The Glenn Beck Program - June 10, 2019


Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Pat Gray ｜ 6⧸10⧸19


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The New York Times explains how the powerful right is controlling YouTube and silencing conservative voices. Plus, a story about a crazed gunman with a gun and a conspiracy theory about Chernobyl and the CIA. And a look at the numbers behind the Biden and Beto campaign in Iowa.

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00:00:00.000 It's Monday, podcasters. We've got a great show for you. I'm up at the ranch in Idaho. Pat was back home manning the place, but we had some great discussions.
00:00:10.500 The first part is coming from an article, the making of a YouTube radical. Meanwhile, the rest of social media picking off conservative voices one by one. But really, it's the very powerful right that is controlling YouTube.
00:00:30.200 It's an amazing story that we have to break up into two days. So tomorrow will be the finish of it. And also, we went over the numbers of what was happening in Iowa.
00:00:40.280 The Biden and the Bernie lead in Iowa. Beto is battling in Waterloo. And we all know how Waterloo ended.
00:00:49.120 And another day closer to President Trump's re-election, in my opinion, because Sanders is now trying to say that he hated the Soviet Union.
00:01:00.680 That was a bad dictatorship. And that's not what he means by socialism. We show you the evidence. That's exactly what he means by that.
00:01:08.940 And then in Hour 3, we talk a little bit about the show Chernobyl on HBO, which is tremendous.
00:01:16.780 And the conspiracy theories here in the United States, because this was brought up by Chernobyl, because the Soviets are mad at the HBO version of Chernobyl.
00:01:28.600 And what they're going to do is remake it, except they're going to remake it and tell the truth that it was the CIA that blew up Chernobyl. 0.75
00:01:36.300 So we talked about conspiracy theories. It's a great podcast you don't want to miss.
00:01:48.160 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:01:56.540 So yesterday, in the New York Times, probably going to take me an hour to go through.
00:02:02.620 So in the New York Times, the making of a YouTube radical, how the site's algorithms played into the hands of the alt-right.
00:02:11.460 Now, what was the big news last week on the right?
00:02:16.000 And that was what? YouTube silencing voices.
00:02:19.720 I don't even get other Glenn Beck videos in my algorithm, okay?
00:02:25.880 When I go to YouTube and I look to watch something of mine or Stephen Crowder or whatever, I don't get Blaze recommendations.
00:02:36.400 I don't get Glenn Beck recommendations.
00:02:38.840 How is that possible?
00:02:40.500 That's not in my algorithm?
00:02:42.560 I'm telling you, and I mean this sincerely, the only thing I seem to get are Jay Leno videos.
00:02:50.480 Okay.
00:02:51.980 I find those interesting, but what's going on?
00:02:56.580 This article explains it.
00:02:59.100 But they explain it in a good way.
00:03:01.000 Not a brainwashing sort of way.
00:03:03.260 No, no, no.
00:03:04.000 Only the people on the right are brainwashing people.
00:03:07.520 So how the site's algorithms played in the hands of the alt-right.
00:03:11.220 This is by Kevin Roos.
00:03:13.160 He says,
00:03:13.820 Caleb Kane pulled a Glock pistol from his waistband, took out the magazine, and casually tossed both onto the kitchen counter.
00:03:23.200 I bought it the day after I got my first death threat.
00:03:27.640 Now, there's absolutely no questioning of his right to carry a gun.
00:03:33.140 Now, how many times would the New York Times, if it were me, and they wrote this article about me,
00:03:41.380 and I said, yeah, I just, I bought my gun the first time I got a death threat, which I did,
00:03:47.880 and I, you know, casually threw the magazine and the gun onto the counter.
00:03:58.840 Do you think they'd leave it at that?
00:04:01.080 Or would they use that to make me into an extremist immediately?
00:04:07.160 No.
00:04:08.220 With this guy, they make it into a guy under siege.
00:04:12.940 The threats, Mr. Kane explained, came from the right-wing trolls in response to a video he had posted on YouTube a few days earlier.
00:04:25.340 In the video, he told the story of how, as a liberal college dropout struggling to find his place in the world,
00:04:31.080 he had gotten sucked into a vortex of far-right politics on YouTube.
00:04:35.740 I felt, I just fell down this alt-right rabbit hole, he said.
00:04:42.460 McCain, 26, recently swore off the alt-right, which, Mr. McCain, I swore off the alt-right a long, long time ago.
00:04:52.740 It doesn't seem the New York Times seems to have any interest in me swearing off the alt-right,
00:04:59.420 or Ben Shapiro, who they define as alt-right, or Stephen Crowder, who they define as alt-right, swearing off the alt-right.
00:05:10.340 We are not part of the alt-right.
00:05:15.880 Mr. McCain recently swore off the alt-right five years after discovering it, and he has become a vocal critic of it.
00:05:24.500 Like me, that's weird.
00:05:26.400 He's scarred by his experience of being radicalized by what he calls a decentralized cult of far-right.
00:05:34.180 Decentralized. Now, wait a minute. A decentralized cult. Where have I heard decentralized cult before?
00:05:39.680 Decentralized. Oh, oh, oh, oh. You mean like Occupy Wall Street? That's decentralized. That's leaderless.
00:05:46.080 Oh, oh, the guys who wear the masks and are burning buildings down, what do you call them?
00:05:51.580 Oh, Antifa. That's right. They're decentralized.
00:05:54.740 That's right. They're decentralized, and they have no leadership, too.
00:05:58.240 That's the first time I've read about the decentralized cult of the far-right.
00:06:03.980 Oh, oh, oh, I didn't finish. It's the far-right YouTube personalities.
00:06:10.180 Oh, so it's like Stephen Crowder and Dave Rubin and Justin or Jordan Peterson, who's also defined as alt-right by the New York Times.
00:06:25.180 So, those guys, they're not coordinating. Oh, no. They're decentralized. There is no ringleader.
00:06:34.540 But they're all part of the same evil cult.
00:06:38.920 He said they convinced him that Western civilization was under threat.
00:06:45.500 No! Come on! 1.00
00:06:48.020 How could you possibly say this nation and the Western world is under threat? That's ridiculous.
00:06:56.180 Show me the evidence.
00:06:58.160 Show me the evidence.
00:06:59.620 Besides, you know, jailing people for positions, running people out of their jobs or their community because of their positions,
00:07:08.700 because of the financial problems that we've had, because of the media,
00:07:13.460 because of governments all over the world not listening to the people,
00:07:17.460 Oh, let's vote for Brexit. 0.86
00:07:19.520 Oh, no. You voted the wrong way.
00:07:22.020 Well, we'll just kind of brush that out of the wrong way.
00:07:24.740 Hey, maybe we should vote again.
00:07:27.280 No, you didn't get it right this time, either.
00:07:29.920 Maybe we should vote again.
00:07:31.380 What could possibly lead us to believe that the Western way of life is under attack?
00:07:39.820 Other than the growing number of people that say they want to destroy the free market system?
00:07:45.500 Other than the growing number of Islamists that say they want to destroy the Western way of life?
00:07:52.220 What crazy theory do you have that shows that we're in trouble?
00:07:57.820 Well, the New York Times says it.
00:08:02.940 They tried to convince him that Western civilization was under threat from Muslim immigrants. 1.00
00:08:09.840 Oh, OK, so Muslim immigrants. 1.00
00:08:13.120 I don't think I've ever said it's under attack from Muslim immigrants.
00:08:17.360 I do believe I have said several times,
00:08:20.240 We don't know who people are who are in our own country.
00:08:24.540 We have no idea who they are.
00:08:26.860 Just last week, the biggest group of Africans came across our border.
00:08:34.880 Do we know who they were?
00:08:36.780 No.
00:08:38.260 No.
00:08:39.200 I just told you last week that a bunch of people came from the Congo.
00:08:43.860 They don't even speak English or Spanish.
00:08:48.040 They're now living on the streets in San Antonio.
00:08:52.140 San Antonio issued a request.
00:08:54.700 Does anybody know how to speak French that can work with a homeless here?
00:08:58.020 Because we don't speak French.
00:09:00.560 Now, I'm not saying either one of those groups are terrorist groups.
00:09:04.440 We don't know who they are.
00:09:06.420 How did a group of people that don't speak a common tongue on this continent in a from a poor country in Africa gather up enough money to to go into an airport and fly on that flying machine that most likely none of them have ever flown on anywhere? 0.99
00:09:28.660 Not to see grandma or anything else.
00:09:31.180 They flew to Mexico.
00:09:33.560 Then somehow or another, without speaking a word of English or Spanish, they got over our border. 0.99
00:09:41.060 How did that happen?
00:09:43.740 Boy, these guys are clever.
00:09:45.700 Why are they living on the street?
00:09:47.180 They should be working for NASA because there's some obvious rocket science that they understand that we don't.
00:09:55.120 I wish we had somebody who spoke French so we can find out how they did that all by themselves and now are seemingly so hopeless and so helpless that they're just wasting away on our sidewalks. 1.00
00:10:11.500 They also say that they convinced him that America is under threat from cultural Marxists.
00:10:22.680 No!
00:10:24.720 Marxism and the free market system, they go hand in hand.
00:10:28.880 It's like you got chocolate in my peanut butter.
00:10:31.600 No, no, you've got peanut butter in my chocolate.
00:10:35.320 I kept falling deeper and deeper into this, and it appeared to me, because it made me, it gave me a sense of belonging, that it was good.
00:10:46.600 But I was brainwashed.
00:10:51.320 You know where we get the brainwashing thing? 0.98
00:10:55.980 The Marxists!
00:10:58.140 Just thought I'd throw that in.
00:10:59.060 Over the years of reporting on internet culture, this is from the reporter, I've heard countless versions of McCain's story.
00:11:08.140 A nameless young man, usually white, frequently interested in video games, visits YouTube, just looking for direction or distraction.
00:11:18.260 But he is seduced by a community of far-right creators.
00:11:24.440 This never happens on the left.
00:11:26.840 This never happens with ISIS, Al-Qaeda.
00:11:31.220 How dare you say they're trying to recruit people!
00:11:35.760 Oh my gosh!
00:11:37.800 You are so anti-Islam, I can't be your friend anymore.
00:11:42.620 In fact, I should start a group to make sure you're banned from everything.
00:11:47.560 Oh my gosh!
00:11:49.340 I've got to ban you to save freedom. 0.57
00:11:51.960 Some men discover far-right videos by accident, while others seek them out.
00:12:01.840 Some travel all the way to neo-Nazism, while others stop at mild forms of bigotry.
00:12:10.060 Oh my gosh!
00:12:11.120 So some make it all the way to National Socialism.
00:12:19.960 National Socialism.
00:12:21.120 I think National Socialism is Marxist, which would be on the left.
00:12:26.620 No, no, no, no, no.
00:12:27.720 What am I thinking?
00:12:30.160 Whoa! 0.71
00:12:30.720 That college brainwashing almost was just ineffective there for a minute.
00:12:37.600 I'm sorry.
00:12:38.260 Nazis who were socialists, they're on the right.
00:12:42.600 Oh man, I forgot.
00:12:44.880 Silly rabbit tricks are for kids.
00:12:47.340 The common thread in many of these stories is YouTube recommendation algorithm.
00:12:56.260 Now Glenn, you don't really want to see videos of you or the Blaze or some of your friends and what they're saying.
00:13:05.740 You don't want to really see that.
00:13:08.020 You want to see yet another Jay Leno garage video.
00:13:12.220 Because that's where your time should be spent.
00:13:16.660 Not looking for any kind of political discussion.
00:13:20.280 Now, now, now.
00:13:20.840 If you want the young Turks, we can serve that up. 1.00
00:13:25.060 This is not far from reality, as you will find in this beautiful front page story on the New York Times.
00:13:33.580 It takes three whole pages to tell us exactly what's happening at YouTube.
00:13:40.420 And who the alt-right really is.
00:13:44.400 And what YouTube and others are now starting to do about it.
00:13:50.300 We'll pick it up here in just a second.
00:13:52.620 One minute.
00:14:01.680 So, what does Dad really want for Father's Day?
00:14:05.820 I'm going to be real honest with you.
00:14:07.460 And I'm turning into that guy.
00:14:08.580 Like, when I was in my 20s, I was not this guy.
00:14:11.640 What do you want for Father's Day?
00:14:13.080 This, this, this, and this.
00:14:15.360 But now that I'm getting a little older, I just really want.
00:14:18.320 And I can't believe it.
00:14:19.120 My parents weren't lying to me.
00:14:21.520 Oh, I don't want anything, honey.
00:14:23.820 I just want to be with you.
00:14:26.240 Oh, I hated that answer.
00:14:27.880 But they weren't lying.
00:14:29.020 They really did.
00:14:31.980 Weirdos.
00:14:32.340 Anyway, that's where I'm at.
00:14:34.620 I just want time with my family.
00:14:36.580 Now, if you want to throw an Omaha steak on top of it, I'm good with that.
00:14:40.820 Omaha Steaks has 74% off their Father's Day Steak Fix gift package.
00:14:46.120 It's a $235 value, and it's now $59.99.
00:14:52.720 You get two filets.
00:14:54.540 You get top sirloins, pork chops, the four Omaha steak burgers, the jumbo franks.
00:15:00.400 These things are monsters.
00:15:01.900 The chicken fried steaks, the all beef meatballs the size of my son's head, four chicken premium breasts,
00:15:09.980 four caramel apple tartlets, a packet of their Omaha Steak Signature Seasoning,
00:15:15.760 and just because they're Omaha Steaks, they're going to throw in it four extra Omaha Steak burgers.
00:15:21.960 Now, that's for free.
00:15:24.060 $59.99 for that entire package.
00:15:28.380 That's insane.
00:15:29.960 That's a 74% off of what they would normally charge.
00:15:36.240 Are you kidding me?
00:15:37.180 This is a no-brainer.
00:15:38.440 What does Dad want?
00:15:39.380 You and meat.
00:15:42.320 No vegetables included.
00:15:44.180 Go to omahasteaks.com.
00:15:45.920 When you get to the search bar, search for the word Beck, and it will take you to the page with this special.
00:15:52.200 All right?
00:15:52.740 So make sure you use the search bar and search for the name Beck, B-E-C-K, 0.98
00:15:56.460 and you'll find this special at omahasteaks.com.
00:15:59.680 That's omahasteaks.com.
00:16:03.340 10 seconds, Station ID.
00:16:09.380 All right, so what are these young boys who are being trapped by the alt-right?
00:16:24.320 What are they to do?
00:16:25.100 Who are they?
00:16:25.700 Well, the New York Times says,
00:16:27.960 The radicalization of young men is driven by a complex stew of emotional, economic, and political elements.
00:16:37.040 Many having nothing to do with social media.
00:16:41.860 Nothing at all.
00:16:43.340 Many of these things.
00:16:45.240 Nothing.
00:16:45.960 Don't even look at social media.
00:16:48.300 Don't look at the mainstream media.
00:16:50.300 Just look at the hypnotizing alt-right.
00:16:54.120 But critics, and independent researchers, say YouTube has inadvertently created a dangerous on-ramp to extremism by combining two things.
00:17:08.600 A business model that rewards provocative videos with exposure and advertising dollar,
00:17:15.360 and an algorithm that guides users down personalized paths meant to keep them glued to their screens.
00:17:22.740 Okay, so wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:17:24.900 Because this is a totally new concept.
00:17:26.360 I'm trying to understand.
00:17:28.020 So what YouTube did, help me out here because I'm a dummy.
00:17:33.020 What YouTube did is they created something where the creators were incentivized to do things that were more and more outrageous,
00:17:44.440 if I understand this right, so people would come back for more.
00:17:51.180 Huh.
00:17:52.740 That is totally new because that's not like the old media, you know?
00:17:58.200 That's not like TV or movies or, you know, Survivor or anything like that.
00:18:07.100 That's not like, that doesn't happen in cable news.
00:18:10.100 CNN, MSNBC, Fox, they never do anything that pushes the envelope just to get ratings.
00:18:17.960 I've never heard anybody in the mainstream media, even the New York Times, I've never heard anybody saying they're just doing this for ratings.
00:18:24.500 You know what I'm saying?
00:18:26.140 So this is a totally new concept that YouTube came up with.
00:18:30.640 There's no one who could have thought that one through and went, well, wait a minute.
00:18:34.880 That might be incentivizing people to do crazier stuff, you know, like putting a video.
00:18:43.200 This would never happen.
00:18:44.660 Putting a video of like some kid on a trampoline jumping off a roof onto the trampoline.
00:18:50.620 That's never going to encourage other kids to do that.
00:18:54.380 What is the New York Times saying?
00:18:57.100 I'm trying to wrap my arms around it.
00:18:59.340 It's so revolutionary what they've done.
00:19:04.540 But I digress.
00:19:08.400 It has been a useful recruiting tool for far right extremism.
00:19:13.720 No one else.
00:19:15.140 Just the far right.
00:19:16.480 YouTube has been able to fly under the radar because until recently, no one thought of it as a place of radicalization happening.
00:19:27.120 No, I certainly didn't.
00:19:30.200 I didn't see what my kids were watching on YouTube and go, good God almighty, what are you watching?
00:19:36.740 It didn't happen.
00:19:38.340 My kids.
00:19:39.420 Here's the thing.
00:19:40.940 Everybody, everybody.
00:19:42.280 Remember when you were growing up and you were like seven or eight and you saw your first hardcore porn?
00:19:50.960 Do you remember that?
00:19:52.580 When you were just accidentally, you know, just stumbled in and you saw just horrible bestiality videos and things like that?
00:20:01.840 Oh, man.
00:20:02.940 I remember.
00:20:03.900 I don't remember that.
00:20:04.960 Gee, no one saw that this might affect kids.
00:20:13.620 Because I did.
00:20:16.360 No, no, no.
00:20:17.140 They flew under the radar.
00:20:19.260 But it's where young people are getting their information and entertainment.
00:20:22.720 And it's a space where creators are broadcasting political content that at times is overtly white supremacist.
00:20:33.580 Wow.
00:20:34.960 Huh.
00:20:36.800 Wow.
00:20:37.700 I just want to take a break.
00:20:39.840 And I want you just to think of all of the things we've learned from the New York Times so far.
00:20:45.500 Because there's no other problems happening with this.
00:20:48.420 This is, this is, they created a space where everyone could express themselves.
00:20:53.460 But then people on the right started to express themselves and it became popular.
00:21:01.340 The best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:21:04.960 Hey, it's Glenn.
00:21:10.840 And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray Unleashed.
00:21:14.960 His podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast.
00:21:18.420 Well, hello, America.
00:21:24.880 The, the election is happening now.
00:21:28.260 Well, whether we like it or not, we know what the press are, are going to do when it gets down to it with, with Donald Trump.
00:21:37.060 But right now they seem pretty intent on destroying Bernie Sanders.
00:21:40.940 Kind of interesting.
00:21:42.440 We're going to take a look at the current polls.
00:21:44.280 Who's starting to surge?
00:21:45.560 Who's way back?
00:21:47.040 Also, we're going to look at Stu's roster.
00:21:50.620 His, his look at the poll numbers.
00:21:53.040 He has a slightly different look at that.
00:21:55.220 Coming up in one minute.
00:21:57.380 This is the Glenn Beck Program.
00:21:59.360 Joe Biden leads the pack and Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg are in close competition for second place.
00:22:13.360 Now, 24% of Iowa's likely Democrat caucus goers say former vice president is Biden is their first choice for president.
00:22:23.000 Sanders is the first choice for 16% of poll respondents, while Warren, the Massachusetts senator, crazy woman, and Buttigieg, mayor of mayor of South Bend, are at 15 and 14% respectively.
00:22:41.720 Another candidate that cracks the double digits is no one.
00:22:49.400 California Senator Kamala Harris comes closest at 7%.
00:22:55.000 Klobuchar comes in at 2%, as does O'Rourke, who says, we're just getting started.
00:23:02.700 We're just getting started.
00:23:03.960 We're just getting started.
00:23:05.300 Yeah, I know.
00:23:06.360 I mean, it's a, it's a long road, but you happen to be on the road to nowhere.
00:23:10.400 But, you know, I know you're just, you're just getting started on your trip to nowhere.
00:23:17.520 Now, this is what is, this is what's happening.
00:23:20.720 The, the, the interesting thing is Warren is the first choice among 15% of the voters.
00:23:27.680 Second choice among 14 and 32% are actively considering her, according to the latest polls.
00:23:36.020 That puts her at a virtual tie with Biden.
00:23:40.480 Warren is also neck and neck with Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg.
00:23:45.580 Biden remains at 24%, the clear front runner.
00:23:50.760 Sanders at 16.
00:23:52.580 So, you're, you're looking at this.
00:23:54.980 The problem is, is that Sanders doesn't have a lot of people looking at him outside of the pool.
00:24:00.160 So, he's coming in second, but he's not, he's not very many people's second choice.
00:24:07.320 And that's really going to hurt him.
00:24:09.720 Now, Stu does his, his weekly or, or bi-monthly look at the polls at this point.
00:24:17.700 And he takes into consideration a lot of different things.
00:24:21.080 And Pat has a look at that.
00:24:22.920 Yeah.
00:24:23.040 He's, he takes into consideration polling, uh, the prediction markets, fundraising.
00:24:29.320 So, how much have they raised?
00:24:31.280 What are the fundamentals?
00:24:32.400 I'm not sure what all goes into fundamentals, media coverage, and more.
00:24:35.320 He's, he takes into account like 30 different categories.
00:24:38.320 So, there's a lot that goes into this.
00:24:40.240 And then he rates the candidates on a score from zero to 100.
00:24:44.720 And coming in at number 24, making his debut on the charts, is, uh, Mike Gravel.
00:24:51.900 Now, you might think, I'm sorry, who?
00:24:54.800 Uh, Mike Gravel has not been around for a while.
00:24:58.320 In fact, the month that Ronald Reagan moved into the White House for the first time,
00:25:04.500 Mike Gravel was leaving his last government job.
00:25:07.980 So, that was 1981.
00:25:09.420 He was a senator from Alaska from 1969 to 1981 and has not been in public office since.
00:25:20.560 So, so, wait, what, did they dig him back up?
00:25:24.040 I don't know his story.
00:25:25.960 It's interesting.
00:25:26.600 It's alive!
00:25:27.840 He was drafted, Glenn, into this race. 0.88
00:25:31.560 And when we say drafted, somebody asked him to run on social media once.
00:25:35.920 So, he jumped in.
00:25:39.500 So, he jumped in.
00:25:40.780 Now, Mike is, uh, a youthful 89 years old.
00:25:45.640 Meaning, when he takes office, he'd be close to 91.
00:25:50.600 So, you talk about experience.
00:25:52.300 Mike Gravel's got it in, in spades.
00:25:55.360 Well, at least he's not just another white man.
00:25:57.980 Right, exactly.
00:25:58.960 Well, yes, he is another white man.
00:26:00.880 But he's very young.
00:26:01.680 Well, he, at this point, at this point, he's turning a little greenish. 0.97
00:26:06.520 And blue in some areas.
00:26:08.240 Like his hair.
00:26:09.980 Yes.
00:26:10.340 But when asked what he'd do to change the country, Gravel was quoted as saying,
00:26:15.440 So, I'm kind of sold.
00:26:20.200 You know, what we should do is find the oldest living human being in the United States
00:26:25.400 and just anoint him our leader.
00:26:27.660 You know, at least then, he'd have an excuse for all the madness that spills out of him.
00:26:32.580 And, uh, you'd just go, well, he's old.
00:26:35.040 So, of course he feels that way.
00:26:37.120 So, maybe, maybe this is our guy.
00:26:40.140 Can we skip up to the relevant, uh, players?
00:26:44.220 I mean, sure, it's fun.
00:26:45.520 You're saying Mike Gravel's not relevant?
00:26:48.540 I'm, yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
00:26:51.240 Wow.
00:26:51.940 All right.
00:26:52.540 Well, let's, let's then move up to, what, the top 10?
00:26:56.680 Do you want to hear that?
00:26:57.380 All right.
00:26:57.980 Um, let's see.
00:27:00.080 Coming in at number 10, it's, it's a long way to scroll.
00:27:04.080 Uh, Julian Castro is the first one in the top 10 at number 10.
00:27:08.020 Uh, he was 10th last time.
00:27:09.700 He's 10th now.
00:27:10.480 He's at 34.5%.
00:27:12.680 Um, now his claim to fame is he was mayor of San Antonio years ago, and then he was
00:27:20.600 the HUD director, uh, for a while.
00:27:23.560 So, um, his big deal is let's fight for $15.
00:27:29.260 Okay.
00:27:30.180 That's your big, okay.
00:27:31.600 Your big campaign issue is we're going to do the minimum wage at $15 an hour.
00:27:35.340 So, uh, good luck for closing down every single fast food joint in America.
00:27:42.220 Yeah.
00:27:42.760 No, I, have you been to McDonald's lately that barely needs people anymore?
00:27:46.840 Uh, I will tell you that I don't think that's his, I don't think it's his big deal.
00:27:50.980 I think his big deal is I'm young, I'm good looking, and I've been groomed by the Obama
00:27:55.860 administration to be a young, good looking Hispanic candidate. 0.96
00:28:00.120 He's, he's really though, despite all of that, that he has going for him, and he did seem
00:28:05.460 to be, uh, he did seem to be like the heir apparent to Obama for, at one point, they, they
00:28:13.740 used to talk about him as if he was, he was the next big thing.
00:28:17.080 And that just hasn't really materialized for him yet.
00:28:20.680 You know, I don't think you can do that anymore.
00:28:22.860 I was watching a speech by Mitt Romney and I thought that seems like so 1965.
00:28:29.660 Doesn't it though?
00:28:30.240 I just don't.
00:28:31.200 Yeah.
00:28:31.860 It just doesn't seem like those are the kind of people that are going to be leading us.
00:28:36.460 Uh, Kirsten Gillibrand is number nine.
00:28:39.440 She was ninth last time too. 0.97
00:28:40.600 She's at 36.7.
00:28:42.180 Um, you know, this is a big New York Senator.
00:28:45.840 Uh, she's done.
00:28:47.060 She's just, I think she's already done.
00:28:48.900 Yeah.
00:28:49.160 I think she's out of this thing before it even starts. 0.89
00:28:51.100 Amy Klobuchar is at number eight at 41.9 rating.
00:28:55.820 Now she's supposed to be the moderate in this race, 1.00
00:28:59.340 but nobody knows anything about her unless you live in Minnesota.
00:29:03.360 Um, and so she's getting no traction either.
00:29:05.920 Cool.
00:29:06.580 Thank God we don't.
00:29:07.540 Yes.
00:29:07.960 Um, Corey Booker, 51, 51.6%, uh, number seven.
00:29:13.460 He's a big gun control guy.
00:29:16.160 Uh, in fact, would confiscate guns.
00:29:18.460 If it was up to him, he is, he was said so he would, uh, he would go door to door perhaps
00:29:24.760 and remove guns from people's homes, which would, well, with the way, the way things are going
00:29:29.120 now, it will be up to the next president, whether we have guns or not.
00:29:32.840 Yeah.
00:29:33.040 I mean, that's kind of the system we're headed for is like, Hey, what do you want to do today?
00:29:37.140 I don't know.
00:29:37.920 Oh, let's, let's ban all people who are left-handed.
00:29:42.120 Okay.
00:29:43.500 At number six, Robert Francis O'Rourke, uh, who has lost, as you mentioned, a ton of momentum.
00:29:50.400 He's gone backwards from about 13% to now 2% uh, nationally.
00:29:57.360 He's a two or 3% nationally.
00:29:59.600 I think he was just getting started going backward.
00:30:02.720 He is.
00:30:03.240 You're right.
00:30:03.660 Yeah.
00:30:04.140 He'll be at zero before too long.
00:30:05.820 I, he's got some serious momentum.
00:30:09.920 Did you see the turnout at the church he spoke at yesterday in Iowa?
00:30:15.680 There's like nobody there.
00:30:16.920 No one was there.
00:30:18.420 And it's interesting that it happened to be in Waterloo, Iowa.
00:30:23.240 Um, that may be his Waterloo.
00:30:26.560 He is going the wrong way.
00:30:29.180 Uh, and number five on the list of, uh, Stu's list of, uh, power rankings.
00:30:34.040 Elizabeth Warren, who actually does seem to have some momentum going forward.
00:30:37.640 I thought she was done from the beginning, but she's actually kind of kicked into gear
00:30:41.960 with this.
00:30:42.480 I have a plan for that thing.
00:30:43.820 She's got a plan for everything.
00:30:44.980 And if there's one thing I love, it's a government intervention in every aspect of our lives.
00:30:51.000 I think we're all looking for that right now.
00:30:53.200 Um, so she's at number five at 53.4%. 0.98
00:30:57.040 Uh, Kamala Harris is at number four, 65.9%.
00:31:03.200 Um, she wants equal pay for women. 1.00
00:31:06.240 Of course, she's, she continues to, to beat that dead horse that, uh, women make 79 cents 1.00
00:31:14.720 on the dollar for every, every dollar that men make.
00:31:18.000 And so dishonest.
00:31:20.000 I can't take the dishonesty of, of, of either side, but it's usually the left that is just
00:31:27.560 lying to people.
00:31:29.280 Well, and to the extent that even the Washington post has discredited and given it two or
00:31:35.360 three Pinocchios, they've called it essentially a lie.
00:31:38.160 It's, it's not true.
00:31:39.540 There's too many factors that go in that they don't take into account.
00:31:42.740 And they continue to hammer these numbers that, uh, just aren't accurate at number three.
00:31:48.500 Can I tell you something?
00:31:49.320 Yeah.
00:31:49.700 Hang, wait, can I, can I tell you something?
00:31:51.640 This is so, this is so ridiculous.
00:31:54.260 I just listening to you say, oh, even the Washington post gave it two or three Pinocchios.
00:31:59.480 We're in the fight for our country's life.
00:32:02.040 And we're like, man, they got a Pinocchio on that one.
00:32:04.500 So it's just, it's just ridiculous.
00:32:07.840 And now coming in at number three, here's Casey with the countdown. 0.70
00:32:12.020 It's a little bit surprising, uh, at number three on Stu's power list.
00:32:16.620 And keep in mind, this is not just based on polling, but all kinds of other factors,
00:32:21.140 like 29 other factors.
00:32:22.880 So Bernie Sanders, uh, four out of five doctors recommend, uh, Bernie Sanders for socialists
00:32:28.880 who, who love socialism.
00:32:30.220 And, and it's a, it's a pretty solid choice when you see, uh, the fruits of socialism right
00:32:35.140 now in front of our very eyes, uh, every day on the news and you see that they can't
00:32:40.260 even take showers anymore in Venezuela.
00:32:42.920 Showers are a luxury in Venezuela.
00:32:45.740 But if you want that kind, if you want that here in the United States, vote Bernie Sanders,
00:32:50.680 who's number three, uh, this week on the power rating 69.2%.
00:32:54.680 Can I say, we're going to get into what Bernie Sanders said about socialism and the lies that
00:33:01.840 are coming out of his mouth with the audio proof that he deserves a couple of Pinocchios.
00:33:12.820 Uh, okay.
00:33:13.940 So at number two, this is a surprise.
00:33:16.180 Um, but he, he does seem to have momentum right now.
00:33:20.240 Pete, uh, Buddha judge at number two.
00:33:23.000 Uh, he's up from fourth last time, but so obviously he doesn't have the numbers.
00:33:28.960 I think in, in Iowa, he's got his best showing so far.
00:33:32.020 He was at 14%.
00:33:33.920 If I'm not mistaken, it was Biden 24, uh, Bernie 16, uh, Elizabeth Warren 15 and Buddha judge 0.97
00:33:42.620 14.
00:33:43.340 So that's pretty impressive.
00:33:45.940 He's, this is from a guy who was the mayor of South bend, Indiana.
00:33:50.160 And nobody's ever heard of until what, two, three months ago, but he's really well-spoken.
00:33:55.220 He's really smooth on the campaign trail.
00:33:57.940 Uh, he seems to be reasonable.
00:34:00.860 I think he's just as extreme as the rest, but he just says it better.
00:34:04.320 Yeah, he is.
00:34:05.140 Yeah.
00:34:05.620 He's, he's, he seems normal.
00:34:08.480 However, let me just say this.
00:34:10.260 Uh, we learned this from Barack Hussein Obama.
00:34:13.560 America's never going to elect a guy with a funny last name.
00:34:16.960 We elected a guy with the name of one of our most hated enemies at the time, the guy
00:34:25.660 we're trying to kill.
00:34:27.200 And yet we're close minded.
00:34:29.660 Uh, wait a minute.
00:34:30.660 Barack Hussein Obama, a guy who lived in the Muslim world for.
00:34:37.100 Yeah, but we're too hateful.
00:34:38.980 We're way too hateful.
00:34:40.160 Uh, we hate, we're racist and we're hateful.
00:34:43.840 We're homophobic.
00:34:44.860 Here's a guy who is the mayor of South bend, Indiana, who is, uh, I mean, the darling of
00:34:52.640 the United States of America right now in the media.
00:34:54.980 They love him.
00:34:56.400 Uh, they love his husband.
00:34:58.700 They love him.
00:35:00.400 They love the fact that he's, he's gay and he's running.
00:35:03.140 And, and it just, uh, you know, this identity politics might actually get him nominated in
00:35:08.520 the Democrat party.
00:35:09.620 It, it, I think it could happen.
00:35:11.600 I, at the, at the beginning of this, I didn't think there was any way Pete Buttigieg, uh,
00:35:17.920 would even raise to 5%.
00:35:19.920 And here he is, here he is at number two on the power pole.
00:35:23.860 And then of course, obviously Joe Biden, number one, um, Joe Biden is kind of running, running
00:35:30.700 away and hiding from everybody.
00:35:32.520 He was the only one who wasn't in Iowa over the weekend and late last week.
00:35:38.380 He's going to be there by himself tomorrow.
00:35:40.340 He's not participating in any of these multi-format candidate debates.
00:35:46.240 Well, he's going to be in the debates that are coming out in two weeks, but he's not showing
00:35:49.520 up at these, at these forums, um, in the various States like Iowa.
00:35:54.160 He just, he doesn't believe he has to.
00:35:56.060 And, and, uh, I don't think he does either.
00:35:57.740 I think it's better.
00:35:58.880 The less he hears, the less people hear from him, the better he is.
00:36:02.400 Like, like Hillary. 1.00
00:36:03.680 Remember that was the, I know, but this was the Hillary strategy. 1.00
00:36:07.920 Yes.
00:36:08.340 Remember?
00:36:08.780 And then she got onto her van tour where she was like, Oh my gosh, keep the windows close.
00:36:13.600 I'm surrounded by peasants.
00:36:15.480 I'm surrounded by pig farmers are all about. 1.00
00:36:19.460 You never know when, when we'll spring from the bushes, but it worked in the Democrat party.
00:36:24.720 She got the nomination, you know, it might work for Joe.
00:36:27.580 I don't, I'm hopeful that there's nobody in this field who can beat Trump.
00:36:32.800 Uh, I just gotta, I gotta continue to hang onto that.
00:36:35.400 Otherwise, um, you know, you, you don't hold up much, much hope for the, for the country.
00:36:41.020 Like, if any of these people, including Biden, if any of them win, uh, we're going to have
00:36:48.380 a tough time recovering from that.
00:36:52.680 I don't want to say we don't recover from it because are you and I both Pat, you and
00:36:58.780 I have been the most surprised at what this country has endured.
00:37:02.960 Yes.
00:37:03.740 I mean, yeah, we endured Obama, a Marxist.
00:37:08.440 And, and we were pretty doubtful.
00:37:10.440 I remember this in 2008 and 2009.
00:37:12.820 We, we thought that might be it, but fortunately no president has the power on his own to change
00:37:19.580 America that much.
00:37:20.500 Now he started that fundamental transformation that he talked about five days before the
00:37:25.020 election, but he didn't finish it.
00:37:27.160 It's up to these guys now to, to try to finish it.
00:37:29.720 And that's what they're trying to do.
00:37:30.780 And I, I think they could, one of the most, one of the most disturbing things that I have
00:37:36.220 seen is, you know, that this, uh, campaign to get rid of the electoral college is, is now
00:37:41.500 at 15 States and it's frightening.
00:37:45.800 It has momentum.
00:37:49.540 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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00:38:08.160 So the latest on Bernie Sanders, uh, democratic presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders falsely
00:38:14.880 claimed on Sunday that he has spent his whole life.
00:38:20.040 He has spent his whole life fighting against authoritarian regimes, despite his repeated
00:38:26.200 support for brutal socialist countries.
00:38:29.520 During an interview on CNN state of the union, he said, I think it's important for the American
00:38:35.200 people to understand my definition of democratic socialism.
00:38:41.400 Okay.
00:38:42.200 Well, uh, let, let's, uh, do we have that audio by any chance?
00:38:46.820 Uh, he's always fought against it.
00:38:48.480 I think Bernie says he's always fought against Soviet union, Venezuela.
00:38:51.540 Listen to this.
00:38:52.340 I think it's important for the American people to understand what my definition is of democratic
00:38:57.820 socialism.
00:38:58.380 It's certainly not how Donald Trump, uh, defines it.
00:39:01.960 I've spent my whole life fighting for democracy, fighting against authoritarianism, whether it
00:39:07.160 was in the Soviet union, Venezuela, or any place else.
00:39:10.380 What?
00:39:11.540 Wait, wait, wait a minute.
00:39:13.980 What?
00:39:14.820 Let's just take Venezuela.
00:39:16.900 He has fought against dictators his whole life.
00:39:19.960 Let me play two pieces of audio.
00:39:22.960 Bernie Sanders refuses to tell Jorge Ramos to call Maduro to step down.
00:39:30.020 Before you go, I want to ask about Venezuela.
00:39:32.120 Do you consider Juan Guaido the legitimate president of Venezuela?
00:39:36.040 No, I think what has to happen right now, I think there are serious questions about the
00:39:41.360 recent election.
00:39:42.800 There are many people who feel it was a fraudulent election.
00:39:45.960 Uh, and I think the United States has got to work with the international community.
00:39:49.960 Uh, to make sure that there is a free and fair election, uh, in Venezuela.
00:39:54.760 So is Nicolás Maduro a dictator, Senator, for you?
00:39:57.940 And should he go?
00:40:01.840 All right.
00:40:02.140 I think clearly he has been very, very abusive.
00:40:05.240 That is a decision of the Venezuelan people.
00:40:10.100 That's not fighting against a dictator.
00:40:13.160 That's not fighting against a dictator.
00:40:14.940 Play the next clip, uh, refusing to call Maduro a dictator.
00:40:19.840 Why have you stopped short of calling Maduro of Venezuela a dictator?
00:40:24.500 Well, he, I think it's, it's fair to say that the last election was undemocratic.
00:40:32.000 Uh, but there are still democratic operations taking place in that country.
00:40:37.840 The point is, what I am calling for right now is, uh, internationally supervised free elections.
00:40:47.040 And I do find it interesting that Trump is very concerned about what goes on in Venezuela.
00:40:53.280 But what about the last election that took place in Saudi Arabia?
00:40:57.680 Oh, so he, so he's going after Saudi Arabia, which has been like this since the beginning of time. 0.99
00:41:05.120 Um, and, and that's fine.
00:41:06.540 I don't, I don't want to be in bed with Saudi Arabia and I don't excuse anything that goes on in Saudi Arabia, 1.00
00:41:12.880 but the people had freedom recently in Venezuela and this guy has grabbed power.
00:41:22.860 Now, how does Bernie Sanders look at power?
00:41:26.940 I'm going to play the montage of Geppetto is, is whittling Pinocchios right now.
00:41:33.640 Listen to this montage of how he has fought against these totalitarian regimes his whole life.
00:41:42.860 But I remember for some reason or other being very excited when, when Fidel Castro made the revolution in Cuba.
00:41:48.500 I was a kid and I remember reading that and it was just seemed right and appropriate that poor people were rising up against rather ugly rich people.
00:41:55.340 And there was Kennedy and Nixon talking about which particular method they should use about destroying the revolution.
00:42:04.180 And I remember the irony as we learned the history later on, Kennedy was saying that Nixon was too soft on communism.
00:42:10.680 We pick up a point that Rick was making in Cuba.
00:42:13.140 We should deal firmly with Fidel Castro.
00:42:15.200 And usually I'm sufficiently unemotional not to be sick, but I actually got off in the room and almost left to puke.
00:42:20.820 People are concerned about the state of the world.
00:42:22.480 If many of us are concerned that our kids are not going to grow up and live a normal life because there's a nuclear war, you say, who's to blame?
00:42:28.600 Let's blame somebody.
00:42:29.400 Who do we want to blame?
00:42:30.560 Why is there a policy in this country which is producing more and more nuclear weapons, which is increasingly antagonistic to the Soviet Union, which is trying to destroy Nicaragua?
00:42:39.240 How do we change that policy?
00:42:40.520 I think it's also fair to point out that when we were in Moscow, for example, I think most of the people here also were extremely impressed by their public transportation system.
00:42:50.380 The stations themselves were absolutely beautiful, including many works of art, chandeliers that were beautiful.
00:42:57.900 It was a very, very effective system.
00:43:00.160 Also, I was impressed by the youth programs that they have, their palaces of culture for the young people, a whole variety of programs for young people.
00:43:10.920 How do you find the sincerity of Sandinista leaders?
00:43:14.680 I was impressed.
00:43:15.640 I was impressed by Father Descoto because he is a very gentle, very loving man.
00:43:21.140 Ortega is an impressive guy.
00:43:22.960 Did you have suggestions for them how they could organize their PR a little bit more effectively?
00:43:28.340 I think it's, yes.
00:43:29.380 I mean, the point that I try to make to many of the people that I spoke to is they're getting killed in the American media.
00:43:35.300 They just cannot compete.
00:43:36.420 Reagan and his people are so sophisticated.
00:43:38.020 They own the airwaves, of course.
00:43:39.100 Reagan, the media, every time Reagan gives them a photo opportunity, thousands, thank you, Mr. President.
00:43:44.180 Thank you very much for telling us another lie.
00:43:48.240 You know, the media, of course, is not allowed to ask sharp questions of the president.
00:43:51.440 That's not allowed.
00:43:52.040 And, you know, my point to Ortega is they are not getting their message of what they are trying to do out to the American people.
00:44:02.320 Okay, so there's, let me just, let me just summarize.
00:44:05.260 He was very excited that there was somebody that was going to crush, quote, the very ugly rich people in Cuba. 0.96
00:44:14.260 He had to leave the room to puke when people said, I think Castro is a dictator and what are we going to do about it?
00:44:24.320 He had to leave the room to puke.
00:44:26.880 Any nuclear war would be the fault of the United States. 0.72
00:44:30.520 But that's only because the Soviet Union had beautiful transportation.
00:44:36.120 You know, just beautiful, very effective transportation.
00:44:39.200 You know, it's like saying to the Germans, yeah, but the train system they developed was remarkable.
00:44:47.220 Yeah, it would all lead into death camps, but it was a remarkable train system.
00:44:52.020 Because in his case, he said, because they had chandeliers.
00:44:57.140 Oh, okay.
00:44:59.400 Well, did you see any of the prisons with the political prisoners?
00:45:02.440 Did they have chandeliers?
00:45:03.440 He said they also had young people programs, which I think should be, I believe it's pronounced pro-grom, but maybe it's just me.
00:45:13.100 Ortega was a good guy, and the American media was in bed with Ronald Reagan.
00:45:18.880 For anyone, and I know it's fewer and fewer, for anyone who thinks the American media was in bed with Reagan,
00:45:26.900 that's like saying the American media is in bed with Donald Trump.
00:45:30.300 They hated him, hated him.
00:45:35.780 So, I want to remind you his definition of democratic socialism.
00:45:42.780 Because he says, you know, it's not what Trump says.
00:45:46.440 He's making me into a cartoon character.
00:45:48.780 Really?
00:45:49.720 Because I want to show you the friends around Bernie Sanders.
00:45:55.220 These are the people running his campaign.
00:45:58.120 His campaign director is an absolute Islamist anti-Semite.
00:46:04.880 He is a guy who flirts with the most radical of radicals.
00:46:11.620 His foreign affairs director is an absolute anti-Semite.
00:46:15.440 In fact, those two, the campaign manager and the foreign affairs guy, they were asked,
00:46:21.580 by the Obama administration, can you guys get away from us because you're writing anti-Semitic things on your blog posts?
00:46:31.020 His speech writer is a democratic socialist that believes in the redistribution of money and land and the takeover of industry.
00:46:43.400 Well, that's about as Soviet as you can get. 0.99
00:46:45.800 His national organizing president was arrested in 2002 for organizing and participating in an anti-IMF and World Bank,
00:46:59.140 which I, you know, look, I don't like those two organizations either myself, but also part of Justice Democrats.
00:47:05.760 They wrote the New Green Deal. 0.95
00:47:09.380 She taught leftists in Spain how to organize and how to get on the streets.
00:47:16.040 She also organized the anti-Semitic socialists by the name of Jeremy Corbyn in England,
00:47:27.940 which, if you know anything about him, he's a radical socialist.
00:47:32.280 The political director for Bernie Sanders is a socialist from Venezuela who says,
00:47:38.900 no, at least the people in Venezuela can eat.
00:47:42.160 The people in New Jersey are far worse off than Venezuela, which is, I mean, Geppetto, can you make another Pinocchio, please?
00:47:51.400 She organized the Working Families Party, which basically is ACORN again, SCIU.
00:47:59.700 She's put all of these groups together and she knows how to get the ground to mobilize.
00:48:06.560 She is the one that has put a lot of these policies into practice.
00:48:11.240 The abortion policy in New York, she was responsible for a lot of that happening. 1.00
00:48:17.160 And the senior policy advisor is a professor.
00:48:21.660 She's a sociologist at Fordham University.
00:48:25.940 She not only is agreeing with Venezuela,
00:48:30.960 but she was behind the scenes and may be one of the organizing principles of Occupy Wall Street. 0.99
00:48:40.600 And the only reason why we say that is because of past interviews.
00:48:45.040 And that's pretty much what she said when she went to the University of Tehran in Iran
00:48:50.860 to badmouth America and to hold up Occupy Wall Street.
00:48:57.100 That's those are the that's his advisory board and the people actually running his campaign.
00:49:03.720 So if he tries to make himself out to be,
00:49:06.780 oh, I'm just I'm just a guy like you.
00:49:08.780 Well, shucks.
00:49:10.400 I was on the back of my tractor just the other day thinking about how much I love this country.
00:49:14.700 Don't buy it.
00:49:18.240 Democratic socialists always try to do the same thing.
00:49:22.480 And even when they fail, they'll say it was a failed socialist experiment.
00:49:27.660 Show me the socialist experiments that work.
00:49:34.000 And I'm not talking about big welfare states,
00:49:36.300 because if you look to Sweden and that's not what any of these people working with Bernie Sanders
00:49:43.240 or Bernie Sanders wants,
00:49:45.680 they want an end in their own words to the free market system.
00:49:51.220 Sweden and the Netherlands has a free market system.
00:49:56.260 It is capitalist, more capitalist at this point than we are.
00:50:01.840 It just happens to have a giant socialist welfare state.
00:50:06.640 There's a huge difference, huge difference.
00:50:09.880 And they're trying to tell you that there is no difference.
00:50:12.980 There is.
00:50:14.600 Democratic socialists here in America want to end the free market system.
00:50:20.020 No ifs, ands or buts.
00:50:21.500 They're on record saying it.
00:50:23.060 So please, don't tell me Bernie Sanders about how you work so hard against people like the Soviet Union.
00:50:32.180 You practically were taking a paycheck from the Soviet Union.
00:50:37.000 You tried to prop them up and vilify America every step of the way.
00:50:45.500 Now, maybe in some places in America, that will make you qualified for being president.
00:50:53.860 But not in any place that I've been recently outside of a city.
00:51:01.920 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:51:04.020 So we're talking about the most believed conspiracy theories in the United States.
00:51:20.000 And the number one conspiracy theory is at 47%.
00:51:25.940 And I don't think you're ever going to stop this one from people believing that it's it's real.
00:51:33.540 OK, and that is that Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone in assassinating JFK.
00:51:39.100 But I think that can go many places.
00:51:42.680 Now, the Warren Commission said he absolutely acted alone.
00:51:45.800 But that's exactly what they want you to believe.
00:51:49.960 I don't I don't lose any sleep on this and I could go either way and I'd be fine.
00:51:56.440 But I'm not sure if we got the truth.
00:51:58.640 But I I would tend to fall on the Oswald acted alone.
00:52:06.080 However, there were other people that may have aided in some way or another, even if they weren't connected to Oswald, because he did have so many enemies.
00:52:19.260 Kennedy had a lot of enemies and they had a lot of power.
00:52:24.560 And so but I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist on JFK.
00:52:31.540 Do you?
00:52:33.120 Pretty close.
00:52:34.720 I think I'm pretty close.
00:52:36.460 Because really, yeah, I think there was, you know, they've said there was nobody else.
00:52:41.160 He acted alone.
00:52:42.160 That's what the Warren Commission came out with.
00:52:44.120 But I don't believe that.
00:52:45.260 So is that is that conspiracy theory?
00:52:48.680 I think somebody else had something to do with it, whether it be the Russians or the mob again or LBJ.
00:52:55.360 Let's just say let's just say it was the Russians and the Cubans because they would have been the same thing at the time. 0.81
00:53:01.060 You know, I could see them winding him up.
00:53:04.220 And saying, you know, you should do this or you should do that.
00:53:08.940 But sending over another shooter or things like that.
00:53:13.860 I just don't just all of the the Zapruder film to me is seals it up that there wasn't a second shooter.
00:53:22.940 I know that opens it up for everybody else.
00:53:24.860 But, you know, I saw somebody say and this is so dangerous with these digital fakes.
00:53:29.740 Somebody told me the other day, have you seen the Zapruder film?
00:53:33.020 If you look, you will see that the driver actually bends down, picks something up and it's a gun.
00:53:40.860 I've heard that.
00:53:41.460 And he shoots him.
00:53:42.260 You don't believe that happened?
00:53:47.080 You don't believe a driver?
00:53:48.220 No, I don't.
00:53:48.840 Huh?
00:53:49.160 No, I don't.
00:53:49.900 That's weird.
00:53:50.520 However, I will tell you this.
00:53:51.820 A guy with very high clearance.
00:53:54.860 He was one of the first guys for the Bay of Pigs.
00:53:57.940 He was there.
00:53:58.960 He knew Bobby Kennedy.
00:54:00.260 He knew John F. Kennedy.
00:54:02.700 And he knew Che.
00:54:04.640 He was the guy sent down by the CIA to represent the United States on Che Guevara, on capturing him and killing him.
00:54:14.460 And we're having a conversation in one of my podcasts.
00:54:18.240 And in the middle of it, he just comes out with this.
00:54:23.040 Listen.
00:54:23.780 Bobby Kennedy was different than his brother.
00:54:26.140 He seemed like a decent guy.
00:54:28.520 When we were working the operation in Central America with our team in Costa Rica and Nicaragua running raids against Cuba in 64, 65,
00:54:35.920 Bobby Kennedy was what liasoned between us and the CIA for that operation.
00:54:40.280 And when the president was assassinated, our team went to see him in Washington.
00:54:43.500 And the first two words that he told him said, my brother had two big enemies, the mafia and Fidel Castro.
00:54:49.020 And I believe it was the last one who assassinated him.
00:54:53.200 And what do you think?
00:54:54.840 I think so.
00:54:55.520 I think that the president...
00:54:56.800 So you don't think that it was Lee Harvey Oswald?
00:54:59.080 It was Lee Harvey Oswald with another shooter who probably was a Cuban captain who was an expert in shooting, 0.99
00:55:07.180 and also spoke fluent English, Fabian Escalante, who was in Dallas that day.
00:55:13.560 And then it's documented that he left in a private plane for Mexico after the assassination.
00:55:17.400 Of course, even I saw one time in the paper, one assistant of President Johnson claim that they did have information from the Bureau of the Cuban participation on the assassination of the president.
00:55:28.800 And they had to cover it up for national security reasons.
00:55:31.460 If they had to admit that a country like Cuba had participated in the assassination of an American president, they had no choice but to invade.
00:55:37.820 I mean, is that not incredible?
00:55:41.960 Wow.
00:55:42.300 I mean, he has the name of the guy.
00:55:44.180 Yeah.
00:55:45.100 And said he was in Dallas at the time.
00:55:47.260 Yeah.
00:55:47.560 I mean, you could probably...
00:55:48.020 And it was just like...
00:55:50.140 And that was just a...
00:55:51.420 Oh, yeah, by the way.
00:55:52.860 Oh, yeah.
00:55:53.240 I've got the evidence on the Kennedy assassination.
00:55:56.620 Wow.
00:55:57.700 I looked at him and I was like, I don't know if that helps your credibility or hurts your credibility, but thank you very much for sharing.
00:56:04.080 Yeah.
00:56:04.260 So now here's the second biggest conspiracy theory that we believe in the United States.
00:56:11.680 Twenty-nine percent believe there is a...
00:56:15.100 Now listen to this.
00:56:16.540 Believes there is a deep state working against the U.S. President Donald Trump and his supporters.
00:56:23.900 That's not even a conspiracy theory, is it?
00:56:27.160 I don't think so.
00:56:28.080 I mean, I believe that.
00:56:29.760 It just depends on how you...
00:56:31.640 If you're defining deep state as a star chamber, you're crazy.
00:56:38.280 But if you believe that it is the old guard, for instance, the State Department, and if you believe that it's the State Department as part of it, there's evidence that they did this to Truman over Israel.
00:57:01.140 I mean, they got into a fight with him over Israel and they almost took him out.
00:57:05.040 And they said they were going to.
00:57:07.120 And I think there is clear evidence on many presidents.
00:57:13.640 I mean, George Bush said to me in the Oval Office, don't worry.
00:57:19.200 Whoever sits behind that desk is going to be advised by the same people and they're going to give them the same options.
00:57:27.380 And they'll realize quickly that that's the only thing they can do.
00:57:31.440 Well, if you have that kind of power over any president, you're not going to give that up.
00:57:38.500 Some guy comes in and says, you know what?
00:57:39.940 I'm not listening to you.
00:57:41.000 I don't care what you say.
00:57:43.120 Of course they're going to do everything they can to destroy that guy.
00:57:46.180 Is that unreasonable to believe?
00:57:49.400 No, I don't think so.
00:57:51.000 But like you said, if you chalk it up to the Illuminati or, you know, New World Order stuff like the Council of Foreign Relations, that kind of stuff, then you're going to be labeled a conspiracy theorist.
00:58:03.900 But if it's just the old guard, that's not his conspiracy theory.
00:58:10.720 Now you've taken me down the road of the Council of Foreign Relations, which I don't know anything about.
00:58:19.600 You weren't thinking of that before, were you?
00:58:21.600 No, I mean, I don't believe the Council of Foreign.
00:58:25.820 I don't know about the Council of Foreign Relations at this time.
00:58:28.920 I just know the history.
00:58:30.280 And that is exactly what they were supposed to do.
00:58:33.200 They were supposed to take academia and the media and put them together so they could teach the American people how stupid they were and how much they needed these certain policies.
00:58:47.320 Right.
00:58:48.140 Right.
00:58:48.960 So that is kind of beyond the, that is kind of in the deep state category.
00:58:56.680 It is.
00:58:57.380 Would you?
00:58:57.940 Yeah, I think so.
00:58:59.060 Yeah.
00:58:59.280 So that makes you a conspiracy theorist right there, huh?
00:59:04.720 I guess, I guess with the deep state thing, the government hiding aliens, I don't believe, but I do think they know more.
00:59:15.280 9-11 was an inside job.
00:59:17.360 I don't believe that.
00:59:18.460 But I do believe that Sandy Berger took some things out of his underpants that I sure would like to know what it was about right after 9-11.
00:59:25.320 Oh, absolutely.
00:59:27.460 I mean, everybody knows that.
00:59:29.380 I mean, that's not even because that's fact.
00:59:30.360 Yeah, I mean, he was arrested.
00:59:31.460 That's fact.
00:59:32.140 Yeah.
00:59:32.660 So what was he taking out?
00:59:34.300 I'm sure it wasn't recipes.
00:59:37.060 But it sure was interesting, wasn't it, that both sides were in on that?
00:59:40.640 That everybody wanted Sandy Berger off.
00:59:43.160 Clinton and Bush.
00:59:43.500 Yeah.
00:59:44.080 Uh-huh.
00:59:44.580 Yep.
00:59:45.320 Clinton and Bush.
00:59:46.360 Yeah.
00:59:46.800 Climate change is a hoax.
00:59:48.300 I don't think climate change is a hoax.
00:59:50.180 I think the solutions are a hoax.
00:59:52.460 Uh, Illuminati secretly controls the world.
00:59:56.880 No, I don't think so.
00:59:58.260 But I do believe that there are those people.
00:59:59.580 You believe it's the Bilderbergers, right? 0.99
01:00:02.460 No, it's the Whataburgers. 0.97
01:00:03.740 Oh, okay.
01:00:04.260 All right.
01:00:04.480 It's the Whataburgers. 0.98
01:00:05.320 Yeah.
01:00:06.260 Um, the government is using chemtrails.
01:00:08.880 No.
01:00:09.480 And the moon landing was faked.
01:00:11.980 No.
01:00:13.260 So I guess, I mean, I...
01:00:17.180 Kind of JFK.
01:00:18.360 I'm...
01:00:18.960 Kind of deep state.
01:00:20.180 Right?
01:00:20.980 So the top two.
01:00:22.460 Kind of aliens.
01:00:24.000 And kind of aliens.
01:00:25.620 Wow.
01:00:27.460 What was the percentage on the...
01:00:28.820 What's the percentage on the aliens?
01:00:32.020 Aliens, uh, 27.
01:00:34.160 But again, that's not thinking there's alien bodies being, you know, with autopsies.
01:00:38.980 I would...
01:00:39.460 Right.
01:00:40.220 I would like to...
01:00:41.120 You know what?
01:00:41.780 I'm going to put together a poll on these things, but I'm going to word them the way I
01:00:47.500 would word them.
01:00:48.180 Mm-hmm.
01:00:48.820 That climate change is real, uh, uh, but climate is always changing.
01:00:55.840 I don't believe the, uh, solutions currently proposed are about climate.
01:01:03.380 They're about power.
01:01:04.220 However, uh, in, uh, 9-11 was not an inside job.
01:01:10.440 However, there were those in power that didn't want to show relationships, and that's why Sandy
01:01:17.900 Berger did what he did.
01:01:19.440 The government is not hiding aliens in Area 51.
01:01:24.100 However, I believe they know more about UFOs than they have let on.
01:01:32.840 I mean, if you word them that way...
01:01:35.120 Yeah.
01:01:36.020 ...it's not really a conspiracy theory, is it?
01:01:39.700 Uh, not to me, but I think most people would say yes.
01:01:42.320 Yes, that's a conspiracy theory.
01:01:43.520 Do you think so?
01:01:44.060 Uh-huh.
01:01:44.900 I think if you don't believe the status quo, the, uh, the Warren Commission on, on JFK,
01:01:51.760 then you believe a conspiracy theory.
01:01:53.880 Don't you?
01:01:54.540 Isn't that...
01:01:54.880 Well, that one I kind of do.
01:01:56.080 Yeah.
01:01:56.220 That one I kind of...
01:01:56.820 That one I do.
01:01:57.380 Me too.
01:01:57.880 That one I do.
01:01:58.480 And if you don't believe the consensus on climate change, you're a conspiracy theorist.
01:02:03.020 What, what you said is just, it's not okay.
01:02:05.320 It's not okay to believe that, yes, it's warmed, but it's not catastrophic, and, and it's
01:02:10.860 not all man-caused.
01:02:11.980 You have to believe all of those things, you have to be in lockstep with the left, or you're
01:02:17.100 a conspiracy theorist.
01:02:18.880 Correct.
01:02:19.580 And that's the problem with all of these.
01:02:21.220 Yeah.
01:02:21.420 I generally agree that these are conspiracy theories.
01:02:26.920 However, there's nuance to each of those that make me go, well, I'm not really sure.
01:02:32.480 Right.
01:02:32.620 And isn't being skeptical of the establishment line, shouldn't it be the liberals that would
01:02:40.180 be the closest to that?
01:02:41.740 It used to be pretty much mandatory.
01:02:43.920 It was.
01:02:44.600 Right.
01:02:45.260 Yeah.
01:02:45.820 And, and for good reason.
01:02:47.120 We started this conversation because of, we're, we're both watching Chernobyl, and it's really
01:02:52.640 fantastic.
01:02:53.720 Really fantastic.
01:02:55.040 And two things come out.
01:02:56.640 One, the Russians are going to remake it themselves. 1.00
01:02:59.560 They're really pissed at the way we made that movie.
01:03:02.800 Which I thought it was handled pretty fairly for them.
01:03:05.100 Didn't you?
01:03:06.000 I thought so too.
01:03:07.020 Yeah.
01:03:07.340 I thought Gorbachev looked good.
01:03:08.860 Yeah, he did.
01:03:09.760 He looked fine.
01:03:11.000 I think the guy who I hated at first, the guy from the council, I thought he looked really
01:03:15.740 good.
01:03:16.200 Yeah.
01:03:16.360 And all of them are just working within the system that they, they didn't create.
01:03:20.800 And if they would have done anything about that, they all would have been executed.
01:03:24.720 Yes.
01:03:25.400 So, I mean, what are you going to do in that system?
01:03:29.140 But they're going to remake it and they're going to remake it as the CIA was the one who,
01:03:34.360 who blew up Chernobyl, which is ridiculous.
01:03:37.620 Um, so we started on that and the other point on Chernobyl, if you watch it, is the state
01:03:46.500 is never wrong.
01:03:48.820 And that's the difference between us and other countries like this former Soviet Union.
01:03:55.880 You don't, you don't have to believe what the state says.
01:04:00.460 You don't, you don't, you're not shut down by the state.
01:04:03.760 In fact, you become more skeptical if the state tells you, uh, this is settled and we're not
01:04:09.780 talking about it anymore.
01:04:12.020 How, how did we get here to where it's, it's politically incorrect to, uh, question a government
01:04:20.740 that has done all kinds of things in the last hundred years that have not been what we
01:04:27.460 thought they were.
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