I hope there is.

00:25:32.380 There's just no ability to understand the pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas, pro-terror movement sweeping our nation, quote, unquote, at least as we see snippets of it in the news,

00:25:44.620 because there's no question as to the agenda of Hamas, the agenda of that terrorist group.

00:25:51.320 And my question was, like, she had indefeitable pro-Palestinian, free Hamas messages on her person, on her gun, in her social sphere that's being investigated.

00:26:04.580 And it's like, are we learning anything about terrorism here?

00:26:07.480 They are radicalizing the mentally unstable.

00:26:10.020 They're radicalizing the weak and vulnerable.

00:26:12.180 They're radicalizing the disenfranchised.

00:26:14.380 And they have one message.

00:26:15.760 It's not love.

00:26:16.620 It's not peace.

00:26:17.780 It's not doing to others as you have them doing to you.

00:26:20.760 It is murder, kill, destroy.

00:26:24.540 And we know that's satanic because that's Satan's playbook.

00:26:27.640 The Bible says that Satan comes to steal, kill, and destroy.

00:26:31.180 And when you parachute into a town and rape women and murder children, you are running the devil's playbook, whether it's in Gaza, Israel, or in Houston, Texas. 0.74

00:26:43.680 So we've gone through human level, practical level, social level, political level.

00:26:49.000 The last one is really your purview as a pastor, a theological level.

00:26:56.140 We're with Josh McPherson.

00:26:57.920 You need to follow him, Pastor Josh McPherson.

00:27:02.700 You can follow him on Instagram, at Pastor Josh McPherson.

00:27:06.620 His website is gracecitychurch.com.

00:27:09.840 I think this man is, I think he's the real deal.

00:27:13.580 And I've been looking for pastors like this, and I've found many of them.

00:27:19.080 This guy I just, for some reason, really connect with.

00:27:22.900 You're listening to the best of Glenn Beck.

00:27:25.160 Check out the full show podcast to listen to the rest of this interview.

00:27:31.620 Navalny.

00:27:32.480 You remember him?

00:27:33.620 Yeah.

00:27:34.420 He was probably the most prominent opposition leader of Putin in Russia.

00:27:41.720 And the Russian courts found him guilty of all kinds of things.

00:27:47.980 There were a lot of charges against Navalny, and they finally got that guy and put him away.

00:27:54.700 Ooh, can you imagine?

00:27:55.840 Super legitimate legal process that led to that.

00:27:57.920 Right.

00:27:58.800 Imagine what it's like to live in Russia. 0.89

00:28:00.700 Aren't you glad you live here?

00:28:02.760 So we told you a couple of weeks ago, he was taken from, I think he was in Moscow.

00:28:08.580 And he was taken in the middle of the night someplace.

00:28:13.460 His attorney didn't know where he was for like two weeks.

00:28:17.680 Finally, they say, we took him to the Polar Wolf Arctic Penal Colony.

00:28:25.220 Now, this is a place, it's in the Arctic Circle.

00:28:31.380 And there is no escape because you go outside and you die.

00:28:36.340 So I didn't think this was good for him.

00:28:41.700 You know, I don't think anybody thought, oh, well, he's going to kick back.

00:28:45.740 You know, I think there were some people that thought he didn't even make it there.

00:28:49.340 You know, somehow or another, oh, it's just, he caught a cold.

00:28:52.960 It was breezy in his head because they found a hole in his head.

00:28:57.100 But he was out walking.

00:28:59.020 Ready?

00:28:59.260 He was out walking last Friday in the Polar Wolf Arctic Penal Colony.

00:29:10.420 Apparently, he liked to go outside and walk.

00:29:16.520 Now, does that sound like something in the wintertime, Stu, that you would recommend?

00:29:23.360 You know, no, I would not.

00:29:26.360 And it's, you know, I'm not a fan of exercise generally, but I think this is the type of exercise you should avoid for sure.

00:29:33.320 Yeah, it's, again, in the Arctic Circle.

00:29:37.040 So he apparently just loved to walk outside, and they'd let him.

00:29:44.380 And they said that, you know, 47 years old, he's the guy who went after the corruption and opulence of the crooks and thieves of Russia's elites and Putin.

00:29:56.880 And they said he just went outside for a walk, and then he came back in, and he felt unwell.

00:30:06.500 And then, you know, they brought him back to the cell, and he fell unconscious almost immediately.

00:30:12.640 And the prison said, quote, all necessary resuscitation measures were carried out, which did not yield positive results.

00:30:21.340 Oh, you're kidding me.

00:30:22.260 No, and I am sure they strapped electric wires to him and beat his chest.

00:30:27.480 That's not the way we would put it here.

00:30:29.260 I'm sorry, but.

00:30:32.100 So Putin was told about the death, and he said, hmm.

00:30:36.180 All broken up.

00:30:37.280 All broken up.

00:30:39.040 I think he might have been a little sad because he didn't get to throw this guy from a window, you know.

00:30:43.920 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

00:30:45.480 I mean, it was a huge shocker that this happened.

00:30:51.040 I was really surprised.

00:30:52.720 The most surprising death of all time.

00:30:58.880 Yeah, and I don't think anything else could be said except this.

00:31:02.140 When I first was told the story, I heard them say, yeah, he was on a walk at the Polar Wolf.

00:31:10.580 And I didn't know that was the name of the prison, and I just, I misheard them.

00:31:14.200 I thought they said he was on a walk on the Polar Roof Arctic Penal Colony.

00:31:20.280 And so.

00:31:20.680 And just kept walking, forgot to take the left-hand turn.

00:31:23.820 That's really not a good, I mean, in any way, shape, or form, you're in Russia, don't walk on the roof. 1.00

00:31:31.820 They have a problem.

00:31:33.500 I don't know if they're all slippery or what, but a lot of people fall from the roof.

00:31:37.300 Imagine the balls of this guy are like two in the middle of all of this going on.

00:31:42.140 Like, he has no fear at all for any repercussions as to his actions of just killing people that oppose him.

00:31:50.660 Has no, I mean, all the microscopes that are on every one of his actions right now and does not care at all.

00:31:59.700 And, you know, I mean, it's incredible.

00:32:02.060 Yeah, a little bit, a little bit.

00:32:05.100 We have somebody who's listening earlier to the program.

00:32:07.720 A friend of mine wrote in because we were talking about Fannie Willis opening herself up to embezzlement investigations because her cash. 0.68

00:32:19.400 Do we have that clip?

00:32:20.520 Can we play that clip, please, of Fannie Willis talking about the cash that she has?

00:32:26.760 Cut to.

00:32:28.200 But I always have cash at the house.

00:32:30.520 That has been, I don't know, all my life.

00:32:34.940 If you're a woman and you go on a date with a man, you better have $200 in your pocket. 1.00

00:32:38.920 So if that man acts up, you can go where you want to go.

00:32:41.800 So I keep cash in my house.

00:32:43.680 And I don't keep cash as good in my purse like I used to.

00:32:47.260 I don't go on many dates.

00:32:48.900 But when you go on a date, you should have cash in your pocket.

00:32:52.740 So my question was, where did that cash originally come from if it didn't come out of the bank?

00:32:56.840 Cash is fungible.

00:32:58.800 I've had cash for years in my house.

00:33:01.840 So for me to tell you the source of when it comes from, when you go to Publix and you buy something, you get $50, you throw it in there.

00:33:07.920 It's been my whole life.

00:33:09.860 When I took out a large amount of money on my first campaign, I kept some of the cash of that.

00:33:14.500 Like, to tell you, I just have cash in my house.

00:33:18.300 I don't have as much today as I would normally have.

00:33:21.840 But I'm building back up now.

00:33:23.820 You just put money in.

00:33:24.840 It's a very good practice.

00:33:26.000 I would advise it to all women.

00:33:28.580 Sure, sure.

00:33:29.800 So she right now doesn't have thousands and thousands of dollars in cash like she used to. 1.00

00:33:34.680 But she's building back up.

00:33:38.700 Okay.

00:33:39.240 And look, I think she's right.

00:33:40.980 I think it's a good piece of advice that if you're going out on a date, you have a couple hundred bucks in your purse because you never know what's going to happen.

00:33:48.020 You want to make sure you're prepared for anything.

00:33:49.800 I think that's a good thing for everybody to do.

00:33:51.980 A lot of people don't use cash now, and so they don't carry it ever.

00:33:55.580 And it's like, well, you never know when there's a credit card machine down or the ATM is broke.

00:33:59.500 Who knows what's going to happen?

00:34:00.640 Be prepared with a couple hundred bucks.

00:34:02.460 Sure.

00:34:03.240 Yeah.

00:34:04.960 $4,000 that you're just handing over on random occasions constantly to your boyfriend to pay for luxurious trips all over the world?

00:34:12.180 Meh.

00:34:12.560 Not so common.

00:34:13.340 Not necessarily the same advice.

00:34:14.720 Because, look, she took some money out of her first campaign and kept some of that cash. 1.00

00:34:20.080 Now, here's the good news, because I just got a letter in from a friend who said, so did Fannie Willis open herself up to an embezzlement investigation?

00:34:32.840 She stated her cash hoard, cash was fungible.

00:34:37.160 She used some of her cash hoard for her campaign. 1.00

00:34:40.300 Generally, that means she loaned her own cash to the campaign. 0.99

00:34:44.980 Perfectly legal if you keep records of the money and how much money is moving.

00:34:50.760 When it was over, presumably, she got paid back from her campaign via donors, I guess.

00:34:56.640 Remember, she was allegedly a Soros-backed DA candidate.

00:35:00.080 She kept some of that, she said.

00:35:01.920 Well, there must, capital letters, must be records of both of those transactions because there's no way her campaign could have paid her back in cash.

00:35:14.240 So at least she opened herself up to campaign finance investigation for how the money got in and out of her campaign and how she got paid back and how she turned the check or the bank wire from her campaign back to into cash for her hoard. 1.00

00:35:27.920 Even if her campaign paid her back in cash, there must be a record, otherwise it's not legal.

00:35:35.080 Kemp could refer this in and of itself to the state prosecutor's office and likely appoint a special prosecutor for investigation on this.

00:35:43.860 I mean, it could theoretically be, right, that she withdrew this cash.

00:35:48.140 She at one point talked about withdrawing $50,000 to pay for her campaign expenses in a campaign that she lost previously.

00:35:55.800 So she was complaining about how she had no money. 1.00

00:35:58.380 And this is one of the things.

00:35:59.180 That's not possible.

00:36:00.000 It's not possible.

00:36:00.880 Well, she talked. 0.91

00:36:01.620 This is what she said she did.

00:36:02.820 I know, but may I just, have you ever tried to withdraw a large sum of money from the bank?

00:36:07.720 $10,000?

00:36:08.500 $5,000?

00:36:09.320 Yeah, I mean, not often, but I've attempted.

00:36:11.820 Yeah, okay, ever.

00:36:12.600 Okay, yeah.

00:36:13.340 I don't know.

00:36:14.000 Attempted.

00:36:14.420 Maybe.

00:36:14.640 Okay, so you go in and you ask for $50,000 in cash.

00:36:20.100 Never does that.

00:36:20.580 The bank will tell you, we don't have that cash.

00:36:25.900 You'll have to come back Tuesday or next week at some point.

00:36:30.560 Is that true?

00:36:31.860 Oh, yeah.

00:36:32.400 The reason I ask that, I was just reading this story from, I think it was in your email newsletter today,

00:36:37.940 but it's a story about the personal finance woman at New York Magazine who got a call from someone

00:36:44.980 who said they were from the government and needed her to put $50,000 into a shoebox

00:36:49.000 and hand it to a guy in a car that was passing by, and she did it.

00:36:53.060 Which is, I don't know that I'm taking her advice in future columns,

00:36:56.420 but she said in that story that she went in and withdrew $50,000 from her bank account,

00:37:01.900 and the bank didn't even ask her what it was for, which to me was shocking.

00:37:09.140 The bank doesn't have to, but she would be setting off alarms over $10,000. 0.76

00:37:14.200 It would be reported to the government.

00:37:16.180 But I know I have asked for a sum of money and was going to buy something in cash,

00:37:23.400 and I was put through the ringer on it and told it would be two weeks beforehand

00:37:31.380 because all of the money in the bank, at least it's the way it is in Texas,

00:37:35.260 all of the money in our banks is not in the vault.

00:37:38.960 They take that every night and they bring it to the treasury,

00:37:42.380 and then the bank has to say how much money they need for daily operation.

00:37:47.980 So when you go take a large sum of money out, you can't do it right away.

00:37:52.580 Now, maybe that's different in Atlanta, but I highly doubt it.

00:37:57.400 And why would you take out cash?

00:37:59.600 Well, yeah, and this is what I was trying to get to.

00:38:01.800 It's like if you had $50,000 in the bank and you wanted to use it for your campaign,

00:38:06.800 you would either take $50,000 out, as you pointed out, and loan it to your campaign,

00:38:11.600 which would be a very normal way politicians – you wouldn't do that in cash, of course,

00:38:15.300 but it would be a normal thing that politicians do.

00:38:17.440 They take money out and loan it to the campaign all the time.

00:38:20.200 That's very normal.

00:38:21.120 However, you would either do it that way, and then there would be all the problems

00:38:25.960 you just discussed, or you could theoretically take this money out for some reason

00:38:30.600 and give it to the campaign as it's needed, right?

00:38:34.760 Like you wouldn't necessarily give it all at once.

00:38:38.680 But there would be no reason to do that in cash form.

00:38:41.780 If you had to withdraw it from the bank anyway, you wouldn't put $50,000 at your house

00:38:45.700 and then loan $1,000 a week to your campaign.

00:38:47.960 Why would you keep that – I mean, it makes no sense at all.

00:38:50.800 Why would you have $50,000?

00:38:52.920 Why would you want it in your house?

00:38:54.840 No, it's a terrible idea.

00:38:55.920 If anybody found out that you had that in your house, it makes you and your family a target.

00:39:00.340 And like, I don't know.

00:39:01.060 Why would you want that?

00:39:01.740 And how could they find out unless you happen to testify about it in front of the entire country

00:39:06.800 and tell everyone that you usually have tens of thousands of dollars at your home,

00:39:10.940 which she did yesterday, which is a terrible idea.

00:39:14.220 Terrible.

00:39:14.860 And even he said, well, you know, if I had that much money in my house, I would never say that.

00:39:21.120 Why would I say that?

00:39:22.020 It'd make me a target.

00:39:22.980 He said that.

00:39:23.720 She's like, well, I don't have as much now.

00:39:27.320 You know, I've got, you know, maybe a couple hundred bucks.

00:39:30.680 But I used to keep hundreds of thousands of dollars in my house.

00:39:35.180 Millions, billions of dollars.

00:39:36.980 I could go on vacation.

00:39:38.000 I like to pay, you know, I like to pay everything in cash because it doesn't –

00:39:43.000 honestly, it doesn't bring up any suspect, you know, on my name or reputation.

00:39:49.840 I go to the airport and I say I want a ticket to Aruba and I just put $4,000 down at the airport.

00:39:56.480 They love it.

00:39:57.300 They love it.

00:39:57.820 Actually, no.

00:39:58.540 I have my boyfriend pay for it on his business card and then I give him cash in return.

00:40:03.800 It's even worse than you bringing the cash to the airport.

00:40:06.460 So if he turned that in, that bank statement, to his business, did he get reimbursed for it?

00:40:17.340 Right.

00:40:17.960 Or did he come to the cashier and just pay that in cash, you know, at his place of business?

00:40:26.620 Yeah, it's unclear.

00:40:27.380 He kind of made it seem – they did follow up and try to basically get him on the idea that he deducted this as a business expense,

00:40:35.760 which he denied.

00:40:37.460 He said he did not deduct it as a business expense.

00:40:39.940 So he – you know, and this happens, you know, especially if you're a small business owner.

00:40:43.300 Sometimes you put stuff on your card you don't even mean to.

00:40:45.460 That's a personal thing and you have to make sure you keep detailed records to make sure that you know that that is not a business expense because you –

00:40:52.160 Detailed records.

00:40:53.820 You know, anybody who has these sorts of arrangements, if you have a small business or something,

00:40:59.000 you know how crazy you have to be on this stuff because they'll go after you for anything.

00:41:03.820 So you have to keep detailed records.

00:41:06.340 You know, if you transfer money from one account to another, in the note, you make sure you put in there,

00:41:11.320 this is for a personal expense.

00:41:12.680 Like, you have to make sure you're really on top of this and you use the right cards for the right circumstances all the time

00:41:17.860 because any competent person who really cares about getting this stuff right is going to make sure they're all over it.

00:41:23.520 Oh, my gosh.

00:41:24.020 These two would be an IRS dream.

00:41:27.480 Imagine being an agent going, please sign them to me.

00:41:30.360 All right.

00:41:33.300 And by the way, if they weren't liberals, the IRS would already be knocking at their door.

00:41:40.080 I'd have to never me to just bed with my friends.

00:41:44.080 La da da da da.

00:41:45.020 Oh, my God.

00:41:45.220 Why not?

00:41:47.440 I'm scared.

00:41:49.120 I'm scared.

00:41:49.420 I'm scared.

00:41:50.040 I'm afraid.

00:41:50.500 I'm scared.

00:41:50.780 I'm scared.

00:41:51.280 I'm scared.

00:41:51.780 I'm scared.

00:41:51.960 I'm.

00:41:53.340 I'm scared.

00:41:54.180 I'm scared.

00:41:54.600 Oh, I'm scared.

00:41:54.900 I'm scared.

00:41:56.100 I'm scared.

00:41:56.620 I'm scared.

00:41:57.480 I'm scared.

00:42:07.680 So I'm scared.

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