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00:00:30.000 On today's podcast, when Donald Trump says he's got 45 minutes to spare, you make the time to talk to him.

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00:02:23.300 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:31.780 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:33.900 So yesterday, I'm on the phone with the president, and he says, President Trump, not the other one.

00:02:41.440 Who is the other one, by the way? Do we know yet?

00:02:42.900 No, we don't.

00:02:43.540 Well, we talk about that in this interview.

00:02:45.320 We talked about everything in this interview, and this is just spur of the moment.

00:02:53.920 We were talking about an interview for next week, and he's like, I've got time.

00:02:57.560 You want to do one now?

00:02:59.100 And I was like, in lieu of the other one?

00:03:01.380 And he's like, no, that one too.

00:03:03.040 And I'm like, okay.

00:03:04.780 I mean, the guy is just, he never stops.

00:03:06.760 He never stops.

00:03:07.740 Anyway, we talk about the hurricane Elon Musk, the people that are surrounding Kamala Harris, election cheating, Bill Clinton and the illegal immigrants with Lake and Riley, Tim Walsh's shotgun experience, the broken teleprompter of Kamala, the possibility of nuclear war, China's handling of COVID.

00:03:32.140 And that's just the first two segments.

00:03:33.780 So hang on for a wild ride.

00:03:37.580 This is a fascinating interview.

00:03:40.040 It'll run in three segments, this one, and then next hour, two more segments.

00:03:45.280 Here is interview part one with Donald Trump.

00:03:50.620 Mr. President.

00:03:52.440 Yes.

00:03:52.960 Hi, Glenn.

00:03:53.680 How are you?

00:03:54.640 I'm good.

00:03:55.600 I'm good.

00:03:56.600 I hear you just got off the phone with Elon Musk.

00:03:59.360 How did that go?

00:04:00.220 I did.

00:04:00.820 He's great.

00:04:01.460 This guy, he's in a world all by himself.

00:04:05.700 He's a fantastic guy.

00:04:07.500 When I saw that rocket ship come down yesterday, I said, you got to be kidding.

00:04:12.440 The way it landed right where it left, right?

00:04:15.500 No, he's a fantastic guy.

00:04:16.620 We were talking, I think he is one of the great, I mean, Steve Jobs maybe is in his category.

00:04:24.320 I don't think that, I think he's the greatest mind and, and not theoretical, actually doing stuff in my lifetime.

00:04:34.180 He gets it done.

00:04:35.280 There's nobody like him.

00:04:36.340 Yeah.

00:04:36.780 And he's a big supporter.

00:04:38.280 I know.

00:04:38.520 Which really makes me feel good.

00:04:40.260 He knows what's going on.

00:04:41.400 He thinks it's the most important election ever.

00:04:43.840 So, are you, have you been serious about allowing him to go in and look for cuts and everything?

00:04:51.840 Oh, sure.

00:04:52.800 No.

00:04:53.120 You know, he's also a great businessman.

00:04:55.380 I'm trying to figure out how to see a better businessman or essentially scientist.

00:04:59.360 And he is great.

00:05:01.480 He feels that there's tremendous fraud, waste, and abuse.

00:05:05.540 You know, there is.

00:05:06.360 Fraud, waste, and abuse.

00:05:07.620 Yeah.

00:05:08.480 He feels it's there and, you know, he could save, he could save a lot of money and, and, and make lives better.

00:05:15.340 Okay.

00:05:15.780 Yeah.

00:05:16.120 You get more for the buck, but he feels so straight.

00:05:19.540 He doesn't want to be in the cabinet or anything.

00:05:21.000 He just can't do that.

00:05:21.820 He's, he's, he's got so many things going.

00:05:23.900 He wouldn't want to do that, but he would like to do something having to do with the budget.

00:05:29.020 And because it's tremendous waste.

00:05:31.280 Oh, yeah.

00:05:31.860 And, uh, so.

00:05:33.020 And he's good at finding that.

00:05:34.400 I mean, the way he runs his companies, I mean, it's tremendous.

00:05:38.060 He's, uh, maybe the best at finding that.

00:05:40.920 Oh, people love it when they hear that.

00:05:42.800 Without making any dent to, you know, and make people's lives better, actually.

00:05:48.400 Yeah.

00:05:48.700 You know, make them, make them better.

00:05:50.400 I know.

00:05:51.100 Not worse.

00:05:51.720 Make them better.

00:05:52.240 It, it, it really is, is such a statement that he's probably the, the most effective person

00:06:01.680 on the planet of looking over the horizon and then bringing tomorrow into today.

00:06:07.400 Uh, and the, and the left, because he likes you, he is, I mean, they just, they will shut

00:06:16.100 him down.

00:06:17.560 Yep.

00:06:18.200 They will.

00:06:18.680 They'll try, but he's hard to shut down because he's so advanced.

00:06:23.180 He's on a different playing field.

00:06:24.600 He's so advanced.

00:06:25.720 You shut him down.

00:06:26.780 You shut the country down.

00:06:27.780 Essentially.

00:06:28.180 When you look at, or look at Starlink.

00:06:30.560 So he had Starlink and in North Carolina, they called us or any way you could call and

00:06:35.980 some great people in North Carolina are suffering and you know, they have no communications whatsoever.

00:06:41.060 And I got, I called him and he was, I didn't know much about Starlink other than it's supposed

00:06:46.360 to be good.

00:06:47.460 And, uh, I called him and he added to them immediately.

00:06:50.340 Now they delayed him, you know, they delayed him.

00:06:53.460 We were, they put a, they put a hold on what he did.

00:06:57.480 We were on the ground.

00:06:59.000 My, my charity Mercury one was on the ground.

00:07:01.940 We were one of the first people on the ground.

00:07:03.460 We were running at, at the height.

00:07:05.800 I think we were running, uh, 50 helicopters and we had it all, uh, you know, I mean, we

00:07:12.740 had everything.

00:07:13.580 We were there with Elon's guy when they started jerking his chain.

00:07:20.060 They even came in and tried to shut us down and our guy looked and said, you know, you

00:07:25.260 don't have a single helicopter here.

00:07:27.800 We're saving people in the mountains.

00:07:29.900 If you were here maybe a week ago, sure, but we're not shutting down.

00:07:33.900 I mean, it's, it was really tragic what they did.

00:07:37.920 It's one of the worst rescues ever.

00:07:41.220 And I think in a league with Katrina, which was pretty bad.

00:07:44.580 Oh yeah.

00:07:45.060 Some people say it's worse.

00:07:46.860 And they have to stop people, private people like you, you go in with helicopters, you want

00:07:50.800 to save people.

00:07:51.680 It's, and, uh, they're not, they didn't let them do it.

00:07:54.920 I know.

00:07:55.360 I know.

00:07:56.260 You're a little different.

00:07:57.040 You know, you can do things, but they didn't let them do it.

00:07:59.440 No, it's a terrible thing.

00:08:00.640 I think that's, I think that's one of the biggest things.

00:08:03.900 That, uh, you know, when you say we're going to take our country back, one of the biggest

00:08:08.160 things that I miss is the, the ability to just do things that you feel are right, that

00:08:17.180 are legal, but to just take control of your own life.

00:08:21.720 The, the government has grown, grown so far out of control.

00:08:25.340 It's in every aspect of our life.

00:08:28.080 And it is the problem. 0.91

00:08:30.260 And it's a nasty government. 0.94

00:08:31.860 It's a mean government. 0.81

00:08:33.740 Uh, they weaponize government. 1.00

00:08:35.900 They've done things that, and you know, it's interesting because the people aren't very

00:08:39.580 smart, you know, the people on top, but it's a group of people not on top.

00:08:45.200 It's the people that surround them. 0.92

00:08:46.620 They are smart and they're vicious and they're fascists and everything else you can be. 0.99

00:08:50.880 So it's a nasty group of people. 0.94

00:08:53.240 So somebody is, is quite smart.

00:08:56.320 I mean, sometime historians will look back and say, this was a genius.

00:09:02.440 It was the biggest heist in human history.

00:09:05.240 It was horrible, but it was genius.

00:09:08.040 Who's actually the president, Mr. President?

00:09:11.380 Well, I think it's a, it's a committee of people and they might not even know who the

00:09:15.460 committee is.

00:09:16.160 They may not even know themselves.

00:09:17.940 Does that make sense?

00:09:19.260 It's a group of people at, uh, that are in different levels of DC and, uh, they surround

00:09:26.440 a man that was not, uh, the most capable person, by the way, never was, but certainly not anymore.

00:09:34.940 Yeah.

00:09:35.660 She's worse than he is. 0.96

00:09:36.960 She's worse than he is.

00:09:38.700 And the difference is she was a believer.

00:09:40.780 You know, she was a believer for a long time.

00:09:42.740 She was a Marxist for a long time.

00:09:44.840 So she's further left than Bernie.

00:09:46.460 You've heard that many times talk about it, but she's further left than, uh, Pocahontas. 0.97

00:09:51.420 Okay.

00:09:52.140 Pocahontas is probably further left than Bernie.

00:09:54.180 I think, I don't know how you, how you rate him.

00:09:56.740 I'd have to go by your scale.

00:09:58.120 I believe in your scale, maybe more than mine.

00:10:01.640 But, but if you think about it, uh, you know, we have some people and she is considered 0.77

00:10:06.760 the most left in, in the entire Senate and not the smartest and not by any means the

00:10:12.960 smartest, in fact, maybe the opposite.

00:10:14.620 But she is, I mean, when you say she's worse, I mean, we were talking yesterday to Mike Lee

00:10:20.400 about, uh, you know, her centerpiece legislation when she was in the Senate, which I think was

00:10:25.900 called do no harm.

00:10:26.960 And it just dismantles religious freedom, just entirely dismantles it.

00:10:32.480 Right.

00:10:33.420 They are.

00:10:33.840 You know, when, when we, we were in a group together for the audience to know, we were,

00:10:39.100 we spent a lot of time yesterday with the latter day saints and some incredible people and people

00:10:45.040 of religion too, just people of religion. 0.99

00:10:47.400 And she's against religion and it's in her butt, it's in her bones. 0.99

00:10:52.280 Uh, she's against religion. 0.99

00:10:54.040 And I don't know how people can vote for her.

00:10:56.080 Like we were talking about, uh, not so much Utah cause we have such a big lead there, but

00:11:00.720 we were talking about, uh, Arizona and, uh, you know, you take a look at Arizona and, uh,

00:11:07.660 I would certainly say, uh, Nevada and you have a lot of latter day saints, Mormons in those 1.00

00:11:13.720 areas.

00:11:14.020 And if we got, I think we're at 88%, I mean, if we got 1% more or 2% more, uh, this whole

00:11:21.300 country would turn around because if we won those two, we would be in awfully good shape

00:11:25.840 to win the whole thing, as you know.

00:11:27.500 So we spent time together and it was, it was great.

00:11:30.960 And when I mentioned your name, I will say, I mentioned Glenn's name, everyone in the

00:11:35.060 place went crazy.

00:11:36.160 So they like you, they like you a lot.

00:11:38.540 Um, that was the big audience.

00:11:40.260 I, uh, it was amazing.

00:11:41.740 They're electric.

00:11:42.520 I mean, I, you know, you at one point leaned over to me and said, what's your gut say?

00:11:48.260 Uh, and you know, the, you know, the figures better than I do.

00:11:52.460 So my gut says, uh, you're accelerating at exactly the right time.

00:11:58.960 And as I said to you, but for cheating, uh, but the biggest risk, you told me that we've

00:12:06.340 made a lot of good headroom or headway on that.

00:12:09.920 Well, I think just by nature of that, we don't have COVID, they use COVID to cheat and, uh,

00:12:14.980 they did so many things, so many different things, but just the fact that they didn't

00:12:18.740 get legislative approval, I mean, that's, you don't have to go any further than that.

00:12:22.700 They'd actually go for legislative approval, not get it, you know, like, let's say it's

00:12:27.160 a Republican legislature, right?

00:12:29.260 Not get it and then do it anyway.

00:12:31.040 It was just, uh, terrible.

00:12:32.600 They used, they used COVID to cheat.

00:12:35.180 Now that number one, uh, that in itself makes it better now, but, uh, they're a very devious

00:12:41.740 group and you know it better than maybe anybody.

00:12:43.980 And you talk about it more openly.

00:12:45.640 A lot of people, uh, they're afraid to talk about it.

00:12:48.500 You're not afraid to talk about it.

00:12:49.940 No, it's, uh, well, once you've been threatened by George Soros, once you've been threatened

00:12:53.940 by George Soros, it kind of just, everything else is kind of, you know, I see his man Gascon

00:12:59.540 is down by 30 points in a poll, which is so crazy.

00:13:04.260 It's so crazy.

00:13:05.960 Kamala Harris is cut from that exact same cloth.

00:13:10.600 Yeah.

00:13:11.200 Oh, that's a, that's a way of talking about it.

00:13:13.580 You know, uh, I had a, uh, a tremendous rally the night before, night before yesterday,

00:13:20.020 and it was unbelievable.

00:13:22.460 And we, and you heard about 101,000 people.

00:13:25.740 Coachella.

00:13:26.020 And I say, if we had a honest election, if we had God coming down to be our vote counter,

00:13:32.600 wouldn't that be great if we could ask God to do it?

00:13:35.200 That would be the ultimate vote counter, right?

00:13:37.040 Because you'd, you'd have honesty, but if we had God come down, I, I think I'd do great.

00:13:42.660 I think we'd do great in California.

00:13:44.100 I think we'd win it.

00:13:45.360 I think we'd win it.

00:13:46.240 Wow.

00:13:46.520 You know, they send out like 38 million ballots or 36 million ballots.

00:13:51.260 They go all over the place and then they come pouring back.

00:13:55.280 And it's, you know, when you go and vote into a really good solid state where you have

00:14:01.020 a real, and they look at you and they want your ID, even if you're Trump, they say, sir,

00:14:05.640 please, uh, could I see your license?

00:14:08.140 Could I see it?

00:14:09.100 You know, they, there's no, you really can't get away with anything.

00:14:13.380 I know.

00:14:13.740 There's nothing to get away with.

00:14:15.220 They don't have computerized machines.

00:14:17.300 They have, uh, paper ballots and they have voter ID and everything else, right?

00:14:21.180 Have you, have you talked to Elon Musk about this?

00:14:23.880 Because I think with, I mean, you know, this, we can transfer billions of dollars and not

00:14:30.680 a penny is lost.

00:14:32.220 We do it all day long and it's fine.

00:14:36.000 How come we can't get the technology to lock this into place, especially with blockchain?

00:14:43.680 So Elon is the number one person for mechanical devices, including computers.

00:14:50.240 There's nobody.

00:14:50.640 Well, and yet he says the only way to do it really safely is with paper ballots, you know,

00:14:56.000 it's like something, right?

00:14:57.620 He said, I consider myself to be the world's greatest expert on all such things as this

00:15:03.600 type of equipment.

00:15:04.500 Right.

00:15:04.640 I would say I'd put him in number one place.

00:15:06.820 When you look at that rocket, the way it landed, I'd certainly put him in number one place.

00:15:10.400 And, and he's, you know, he's, uh, he's concerned because those, you can make things swing and

00:15:17.580 you can make things do a lot of bad things.

00:15:19.840 He said, but you can't do it with paper ballots when you, you know, they have, believe it or

00:15:23.400 not, they have paper now.

00:15:24.440 That's actually very highly sophisticated.

00:15:26.400 Yeah.

00:15:27.280 I mean, you know, very highly amazing that, you know, when you hear paper, but it's very

00:15:31.340 sophisticated.

00:15:31.900 So, but the voter ID is very important and they don't now in California, as you know, better

00:15:37.180 than I do, because you talk about it a lot, but the California thing is amazing with Gavin

00:15:41.420 Newsom, where you're not even allowed to ask somebody whether or not they have voter ID.

00:15:47.200 If you do, I think it's like a criminal act or something.

00:15:50.760 It shows our country's gone totally crazy.

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00:17:13.880 You and I were talking the other day about the hidden Trump vote.

00:17:26.980 And I want to ask you your thoughts on something.

00:17:31.100 I think there's actually a hidden Trump vote that is going to come from Democrats because

00:17:38.060 they didn't convince people of these policies.

00:17:42.100 They scared them into it.

00:17:44.580 They taught them, shut your mouth and just go along with it.

00:17:49.560 And I think reasonable Democrats are going, this doesn't work.

00:17:54.340 I don't want my kids being talked to by, you know, a teacher in secret.

00:17:59.120 That's the sign of a predator.

00:18:01.700 I am paying more for my groceries.

00:18:04.260 I can't do it anymore.

00:18:05.580 And I think there's a slice of the Democrats that might tell everybody they're for Kamala,

00:18:12.860 but we'll go in and vote for you.

00:18:14.880 What do you think of that?

00:18:16.160 So I think the biggest thing, you know, you see the polls and the polls have the economy,

00:18:21.160 number one, and inflation.

00:18:22.400 I view them as the same thing in a sense.

00:18:24.540 I think the inflation and economy, you can wrap them up into one.

00:18:27.760 I actually think, and I may be wrong, but, you know, not wrong by much.

00:18:32.060 I think the biggest thing that people are going to be looking at and voting on is what's

00:18:36.660 happening at our border where murderers are allowed to come in and where drug dealers

00:18:41.600 are allowed to come in and just destroy our country, literally destroy it.

00:18:44.920 And inflation is a destroyer of a country, too, but it's a different kind of a, it's

00:18:49.160 a different kind of a destroyer.

00:18:50.620 It's not as mean, not as mean as having guys coming in with machine guns.

00:18:54.520 I have to, go ahead.

00:18:56.640 Well, I was going to say, I don't know if you've heard this yet.

00:18:59.120 I want to play some audio.

00:19:00.340 This is Bill Clinton today talking about Lake and Riley.

00:19:05.320 Listen to this.

00:19:06.160 You had a case in Georgia not very long ago, didn't you?

00:19:08.660 They made an ad about a young woman who'd been killed by an immigrant.

00:19:12.560 Yeah, well, if they'd all been properly vetted, that probably wouldn't have happened.

00:19:19.720 But if they all properly vetted and that doesn't happen and America is not having enough babies

00:19:27.280 to keep our populations up.

00:19:29.500 So we need immigrants that have been vetted to do work. 1.00

00:19:34.920 There wouldn't be a problem.

00:19:36.780 I mean, he sounds like he's campaigning for you.

00:19:39.460 Yeah, that's, that's come a long way.

00:19:41.960 You see, that's probably where they're going because they were for open borders, no talk.

00:19:47.940 Anybody comes in, just walk right into our country, which is insane. 1.00

00:19:51.720 And now all of a sudden you're hearing people talking about, well, you know, we need people

00:19:55.680 to come in and come in, but the damage has been done.

00:19:58.680 You have to say that we have 21 million people came in.

00:20:02.060 Hundreds of thousands of those people are from prisons and from gangs and drug lords and human

00:20:10.120 traffickers and murderers.

00:20:12.060 And they're here.

00:20:13.300 So we have a problem before he's a little late in saying it because we have a big problem.

00:20:19.580 We have people in our country that are going to be murdering a lot of people.

00:20:24.380 Lakin Riley is a beautiful young lady. 1.00

00:20:26.900 I know the parents.

00:20:28.180 I know everything about her.

00:20:29.560 What happened to her is just horrible, but you have many, many, many cases like that.

00:20:36.060 Some you don't hear about, but they're, they're Aurora is really bad.

00:20:39.720 When you look at what these Venezuelan street gangs have done, they've formed and they've 1.00

00:20:45.200 taken over buildings, beautiful buildings in, in a very good place.

00:20:51.860 And they're basically in the real estate business, you know, they've taken them over with machine

00:20:56.900 guns instead of with finance.

00:20:58.100 J.D. Vance was talking to Martha Raddatz, by the way, brilliant pick. 0.98

00:21:06.860 And she, he says, Martha, are you listening to yourself?

00:21:10.840 If you think this little problem is, uh, is, is little, there are Venezuelan gangs that are 0.97

00:21:19.600 running apartment buildings in America.

00:21:22.440 It's amazing what these people will try to excuse.

00:21:26.000 Not believable.

00:21:27.260 When you say it, J.D.'s been great, by the way.

00:21:29.300 Oh, I love him.

00:21:30.080 He's been great.

00:21:30.460 And as good as he's been, Waltz, on the other side, I mean, is this man even a little intelligent?

00:21:39.220 I mean, it's just, it's just incredible.

00:21:41.820 I know your, I know your son, I know, I know your son is a hunter.

00:21:46.620 You have to ask him, play that video of him trying to load the shotgun.

00:21:50.520 I swear to you, I mean, I'm, I'm fairly decent with guns.

00:21:54.920 I would not hunt with that guy.

00:21:56.700 He, he looks like he's dangerous with a gun.

00:22:00.680 He's never done that.

00:22:02.480 It's crazy.

00:22:03.240 It was a horrible, I think it was a horrible pick.

00:22:05.260 Now we'll see how it works out on November 5th, because one way or the other, if they,

00:22:10.540 if they won, I guess he wasn't a horrible pick.

00:22:12.840 But when I heard that they picked him, I couldn't believe it.

00:22:15.220 And he's only gotten worse and she's gotten worse.

00:22:17.720 So she's worse than Biden.

00:22:19.380 I really believe that she's worse than Biden.

00:22:22.220 Biden was, is superior and they're fighting like cats and dogs.

00:22:25.480 That's the two of them.

00:22:26.220 So you think that's, you think that's true?

00:22:28.920 Oh yeah.

00:22:29.600 No, well, he, he's angry because he got 14 million votes and he was thrown out.

00:22:34.540 He, this, this was an overthrow of a president.

00:22:37.040 I know.

00:22:37.440 This was an overthrow of an American president.

00:22:40.020 There's never been anything like that before.

00:22:42.300 He won the primaries.

00:22:43.820 I know.

00:22:44.600 And they came to see him and they said, we want you out.

00:22:47.420 I'm amazed he agreed to it actually.

00:22:49.140 And you know, the truth is he looks better than he ever did.

00:22:52.940 He looks better than he did for, for five years.

00:22:56.480 I don't know.

00:22:56.900 Somehow he didn't play well as president, but he does play well.

00:23:01.460 The way he's playing against, like with Ron, Ron DeSantis in Florida has done a good job.

00:23:07.100 Very good on the hurricane, you know, tough job, but he's done a very good job.

00:23:10.120 But the way he went at him and just got creamed and Biden was on Ron's side.

00:23:16.800 I know.

00:23:17.000 That's crazy.

00:23:18.660 It's, I know that's, you know, with that Bill Clinton clip, I'm just wondering, are they

00:23:22.840 just like cutting her loose?

00:23:25.600 I know.

00:23:26.460 I think they're trying to steer a different path now.

00:23:28.700 I think this thing has not worked in and we've had a very good run for three weeks and

00:23:32.900 I think this thing, it's not working.

00:23:34.500 She's changed 15 major policies. 1.00

00:23:37.300 Uh, you probably, you're the all-time pro.

00:23:40.340 I would say if you've seen any, any candidate for high office change to, it would be a lot.

00:23:45.880 Oh yeah.

00:23:46.320 Well, remember, uh, uh, John Kerry, I think changed one or two things and he became, you

00:23:51.740 know, the waffle man.

00:23:53.540 That's right.

00:23:54.160 No, he, he did, but it didn't work.

00:23:56.440 No, but she's changed 15. 1.00

00:23:58.240 I mean, from fracking to crime, to this, to that, to borders, uh, we should see all of a

00:24:04.020 sudden now wants to have a strong border.

00:24:05.800 And she acts like nothing happened.

00:24:07.880 You know, where was she for four years? 1.00

00:24:09.280 Right.

00:24:09.760 But, but, uh, I've never seen anything like it.

00:24:12.540 If you go back two years, just go back into, or just go back into their primaries and listen

00:24:17.920 to what she said and what she voted for.

00:24:20.160 And now every one of those things have been thrown out.

00:24:23.800 So I don't know, you know, I mean, let's see what happens.

00:24:26.600 I can't imagine you could get away with it.

00:24:28.740 Um, but there's another thing that's called competence and, you know, she, they tried to

00:24:34.040 threat to democracy with me and they tried it all.

00:24:37.120 They tried everything.

00:24:38.140 Uh, but let's look at now their competence.

00:24:41.640 The woman is not a competent person. 1.00

00:24:44.340 And I think far less competent than Biden.

00:24:48.600 And I would have thought, I never thought I'd be saying it, but there's something going

00:24:52.620 on.

00:24:53.020 I mean, I watched her with a teleprompter, her teleprompter broke and she kept going.

00:24:57.420 Oh, that was amazing.

00:24:59.940 No, I said, what's going on with her?

00:25:01.660 I know.

00:25:02.740 And you, you've been in television.

00:25:05.220 I've been in television.

00:25:06.340 We know teleprompters.

00:25:07.900 She had no idea what the next sentence was.

00:25:12.200 She was saying 32 as if, Hey, prompter person, I'm at the bottom of the page.

00:25:17.460 It was crazy.

00:25:19.140 If that, and, and you know what?

00:25:21.220 She could even say my teleprompter went off.

00:25:25.140 Yes.

00:25:26.080 And sometimes I do that.

00:25:27.520 And then you go on to make your speech.

00:25:28.900 You know, you can't sit there and you can't walk off the stage, right?

00:25:31.920 But, but, uh, a teleprompter is one of the most unreliable pieces of equipment.

00:25:37.080 I can't tell you sometimes like the crowd we had, we had, that was a big crowd the night

00:25:42.420 before I had 101,000 people and you can lose those.

00:25:45.840 So I, I think your teleprompters go out 5% of the time and two or 3% of the time where

00:25:51.960 they're just gone.

00:25:53.380 I mean, I've had a blow off the stage, you know, if it's windy, they're not very good

00:25:57.100 because they move like a sail.

00:25:58.380 You can't, they're very hard to hold back.

00:26:00.560 They move.

00:26:01.340 If a teleprompter is moving, you can't, I don't use a teleprompter that much anyway, but

00:26:05.240 if a teleprompter is moving, it's a problem.

00:26:07.500 But you've got to be, if you're going to be in politics, you have to be able to, if and

00:26:12.860 when, cause it's when, but if and when the teleprompter goes, you know, there's, you've

00:26:17.340 got to be able to speak.

00:26:18.520 And she was frozen and she's lucky that thing came back because you know, it snapped back.

00:26:24.160 It's called a snapback.

00:26:25.180 Yeah.

00:26:25.820 It snapped back for her.

00:26:27.020 And she then started continuing to read.

00:26:31.320 I wish it wouldn't have.

00:26:33.060 I would have loved to see how she would have ended that. 0.91

00:26:35.760 Well, I think it would have been a bad thing.

00:26:37.480 She was, she was at, she couldn't have done the 32 one more time.

00:26:41.220 I don't know.

00:26:42.560 So she had exhausted the number 32.

00:26:45.980 I can tell you.

00:26:46.700 So what, what, uh, frightens at least me is she's not in control.

00:26:54.980 Biden's not in control.

00:26:56.380 And they're talking about changing our nuclear strategy with Russia.

00:27:02.160 And I don't know who's making those decisions.

00:27:05.460 And I have to tell you, Mr.

00:27:07.560 President, I mean, uh, you know, have you read, uh,

00:27:11.220 a nuclear war by an Annie Jacobson?

00:27:14.740 Yes, I have.

00:27:15.720 Okay.

00:27:16.200 That's terrifying.

00:27:17.400 I don't know how you would make the decision as president of the United States that quickly.

00:27:22.560 Uh, that is the biggest single threat.

00:27:25.580 When these people talk about global warming and they worry about the ocean's going to rise

00:27:30.180 in 300 years by an eighth of an inch.

00:27:33.140 It's, it's like, it just infuriates.

00:27:36.340 Now at the same time, I don't even like talking about nuclear.

00:27:39.880 That's how bad it is.

00:27:40.900 Okay.

00:27:41.160 So, you know, during my administration, you probably never heard the word nuclear.

00:27:45.760 I don't, I purposely, and now you're hearing it every single day.

00:27:49.820 You're hearing it all the time.

00:27:51.120 And you know, who issues it a lot is Putin.

00:27:52.900 Now he's issuing that word.

00:27:54.260 I know.

00:27:54.780 I know.

00:27:55.300 And that will be, uh, there will never have been anything like that.

00:28:00.240 The, the level of power.

00:28:01.520 I'm the one that rebuilt it.

00:28:02.980 I rebuilt all of our military.

00:28:04.760 I rebuilt it at the highest level.

00:28:06.840 I hated in many ways.

00:28:08.320 I hated to have to do the nuclear, but I did because we have no choice.

00:28:11.580 Right.

00:28:12.080 We have other countries.

00:28:13.620 We have five other countries now that are, as they say, nuclear capable.

00:28:18.280 And that's too many.

00:28:19.820 That's actually five too many.

00:28:20.960 The truth is, I think I would have had a deal with Russia and with China to denuclearize 0.70

00:28:28.540 their stock.

00:28:30.080 I really think we would have had that.

00:28:32.080 All three of us agreed on it conceptually.

00:28:34.880 And I think we would have done that.

00:28:36.140 But COVID came along and we had to fight that battle and we fought it well.

00:28:40.600 Never got credit for it really, but we fought it well.

00:28:43.480 I got credit for the economy.

00:28:44.720 I got credit for the military.

00:28:45.980 We knocked out ISIS and got the biggest tax cuts and regulation cuts, all that, but I

00:28:51.020 never got cut, you know, and nobody knew what this was.

00:28:53.780 COVID came in.

00:28:54.520 It was a gift from China.

00:28:55.720 I got it.

00:28:56.900 I got to tell you the way they, the way they say that you didn't do enough when they were

00:29:01.800 the ones bitching. 1.00

00:29:03.120 When you said, I got to close to China.

00:29:05.440 I, we can't have this happening.

00:29:07.220 And they, they called you a bigot and everything.

00:29:10.160 And now they're saying you didn't close it fast enough.

00:29:12.920 I mean, are we, do they really believe the American people are goldfish?

00:29:18.360 I mean, for the same people, Nancy Pelosi, crazy Nancy, she was going crazy when I said

00:29:23.000 if I didn't close it from China then, and you know what, there are 11 people in the room 1.00

00:29:27.540 and I was the only one that said, I want to close and you had to close it.

00:29:31.900 We would have lost probably a couple of million people more.

00:29:37.380 And, and we really, I mean, we would have lost millions of people more had I not done that.

00:29:42.280 That was a great move, but you know, nobody knew what this thing was and everybody got

00:29:46.980 hurt.

00:29:47.280 They, you know, proportionately a lot of, there was a lot of equals.

00:29:50.060 Okay.

00:29:50.400 They all got hurt.

00:29:51.520 China ended up getting hurt very late in the process.

00:29:54.260 You know, it looked like China almost skirted the issue.

00:29:57.620 It has really hurt China.

00:29:59.700 It's, it's, it's, it's hurting it right now because what the, you know, they went through

00:30:02.960 it very, very, now they were different.

00:30:05.400 They locked them in and they welded the doors closed and they forgot or something happened.

00:30:10.480 Yeah.

00:30:10.820 You know, people died of starvation.

00:30:12.340 Can you believe that they welded them into their apartments and then they, uh, either forgot

00:30:18.960 or something happened, but they didn't, uh, unwell them until it was too late.

00:30:24.020 It's unbelievable.

00:30:25.440 It's unbelievable, but that was a terrible thing.

00:30:27.840 Uh, I have been bitching and complaining about the secret service for, well, since Obama,

00:30:35.480 uh, we have, we have not been protecting our presidents, uh, rightly.

00:30:41.580 I mean, my, my people have gotten around the secret service, uh, however, I will tell you

00:30:46.240 this, this weekend, I have never seen anything like the security that you have around you

00:30:53.520 now.

00:30:53.880 It is top shelf.

00:30:56.600 Uh, and they said that you asked the president for, uh, uh, rocket launchers or something to

00:31:04.640 protect your plane in case somebody shoots a rocket at the plane.

00:31:09.420 Is that true?

00:31:10.040 Mm-hmm well, I, I better not get into it, but they have a very strong security around

00:31:15.140 the plane security and, and they really, uh, I mean, they have to, uh, the one thing that

00:31:22.600 we don't have is we haven't had a president saying if some country in Iran where there

00:31:27.860 is actually a threat, uh, that if they do anything to not, it's not me, it's a president

00:31:32.900 and a former president and now in leading in both parties to, to be president, if they

00:31:38.240 do anything that you were going to obliterate the country, because when you say that, that's

00:31:42.460 the end of that, they won't do anything.

00:31:44.340 But, uh, we haven't heard that.

00:31:46.040 And other presidents have issued proc, you know, like proclamations, as you probably

00:31:52.360 have heard.

00:31:53.340 Uh, there were two or three of it issue that way where even rivals rivals were being threatened

00:31:59.200 and, uh, certain presidents were able to get up and say, if you do this, we're going

00:32:04.600 to hit you so hard that you won't have a country left.

00:32:08.200 And when you do that, they tend to say, well, let's take a pass, right?

00:32:11.880 That's the way it works.

00:32:13.120 But, uh, Biden is not, uh, is not, I guess, not willing to do that.

00:32:18.200 And that's pretty, uh, pretty sad.

00:32:20.280 I would do it with him.

00:32:21.480 I would say if, if he were, if it were reversed and I was where he was and it was, you know,

00:32:27.200 him, I would issue such a proclamation.

00:32:30.280 You have to, you have to, you don't have a country.

00:32:34.440 Yeah, you don't, you don't.

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00:32:44.460 So scientific American has just, uh, endorsed a candidate.

00:32:51.180 I want you to listen just to the opening two paragraphs in the November election.

00:32:56.200 The U S faces two futures in one.

00:32:58.640 The new president offers the country, better prospects, relying on science, solid evidence,

00:33:04.820 and a willingness to learn from experience.

00:33:08.620 She pushes policies that boost good jobs nationwide by embracing technology and clean energy.

00:33:14.900 She supports education, public health, and reproductive rights.

00:33:18.780 She treats the climate crisis as the emergency it is and seeks to mitigate its catastrophic storms,

00:33:24.900 fires, and droughts.

00:33:25.880 In the other future, the new president endangers public health and safety and rejects evidence,

00:33:33.480 preferring instead to nonsensical conspiracy fantasies.

00:33:37.940 He ignores the climate crisis in favor of more pollution.

00:33:41.840 He requires that federal officials show him personal loyalty rather than upholding U.S. laws.

00:33:48.460 Dare I say the constitution?

00:33:49.700 He fills positions in federal science and other agencies with unqualified ideologues.

00:33:57.200 He goads people into hate and division, and he inspires extremists at state and local levels

00:34:02.800 to pass laws that disrupt education and make it hard to earn a living.

00:34:08.740 What a choice.

00:34:11.020 Wow.

00:34:11.540 Well, there is another side to this.

00:34:15.980 Spencer Clavin has just written a new book called Light of the Mind, Light of the World,

00:34:22.640 How Science is Actually Leading Us Back to God and Not Away from Him.

00:34:27.960 Follow the Science.

00:34:30.660 Spencer Clavin is with us now.

00:34:32.740 Hi, Spencer.

00:34:33.200 How are you?

00:34:34.500 Hey, Glenn.

00:34:35.220 I'm doing well.

00:34:35.960 Well, thanks, and I want to guarantee you at the outset that unlike Kamala Harris,

00:34:40.100 I actually did not copy-paste any passages into this book.

00:34:45.880 Wow, good for you.

00:34:47.120 That's hard to do.

00:34:48.060 Thank you.

00:34:48.420 That's hard to do as an author.

00:34:50.340 Really, it's a trouble.

00:34:51.460 Yeah.

00:34:51.840 Yeah.

00:34:52.160 So we have perverted science so much, it's become nothing but politics.

00:34:58.200 And if I'm not mistaken, you know, I heard something from somebody the other day, and

00:35:04.500 I did not know this, that the Big Bang Theory was actually rejected by scientists at the beginning

00:35:11.280 because it proved a first cause.

00:35:14.200 It proved there was something before the Big Bang, and science didn't like it because

00:35:20.980 of a God thing.

00:35:22.320 Um, and now it's the, it's, it's sold as the opposite.

00:35:28.260 Yeah, that's absolutely right.

00:35:30.200 This was a major conflict.

00:35:32.440 Einstein was very worried about this when George Lemaitre, the sort of father of what's now

00:35:38.500 known as Big Bang Theory, came to him with this idea of, he called it a day with no yesterday.

00:35:43.880 It was extremely unsettling because many scientists had kind of bought into this narrative that in

00:35:51.420 order to do science, in order to know the truth about reality and accept truth without superstition,

00:36:00.080 they had to be materialists.

00:36:02.140 They had to get rid of any notion of the divine or the transcendent.

00:36:07.860 And I think if you follow that logic down to its conclusion, you actually end up with

00:36:14.080 a purely materialist view of science that does fall prey to things like endorsing Kamala

00:36:20.640 Harris for, for president or all the things we saw during.

00:36:25.460 Doesn't it also lead us to just nihilism?

00:36:30.020 Nothing has meaning.

00:36:31.140 We're just nothing but atoms bouncing around.

00:36:34.640 Yeah, no, there's no question that it does.

00:36:37.380 In this book, In Light of the Mind, Light of the World, I trace the history of how this

00:36:43.980 idea emerged and became so powerful.

00:36:48.160 It was not the idea of the original architects of the scientific revolution.

00:36:53.700 Some of us in school were taught this story about a battle between the repressive church

00:36:59.180 and the brave seekers of truth like Galileo, who had to fight against religion in order to

00:37:05.140 do science.

00:37:06.360 But that's not the true story at all.

00:37:08.500 The story I tell here is a story about faithful men seeking God's truth.

00:37:15.760 Galileo wasn't an atheist.

00:37:17.940 Neither was Isaac Newton.

00:37:19.600 Neither was Johannes Kepler.

00:37:21.120 Basically, all of the major figures who inaugurated the great age of science and modernity believed

00:37:27.940 that they could know the universe because they believed that mankind was made in the image

00:37:32.340 of God.

00:37:32.840 And for that reason, his mind was not just a random product of atoms bouncing around together.

00:37:39.480 It was not just an accident that happened to emerge in one little tiny corner of a dark

00:37:45.200 universe. 0.87

00:37:45.620 And we're not, as Stephen Hawking once claimed we were, we're not chemical scum on a tiny 0.60

00:37:51.060 planet in the middle of nowhere.

00:37:52.940 We're actually imprinted with the key to understanding creation.

00:37:57.900 And that was the roadmap that the architects of science plotted out.

00:38:02.300 Now, gradually, because the methods that they devised were so powerful, there were some

00:38:09.460 people in the wake of the scientific revolution who wanted to claim that knowing the physical

00:38:14.460 world was knowing everything.

00:38:16.160 And that by understanding the mechanics of how material works, you could actually get rid of any need

00:38:22.800 for God or a prime mover or a first cause.

00:38:26.340 And I'm happy to report that in this case, we can actually blame the French, which is one of my 0.97

00:38:31.440 favorite things just generally.

00:38:34.440 It was, yeah, it was the, it was Pierre Simon Laplace, the great French astrophysicist who lived through

00:38:41.240 the French revolution that was supposed to have said to Napoleon, I have no need of God as, as an

00:38:47.000 hypothesis.

00:38:47.500 And we shortly, in short order, not only in France, but also in, in Russia, we saw where that conviction

00:38:54.200 leads.

00:38:55.220 We saw, as you say, the nihilism of believing in only material, which the scientific revolutionaries

00:39:01.760 would never have endorsed, that nihilism leads to the raw imposition of power.

00:39:06.960 Because if it's all just atoms bouncing around and there's no meaning or purpose, no higher

00:39:10.760 morality, then you're just going to try to conform time and space itself to your political

00:39:16.560 program, which is what they did in the French revolution.

00:39:19.620 It's what they did under the Soviet Union.

00:39:22.960 And that's part of the story that I tell in this book too.

00:39:25.020 But the really important thing that we haven't yet fully grappled with or understood is that

00:39:31.280 even if it once looked plausible to say the thinkers of the Enlightenment, that you might

00:39:37.460 be able to get rid of God.

00:39:39.100 And even though we've been stuck with that narrative for so long, we grew up with it in

00:39:43.900 school, science itself no longer supports that idea.

00:39:48.820 So if you really want to follow the science, you actually need to do a hard reset on this

00:39:54.660 presupposition we have that science and faith are inherently against one another.

00:39:59.000 The discoveries of cosmology, as you indicated, Glenn, also the quantum revolution at the

00:40:05.860 turn of the 20th century has totally upended our mechanistic idea of the universe and taught

00:40:12.300 us some things that look a lot like the book of Genesis.

00:40:15.760 They've suggested, for instance, that human consciousness has a unique or at least a highly

00:40:21.680 important role to play in constituting reality.

00:40:25.160 And perhaps even that there's no such thing as a meaningful concept of matter without mind,

00:40:30.840 without some kind of observing principle or, dare I say, some sort of mind to speak the

00:40:37.000 universe into existence, to see it and call it good.

00:40:40.540 So all of this is waiting there for us to take stock of.

00:40:45.060 And if we don't, of course, you know, we'll end up in service to Craven political project.

00:40:51.080 I have to tell you, you know, the Nobel Prize in physics just went to two AI scientists and

00:40:59.760 AI, if we don't decide that life, human life is different and that there is mind with a

00:41:11.760 capital N, M, we're going to be very, very lost because there are going to come a time

00:41:18.240 quickly where people will like, well, no, that's life.

00:41:22.020 I mean, it's got to be life because it talks to me.

00:41:24.780 It relates to me.

00:41:25.740 It answers my questions.

00:41:26.940 It asks me philosophical questions.

00:41:28.620 My best friend.

00:41:30.280 And people will start to defend AI as life.

00:41:34.700 And then we're going down a, we're going down a, a hole that you just do not want to travel

00:41:40.960 in.

00:41:42.000 Oh, I mean, I don't know if you saw that movie, Her with, uh, I think it was Scarlett Johansson,

00:41:46.580 but that, that wasn't supposed to be a prescription.

00:41:49.460 That was supposed to be a warning.

00:41:51.260 I know.

00:41:51.680 And, you know, Alan Turing, the, one of the sort of real forefathers of modern computing,

00:41:58.280 if not the originator of the computer, he wrote a famous paper in 1950 that's now become

00:42:04.920 known as the Turing test.

00:42:07.060 And of course, this is a brilliant mathematician. 0.92

00:42:09.560 So it's not that he was a, it was a dumb guy, but he was in hock to this very idea that 0.96

00:42:14.940 if a computer can fake being human, then it is human. 0.96

00:42:18.940 And why did he think that, which from my view, this is exactly backwards.

00:42:23.020 So why is it that he thought that?

00:42:24.320 Well, he believed that human beings are nothing more than machines for turning inputs into

00:42:31.160 outputs.

00:42:31.600 We are effectively calculating machines ourselves.

00:42:35.100 And the only thing that we can know about ourselves is that we take in stimulus from

00:42:39.640 the outside world and we turn out things that look like thoughts and emotions.

00:42:44.320 So if a computer can do that, well, it's doing what, what we do, but what's the logical next

00:42:49.380 step?

00:42:49.720 Well, if we're machines, if we're computers, we're very primitive first gen computers.

00:42:55.560 We definitely need an update because we were randomly formed, it's supposed by some, you

00:43:02.460 know, haphazard process.

00:43:04.620 It's only equipped to deal with our immediate surroundings.

00:43:07.840 And why should we expect to endure beyond the advent of these computers, which can do so much

00:43:14.860 more calculation than we can.

00:43:17.600 Calculation is the point of life.

00:43:19.300 Then we don't stand a chance.

00:43:21.480 But of course, we all know that calculation isn't the point of life.

00:43:25.600 None of us lives that way.

00:43:26.980 We live knowing that the human experience of things is itself irreducibly important.

00:43:33.200 And that if you take that away, who cares what a machine can do?

00:43:36.380 So these are all things that we are being forced now to grapple with.

00:43:41.760 And you can hear it in the way that these guys talk about their technology.

00:43:45.540 Eliezer Yudkowsky, one of the major sort of thinkers in the AI sphere, published an essay

00:43:52.560 where he said, you know, the AI doesn't love you.

00:43:55.240 It doesn't hate you.

00:43:56.420 You're just made of atoms that it can use for something else.

00:43:59.780 And if that's what we think of ourselves, then of course, that's what we're going to

00:44:03.340 submit to.

00:44:04.320 That's how we're going to treat our machines.

00:44:05.620 Spencer Clavin, all of his books are just tremendous, deep, deep thinker.

00:44:11.760 And this one's really important, Light of the Mind, Light of the World by Spencer Clavin.

00:44:17.320 You can get it wherever you get your books.

00:44:21.980 And I highly, highly recommend it.

00:44:25.160 You can follow Spencer on Twitter, at Spencer Clavin.

00:44:30.780 Or you can see his website, rejoiceevermore.substack.com.

00:44:37.240 Spencer, thank you, as always.

00:44:39.120 Good job.

00:44:39.840 It's a pleasure.

00:44:40.420 Thanks, Glenn.

00:44:40.860 Thank you.

00:44:41.280 Bye-bye.

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