Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Pat Gray ｜ 6⧸10⧸19
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Summary
The New York Times explains how the powerful right is controlling YouTube and silencing conservative voices. Plus, a story about a crazed gunman with a gun and a conspiracy theory about Chernobyl and the CIA. And a look at the numbers behind the Biden and Beto campaign in Iowa.
Transcript
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It's Monday, podcasters. We've got a great show for you. I'm up at the ranch in Idaho. Pat was back home manning the place, but we had some great discussions.
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The first part is coming from an article, the making of a YouTube radical. Meanwhile, the rest of social media picking off conservative voices one by one. But really, it's the very powerful right that is controlling YouTube.
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It's an amazing story that we have to break up into two days. So tomorrow will be the finish of it. And also, we went over the numbers of what was happening in Iowa.
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The Biden and the Bernie lead in Iowa. Beto is battling in Waterloo. And we all know how Waterloo ended.
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And another day closer to President Trump's re-election, in my opinion, because Sanders is now trying to say that he hated the Soviet Union.
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That was a bad dictatorship. And that's not what he means by socialism. We show you the evidence. That's exactly what he means by that.
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And then in Hour 3, we talk a little bit about the show Chernobyl on HBO, which is tremendous.
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And the conspiracy theories here in the United States, because this was brought up by Chernobyl, because the Soviets are mad at the HBO version of Chernobyl.
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And what they're going to do is remake it, except they're going to remake it and tell the truth that it was the CIA that blew up Chernobyl.
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So we talked about conspiracy theories. It's a great podcast you don't want to miss.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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So yesterday, in the New York Times, probably going to take me an hour to go through.
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So in the New York Times, the making of a YouTube radical, how the site's algorithms played into the hands of the alt-right.
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Now, what was the big news last week on the right?
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I don't even get other Glenn Beck videos in my algorithm, okay?
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When I go to YouTube and I look to watch something of mine or Stephen Crowder or whatever, I don't get Blaze recommendations.
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I'm telling you, and I mean this sincerely, the only thing I seem to get are Jay Leno videos.
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Only the people on the right are brainwashing people.
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So how the site's algorithms played in the hands of the alt-right.
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Caleb Kane pulled a Glock pistol from his waistband, took out the magazine, and casually tossed both onto the kitchen counter.
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I bought it the day after I got my first death threat.
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Now, there's absolutely no questioning of his right to carry a gun.
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Now, how many times would the New York Times, if it were me, and they wrote this article about me,
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and I said, yeah, I just, I bought my gun the first time I got a death threat, which I did,
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and I, you know, casually threw the magazine and the gun onto the counter.
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Or would they use that to make me into an extremist immediately?
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With this guy, they make it into a guy under siege.
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The threats, Mr. Kane explained, came from the right-wing trolls in response to a video he had posted on YouTube a few days earlier.
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In the video, he told the story of how, as a liberal college dropout struggling to find his place in the world,
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he had gotten sucked into a vortex of far-right politics on YouTube.
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I felt, I just fell down this alt-right rabbit hole, he said.
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McCain, 26, recently swore off the alt-right, which, Mr. McCain, I swore off the alt-right a long, long time ago.
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It doesn't seem the New York Times seems to have any interest in me swearing off the alt-right,
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or Ben Shapiro, who they define as alt-right, or Stephen Crowder, who they define as alt-right, swearing off the alt-right.
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Mr. McCain recently swore off the alt-right five years after discovering it, and he has become a vocal critic of it.
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He's scarred by his experience of being radicalized by what he calls a decentralized cult of far-right.
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Decentralized. Now, wait a minute. A decentralized cult. Where have I heard decentralized cult before?
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Decentralized. Oh, oh, oh, oh. You mean like Occupy Wall Street? That's decentralized. That's leaderless.
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Oh, oh, the guys who wear the masks and are burning buildings down, what do you call them?
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Oh, Antifa. That's right. They're decentralized.
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That's right. They're decentralized, and they have no leadership, too.
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That's the first time I've read about the decentralized cult of the far-right.
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Oh, oh, oh, I didn't finish. It's the far-right YouTube personalities.
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Oh, so it's like Stephen Crowder and Dave Rubin and Justin or Jordan Peterson, who's also defined as alt-right by the New York Times.
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So, those guys, they're not coordinating. Oh, no. They're decentralized. There is no ringleader.
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He said they convinced him that Western civilization was under threat.
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How could you possibly say this nation and the Western world is under threat? That's ridiculous.
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Besides, you know, jailing people for positions, running people out of their jobs or their community because of their positions,
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because of the financial problems that we've had, because of the media,
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because of governments all over the world not listening to the people,
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Well, we'll just kind of brush that out of the wrong way.
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What could possibly lead us to believe that the Western way of life is under attack?
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Other than the growing number of people that say they want to destroy the free market system?
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Other than the growing number of Islamists that say they want to destroy the Western way of life?
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What crazy theory do you have that shows that we're in trouble?
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They tried to convince him that Western civilization was under threat from Muslim immigrants.
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I don't think I've ever said it's under attack from Muslim immigrants.
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We don't know who people are who are in our own country.
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Just last week, the biggest group of Africans came across our border.
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I just told you last week that a bunch of people came from the Congo.
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They're now living on the streets in San Antonio.
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Does anybody know how to speak French that can work with a homeless here?
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Now, I'm not saying either one of those groups are terrorist groups.
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How did a group of people that don't speak a common tongue on this continent in a from a poor country in Africa gather up enough money to to go into an airport and fly on that flying machine that most likely none of them have ever flown on anywhere?
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Then somehow or another, without speaking a word of English or Spanish, they got over our border.
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They should be working for NASA because there's some obvious rocket science that they understand that we don't.
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I wish we had somebody who spoke French so we can find out how they did that all by themselves and now are seemingly so hopeless and so helpless that they're just wasting away on our sidewalks.
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They also say that they convinced him that America is under threat from cultural Marxists.
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Marxism and the free market system, they go hand in hand.
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It's like you got chocolate in my peanut butter.
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No, no, you've got peanut butter in my chocolate.
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I kept falling deeper and deeper into this, and it appeared to me, because it made me, it gave me a sense of belonging, that it was good.
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Over the years of reporting on internet culture, this is from the reporter, I've heard countless versions of McCain's story.
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A nameless young man, usually white, frequently interested in video games, visits YouTube, just looking for direction or distraction.
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But he is seduced by a community of far-right creators.
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How dare you say they're trying to recruit people!
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You are so anti-Islam, I can't be your friend anymore.
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In fact, I should start a group to make sure you're banned from everything.
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Some men discover far-right videos by accident, while others seek them out.
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Some travel all the way to neo-Nazism, while others stop at mild forms of bigotry.
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So some make it all the way to National Socialism.
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I think National Socialism is Marxist, which would be on the left.
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That college brainwashing almost was just ineffective there for a minute.
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Nazis who were socialists, they're on the right.
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The common thread in many of these stories is YouTube recommendation algorithm.
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Now Glenn, you don't really want to see videos of you or the Blaze or some of your friends and what they're saying.
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You want to see yet another Jay Leno garage video.
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Because that's where your time should be spent.
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Not looking for any kind of political discussion.
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If you want the young Turks, we can serve that up.
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This is not far from reality, as you will find in this beautiful front page story on the New York Times.
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It takes three whole pages to tell us exactly what's happening at YouTube.
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And what YouTube and others are now starting to do about it.
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That's a 74% off of what they would normally charge.
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When you get to the search bar, search for the word Beck, and it will take you to the page with this special.
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So make sure you use the search bar and search for the name Beck, B-E-C-K,
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and you'll find this special at omahasteaks.com.
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All right, so what are these young boys who are being trapped by the alt-right?
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The radicalization of young men is driven by a complex stew of emotional, economic, and political elements.
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But critics, and independent researchers, say YouTube has inadvertently created a dangerous on-ramp to extremism by combining two things.
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A business model that rewards provocative videos with exposure and advertising dollar,
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and an algorithm that guides users down personalized paths meant to keep them glued to their screens.
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So what YouTube did, help me out here because I'm a dummy.
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What YouTube did is they created something where the creators were incentivized to do things that were more and more outrageous,
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if I understand this right, so people would come back for more.
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That is totally new because that's not like the old media, you know?
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That's not like TV or movies or, you know, Survivor or anything like that.
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That's not like, that doesn't happen in cable news.
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CNN, MSNBC, Fox, they never do anything that pushes the envelope just to get ratings.
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I've never heard anybody in the mainstream media, even the New York Times, I've never heard anybody saying they're just doing this for ratings.
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So this is a totally new concept that YouTube came up with.
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There's no one who could have thought that one through and went, well, wait a minute.
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That might be incentivizing people to do crazier stuff, you know, like putting a video.
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Putting a video of like some kid on a trampoline jumping off a roof onto the trampoline.
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That's never going to encourage other kids to do that.
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It has been a useful recruiting tool for far right extremism.
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YouTube has been able to fly under the radar because until recently, no one thought of it as a place of radicalization happening.
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I didn't see what my kids were watching on YouTube and go, good God almighty, what are you watching?
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Remember when you were growing up and you were like seven or eight and you saw your first hardcore porn?
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When you were just accidentally, you know, just stumbled in and you saw just horrible bestiality videos and things like that?
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But it's where young people are getting their information and entertainment.
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And it's a space where creators are broadcasting political content that at times is overtly white supremacist.
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And I want you just to think of all of the things we've learned from the New York Times so far.
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Because there's no other problems happening with this.
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This is, this is, they created a space where everyone could express themselves.
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But then people on the right started to express themselves and it became popular.
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And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray Unleashed.
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Well, whether we like it or not, we know what the press are, are going to do when it gets down to it with, with Donald Trump.
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But right now they seem pretty intent on destroying Bernie Sanders.
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We're going to take a look at the current polls.
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Joe Biden leads the pack and Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg are in close competition for second place.
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Now, 24% of Iowa's likely Democrat caucus goers say former vice president is Biden is their first choice for president.
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Sanders is the first choice for 16% of poll respondents, while Warren, the Massachusetts senator, crazy woman, and Buttigieg, mayor of mayor of South Bend, are at 15 and 14% respectively.
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Another candidate that cracks the double digits is no one.
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California Senator Kamala Harris comes closest at 7%.
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Klobuchar comes in at 2%, as does O'Rourke, who says, we're just getting started.
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I mean, it's a, it's a long road, but you happen to be on the road to nowhere.
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But, you know, I know you're just, you're just getting started on your trip to nowhere.
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Now, this is what is, this is what's happening.
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The, the, the interesting thing is Warren is the first choice among 15% of the voters.
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Second choice among 14 and 32% are actively considering her, according to the latest polls.
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Warren is also neck and neck with Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg.
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The problem is, is that Sanders doesn't have a lot of people looking at him outside of the pool.
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So, he's coming in second, but he's not, he's not very many people's second choice.
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Now, Stu does his, his weekly or, or bi-monthly look at the polls at this point.
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And he takes into consideration a lot of different things.
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He's, he takes into consideration polling, uh, the prediction markets, fundraising.
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I'm not sure what all goes into fundamentals, media coverage, and more.
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He's, he takes into account like 30 different categories.
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And then he rates the candidates on a score from zero to 100.
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And coming in at number 24, making his debut on the charts, is, uh, Mike Gravel.
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Uh, Mike Gravel has not been around for a while.
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In fact, the month that Ronald Reagan moved into the White House for the first time,
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Mike Gravel was leaving his last government job.
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He was a senator from Alaska from 1969 to 1981 and has not been in public office since.
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And when we say drafted, somebody asked him to run on social media once.
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Meaning, when he takes office, he'd be close to 91.
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Well, at least he's not just another white man.
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Well, he, at this point, at this point, he's turning a little greenish.
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But when asked what he'd do to change the country, Gravel was quoted as saying,
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You know, what we should do is find the oldest living human being in the United States
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You know, at least then, he'd have an excuse for all the madness that spills out of him.
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Well, let's, let's then move up to, what, the top 10?
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Coming in at number 10, it's, it's a long way to scroll.
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Uh, Julian Castro is the first one in the top 10 at number 10.
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Um, now his claim to fame is he was mayor of San Antonio years ago, and then he was
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Your big campaign issue is we're going to do the minimum wage at $15 an hour.
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So, uh, good luck for closing down every single fast food joint in America.
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No, I, have you been to McDonald's lately that barely needs people anymore?
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Uh, I will tell you that I don't think that's his, I don't think it's his big deal.
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I think his big deal is I'm young, I'm good looking, and I've been groomed by the Obama
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administration to be a young, good looking Hispanic candidate.
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He's, he's really though, despite all of that, that he has going for him, and he did seem
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to be, uh, he did seem to be like the heir apparent to Obama for, at one point, they, they
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used to talk about him as if he was, he was the next big thing.
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And that just hasn't really materialized for him yet.
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You know, I don't think you can do that anymore.
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I was watching a speech by Mitt Romney and I thought that seems like so 1965.
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It just doesn't seem like those are the kind of people that are going to be leading us.
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I think she's out of this thing before it even starts.
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Amy Klobuchar is at number eight at 41.9 rating.
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Now she's supposed to be the moderate in this race,
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but nobody knows anything about her unless you live in Minnesota.
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If it was up to him, he is, he was said so he would, uh, he would go door to door perhaps
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and remove guns from people's homes, which would, well, with the way, the way things are going
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now, it will be up to the next president, whether we have guns or not.
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I mean, that's kind of the system we're headed for is like, Hey, what do you want to do today?
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Oh, let's, let's ban all people who are left-handed.
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At number six, Robert Francis O'Rourke, uh, who has lost, as you mentioned, a ton of momentum.
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He's gone backwards from about 13% to now 2% uh, nationally.
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I think he was just getting started going backward.
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Did you see the turnout at the church he spoke at yesterday in Iowa?
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And it's interesting that it happened to be in Waterloo, Iowa.
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Uh, and number five on the list of, uh, Stu's list of, uh, power rankings.
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Elizabeth Warren, who actually does seem to have some momentum going forward.
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I thought she was done from the beginning, but she's actually kind of kicked into gear
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And if there's one thing I love, it's a government intervention in every aspect of our lives.
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Of course, she's, she continues to, to beat that dead horse that, uh, women make 79 cents
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on the dollar for every, every dollar that men make.
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I can't take the dishonesty of, of, of either side, but it's usually the left that is just
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Well, and to the extent that even the Washington post has discredited and given it two or
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three Pinocchios, they've called it essentially a lie.
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There's too many factors that go in that they don't take into account.
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And they continue to hammer these numbers that, uh, just aren't accurate at number three.
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I just listening to you say, oh, even the Washington post gave it two or three Pinocchios.
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And we're like, man, they got a Pinocchio on that one.
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And now coming in at number three, here's Casey with the countdown.
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It's a little bit surprising, uh, at number three on Stu's power list.
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And keep in mind, this is not just based on polling, but all kinds of other factors,
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So Bernie Sanders, uh, four out of five doctors recommend, uh, Bernie Sanders for socialists
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And, and it's a, it's a pretty solid choice when you see, uh, the fruits of socialism right
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now in front of our very eyes, uh, every day on the news and you see that they can't
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But if you want that kind, if you want that here in the United States, vote Bernie Sanders,
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who's number three, uh, this week on the power rating 69.2%.
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Can I say, we're going to get into what Bernie Sanders said about socialism and the lies that
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are coming out of his mouth with the audio proof that he deserves a couple of Pinocchios.
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Um, but he, he does seem to have momentum right now.
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Uh, he's up from fourth last time, but so obviously he doesn't have the numbers.
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I think in, in Iowa, he's got his best showing so far.
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If I'm not mistaken, it was Biden 24, uh, Bernie 16, uh, Elizabeth Warren 15 and Buddha judge
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He's, this is from a guy who was the mayor of South bend, Indiana.
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And nobody's ever heard of until what, two, three months ago, but he's really well-spoken.
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I think he's just as extreme as the rest, but he just says it better.
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America's never going to elect a guy with a funny last name.
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We elected a guy with the name of one of our most hated enemies at the time, the guy
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Barack Hussein Obama, a guy who lived in the Muslim world for.
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Here's a guy who is the mayor of South bend, Indiana, who is, uh, I mean, the darling of
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the United States of America right now in the media.
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They love the fact that he's, he's gay and he's running.
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And, and it just, uh, you know, this identity politics might actually get him nominated in
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I, at the, at the beginning of this, I didn't think there was any way Pete Buttigieg, uh,
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And here he is, here he is at number two on the power pole.
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And then of course, obviously Joe Biden, number one, um, Joe Biden is kind of running, running
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He was the only one who wasn't in Iowa over the weekend and late last week.
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He's not participating in any of these multi-format candidate debates.
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Well, he's going to be in the debates that are coming out in two weeks, but he's not showing
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up at these, at these forums, um, in the various States like Iowa.
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The less he hears, the less people hear from him, the better he is.
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Remember that was the, I know, but this was the Hillary strategy.
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And then she got onto her van tour where she was like, Oh my gosh, keep the windows close.
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You never know when, when we'll spring from the bushes, but it worked in the Democrat party.
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She got the nomination, you know, it might work for Joe.
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I don't, I'm hopeful that there's nobody in this field who can beat Trump.
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Uh, I just gotta, I gotta continue to hang onto that.
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Otherwise, um, you know, you, you don't hold up much, much hope for the, for the country.
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Like, if any of these people, including Biden, if any of them win, uh, we're going to have
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I don't want to say we don't recover from it because are you and I both Pat, you and
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I have been the most surprised at what this country has endured.
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We, we thought that might be it, but fortunately no president has the power on his own to change
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Now he started that fundamental transformation that he talked about five days before the
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It's up to these guys now to, to try to finish it.
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And I, I think they could, one of the most, one of the most disturbing things that I have
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seen is, you know, that this, uh, campaign to get rid of the electoral college is, is now
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If you're not a subscriber, become one now on iTunes, but while you're there, do us a
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So the latest on Bernie Sanders, uh, democratic presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders falsely
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claimed on Sunday that he has spent his whole life.
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He has spent his whole life fighting against authoritarian regimes, despite his repeated
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During an interview on CNN state of the union, he said, I think it's important for the American
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people to understand my definition of democratic socialism.
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Well, uh, let, let's, uh, do we have that audio by any chance?
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I think Bernie says he's always fought against Soviet union, Venezuela.
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I think it's important for the American people to understand what my definition is of democratic
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It's certainly not how Donald Trump, uh, defines it.
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I've spent my whole life fighting for democracy, fighting against authoritarianism, whether it
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was in the Soviet union, Venezuela, or any place else.
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He has fought against dictators his whole life.
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Bernie Sanders refuses to tell Jorge Ramos to call Maduro to step down.
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Do you consider Juan Guaido the legitimate president of Venezuela?
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No, I think what has to happen right now, I think there are serious questions about the
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There are many people who feel it was a fraudulent election.
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Uh, and I think the United States has got to work with the international community.
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Uh, to make sure that there is a free and fair election, uh, in Venezuela.
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So is Nicolás Maduro a dictator, Senator, for you?
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I think clearly he has been very, very abusive.
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Play the next clip, uh, refusing to call Maduro a dictator.
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Why have you stopped short of calling Maduro of Venezuela a dictator?
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Well, he, I think it's, it's fair to say that the last election was undemocratic.
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Uh, but there are still democratic operations taking place in that country.
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The point is, what I am calling for right now is, uh, internationally supervised free elections.
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And I do find it interesting that Trump is very concerned about what goes on in Venezuela.
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But what about the last election that took place in Saudi Arabia?
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Oh, so he, so he's going after Saudi Arabia, which has been like this since the beginning of time.
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I don't, I don't want to be in bed with Saudi Arabia and I don't excuse anything that goes on in Saudi Arabia,
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but the people had freedom recently in Venezuela and this guy has grabbed power.
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I'm going to play the montage of Geppetto is, is whittling Pinocchios right now.
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Listen to this montage of how he has fought against these totalitarian regimes his whole life.
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But I remember for some reason or other being very excited when, when Fidel Castro made the revolution in Cuba.
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I was a kid and I remember reading that and it was just seemed right and appropriate that poor people were rising up against rather ugly rich people.
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And there was Kennedy and Nixon talking about which particular method they should use about destroying the revolution.
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And I remember the irony as we learned the history later on, Kennedy was saying that Nixon was too soft on communism.
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We pick up a point that Rick was making in Cuba.
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And usually I'm sufficiently unemotional not to be sick, but I actually got off in the room and almost left to puke.
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People are concerned about the state of the world.
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If many of us are concerned that our kids are not going to grow up and live a normal life because there's a nuclear war, you say, who's to blame?
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Why is there a policy in this country which is producing more and more nuclear weapons, which is increasingly antagonistic to the Soviet Union, which is trying to destroy Nicaragua?
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I think it's also fair to point out that when we were in Moscow, for example, I think most of the people here also were extremely impressed by their public transportation system.
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The stations themselves were absolutely beautiful, including many works of art, chandeliers that were beautiful.
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Also, I was impressed by the youth programs that they have, their palaces of culture for the young people, a whole variety of programs for young people.
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How do you find the sincerity of Sandinista leaders?
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I was impressed by Father Descoto because he is a very gentle, very loving man.
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Did you have suggestions for them how they could organize their PR a little bit more effectively?
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I mean, the point that I try to make to many of the people that I spoke to is they're getting killed in the American media.
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Reagan, the media, every time Reagan gives them a photo opportunity, thousands, thank you, Mr. President.
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Thank you very much for telling us another lie.
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You know, the media, of course, is not allowed to ask sharp questions of the president.
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And, you know, my point to Ortega is they are not getting their message of what they are trying to do out to the American people.
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Okay, so there's, let me just, let me just summarize.
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He was very excited that there was somebody that was going to crush, quote, the very ugly rich people in Cuba.
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He had to leave the room to puke when people said, I think Castro is a dictator and what are we going to do about it?
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Any nuclear war would be the fault of the United States.
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But that's only because the Soviet Union had beautiful transportation.
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You know, just beautiful, very effective transportation.
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You know, it's like saying to the Germans, yeah, but the train system they developed was remarkable.
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Yeah, it would all lead into death camps, but it was a remarkable train system.
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Because in his case, he said, because they had chandeliers.
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Well, did you see any of the prisons with the political prisoners?
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He said they also had young people programs, which I think should be, I believe it's pronounced pro-grom, but maybe it's just me.
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Ortega was a good guy, and the American media was in bed with Ronald Reagan.
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For anyone, and I know it's fewer and fewer, for anyone who thinks the American media was in bed with Reagan,
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that's like saying the American media is in bed with Donald Trump.
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So, I want to remind you his definition of democratic socialism.
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Because he says, you know, it's not what Trump says.
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Because I want to show you the friends around Bernie Sanders.
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His campaign director is an absolute Islamist anti-Semite.
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He is a guy who flirts with the most radical of radicals.
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His foreign affairs director is an absolute anti-Semite.
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In fact, those two, the campaign manager and the foreign affairs guy, they were asked,
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by the Obama administration, can you guys get away from us because you're writing anti-Semitic things on your blog posts?
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His speech writer is a democratic socialist that believes in the redistribution of money and land and the takeover of industry.
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His national organizing president was arrested in 2002 for organizing and participating in an anti-IMF and World Bank,
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which I, you know, look, I don't like those two organizations either myself, but also part of Justice Democrats.
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She taught leftists in Spain how to organize and how to get on the streets.
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She also organized the anti-Semitic socialists by the name of Jeremy Corbyn in England,
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which, if you know anything about him, he's a radical socialist.
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The political director for Bernie Sanders is a socialist from Venezuela who says,
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The people in New Jersey are far worse off than Venezuela, which is, I mean, Geppetto, can you make another Pinocchio, please?
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She organized the Working Families Party, which basically is ACORN again, SCIU.
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She's put all of these groups together and she knows how to get the ground to mobilize.
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She is the one that has put a lot of these policies into practice.
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The abortion policy in New York, she was responsible for a lot of that happening.
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but she was behind the scenes and may be one of the organizing principles of Occupy Wall Street.
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And the only reason why we say that is because of past interviews.
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And that's pretty much what she said when she went to the University of Tehran in Iran
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to badmouth America and to hold up Occupy Wall Street.
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That's those are the that's his advisory board and the people actually running his campaign.
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I was on the back of my tractor just the other day thinking about how much I love this country.
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Democratic socialists always try to do the same thing.
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And even when they fail, they'll say it was a failed socialist experiment.
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because if you look to Sweden and that's not what any of these people working with Bernie Sanders
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they want an end in their own words to the free market system.
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Sweden and the Netherlands has a free market system.
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It is capitalist, more capitalist at this point than we are.
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It just happens to have a giant socialist welfare state.
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And they're trying to tell you that there is no difference.
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Democratic socialists here in America want to end the free market system.
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So please, don't tell me Bernie Sanders about how you work so hard against people like the Soviet Union.
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You practically were taking a paycheck from the Soviet Union.
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You tried to prop them up and vilify America every step of the way.
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Now, maybe in some places in America, that will make you qualified for being president.
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But not in any place that I've been recently outside of a city.
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So we're talking about the most believed conspiracy theories in the United States.
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And the number one conspiracy theory is at 47%.
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And I don't think you're ever going to stop this one from people believing that it's it's real.
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OK, and that is that Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone in assassinating JFK.
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Now, the Warren Commission said he absolutely acted alone.
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But that's exactly what they want you to believe.
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I don't I don't lose any sleep on this and I could go either way and I'd be fine.
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But I I would tend to fall on the Oswald acted alone.
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However, there were other people that may have aided in some way or another, even if they weren't connected to Oswald, because he did have so many enemies.
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Kennedy had a lot of enemies and they had a lot of power.
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And so but I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist on JFK.
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Because really, yeah, I think there was, you know, they've said there was nobody else.
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That's what the Warren Commission came out with.
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I think somebody else had something to do with it, whether it be the Russians or the mob again or LBJ.
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Let's just say let's just say it was the Russians and the Cubans because they would have been the same thing at the time.
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And saying, you know, you should do this or you should do that.
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But sending over another shooter or things like that.
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I just don't just all of the the Zapruder film to me is seals it up that there wasn't a second shooter.
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But, you know, I saw somebody say and this is so dangerous with these digital fakes.
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Somebody told me the other day, have you seen the Zapruder film?
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If you look, you will see that the driver actually bends down, picks something up and it's a gun.
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He was one of the first guys for the Bay of Pigs.
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He was the guy sent down by the CIA to represent the United States on Che Guevara, on capturing him and killing him.
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And we're having a conversation in one of my podcasts.
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And in the middle of it, he just comes out with this.
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When we were working the operation in Central America with our team in Costa Rica and Nicaragua running raids against Cuba in 64, 65,
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Bobby Kennedy was what liasoned between us and the CIA for that operation.
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And when the president was assassinated, our team went to see him in Washington.
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And the first two words that he told him said, my brother had two big enemies, the mafia and Fidel Castro.
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And I believe it was the last one who assassinated him.
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So you don't think that it was Lee Harvey Oswald?
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It was Lee Harvey Oswald with another shooter who probably was a Cuban captain who was an expert in shooting,
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and also spoke fluent English, Fabian Escalante, who was in Dallas that day.
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And then it's documented that he left in a private plane for Mexico after the assassination.
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Of course, even I saw one time in the paper, one assistant of President Johnson claim that they did have information from the Bureau of the Cuban participation on the assassination of the president.
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And they had to cover it up for national security reasons.
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If they had to admit that a country like Cuba had participated in the assassination of an American president, they had no choice but to invade.
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I've got the evidence on the Kennedy assassination.
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I looked at him and I was like, I don't know if that helps your credibility or hurts your credibility, but thank you very much for sharing.
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So now here's the second biggest conspiracy theory that we believe in the United States.
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Believes there is a deep state working against the U.S. President Donald Trump and his supporters.
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If you're defining deep state as a star chamber, you're crazy.
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But if you believe that it is the old guard, for instance, the State Department, and if you believe that it's the State Department as part of it, there's evidence that they did this to Truman over Israel.
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I mean, they got into a fight with him over Israel and they almost took him out.
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And I think there is clear evidence on many presidents.
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I mean, George Bush said to me in the Oval Office, don't worry.
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Whoever sits behind that desk is going to be advised by the same people and they're going to give them the same options.
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And they'll realize quickly that that's the only thing they can do.
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Well, if you have that kind of power over any president, you're not going to give that up.
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Of course they're going to do everything they can to destroy that guy.
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But like you said, if you chalk it up to the Illuminati or, you know, New World Order stuff like the Council of Foreign Relations, that kind of stuff, then you're going to be labeled a conspiracy theorist.
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But if it's just the old guard, that's not his conspiracy theory.
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Now you've taken me down the road of the Council of Foreign Relations, which I don't know anything about.
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No, I mean, I don't believe the Council of Foreign.
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I don't know about the Council of Foreign Relations at this time.
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And that is exactly what they were supposed to do.
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They were supposed to take academia and the media and put them together so they could teach the American people how stupid they were and how much they needed these certain policies.
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So that is kind of beyond the, that is kind of in the deep state category.
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So that makes you a conspiracy theorist right there, huh?
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I guess, I guess with the deep state thing, the government hiding aliens, I don't believe, but I do think they know more.
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But I do believe that Sandy Berger took some things out of his underpants that I sure would like to know what it was about right after 9-11.
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But it sure was interesting, wasn't it, that both sides were in on that?
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But again, that's not thinking there's alien bodies being, you know, with autopsies.
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I'm going to put together a poll on these things, but I'm going to word them the way I
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That climate change is real, uh, uh, but climate is always changing.
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I don't believe the, uh, solutions currently proposed are about climate.
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However, uh, in, uh, 9-11 was not an inside job.
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However, there were those in power that didn't want to show relationships, and that's why Sandy
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The government is not hiding aliens in Area 51.
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However, I believe they know more about UFOs than they have let on.
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Uh, not to me, but I think most people would say yes.
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I think if you don't believe the status quo, the, uh, the Warren Commission on, on JFK,
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And if you don't believe the consensus on climate change, you're a conspiracy theorist.
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It's not okay to believe that, yes, it's warmed, but it's not catastrophic, and, and it's
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You have to believe all of those things, you have to be in lockstep with the left, or you're
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I generally agree that these are conspiracy theories.
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However, there's nuance to each of those that make me go, well, I'm not really sure.
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And isn't being skeptical of the establishment line, shouldn't it be the liberals that would
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We started this conversation because of, we're, we're both watching Chernobyl, and it's really
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One, the Russians are going to remake it themselves.
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They're really pissed at the way we made that movie.
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Which I thought it was handled pretty fairly for them.
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I think the guy who I hated at first, the guy from the council, I thought he looked really
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And all of them are just working within the system that they, they didn't create.
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And if they would have done anything about that, they all would have been executed.
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So, I mean, what are you going to do in that system?
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But they're going to remake it and they're going to remake it as the CIA was the one who,
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Um, so we started on that and the other point on Chernobyl, if you watch it, is the state
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And that's the difference between us and other countries like this former Soviet Union.
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You don't, you don't have to believe what the state says.
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You don't, you don't, you're not shut down by the state.
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In fact, you become more skeptical if the state tells you, uh, this is settled and we're not
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How, how did we get here to where it's, it's politically incorrect to, uh, question a government
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that has done all kinds of things in the last hundred years that have not been what we