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Why are we bombing the boats off Venezuela? Is it a drug war? Are we watching the White House burn to the ground? And why is Donald Trump the new Abraham Lincoln? All that and more on today s episode of The Glenn Beck Podcast.
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So today's podcast, we've got a couple of things. First of all, I wanted to take on
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why are we bombing these boats, you know, off of Venezuela? Everybody says it's a drug war. I have a
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different theory and I think it's the new Monroe Doctrine and I'll explain that which leads me also
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to what is happening with gold. Are we being reborn? Are we watching it burn to the ground?
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I'll explain. And again, a different theory you're not going to hear anyplace else. And we also talk a
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little bit about what's happening at the White House. Everybody's, oh, Abraham Lincoln, they're
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Before I start this on gold, I want to
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ask you, what is Donald Trump? Is Donald Trump a guy who likes to cut the spending? No. He believes
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in debt, right? But what he believes in more than debt is growing the bottom line. So you grow your way
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out of things. So keep that in mind as I'm trying to make sense of gold. And what I'm going to share
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with you is just a theory. I think I might be right on this, but I don't know. Okay. Gold is
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rocketing. You know, it's now almost, what is it? 43 or $4,400 an ounce today. And I've always told
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you, you don't want to see a world with $5,000 an ounce gold. That is when $5,000 an ounce happens.
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That means the trust is going away for the financial system and the financial markets.
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The dollar is starting to weaken and the world is sending a signal. We don't trust any of this
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anymore. Now that may be true. That may be true. But let me take you to another place because maybe
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something that is happening that doesn't fit that script because you're dealing with something new.
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You're dealing with Donald Trump. So I think behind all of it, there is a new strategy that is taking
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shape in Washington. Congress, you know, doesn't have the stomach to cut any of the spending.
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And Donald Trump believes the opposite. Grow your way out. Okay. So that's a recipe for deficit that
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is really quite frightening. But there is someone, and I think it's Besson, who is finding a way to
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pull down the deficit without the usual political bloodshed. One of the misunderstood tools in that
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strategy is something that you're going to be amazed that it hasn't happened before. It is
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the revaluation of gold. Right now, the government values its gold reserves. We have 260 million Troy
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ounces. And that's what they say. Officially, we might have none, but we have 260 million Troy ounces,
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but we only value it at $35 an ounce. Why? Because that's the price FDR in the 1930s set gold at and
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said it's worth $35 an ounce. That hasn't changed. So on paper, that means the government, all of our gold
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gold that we have on paper, the whole gold hoard is only worth $9 billion. So, okay, so wait a minute,
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but the market price today is almost $4,500, which would make that $9 billion actually worth $1.1 trillion.
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Now think about that. The United States is sitting on a trillion dollar asset, and we don't even count it.
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Why does this matter? I want you to think of your home. Imagine you're going into a bank,
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and you want to go buy a car, okay? And you have your salary, and you're in debt, and you're just
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barely making it. But your home on paper has only been valued at $5,000, because when your parents
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bought it all those years ago, it was $5,000, you know, and now you're sitting here, and it hasn't changed
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in value. It has in reality, but you're still counting it as the bank and saying, yeah, well, my grandfather
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and my father paid $5,000 for this, and so it's worth $5,000. You know, the bank would know, no, it's not.
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It's worth a million dollars today. What changes if this is called mark-to-market? This is a usual thing.
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You mark the price to what the market value is. Your price of your house goes down. You are poorer
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on paper because the value of your house has gone down, and it's marked-to-market.
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If your price, if the price has gone from $35 an ounce to $4,500 an ounce, then you mark-to-market
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and everything changes. Suddenly, if that's your house, $5,000 to a million dollars, now you can buy
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that new car. You walk into the bank, and you're like, I'm going to buy a $50,000 car, and they're
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like, well, let me see your assets, and you're like, oh, well, you have a house that's been paid off,
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and it's worth a million dollars. Where yesterday, it was worth $5,000. Today, it's worth a million dollars,
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because it's actually worth that if you sold it, and so the bank goes like, oh, you're
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fine. You're fine. Yeah, sure. Here's $50,000. Go buy that car. Suddenly, your profile looks
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different overnight, okay? That is what I believe is coming in America. I believe they're going
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to revalue gold, that without raising taxes, without cutting a single program, it would instantly
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improve the nation's balance sheet. Our debt-to-asset ratio would shift dramatically. Have you noticed
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in the last year, everybody's like, their debt-to-asset ratio is way out of whack, and they're
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now 125%, whatever it is, okay? That would change. The dollar would legitimately appear to be stronger,
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and the deficit, at least on paper, would shrink. Now, add to that, again, what Donald Trump believes,
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and you may not agree with it, but he believes, I can grow the economy. So, you combine that with
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the H-1B visa fees, you do the tariffs expected, you know, to bring in money, and then also the expected
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$8 to $12 trillion in foreign capital investments that are flowing into the United States, if all of
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that is real, suddenly, the picture doesn't look quite so desperate, because it looks like we are
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growing again, and we actually would be growing again. The debt doesn't shrink by cutting, it shrinks
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by growing. It shrinks by growing the economy and expanding the economy beneath it. That's Trump's
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mark. That's always what he's believed in. So, while I've been sitting here going, you don't want $5,000
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of gold, you don't, but it also might be a good thing. Let me give you this. There's more.
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Washington is floating the idea, and Mike Lee got hammered for this, but this is a Besant idea.
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Mike Lee is floating the idea of selling off portions of vast federal portfolio. We have all
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this land. These are not national parks. We have millions of acres of unproductive and unused territory.
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I have known this from central bankers for 20 years, that they actually have said,
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we should sell the national parks. You know, I don't want you selling the national parks. What are you
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talking about? No, we're not selling the national parks. But that's not what they're talking about.
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They're talking about cutting the inefficiency out of every department and taking land that is
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unusable and sellable, that the government is holding and doesn't need to hold, selling that
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land, okay, which would allow us to build more houses, expand, etc., etc., and increase the bottom
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line on the ballot sheet. Suddenly, with all of this, the pressure valves are opened up, okay?
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Also put in here, nobody seems to be panicking about the government shutdown. And what is the
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government shutdown doing? What is Besant hoping he gets an opportunity to do? Cut.
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So now you're expanding with gold, the possibility of selling federal land at some point. You're bringing
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in $12 trillion of investment. You're getting the raw earth minerals from Venezuela and from South
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America and elsewhere in the world. You've solved our military peace problem. We're no longer the
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world's policemen, so we're not having to do all of that stuff, which is a drain on blood and treasure.
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All of a sudden, you're starting to see that America is actually shoring itself up.
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So what looks like chaos right now may actually be a controlled implosion of a broken system.
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Because remember, this is exactly what the left was going to do. The left through the WEF and the
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Great Reset, they wanted to implode the system, but they had a safety net that we were going to fall
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into. And that was a global world order. Donald Trump doesn't believe in the global world order,
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but he does believe we are in trouble. He knows that. He has a different idea. I think we might be
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seeing a re-anchoring of America's finances in hard assets, real productivity. And if Besant and the
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president can pull this off, we may be watching the birth of a building of a new foundation of a new
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financial order, one where we're re-grounding ourself in value that's actually real. It's dangerous
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if confidence breaks, if the terrorists who are already here, thank you Joe Biden,
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manage to disrupt the perception of reality. If we start having real trouble on our streets
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and we go unstable, then the illusion flips. The revaluation becomes a revelation that even gold
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cannot cover the sins of a government that has just not paid attention for this long. And there's
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no pretending that. But if we can hold together this fragile unity in our country long enough
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and they can revalue the system and rejigger the system, keep your eye on gold. It may be the canary
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in the coal mine. It may be this is real trouble. But remember, not every alarm means disaster. It's how
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you react to it. I would have told you four years ago, and I did when we said we're gonna we're gonna
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kick Russia and China off the swift system. That's a really bad idea. Because you have no plan, you have
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no replacement for the swift system. You're now taking the assets of a sovereign country and saying,
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yeah, we can do that. That will drive the price of the dollar down. People will sell our reserve
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currencies. And the only thing they had as backup was a global new financial order that none of us
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wanted. Notice we're not talking about CBDCs. We're talking about gold. This government is talking,
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Donald Trump is talking about rebalancing and growing, not a global world order.
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So it could be that the price of gold is, you know, just a fire that could burn out of control,
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as it would have just a few years ago. And it still may. But it also may be that the rise in gold and
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what's happening with Donald Trump is a backfire is a, you know, when you when you set fire in a forest fire,
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and you burn back into it to put it out. This may be a fire that we are setting that could put all of this
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out. It may, this heat may actually forge something new. Because I think there's real strategy here. When you
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look at what I talked to you about a minute ago, why are we bombing those boats? That's strategy for
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something bigger. That's not, that's not a war on drugs. It's not. That's strategy for something
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bigger. Knowing that he's resetting the entire world. Knowing that he likes the revaluation of
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things. And he likes to grow the asset sheet. Knowing he's not a dummy. Knowing that he wants to keep
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America's sovereignty true. Gold will tell the story, whether it's collapse, or America's rebirth.
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One way or another. We're going to know soon. We're going to know soon. Watch gold.
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Okay. So when we talk about the war on drugs, most people just kind of roll their eyes. Okay.
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We've been talking about the war on drugs forever and it doesn't make any difference at all.
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So another failed campaign, another round of speeches, another generation is caught in the
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crossfire. But what if I told you that the drug war that you're actually watching today
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has almost nothing to do with cocaine or fentanyl? I think the average person would go,
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yep, that sounds true. And I believe it is. It has everything to do with oil and minerals and the
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rebirth of American sovereignty. What you have to understand about Donald Trump is he is reshaping
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everything. Just as the WEF said, we're going to go for the great reset. We're going to reshape the
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world. He's doing that single-handedly. He is taking on everything and reshaping the world
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to have a stronger America and one that is protected, not mired in endless wars and strong
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financially and militarily so we can protect ourself with American sovereignty. So what's taking place
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right now in South America is not a narcotics operation. Again, this is my opinion. You know, I was
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talking about it yesterday and I'm like, it's like the Monroe Doctrine. This may be as important as the
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Monroe Doctrine, which the Monroe Doctrine was in this hemisphere, don't screw with any of our allies.
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You're not going to put, you know, you're not going to put enemy ships and you're not going to play
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around with countries in our hemisphere. This is our hemisphere. America is supreme in this hemisphere.
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You do your own thing. But then we kind of got weak on that and now China is all over.
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Russia was all over the southern part of the western hemisphere. So what he's doing is he's
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putting a new Monroe Doctrine together. That's Donald Trump. Now look at the map. You really have to
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look at it because I could say imagine the map and nobody can imagine them. Venezuela, Guyana,
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Colombia. Okay. Three names you almost never heard anything about on cable news five years ago. And
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suddenly they're the front page priorities for Washington, D.C. and our military. What?
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Well, they're smuggling drugs. Well, yeah, they might be. But they're also doing a lot of other
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things, including, as we told you, terrorist island in Venezuela. They have Hamas and Iran
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in Venezuela. But whoever controls this little triangle controls the western hemisphere and
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controls the western hemisphere's future. It's energy, it's minerals, and it's manufacturing
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independence. And Venezuela is the fulcrum. Okay. It holds the largest crude reserves on earth
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and it's oil that is perfectly suited for America's Gulf Coast refineries. But China and Russia have
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been moving in. They're like vultures sitting there offering loans and sweetheart deals to Venezuela.
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And Venezuela has become more and more communist and more and more hostile to America. And they are
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trying to mortgage that entire system to Beijing's state-run oil giants. So what are we doing? Well,
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we haven't done anything about it. We've just let them go in. Now, all of a sudden, we're doing Navy
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drills in the Caribbean. And we're doing sanctions. We are moving more ships and more naval assets.
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I mean, it is a full-fledged onslaught. We are sending a message. And I don't know we're sending a
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message just to the drug lords. Okay. This is a pressure campaign that kind of looks like the old
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drug war, but is really, I believe, designed to crowd out the Chinese influence. This is about
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keeping Venezuela's energy in the western family, not letting it become another victim of the Belt and
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Road initiative and a pawn of China. Then there's Guyana, which I thought was in the other hemisphere.
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I had no idea it was on this continent that's, you know, just below us, apparently called South
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America. It's tiny. It is quiet and suddenly a gold rush of oil. Now, an American company,
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ExxonMobil, leads the charge there. And Washington isn't just helping fight traffickers. It's defending
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America's offshore platforms. They're building radar networks. They're locking down the entire coast
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because it's not just about barrels. It's about cables. It's about information. It's about pipelines.
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It's about rare earth minerals. All of those things are going to power the next century.
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And then Columbia, we know, because that was the first thing that all of a sudden Donald Trump
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started talking about the, about Columbia and then the Panama Canal. And everybody's like,
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what are we talking about? Where are we back in 1958? No, nobody had talked about, nobody had paid
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attention to it. This guy is so far ahead of the curve. He is so far over the horizon. I don't think
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people really understand what he's doing. Columbia is the hinge between the Caribbean and the Pacific.
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So we were told for decades that the U.S. military presence there was about fighting the cartels.
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Maybe. But I think the truth is that Columbia is the geographic and logistical bridge between
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the hemispheres. Okay. It guards both oceans. It buffers the Panama Canal. It sits atop minerals
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every modern economy needs now. Lithium, rare earth, all of this stuff. You control Columbia
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and you control the Western Hemisphere's arteries. Now that's not drug interdiction.
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That's grand strategy. This hour, I kind of want to make sense of the world for you in two things.
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And it all hinges around a theory that I'm peddling. A theory, and I could be wrong on this,
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that when I look at all of the dots, they don't make sense. You know, this is about that submarine
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with cocaine in it. Really? Is it? We're sending our entire military out to get the submarine?
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I mean, I want drugs to stop. I get it. But really? Doesn't make sense to me. So the dots don't make sense.
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And there's too many up on the board that just don't make sense unless you start to frame it in
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another direction. And I did this last night with not only South America and what we're doing with
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Venezuela and the, quote, drug war, but also gold. And so I want to finish this in a minute. And I want
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to move to gold because I want to tell you, I think there is a grand strategy here that everyone
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is missing. Okay. So why does all of this matter? Trump is the first president since Reagan, I think,
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to understand that America's strength doesn't come from endless foreign wars. It comes from owning the
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supply lines, from building the sovereign trade, the energy, the technology pipelines, all of the stuff
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that runs all the way through our hemisphere, not Beijing. So he's not trying to make America the
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world's policeman anymore. He's not doing that. He's making us the secure citadel. He is forcing
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every region, Europe. Think about what he's done with NATO. What is he doing? We're not going to be
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your policeman anymore. You got to step up to the plate. You got to do it. The Middle East, we're not
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going to be policemen here anymore. All of you Arabs, you do it. You get together. You make peace.
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He's brokering peace and also saying to the rest of the world, you need to step up. And he's doing it
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in Latin America to the police themselves. Every move you see, sanctions, seizures, aid freezes, even visa
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crackdowns. This is all I believe about locking down critical resources before China does. This is
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economic warfare disguised as moral policing. Okay. And the irony is, it may be one of the smartest
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uses of the drug war apparatus we've ever seen. This one actually might work and do something.
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So let me tell you something that nobody else is telling. Let me give you what everybody else is
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missing. This is not about ideology. This is not about drugs. This is about global architecture.
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Trump is tearing down the old corrupt order, the W.E.F. Great Reset corrupt global order,
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and he is building one not on dependency and debt and endless intervention. He's chopping the trees
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down. He's paving a road, and he's laying the asphalt for a new one, a hemisphere that produces its own
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energy, defends its own borders, works together, and reclaims the American right to chart its own
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destiny while encouraging all other countries to do exactly the same. And he's making as many allies
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as he can in any way he can. That's what's really happening, I think, behind the headlines. While
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everybody else is like, should we do this? Before you talk about a drug war, ask yourself, does that
00:29:10.980
make sense? Now, to everybody who is, you know, no kings, yeah, that might make sense, because you're
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not thinking anyway. I invite you to look at a much bigger picture. We know the rest of the world was
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way down this path of a new global world government and a global world order. We also know Donald Trump
00:29:34.460
was never for that. We know that Donald Trump doesn't like wars. So why do we have the military
00:29:41.380
Venezuela, of all places? Because this is not about chasing smugglers through jungles. This is about chasing
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China and Russia out of our own backyard. It is a quiet, strategic, and I think, if I'm right on this,
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a brilliant reset. Because if Trump succeeds, historians are going to look back at this time
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and call it for what it truly is, the second Monroe Doctrine. The moment America stopped apologizing
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for defending its own hemisphere and began rebuilding its own sovereignty.
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Trump believes in a strong America, America first. That doesn't mean we're going to leave
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every other country alone. It just means we have to do the things that we have to do to make sure
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that we are strong enough and strengthen the countries around us as well and the countries that
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we have been protecting all these years give them the impetus and also the ability to come together
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in their own regions and rebuild and protect their own sovereignty, one barrel, one chip, one border
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at a time. Now, I have been warning you about $5,000 gold forever.
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And there are two ways this gold rush could go. Let me give you one way that it could go. And then
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after spending a few days talking to some people who think differently and saying, I don't understand
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what's happening here because everything would tell me that this is a flight to safety, which I believe
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it is. But it is the central banks that are buying up most of this gold. And it's the West. So are they
00:31:42.700
getting away from America or is something else happening? So there's two ways the gold story goes
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really, really badly. Or is it something strategic again from the Trump administration? And the reason
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why I'm on this is because I, I sent an email to the office of Besson and I said, okay, I'm kind of
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freaking out about $5,000 an ounce gold. What's happening? No comment. Just sent a story to me.
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That's all he did. His response from somebody in his office was just a story.
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At first, I didn't understand. What is he trying to tell me here? I want to share with you what I
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think I'm getting on gold. And it actually, like the drug war thing, when you reframe it and you're
00:32:37.420
looking at it from a different perspective, it actually might be really, really good.
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I'm glad you're here.
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Thank you so much for listening. You know, Stu is like freaking out about the White House.
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I'm not freaking out. I just think it's an interesting,
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I thought there would be a more of a process to something like this.
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Nope. Because I do not think at this point, the American people understand what is about to
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happen, which is like the White House is about to double in size. Just by my eyeball, look at it,
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it looks like it's going to maybe be more than two times the size. It's going to be large,
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but it's not the actual White House. It is part of the East Wing.
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No, it's not, because the White House is the original piece from the 1700s.
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Okay, that's the center house. The East Wing and the West Wing was not done until FDR.
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The biggest change to the White House in the last, well, since FDR,
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and it happened in our lifetime, right after 9-11,
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the White House became enormous, but it was all underground.
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They completely changed everything underground, and we didn't have a conversation about that at all.
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I assume all sorts of things are happening underground,
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But this is a, like, it's not a, they keep saying this,
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though, they're going to be changing the West Wing.
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This is like doubling the size of the White House.
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I'm just sort of surprised that it wasn't like a big conversation and a bill.
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So I'm in the White House with him, and I'm up in the private quarters with him,
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and he's showing me some things that he is doing and talking to me about some other things
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that I can't talk about because he doesn't want, I don't know why.
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I didn't want to discuss it, and I don't know why, because it's all really good stuff.
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But anyway, so we're talking about it, and then he brings up the ballroom,
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and we're walking down the stairs from the residence, and we're going into the ballroom,
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and he says, you know, there's the ballroom that Abraham Lincoln had dinner.
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And I said, you know, it's that window over there that Frederick Douglass opened up the window
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and had to crawl in because they wouldn't let him in because he was black.
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And we were talking about all the history of the ballroom and that it's very, very small
00:35:40.600
because it was built in the 1700s, and we keep using that ballroom.
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And he's like, you've got to have a bigger ballroom.
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We have it out in the wet and the cold and the rain and yada, yada, yada.
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And so he said, we come over to a window, and he's like, right there.
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I've got to build a big, beautiful ballroom, and it's going to be better than anybody thinks.
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It's going to be the biggest, most beautiful ballroom in all.
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And I'm like, you know, I'm just trying not to laugh, you know,
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And he said, you know, I was surprised I could do that.
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He said, I went to the, I don't know, Chief Usher or somebody,
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And he said, well, you just have to talk to the architect.
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Now, this is the guy who makes sure the integrity of the White House stays, okay?
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Like, you can't make it into a modern house, okay?
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You're not going to redesign the inside and say,
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But you can't make it into like, you know, you can't wreck the integrity of the White House.
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And he said, you know, I just put these flagpoles in.
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And he's like, all I had to say was, I want to put some flagpoles in.
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And he's like, one in the front, one in the back.
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So he went out to the yard and was like, right here, right there.
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And so he's talking to the White House architect.
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And he's like, well, it's going to be very expensive.
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And he's like, no, I'll raise the money for it.
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So American people are not going to pay for it.
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And the architect said, well, then all you have to do is sign the permits.
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And he said, well, you have to go through the permitting process.
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And he's like, well, the president is the one who controls the process and signs the permit.
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So as short as you'd like it to be, Mr. President, he's like, are you kidding me?
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He's like, I'll have this done by spring of next year.
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What you have to understand is the east wing and the west wing, those are FDR.
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So FDR went into a works project, and he added those wings.
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The east wing is where the first ladies' offices are.
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The east wing is like, you know, it's just the east wing.
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But anyway, and so what he's doing is he's taking some of it down, and he's going to link it to the ballroom.
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And the ballroom is going to be the biggest beautiful ballroom in Washington, D.C.
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So you'll walk, if you're in the White House, you'll walk from the front door through the dining room, or the east dining room.
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You'll go into the east wing, and you'll go to the ballroom.
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I'm looking at the renderings as we speak, and that's exactly it.
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This is the – I can't obviously show it to the people here, but you can see it over here.
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My conversation about whether this is the – you can't.
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I was in the middle of saying – my conversation on this is not whether it looks good or is
00:39:53.420
Like, I actually think his point on the ballroom is so obvious every president should have been
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The fact is that we don't have a big room to have state dinners in, unless you wanted
00:40:06.560
You have to have that, and why not have it at the White House?
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As a citizen, I don't want a dime going for it.
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Hey, all you Frenchies, you're going to eat on the lawn.
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I mean, I would just throw the food out on the lawn.
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But if he wants to pay for it, if he wants to get rich people to pay for it, go for it.
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I don't want any of my tax dollars going to it.
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So my criticism is not how it looks or that we need it.
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I actually, they showed the inside of it, and it seems like the type of facility we should
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And who better to build it than one of the best builders of all time?
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We've had this conversation about how you project American power.
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And I think Trump's approach to particularly, I mean, we've seen it in the Middle East,
00:40:59.060
but I think it's been effective around the world, of these trappings actually are effective
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It's not like just, Donald Trump has a lot of places that are lined in gold.
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The left tries to portray it as, oh, he just wants a big, he just, of course he does.
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He wants this big, no, it means something to him, and he knows how these people think.
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No, no, it, because he, I asked him, I won't tell the whole story.
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I really want to, really desperately, but, you know, he's gilding everything.
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And that's not necessarily my favorite look, you know?
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So, and he came in, Tanya and I were alone in the Oval for a while, and we were talking
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about it, and he comes in, he says, you know, I'm doing all this.
00:41:58.520
These foreign leaders, they all come from palaces, and they don't understand.
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And I know, you know, the White House is different, America's different, but they understand power
00:42:09.740
And he said, they're coming from these old countries and these big buildings and these
00:42:14.660
And he said, it is important for us to project power.
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And that's, and that is, that is why he's doing it.
00:42:26.340
Notice how many prime ministers, they're all flying in all the time from all over the
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You know, I've never seen a president meet with so many foreign dignitaries in the White
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And the media likes to say, well, that's because he's self-important and he's projecting American
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And when I say it's important to him, that's why it's important to him.
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Because he believes it's an important tool in that world.
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He knows the language they speak and not just body language or, you know, spoken language.
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All of the entire, that's what protocol is all about.
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And so my criticism, and it's not even criticism, my observation is not whether it fits or whether
00:43:13.140
we need it or whether it's appropriate or my, I don't think my observation here in the
00:43:20.180
group text that we started this with, was just that like, holy crap, I don't think the, I
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don't think the American people have any idea what's about to happen.
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Like every time I bring this up to Glenn and you have to understand how these, the
00:43:30.620
conversations work, I say, people are going to look at the White House and it's going
00:43:34.620
He's like, oh, President Tyler did more than that in 1914.
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They totally changed the piping back in 1807, you moron.
00:44:00.620
What I think of, and you know, FDR made these changes.
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My wife, it's been the same pretty much from the outside.
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It is not going to look like the White House when this is over.
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It is going to look like the White House plus another White House next to it.
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And it's going to be, I think, massively impressive, but like, I'm surprised there's
00:44:25.160
When's the last time you were in Washington, D.C.?
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So you would not believe the difference in the White House grounds.
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The difference from, you know, when I went with George Bush, you could stand right at
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Everything that has been done to not see the White House except for that iconic front.
00:45:01.500
Everything else is not really, you don't see it like you used to anymore.
00:45:09.640
I mean, the last, I was in town for the inauguration.
00:45:12.520
The last time I actually walked by the White House has been a long time.
00:45:20.700
Now, you'll get pictures of it and everything else.
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But walking by it, today you wouldn't recognize it.
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It's, what has happened with security is so sad.
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I mean, I have the bell from the White House front desk.
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There used to be a little desk right in the front, right as you walk in, there was a desk
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And you'd walk in and you'd hit the bell and you'd say, I want to see the president.
00:45:56.560
And somebody would say, okay, all right, sit over there.
00:46:00.420
You might wait all day, but you got to, you can walk in without an appointment and see
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You're not getting in within two blocks of the White House now.
00:46:13.620
I mean, and for good, again, I wouldn't disagree with that either.
00:46:19.220
But I think of back, Glenn, the classic, I think what everyone thinks of when they think
00:46:23.260
of the White House is of course the scene from Superman 2, where, uh, try to remember
00:46:28.820
where, where they show the White House and it's supposed to be, it's a motion picture,
00:46:33.700
but they were too lazy to actually get video footage of the White House.
00:46:39.060
And you can tell because there's like, uh, you know, things that should be moving that
00:46:44.100
So is that because on Independence Day, they blew it up?
00:46:51.560
But the Independence Day is another good example.
00:46:52.320
Like you have those, that picture of what the White House looks like.
00:46:56.100
Uh, and you know, I guess from certain angles, it's still going to look pretty much the same,
00:47:00.960
From the front, you're not going to notice it because it's kind of wrapped around the
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It's going to look in some ways a lot better, more impressive, but it is a major change that
00:47:12.640
I, when you say, hey, they're redoing the West Wing and putting a little ballroom in
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I'm only saying it because I know how much he hates it.
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